Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

A bit more checking and I think I may get the height for the Super KAZ, even if 
the bottom of it is 7-8 feet off the ground and KAZ said I could use a ratio of 
1:5 rather than 1:4. Has anyone used a Super KAZ on the Pacific Coast? I have a 
straight shot less than a mile from the Pacific Ocean here and the EWE's work 
well. If the Super KAZ will out perform my EWE, that will be amazing as that 
EWE has been jewel for me. But again, it will be a while as it has been wet 
nearly every day for weeks and the next week or more continues to be stormy and 
wet. It has been a VERY wet Winter. We have broken all sorts of records on 
rainfall, both here and even in Portland. A few weeks ago we did have 2-3 days 
that were fairly dry. 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: charle...@msn.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:33:31 +
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> 
> Try a Flag, Pennant or Delta (Kaz), preferably the latter.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 
> 
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:56 AM
> To: IRCA
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> Both John Bryant and I felt that the EWE had coastal properties. They work 
> well for me, but I am not against trying something new. After all I have a 
> stretch that runs about 100- 125 feet running East/West. I did try out a K9AY 
> some years ago that did well but had low gain. I logged two new lp Filipinos 
> I had never logged before or since. The wet soil here, being a mile from the 
> Pacific is briny.  It is supposed to be fresh water, but there is still a 
> salt taste to it. I always figured it got some of the salt from the ocean. 
> Any suggestions on what I might put up instead of a EWE?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
> 
> > From: charle...@msn.com
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:59:19 +
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Patrick:
> >
> > You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
> > your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a 
> > bit of flexibility.
> > I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
> > EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a 
> > bit of change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
> > Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, 
> > but that's a different story.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
> > To: IRCA
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Chuck and Colin,
> >
> > So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
> > designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
> > K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna?  Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to 
> > use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our 
> > soil is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances 
> > the TP reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used 
> > to discuss that, as in OK it never made any difference.
> >   My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) 
> > that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for 
> > termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> > > From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> > > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> > >
> > > Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have 
> > > been using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly 
> > > to the termination -
> > > I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> > > rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> > > from my Vactrol supply.
> > >
> > > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Colin,
> > > >
> > > > As you know I am going to be usin

Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

I have looked at possible antennas in the 100-120 feet patch of land and maybe 
a tree close to the center, so I think I will go after a Super KAZ, shown as 
112 feet in length. I am not sure of the exact dimensions, but it should be 
reasonably close. the EWE is quite forgiving, so I presume the KAZ should be 
too. It will be interesting to compare the Super KAZ with the EWE when I get 
done as both are near the same size, except the KAZ uses more wire with that 
leg on the ground. I may have to modify the legs coming down a bit to keep 
people from running into them. Now to get some dry weather too.

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: charle...@msn.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:33:31 +
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> 
> Try a Flag, Pennant or Delta (Kaz), preferably the latter.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 
> 
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:56 AM
> To: IRCA
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> Both John Bryant and I felt that the EWE had coastal properties. They work 
> well for me, but I am not against trying something new. After all I have a 
> stretch that runs about 100- 125 feet running East/West. I did try out a K9AY 
> some years ago that did well but had low gain. I logged two new lp Filipinos 
> I had never logged before or since. The wet soil here, being a mile from the 
> Pacific is briny.  It is supposed to be fresh water, but there is still a 
> salt taste to it. I always figured it got some of the salt from the ocean. 
> Any suggestions on what I might put up instead of a EWE?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
> 
> > From: charle...@msn.com
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:59:19 +
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Patrick:
> >
> > You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
> > your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a 
> > bit of flexibility.
> > I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
> > EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a 
> > bit of change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
> > Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, 
> > but that's a different story.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
> > To: IRCA
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Chuck and Colin,
> >
> > So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
> > designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
> > K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna?  Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to 
> > use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our 
> > soil is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances 
> > the TP reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used 
> > to discuss that, as in OK it never made any difference.
> >   My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) 
> > that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for 
> > termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> > > From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> > > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> > >
> > > Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have 
> > > been using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly 
> > > to the termination -
> > > I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> > > rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> > > from my Vactrol supply.
> > >
> > > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Colin,
> > > >
> > > > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > > > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 

Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Chuck Hutton]

Try a Flag, Pennant or Delta (Kaz), preferably the latter.

Chuck

From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 

Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:56 AM
To: IRCA
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

Chuck,

Both John Bryant and I felt that the EWE had coastal properties. They work well 
for me, but I am not against trying something new. After all I have a stretch 
that runs about 100- 125 feet running East/West. I did try out a K9AY some 
years ago that did well but had low gain. I logged two new lp Filipinos I had 
never logged before or since. The wet soil here, being a mile from the Pacific 
is briny.  It is supposed to be fresh water, but there is still a salt taste to 
it. I always figured it got some of the salt from the ocean. Any suggestions on 
what I might put up instead of a EWE?

Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: charle...@msn.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:59:19 +
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Patrick:
>
> You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
> your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
> of flexibility.
> I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
> EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit 
> of change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
> Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, 
> but that's a different story.
>
> Chuck
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
> To: IRCA
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Chuck and Colin,
>
> So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
> designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
> K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna?  Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to 
> use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our 
> soil is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances 
> the TP reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to 
> discuss that, as in OK it never made any difference.
>   My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) 
> that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for 
> termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.
>
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
> > From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> > using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> > termination -
> > I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> > rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> > from my Vactrol supply.
> >
> > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> >
> > > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > >
> > > Colin,
> > >
> > > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is 
> > > so wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 
> > > 20X115X20 in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > >   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run 
> > > a cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter 
> > > often the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle 
> > > raising field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and 
> > > follow the end down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could 
> > > avoid running wire through the lake out there in the Winter, also the 
> > > cows could not step on it.  But would the extra power cable running next 
> > > to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > >  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > > fencing and all.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > Patrick Martin

Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

Mark,

I could see how that might work using twin wires on a EWE, but I may as well 
try something different, especially if Chuck feels it may improve my reception. 
The 35 years I have had the SW EWE, I have logged a lot fantastic DX, from 100 
watt Australians, 60 watt Japanese Lighthouse stations, India, Bangladesh, 
Nepal, and so on. But hey, if there is a better antenna I can use on the coast, 
why not?

Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

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From: irca@hard-core-dx.com
CC: markwa1...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:33:49 +

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Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:33:45 -0500
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

 
Steve Byan's original version Vactrol circuit used for Beverages can be adapted 
for Ewes.
 
 
http://www.w0btu.com/Remote_Beverage_termination_control.html
 
 
The trick is that the Ewe element would need to be redone with a two-conductor 
wire such as lamp cord, twisted pair, or speaker wire.
 
 
Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA
 
 
<<
Patrick:
 
 
You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
of flexibility.
I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit of 
change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, but 
that's a different story.
 
 
Chuck
 
 

From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
To: IRCA
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
 
 
Chuck and Colin,
 
 
So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna? Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to use? 
I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil is 
swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP 
reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss 
that, as in OK it never made any difference.
My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) that 
runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for termination. I 
peak the pot for a null and leave it.
 
 
 
 
Patrick
 
 
Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager
 
 
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> termination -
> I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> from my Vactrol supply.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so 
> > wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 
> > in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> > cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often 
> > the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising 
> > field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end 
> > down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire 
> > through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on 
> > it. But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the 
> > operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > the termination of the SW is no

Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

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From: irca@hard-core-dx.com
CC: markwa1...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:33:49 +

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Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:33:45 -0500
From: markwa1...@aol.com
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

 
Steve Byan's original version Vactrol circuit used for Beverages can be adapted 
for Ewes.
 
 
http://www.w0btu.com/Remote_Beverage_termination_control.html
 
 
The trick is that the Ewe element would need to be redone with a two-conductor 
wire such as lamp cord, twisted pair, or speaker wire.
 
 
Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA
 
 
<<
Patrick:
 
 
You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
of flexibility.
I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit of 
change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, but 
that's a different story.
 
 
Chuck
 
 

From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
To: IRCA
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
 
 
Chuck and Colin,
 
 
So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna? Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to use? 
I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil is 
swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP 
reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss 
that, as in OK it never made any difference.
My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) that 
runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for termination. I 
peak the pot for a null and leave it.
 
 
 
 
Patrick
 
 
Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager
 
 
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> termination -
> I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> from my Vactrol supply.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so 
> > wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 
> > in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> > cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often 
> > the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising 
> > field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end 
> > down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire 
> > through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on 
> > it. But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the 
> > operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > fencing and all.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> >> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >>
>

Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

Chuck,

Both John Bryant and I felt that the EWE had coastal properties. They work well 
for me, but I am not against trying something new. After all I have a stretch 
that runs about 100- 125 feet running East/West. I did try out a K9AY some 
years ago that did well but had low gain. I logged two new lp Filipinos I had 
never logged before or since. The wet soil here, being a mile from the Pacific 
is briny.  It is supposed to be fresh water, but there is still a salt taste to 
it. I always figured it got some of the salt from the ocean. Any suggestions on 
what I might put up instead of a EWE?   

Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: charle...@msn.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:59:19 +
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> Patrick:
> 
> You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
> your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
> of flexibility.
> I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
> EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit 
> of change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
> Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, 
> but that's a different story.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
> To: IRCA
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> Chuck and Colin,
> 
> So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
> designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
> K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna?  Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to 
> use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our 
> soil is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances 
> the TP reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to 
> discuss that, as in OK it never made any difference.
>   My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) 
> that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for 
> termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
> 
> > From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> > using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> > termination -
> > I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> > rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> > from my Vactrol supply.
> >
> > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> >
> > > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > >
> > > Colin,
> > >
> > > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is 
> > > so wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 
> > > 20X115X20 in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > >   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run 
> > > a cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter 
> > > often the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle 
> > > raising field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and 
> > > follow the end down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could 
> > > avoid running wire through the lake out there in the Winter, also the 
> > > cows could not step on it.  But would the extra power cable running next 
> > > to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > >  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > > fencing and all.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > Patrick Martin
> > > Seaside OR
> > > KGED QSL Manager
> > >
> > >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> > >> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> > >> To:

Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Chuck Hutton]

Colin:

Did you ever take a look at these, as I had mentioned?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5PCS-GENUINE-NEW-LCR-VTL5C-LINEAR-OPTOCOUPLER-DIP-4-8ZJ1-/231858914783?hash=item35fbde45df:g:6eYAAOSwe7BW0ZD4

And, with a design change I had mentioned,  I think the 10 turn pot and vernier 
dial are not needed. Did you try that?

Chuck

From: IRCA  on behalf of R. Colin Newell 

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 8:30 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

That must be a pretty old article (but very build-able!) as the VACTROL's I
can get are now around $12 (USD), Ten-turn posts (which the nimble fingered
could live
without ) around $16 (USD)

Totally into building more flexible products -- with a bit more direction
and experience.

-Mark Connelly via IRCA

>
> Steve Byan's original version Vactrol circuit used for Beverages can be
> adapted for Ewes.
>
>
> http://www.w0btu.com/Remote_Beverage_termination_control.html
>
>
> The trick is that the Ewe element would need to be redone with a
> two-conductor wire such as lamp cord, twisted pair, or speaker wire.
>
>
> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> South Yarmouth, MA
>
>


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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[R. Colin Newell]

That must be a pretty old article (but very build-able!) as the VACTROL's I
can get are now around $12 (USD), Ten-turn posts (which the nimble fingered
could live
without ) around $16 (USD)

Totally into building more flexible products -- with a bit more direction
and experience.

-Mark Connelly via IRCA

>
> Steve Byan's original version Vactrol circuit used for Beverages can be
> adapted for Ewes.
>
>
> http://www.w0btu.com/Remote_Beverage_termination_control.html
>
>
> The trick is that the Ewe element would need to be redone with a
> two-conductor wire such as lamp cord, twisted pair, or speaker wire.
>
>
> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> South Yarmouth, MA
>
>


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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---

Steve Byan's original version Vactrol circuit used for Beverages can be adapted 
for Ewes.


http://www.w0btu.com/Remote_Beverage_termination_control.html


The trick is that the Ewe element would need to be redone with a two-conductor 
wire such as lamp cord, twisted pair, or speaker wire.


Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA


<<
Patrick:


You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
of flexibility.
I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit of 
change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, but 
that's a different story.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
To: IRCA
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress


Chuck and Colin,


So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna? Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to use? 
I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil is 
swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP 
reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss 
that, as in OK it never made any difference.
My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) that 
runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for termination. I 
peak the pot for a null and leave it.




Patrick


Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager


> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> termination -
> I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> from my Vactrol supply.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so 
> > wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 
> > in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> > cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often 
> > the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising 
> > field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end 
> > down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire 
> > through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on 
> > it. But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the 
> > operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > fencing and all.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> >> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >>
> >> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
> >>
> >> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
> >>
> >> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
> >> do,
> >> head over here -
> >> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
> >>
> >> This article will grow a little every day.
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
> >> fast as possible.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
> >> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
> >> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
>>
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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Chuck Hutton]

Patrick:

You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
of flexibility.
I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit of 
change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, but 
that's a different story.

Chuck


From: IRCA  on behalf of Patrick Martin 

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
To: IRCA
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

Chuck and Colin,

So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna?  Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to 
use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil 
is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP 
reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss 
that, as in OK it never made any difference.
  My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) 
that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for 
termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.


Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> termination -
> I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> from my Vactrol supply.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so 
> > wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 
> > in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> >   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> > cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often 
> > the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising 
> > field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end 
> > down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire 
> > through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on 
> > it.  But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the 
> > operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> >  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > fencing and all.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> >> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >>
> >> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
> >>
> >> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
> >>
> >> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
> >> do,
> >> head over here -
> >> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
> >>
> >> This article will grow a little every day.
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
> >> fast as possible.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
> >> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

Chuck and Colin,

So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna?  Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to 
use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil 
is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP 
reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss 
that, as in OK it never made any difference.
  My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) 
that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for 
termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.


Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> termination -
> I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> from my Vactrol supply.
> 
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> 
> > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > 
> > Colin,
> > 
> > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so 
> > wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 
> > in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> >   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> > cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often 
> > the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising 
> > field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end 
> > down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire 
> > through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on 
> > it.  But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the 
> > operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> >  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > fencing and all.
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> > 
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> >> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >> 
> >> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
> >> 
> >> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
> >> 
> >> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
> >> do,
> >> head over here -
> >> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
> >> 
> >> This article will grow a little every day.
> >> 
> >> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
> >> fast as possible.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
> >> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
> >> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Chuck Hutton]

It may indeed work. It's not the voltage that is important, but rather the 
current. At the low current we require, there will be low losses and therefore 
may work. There are schemes where DC is sent down the coax to switch relays etc 
at the coax/antenna junction. If that works, using ground as ground should work.

Sending DC from the shack through coax to the transformer end of a EWE and then 
on to the termination end can be done, but it requires a special circuit that 
blocks DC from the transformer and couples it to the EWE wire. That means: a 
cap to block DC from going to the transformer and a coil to block RF from the 
DC path. This is similar to a "bias tee".

Chuck


From: IRCA  on behalf of coffee_canuck 

Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:00 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
termination -
I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground rods 
if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source from my 
Vactrol supply.

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>
> Colin,
>
> As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. Does 
> this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so wet 
> here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 in the 
> backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
>   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often the 
> wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising field. 
> Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end down to 
> the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire through the 
> lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on it.  But would 
> the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any 
> thoughts from anyone
>  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to the 
> termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric fencing 
> and all.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
>> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
>> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>>
>> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
>>
>> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
>>
>> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
>> do,
>> head over here -
>> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
>>
>> This article will grow a little every day.
>>
>> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
>> fast as possible.
>>
>> --
>> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
>> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
>> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[coffee_canuck]

Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
termination -
I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground rods 
if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source from my 
Vactrol supply.

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> Colin,
> 
> As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. Does 
> this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so wet 
> here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 in the 
> backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
>   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often the 
> wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising field. 
> Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end down to 
> the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire through the 
> lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on it.  But would 
> the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any 
> thoughts from anyone
>  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to the 
> termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric fencing 
> and all.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
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>> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
>> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>> 
>> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
>> 
>> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
>> 
>> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
>> do,
>> head over here -
>> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
>> 
>> This article will grow a little every day.
>> 
>> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
>> fast as possible.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
>> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
>> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[Patrick Martin]

Colin,

As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the control 
to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. Does this 
matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so wet here and 
I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 in the backyard 
and I will be using the Vactrol there.
   On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often the 
wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising field. 
Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end down to 
the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire through the 
lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on it.  But would 
the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any 
thoughts from anyone
  I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to the 
termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric fencing 
and all.
Thanks.


Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> 
> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
> 
> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
> 
> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
> do,
> head over here -
> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
> 
> This article will grow a little every day.
> 
> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
> fast as possible.
> 
> -- 
> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
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[IRCA] The VACTROL progress

[R. Colin Newell]

I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --

Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -

If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
do,
head over here -
http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer

This article will grow a little every day.

Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
fast as possible.

-- 
Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
 and DXer.ca  -
VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
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