Re: Webmail
Thanks a lot to everyone!!! I'll try all the solutions you have suggested and I'm sure I'll solve my problems! Stefano C Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Monday 16 October 2006 16:47, Zachariah Mully wrote: > Yes, that's what I was alluding to... Outlook+Horde+Kolab does not work > well at all. Cyrus does seem to work pretty well with Egroupware. wt -- Warren Turkal, Research Associate III/Systems Administrator Colorado State University, Dept. of Atmospheric Science Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 23:24 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > Zachariah Mully wrote: > > > > I would stay far far away from kolab for anything more than one or two > > person use. Especially if you plan on using it with Outlook as the > > Outlook connector stores the Kolab data in a binary format, making it > > unsearchable on the server side, hence retardedly slow as you need to > > suck down an entire folder (the complete message, not just the headers), > > You're talking about the Toltec Connector, correct? > > There is an alternative called KONSEC connector that stores non-mail > items as a binary mail with a special header in a separate folder IIRC. Same difference. Since all objects in Kolab are email messages, if they're binary, they have to be processed on the client side, since that format eliminates any server side searching... And pretty much eliminates any reason for storing the objects as email messages in the first place. Dumb architecture decision. KONSEC does the same damn thing as Toltec, and is just as worthless, especially in a heterogenious environment of webclients and Oulook, you're punishing your webclient users as well as making your server do some completely unnecessary heavy lifting. Not mention the architectures severe suckitude over slow WAN links. But, you know, other than that, it's great ;) > > For just webmail though, Horde is great, especially if you install the > > sieve rule manager and the password tool, then people can manage their > > own vacation/ooo rules, as well as update their passwords. > > AFAIK horde's CVS branch offers integration into Kolab (or the other way > around, there was sth. on the kolab site) Yes, that's what I was alluding to... Outlook+Horde+Kolab does not work well at all. Z Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Zachariah Mully wrote: I would stay far far away from kolab for anything more than one or two person use. Especially if you plan on using it with Outlook as the Outlook connector stores the Kolab data in a binary format, making it unsearchable on the server side, hence retardedly slow as you need to suck down an entire folder (the complete message, not just the headers), You're talking about the Toltec Connector, correct? There is an alternative called KONSEC connector that stores non-mail items as a binary mail with a special header in a separate folder IIRC. openxchange looks to be a more viable alternative, especially if you have to support webclient users. Last time I checked it wouldn't provide some features but that was ages ago - don't intend to start a groupware server discussion here either. :-) For just webmail though, Horde is great, especially if you install the sieve rule manager and the password tool, then people can manage their own vacation/ooo rules, as well as update their passwords. AFAIK horde's CVS branch offers integration into Kolab (or the other way around, there was sth. on the kolab site) regards Martin Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Alexandros Vellis wrote: On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 14:13 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact scenario. Squirrelmail DEVEL branch (1.5) now supports STARTTLS after protocol handshake in SMTP, IMAP, layers, as well as in ManageSieve (if you are using avelsieve plugin) ; PHP5 is needed for this feature. However, DEVEL CVS is undergoing some changes at this point. THX, I'll keep an eye on that! Martin Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 14:13 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I > didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't > use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL > layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact > scenario. Squirrelmail DEVEL branch (1.5) now supports STARTTLS after protocol handshake in SMTP, IMAP, layers, as well as in ManageSieve (if you are using avelsieve plugin) ; PHP5 is needed for this feature. However, DEVEL CVS is undergoing some changes at this point. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 06:57 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello everyone! > I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. > What can you suggest me? > I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: > 1) > Squirremail > 2) > Horde-IMP > 3) > Openwebmail > > I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would > maintain it. > I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that > should be so cool. > It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share > contacts and other informaions. > Does anyone have some experiences in that way? > > Thakns a lot in advance!!! http://wiki.horde.org/TurbaOutlook2003?referrer=HowTo This is for Turba using sql db. I use LDAP but this answers OP Craig Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 14:13 +0200, Martin G.H. Minkler wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > > I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that > > should be so cool. > > It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share > > contacts and other informaions. > > Does anyone have some experiences in that way? > > > > If You're looking for groupware based on cyrus visit http://www.kolab.org > > Glueing a webmail frontend like squirrelmail to that should be no problem. > > Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I > didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't > use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL > layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact > scenario. > I would stay far far away from kolab for anything more than one or two person use. Especially if you plan on using it with Outlook as the Outlook connector stores the Kolab data in a binary format, making it unsearchable on the server side, hence retardedly slow as you need to suck down an entire folder (the complete message, not just the headers), parse each message, then search them just to find a single event. The developers response to my questions about the inefficiencies of their storage format was basically "that is the clients problem [parsing/caching the kolab objects]". So don't plan on using it with Horde, as you'll kill your server, as every operation in the web calendar, for instance, will require your webserver to fetch and parse every calendar object. openxchange looks to be a more viable alternative, especially if you have to support webclient users. For just webmail though, Horde is great, especially if you install the sieve rule manager and the password tool, then people can manage their own vacation/ooo rules, as well as update their passwords. Z Z Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Hi! I have tried squirrelmail and horde IMP. While squirrelmail is very easy to implement, I prefer IMP for it's superior feature list But it's a hell to configure it the first time with all it's thousand options because I found most of them having the wrong default in my opinion. Best, Daniel On 16.10.2006 13:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello everyone! > I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. > What can you suggest me? > I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: > 1) > Squirremail > 2) > Horde-IMP > 3) > Openwebmail > > I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would > maintain it. > I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that > should be so cool. > It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share > contacts and other informaions. > Does anyone have some experiences in that way? > > Thakns a lot in advance!!! > > Stefano C. > > Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ > Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
Hi, I only know a older version of Squirremail as user and the Horde as Admin. So i will only say something to Horde. We are running Horde with IMP, Ingo, Turba, Kronolithe, Nag and Mnemo. Horde supports the features of cyrus like (quota Display, ACL and timesiev). The Turba, Kronolithe, Nag and Mnemo support sharing of adressbooks, kalendar, todo-lists and notes. To interact with Outlook you may want to have a look at kolab http://kolab.org . Michael Menge Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everyone! I would realize a webmail system based on Cyrus IMAP. What can you suggest me? I've find out these different products that could be usefull for my purposes: 1) Squirremail 2) Horde-IMP 3) Openwebmail I have set Cyrus to work with ssaslauth authentication style and I would maintain it. I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that should be so cool. It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share contacts and other informaions. Does anyone have some experiences in that way? Thakns a lot in advance!!! Stefano C. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME krytographische Unterschrift Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I would use Horde because it seems there is a gorupware Horde-based that should be so cool. It could be fantastic if Horde could interface with MS Outlook to share contacts and other informaions. Does anyone have some experiences in that way? If You're looking for groupware based on cyrus visit http://www.kolab.org Glueing a webmail frontend like squirrelmail to that should be no problem. Generally I haven't had any problems with squirrelmail except that I didn't manage to configure it to use plaintext+TLS auth since it won't use STARTTLS according to IMAPS but tries to establish a classic SSL layer with the server before even speaking IMAP - I forgot the exact scenario. Martin Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: webmail not saving to sent-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We have moved our mail server to a new version of cyrus. We have just discovered that webmail (IMP) is not able to save sent messages to the existing sent-mail folder. localhost> lm user/[EMAIL PROTECTED] user/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (\HasChildren) localhost> lm user/alias/[EMAIL PROTECTED] user/alias/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (\HasNoChildren) In Outlook I can view both folders plus I can copy or move messages between them. I don’t know how imp delivers copies to cyrus, but is this a deliver issue? I doubt it. IMP is likely using APPEND to stick a copy in the sent mail folder. Turn on telemetry logging for your account, send an e-mail message using IMP and the telemetry logs should tell you why it's failing. Thanks, Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: webmail+kerberos+cyrus imapd
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:21:02 -0400, "Jeffrey T Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > My curus-imapd authenticates using gssapi kerberos5. > > Is there a webmail system that authenticates users to the cyrus-imapd > > using kerberos5? > > Maybe through pubcookie? > > I cannot find any directions.. > > At CMU, we are using a slightly modiffied version of SquirrelMail > which uses pubcookie with kerberos ticket passing for authentication. > On the webmail server, instead of letting PHP make the connection to > Cyrus, we instead fork a copy of imtest (which authenticates using the > passed tickets). Then SquirrelMail sends its IMAP commands over > the connection opened by imtest. > > I can publish the patches we made to the Cyrus wiki shortly. > > -jeaton > > -- > Jeffrey T. Eatonesp > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Email Systems Team LeaderCarnegie-Mellon > University > > I think a lot of people are already using kerberized imap with webmail, is everybody making their own webmail interface? isnt there a common solution? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: webmail+kerberos+cyrus imapd
I use an implementation of Horde + Imp to provide webmail services. I do not use Kerberos myself although I believe it is an option with Horde + Imp. Horde's homepage is http://www.horde.org (I feel as though this is getting a bit off topic!) If you go for Horde to get started you will need to use the CVS HEAD releases of Horde, framework and Imp (CVS Horde then cd into that dir and CVS framework and Imp) You can always add other packages when you have the basics up and running. There are very good docs in the docs folders. For krb5 there is extra info in horde/framework/Auth/Auth/krb5.php Nikola Milutinovic wrote: --- Jeffrey T Eaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My curus-imapd authenticates using gssapi kerberos5. Is there a webmail system that authenticates users to the cyrus-imapd using kerberos5? Maybe through pubcookie? I cannot find any directions.. At CMU, we are using a slightly modiffied version of SquirrelMail which uses pubcookie with kerberos ticket passing for authentication. On the webmail server, instead of letting PHP make the connection to Cyrus, we instead fork a copy of imtest (which authenticates using the passed tickets). Then SquirrelMail sends its IMAP commands over the connection opened by imtest. Has anyone considered a full Kerberos approach? Oops! Can it be done? I mean, a web browser authenticating via SPNEGO/GSSAPI and that ticket being used for IMAP. I have a feeling that it cannot be done since the client tickets are not compatible. Different services. One is HTTP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and the other is IMAP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] That is not transferable, right? Nix. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: webmail+kerberos+cyrus imapd
--- Jeffrey T Eaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My curus-imapd authenticates using gssapi kerberos5. > > Is there a webmail system that authenticates users to the cyrus-imapd > > using kerberos5? > > Maybe through pubcookie? > > I cannot find any directions.. > > At CMU, we are using a slightly modiffied version of SquirrelMail > which uses pubcookie with kerberos ticket passing for authentication. > On the webmail server, instead of letting PHP make the connection to > Cyrus, we instead fork a copy of imtest (which authenticates using the > passed tickets). Then SquirrelMail sends its IMAP commands over > the connection opened by imtest. Has anyone considered a full Kerberos approach? Oops! Can it be done? I mean, a web browser authenticating via SPNEGO/GSSAPI and that ticket being used for IMAP. I have a feeling that it cannot be done since the client tickets are not compatible. Different services. One is HTTP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and the other is IMAP/[EMAIL PROTECTED] That is not transferable, right? Nix. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: webmail+kerberos+cyrus imapd
> My curus-imapd authenticates using gssapi kerberos5. > Is there a webmail system that authenticates users to the cyrus-imapd > using kerberos5? > Maybe through pubcookie? > I cannot find any directions.. At CMU, we are using a slightly modiffied version of SquirrelMail which uses pubcookie with kerberos ticket passing for authentication. On the webmail server, instead of letting PHP make the connection to Cyrus, we instead fork a copy of imtest (which authenticates using the passed tickets). Then SquirrelMail sends its IMAP commands over the connection opened by imtest. I can publish the patches we made to the Cyrus wiki shortly. -jeaton -- Jeffrey T. Eatonesp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email Systems Team LeaderCarnegie-Mellon University Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail?
I'm running horde 2.2.4 and IMP 3.2.2, and RELENG_1 release of Ingo (for sieve support). On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 19:11, Kendrick Vargas wrote: > Etienne Goyer wrote: > > > I run Horde/IMP with Cyrus-imapd successfully, but I would not dare call > > it "fairly simple". Config is actually quite complicated, but it > > support most of Cyrus features (Sieve, ACL, quota, etc). > > > > Feel free to ask any question you might have about my setup. > > Ok... what version of Horde/IMP are you using that has Sieve support? :-) > I've been meaning to get Horde/IMP CVS up and running just for that feature. > Well, maybe a couple more, but the important one is Sieve! > -peace -- Edward Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Website http://outoforder.cc/ --- Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail?
Etienne Goyer wrote: I run Horde/IMP with Cyrus-imapd successfully, but I would not dare call it "fairly simple". Config is actually quite complicated, but it support most of Cyrus features (Sieve, ACL, quota, etc). Feel free to ask any question you might have about my setup. Ok... what version of Horde/IMP are you using that has Sieve support? :-) I've been meaning to get Horde/IMP CVS up and running just for that feature. Well, maybe a couple more, but the important one is Sieve! -peace -- Let he who is without clue kiss my ass. --- Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail?
I run Horde/IMP with Cyrus-imapd successfully, but I would not dare call it "fairly simple". Config is actually quite complicated, but it support most of Cyrus features (Sieve, ACL, quota, etc). Feel free to ask any question you might have about my setup. On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:58:06PM +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote: > > Is there a good and fairly simple web mail application to run with > Cyrus-IMAP, Postfix, MySQL and Web-Cyradm? I looked very briefly at > squirrelmail, but it doesn't seem to support the default setup designed by > Luc. > > > Anders Norrbring > > > --- > Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus > Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html -- Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 02:11:35PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > Is there a sieve builder plugin for IMP? Yes, it's called Ingo. It does have some limitation (ie it does not use TLS) and require to use a snapshot or CVS version of Horde. -- Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
Ive been using horde/imp for years and I never recall this to be the case. Its all in php in your webserver, so runs at whatever you have that set up as. The excption may be the imap proxy (which keeps a imap session alive because things run in a webserver will of course be short lived)... If you had that running on port:143, it would of course require root privilages.. Quoting Wil Cooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is quickly getting OT, and I apologize in advance to the rest of > the list, but does Horde still require some parts to run SUID root? The > last time I really looked at it was several years ago, and it did then > if memory serves. >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
On 2003.07.15 18:49 Wil Cooley wrote: => On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:27, Etienne Goyer wrote: => > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, => as => > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. => => This is quickly getting OT, and I apologize in advance to the rest of => the list, but does Horde still require some parts to run SUID root? => The => last time I really looked at it was several years ago, and it did => then => if memory serves. I can't imagine what did back then - I know nothing does now though. It's "just" a bunch of PHP scripts. --Jo
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 18:49, Wil Cooley wrote: > This is quickly getting OT, and I apologize in advance to the rest of > the list, but does Horde still require some parts to run SUID root? The > last time I really looked at it was several years ago, and it did then > if memory serves. Ignore me; I guess I don't know what I'm talking about or my memory is skewed. Wil -- Wil Cooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Naked Ape Consultinghttp://nakedape.cc * * * * Linux, UNIX, Networking and Security Solutions * * * * * Tired of spam and viruses in your e-mail? Get the * * Naked Ape Mail Defender! http://nakedape.cc/r/maildefender * signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:27, Etienne Goyer wrote: > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. This is quickly getting OT, and I apologize in advance to the rest of the list, but does Horde still require some parts to run SUID root? The last time I really looked at it was several years ago, and it did then if memory serves. Wil -- Wil Cooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Naked Ape Consultinghttp://nakedape.cc * * * * Linux, UNIX, Networking and Security Solutions * * * * * Tired of spam and viruses in your e-mail? Get the * * Naked Ape Mail Defender! http://nakedape.cc/r/maildefender * signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
'IMP' is the mail reader component from the Horde project. They also have components for what you mention sieve rule builder => Ingo (procmail as well via ftp)[1] calender => Kronolith address book => Turba and pleanty of other components. Kronolith and Turba are both stable, having first been build into IMP. Kronolith CVS ..."supports shared calendars, allowing others various levels of access to your calendar, better iCalendar support, and generation of iCalendar free/busy information." If your just going for webmail Squirrelmail may currently have faster apparent developement, but the usual suspects over at horde have been focusing a lot of there energy at the core framework, and laying the ground work for other components. [1] only in cvs, but is beyond 1.0 Quoting Marcelino Vallejo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I agree with Scott, Squirrelmail has lots of contributed plugins such as > sieve rule builder, calendar, address book, that makes it an intresting > choice. The only what remains to do is to improve the folders tree view, > but it can be deployed in minutes without to much effort. > > Regards > > James Satterfield wrote: > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > > > James. > > > > >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
Is there a sieve builder plugin for IMP?
I'm already heading down the road with IMP/Horde. About half way installed.
Thus far, Horde has been quite simple. My biggest problems have been dealing
with the FreeBSD ports. php4 in particular pissed me off to no end.
ALL_OPTIONS=BCMATH BZIP2 CALENDAR CDB CRACK CTYPE CURL DBASE DBX DOMXML \
DOMXSLT EXIF FILEPRO FRIBIDI FTP GD GDBM GETTEXT GMP HYPERWAVE
\
ICONV IMAP INTERBASE INIFILE MBSTRING MCAL MCVE MCRYPT MHASH \
MIME MING MYSQL NCURSES OPENLDAP OPENSSL ORACLE OVERLOAD PCNTL
\
PCRE PDFLIB POSIX POSTGRESQL PSPELL READLINE RECODE SESSION \
SHMOP SNMP SOCKETS SYBASEDB SYBASECT SYSVSEM SYSVSHM TOKENIZER
\
UNIXODBC WDDX XML XMLRPC XSLT YAZ YP ZIP ZLIB
.for opt in ${ALL_OPTIONS}
.if defined(WITH_${opt}) || defined(WITHOUT_${opt})
BATCH= yes
*grumble* Sorry... Still venting over that.
Oh yeah. Back to IMP and Sieve.. Any such pluging/feature?
James.
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:02 pm, Andrew Morgan wrote:
> I don't want to get into a big feature comparison between Horde/IMP and
> other webmail software, but have you guys looked at the Horde projects
> website (http://www.horde.org/projects.php) lately? There are a LOT of
> Horde modules out there. We use the main ones here at OSU: IMP (mail),
> Turba (contacts), and Kronolith (calendar).
>
> I'll definately agree that setting it up right takes time and testing, but
> with that complexity comes a lot of flexibility.
>
> Andy
>
> PS - IMP has spell checking built in.
>
> On 15 Jul 2003, Richard Houston wrote:
> > I agree and lets not forget the huge list of plug-ins that can be
> > installed to further extend the already feature rich system.
> >
> > The spell checker plug in was a huge + for my users.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think
> > > SquirrelMail has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the
> > > two projects over time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster
> > > development model by being very open to code contributions and
> > > suggestions from outside developers. Now that it's included in the
> > > Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, I expect that SquirrelMail
> > > will gather even more developer mindshare.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Langley
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Systems Administrator
> > > Rural Network Services
> > >
> > > Ronen Amity writes:
> > > > Horde IMP is the best choise.
> > > >
> > > > At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote:
> > > >> I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once
> > > >> you figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number
> > > >> of great features for a web-based mail client and with the
> > > >> additional applications in the Horde framework you have the
> > > >> potential for a Portal application.
> > > >>
> > > >> We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services
> > > >> Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of
> > > >> Massachusetts email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst,
> > > >> MA 01003-4640
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote:
> > > >> > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But,
> > > >> > as somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote:
> > > >> > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > James.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc.
> > > >> > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Richard Houston
> >
> > R.L.H. Consulting
> > 204-255-5135
> > www.rlhc.net
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
> Squirrel mail has more plugins but is spread out over the system more Say what? SquirrelMail is completely self-contained in one directory structure. I have it in /projects/squirrelmail on my development machine, and /usr/local/share/squirrelmail on my production server. How is it spread out? You CAN put your data & attachment directories outside of SquirrelMail's tree, but by default it's all contained. -- Chris Hilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, James Satterfield wrote:
> Is there a sieve builder plugin for IMP?
> I'm already heading down the road with IMP/Horde. About half way installed.
> Thus far, Horde has been quite simple. My biggest problems have been dealing
> with the FreeBSD ports. php4 in particular pissed me off to no end.
> ALL_OPTIONS=BCMATH BZIP2 CALENDAR CDB CRACK CTYPE CURL DBASE DBX DOMXML \
> DOMXSLT EXIF FILEPRO FRIBIDI FTP GD GDBM GETTEXT GMP HYPERWAVE
> \
> ICONV IMAP INTERBASE INIFILE MBSTRING MCAL MCVE MCRYPT MHASH \
> MIME MING MYSQL NCURSES OPENLDAP OPENSSL ORACLE OVERLOAD PCNTL
> \
> PCRE PDFLIB POSIX POSTGRESQL PSPELL READLINE RECODE SESSION \
> SHMOP SNMP SOCKETS SYBASEDB SYBASECT SYSVSEM SYSVSHM TOKENIZER
> \
> UNIXODBC WDDX XML XMLRPC XSLT YAZ YP ZIP ZLIB
>
> .for opt in ${ALL_OPTIONS}
> .if defined(WITH_${opt}) || defined(WITHOUT_${opt})
> BATCH= yes
> *grumble* Sorry... Still venting over that.
> Oh yeah. Back to IMP and Sieve.. Any such pluging/feature?
>
> James.
We don't use it here (partly because it is only available from CVS right
now), but the Ingo project in Horde can generate sieve and procmail
filters. I don't believe there is a release for stable Horde, but you
might ask on the Ingo mailing list.
Andy
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
> Hi! Is it possible to use SSL/TLS connections to IMAP server from > squirellmail? Yes. *IF* you have PHP 4.3.x, SquirrelMail 1.4.x, and Cyrus listening for IMAPS connections (ie. no STARTTLS command required) -- Chris Hilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SqurrelMail and TLS support (was: Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?)
On 15 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Is it possible to use SSL/TLS connections to IMAP server from > squirellmail? Yes, you can do that. Set the parameter: $use_imap_tls = true; in the /etc/squirrelmail/config.php file, and as long as you are running PHP 4.3 or later and have the openssl extension loaded in /etc/php.ini it will do STARTTLS when communicating with the IMAP server. This is in SquirrelMail 1.4.1, I think this capability was added in 1.4.0. You can also set $use_smtp_tls = true; for its connections to the SMTP server. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden| Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Making electronic 1252 Judson Street | Phone: +1 (909) 795-3877 | communications work Redlands, CA 92374 | Fax: +1 (909) 795-0327 | reliably for Christian USA | http://www.xc.org/jonathan| missions worldwide
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
Hi! Is it possible to use SSL/TLS connections to IMAP server from squirellmail? Sergios 15 Июль 2003 20:53, Michael J Barber написал: > I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion of features but Imp has > spellchecking as well. It is one package and one line in the config. The > package ispell (I think) is on most systems I believe. > > They both are very nice and work very well. > > Horde/Imp/... has a very nice self contained structure. Very little exists > outside the main directory tree. > > Squirrel mail has more plugins but is spread out over the system more and > needs a bit of tweaking to ensure good security. I've used both and like > both. > > In the end you cannot lose choosing either one, but choose the one that > fits your abilities and needs the best. > > > Michael J Barber > SUNY Plattsburgh > CMS Computer Labs Technician > 116D Feinberg Library > Plattsburgh, NY 12901 > 518.564.2319 > > > > Quoting Richard Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ^^ I agree and lets not forget the huge list of plug-ins that can be > ^^ installed to further extend the already feature rich system. > ^^ > ^^ The spell checker plug in was a huge + for my users. > ^^ > ^^ Thanks > ^^ > ^^ Rich > ^^ > ^^ On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ^^ > I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think > SquirrelMail ^^ > ^^ > has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the two projects > ^^ over > ^^ > time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster development model by > being ^^ > ^^ > very open to code contributions and suggestions from outside > developers. ^^ > ^^ > Now that it's included in the Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, > I ^^ > ^^ > expect that SquirrelMail will gather even more developer mindshare. > ^^ > > ^^ > -- > ^^ > Scott Langley > ^^ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ^^ > Systems Administrator > ^^ > Rural Network Services > ^^ > > ^^ > > ^^ > > ^^ > Ronen Amity writes: > ^^ > > ^^ > > Horde IMP is the best choise. > ^^ > > > ^^ > > At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: > ^^ > > > ^^ > > > ^^ > >> I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but > once ^^ you > ^^ > >> figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of > ^^ great > ^^ > >> features for a web-based mail client and with the additional > ^^ applications > ^^ > >> in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal > ^^ application. > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> -- > ^^ > >> David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services > ^^ > >> Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of > Massachusetts ^^ > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, > MA 01003-4640 ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, > ^^ as > ^^ > >> > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > ^^ > >> > > ^^ > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield > wrote: ^^ > >> > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > ^^ > >> > > > ^^ > >> > > James. > ^^ > >> > > ^^ > >> > -- > ^^ > >> > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > ^^ > >> > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ^^ > >> > > ^^ -- > ^^ > ^^ > ^^ Richard Houston > ^^ > ^^ R.L.H. Consulting > ^^ 204-255-5135 > ^^ www.rlhc.net > ^^ > ^^ > ^^ > > - > - > This site run by Horde http://www.horde.org > Apache http://httpd.apache.org > PHPhttp://www.php.net > PostgreSQL http://www.postgresql.org > MySQL http://www.mysql.com > Postfixhttp://www.postfix.org > Cyrus-Imap http://asg.web.cmu.edu/ > and of course > GNU Linux by RedHat http://www.redhat.com > -
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I use Horde/Imp to supply webmail for the company I work for. I have no complaints about either package, we tested both and went with Horde for the reasons Michael suggested and mainly for the spell checking capabilities. Staff have found the web interface of horde/imp so good they use webmail internally as well as externally. I have found as a network admin that horde was very easy to configure and has been very easy to manage ever since. Just my two cents worth. Cheers Brett On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 04:53, Michael J Barber wrote: > I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion of features but Imp has > spellchecking as well. It is one package and one line in the config. The > package ispell (I think) is on most systems I believe. > > They both are very nice and work very well. > > Horde/Imp/... has a very nice self contained structure. Very little exists > outside the main directory tree. > > Squirrel mail has more plugins but is spread out over the system more and needs > a bit of tweaking to ensure good security. I've used both and like both. > > In the end you cannot lose choosing either one, but choose the one that fits > your abilities and needs the best. > > > Michael J Barber > SUNY Plattsburgh > CMS Computer Labs Technician > 116D Feinberg Library > Plattsburgh, NY 12901 > 518.564.2319 > > > > Quoting Richard Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ^^ I agree and lets not forget the huge list of plug-ins that can be > ^^ installed to further extend the already feature rich system. > ^^ > ^^ The spell checker plug in was a huge + for my users. > ^^ > ^^ Thanks > ^^ > ^^ Rich > ^^ > ^^ On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ^^ > I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think SquirrelMail > ^^ > ^^ > has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the two projects > ^^ over > ^^ > time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster development model by being > ^^ > ^^ > very open to code contributions and suggestions from outside developers. > ^^ > ^^ > Now that it's included in the Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, I > ^^ > ^^ > expect that SquirrelMail will gather even more developer mindshare. > ^^ > > ^^ > -- > ^^ > Scott Langley > ^^ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ^^ > Systems Administrator > ^^ > Rural Network Services > ^^ > > ^^ > > ^^ > > ^^ > Ronen Amity writes: > ^^ > > ^^ > > Horde IMP is the best choise. > ^^ > > > ^^ > > At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: > ^^ > > > ^^ > > > ^^ > >> I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once > ^^ you > ^^ > >> figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of > ^^ great > ^^ > >> features for a web-based mail client and with the additional > ^^ applications > ^^ > >> in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal > ^^ application. > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> -- > ^^ > >> David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services > ^^ > >> Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts > ^^ > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, > ^^ as > ^^ > >> > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > ^^ > >> > > ^^ > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > ^^ > >> > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > ^^ > >> > > > ^^ > >> > > James. > ^^ > >> > > ^^ > >> > -- > ^^ > >> > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > ^^ > >> > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ^^ > >> > > ^^ -- > ^^ > ^^ > ^^ Richard Houston > ^^ > ^^ R.L.H. Consulting > ^^ 204-255-5135 > ^^ www.rlhc.net > ^^ > ^^ > ^^ > > - > - > This site run by Horde http://www.horde.org > Apache http://httpd.apache.org > PHPhttp://www.php.net > PostgreSQL http://www.postgresql.org > MySQL http://www.mysql.com > Postfixhttp://www.postfix.org > Cyrus-Imap http://asg.web.cmu.edu/ > and of course > GNU Linux by RedHat http://www.redhat.com > -
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I don't want to get into a big feature comparison between Horde/IMP and other webmail software, but have you guys looked at the Horde projects website (http://www.horde.org/projects.php) lately? There are a LOT of Horde modules out there. We use the main ones here at OSU: IMP (mail), Turba (contacts), and Kronolith (calendar). I'll definately agree that setting it up right takes time and testing, but with that complexity comes a lot of flexibility. Andy PS - IMP has spell checking built in. On 15 Jul 2003, Richard Houston wrote: > I agree and lets not forget the huge list of plug-ins that can be > installed to further extend the already feature rich system. > > The spell checker plug in was a huge + for my users. > > Thanks > > Rich > > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think SquirrelMail > > has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the two projects over > > time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster development model by being > > very open to code contributions and suggestions from outside developers. > > Now that it's included in the Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, I > > expect that SquirrelMail will gather even more developer mindshare. > > > > -- > > Scott Langley > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Systems Administrator > > Rural Network Services > > > > > > > > Ronen Amity writes: > > > > > Horde IMP is the best choise. > > > > > > At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once you > > >> figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of great > > >> features for a web-based mail client and with the additional applications > > >> in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal application. > > >> > > >> We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services > > >> Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts > > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 > > >> > > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > > >> > > >> > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as > > >> > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > > >> > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > >> > > > > >> > > James. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > > >> > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > -- > > > Richard Houston > > R.L.H. Consulting > 204-255-5135 > www.rlhc.net > >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion of features but Imp has spellchecking as well. It is one package and one line in the config. The package ispell (I think) is on most systems I believe. They both are very nice and work very well. Horde/Imp/... has a very nice self contained structure. Very little exists outside the main directory tree. Squirrel mail has more plugins but is spread out over the system more and needs a bit of tweaking to ensure good security. I've used both and like both. In the end you cannot lose choosing either one, but choose the one that fits your abilities and needs the best. Michael J Barber SUNY Plattsburgh CMS Computer Labs Technician 116D Feinberg Library Plattsburgh, NY 12901 518.564.2319 Quoting Richard Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ^^ I agree and lets not forget the huge list of plug-ins that can be ^^ installed to further extend the already feature rich system. ^^ ^^ The spell checker plug in was a huge + for my users. ^^ ^^ Thanks ^^ ^^ Rich ^^ ^^ On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ^^ > I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think SquirrelMail ^^ ^^ > has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the two projects ^^ over ^^ > time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster development model by being ^^ ^^ > very open to code contributions and suggestions from outside developers. ^^ ^^ > Now that it's included in the Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, I ^^ ^^ > expect that SquirrelMail will gather even more developer mindshare. ^^ > ^^ > -- ^^ > Scott Langley ^^ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ > Systems Administrator ^^ > Rural Network Services ^^ > ^^ > ^^ > ^^ > Ronen Amity writes: ^^ > ^^ > > Horde IMP is the best choise. ^^ > > ^^ > > At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: ^^ > > ^^ > > ^^ > >> I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once ^^ you ^^ > >> figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of ^^ great ^^ > >> features for a web-based mail client and with the additional ^^ applications ^^ > >> in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal ^^ application. ^^ > >> ^^ > >> We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. ^^ > >> ^^ > >> ^^ > >> -- ^^ > >> David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services ^^ > >> Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts ^^ > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 ^^ > >> ^^ > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: ^^ > >> ^^ > >> > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, ^^ as ^^ > >> > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: ^^ > >> > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? ^^ > >> > > ^^ > >> > > James. ^^ > >> > ^^ > >> > -- ^^ > >> > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. ^^ > >> > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ > >> > ^^ -- ^^ ^^ ^^ Richard Houston ^^ ^^ R.L.H. Consulting ^^ 204-255-5135 ^^ www.rlhc.net ^^ ^^ ^^ - - This site run by Horde http://www.horde.org Apache http://httpd.apache.org PHPhttp://www.php.net PostgreSQL http://www.postgresql.org MySQL http://www.mysql.com Postfixhttp://www.postfix.org Cyrus-Imap http://asg.web.cmu.edu/ and of course GNU Linux by RedHat http://www.redhat.com -
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I agree and lets not forget the huge list of plug-ins that can be installed to further extend the already feature rich system. The spell checker plug in was a huge + for my users. Thanks Rich On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think SquirrelMail > has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the two projects over > time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster development model by being > very open to code contributions and suggestions from outside developers. > Now that it's included in the Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, I > expect that SquirrelMail will gather even more developer mindshare. > > -- > Scott Langley > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Systems Administrator > Rural Network Services > > > > Ronen Amity writes: > > > Horde IMP is the best choise. > > > > At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: > > > > > >> I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once you > >> figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of great > >> features for a web-based mail client and with the additional applications > >> in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal application. > >> > >> We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services > >> Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 > >> > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > >> > >> > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as > >> > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > >> > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > >> > > > >> > > James. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > >> > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > -- Richard Houston R.L.H. Consulting 204-255-5135 www.rlhc.net
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I agree with Scott, Squirrelmail has lots of contributed plugins such as sieve rule builder, calendar, address book, that makes it an intresting choice. The only what remains to do is to improve the folders tree view, but it can be deployed in minutes without to much effort. Regards James Satterfield wrote: What webmail frontend would you all recommend? James.
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I used to think that IMP was the best choice, but now I think SquirrelMail has surpassed it - or if not, it soon will. Tracking the two projects over time, SquirrelMail seems to have a much faster development model by being very open to code contributions and suggestions from outside developers. Now that it's included in the Redhat and Mandrake Linux distributions, I expect that SquirrelMail will gather even more developer mindshare. -- Scott Langley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Rural Network Services Ronen Amity writes: Horde IMP is the best choise. At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once you figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of great features for a web-based mail client and with the additional applications in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal application. We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. -- David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > > > James. > > -- > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
Horde IMP is the best choise. At 05:48 PM 7/15/2003, David A Powicki wrote: I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once you figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of great features for a web-based mail client and with the additional applications in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal application. We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. -- David Powicki Network Analyst OIT Network Services Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > > > James. > > -- > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I also recommend IMP. It does have a steep learning curve, but once you figure out what is going on it is very powerful. It has a number of great features for a web-based mail client and with the additional applications in the Horde framework you have the potential for a Portal application. We support ~7K users logged in per day two on dual PIII systems. -- David PowickiNetwork Analyst OIT Network Services Voice: 413.545.1605 Fax: 413.545.3203University of Massachusetts email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amherst, MA 01003-4640 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Etienne Goyer wrote: > I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as > somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > > > James. > > -- > Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. > http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I love IMP. It's very flexible and have a ton of features. But, as somebody else mentioned, it's a pain to configure. On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:57:07PM -0700, James Satterfield wrote: > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > James. -- Etienne GoyerLinux Québec Technologies Inc. http://www.LinuxQuebec.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Webmail -- What's recommended?
Another good one is twig at http://twig.screwdriver.net They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. -- Pastor Martin Niemöller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James A. Pattie Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 18:19 To: James Satterfield Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Webmail -- What's recommended? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Satterfield wrote: | What webmail frontend would you all recommend? | | James. | | horde and imp. www.horde.org - -- James A. Pattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux -- SysAdmin / Programmer Xperience, Inc. http://www.pcxperience.com/ http://www.xperienceinc.com/ GPG Key Available at http://www.pcxperience.com/gpgkeys/james.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/EzqAtUXjwPIRLVERAva+AJ9h5c2lwgBzxDKRJdx0vjT/WiramwCfQcqO +wBmVtluu0uDIyvIUE4EZgs= =q0Yq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
I always see alot of people talk about Horde. I once tried installing the thing but gave up after a few hours of reading documentation and installation instructions. I'm using SquirrelMail on my own servers plus all of my company's client's servers. Works flawlessly with Cyrus, at least it has with me anyway :) http://www.squirrelmail.org/ > What webmail frontend would you all recommend? > > James. > > >
Re: Webmail -- What's recommended?
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Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
The IMHO webmail for the Roxen web server, and the derived CAMAS for Caudim webserver both use persistent IMAP connections. I've used an old version of IMHO for quite some without any major problems. Mikael URLS: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~stewa/IMHO/ http://camas.caudium.net/camas/index.rxml On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 00:54, Gary Mills wrote: > Does anyone know of an e-mail web application that doesn't abuse the > IMAP server by making short connections? Most of them simply connect > and disconnect with each HTTP transaction. Is there one that behaves > the same as an IMAP client, using one connection for the duration of > the session. An IMAP proxy is not adequate because most of them only > cache TCP connections and perhaps authentication. These are generally > not the source of most of the transaction overhead.
Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Ted Fines wrote: > Unless the imap connection has a mailbox open. That ties up a potentially > very large memory resource (depending on the size of the mailbox) on the > server. > > I have to say I don't know for certain whether that's true for the cyrus > imapd, but for other imapds I've used, that has been the case. Someone > know for sure? As long as you have a fairly sane mmap implementation (most modern unixes do), this isn't the case for cyrus (well, I suppose it depends on your definition of "large memory resource"). That said, the type of connections held open by an IMAP proxy between webmail sessions aren't holding a mailbox open. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper
Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
I'm not sure how the httpd processes are being tied up, but "tied up" imapds that are otherwise idle don't cost you anything except some swap and a process table entry. They're basicly free. Unless the imap connection has a mailbox open. That ties up a potentially very large memory resource (depending on the size of the mailbox) on the server. I have to say I don't know for certain whether that's true for the cyrus imapd, but for other imapds I've used, that has been the case. Someone know for sure? Ted Fines --On Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:03 AM -0400 Rob Siemborski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Gary Mills wrote: We do use that, and it probably does improve performance. It does have a problem with idle browser connections that accumulate with time. This also ties up a lot of `imapd' and `httpd' processes. It probably needs a client timeout someplace. I haven't had time to investigate further. I'm not sure how the httpd processes are being tied up, but "tied up" imapds that are otherwise idle don't cost you anything except some swap and a process table entry. They're basicly free. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper
Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Gary Mills wrote: > We do use that, and it probably does improve performance. It does have > a problem with idle browser connections that accumulate with time. > This also ties up a lot of `imapd' and `httpd' processes. It probably > needs a client timeout someplace. I haven't had time to investigate > further. I'm not sure how the httpd processes are being tied up, but "tied up" imapds that are otherwise idle don't cost you anything except some swap and a process table entry. They're basicly free. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper
Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 09:27:13PM -0400, Ken Murchison wrote: > > Gary Mills wrote: > >Does anyone know of an e-mail web application that doesn't abuse the > >IMAP server by making short connections? Most of them simply connect > >and disconnect with each HTTP transaction. Is there one that behaves > >the same as an IMAP client, using one connection for the duration of > >the session. An IMAP proxy is not adequate because most of them only > >cache TCP connections and perhaps authentication. These are generally > >not the source of most of the transaction overhead. > > So what part of the connection to you perceive as the most expensive? > The selection of the mailbox? This might be cacheable, but that depends > on how the webmail client is written (ie, simply caching it might screw > up some of the client's logic). I haven't determined that. I suspect, though, that there are limits to what can be cached by a proxy. A better design might involve a persistent portion of the webmail application, that maintains some state across HTTP transactions. The communications between the two portions need not involve IMAP. > FWIW, Dave McMurtrie's imapproxy (http://www.imapproxy.org/) works quite > well with IMP/Cyrus, and is very well written. It doesn't cache the > selected mailbox, but it does keep an authenticated (and optionally > encrypted) connection open with the server. We do use that, and it probably does improve performance. It does have a problem with idle browser connections that accumulate with time. This also ties up a lot of `imapd' and `httpd' processes. It probably needs a client timeout someplace. I haven't had time to investigate further. -- -Gary Mills--Unix Support--U of M Academic Computing and Networking-
Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
Gary Mills wrote: Does anyone know of an e-mail web application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server by making short connections? Most of them simply connect and disconnect with each HTTP transaction. Is there one that behaves the same as an IMAP client, using one connection for the duration of the session. An IMAP proxy is not adequate because most of them only cache TCP connections and perhaps authentication. These are generally not the source of most of the transaction overhead. So what part of the connection to you perceive as the most expensive? The selection of the mailbox? This might be cacheable, but that depends on how the webmail client is written (ie, simply caching it might screw up some of the client's logic). FWIW, Dave McMurtrie's imapproxy (http://www.imapproxy.org/) works quite well with IMP/Cyrus, and is very well written. It doesn't cache the selected mailbox, but it does keep an authenticated (and optionally encrypted) connection open with the server. -- Kenneth Murchison Oceana Matrix Ltd. Software Engineer 21 Princeton Place 716-662-8973 x26 Orchard Park, NY 14127 --PGP Public Key--http://www.oceana.com/~ken/ksm.pgp
Re: Webmail application that doesn't abuse the IMAP server?
Prayer does. You'll have to google it, though. I don't know much about it. Thanks, Dave -- Dave McMurtrie, Systems Programmer University of Pittsburgh Computing Services and Systems Development, Development Services -- UNIX and VMS Services 717P Cathedral of Learning (412)-624-6413 On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Gary Mills wrote: > Does anyone know of an e-mail web application that doesn't abuse the > IMAP server by making short connections? Most of them simply connect > and disconnect with each HTTP transaction. Is there one that behaves > the same as an IMAP client, using one connection for the duration of > the session. An IMAP proxy is not adequate because most of them only > cache TCP connections and perhaps authentication. These are generally > not the source of most of the transaction overhead. > > -- > -Gary Mills--Unix Support--U of M Academic Computing and Networking- >
Re: webmail
> On 02/22/2002 02:12 PM, Steve Wright wrote: > >> Can someone recommend me a good webmail package ? >> At somepoint in the near future I will need to setup webmail on our >> production servers & after seeing the security squirrelmail offers I >> think it will be very hard to make a case for it. >> >> I know of imp, mulberry & silkymail but have not used any of these >> packages. >> What I would really like is people who have webmail running to tell me >> what they feel the pros & cons are with the packages they are using. >> We use IMHO (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~stewa/IMHO/) that works with the open source Roxen (http://www.roxen.com) web server. It is one of the few webmail servers that maintains a persistant connection for each session, making it faster than any other webmail that I have used. It is highly customizable. The webmail server is written in a dynamically compiled language called Pike, so code changes do not require a recompile. It saves a preference file on the IMAP server. We are running it on 4 load balanced Sun Netra T1's. They are very reliable; I rarely have to deal with them. No, it will not work under Apache. The only problem that I have found is a memory leak that causes the Roxen process to grow in size until it consumes almost all system memory. We deal with this by restarting the servers on a time staggered basis. There is also a webmail/web server based on the IMHO/Roxen system called Camas (http://camas.caudium.net) that runs on the Caudium webserver (http://www.caudium.net). I have not tried it, but plan to. Regards, Tom -- Tom Karchesemail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Systems Administrator phone : 919.515.5508 NCSU Information Technology
Re: webmail
Try www.squirrelmail.org It's great! Loads of extra plugin options, based around PHP scripts. It's ded easy to modify to your needs and is 'community' orientated. My reason for picking a webmail was... what do I want my webmail package to do? Do you require spell checking? POP3 access? Filters? Spam filters? Address book? -Steve - Original Message - From: "Steve Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cyrus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: webmail > > Can someone recommend me a good webmail package ? > At somepoint in the near future I will need to setup webmail on our > production servers & after seeing the security squirrelmail offers I think it > will be very hard to make a case for it. > > I know of imp, mulberry & silkymail but have not used any of these packages. > What I would really like is people who have webmail running to tell me what > they feel the pros & cons are with the packages they are using. > > With Thanks, > Steve. > >
Re: webmail
You might have a look at TWIG ( http://twig.screwdriver.net ) We've been using it over two years and it's highly modular and can very easily be extended to add support for quotas, multiple domains and the like. It also supports various DBs, mailservers, authentication mechanisms. For a preview of what the product could look like, go to: http://mail.serverart.com Cheers, David On 02/22/2002 02:12 PM, Steve Wright wrote: > Can someone recommend me a good webmail package ? > At somepoint in the near future I will need to setup webmail on our > production servers & after seeing the security squirrelmail offers I think it > will be very hard to make a case for it. > > I know of imp, mulberry & silkymail but have not used any of these packages. > What I would really like is people who have webmail running to tell me what > they feel the pros & cons are with the packages they are using. > > With Thanks, > Steve. > -- ++ http://www.serverart.com ++ "Everything takes longer than you expect, even when you take ++ into account Hofstadters law." - Hofstadter's Law
Re: webmail
Hi Steve, I just installed silkymail over my cyrus/sendmail Solaris 8 system. I am very impressed with the ease of install (including SSL). It is bundled with its own Apache server. You sort of pull the string and it inflates. ;) It appears extremely robust and my webmaster and I are going to tailor it 'down' for our users. That's a first! Usually you have to wedge things into it for greater functionality. Both IMAP and POP! We also are using Websieve and plan on having web interface for all users to forward/vacation their mail. All the other web mail utilites, like mailing list etc, I am incorporating into the Apache server that was a part of the Silkymail install. Currently we are using on our old system MailMan. It is very limited but stable. Hope that helps! -Kiarna > > Can someone recommend me a good webmail package ? > At somepoint in the near future I will need to setup webmail on our > production servers & after seeing the security squirrelmail offers I think it > will be very hard to make a case for it. > > I know of imp, mulberry & silkymail but have not used any of these packages. > What I would really like is people who have webmail running to tell me what > they feel the pros & cons are with the packages they are using. > > With Thanks, > Steve. >
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
see http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/ and http://www.cru.fr/http-mail/ -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
RE: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
I LOVE YOU ALL!!! I've been working on this problem with IMP/MD5/php 4 for 3 days now to no avail. Sure enough I removed sasldb and boom! It worked. BTW, does anyone know how to get cyradm to use pam to authenticate an admin (when I try to tell it to use pam, it wont let me in). The only way Ive been able to use cyradm was to saslpasswd the administrator user and then auth off of sasl for that user (but obviously I cant do that anymore If I want IMP to work ). Thanks, Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:59 AM To: Robert Scussel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ? Robert Scussel schrieb am Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:51:21PM -0500: * Thanks, first of all for the help getting cyrus working with * saslauthd-pam... * * I have been trying for days now to get the latest IMP(3.0) with the * latest Horde(2.0) to work with cyrus. The problem now is that imp tries * to use the protocol imap to logon, which then tries to logon via * * CRAM-MD5, sasldb2, and even kerberos * * It doesn't appear to try pam/plain/saslauthd login. Most webmailers I saw (e.g. aeromail, twig) did a CAPABILITY upon connect and tried to do the most secure authentication first. So if your server lists CRAM-MD5 in its capability list, the webmailer will try that before trying PLAIN. We debugged this down to the code of imap-2001 which is the library that is mostly used by PHP for IMAP issues. So if you set up a PHP webmailer, you can't help this behaviour because its hardcoded into the lib. We finally did a very nasty workaround: As we use LDAP-via-PAM as authen- tication backend, we do not need the sasldb - and when completely removing /etc/sasldb, Cyrus IMAP stops sending CRAM-MD5 in its capability list. - Birger
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
A trick with SASL if you don't use the /etc/sasldb stuff is to compile with "--with-dblib=none" and it will remove the sasl secrets database code entirely.. We only use Kerberos so we didn't need any of the /etc/sasldb stuff either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Robert Scussel schrieb am Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:51:21PM -0500: > * Thanks, first of all for the help getting cyrus working with > * saslauthd-pam... > * > * I have been trying for days now to get the latest IMP(3.0) with the > * latest Horde(2.0) to work with cyrus. The problem now is that imp tries > * to use the protocol imap to logon, which then tries to logon via > * > * CRAM-MD5, sasldb2, and even kerberos > * > * It doesn't appear to try pam/plain/saslauthd login. > > Most webmailers I saw (e.g. aeromail, twig) did a CAPABILITY upon connect > and tried to do the most secure authentication first. So if your server > lists CRAM-MD5 in its capability list, the webmailer will try that before > trying PLAIN. > > We debugged this down to the code of imap-2001 which is the library that > is mostly used by PHP for IMAP issues. So if you set up a PHP webmailer, > you can't help this behaviour because its hardcoded into the lib. > > We finally did a very nasty workaround: As we use LDAP-via-PAM as authen- > tication backend, we do not need the sasldb - and when completely removing > /etc/sasldb, Cyrus IMAP stops sending CRAM-MD5 in its capability list. > > - Birger
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Robert Scussel schrieb am Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:51:21PM -0500: * Thanks, first of all for the help getting cyrus working with * saslauthd-pam... * * I have been trying for days now to get the latest IMP(3.0) with the * latest Horde(2.0) to work with cyrus. The problem now is that imp tries * to use the protocol imap to logon, which then tries to logon via * * CRAM-MD5, sasldb2, and even kerberos * * It doesn't appear to try pam/plain/saslauthd login. Most webmailers I saw (e.g. aeromail, twig) did a CAPABILITY upon connect and tried to do the most secure authentication first. So if your server lists CRAM-MD5 in its capability list, the webmailer will try that before trying PLAIN. We debugged this down to the code of imap-2001 which is the library that is mostly used by PHP for IMAP issues. So if you set up a PHP webmailer, you can't help this behaviour because its hardcoded into the lib. We finally did a very nasty workaround: As we use LDAP-via-PAM as authen- tication backend, we do not need the sasldb - and when completely removing /etc/sasldb, Cyrus IMAP stops sending CRAM-MD5 in its capability list. - Birger
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Thanks, first of all for the help getting cyrus working with saslauthd-pam... I have been trying for days now to get the latest IMP(3.0) with the latest Horde(2.0) to work with cyrus. The problem now is that imp tries to use the protocol imap to logon, which then tries to logon via CRAM-MD5, sasldb2, and even kerberos It doesn't appear to try pam/plain/saslauthd login. Any ideas would be helpful... Thanks again. B -- -- Robert Scussel 1024D/BAF70959/0036 B19E 86CE 181D 0912 5FCC 92D8 1EA1 BAF7 0959
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Thank You very much for each and every one replied. Now I know what to use!! :) Thanks again. Alex
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:14:23 +0100, > Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (sj) writes: sj> This was a interesting thread, and I was happy to see that at least sj> one suggestion, Jawmail, supported WAP, but it caused my stock RedHat sj> 7.1 Apache/PHP build to crash when I ran "install.php"... So, are sj> there any other IMAP interfaces with WML support? Any experiences? While this thread can at times be exhaustingly familiar, I must admit that I saw some interesting stuff this time around too. I also took a look at this Jawmail. I also thought it was cool that it offered a Sieve interface. -- Amos
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
This was a interesting thread, and I was happy to see that at least one suggestion, Jawmail, supported WAP, but it caused my stock RedHat 7.1 Apache/PHP build to crash when I ran "install.php"... So, are there any other IMAP interfaces with WML support? Any experiences?
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
i am using imp from www.horde.org. it is a good sollution with a very easy web interface (it was tricky to install though - it took time untill i found install guide.) the best of all - it is free. On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Jure Pecar wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:18:34 -0500 > "Alex Kamalov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > > albeit with functionality ? > > > > Try jawmail (jawmail.sf.net), up & running in <5min. > > >
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Alex Kamalov wrote: > > Guys, > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > albeit with functionality ? > I have on my system IMP --- Good very big in code source terms but is designed to do more. Silky mail --- big re vamp of imp nice but doesnt support the IMP personal address books. Both these tend to be slower than the others Squirrel mail --- Nice I like the modules and the spell checker. Jawmail --- There are some annoying bugs becuase it doesnt escape SQL codes. Again nice plugin/module feature. Supports saving email address of people you send to which was a big one for one of my users. Werkmail --- very simple. So far the users have preffered Squirrel mail and jawmail although they are going back to IMP slowly I think (IMP was the orignal and still has many peoples addresses in the address book). -- Simon Loader (unemployed)
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
We use IMP (www.horde.org). It handles the Cyrus naming space pretty well. Jure Pecar wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:18:34 -0500 > "Alex Kamalov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > > albeit with functionality ? > > > > Try jawmail (jawmail.sf.net), up & running in <5min. > > -- > > Jure Pecar
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:18:34 -0500 "Alex Kamalov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > albeit with functionality ? > Try jawmail (jawmail.sf.net), up & running in <5min. -- Jure Pecar
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
> >>Guys, >> >>I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for >>cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, >>albeit with functionality ? >> >>Thanks a lot to everyone. >> We use IMHO (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~stewa/IMHO/) with our Roxen web servers. It requires the open-source Roxen web server to operate. A unique feature with IMHO is that it maintains persistant connections on the IMHO server, significantly speeding up operations. My experience with SquirrelMail was that it was quite slow in comparison, but this was probably about a year ago. IMHO maintains a preferences file as a message in the users' IMAP account and reads it on startup. Framed and non-framed interfaces are user-selectable. The "back" button works! It was also relatively easy to modify for our purposes, as the IMHO module is written in an interpreted language called Pike. There is also a variation of IMHO and Roxen that was brought about by a fork in the code base for both products. The new webmail program is called Camas and the web server is called Caudium. I din't have the URLs handy, but a Google search should fix that. Regards, Tom -- Tom Karchesemail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Systems Administrator phone : 919.515.5508 NCSU Information Technology
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
> Guys, > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > albeit with functionality ? > > Thanks a lot to everyone. > > Alex > > http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ Here's just some of what the O'Reilly book Managing IMAP had to say about SilkyMail: (Great book! Why don't you have it yet??? ;-) ) "It has every feature in the book, including the most complete set of IMAP capabilities in any webmail client...as far as we're concerned, SilkyMail was the most visually pleasing client out-of-the-box...SilkyMail is different from all the other clients we evaluated. It's more like a complete IMAP client that runs within a web browser." Enough said. Just do the merge Apache install if you have a good Apache set up already. (The complete install/configure with their version of Apache can be troublesome) Don't forget mod_php. Craig Skinner -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Try Squirrelmail (http://www.squirrelmail.org ) Extremely eazy to setup and yes, it do support subfolders. Mihai - Original Message - From: "Alex Kamalov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:18 AM Subject: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ? > Guys, > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > albeit with functionality ? > > Thanks a lot to everyone. > > Alex > >
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Does it support sub folders? The current stable version (2.2.6) of IMP (http://www.horde.org/imp/) does not support folder trees but the beta one (2.2.7) does. If you interested on setting up IMP I have a doc on my site. Haim http://dudle.linuxroot.org Joe Stump wrote: > > Squirrel Mail worked great for me. > > --Joe > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:18:34PM -0500, Alex Kamalov wrote: > > Guys, > > > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > > albeit with functionality ? > > > > Thanks a lot to everyone. > > > > Alex > > Joe Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "How would this sentence be different if pi equaled 3?" > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: Webmail for Cyrus Imap ?
Squirrel Mail worked great for me. --Joe On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:18:34PM -0500, Alex Kamalov wrote: > Guys, > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me a preferred webmail interface for > cyrus-imap ? Which one should I use that could be relatively painless, > albeit with functionality ? > > Thanks a lot to everyone. > > Alex Joe Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "How would this sentence be different if pi equaled 3?" msg05123/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: Webmail Client)
Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Our products Mulberry and SilkyMail are pretty much the only shipping > clients that use IMSP. The old Simeon/ExecMail client used IMSP too, but > that is no longer being supported. The SilkyMail IMSP support is provided > as a PHP module. This is currently not available as part of the base PHP4 > distribution, but you can grab it from the SilkyMail source distribution > which is free. > <...> > > In an ideal world, ACAP, the successor protocol to IMSP, would be > available, and that would deal with these types of issues. However, the > ACAP effort is all but dead, leaving IMSP as the only viable remote address > book and preferences protocol in use. > Thanks for clarifying that, Cyrus. What about LDAP--is there any reason that LDAP cannot be used for address-book synchronization? The only other address synchronization client I'm aware of is Windows Address Book (wab.exe) which can sync with the HotMail address book. However I'm not aware of a published standard that this uses--it's probably proprietary. If there are no real options for standards that support address book sync I guess we'll have to write our own for our webmail site :-(
Re: Webmail Client & Question for Windows Client
Evil Azrael wrote: > But knows anybody a good client for Windows? Outlook is too unsecure > for my taste, netscape lacks a lot of features i would like too see > and my favorite "The Bat!" doesn´t seem to be an IMAP client at all. > somehow it looks that´s just a POP3 client that can also fetch mails > from IMAP server, but doesn´t really take advantage of their > abilities, or am I wrong? > Outlook Express v6 is pretty good. There are various options now to turn off JavaScript et al, and it's protocol support is OK (supports off-line use, supports SSL, supports S-MIME). It's not particularly well-behaved though, in that it opens a new connection for every folder that it synchronizes :-( Some people report good things about Mulberry, although I find it poor in the usability stakes. Mozilla has a good IMAP client that works well under all platforms that Mozilla supports, including Windows.
IMSP and address synchronization support (was Re: Webmail Client)
Michel Jouvin wrote: > In particular, Silkymail has support for IMSP preferences and adress > books, A very interesting feature if you want user being able to share > address books between Webmail and other mail clients. > What clients support IMSP? Is this support synchronization/off-line access (like good IMAP clients), or on-line access only, or import/export only? I'm looking to add something to our webmail site that synchronizes the Windows Address Book and other common mail client address books with our server address book. I can't find anything that supports this--the obvious choice would appear to be to use LDAP on the server, but I can't find any clients that support synchronization of LDAP with local address books.
Re: Webmail Client
Evil Azrael wrote: >Guten Tag Richard Hopkins, >RH> SilkyMail from Cyrusoft > >RH> http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ > >RH> is well worth a look. > >Not really... somehow it feels like horde/imp and the url of the >program where you are being redirected has imp in it´s path part. > >Christoph Nelles > > Christoph, Do you have any problems with silkymail besides that it "feels like IMP?" I'm using IMP now, and while its not my preferred mail client, I like it better than squirrelmail. Sure, the install sucked, but once it was done I was pretty happy with it, and so are my users. I'm not using any database with it - just the basic webmail functionality. After looking at silkymail I was considering switching. It looks like silkymail has all the features IMP has and maybe more, I think the interface looks nicer and is more intuitive... what negative experience did you have with silkymail?
Re: Webmail Client
In particular, Silkymail has support for IMSP preferences and adress books, A very interesting feature if you want user being able to share address books between Webmail and other mail clients. Michel On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:06:58 +0100 Richard Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SilkyMail from Cyrusoft > > http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ > > is well worth a look. > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:38:01 -0300 Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey guys > > > > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > > > Rehuel > > Richard Hopkins, > Information Services, > Computer Centre, > University of Bristol, > Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK > > Tel +44 117 928 7859 > Fax +44 117 929 1576 > > RFC-822: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * * Michel Jouvin Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * LAL / CNRSFax : +33 1 69079404* * B.P. 34 * * 91898 Orsay Cedex * * France* *
Re: Webmail Client
Thus spake Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? I would second the recommendation for SquirrelMail. The user community is also very helpful. -- | Justin R. Miller / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 0xC9C40C31 | Of all the things I've lost, I miss my pants the most. -- PGP signature
Re: Webmail Client
You may check out IMP (www.horde.org) or Squirrel Mail. (www.squirrelmail.org) THere are many more but the choice depends on your requirements. Regards, Oyku Gencay - Original Message - From: Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: Webmail Client Hey guys Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? Rehuel
Re: Webmail Client & Question for Windows Client
Just have a look at this webmail compare matrix : http://members.ferrara.linux.it/gmeneghetti/webmailcompare/ Bye Evil Azrael wrote: > Guten Tag Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita, > > i have recently checked some webmail clients. my special requirement > was that the client must not need mysql (i hate mysql; PostgreSQL > rulez !). > You can find the following at freshmeat.net : > > SquirrelMail > The one i will go to use. It´s special feature is that it support > plugins und you find a lot of them at its website. It does not need a > DB. > > Horde > It was a pain to configure and the current stable release lacks a lot > of features while i wasn´t able to run the development release :(. > will recheck it then the new release will be ready. Runs best with a > DB. > > AeroMail > Very simple. Both in installation and features. > > Nocc > The same, but made a much better impression. > > Postamt & Werkmail > Got deleted immediately. can´t remember why. > > Twig > Isn´t just a Webmail program. it´s a whole multi-user environment > including schedules and many other things. too heavy for my needs. > > That are the ones i checked. you should probably check them and others > for yourself to really find what you need. If anyone can recommend any > other, i will happily test it, too. > > But knows anybody a good client for Windows? Outlook is too unsecure > for my taste, netscape lacks a lot of features i would like too see > and my favorite "The Bat!" doesn´t seem to be an IMAP client at all. > somehow it looks that´s just a POP3 client that can also fetch mails > from IMAP server, but doesn´t really take advantage of their > abilities, or am I wrong? > > Christoph Nelles > > Am Freitag, 14. September 2001 um 13:38 schrieben Sie: > > RLdM> Hey guys > > RLdM> Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > RLdM> Rehuel > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > Evil Azrael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jean-Christophe Kermagoret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail Client
SilkyMail from Cyrusoft http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail/ is well worth a look. On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:38:01 -0300 Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys > > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > Rehuel Richard Hopkins, Information Services, Computer Centre, University of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK Tel +44 117 928 7859 Fax +44 117 929 1576 RFC-822: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail Client & Question for Windows Client
Guten Tag Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita, i have recently checked some webmail clients. my special requirement was that the client must not need mysql (i hate mysql; PostgreSQL rulez !). You can find the following at freshmeat.net : SquirrelMail The one i will go to use. It´s special feature is that it support plugins und you find a lot of them at its website. It does not need a DB. Horde It was a pain to configure and the current stable release lacks a lot of features while i wasn´t able to run the development release :(. will recheck it then the new release will be ready. Runs best with a DB. AeroMail Very simple. Both in installation and features. Nocc The same, but made a much better impression. Postamt & Werkmail Got deleted immediately. can´t remember why. Twig Isn´t just a Webmail program. it´s a whole multi-user environment including schedules and many other things. too heavy for my needs. That are the ones i checked. you should probably check them and others for yourself to really find what you need. If anyone can recommend any other, i will happily test it, too. But knows anybody a good client for Windows? Outlook is too unsecure for my taste, netscape lacks a lot of features i would like too see and my favorite "The Bat!" doesn´t seem to be an IMAP client at all. somehow it looks that´s just a POP3 client that can also fetch mails from IMAP server, but doesn´t really take advantage of their abilities, or am I wrong? Christoph Nelles Am Freitag, 14. September 2001 um 13:38 schrieben Sie: RLdM> Hey guys RLdM> Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? RLdM> Rehuel -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Evil Azraelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail Client
check out squirrelmail, http://www.squirrelmail.org/. it's gnu, written in php4 and fast. > Rehuel Lobato de Mesquita wrote: > > Hey guys > > Can anyone recommend an open source "yahoo/hotmail-like" mail client? > > Rehuel -- Darin Perusich Unix Systems Administrator Cognigen Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebMail
IMP is very widely used and very good indeed. However, at times may be somewhat tricky to make it work. You may also try squirrelmail ( www.squirrelmail.org), it's a breeze to install and quite good (and showing some growth potential). Mihai Amariutei - Original Message - From: "Peter Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:55 PM Subject: WebMail > Okay I finally got Cyrus Imap up and working and am looking at adding > WebMail. I know that I have a couple of options, but I am looking for > some recommmendations on which is the best. I already have Apache > installed along with php 4.0.3 and I am lookin for something that is > able to authenticate via the sasldb instead of a mySQL etc. approach? > Any feedback very helpful. Thanks. > >
Re: WebMail
I agree, IMP from horde DO THE JOB. it is very easy to install, and they have there a good HOWTO. we added ssl to the apache, and it works fine. you can also set up any authontication that you want very easy. ronen amity At 19:46 01/10/2001 -0400, Patrick Boutilier wrote: >Peter, > >IMP is what we use (http://www.horde.org). As for authentication IMP >authenticates against the IMAP server. It is up to the IMAP server what >kind of authentication it does. > >Peter Erickson wrote: > >> Okay I finally got Cyrus Imap up and working and am looking at adding >> WebMail. I know that I have a couple of options, but I am looking for >> some recommmendations on which is the best. I already have Apache >> installed along with php 4.0.3 and I am lookin for something that is >> able to authenticate via the sasldb instead of a mySQL etc. approach? >> Any feedback very helpful. Thanks. >
Re: WebMail
Peter, IMP is what we use (http://www.horde.org). As for authentication IMP authenticates against the IMAP server. It is up to the IMAP server what kind of authentication it does. Peter Erickson wrote: > Okay I finally got Cyrus Imap up and working and am looking at adding > WebMail. I know that I have a couple of options, but I am looking for > some recommmendations on which is the best. I already have Apache > installed along with php 4.0.3 and I am lookin for something that is > able to authenticate via the sasldb instead of a mySQL etc. approach? > Any feedback very helpful. Thanks.
