Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR

[druidygal]

Yeah, I've been backing up stuff in the past few weeks, just in case. 

Wow, turning off javascript does make a difference in page loading. Though 
it makes a lot of stuff not show up at all. I couldn't find a Develop menu 
in Safari Preferences, but I had options to enable or disable under the 
Security menu. 





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Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR

[Dan]

At 5:52 PM -0700 7/14/2012, druidygal wrote:
Okay, I ran Disk Utility, selected mac HD and had it Verify, and it 
found no errors. ("appears to be OK"). Cool!


Good.


Of the 160 G on my hard drive, I have 132.76 G of free space.


Good.


I use Safari for browsing, and I cleared caches and cookies a few weeks ago.


Do it again.  Safari tends to get slower and slower as its cache 
grows.  Ditto for its cookie and web site icon databases.


Another thing to try is to enable the Develop menu in Safari (via 
Safari's Preferences).  Therein are items to quickly enable/disable 
various features.  I've found that sites are often linking to the 
likes of facebook -- which causes their pages to take forever to 
load.  If you turn off JavaScript then visit those pages, *bam* they 
load at warp speed!



I do get the spinny beach balls when opening iTunes app.


Yea, that's normal.  iTunes does a lot of farking around when it 
launches.  It checks the integrity of its data on your HD, then it 
talks to Apple quite a bit.  It can take quite a long time for the 
SPOD to clear if your iTunes library is large.


I don't have to refresh every single webpage I go to, no. So maybe 
it's just those aforementioned websites then.


Try to note which sites give the most pain.

I also ditched the Ad Block extension today, since I read in another 
post that that can cause big lags in pages loading.


Yea, but it might just be some of its settings too.

...In the mean time, to get back to the errors from TT and AHT, it 
might be a good idea to update your backups, just in case.


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Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR

[druidygal]

Hi Dan,

Okay, I ran Disk Utility, selected mac HD and had it Verify, and it found 
no errors. ("appears to be OK"). Cool!
Of the 160 G on my hard drive, I have 132.76 G of free space. 
I use Safari for browsing, and I cleared caches and cookies a few weeks 
ago. I do get the spinny beach balls when opening iTunes app. I don't have 
to refresh every single webpage I go to, no. So maybe it's just those 
aforementioned websites then. 
I also ditched the Ad Block extension today, since I read in another post 
that that can cause big lags in pages loading. 
Well, maybe I'm worrying over nothing. 
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something important or that there 
isn't something else I should do. 

Cat




On Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:04:50 AM UTC-4, druidygal wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> It's me again. The gal with the kernel panic a couple of weeks ago. I took 
> out the bad RAM that I had recently put in the machine, and it helped 
> stabilize things (no crashes or kernel panics). I ran Applejack as per 
> Bruce and Dan's instructions. But Tech Tool Deluxe is still showing the 
> same failures. (Format Check, Directory Scan, and Volume Structure). 
>
> It has been slow loading pages, and sometimes it won't load a page, so I 
> have to refresh it once or twice to get it to load (this would be web pages 
> like Amazon or Facebook mostly). I also get the spinny beach ball quite 
> often. I mention this in case it's related to the hardware test issue. 
>
> This evening I ran the Apple Hardware Test, and in the first pass it 
> detected the error, so I ran the extended test, and it came up with the 
> same error. 4SNS/1/4001:VDOR
> So I looked that up online and it sounds like a logic board issue? Does 
> this mean it's on its way out? What else should I do? It sounds like the 
> cost of replacing it would be nearly the price of a new computer. :( Drat! 
>
> Thanks,
> Cat
>
> Late 2006 iMac
> Core 2 Duo
> OS X 10.6.8
>

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Re: Upgrade

[irrational John]

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Dan  wrote:
> I was going to suggest putting the iBook into target disk mode and
> connecting the two machines via Firewire but I'm thinking the iBook only
> has FW400 and the MBP has FW800.

So? Wouldn't all it take to work around that be the annoyance of
obtaining a FW400 to FW800 cable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200730

Another way you might try going is to use a stock FW400 male-to-male
cable and a FW400 to FW800 adapter.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812191015

Note: The newegg links above are NOT recommendations. I only added
them clarify what I was talking about.

The prices on these sorts of things tend to vary and, if cost matters
to you, it's best to look around before buying.

-irrational john

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Re: Upgrade

[Dan]

At 7:38 AM -0400 7/14/2012, Shields E-mail wrote:
Recently purchased new Mac book pro. Want to transfer files from old 
iBook G4 running Mac OSX.  10.4.11, 1.07GHz power PC G4,1.25 GB DDR 
SDRAM  but migration assistant tells me the operating system on the 
iBook needs to be upgraded


Migration Assistant.  sigh.

I was going to suggest putting the iBook into target disk mode and 
connecting the two machines via Firewire but I'm thinking the 
iBook only has FW400 and the MBP has FW800.


If you connect them via ethernet, you're back to MA being useless.

Probably the easiest thing to do is to make a backup of the iBook on 
an external drive then connect it to the MBP and just copy stuff over.


Also I have a Toshiba terabyte external hard drive that every other 
Mac in the house can see but not the new MacBook pro. I have 
reformatted it by the MacBook pro but still unable to get it to work.


This is a USB drive?
What errors are you getting?
Any errors being thrown into the system log?
Does Disk Utility and/or System Profiler see it at all?
You've set Finder to view drives and such on the desktop?

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Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR

[Dan]

At 9:04 PM -0700 7/11/2012, druidygal wrote:
It's me again. The gal with the kernel panic a couple of weeks ago. 
I took out the bad RAM that I had recently put in the machine, and 
it helped stabilize things (no crashes or kernel panics). I ran 
Applejack as per Bruce and Dan's instructions. But Tech Tool Deluxe 
is still showing the same failures. (Format Check, Directory Scan, 
and Volume Structure).


Quit all apps.  Run Disk Utility.  Do a Verify Disk pass on each disk 
volume.  Does it report any errors?


It has been slow loading pages, and sometimes it won't load a page, 
so I have to refresh it once or twice to get it to load (this would 
be web pages like Amazon or Facebook mostly). I also get the spinny 
beach ball quite often.


How much free space is available on your HD?

Are you having any difficulties with the machine with other apps - 
things NOT involving the 'net?


What browser are you using?  Have you tried clearing its caches and 
cookies?  When it has problems loading a page, is it just pages from 
that one site or do all sites fail?  ...Quite often, having to 
refresh pages to get all the elements to load, is an indication of a 
network or site problem.


This evening I ran the Apple Hardware Test, and in the first pass it 
detected the error, so I ran the extended test, and it came up with 
the same error. 4SNS/1/4001:VDOR


Could just be a power manager issue.  But at this point, you're 
talking about three errors; can't tell if one is caused by the other 
or 


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Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?

[Dan]

At 1:09 PM -0400 7/14/2012, Dan wrote:
levels out to around 700 Mbps for a while, then spikes back to 1.5 
to 2 Mbps as it rebuffers.


700 Kbps.  :)

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Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?

[Dan]

At 8:57 AM -0700 7/14/2012, Al Poulin wrote:

 > wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition

 versions of the videos.  At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be
 glitchy.


Thanks, I'm passing this on to her. So the 1 MB RAM is rather minimum
for some downstreaming.


Do not confuse 1 Mb -- 1 megabit per second -- DSL speed, with the 1 
GB RAM in her iMac.


1 GB RAM is *certainly* enough to play video.  Few apps require more 
than 40 to 80 MB RAM to play a video, including buffers.  Safari 
bumps its memory usage by only about 30 MB when playing a video on 
YouTube.  The issue of 1 GB RAM being a minimum is wrt to the system 
as a whole - all the processes Leopard runs, plus Dashboard, 
Spotlight, and the user apps that all tend to be piggy - it adds up. 
But again, a GIGABYTE of memory is a LOT -- that amount of memory 
DOES NOT restrict video playing IN ANY WAY.


The slow DSL speed can be quite restrictive, however.  For example, 
when I play a YouTube video in Safari, it spikes to up around 3 Mbps 
as the buffers initially load (I have 15 Mbps service), then levels 
out to around 700 Mbps for a while, then spikes back to 1.5 to 2 Mbps 
as it rebuffers.


If you view the network throughput using Activity Monitor, or even 
iStat Menus, while playing such videos, she should get a better idea 
if that's the bottleneck.


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Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?

[Al Poulin]

On Jul 14, 11:07 am, Dan  wrote:
> At 2:33 PM -0700 7/12/2012, Al Poulin wrote:

>
> and what browser is involved?  Does the problem occur with other browsers?

This is using Safari, updated just a few days ago. I've suggested
trying Chrome, which made my teenage granddaughter very happy about a
year ago.
>
> Has she done the basics -- cleared caches, cookies, etc?

I've mentioned caches, History, and Activity Monitor, but will have
cookies on the list when I copy this thread to her.

> Does the machine have any other speed issues not involving the web?

Apparently nothing to make her unhappy.

> wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition
> versions of the videos.  At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be
> glitchy.

Thanks, I'm passing this on to her. So the 1 MB RAM is rather minimum
for some downstreaming.

And thanks, Judith for your comments about the add-ons. I doubt they
apply, but I'll confirm.

Krys - She is using Internet, and the Verizon DSL for this low
bandwidth version does not seem to have a cap.

Al Poulin

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Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?

[Dan]

At 2:33 PM -0700 7/12/2012, Al Poulin wrote:

A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to
websites and has "YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the
time." Apparently, there are no other performance problems.

iMac "Core 2 Duo" 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM
OS X 10.5.8 Leopard


and what browser is involved?  Does the problem occur with other browsers?

Has she done the basics -- cleared caches, cookies, etc?  Does the 
machine have any other speed issues not involving the web?



Internet access is via Verizon DSL. Speed test shows:
Last Result:
Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate)


and later:

Yeah, kind of slow, I know. The Verizon DSL website shows their basic
package at "Verizon High Speed Internet .5 to 1 Mbps."


If that's the service to which they've subscribed, then the speed test is good.

wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition 
versions of the videos.  At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be 
glitchy.



Maybe need to boost both the Internet bandwidth and the RAM??


Perhaps.  But eliminate cache issues and such first.

Run Activity Monitor, to monitor the memory usage, etc.  While 1 GB 
is pretty much a minimum for Leopard, it should be enough to do 
surfing and such.


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Re: Upgrade

[Fabian Fang]

On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:38 AM, Shields E-mail wrote:

Recently purchased new Mac book pro. Want to transfer files from old  
iBook G4 running Mac OSX.  10.4.11, 1.07GHz power PC G4,1.25 GB DDR  
SDRAM  but migration assistant tells me the operating system on the  
iBook needs to be upgraded however it is the latest system available  
for this hardware, I believe.


There were altogether four different models of iBook G4 with 1.0-GHz  
processors:


All four could run Mac OS up to 10.5.8.

Also I have a Toshiba terabyte external hard drive that every other  
Mac in the house can see but not the new MacBook pro. I have  
reformatted it by the MacBook pro but still unable to get it to work.


Since you managed to reformat the Toshiba hard drive "by the MacBook  
Pro," it must have been "seen" by its Disk Utility.  Do it again, but  
this time reformat to "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)"


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Upgrade

[Shields E-mail]

Recently purchased new Mac book pro. Want to transfer files from old iBook G4 
running Mac OSX.  10.4.11, 1.07GHz power PC G4,1.25 GB DDR SDRAM  but migration 
assistant tells me the operating system on the iBook needs to be upgraded 
however it is the latest system available for this hardware, I believe.

Also I have a Toshiba terabyte external hard drive that every other Mac in the 
house can see but not the new MacBook pro. I have reformatted it by the MacBook 
pro but still unable to get it to work.

Any ideas would be appreciated. Really love the help you all give to each other 
and although I am a technotard and don't understand half of it I really enjoy 
this board and hope to eventually learn a little more.

-M-

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Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?

[Krys Weaver]

yes the speed will show but if you/other went over the cap they will
THROTTLE the feed and it mite be bad server ether on office or your sideor
wire i know when it rains my dsl is all over the place but i'm a business
line and i have 6.0mps from ATT and it's full 6.0 no caps just full
speed24/7 i asked the tec and he told me try what i just told you if not
call repair.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:

> On 7/12/12 4:33 PM, Al Poulin wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Do we blame low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
>>
>> A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to
>> websites and has "YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the
>> time." Apparently, there are no other performance problems.
>>
>> This is an iMac "Core 2 Duo" 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM
>> running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard.
>>
> snip===
>
> 1  Gig ram for OS X.5 ?
>
> How long has she had X.5 on it?
>
>
>Apple Software Updates have been applied.
>> Internet access is via Verizon DSL. Speed test shows:
>> Last Result:
>> Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
>> Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Al Poulin
>>
>>
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Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?

[Krys Weaver]

did you or someone go over your cap on dsl just a thought and is it
wireless if so check the speed in the router/setup

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Al Poulin  wrote:

> Hello:
>
> Do we blame low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
>
> A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to
> websites and has "YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the
> time." Apparently, there are no other performance problems.
>
> This is an iMac "Core 2 Duo" 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM
> running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard. Apple Software Updates have been applied.
> Internet access is via Verizon DSL. Speed test shows:
> Last Result:
> Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
> Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
>
> Thanks,
> Al Poulin
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