Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Ah. That's the e-mail signature that AVG generates to inform the user that 
the message has been scanned and whether any viruses were found in either 
the incoming or outgoing message. This can be turned off through the AVG 
control centre. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
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Hi
 Thank you. I have noticed that some people have a notice at the bottom
of there e-mail saying there anti virus is out of date and it made me wonder
how the avg system works.

God bless,
Mark
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 You can do it either way, manually or automatically. By default it will
 update itself once a day between 8-10 AM. Hope that helps.
 Chris Hallsworth
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 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
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 Hi
 On avg do you have to up date the virus definitions manually or is it
 automatic?

 God bless,
 Mark
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 avg free is just fine.  Go to grisoft.com   marilyn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
I'm not David, but I'm sure that it's fully accessible like any other 
version of AVG Anti-virus. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
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Hi David,

Do you know about the level of accessabillity of AVG Internet Security...The
all-in-one?

Thanks
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 AVG is very accessible and at under $40 for a 2 year license pretty
 reasonable.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
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 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:21 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hello everyone,

 I currently have Nortan Anti Virus installed on my Vista laptop, but as
 has
 already been discussed here it is not accessible with JAWS.  Our Nortan
 subscription is up for renewal soon, so I thought I'd look into other
 compirable programs.

 I was wondering...Are there any good antivirus programs (not necessairally
 free ones) that are accessible with JAWS?  I'd rather have accessabillity
 and not need sighted help every time the Nortan window comes up.

 Thanks for any suggestions,
 Michael


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Erm, no, because standby turns off everything, including any connection 
devices, for example modem, except the ram and CPU, hence the ability to 
have data remain in memory even though it's in standby.
Chris Hallsworth
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Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
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No it won't.
David Ferrin
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I Have a question might be a dumb one, but what if your computer is on
stand-by will it still get the updates?

PEACE

John Carvalho
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I set it to automatically update every day at a time I prefer and it does
 its thing without my intervening.  marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread mr bengal
Hi Michael,Try nod 32 from esetdotcom.  It is really great.

Steve Alspach
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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hello everyone,

 I currently have Nortan Anti Virus installed on my Vista laptop, but as 
 has
 already been discussed here it is not accessible with JAWS.  Our Nortan
 subscription is up for renewal soon, so I thought I'd look into other
 compirable programs.

 I was wondering...Are there any good antivirus programs (not necessairally
 free ones) that are accessible with JAWS?  I'd rather have accessabillity
 and not need sighted help every time the Nortan window comes up.

 Thanks for any suggestions,
 Michael


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Re: [JAWS-Users] hot key for device manager

2007-10-07 Thread Annette
This command is specific to brand and even model of laptop.  I highly
recommend that a user read up on their particular brand and model of laptop
before executing this command.

Annette
 

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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:40 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] hot key for device manager

Hi, Here's a short cut for disabling/enabling  the mouse pad on laptops
- at least mine. xp homefunction key f7
The function key is one key to the right of the left control key.
Cathie
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Re: [JAWS-Users] hot key for device manager

2007-10-07 Thread AMTK161
On my HP laptop, at the top of the mouse pad closest to the keyboard, there 
was a button I could press to turn off the mouse pad.

HTH,
Michael
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 04:43
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hot key for device manager


 Hi. This doesn't appear to work on my Toshiba laptop, so yes this must be
 laptop-specific. I'd love to be able to turn off my mouse pad, but the 
 only
 way to do it as far as I can see is to actually disable the mouse pad
 through device manager. Does anyone using a Synaptecs pointing device know
 how to do this in a better way? Thanks in advance.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
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 Hi, Here's a short cut for disabling/enabling  the mouse pad on laptops
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 The function key is one key to the right of the left control key.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Betais available!

2007-10-07 Thread Eric Damery
Chris,
Feel free to email me off the list with an example of a mail message that gives 
you trouble. Send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I guess the first thing I would try is to turn off Table Processing in the 
INSERT V, Adjust JAWS Options dialog. Did you try this?
Regards,
Eric



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Christopher Bell
Sent: Sat 10/6/2007 8:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Betais 
available!



Eric--

I continue to be frustrated by Jaws 8.0 (plus updates) and the Jaws 9 Beta's
inability to read many e-mails in Outlook 2007.  This appears to be
primarily a problem for html e-mails in table format.  Jaws reads the table
row and column numbers but not the text; sometimes it will read the standard
boilerplate regarding how to request removal from a list but not the
substantive content.  Also, I find that Jaws 9 does not read even the table
format information in say all mode. On my laptop.  I am hoping these
problems can be addressed as they were not probles in Jaws 7.1.  Thank
you.Chris Bell

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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Beta is
available!

Well, I guess I blew this one.

It has been a long week. This message was sent in error to the JAWS users
list instead of the Freedom Scientific Private Beta List. I apologize.
Please disregard and do not ask about the where the file is now or how to
get this update, we have removed them from these locations.

We will be getting a new public beta update out once we complete work and
testing on the next round of fixes over the next 10 days.

Regards,
Eric Damery





From: Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 5:01 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Cc: JAWSIntlBeta
Subject: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Beta is available!



Hello Private Beta Testers,

JAWS Private Beta Build 9.0.356 is ready for testing. This one includes
quite a bit of change since the 353 build because we have been fixing items
that were held out of the public beta builds as we attempted to stabilize it
as best we could. The next update we do for the public will be in about 10
days or so I hope. Your attention to this list of fixes is greatly
appreciated.

The Known issues is empty today. Rosemary and Stephen are both off sipping
Margaritas somewhere so we are not as professional in the write up as we'd
like to be.

Special note:  The Red Sox are going for game two tonight at 8:30 ET and the
Yankees will be going for their second loss on Saturday!

 Regards,

Eric



 JAWS Private Beta Build 9.0.356 is ready for testing.


JAWS 9.0 Update


An update is provided for your convenience as well as to continue with some
level of testing of the update process during the beta cycle. Not all builds
provided during the beta cycle will have the update option. As the product
progresses, some builds will be new BASE BUILDS upon which subsequent
updates can be installed. The Automatic Update will update to JAWS 9.0.356
from the following prior builds:

*   9.0.353 Base Build or Update.

*   9.0.348 Base Build.

Attempts to update to 9.0.356 from any build other than what is listed will
fail by design. If in doubt or you have trouble, simply use the full install
instead. Updates are not yet available for Windows Vista, and are not
available for Windows 2000; you need to download and install the full
version.

* Update Patch:


1.  Please enter 90909 into the special code dialog in the JAWS about
box dialog. Go to the Help Menu, About. TAB to the special access code
button and press ENTER. Type or paste 90909 into the edit field.
2.  Select check for updates on the JAWS UI help menu. You will find
today's 9.0.356 in the list box.
3.  TAB to your choice and proceed with installation.


* Update Tip: How do you check to see if a listed update will update my
installed version of JAWS?


If you navigate the list of updates and highlight one of the listed updates
you can TAB to the detail button and press spacebar to get a list of the
versions of JAWS which can be updated by that particular update.


* If the Update fails:


Either Repair or install the full build, if available: Check out the FAQ:
How do I perform Installation Maintenance procedures like Repair and Modify?
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.cfm?QC=1057


NOTES


*   JAWS 9.0 beta will expire December 1, 2007.
*   For those who are testing the Outlook Calendar work: to test the
calendar, you need to disable the Task List option in View, To Do, menu.
ALT+V to drop the View menu, then select the To Do Bar sub menu,
then uncheck the Task List option.
*   MAGic and JAWS private beta testers: We are working on testing a

Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
www.grisoft.com is the website to download the trial. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


Hi Chris and others,

I shouldn't have limited my message to a response from David...Thanks for
your responses, Chris!  Does anyone know of a place I can download a trial
version of AVG Internet Security 7.5?

Thanks,
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 04:47
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 I'm not David, but I'm sure that it's fully accessible like any other
 version of AVG Anti-virus. Hope that helps.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
 From: AMTK161 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hi David,

 Do you know about the level of accessabillity of AVG Internet
 Security...The
 all-in-one?

 Thanks
 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 14:09
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 AVG is very accessible and at under $40 for a 2 year license pretty
 reasonable.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: AMTK161 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:21 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hello everyone,

 I currently have Nortan Anti Virus installed on my Vista laptop, but as
 has
 already been discussed here it is not accessible with JAWS.  Our Nortan
 subscription is up for renewal soon, so I thought I'd look into other
 compirable programs.

 I was wondering...Are there any good antivirus programs (not
 necessairally
 free ones) that are accessible with JAWS?  I'd rather have accessabillity
 and not need sighted help every time the Nortan window comes up.

 Thanks for any suggestions,
 Michael


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread AMTK161
Thank you Chris, I'll check that out now.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 09:43
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 www.grisoft.com is the website to download the trial. Hope that helps.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
 From: AMTK161 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hi Chris and others,

 I shouldn't have limited my message to a response from David...Thanks for
 your responses, Chris!  Does anyone know of a place I can download a trial
 version of AVG Internet Security 7.5?

 Thanks,
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 04:47
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 I'm not David, but I'm sure that it's fully accessible like any other
 version of AVG Anti-virus. Hope that helps.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
 From: AMTK161 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hi David,

 Do you know about the level of accessabillity of AVG Internet
 Security...The
 all-in-one?

 Thanks
 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 14:09
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 AVG is very accessible and at under $40 for a 2 year license pretty
 reasonable.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: AMTK161 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:21 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hello everyone,

 I currently have Nortan Anti Virus installed on my Vista laptop, but as
 has
 already been discussed here it is not accessible with JAWS.  Our Nortan
 subscription is up for renewal soon, so I thought I'd look into other
 compirable programs.

 I was wondering...Are there any good antivirus programs (not
 necessairally
 free ones) that are accessible with JAWS?  I'd rather have 
 accessabillity
 and not need sighted help every time the Nortan window comes up.

 Thanks for any suggestions,
 Michael


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [PHISH] Re: Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-07 Thread JOHN O CARVALHO
Thanks for your both answers.

PEACE

John Carvalho
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: [PHISH] Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Erm, no, because standby turns off everything, including any connection
 devices, for example modem, except the ram and CPU, hence the ability to
 have data remain in memory even though it's in standby.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
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 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 No it won't.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN O CARVALHO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 I Have a question might be a dumb one, but what if your computer is on
 stand-by will it still get the updates?

 PEACE

 John Carvalho
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 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


I set it to automatically update every day at a time I prefer and it does
 its thing without my intervening.  marilyn


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[JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines

2007-10-07 Thread David Ferrin
I've just added the following to the list guidelines.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto 
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not 
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed! 
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Ah, what a good idea. I seem to remember someone who kept sending me 
autoresponders every time I posted to the list. If you're going away, for 
goodness sake let the list server know please, and not just send out 
autoresponders. Thank you.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines


I've just added the following to the list guidelines.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] acrobat reader

2007-10-07 Thread Marilyn Walker
Go to adobe.com and scroll down to the latest version.  It is a bit tricky 
way down the page as to where to download but it's there and it's free. 
marilyn 


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Version 9.0.348U

2007-10-07 Thread Rick
Hi Eric,
Useing the above refferenced version, Jaws says attachment,
on your message posted to the list this morning with the following subject 
line.
Re: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 PrivateBetais 
available!

However, with the security settings set to allow attachments, I find no 
attachments.

Richard Justice
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Version 9.0.348U

2007-10-07 Thread AMTK161
Hi Richard,

Sometimes what has happened with me is a pop-up message has come up, telling 
me that Windows has blocked access to the attachment.  This happens to me 
using Windows Vista and Windows Mail, although it has happened with earlier 
versions of JAWS on Windows XP.  What I usually did was hit control+f as 
though I were going to forward the message to someone, tab over to the 
attachments list view and open it from there.

I wish there was a way to disable this, as it usually only happens with .wma 
and .mp3 files.  (Admittedly, though, I haven't gotten an infected file to 
see if Windows blocks it or not and don't plan on trying, g).
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 12:13
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Version 9.0.348U


 Hi Eric,
 Useing the above refferenced version, Jaws says attachment,
 on your message posted to the list this morning with the following subject
 line.
 Re: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 PrivateBetais
 available!

 However, with the security settings set to allow attachments, I find no
 attachments.

 Richard Justice
 www.blind-computing.com


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines

2007-10-07 Thread torgersonenator
Hi
 Actually, auto responders could potentially let the criminal element 
know when you weren't home. A very bad idea. I have wondered how to set up 
an auto responder for other reasons though.

God bless,
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From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines


 Ah, what a good idea. I seem to remember someone who kept sending me
 autoresponders every time I posted to the list. If you're going away, for
 goodness sake let the list server know please, and not just send out
 autoresponders. Thank you.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:49 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines


 I've just added the following to the list guidelines.

 No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG Internet Security 7.5

2007-10-07 Thread AMTK161
Hello everyone,

In case anyone is wondering, AVG Internet Security 7.5 works great with 
JAWS, as far as I can tell.
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 If you find out, please share.  Have you tried e mailing grisoft about it?
 marilyn


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[JAWS-Users] Regarding my last post

2007-10-07 Thread Siobhan
Hello again.  Sorry for two messages back to back, but I just wanted to clarify 
that there is no problem with how the keystroke is set up, and I do realize 
that versions before nine have not had that.  I just wanted to clear that up so 
no one thought I was coming down on jaws whilst still in beta.  My  thinking 
is: Say everything you want to, that way something might be done in this 
release, or worked on for the next one.  Thanks again,
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[JAWS-Users] Hotkey to turn off the mousepad on a Toshiba lap top

2007-10-07 Thread Ann Byrne
On my Toshiba lap top the hotkey to turn off the mousepad is either 
shift-f9 or control-f9--but I don't remember which.  I can also do it 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] power point

2007-10-07 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Shannon

I wrote to a man in England who does tutorials.  Here's the link he gave me 
to find a tutorial on powerpoint.  It's

http://www.blind.state.ia.us/assist/tut-list.htm

Hope this helps.
Rosemarie

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[JAWS-Users] Finding the width of a cell in Excel 2002

2007-10-07 Thread Ann Byrne
With JAWS 8, I want to read the width of a specific cell in MS 
Excel.  The tutorial I am using says JAWSkey-F, but that gives only 
font information.

Anybody remember this one???

thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding the width of a cell in Excel 2002

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Anne, just a guess, but try JAWS key F twice quickly. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
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With JAWS 8, I want to read the width of a specific cell in MS
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font information.

Anybody remember this one???

thanks,

Ann


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hotkey to turn off the mousepad on a Toshiba lap top

2007-10-07 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Oh, my goodness! On mine it's Function F9, and it's a toggle! Cheers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding the width of a cell in Excel 2002

2007-10-07 Thread Annette
In JAWS 8 the command is Insert+f+f.  That is hold down the Insert or JAWS
key, and press the letter F twice.  This will give you a virtual JAWS window
with all kinds of info about the cell.  Unfortunately, using this command
will give you how many points wide and high the cell is, for example 48
points wide by 12 points high.  When you obtain the column width from the
column submenu off of the menu bar, you will be told that the cell is 8.4
wide.  I have no idea what type of measurement Microsoft is using.  

Another thing to keep in mind is that there does not appear to be a way to
obtain the width of a range of cells that are merged.  As best that I can
figure out, you can only obtain the width of the cell in the first column in
the range.  

Let me know if this does not make any sense and I will try to explain it
differently.

Annette
.  

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding the width of a cell in Excel 2002

With JAWS 8, I want to read the width of a specific cell in MS Excel.  The
tutorial I am using says JAWSkey-F, but that gives only font information.

Anybody remember this one???

thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death etc.

2007-10-07 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
Very many thanks to you, David Griffith, for your very helpful information 
below.

I can tell you all that the blue screen problem is solved by that time by 
installing another display driver on the computer mentioned, but the 
information you gave could be *very* helpful in a situation like that in 
the future, and a also have plans to update my own laptop after 
3-4-year-usage of my present one, and I still hav a well-working desktop 
here in my home office.

I would -by the way - *never* use only a laptop, not even a good one, for 
all my work, but have a desktop-laptop-network instead. I workd maby two 
years having only a laptop in usage, but that became very frustrating a) 
because of lacking peripheral connections, b) because of unusable 
integrated audio hardware in that particular model etc. And then there is 
the maintenance as a whole; in a desktop you can update almost every 
single unit of the hardware if needed, but not in a laptop. But if having 
a well customized desktop in usage all the time, the problematic issues in 
your laptop aren't so hard to cope with, because you still have a 
hopefully well-functioning computer in usage. But in the earlier days 
having more than one computer in usage was more rare because of higher 
hardware prices than nowadays. Today a well-funcioning basic desktop unit 
can be set up by approcimately 400 euros, but using the cheapest hardware 
parts. That unit could be used as a testing unit, for instance, and you 
could still do your main work using your main unit built of better 
components. Perhaps you still may prefer to use a separate soundcard or 
display adapter instead of an integrated one etc. But why use any 
expensive parts if the unit is beeing used for some test or server 
purposes only?

Have any of you - by the way - noticed any difference in JAWS's behavior 
when using integrated soundcards and display adapters compared to using 
separate ones? My friend mentioned is an audiophile and deals with 
professional audio software, and he usis, of course, a separate soundcard 
like AVE64 or something like that, but I am not as much involved in that 
than he is. But even I am using something else than basic loudspeakers and 
headphones in my setup.

Best regards,

Jyrki Voutilainen

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death


 In ;my experience blue screen are more often than  not Video driver 
 issues.

 This can be very hard to correct and in the worst case scenarios I have 
 had
 to reinstall windows itself to avoid these problems.

 Before this drastic step you could try the following.
 1. Go to the web site of your video card manufacturer and download the
 latest driver and install this. You may have to repair or reinstall Jaws
 after this. Unfortunately some video driver setups and their websites 
 may
 not be fully accessible and you may need sighted help but you could have 
 a
 go.

 2. If this does not work then reduce hardware acceleration on your video
 card to 80%. I have found Jaws works on my system at 80% but no lower 
 and
 this can greatly reduce blue screen crashes.

 To reduce hardware acceleration on XP Pro

 1. Go to Control Panel
 2. Go to Display
 3. Press Control Tab until you get to Settings Tab.
 4. Tab until you get to Advanced.
 5. Control Tab until you get to Troubleshooting page.
 6. Press Tab until you hear Hardware Acceleration and left right 
 slider.
 7. Use your left cursor key to reduce Hardware Acceleration to 80%.
 7. Tab to OK and keep on pressing OK to close display settings.

 NB some video drivers insert their own troubleshooting tab under display 
 but
 I have found it better to use the windows troubleshooting under the 
 Advanced
 tab as described above.

 Can't guarantee it will work but it has helped me on some systems in the
 past.

 Regards

 David Griffith


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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death

 Hi
 When on ebay and arrowing down, more times than not I get Blue screen of
 Death and have to manually shutdown.I have a one year dell computer and 
 when
 I was getting those MSN errors messages, I downloaded  Dell driver tools 
 as
 suggested and ran it  with no effect. Updates are current. Message 
 mention
 video's drivers conflict but a sighted person did not see any red 
 conflict
 flags.
 Hope someone can help.
 Regards
 Scott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] power point

2007-10-07 Thread Annette
If you are using JAWS 7.x or 8.x, I'm thinking that the tutorial listed on
that web page will not be very helpful.  If my memory serves me correctly,
JAWS 7 and PowerPoint worked together very differently and much better then
earlier combinations.  Hopefully, others on this list can provide more
details.

I have not come across any tutorials for PowerPoint, I'm self-taught.

Annette
 

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] power point

Hi, Shannon

I wrote to a man in England who does tutorials.  Here's the link he gave me
to find a tutorial on powerpoint.  It's

http://www.blind.state.ia.us/assist/tut-list.htm

Hope this helps.
Rosemarie

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2007-10-07 Thread Ann Byrne
Thanks, Chris,

That did it.

Ann
At 03:58 PM 10/7/2007, you wrote:
Anne, just a guess, but try JAWS key F twice quickly. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding the width of a cell in Excel 2002


With JAWS 8, I want to read the width of a specific cell in MS
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font information.

Anybody remember this one???

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Ann


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Re: [JAWS-Users] acrobat reader

2007-10-07 Thread Flor Lynch
No such problems with Adobe Reader 8.1 here.  If anything, version 8 works 
better than 7, being a bit faster in document processing.

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] acrobat reader


You want Adobe Reader 7.0.  I found it recently at Majorgeeks.com,
but when I went to find it again to give you the address I
couldn't.  Sorry about that.  You do not want Adobe reader 8.  It
crashes on my machine.
EAt 07:08 PM 10/6/2007, you wrote:
Hi, I had my computer re formatted  it now has acrobat version 5
which does not support screen readers. Suggestions as to where to
download a jaws friendly version - free would be great, but at this
point I'd pay. I have searched the jaws users web page  googgled 
attempted downloading version 8.1 (or something like that) with out
any success. Not sure where this supposed download is going but not
where I can find or use it.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Cathie
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[JAWS-Users] cddb.com

2007-10-07 Thread Flor Lynch
Hi,

Any of you out there in search of a difficult site?  Try

www.cddb.com

and look for a specific artist, or specific CD's.  Some of the links are 
obviously not labelled and are not being read in the ordinary ways by JAWS - 
any version.  As well, You only get a limited amount of search results when 
you search for something that has many or hundreds of results.  I'm 
summarizing, but there are some problems with this site for sure.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] cddb.com

2007-10-07 Thread Siobhan
Hi Flore.  I just went there and while the site isn't fantastic in terms of 
links being labeled, I only really saw that as a problem.  I wonder if 
people's views of a website are so differing that you might not have many 
agreeing with you.  I'm trying to come across polite and so I hope you don't 
take my criticism as anything other then I had no trouble with the site. 
Thanks for the site though.
Siobhan
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] cddb.com


 Hi,

 Any of you out there in search of a difficult site?  Try

 www.cddb.com

 and look for a specific artist, or specific CD's.  Some of the links are
 obviously not labelled and are not being read in the ordinary ways by 
 JAWS -
 any version.  As well, You only get a limited amount of search results 
 when
 you search for something that has many or hundreds of results.  I'm
 summarizing, but there are some problems with this site for sure.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] cddb.com

2007-10-07 Thread Flor Lynch
Hi Siobhan,

What did you do on the site?  Try searching for the artist Carmen, and see 
what results you come up with.  Somebody else brought it up on another list, 
and i went there to do that and wasn't impressed by what I found.  It may be 
that the person should have been more specific; introduced further 
refinements into their search.  So be particular rather than general.

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From: Siobhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cddb.com


Hi Flore.  I just went there and while the site isn't fantastic in terms of
links being labeled, I only really saw that as a problem.  I wonder if
people's views of a website are so differing that you might not have many
agreeing with you.  I'm trying to come across polite and so I hope you don't
take my criticism as anything other then I had no trouble with the site.
Thanks for the site though.
Siobhan
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] cddb.com


 Hi,

 Any of you out there in search of a difficult site?  Try

 www.cddb.com

 and look for a specific artist, or specific CD's.  Some of the links are
 obviously not labelled and are not being read in the ordinary ways by
 JAWS -
 any version.  As well, You only get a limited amount of search results
 when
 you search for something that has many or hundreds of results.  I'm
 summarizing, but there are some problems with this site for sure.


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[JAWS-Users] PC Arrows and Skype Chat Messages

2007-10-07 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
Hi there,

With vary great frustration I noticed, once again, that things may work 
differently also when using the same JAWS (8.0) and Skype (3.5) versions:

One of my friends and I have exactly the same versions of the software 
mentioned before, but still he is able to read the Skype Chat messages 
also with the PC arrows, but I'm not. One possible reason could be 
different display adapters?

My friend mentioned has a recently purchased laptop, and I tried the same 
with my approximately three-year-old desktop, but exactly with the same 
software than he, and we both run Windows XP Home SP 2 at the moment. But 
my XP will very soon be updated to XP Professional, but for other reasons 
than that.

the JAWS's behavior depends certainly on how the information is sent to 
the screen, so the version and the model of the display adapter should 
play some role there, shouldn't it? Why don't update the display adapter 
at the same time than the os too, because it's a big update anyway?

Best regards,

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[JAWS-Users] normal

2007-10-07 Thread Devona Abel

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Patricia
If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt tab your 
going to run into it that way?
Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without it 
showing up when you alt tab between applications?

Thanks,

Patricia 


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[JAWS-Users] Misspelled Words, JAWS, Finnish and Smileys

2007-10-07 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
Oh, I am *very* sorry about some misspelled words in my last message, but 
I never proofread it. But they could 'look' quite funny when using JAWS 
with any synthesizer. But Eloquence with JAWS or some other synthesizer is 
a very good proofreader, but only if the language used is supported like 
Finnish, for instance. But reading Finnish with American or Brittish 
English checked could be too funny to cope with, and that happened me 
while doing some Business English exercises for my present school, and I 
had to stop working for a while because of un-controlled laughing!

And finally: Should smileys bee used on that list at all, or do they only 
make the reading of messages more confusing? Or could they be replaced 
with something like smile or be totally avoided? But perhaps reading 
Finnish with English checked is too funny to describe with any smiley?

Regards,

Jyrki Voutilainen

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From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Cc: Lauri Hallikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death etc.


 Very many thanks to you, David Griffith, for your very helpful 
 information
 below.

 I can tell you all that the blue screen problem is solved by that time 
 by
 installing another display driver on the computer mentioned, but the
 information you gave could be *very* helpful in a situation like that in
 the future, and a also have plans to update my own laptop after
 3-4-year-usage of my present one, and I still hav a well-working desktop
 here in my home office.

 I would -by the way - *never* use only a laptop, not even a good one, 
 for
 all my work, but have a desktop-laptop-network instead. I workd maby two
 years having only a laptop in usage, but that became very frustrating a)
 because of lacking peripheral connections, b) because of unusable
 integrated audio hardware in that particular model etc. And then there 
 is
 the maintenance as a whole; in a desktop you can update almost every
 single unit of the hardware if needed, but not in a laptop. But if 
 having
 a well customized desktop in usage all the time, the problematic issues 
 in
 your laptop aren't so hard to cope with, because you still have a
 hopefully well-functioning computer in usage. But in the earlier days
 having more than one computer in usage was more rare because of higher
 hardware prices than nowadays. Today a well-funcioning basic desktop 
 unit
 can be set up by approcimately 400 euros, but using the cheapest 
 hardware
 parts. That unit could be used as a testing unit, for instance, and you
 could still do your main work using your main unit built of better
 components. Perhaps you still may prefer to use a separate soundcard or
 display adapter instead of an integrated one etc. But why use any
 expensive parts if the unit is beeing used for some test or server
 purposes only?

 Have any of you - by the way - noticed any difference in JAWS's behavior
 when using integrated soundcards and display adapters compared to using
 separate ones? My friend mentioned is an audiophile and deals with
 professional audio software, and he usis, of course, a separate 
 soundcard
 like AVE64 or something like that, but I am not as much involved in that
 than he is. But even I am using something else than basic loudspeakers 
 and
 headphones in my setup.

 Best regards,

 Jyrki Voutilainen

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death


 In ;my experience blue screen are more often than  not Video driver
 issues.

 This can be very hard to correct and in the worst case scenarios I have
 had
 to reinstall windows itself to avoid these problems.

 Before this drastic step you could try the following.
 1. Go to the web site of your video card manufacturer and download the
 latest driver and install this. You may have to repair or reinstall 
 Jaws
 after this. Unfortunately some video driver setups and their websites
 may
 not be fully accessible and you may need sighted help but you could 
 have
 a
 go.

 2. If this does not work then reduce hardware acceleration on your 
 video
 card to 80%. I have found Jaws works on my system at 80% but no lower
 and
 this can greatly reduce blue screen crashes.

 To reduce hardware acceleration on XP Pro

 1. Go to Control Panel
 2. Go to Display
 3. Press Control Tab until you get to Settings Tab.
 4. Tab until you get to Advanced.
 5. Control Tab until you get to Troubleshooting page.
 6. Press Tab until you hear Hardware Acceleration and left right
 slider.
 7. Use your left cursor key to reduce Hardware Acceleration to 80%.
 7. Tab to OK and keep on pressing OK to close display settings.

 NB some video drivers insert their own troubleshooting tab under 
 display
 but
 I have found it better to use the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default 
JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that 
window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu 
will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree 
view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter 
and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space 
key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4 
and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your 
screen anymore.

Was it that what you were looking for?

Best regards,

-- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Patricia
No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it there 
either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Sarah
There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto havve it 
run in the system tray or  in th etask list.
SAG
- Original Message - 
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it there 
either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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