[JAWS-Users] sound recording problem with hp's dv 6000 series laptops
Hello friends, I am dinesh thole from pune. I have a hp dv6516tx laptop with windows vista. from the time I have purchased the laptop, I am facing sound recording problem on the laptop. the problem is, the recording done on the laptop is not clear There is humming noise in the baground, after the recorded file is played. There is disturbance in recording. This problem is there, whether I do the recording using the internal mike or a hai quality external mike. I took the laptop to the service centre and they took the following actions under the guidance of hp's technical support. 1. They restored the laptop to the factory condition by reinstalling windows vista home premium through the recovery disks. They also installed all the latest bios and the audio drivers, and all other drivers. they checked the various microphone settings in the realtek high definition audio options in the control panel. 2. they changed the display panel on which the internal mike is placed. 3. they changed the motherboard on which the realtek high definition audio chip is there. 4. they compared the recording with hp dv2000 model, which has the conecsant audio chip. the recording quality was very good on the dv 2000 model which has the conecsant audio chip as compared with my laptop. similar problem was there when they checked with the other laptop of the same series which had the realtek chip. hp's service center gave me a service report saying that it is a common problem with this series laptops. the senior technical people are saying that this is the limitation of the laptop, and we can not do anything. according to me, there is a problem with the realtek high definition audio chip which they are providing with the hp dv6000 series laptops. that is why not only my laptop, but all other laptops in the dv6000 series are also having this problem. since I need to do audio recording everyday, I am at a disadvantage after buying this laptop. I did not know about this problem before buying this laptop. otherwise I would have bought any other model. hp is not ready to do anything for me in this case even though there is a manufacturing defect in the dv6000 series notebooks. for trial, I recorded on soni, dell, compack laptops. but no laptop is having such recording problem and the recording quality was very good on these laptops. I want to know if any of you is facing this kind of problem with the hp laptop. also I would like the advice of the members on this list regarding this matter, and what can I do further. my laptop is in the warranty period. also if advisable, I am ready to take this matter to the consumer court, because just like me, I do not want other members to suffer after investing good amount of money on these hp laptops. so any of you are planning to purchase a hp laptop of the dv 6000 series, and which has the realtek high definition audio chip, and if you are going to use it for recording, then please check the laptop carefully. and if possible, please select other model. I request all the members to give me your valuable opinion and advice on this matter at the earliest. thanking you all. warm regards. dinesh thole. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 9922942801. skype id: dinesh.thole Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] sound recording problem with hp's dv 6000 serieslaptops
Cross-posting is forbidden on this list, please consult the list guidelines for proper posting methods. Please keep this in mind in the future. As for your problem, someone else will have to respond, and they probably will shortly. Thank you, Richard Q Justice-list moderator - Original Message - From: dinesh thole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:41 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sound recording problem with hp's dv 6000 serieslaptops Hello friends, I am dinesh thole from pune. I have a hp dv6516tx laptop with windows vista. from the time I have purchased the laptop, I am facing sound recording problem on the laptop. the problem is, the recording done on the laptop is not clear There is humming noise in the baground, after the recorded file is played. There is disturbance in recording. This problem is there, whether I do the recording using the internal mike or a hai quality external mike. I took the laptop to the service centre and they took the following actions under the guidance of hp's technical support. 1. They restored the laptop to the factory condition by reinstalling windows vista home premium through the recovery disks. They also installed all the latest bios and the audio drivers, and all other drivers. they checked the various microphone settings in the realtek high definition audio options in the control panel. 2. they changed the display panel on which the internal mike is placed. 3. they changed the motherboard on which the realtek high definition audio chip is there. 4. they compared the recording with hp dv2000 model, which has the conecsant audio chip. the recording quality was very good on the dv 2000 model which has the conecsant audio chip as compared with my laptop. similar problem was there when they checked with the other laptop of the same series which had the realtek chip. hp's service center gave me a service report saying that it is a common problem with this series laptops. the senior technical people are saying that this is the limitation of the laptop, and we can not do anything. according to me, there is a problem with the realtek high definition audio chip which they are providing with the hp dv6000 series laptops. that is why not only my laptop, but all other laptops in the dv6000 series are also having this problem. since I need to do audio recording everyday, I am at a disadvantage after buying this laptop. I did not know about this problem before buying this laptop. otherwise I would have bought any other model. hp is not ready to do anything for me in this case even though there is a manufacturing defect in the dv6000 series notebooks. for trial, I recorded on soni, dell, compack laptops. but no laptop is having such recording problem and the recording quality was very good on these laptops. I want to know if any of you is facing this kind of problem with the hp laptop. also I would like the advice of the members on this list regarding this matter, and what can I do further. my laptop is in the warranty period. also if advisable, I am ready to take this matter to the consumer court, because just like me, I do not want other members to suffer after investing good amount of money on these hp laptops. so any of you are planning to purchase a hp laptop of the dv 6000 series, and which has the realtek high definition audio chip, and if you are going to use it for recording, then please check the laptop carefully. and if possible, please select other model. I request all the members to give me your valuable opinion and advice on this matter at the earliest. thanking you all. warm regards. dinesh thole. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 9922942801. skype id: dinesh.thole Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL
[JAWS-Users] New JFW Update with AVG 8; still Having Problems
Hi all, I've updated JFW to the latest version that just came out. I'm using AVG Internet Security version 8. I can now get to the AVG interface and check my settings, but the AVG interface still crashed when I changed e-mail scanner settings or firewall settings. I wonder if I have to re-install AVG now that I've updated JAWS. Jerry Berrier Shrewsbury, MA (508) 735-4420 http://www.birdblind.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] my window can not automatically log on
when I start my computer and it is on the log one window. and the first tings is: it told me that I ahve 12 unread mail. and I tab one and it go to the shut down button. and tab again, it is the user name. ming how can I solved this problem? --- 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED] 寫道： hello everyone, this is Ming. I've update my window to sp3 but, after t hat I need to choose the user name. and there is just one user name and I press enter. and then it log on my system. how can I cancel t his isue? Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming Yahoo! Mail具備一流的網上安全保護功能，請前往 http://hk.antispam.yahoo.com/ 了解更多相關資訊! Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming Yahoo! Mail具備一流的網上安全保護功能，請前往 http://hk.antispam.yahoo.com/ 了解更多相關資訊! Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] sound recording problem with hp's dv 6000serieslaptops
I am very sorry for the same. - Original Message - From: Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sound recording problem with hp's dv 6000serieslaptops Cross-posting is forbidden on this list, please consult the list guidelines for proper posting methods. Please keep this in mind in the future. As for your problem, someone else will have to respond, and they probably will shortly. Thank you, Richard Q Justice-list moderator - Original Message - From: dinesh thole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:41 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sound recording problem with hp's dv 6000 serieslaptops Hello friends, I am dinesh thole from pune. I have a hp dv6516tx laptop with windows vista. from the time I have purchased the laptop, I am facing sound recording problem on the laptop. the problem is, the recording done on the laptop is not clear There is humming noise in the baground, after the recorded file is played. There is disturbance in recording. This problem is there, whether I do the recording using the internal mike or a hai quality external mike. I took the laptop to the service centre and they took the following actions under the guidance of hp's technical support. 1. They restored the laptop to the factory condition by reinstalling windows vista home premium through the recovery disks. They also installed all the latest bios and the audio drivers, and all other drivers. they checked the various microphone settings in the realtek high definition audio options in the control panel. 2. they changed the display panel on which the internal mike is placed. 3. they changed the motherboard on which the realtek high definition audio chip is there. 4. they compared the recording with hp dv2000 model, which has the conecsant audio chip. the recording quality was very good on the dv 2000 model which has the conecsant audio chip as compared with my laptop. similar problem was there when they checked with the other laptop of the same series which had the realtek chip. hp's service center gave me a service report saying that it is a common problem with this series laptops. the senior technical people are saying that this is the limitation of the laptop, and we can not do anything. according to me, there is a problem with the realtek high definition audio chip which they are providing with the hp dv6000 series laptops. that is why not only my laptop, but all other laptops in the dv6000 series are also having this problem. since I need to do audio recording everyday, I am at a disadvantage after buying this laptop. I did not know about this problem before buying this laptop. otherwise I would have bought any other model. hp is not ready to do anything for me in this case even though there is a manufacturing defect in the dv6000 series notebooks. for trial, I recorded on soni, dell, compack laptops. but no laptop is having such recording problem and the recording quality was very good on these laptops. I want to know if any of you is facing this kind of problem with the hp laptop. also I would like the advice of the members on this list regarding this matter, and what can I do further. my laptop is in the warranty period. also if advisable, I am ready to take this matter to the consumer court, because just like me, I do not want other members to suffer after investing good amount of money on these hp laptops. so any of you are planning to purchase a hp laptop of the dv 6000 series, and which has the realtek high definition audio chip, and if you are going to use it for recording, then please check the laptop carefully. and if possible, please select other model. I request all the members to give me your valuable opinion and advice on this matter at the earliest. thanking you all. warm regards. dinesh thole. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 9922942801. skype id: dinesh.thole Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for
[JAWS-Users] my window can not automatically log on
hello everyone, this is Ming. I've update my window to sp3 but, after t hat I need to choose the user name. and there is just one user name and I press enter. and then it log on my system. how can I cancel t his isue? Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming Yahoo! Mail具備一流的網上安全保護功能，請前往 http://hk.antispam.yahoo.com/ 了解更多相關資訊! Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] New JFW Update with AVG 8; still Having Problems
Hi Jerry, I am having these types of problems, too. I emailed AVG back in March and they said that it was a problem with other programs interacting with AVG. What I've done is upgrade to the latest AVG and that has sort of fixed the problem... and when a crash happens, just restarted AVG. Thanks for the heads-up on the new JFW...I eagerly await testing out AVG with the JAWS issue fixed. Also, if you do reinstall AVG now that you have the new JFW installed, please let us know how that works? Thanks Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 07:25 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JFW Update with AVG 8; still Having Problems Hi all, I've updated JFW to the latest version that just came out. I'm using AVG Internet Security version 8. I can now get to the AVG interface and check my settings, but the AVG interface still crashed when I changed e-mail scanner settings or firewall settings. I wonder if I have to re-install AVG now that I've updated JAWS. Jerry Berrier Shrewsbury, MA (508) 735-4420 http://www.birdblind.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] my window can not automatically log on
My Windows is not english and I'm guessing the translation here. If you go to control panel - UserAccounts Make sure that there only is one user account. Disable Guest if there is one, and delete all others (in my case I deleted ASP.net) If yours is the only account there, you should automatically log on without getting a screen with password first. Corien. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS
I thought some of you on the list might be interested in what I found about the free AVG 8 antivirus program. If you go to www.free.grisoft.com and choose the link for downloading the free version, you will be taken to a page where the three versions of AVG are listed. It was quite surprising to me to find out what the free basic version does not include. It does not include anti-rootkit detection, it does not provide protection for instant messaging, it does not screen downloads for malicious content, and it does not give real-time protection from poisoned web pages. Below is the comparison of AVG Free, AVG antivirus paid version, and the AVG Internet Security suite as shown on the Grisoft site: AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition AVG Anti-Virus AVG Internet Security, Protection against viruses, worms and trojans Yes Yes Yes Anti-Spyware Protection against spyware, adware and identity-theft Yes Yes Yes Anti-Rootkit Protection against hidden threats that deliver malicious content No Yes Yes Anti-Spam Catches e-mail threats including phishing, fraud and spam No No Yes Firewall Stops hackers and viruses spread over the internet No No Yes Safe Downloads Screens your downloads for malicious content No Yes Yes Safe Instant Messaging Protects your ICQ and MSN communication No Yes Yes Safe Search Safely click search results Yes Yes Yes Safe Surf Real-time protection from poisoned web pages No Yes Yes Free Support Free support and service around the clock and across the globe No Yes Yes Again, I found it quite surprising that the free version did not include anti-rootkit protection or instant messaging protection. Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] my window can not automatically log on
Hi Ming, I suggest the following. Go into your Run dialogue box on the Start menu and type control userpasswords2 then press enter. You will find yourself in a User Accounts page. You will probably need to check the first box you are on and then need to type in the following field your User name. Ok that. I hope this will work for you. You should now be able to boot up your system and go straight in. Best of luck. David - Original Message - From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] my window can not automatically log on hello everyone, this is Ming. I've update my window to sp3 but, after t hat I need to choose the user name. and there is just one user name and I press enter. and then it log on my system. how can I cancel t his isue? Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming Yahoo! Mail具備一流的網上安全保護功能，請前往 http://hk.antispam.yahoo.com/ 了解更多相關資訊! Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS
Hi, this is why I went for Avast; it had more protection features, even the free home edition had more protection features than AVG Free. The only thing it won't protect you from with Avast Home is script blocking, but that's better than what you would be missing with AVG Free. Just my £0.02 worth. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JAWSUsers jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS I thought some of you on the list might be interested in what I found about the free AVG 8 antivirus program. If you go to www.free.grisoft.com and choose the link for downloading the free version, you will be taken to a page where the three versions of AVG are listed. It was quite surprising to me to find out what the free basic version does not include. It does not include anti-rootkit detection, it does not provide protection for instant messaging, it does not screen downloads for malicious content, and it does not give real-time protection from poisoned web pages. Below is the comparison of AVG Free, AVG antivirus paid version, and the AVG Internet Security suite as shown on the Grisoft site: AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition AVG Anti-Virus AVG Internet Security, Protection against viruses, worms and trojans Yes Yes Yes Anti-Spyware Protection against spyware, adware and identity-theft Yes Yes Yes Anti-Rootkit Protection against hidden threats that deliver malicious content No Yes Yes Anti-Spam Catches e-mail threats including phishing, fraud and spam No No Yes Firewall Stops hackers and viruses spread over the internet No No Yes Safe Downloads Screens your downloads for malicious content No Yes Yes Safe Instant Messaging Protects your ICQ and MSN communication No Yes Yes Safe Search Safely click search results Yes Yes Yes Safe Surf Real-time protection from poisoned web pages No Yes Yes Free Support Free support and service around the clock and across the globe No Yes Yes Again, I found it quite surprising that the free version did not include anti-rootkit protection or instant messaging protection. Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Stopping Speech in JFW 8 9
Hi, I know that in the latest build of JAWS 9 you can stop JAWS from reading web pages automatically. This can be set using the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue box, under the general options category I think. Anyway, look for document automatically read and press space to turn it off. Then press enter to save your changes. In terms of OE6, do the above, but look for messages automatically read and press space to turn it off and press enter. Hope that helps. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Stopping Speech in JFW 8 9 Hi All, JAWS 8.0.2173 and 9.0.2169 work much better for me with Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE6 and is better behaved with combo boxes in IE 7 than JAWS 7.1 did and I'd very much like to be able to use either of them instead of 7.1. However, 8.0.2173 and 9.0.2169 don't seem to be stopping as quickly in OE and IE when I hit Control to stop speech the way it would with 7.1. In 7.1, focus would be placed almost exactly where I stopped speech, but in the two later versions focus is at least at the bottom of the page in IE 7 and way below where I stop speech in OE. For example, at http://www.stopyourekillingme.com/index.html when the page loads, if I hit Control when JAWS speaks the first G link, I land on the copyright notice instead of the G link. If I am reading a post from this list, for example, I land after the Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: part. My verbosity options are set for advanced and it's with XP Home with SP 2. I looked at the technical support notices on The FS site and old posts I'd saved about JFW 8 and I didn't see anything. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem in 8.0.2173and 9.0.2169 ? I repaired JAWS 8 back in April when I first installed it, but it didn't help. My tech used his cell phone phoned to contact FS' tech support about 8 and I couldn't hear the other end of the conversation, but he said they didn't offer any solutions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] New JFW Update with AVG 8; still Having Problems
Jerry, avg still isn't up to par as I have discovered with the thirty day trial version. I could not get to the user interface any which way I tried. All I got was the constant plea to buy. I have the jaws upgrade that was supposed to fix this pesky issue. So, I just removed avg 8 security suite trial from my system and am going to depend on superantispyware, advanced windows care and stop sign. marilyn Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Torrent Harvester
its useable, but you sometimes have to use jaws mouse to get back into the search box. At 12:27 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote: hi listers just wondering if anyone on this list tried or sampled Torrent Harvester is there any scripts for it? any help would be appreciated thanks. cheers. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008
I've downloaded the new AVG 8.0 and I don't like it at all. I wish I would have known that I could have kept 7.5 until December 31, 2008, because I would have. It is not Jaws user friendly at all and it's slowing my computer down. Debbie - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008 Hi all! So in fact can we still use AVG 7.5 Free till 31 December? Well I suppose since it's a forum hosted by the AVG company then we should believe that to be true. But why are some of you getting an inaccessible popup notification that asks you to upgrade to version 8? Strange! -- Why not join my Blind Hobbyist group? To join, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: ryan Perdue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008 I found this while looking up info for a friend. http://freeforum.avg.com/read.php?1,123812,backpage=,sv Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008
Hi, have you tried Avast Debby? Or is it because you've paid for 7.5 and therefore you were hoping to upgrade to 8.0? Let me stress that if you've paid for an antivirus, and you're willing to commit to the yearly payments usually, then I have no objections. However, if you haven't, then why have loads of hassles with one free product when there's another one out there that's much easier to use? Just a thought. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Debbie G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008 I've downloaded the new AVG 8.0 and I don't like it at all. I wish I would have known that I could have kept 7.5 until December 31, 2008, because I would have. It is not Jaws user friendly at all and it's slowing my computer down. Debbie - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008 Hi all! So in fact can we still use AVG 7.5 Free till 31 December? Well I suppose since it's a forum hosted by the AVG company then we should believe that to be true. But why are some of you getting an inaccessible popup notification that asks you to upgrade to version 8? Strange! -- Why not join my Blind Hobbyist group? To join, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: ryan Perdue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 7.5 deadline now december 31 2008 I found this while looking up info for a friend. http://freeforum.avg.com/read.php?1,123812,backpage=,sv Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS
In my oppinion you can't expect any free version to be as good as the paid version. Avast isn't rated that well even though the free version might have more features than free AVG. That's just something to consider. I'm not trying to start an arguement about which is better though. On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:05:20 +0100, you wrote: Hi, this is why I went for Avast; it had more protection features, even the free home edition had more protection features than AVG Free. The only thing it won't protect you from with Avast Home is script blocking, but that's better than what you would be missing with AVG Free. Just my £0.02 worth. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] question regarding mail protocols
I need to know if there is anything special to be aware of if a person who has verizon internet but is not using them for email, for example GMail ETC. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] AVG, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Once again, messages on this list have saved me from a real handful of problems with the new version of AVG. I wanted to take a moment to thank the owners and the members for being honest and above board about problems they are having. For the moment, I'm sticking with Windows Live One Care. The only thing is that I hate establishing a passport if I don't need one. That's electronic blackmail or even coercion if you ask me. But then, if the program works with relatively little trouble, I believe it might be worth the aggravation. John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Usenet
Hi, all, Are there any programs that are JAWS-friendly that can help one access/search newsgroups/search for binary files on Usenet? In a hurry, so hope that made sense. Thanks, Erin Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding mail protocols
I've pasted the instructions for the generic mail program. *Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - requires SSL:* pop.gmail.com Use SSL: Yes Port: 995 *Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS:* smtp.gmail.com (use authentication) Use Authentication: Yes Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL) Port: 465 or 587 *Account Name: *your Gmail username (including '@gmail.com') *Email Address: * your full GMail email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
The deal as it would seem is that FS is trying to fix something that AVG broke. It's a shame that new and improved often means to leave us out in the cold for many software venders. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
I do the samething here too. Any changes you make in settings tend to loose focus as well and a Alt tab is in order. Once you are used to what is going on it's not hard to deal with. Rick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Accessible Search For The Visually-Impaired
Its proper name is rather, Google accessible Search for the Visually Impaired. - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JAWS-Users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Google For The Blind Here is the URL for Accessible Google For The Blind. http://labs.google.com/accessible/ Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] library area
While playing: It'll be in the Play submenu, the list view therein. Alt-v, e, then l, then tab around. If you want to access files on your computer in Windows media Player, then hit alt for file, then arrow up or down. Going up, the first (oldest) file or link stored in your library is just one above the Exit button. - Original Message - From: Estelita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] library area A library area to store or create my music playlists. When I read the Media player tutorial, it mentioned about the library area, but have no idea where to find. Thank you. Estelita - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] library area What library are you lookiing for? marilyn Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS
Hello Carlene: When checking ratings for programs some things to consider are when the tests were done, who performed the tests, and what versions of the programs were tested. I have read many recent reviews and found many lab tests by organizations who rate the free versions of antivirus programs showing a higher rating for the latest version of AVAST than the free AVG 8 and visa versa. I recently read a CNET editor's review that gave AVAST a better rating. One recent comparison test showed AVAST detecting 100% of viruses in the wild. In fact, AVAST has improved their product and recent test scores, and in some recent lab tests AVG 8 has not done as well. So, in some tests AVG might be rated higher than AVAST, but in a lot of recent tests that is not true. One thing that does concern me about the free AVG version 8 antivirus program is the lack of rootkit detection. The nature of rootkits make them so that the usual auto detection part of an antivirus program can not detect them. Without this protection a system is vulnerable to malicious programs that act as normal Windows operating system files. AVG did have a free anti-rootkit program that could be downloaded but I don't know if it is still available. Also I am not sure it worked on Vista systems. Take care Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS In my oppinion you can't expect any free version to be as good as the paid version. Avast isn't rated that well even though the free version might have more features than free AVG. That's just something to consider. I'm not trying to start an arguement about which is better though. On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:05:20 +0100, you wrote: Hi, this is why I went for Avast; it had more protection features, even the free home edition had more protection features than AVG Free. The only thing it won't protect you from with Avast Home is script blocking, but that's better than what you would be missing with AVG Free. Just my £0.02 worth. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Windows Mediaplayer question
What's the name of the necessary Codac needed for media player to play DVD'S, where can a person download it? Thank You. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
That's a shame indeed, David. Does anyone know what exactly Grisoft did to cause this problem? I'm not surprised that the program still doesn't work after the new version of JFW...only because I don't think Grisoft is working cooperatively with FS to fix this. New and improved...oh brother. There are some great programs out there that are totally and completely useless to us because they are new and improved. Take for example Registry Mechanic. It is a great little program; I'd give it a 9 out of 10 only because I have to use the JAWS cursor to navigate through everything. Other than that, it is a great program; I'd like to see JAWS support for Registry Mechanic but I'd like to see it for AVG first. But when we're talking about accessabillity of programs, I really shouldn't complain: FS does a heck of a great job. Look at the number of programs that work well with JAWS...quite a few of them. So, my point is...I'd like to see support for AVG 8 and to a lesser extent Registry Mechanic, but we musn't blame FS for that problem...they do a steller job. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:18 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS The deal as it would seem is that FS is trying to fix something that AVG broke. It's a shame that new and improved often means to leave us out in the cold for many software venders. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update;
Yeah, same here! Not running the latest jawws yet, but... - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; What's the problem? I use it here and it works well. I have to jaws cursor a little bit on the scanning screen but other than that it works very well for me. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; That's what I figured, but without a doubt it's not totally jaws' responsibility in this area, AVG must meet FS in the middle some place. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; No more error reports when opening AVG8, with the JAWS update, but no scripts yet, either. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness, my faintheartedness to Your boldness, my fear to Your faith. Then nothing can stop me. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; So if I understand this report correctly AVG 8 is more accessible question mark? David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: david whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; Enhancements in JAWS 9.0.2169 (May 2008) The following reported items were addressed in this update. All enhancements since the initial public beta release are included in the update. JAWS list of 2 items . AVG Anti-Virus 8.0 software no longer fails when you start the application while JAWS is running. . Resolved an issue where several customers reported installation error #824 when trying to install JAWS after running some a registry cleaner. This problem no longer occurs with versions 9.0.2169 and later. list end AOL Instant Messenger list of 1 items . The aimhelper.jsh file is now again included with JAWS 9.0. This file refers to constants and global variables used by the AOL Instant Messenger help file script. list end Microsoft Excel list of 1 items . JAWS now retains and reads column and row titles that you set in multiple Excel worksheets. Before, when you returned to the previous worksheet, JAWS would not announce column and row titles (CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+C and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+R). list end Microsoft Internet Explorer list of 2 items . After selecting the Skip to Content link on the Social Security Administration Web page, JAWS now consistently moves to the next link when you press TAB. . When you press ENTER to turn Forms Mode off, it now turns off as the Web page refreshes and updates. list end Microsoft Office list of 1 items . JAWS no longer repeats the column and row information when navigating by line (UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW) in a one row, one column table. list end Microsoft Outlook list of 3 items . When moving through a menu tree list of folders in Outlook, JAWS correctly announces folder names as you use the ARROW keys to navigate the list. Earlier, JAWS would say scroll down symbol or scroll up symbol instead of the folder name. . When navigating the list of folders in the Move Items dialog box (CTRL+SHIFT+V) and the Copy Items dialog box (CTRL+SHIFT+Y), JAWS no longer announces blank as you move from one folder to another. . E-mail messages no longer close when you select and copy message text using the APPLICATION Key's Copy command. list end Microsoft PowerPoint list of 1 items . JAWS correctly reads text that is typed into PowerPoint edit fields (for example, the File name field in the Open dialog box) when you use the Say Line command (INSERT+UP ARROW). Previously, JAWS would announce blank. list end Microsoft Word list of 2 items . JAWS now announces the Word Count dialog box statistics when you press ALT+T, W in Word 2007 or Word 2003 documents. . JAWS now recognizes and announces when text wraps to the next line in any text editor, word processor, or Web page when using the Say All command with the read new line character function turned on. The User Reads Text Containing New Line Character check box is in the Text Processing dialog box of the Configuration Manager. When it is selected, JAWS announces the words new line while reading and moving to the next line of text in sentences and paragraphs. list end http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS9-whats-new.asp#Enhancements04 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update;
Yeah!!! I lovee it! It also scans for spyware and extends the resident shield for spyware too! I wonder though, what does the remove as power user do? - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; I don't think some are giving it a fair chance. It's different than 7.5 but it does work well and it's really not difficult to use. I'm using it here and haven't encountered any problems except for the jaws crashing that the new update repaired. There is a bit more jaws cursoring than in 7.5 but not all the difficult in my opinion. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; I've personally not tried it out myself, I'm only going on what I have heard on here. My pro license doesn't run out for a couple of months yet. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; What's the problem? I use it here and it works well. I have to jaws cursor a little bit on the scanning screen but other than that it works very well for me. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; That's what I figured, but without a doubt it's not totally jaws' responsibility in this area, AVG must meet FS in the middle some place. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; No more error reports when opening AVG8, with the JAWS update, but no scripts yet, either. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness, my faintheartedness to Your boldness, my fear to Your faith. Then nothing can stop me. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; So if I understand this report correctly AVG 8 is more accessible question mark? David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: david whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; Enhancements in JAWS 9.0.2169 (May 2008) The following reported items were addressed in this update. All enhancements since the initial public beta release are included in the update. JAWS list of 2 items . AVG Anti-Virus 8.0 software no longer fails when you start the application while JAWS is running. . Resolved an issue where several customers reported installation error #824 when trying to install JAWS after running some a registry cleaner. This problem no longer occurs with versions 9.0.2169 and later. list end AOL Instant Messenger list of 1 items . The aimhelper.jsh file is now again included with JAWS 9.0. This file refers to constants and global variables used by the AOL Instant Messenger help file script. list end Microsoft Excel list of 1 items . JAWS now retains and reads column and row titles that you set in multiple Excel worksheets. Before, when you returned to the previous worksheet, JAWS would not announce column and row titles (CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+C and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+R). list end Microsoft Internet Explorer list of 2 items . After selecting the Skip to Content link on the Social Security Administration Web page, JAWS now consistently moves to the next link when you press TAB. . When you press ENTER to turn Forms Mode off, it now turns off as the Web page refreshes and updates. list end Microsoft Office list of 1 items . JAWS no longer repeats the column and row information when navigating by line (UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW) in a one row, one column table. list end Microsoft Outlook list of 3 items . When moving through a menu tree list of folders in Outlook, JAWS correctly announces folder names as you use the ARROW keys to navigate the list. Earlier, JAWS would say scroll down symbol or scroll up symbol instead of the folder name. . When navigating the list of folders in the Move Items dialog box (CTRL+SHIFT+V) and the Copy Items dialog box (CTRL+SHIFT+Y), JAWS no longer announces blank as you move from one folder to another. . E-mail messages no longer close when you select and copy message text using the APPLICATION Key's Copy command. list end Microsoft PowerPoint list of 1 items . JAWS correctly reads text
Re: [JAWS-Users] avast registering
Hi, Someone gave you a URL with no-break spaces. Not sure if this will work, but try removing all the nbsp; stuff at the end. HTH! - Original Message - From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] avast registering hi, everyone, how can I r egister the avast for free? I try to go to the http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.htmlnbsp;nbsp; but, it can not work? what c an I do? I've installed it and after that irt tell me to register it. and they wil send me the key through e-mail. bu,t I can not find that the register link. how can I do that? thanks for any help. Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming 深切哀悼 四川大地震遇難同胞，請前往 Yahoo!新聞 http://hk.news.yahoo.com/fc/news_fc_inquakech.html 了解更多地震捐款及相關資訊! Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Well they simply changed or modified the interface from what I understand. Thanks for the kind words toward FS, any vender can only do X amount, the software developer does have to do something themselves. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS That's a shame indeed, David. Does anyone know what exactly Grisoft did to cause this problem? I'm not surprised that the program still doesn't work after the new version of JFW...only because I don't think Grisoft is working cooperatively with FS to fix this. New and improved...oh brother. There are some great programs out there that are totally and completely useless to us because they are new and improved. Take for example Registry Mechanic. It is a great little program; I'd give it a 9 out of 10 only because I have to use the JAWS cursor to navigate through everything. Other than that, it is a great program; I'd like to see JAWS support for Registry Mechanic but I'd like to see it for AVG first. But when we're talking about accessabillity of programs, I really shouldn't complain: FS does a heck of a great job. Look at the number of programs that work well with JAWS...quite a few of them. So, my point is...I'd like to see support for AVG 8 and to a lesser extent Registry Mechanic, but we musn't blame FS for that problem...they do a steller job. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:18 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS The deal as it would seem is that FS is trying to fix something that AVG broke. It's a shame that new and improved often means to leave us out in the cold for many software venders. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have
Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8.0 and JAWS
How do I set scanning options in AVG 8? Also, my scan came up with nothing except like 30-something warnings. How do I figure out what those warnings are and do something about them? Thanks, Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 18:27 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; Yeah!!! I lovee it! It also scans for spyware and extends the resident shield for spyware too! I wonder though, what does the remove as power user do? - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; I don't think some are giving it a fair chance. It's different than 7.5 but it does work well and it's really not difficult to use. I'm using it here and haven't encountered any problems except for the jaws crashing that the new update repaired. There is a bit more jaws cursoring than in 7.5 but not all the difficult in my opinion. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; I've personally not tried it out myself, I'm only going on what I have heard on here. My pro license doesn't run out for a couple of months yet. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; What's the problem? I use it here and it works well. I have to jaws cursor a little bit on the scanning screen but other than that it works very well for me. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; That's what I figured, but without a doubt it's not totally jaws' responsibility in this area, AVG must meet FS in the middle some place. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; No more error reports when opening AVG8, with the JAWS update, but no scripts yet, either. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness, my faintheartedness to Your boldness, my fear to Your faith. Then nothing can stop me. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; So if I understand this report correctly AVG 8 is more accessible question mark? David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: david whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws update; Enhancements in JAWS 9.0.2169 (May 2008) The following reported items were addressed in this update. All enhancements since the initial public beta release are included in the update. JAWS list of 2 items . AVG Anti-Virus 8.0 software no longer fails when you start the application while JAWS is running. . Resolved an issue where several customers reported installation error #824 when trying to install JAWS after running some a registry cleaner. This problem no longer occurs with versions 9.0.2169 and later. list end AOL Instant Messenger list of 1 items . The aimhelper.jsh file is now again included with JAWS 9.0. This file refers to constants and global variables used by the AOL Instant Messenger help file script. list end Microsoft Excel list of 1 items . JAWS now retains and reads column and row titles that you set in multiple Excel worksheets. Before, when you returned to the previous worksheet, JAWS would not announce column and row titles (CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+C and CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+R). list end Microsoft Internet Explorer list of 2 items . After selecting the Skip to Content link on the Social Security Administration Web page, JAWS now consistently moves to the next link when you press TAB. . When you press ENTER to turn Forms Mode off, it now turns off as the Web page refreshes and updates. list end Microsoft Office list of 1 items . JAWS no longer repeats the column and row information when navigating by line (UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW) in a one row, one column table. list end Microsoft Outlook list of 3 items . When moving through a menu tree list of folders in Outlook, JAWS correctly announces folder names as you use the ARROW keys to navigate the list. Earlier, JAWS would say scroll down symbol or scroll up symbol instead of the
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Has anyone actually contacted AVG and asked them about this problem and how they plan to remedy it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 18:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Well they simply changed or modified the interface from what I understand. Thanks for the kind words toward FS, any vender can only do X amount, the software developer does have to do something themselves. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS That's a shame indeed, David. Does anyone know what exactly Grisoft did to cause this problem? I'm not surprised that the program still doesn't work after the new version of JFW...only because I don't think Grisoft is working cooperatively with FS to fix this. New and improved...oh brother. There are some great programs out there that are totally and completely useless to us because they are new and improved. Take for example Registry Mechanic. It is a great little program; I'd give it a 9 out of 10 only because I have to use the JAWS cursor to navigate through everything. Other than that, it is a great program; I'd like to see JAWS support for Registry Mechanic but I'd like to see it for AVG first. But when we're talking about accessabillity of programs, I really shouldn't complain: FS does a heck of a great job. Look at the number of programs that work well with JAWS...quite a few of them. So, my point is...I'd like to see support for AVG 8 and to a lesser extent Registry Mechanic, but we musn't blame FS for that problem...they do a steller job. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:18 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS The deal as it would seem is that FS is trying to fix something that AVG broke. It's a shame that new and improved often means to leave us out in the cold for many software venders. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that
[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Outlook 2003 and JAWS
Hi everyone, I am wondering if there are any recommended settings other than those presented in the Outlook 2003 helpful hints to make JAWS work better with it? I've just recently installed Outlook and noticed a few things: 1. When in the message list, the display names and subjects from emails cut off after what I believe is the first line of text. If I am receiving an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED], JAWS reads it as something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] The same thing happens with the subject. This doesn't happen in Outlook Express, so I'm guessing there is a way to correct this? 2. 2. When replying to messages, the reply window takes forever to load up. Why is this? Does it have anything to do with the setting to use Microsoft Word as the message editor? 3. 3. JAWS does not announce auto-completion of email addresses as I type; I thought there was an option for this but I can't find it. I'm sure that the answers are really simple; I'm just not sure of what they are. Is there a list of settings like the helpful hint on the JAWS-Users page? (Oh, and David, people do look at those!) Thanks, Michael Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Someone said that avg is working on this problem and that is why they have extended support for the avg antivirus paid until Dec. ``31. I agree that the jaws upgrade does not fix it but I give FS a gold star for trying. marilyn Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS not reading status line
Hi, The term status line just means the bottom line of the screen that offen contains status info. Try maximizing your program. HTH! - Original Message - From: S Farwaneh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:48 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS not reading status line Hello, I used to be able to read the status line with insert-pagedown; recently however and for reasons I cannot figure out, the insert-pagedown combination reads the start menu. when I press the key combination now I hear: start JAWS inbox file-name filename filename 9:37 p.m. (filename refers to the names of currently open files. How can I fix this to get Jaws to work properly as before? I am using JAWS 8 with windows XP and Office 2000. Thanks, Samira Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Usenet
Forte Agent works well with Usenet. It seems to work best with the newest upgrade of JAWS. On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:41:12 -0400, you wrote: Hi, all, Are there any programs that are JAWS-friendly that can help one access/search newsgroups/search for binary files on Usenet? In a hurry, so hope that made sense. Thanks, Erin Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Nope, I've been succesfully using AVG 8 for a couple weeks now. Thanks and HTH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at:
Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG works with jaws properly no longer have tounloadjaws!
Hi, I believe he was previously having wireless problems or something. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG works with jaws properly no longer have tounloadjaws! So if he is truly set to no mail he shouldn't be posting in my opinion. The no mail function is for going on vacation or the like because you won't be sending or receiving any messages either. Let me consider what is to be done. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Orhan Deniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG works with jaws properly no longer have to unloadjaws! Hi all lists, First of all, sorry for the cross-post, Secondly, don't flaim me on list because I am set to nomail so won't get your replies. I hope people won't mind this. However, in the latest jaws build, which was released today, AVG 8 no longer crashes with jaws when opening the \control panel. Hope this helped a lot of AVG 8.0 users, go to http://www.freedomscientific.com to download it, or use the check for updates feature. Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.com Twitter: Http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Usenet
I should say JAWS 9.0.2169. It also works well with JAWS 7.10. It's hot key based, and I love it, but with some versions of JAWS it likes to skip around a little bit if you read long email messages. The two versions I mentioned above don't seem to do this though. I'm running Forte Agent 4.2. I think the site to get it is www.forte.com and you do have to pay for it. I think it's $29 if you are a new customer. However they do give you a free 30 day trial. Free Agent is no longer available, but it didn't have much functionality anyway. On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:05:01 -0700, you wrote: Forte Agent works well with Usenet. It seems to work best with the newest upgrade of JAWS. On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:41:12 -0400, you wrote: Hi, all, Are there any programs that are JAWS-friendly that can help one access/search newsgroups/search for binary files on Usenet? In a hurry, so hope that made sense. Thanks, Erin Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS
As mentioned on these reviews, what about all the registry traces and non-active or non-executable files left behind by both products after clean up? How best to clean up the clean up? Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness, my faintheartedness to Your boldness, my fear to Your faith. Then nothing can stop me. - Original Message - From: Donald Marang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS PC Magazine recently reviewed both programs. Here is their review of Avast 4.8: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2282699,00.asp and their review of AVG 8.0: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2291382,00.asp I personally do not use either, since I just bought a Dell laptop, which came with 3 years of Trend Micro PC - Cillin. I will have to upgrade the AVG 7.5 on my kids computer to one of those soon though. Donald Marang - Original Message - From: Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS Hello, In this email you say that Avast isn't rated that well. What web site can I go to so I can check the ratings of some of these anti virus programs? Take care, Lisa - Original Message - From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS In my oppinion you can't expect any free version to be as good as the paid version. Avast isn't rated that well even though the free version might have more features than free AVG. That's just something to consider. I'm not trying to start an arguement about which is better though. On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:05:20 +0100, you wrote: Hi, this is why I went for Avast; it had more protection features, even the free home edition had more protection features than AVG Free. The only thing it won't protect you from with Avast Home is script blocking, but that's better than what you would be missing with AVG Free. Just my £0.02 worth. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Now this is the question to be or not to be? Who should be on top of making sure their clients are satisfied, the paid ventor, or the ventor giving their products away free? Mind u, the reason the free stuff is to entice one to buy the product of the ventor letting one have a down grade free. With a little effort on the part of the person wanting to use the free products, they usually can find all kinds of documentation to help them use the product successfully. And with the help of others on a list like this, who can go wrong? RJ - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 18:17 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS The deal as it would seem is that FS is trying to fix something that AVG broke. It's a shame that new and improved often means to leave us out in the cold for many software venders. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Listening to what we all think about different anti-virus programs and what the experts say, A good free version such as avast and AVG usually will afford all the protection a home user needs. But who wants to believe the experts? But being cheap and liking AVG 8 with the latest JFWS... smiling, RJ - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 16:45 Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
First the answer is yes. Second they claim to be working on the problem. Third my hat is off to F S, for they seen a problem and fixed it so AVG is workable on this computer anyway. RJ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 19:37 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Has anyone actually contacted AVG and asked them about this problem and how they plan to remedy it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 18:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Well they simply changed or modified the interface from what I understand. Thanks for the kind words toward FS, any vender can only do X amount, the software developer does have to do something themselves. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS That's a shame indeed, David. Does anyone know what exactly Grisoft did to cause this problem? I'm not surprised that the program still doesn't work after the new version of JFW...only because I don't think Grisoft is working cooperatively with FS to fix this. New and improved...oh brother. There are some great programs out there that are totally and completely useless to us because they are new and improved. Take for example Registry Mechanic. It is a great little program; I'd give it a 9 out of 10 only because I have to use the JAWS cursor to navigate through everything. Other than that, it is a great program; I'd like to see JAWS support for Registry Mechanic but I'd like to see it for AVG first. But when we're talking about accessabillity of programs, I really shouldn't complain: FS does a heck of a great job. Look at the number of programs that work well with JAWS...quite a few of them. So, my point is...I'd like to see support for AVG 8 and to a lesser extent Registry Mechanic, but we musn't blame FS for that problem...they do a steller job. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:18 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS The deal as it would seem is that FS is trying to fix something that AVG broke. It's a shame that new and improved often means to leave us out in the cold for many software venders. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of
[JAWS-Users] error reporting
Right off of the tips and tricks page folks. http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/text/Windows/ComputerTips.html David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
Rick, How I have to agree with your below comments. I would also suggest that one download the AVG version 8 Free manual to get a feel for the program. Using the alt + tab and JFWS cursor and menu bar can get one around the program nicely. RJ - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 18:18 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I do the samething here too. Any changes you make in settings tend to loose focus as well and a Alt tab is in order. Once you are used to what is going on it's not hard to deal with. Rick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS I was hesitant to say that in case I was the only one who noticed this being a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 17:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS Hi, As I've said in other posts, if you change focus right!!! after pressing enter to open the AVG interface, it works fine, but you need the jaws cursor for some of it. HTH. - Original Message - From: John Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS These programs are like the flavors at Baskin Robins, a well known ice-cream vendor in the U. S. Or, if you prefer, different strokes for different folks. Chris, you have a real issue with AVG at any time. I must point out that the best way to get protection from any of these packages is to purchase the paid for versions. To quote Will Rogers, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch! I believe that the manufacturers offer a free version of their products because they just might encourage someone to buy a better product if they get reasonable success from the free software. For those who can't afford the cost, having some kind of free anti-virus protection is worlds better than having none at all. However, my concern is about how these versions work with Jaws. Apparently, Freedom Scientific agrees and they are trying to deal with the conflict between Jaws and AVG. Why would they do this? Well, for one thing, of all anti-virus programs available here in the U. S. AVG is rated one of the best. It is also the one purchased more frequently by computer users. Compared to Avast, AVG outsells that program at about 25 to 1. Is it a better program in the free version? Not necessarily. But when it comes to the professional edition, there are very few programs out there that offer better compatibility and ease of operation. That was true of AVG until this latest issue. Unfortunately, AVG seems to have taken a page from the Norton book of dirty tricks and inadvertently created something which doesn't function with Jaws very well at all. That should be our primary concern here. I am reading conflicting messages. Some say that with the new version of Jaws, AVG works fine. Others say that it still is giving them problems. Before I do something I'm going to regret, I need to know which is correct. 1. I have loaded the newest version of Jaws. 2. I have uninstalled AVG 7.5 but I have retained the .EXE file and my code key. 3. If I load AVG 8 now, will it function correctly or will it crash as some have indicated? Chris has his opinion about AVG but I'm a bit concerned that he is trumpeting his personal dislike for the software and ignoring the essential problem we are having. The fact is that at the best of times, AVAST is a pain in the neck. Some of the functions have never been accessible. It might be a fine program but it has never worked as well as the older versions of AVG where compatibility with Jaws is concerned. That isn't opinion ladies and gentlemen, it's simple fact. I am not criticizing AVAST in any way. It just doesn't work that well with Jaws. That goes for older versions as well as the most current one. As I said in the beginning, everyone has their preference. I want to find an anti-virus program with excellent ratings which will work well with Jaws. That's all people. I'm not interested in creating a fire fight between those who like AVAST and those who prefer AVG. I just want to know. Don't you? John Justice My job feeds my family, music feeds my soul. PERSONAL E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email
Re: [JAWS-Users] error reporting
I wonder what this is in response to. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:18 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] error reporting Right off of the tips and tricks page folks. http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/text/Windows/ComputerTips.html David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Email Spam Question Gmail settings
Hi, A friend told me he had heard of a web site whereby you provide your email address password every so often it logs in deletes your Spam logs out. Does anybody know what site he is referring too as I get over 100 Spam messages a day sense I've had to change mail hosting providers. Also Regarding Gmail I've pasted the instructions for the generic mail program. *Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - requires SSL:* pop.gmail.com Use SSL: Yes Port: 995 *Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS:* smtp.gmail.com (use authentication) Use Authentication: Yes Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL) Port: 465 or 587 *Account Name: *your Gmail username (including '@gmail.com') *Email Address: * your full Gmail email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *Password: *your Gmail password If you need further assistance don't hesitate to Email. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS
Hi Brian, Does the free version of AVAST include this rootkit program that you are talking about? Take care, Lisa - Original Message - From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS Hello Carlene: When checking ratings for programs some things to consider are when the tests were done, who performed the tests, and what versions of the programs were tested. I have read many recent reviews and found many lab tests by organizations who rate the free versions of antivirus programs showing a higher rating for the latest version of AVAST than the free AVG 8 and visa versa. I recently read a CNET editor's review that gave AVAST a better rating. One recent comparison test showed AVAST detecting 100% of viruses in the wild. In fact, AVAST has improved their product and recent test scores, and in some recent lab tests AVG 8 has not done as well. So, in some tests AVG might be rated higher than AVAST, but in a lot of recent tests that is not true. One thing that does concern me about the free AVG version 8 antivirus program is the lack of rootkit detection. The nature of rootkits make them so that the usual auto detection part of an antivirus program can not detect them. Without this protection a system is vulnerable to malicious programs that act as normal Windows operating system files. AVG did have a free anti-rootkit program that could be downloaded but I don't know if it is still available. Also I am not sure it worked on Vista systems. Take care Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FREE AVG ANTIVIRUS In my oppinion you can't expect any free version to be as good as the paid version. Avast isn't rated that well even though the free version might have more features than free AVG. That's just something to consider. I'm not trying to start an arguement about which is better though. On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:05:20 +0100, you wrote: Hi, this is why I went for Avast; it had more protection features, even the free home edition had more protection features than AVG Free. The only thing it won't protect you from with Avast Home is script blocking, but that's better than what you would be missing with AVG Free. Just my £0.02 worth. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] avast registering
Hi There! If someone could help? With which resident knows avast more, than avira? And which do you recommend for use? God bless all! Lali e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: b.lali86 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] error reporting
I forget actually who was asking for this information earlier today. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bob J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] error reporting I wonder what this is in response to. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:18 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] error reporting Right off of the tips and tricks page folks. http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/text/Windows/ComputerTips.html David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION, FREE VERSIONS
I like AVG8 works fine here. Phyllis, Emmy dog, and the kitties, Simon and Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is also my MSN address. -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1466 - Release Date: 5/25/2008 6:49 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] library area
Hi Flor, Actually I found it by just playing around. Thank you for your message, Estelita - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] library area While playing: It'll be in the Play submenu, the list view therein. Alt-v, e, then l, then tab around. If you want to access files on your computer in Windows media Player, then hit alt for file, then arrow up or down. Going up, the first (oldest) file or link stored in your library is just one above the Exit button. - Original Message - From: Estelita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] library area A library area to store or create my music playlists. When I read the Media player tutorial, it mentioned about the library area, but have no idea where to find. Thank you. Estelita - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] library area What library are you lookiing for? marilyn Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
