Re: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
I would rather see some type of set up where we could get discounted
laptop purchases available to students (not just the typical student/
educator discount--but a larger one based on large purchasing)
partnered with some type of financing deal with local banks. I read
about something like this a few years ago in some educational
magazine--happened at a very large metro school. It was more of a
community partnership to make computers/laptops more affordable. In
theory that would possibly put some in the hands of more students and
it would not be affiliated with the school. In actuality it would be
no different than all the requests that hit me (and I'm sure all of
you) with home computers from staff (and students)--I cannot imagine
the repair issue/time demand that would exist to keep this
operational as well. (And yes, when I get those calls I think Did
you call the food service director to plan your supper tonight?
Alas, I smile and assist as best I can.) Without proper staff
development and a willingness to change teaching (or to see that the
1:1 is a better tool--which it may or may not be) kind of seems like
a waste of money. For those who do use it--are the computers under
school AUP for the entire time students use them (at home as well)--
and are they typically turned in after 4 years of HS or can students
buy them, or ?
I do see the need to think about the future and technology in the
school. As we look at the affordable handheld type stuff that can
surf the web, word process, etc.--it's hard for me to believe my
children will work in an environment of the traditional computer lab
setting when they reach HS. I think more realistically I'll be
dealing with students wanting to bring in their laptops or phones or
handhelds or ? and use those versus the school computers and then
transferring back and forth with flash drives, etc. I can think of a
few HS students who do that already; I can only think that number
will increase. But this is an entirely different subject.
On Feb 11, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Diane Elbert wrote:
The schools I have visited with who use mobile labs say the repair
is constant and never ending ; not to mention power and battery
life is a huge issue. Faculty acceptance and implementation is a
additional hurdle even with training.
Also, this is totally outside of our budget; however, for us it is
a very likely we could find a donor to underwrite the cost of
purchase. Here-in lies the dilemma – we would have to show that it
was 100% operational at all times by teachers and students. It
would not sit well with the donor if it was wasteful and the money
could have been used more effectively elsewhere.
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Diane Elbert
1224 N. McCoy St
Algona, IA 50511
515-295-3521 W
515-884-2637 H
515-320-2431 C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.garrigan.unlimitedweb.net
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:info-tech-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JON HUESER
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:59 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
Has anyone looked at how the kids take care of the textbooks they
have? Of course I am sure they would take care of a school
owned laptop much better.
BTW: if they do damage it, how many parents can afford to repair
or replace the laptop (like we do with books), also if a free or
reduced kid breaks it do they have to fix it or do we charge enough
for the other students to makeup that cost.
I have enough issues with my teachers and laptops let alone the
kids, but if you have a district where the kids take excellent care
of their books and other school materials, please go for it.
Thanks!
Jon W. Hueser- MSE, Ed. S
MS/HS Principal
Technology Director
East Greene CSD
405 12th Street South
Grand Junction, IA 50107
515-738-2411 x241
Fax: 515-738-5719
From: Keith Stoeber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:53 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
We have not done a one to one, but have chosen to use the portable
lab solution. We have six labs available for use and it seems to
work. The biggest issue we face is repair the machines. As like
Murray I work mostly with the network and have a part time aid to
help. I think anyone looking at a one-to-one needs to have the
proper staff to handle the repair and daily issues that will arise.
Just my two cents.
Keith Stoeber
Sioux Central CSD
4440 US Highway 71
Sioux Rapids, IA 50585
(P) 712-283-2571 x 5900
(F) 712-283-2285
From: Murray Gafkjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:23 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement
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[info-tech] usb microscopes?
Hi, Anyone have these or other models they think work good for science dept.'s? http://www.proscopehr.com/index.html http://www.califone.com/products/cm1-usb.php - Tim Buenz Director of Technology Jefferson-Scranton Comm. Schools 204 W. Madison Street Jefferson, IA 50129 (515)386-9256 Fax (515)386-3591 http://www.jscsd.org Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future -John F. Kennedy
RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
We have not done a one to one, but have chosen to use the portable lab solution. We have six labs available for use and it seems to work. The biggest issue we face is repair the machines. As like Murray I work mostly with the network and have a part time aid to help. I think anyone looking at a one-to-one needs to have the proper staff to handle the repair and daily issues that will arise. Just my two cents. Keith Stoeber Sioux Central CSD 4440 US Highway 71 Sioux Rapids, IA 50585 (P) 712-283-2571 x 5900 (F) 712-283-2285 From: Murray Gafkjen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:23 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement Some of the hoops, Do the teachers want this? It's like buying a dress for your wife and she's not with you. We have about 1/3 of our books on the tablets, but most of the teachers are still using the books. Some of the ebooks use an earlier version of Acrobat, which causes problems when we standardized with version 8. (These publishers -vendors- insist that we use a CD in every machine. Some vendors will push an web-base textbook, but if the student lacks connections at home, then there's another problem. Price- it's really not cheaper than books, I don't have the numbers at hand. Currently software is still off the Silo tax list. When I shared direction of the 1:1 with the listserv, one of the questions was, are you going to buy them a car as well? Looking back, the car idea would have been better. We have 170 students with laptops, plus the staff. Teaching Special Education full-time, I try to focus on Network issues, we have a tech(paid at the level of an aide) that deal only with the desktop and repair. Yes, this will be quite an undertaking. I'm sure I have more, but Monday morning beckons, Murray Gafkjen Clay Central Everly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richardson,Tony Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:12 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement Hello all, It has been suggested to me in a meeting that we replace our paper text books at the High School with notebook computers. It sounds insane to me to give 400 high school kids a notebook computer not to mention the design and implementation of such a thing with only 1 tech person. The district is also going through bad financial times and probably would not hire any more full time help to support this. Is any other district out there doing this? If so what is your experiences with this? Thanks, Tony Richardson, Technology Coordinator Humboldt Community School District [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
The schools I have visited with who use mobile labs say the repair is
constant and never ending ; not to mention power and battery life is a huge
issue. Faculty acceptance and implementation is a additional hurdle even
with training.
Also, this is totally outside of our budget; however, for us it is a very
likely we could find a donor to underwrite the cost of purchase. Here-in
lies the dilemma - we would have to show that it was 100% operational at all
times by teachers and students. It would not sit well with the donor if it
was wasteful and the money could have been used more effectively elsewhere.
Signature DE
Diane Elbert
1224 N. McCoy St
Algona, IA 50511
515-295-3521 W
515-884-2637 H
515-320-2431 C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.garrigan.unlimitedweb.net/
http://www.garrigan.unlimitedweb.net
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JON HUESER
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:59 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
Has anyone looked at how the kids take care of the textbooks they have?
Of course I am sure they would take care of a school owned laptop much
better.
BTW: if they do damage it, how many parents can afford to repair or replace
the laptop (like we do with books), also if a free or reduced kid breaks it
do they have to fix it or do we charge enough for the other students to
makeup that cost.
I have enough issues with my teachers and laptops let alone the kids, but if
you have a district where the kids take excellent care of their books and
other school materials, please go for it.
Thanks!
Jon W. Hueser- MSE, Ed. S
MS/HS Principal
Technology Director
East Greene CSD
405 12th Street South
Grand Junction, IA 50107
515-738-2411 x241
Fax: 515-738-5719
_
From: Keith Stoeber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:53 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
We have not done a one to one, but have chosen to use the portable lab
solution. We have six labs available for use and it seems to work. The
biggest issue we face is repair the machines. As like Murray I work mostly
with the network and have a part time aid to help. I think anyone looking
at a one-to-one needs to have the proper staff to handle the repair and
daily issues that will arise.
Just my two cents.
Keith Stoeber
Sioux Central CSD
4440 US Highway 71
Sioux Rapids, IA 50585
(P) 712-283-2571 x 5900
(F) 712-283-2285
_
From: Murray Gafkjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:23 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement
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Some of the hoops,
Do the teachers want this? It's like buying a dress for your wife and she's
not with you. We have about 1/3 of our books on the tablets, but most of the
teachers are still using the books. Some of the ebooks use an earlier
version of Acrobat, which causes problems when we standardized with version
8. (These publishers -vendors- insist that we use a CD in every machine.
Some vendors will push an web-base textbook, but if the student lacks
connections at home, then there's another problem.
Price- it's really not cheaper than books, I don't have the numbers at hand.
Currently software is still off the Silo tax list.
When I shared direction of the 1:1 with the listserv, one of the questions
was, are you going to buy them a car as well? Looking back, the car idea
would have been better.
We have 170 students with laptops, plus the staff. Teaching Special
Education full-time, I try to focus on Network issues, we have a tech(paid
at the level of an aide) that deal only with the desktop and repair. Yes,
this will be quite an undertaking.
I'm sure I have more, but Monday morning beckons,
Murray Gafkjen
Clay Central Everly
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richardson,Tony
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:12 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement
Hello all,
It has been suggested to me in a meeting that we replace our paper text
books at the High School with notebook computers. It sounds insane to me to
give 400 high school kids a
RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement
Has anyone looked at how the kids take care of the textbooks they have? Of course I am sure they would take care of a school owned laptop much better. BTW: if they do damage it, how many parents can afford to repair or replace the laptop (like we do with books), also if a free or reduced kid breaks it do they have to fix it or do we charge enough for the other students to makeup that cost. I have enough issues with my teachers and laptops let alone the kids, but if you have a district where the kids take excellent care of their books and other school materials, please go for it. Thanks! Jon W. Hueser- MSE, Ed. S MS/HS Principal Technology Director East Greene CSD 405 12th Street South Grand Junction, IA 50107 515-738-2411 x241 Fax: 515-738-5719 From: Keith Stoeber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:53 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text BooK Replacement We have not done a one to one, but have chosen to use the portable lab solution. We have six labs available for use and it seems to work. The biggest issue we face is repair the machines. As like Murray I work mostly with the network and have a part time aid to help. I think anyone looking at a one-to-one needs to have the proper staff to handle the repair and daily issues that will arise. Just my two cents. Keith Stoeber Sioux Central CSD 4440 US Highway 71 Sioux Rapids, IA 50585 (P) 712-283-2571 x 5900 (F) 712-283-2285 From: Murray Gafkjen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:23 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement Some of the hoops, Do the teachers want this? It's like buying a dress for your wife and she's not with you. We have about 1/3 of our books on the tablets, but most of the teachers are still using the books. Some of the ebooks use an earlier version of Acrobat, which causes problems when we standardized with version 8. (These publishers -vendors- insist that we use a CD in every machine. Some vendors will push an web-base textbook, but if the student lacks connections at home, then there's another problem. Price- it's really not cheaper than books, I don't have the numbers at hand. Currently software is still off the Silo tax list. When I shared direction of the 1:1 with the listserv, one of the questions was, are you going to buy them a car as well? Looking back, the car idea would have been better. We have 170 students with laptops, plus the staff. Teaching Special Education full-time, I try to focus on Network issues, we have a tech(paid at the level of an aide) that deal only with the desktop and repair. Yes, this will be quite an undertaking. I'm sure I have more, but Monday morning beckons, Murray Gafkjen Clay Central Everly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richardson,Tony Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:12 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement Hello all, It has been suggested to me in a meeting that we replace our paper text books at the High School with notebook computers. It sounds insane to me to give 400 high school kids a notebook computer not to mention the design and implementation of such a thing with only 1 tech person. The district is also going through bad financial times and probably would not hire any more full time help to support this. Is any other district out there doing this? If so what is your experiences with this? Thanks, Tony Richardson, Technology Coordinator Humboldt Community School District [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement
Here are some resources to read: http://www.neirtec.org/laptop/ http://www.techlearning.com/1to1guide/index.php http://lgfpms.classdrive.net/29499 - Tim Buenz Director of Technology Jefferson-Scranton Comm. Schools 204 W. Madison Street Jefferson, IA 50129 (515)386-9256 Fax (515)386-3591 http://www.jscsd.org Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future -John F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray Gafkjen Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:13 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement Sarah is right, this issue(1:1) will not go away, and it's easy to make a mess of it. I've experienced a bit of a gag order when in I'm discussing this in the school district. Perhaps the collective can help brainstorm in the days to come and a part of the tech meeting could be used as well. I wish I could have half of Keith's two cents, Murray Gafkjen CCE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Freking Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:27 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: Re: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement I'd be very interested in how everyone weighs in on this. We're working very hard to figure out how to make technology available to everyone in our District and 1:1 laptops is one of the topics we've brainstormed as a solution. I have lists of both positives and negatives but would very much like to hear other's experiences or thoughts on the topic. Sarah Sarah M. Freking, District Technology Director Storm Lake Community School District Storm Lake, IA 50588 Phone: 712-732-8100 Fax: 712-732-8101 Learning is what most adults will do for a living in the 21st century. - Sydney Joseph Perelman --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ -
RE: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement
Sarah is right, this issue(1:1) will not go away, and it's easy to make a mess of it. I've experienced a bit of a gag order when in I'm discussing this in the school district. Perhaps the collective can help brainstorm in the days to come and a part of the tech meeting could be used as well. I wish I could have half of Keith's two cents, Murray Gafkjen CCE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Freking Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:27 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: Re: [info-tech] Text Boox Replacement I'd be very interested in how everyone weighs in on this. We're working very hard to figure out how to make technology available to everyone in our District and 1:1 laptops is one of the topics we've brainstormed as a solution. I have lists of both positives and negatives but would very much like to hear other's experiences or thoughts on the topic. Sarah Sarah M. Freking, District Technology Director Storm Lake Community School District Storm Lake, IA 50588 Phone: 712-732-8100 Fax: 712-732-8101 Learning is what most adults will do for a living in the 21st century. - Sydney Joseph Perelman --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ -
RE: [info-tech] United/Discover Education Streaming Update
I too would be interested in finding out what is involved in setting up an inhouse United/DE server. What are the costs and requirements for server horsepower. Thanks, Tony Richardson, Technology Coordinator Humboldt Community School District [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott Fosseen Sent: Sun 2/10/2008 11:53 PM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] United/Discover Education Streaming Update It would probably be best to talk a little about how to implement a streaming server for the district. I may recommend that you install a server in each HS/MS due to the limited bandwidth between buildings (Unless that is now not an issue). If you have fiber between North HS and North MS then you can use 1 server for both facilities. Did you find any manuals or info on the Video Conferencing system? If you want I can see if I can get some more info on that. Are you using the archive portion of Lightspeed? What functions are you using with the product for the district. Pella schools I have heard is using Moodle quite a bit. I will have to track down a contact name for you if you want it. -- Original Message -- From: Henn, Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:21:49 -0600 Scott: I have a few things. 1. I would like to look into having the inhouse United/DE server. 2. The polycom unit that I talked to you about earlier came from IPTV about 6 years ago when that school was part of some reading initiative 3. We have just implemented LIghtspeed and replaced Symantec district wide (4000+ systems) our guy would be willing to field questions from people about implementation. 4. Where can I witness Moodle being used effectively? Thanks, Layne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:32 PM To: Info-Tech Subject: [info-tech] United/Discover Education Streaming Update Just an FYI We now have a LocalHost server for United/Discovery Education Streaming content. All districts in Prairie Lakes, and Northwest AEA will now pull their video content from our server in Fort Dodge. This change is transparent to your users. For school districts using ICN as their Internet Service Provider should see faster load times. For districts that have other Internet Service Providers you may also see faster video response times depending on their distance to the ICN. Also two districts have setup in-house LocalHost servers. Comments from one district have included Videos play immediately, no waiting for Buffering to complete. If you have a lot of United/Discovery streaming traffic in your building you may want to consider Installing your own internal LocalHost equipment. There is a 1 time $600 setup fee, plus a web server at your site with 2-4 Tb of storage on a single drive. I believe there are NAS solutions for $1000-$1500 that will give you the required storage space. If you have any questions please feel free to ask _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Your are asked to notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency. Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. - _ Scott Fosseen - Systems Engineer - Prairie Lakes AEA - http://www.aea8.k12.ia.us/tech _ The bottom line is there have been a lot of nuts elected to the United States Senate. - Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) _ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us]
