Re: emac with kernel panic? more help still needed
-Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Jan 12, 2010 10:30 am Subject: Re: emac with kernel panic? more help still needed On Jan 11, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Try an erase-and-install. -- Try an Archive Install...why lose all the data (or go through the hassle of restoring it) if you don't have to --Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs I have erased, reformatted the hard drive on several occasions as well as having cloned it from the drive I cloned it to originally. It will show up as a drive when I've booted from an external firewire, and there are times when I press the option key to select a hard drive and the internal drive shows up, but not the last time. When I set it to be the start up disk, I got a sound that said I couldn't do it. Is it possible the hard drive is bad? I'm going to try and replace the hard drive at this point. Garth -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac with kernel panic?
This 1.25 eMac has been through Apple's refurbish program so I imagine all those issues were taken care of. It does boot from an external drive which is how I'm doing this now. At one time, the original internal HD has worked, and then it quits. Could it be the hard drive going bad? Yet it checks out okay. TIA -Original Message- From: Matt Tracey Evans mattev...@fsmail.net To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2010 2:22 pm Subject: RE: emac with kernel panic? The 1.25 eMacs were known to have bad capacitors on the Logic board. I had the self same problem with mine and ended cannibalising it for parts and spares for my other eMacs.Short of replacing the logic board or the capacitors (you really dont want to try either. I have and its a nightmare), the machine sounds to me like a dead one.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.Matt Message Received: Jan 09 2010, 06:16 PM From: bhealthyag...@aol.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Cc: Subject: emac with kernel panic? I have a 1.25 eMac was booting up nice with OSX 5.8 with 256 MGs of Ram, 80GB HD. I had a 512 stick in it to be able to go from 10.4 to 10.5. Now I get a screen that says at the top You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power Button for several seconds or press the restart button. Which I've done several times. I pulled the HD out and hooked it up to another machine, to check to see if there were issues with the HD that needed to be repaired. That didn't do it either. I've had this problem before, and can't remember what I did, or didn't do, to fix it. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. TIA Garth [ (no name for attachment) (0.5 Kb) ] - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: IOMEGA HD 320GB
-Original Message- From: Earle Jones earle.jo...@comcast.net To: macosx-support macosx-supp...@yahoogroups.com; imaclist@googlegroups.com Cc: A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user. x...@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2010 1:27 pm Subject: IOMEGA HD 320GB Greetings! Intel iMac -- X 10.6.2 -- HP printers, etc.I have several external HDs (all are USB connected) including an IOMEGA 320 GB.The 320GB power unit died (loose plug-in prongs) and IOMEGA sent me a new power unit. When I re-connect the HD, it is not recognized on the desktop.'Disk Utility' can't find it; neither can 'Disk Warrior', TechTool Pro', 'Drive Genius' or anything else I can think of. Restart doesn't help.The disk drive is warm and rotating, the blue lamp is on, and the connections are OK (I switched several HDs around to different USB slots.)What should I do next? Is there a terminal script that will scan for HDs?Any suggestions appreciated.Thanks and cheers!earle*Earle Jones 501 Portola Road #8008Portola Valley CA 94028Home: 650-424-4362Cell: 650-269-0035earle.jo...@comcast.net Do you have another Mac of any sort that you could plug it into? If you have an external drive connector, you could take the drive out of the case and connect it that way. If the drive works by being connected via a USB HD cable adapter, then it could mean there is something wrong with the box your drive is located in. That would tell you if the problem lies in the case, or the drive itself. Garth All Macs are PC's but not all PC's are Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
emac with kernel panic?
I have a 1.25 eMac was booting up nice with OSX 5.8 with 256 MGs of Ram, 80GB HD. I had a 512 stick in it to be able to go from 10.4 to 10.5. Now I get a screen that says at the top You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power Button for several seconds or press the restart button. Which I've done several times. I pulled the HD out and hooked it up to another machine, to check to see if there were issues with the HD that needed to be repaired. That didn't do it either. I've had this problem before, and can't remember what I did, or didn't do, to fix it. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. TIA Garth -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
eMac hardware problem.
I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power strip and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage. That makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not yet. My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I needed to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now, when I turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it completely goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a 1.2 GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it to the local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's something simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard assembly into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem? Garth MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo eMac 1.4 eMac 1.2 Beige G3 G4 Yikes Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. I've taken apart plenty of computers, both Macs and Windows so I'm not afraid to turn a screw driver. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: eMac hardware problem.
I was able to get the 1.2 GHz machine to run without the case on. I will try that and see if that makes a difference. If it does, I will post it, if not, I will also post that as well. I'm just hoping that I can get the wire to the power button to stay since the end of the connector on the back of the power button is missing on the one end. Thanks Christian for your help. Garth -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:27 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power strip and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage. That makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not yet. My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I needed to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now, when I turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it completely goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a 1.2 GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it to the local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's something simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard assembly into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem? Garth MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo eMac 1.4 eMac 1.2 Beige G3 G4 Yikes Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. I've taken apart plenty of computers, both Macs and Windows so I'm not afraid to turn a screw driver. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: eMac hardware problem.
You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power strip and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage. That makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not yet. My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I needed to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now, when I turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it completely goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a 1.2 GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it to the local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's something simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard assembly into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem? Garth MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo eMac 1.4 eMac 1.2 Beige G3 G4 Yikes Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. I've taken apart plenty of computers, both Macs and Windows so I'm not afraid to turn a screw driver. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received
Re: eMac hardware problem.
I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF? -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load)) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power strip and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage. That makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not yet. My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I needed to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now, when I turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it completely goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a 1.2 GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it to the local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's something simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard assembly into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem? Garth MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo eMac 1.4 eMac 1.2 Beige G3 G4 Yikes Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. I've taken apart plenty of computers, both Macs and Windows so I'm not afraid to
Re: eMac hardware problem.
The power button doesn't seem to be the problem as I have the case from the 1.4 on it with a working power button. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:09 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. My guess is that it would probably work... But in that case, I would just try plugging the power button in from the 1.2 and see if you get the same problem. (And/or whatever the button is attached to? Not sure.) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power strip and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage. That makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not yet. My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I needed to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now, when I turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it completely goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a 1.2 GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it to the local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's something simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard assembly into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem? Garth MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo
Re: eMac hardware problem.
That's okay to us PC terms because all computers are PC's, as it's the operating system that makes a Mac a Mac and a Windows machine a Window machine, Linux, etc. The HSF is actually a heat sink attached to a heat pipe that has fins attached to it on both the 1.2 and 1.4 machine. From what I understand, the 1.4 is a speed bump of the 1.2 machine and depending on the options, could have bigger hard drives and a super drive instead of a combo drive. Until I'd taken this eMac apart, I'd never done one, just iMacs, iBooks, and other towers. iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:15 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. HSF: Heatsink\Fan (I'm using PC terms, sorry) but it's the massive chunk of metal that sits atop the processor, keeping it cool. I'm not sure if the 1.2 is identical, and could handle the same heat as the 1.4 might throw off, but you should swap, just to be safe. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF? -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load)) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then
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Have any idea which capacitors and where? Can they be replaced by someone that knows how to use a soldering iron? I have a friend that is an electronics person. He would prefer to have a schematic for the whole thing. Does anyone know where I can find one of those? Thanks again Elliot, and all the others that have offered help. Garth -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:17 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I know that the G4 eMac motherboards have trouble with bad capacitors, maybe that's your problem. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:14 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: The power button doesn't seem to be the problem as I have the case from the 1.4 on it with a working power button. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:09 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. My guess is that it would probably work... But in that case, I would just try plugging the power button in from the 1.2 and see if you get the same problem. (And/or whatever the button is attached to? Not sure.) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive. I learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting out the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power strip and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage. That makes it possible to not have to replace the power button,
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If it turns out that you have parts that I need to fix mine, think you might could part with them for the cost of shipping? The 1.2 I got had a super drive and an Airport Extreme card in it, which I put into the 1.4. I have a lot of respect for the design people of Apple as they are much more creative in the way their computers are put together. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:24 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I start my delve into the innerds of eMacs in 2 weeks, because my school is getting rid of all the broken 1.4ghz ones, so i'm getting them, to fix into atleast one working one. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: That's okay to us PC terms because all computers are PC's, as it's the operating system that makes a Mac a Mac and a Windows machine a Window machine, Linux, etc. The HSF is actually a heat sink attached to a heat pipe that has fins attached to it on both the 1.2 and 1.4 machine. From what I understand, the 1.4 is a speed bump of the 1.2 machine and depending on the options, could have bigger hard drives and a super drive instead of a combo drive. Until I'd taken this eMac apart, I'd never done one, just iMacs, iBooks, and other towers. iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:15 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. HSF: Heatsink\Fan (I'm using PC terms, sorry) but it's the massive chunk of metal that sits atop the processor, keeping it cool. I'm not sure if the 1.2 is identical, and could handle the same heat as the 1.4 might throw off, but you should swap, just to be safe. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF? -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load)) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware
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eMacs are great investment for the money. They will run OS X.5.8 and you can put in a generic super drive from the regular PC world as well as an IDE hard drive and PC memory as well. Yes, they are really cool looking too. The nice thing is they have 3 USB 2.0 ports as well as 2 Firewire ports and a mini VGA which you need an Apple adapter to be able to use it. Apple has locked it into video mirroring mode because they want to be able to sell the higher end Macs. Someone has a way to get around it and make it possible to do spanning of your desktop instead of just video mirroring. I've got the adapter. You can get one from an Apple store, the adapter, for about $19.95 plus tax of course. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:27 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I've never encountered an eMac... We were thinking of getting my little brother one a while ago, since they're a really good deal for the Ghz. I think they look pretty nice, too, almost like something out of a sci-fi movie. Anyways, Garth, let us know how your various experiments go. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I start my delve into the innerds of eMacs in 2 weeks, because my school is getting rid of all the broken 1.4ghz ones, so i'm getting them, to fix into atleast one working one. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: That's okay to us PC terms because all computers are PC's, as it's the operating system that makes a Mac a Mac and a Windows machine a Window machine, Linux, etc. The HSF is actually a heat sink attached to a heat pipe that has fins attached to it on both the 1.2 and 1.4 machine. From what I understand, the 1.4 is a speed bump of the 1.2 machine and depending on the options, could have bigger hard drives and a super drive instead of a combo drive. Until I'd taken this eMac apart, I'd never done one, just iMacs, iBooks, and other towers. iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:15 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. HSF: Heatsink\Fan (I'm using PC terms, sorry) but it's the massive chunk of metal that sits atop the processor, keeping it cool. I'm not sure if the 1.2 is identical, and could handle the same heat as the 1.4 might throw off, but you should swap, just to be safe. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF? -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load)) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power
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Where are the capacitors located? In the power supply itself? -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:29 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I know there've been quite a few discussions on that on the LEM lists, but I don't have any first-had experience, so I'm not sure. I think people had just replaced all of the capacitors, since they apparently weren't very high quality to begin with. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:26 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: Have any idea which capacitors and where? Can they be replaced by someone that knows how to use a soldering iron? I have a friend that is an electronics person. He would prefer to have a schematic for the whole thing. Does anyone know where I can find one of those? Thanks again Elliot, and all the others that have offered help. Garth -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:17 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I know that the G4 eMac motherboards have trouble with bad capacitors, maybe that's your problem. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:14 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: The power button doesn't seem to be the problem as I have the case from the 1.4 on it with a working power button. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:09 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. My guess is that it would probably work... But in that case, I would just try plugging the power button in from the 1.2 and see if you get the same problem. (And/or whatever the button is attached to? Not sure.) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor... although I doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac, but I have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out the twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to know that they are nude and won't run until you clothe them (put their shell back on)? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going to the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure it worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten it out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is turned on. Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that matter. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's pressed that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get the button/case part with the button in it. -Elliott Price
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Sounds like you've taken one apart? Fortunately there is a web site called www.Ifixit.com which I used to be able to do that for a customer. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:25 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. No kidding. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Software is available to unlock that ability in the eMac as well. So if you can get a good deal on an eMac, it doesn't matter which version of OS is on it, you can put up to 10.5.8 on it. Thanks again Elliot. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:39 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I was able to modify my iBook to support dual displays. There's just a script that you download and run, and it tells the system to support dual displays. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:35 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: eMacs are great investment for the money. They will run OS X.5.8 and you can put in a generic super drive from the regular PC world as well as an IDE hard drive and PC memory as well. Yes, they are really cool looking too. The nice thing is they have 3 USB 2.0 ports as well as 2 Firewire ports and a mini VGA which you need an Apple adapter to be able to use it. Apple has locked it into video mirroring mode because they want to be able to sell the higher end Macs. Someone has a way to get around it and make it possible to do spanning of your desktop instead of just video mirroring. I've got the adapter. You can get one from an Apple store, the adapter, for about $19.95 plus tax of course. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:27 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I've never encountered an eMac... We were thinking of getting my little brother one a while ago, since they're a really good deal for the Ghz. I think they look pretty nice, too, almost like something out of a sci-fi movie. Anyways, Garth, let us know how your various experiments go. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: I start my delve into the innerds of eMacs in 2 weeks, because my school is getting rid of all the broken 1.4ghz ones, so i'm getting them, to fix into atleast one working one. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: That's okay to us PC terms because all computers are PC's, as it's the operating system that makes a Mac a Mac and a Windows machine a Window machine, Linux, etc. The HSF is actually a heat sink attached to a heat pipe that has fins attached to it on both the 1.2 and 1.4 machine. From what I understand, the 1.4 is a speed bump of the 1.2 machine and depending on the options, could have bigger hard drives and a super drive instead of a combo drive. Until I'd taken this eMac apart, I'd never done one, just iMacs, iBooks, and other towers. iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:15 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. HSF: Heatsink\Fan (I'm using PC terms, sorry) but it's the massive chunk of metal that sits atop the processor, keeping it cool. I'm not sure if the 1.2 is identical, and could handle the same heat as the 1.4 might throw off, but you should swap, just to be safe. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF? -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load)) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is on or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire, as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch is a momentary switch. So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was when I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4 and put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the monitor/computer. Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or button. (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though, and beep a lot. You might look around for a button
Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n
They just don't have eMacs on it unfortunately. Would the capacitors work and then shut off the eMac? -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:52 pm Subject: Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n I use iFixit all the time. It has the best take apart guides I've found on the internet. And yes, I've taken apart quite a few G4 iBooks, and some of them more then once. :) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:40 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: Sounds like you've taken one apart? Fortunately there is a web site called www.Ifixit.com which I used to be able to do that for a customer. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:25 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. No kidding. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re:: eMac hardware problem. n
I have a friend that is going to help me with it tomorrow. I just have to drive from Lancaster PA to Wheaton MD to pick him up and then drive him home. He's 58 with no driver's license, no car, no bank account and manages to get his bills paid. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 6:02 pm Subject: Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n that does seem like a problem that it could throw at you, the capicitors could be faulty, and the eMac could be shutting off because of either a short, or a power drop, for safty's sake. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: They just don't have eMacs on it unfortunately. Would the capacitors work and then shut off the eMac? -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:52 pm Subject: Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n I use iFixit all the time. It has the best take apart guides I've found on the internet. And yes, I've taken apart quite a few G4 iBooks, and some of them more then once. :) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:40 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: Sounds like you've taken one apart? Fortunately there is a web site called www.Ifixit.com which I used to be able to do that for a customer. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:25 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. No kidding. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- -Sent from a Windows PC -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n
Or, as you are taking something out, put the screw into the part, as long as the hole for that part isn't on the laptop itself. If that's the case, then you put the screw into the hole in the laptop. Takes a little longer but it works, as that is what I learned to do when working on motorcycles that if you don't put all the screws into an engine, things could be more than just not working. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 6:05 pm Subject: Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n Theoritically, yes, but when you have to make up the instructions for most Windows laptops to take them apart as you go, you sometimes forget that a certain screw goes with a certain part, and... vola! you have leftover screws. I do have a system though, an old fishing tackle box serves as my tool box, the top shelf holds the screws, the bottom shelf holds the tools, and the inside holds any parts that come off... On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:02 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: What I've learned to do is put the screws into butter tubs as I take a section apart, and then stack another butter tub in that one with the screws from the next section. That way I don't get the screws mixed up and I know what order they go in. I work from the top butter tub putting those screws in first and then working my way to the bottom one. That way you shouldn't have any left over screws. At least theoretically anyway. -Original Message- From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com To: imaclist imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:56 pm Subject: Re: Not about Re: eMac hardware problem. n Do you have the problem that plagues me with repairing laptops? When you take it apart, all is fine, each screw seems willing to be removed (sometimes with a bit of force)... but when you put it back together, you ALWAYS have one screw left over, and yet all the screw holes are filled? I have had that happen so many times, one of my laptops has a section in my leftover screws box that has about 12, and that's from a single laptop, yet it always goes back together just fine, and all the screw holes are filled still... On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: I use iFixit all the time. It has the best take apart guides I've found on the internet. And yes, I've taken apart quite a few G4 iBooks, and some of them more then once. :) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:40 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: Sounds like you've taken one apart? Fortunately there is a web site called www.Ifixit.com which I used to be able to do that for a customer. -Original Message- From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:25 pm Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem. No kidding. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:22 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on, but not impossible. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- -Sent from a Windows PC -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at
ibook G3 OS X.2 to OS X.4 maybe?
Anyone had any success at getting an iBook that is a 300 mhz processor with 160 MB of ram to 10.4 without taking the hard drive out and doing it using Firewire with another machine? I upgraded my Powerbook G3 to 10.4 but I had to do it as an external drive using Firewire. I've taken this iBook apart before and it's a real pain and nightmare! Thanks in advance! 1 eMac 1.4 1 G4 1 PowerBook G3 several PPC's --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
I have an eMac with just 1 gig of ram, and an 80 gig hard drive running 10.5.6 or 7, I can't remember which, and it runs just fine. My eMac is a 1.42 mhz machine. The only way to know is to try it and see. You can never have enough ram in any machine. The Apple OS is more efficient with memory than a Windows based machine. Garth -Original Message- From: WAYNE H FOWLER whfo...@msn.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 3:23 pm Subject: Running OS X 10.5 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.? I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now.? When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.? Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration?? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs?? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FW: Results of InTEXTicated Driving (0.00/3.50) OT maybe?
I have to say something to all this. Maybe people should go back to horse and buggy? It's not the size of the vehicle that is a problem, it's a lack of education of people before getting their license. I've seen guys driving tractor trailers making turns while talking on cell phones. They know they have 80,000 pounds when empty and that they have a 53 foot trailer behind them. Most, not all, tractor trailer drivers are professionals and considerate. If you see one that is being stupid, call the number on the trailer or find the company on the trailer and call them with the trailer or truck number if you can't do that, get their tag number. Companies want to be notified of bad drivers. I've made my fair share of calls. People that get their car only license have probably never been on a motorcycle and therefore don't know what it's like to be the smallest thing on the road. They've probably never been in the front seat of a tractor trailer either. I've had my fair share of motorcycle accidents, as well as car accidents. I had a woman do a U-turn in front of me like I wasn't even there! She was an older woman and when I asked if she saw me, her response was, I only look out for cars! Talk about being blind. The person that handles a SUV like it's a smaller car would have to be very aware of their vehicle as well as the surroundings. You can kill someone with any size car. Oh, and SUV's have been around a very long time, it's just that there are more of them, as well as more cars in general. The irony is the 3 safest forms of transportation per passenger mile are elevators, nobody ever has a head on collision with one, airplanes, and then motorcycles believe it or not. That is based on per passenger mile. Something else, when you have a multi passenger SUV filled to capacity, it is more efficient per passenger mile than an economy car that only seats 2 or 4 that gets better gas mileage. e That accident was truly sad, and could have been tragic had the baby died. It wasn't the size of the vehicle that was the problem, it was what the driver was doing that really mattered. She wasn't paying attention, which is how most collisions happen. Accidents are things that nobody could have fore seen or done anything to prevent it. Collisions are preventable. I was a motorcycle courier in Washington DC a very long time ago, so I know how stupid people can be in cars that don't look. In a message dated 2/24/2009 1:21:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, macso...@brightok.net writes: ./aal wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net mailto:macso...@brightok.net wrote: and finally. suv's should be illegal or at least require a CDL to purchase they are NOT safer, they are more dangerous I must take offense at that! I want a suv for the climate protected cargo area. But can I justify the cost of suv and insurance? No way. The last vehicle a S10 extended cab was pricey enough for me. Maybe illegal for a teenager or under 25. As to cdl, why would I want to go to truck driving school to get a cdl? why? so you could drive one So you are saying that I should buy a 1 and 1/2 ton or bigger truck to haul 10 computers in. no one WANTS any lic but if you dont have one, you are punished by the law suv are not cars, they dont handle like cars, they dont fit in traffic like cars, they dont stop like cars, they should not be licensed like cars So in other words my 1/2 or 3/4 ton (or 1 ton) pickup should have a special license also, which is what a American made suv is based on. I drove p/ups around San Francisco bay for 15+ years. I would prefer the ride, protection and view in traffic. Boy this will make a lot of senior citizens, farmers, contractors, etc upset. A p/up is hard to work out of if you have a shell on it. I suppose you also think cargo vans, conversion vans etc should have special license also. that is why there are special lic for motorcycles...DUH I have seen plenty 25+ drivers scoot their suv as if it was a compact hatchback why must you take offense? are you who I am talking about? the world was fine without suvs for many decades the escalation of car size is getting out of hand. bigger is not safer, well the suv driver will survive so at least they can be sued by the deceadants family and live to be sentanced for veh manslaughter **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4,
Re: Firewall ports?
Thanks for straightening me out on the maximum number of devices on a single fire wire port. I knew it was more than what you could do with USB, but couldn't remember the exact number. Fire wire actually has intelligence built in to it, at least I think so, especially if it's able to communicate to other devices without the use of a computer. It is also more efficient than USB as well when it comes to the actual transfer speeds. And with Fire wire 800, it's even faster than USB 2.0. In a message dated 2/3/2009 11:20:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu writes: On Feb 2, 2009, at 5:54 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I believe you are allowed to daisy chain up to 7 before you are required to have a hub, but not sure about that part. Devices may be daisy-chained up to 63 devices. There's a 4.5 meter total cable length limit, and standard 6-pin FW supplies 45 watts of power. This per the standard, via Wikipedia. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewall ports?
Firewire, or IEEE 1394, ports allow for daisy chaining, so as long as you have another Firewire ports on either of the external back up drives, all you have to do is plug it into one of them. I too have a 1.42 Ghz eMac and that is what I do. All it takes is a standard Firewire cable to connect one to another. I believe you are allowed to daisy chain up to 7 before you are required to have a hub, but not sure about that part. Garth In a message dated 2/1/2009 1:44:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, whs...@verizon.net writes: Hello, I have two firewall ports on my eMac , which I use for two external backup drives. I'd like to add a third drive. Is there any way to do this cheaply? Thanks for any help past and present. Wilton Wilton Shaw _whs...@verizon.net_ (mailto:whs...@verizon.net) **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac base screws
There are 2 sizes of anything, it either fits, or it doesn't! Yes, I know that feeling really well. I too have an eMac that I have yet to take apart. Garth In a message dated 11/22/2008 1:33:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody know off the top of their head what size allen/hex wrench the screws for the clear/acrylic base takes? I can't find my big set and hate to buy a new set. Charles **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large iMac Purchase
I remember reading a long time ago, about a school that was in NC I believe, that had the same predicament as yours. They looked at the total cost of ownership over the long term, not just short term. They discovered that the TCO or total cost of ownership was far less using Macs than it was with Windows based machines. You can go through several OS upgrades before having to actually replace a Mac. Also, if you go to _www.XvsXP.com_ (http://www.XvsXP.com) you will find a comparison between OS X.4 and XP as well as being directed to their new web site of _http://www.macvswindows.com_ (http://www.macvswindows.com) which you will also find interesting as well. A senior lead programmer from Microsoft said a few years ago, the best computer for running Windows XP is an Intel based Mac. Recently it has been found the best laptop for running Vista is a Macbook Pro. There are less hardware issues when you plug something in and you have multiple external booting options with a new Mac, as you can boot from an external firewire or an external USB drive without any problems at all. With a Mac, you can read and write to an external Windows drive as I do it all the time. For the most part, upgrading the hardware on a newer Mac requires just about the same hardware that you would find in a Windows based machine. All Macs are PC's but not all PC's are Macs. A PC aka a personal computer is a box of hardware that runs an operating system that then runs programs. There are some programs you can only find for Mac, such as Final Cut Pro. Microsoft usually has a version of their Windows based programs for Mac so they can't say they can't use Microsoft programs. Just my two cents worth. Also, you don't have to worry about viruses with Macs like you do with Windows as the security vulnerabilities aren't there like they are with Windows. The Mac OS X was built from the ground up and is certified as a Unix version and has been around a lot longer than Microsoft has been around. It also sounds like your IT guy needs to be drinking Zavita which will help get rid of his brain fog. In a message dated 9/22/2008 11:06:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just reading the iMac Purchase thread and though the membership would like to hear this. I am a Teacher and have been doing IT work at our School for many years.I started with an LC 475 and have owned and operated just about everything Mac-Made since then. Five years ago our School Board amalgamated with another large School Board and subsequently came up with something called the T.M.P. or Tech Master Plan whereas every school will receive new equipment every five years. We have just finished our 1st five years and so will be replacing about 100 computers plus peripherals. There is a specific formula which we must adhere to that states what we can buy.The last five years were spent with mostly IBM Think Centers and Thinkpads although we had some iBooks and eMacs as well. This time around I am going to push iMacs.Due to the Capacitor problems with some of the emacs I talked them into an advance on the TMP and we have been using our new iMacs since last June (17 total).These are in the Art Dept. and Media. Studies. I have developed a fairly convincing argument for an all iMac purchase i.e. iMacs are cutting edge MultiMedia and kids just LOVE them.If they REALLY have to have Windows then fine we can accommodate that for minimal cost (boot camp or aftermarket).Lastly it is VERY well known that Macs are considerably less expensive to operate. I like to get right to the point.If anyone has further comments or contributions FIRE AWAY. P.S. We are on a School LAN connected to a Board WAN. The majority of the administrators are not particularly clued-in but the main IT Manager is a Pc guy. **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large iMac Purchase
I guess another way of putting it would be to ask them if they would like a free computer as in buy one get one free. Buy a Mac and you can dual boot to Windows and you would spend less on a copy of Windows than you would if you had to buy a second machine to just run Windows. So I guess if you look at the cost of the Mac, add the copy of Windows and divide in half, that would give you the real cost of the Mac, and it's also very unlikely that you can get a Windows machine for that price either. Just MHO there. In a message dated 9/22/2008 12:19:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sep 22, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Mark W. wrote: If they REALLY have to have Windows then fine we can accommodate that for minimal cost (boot camp or aftermarket).Lastly it is VERY well known that Macs are considerably less expensive to operate. This is why the Mac is making serious inroads in the higher ed market...you buy one machine, and can have multiple OS'es on it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
