Re: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after sending, my provider says:

2008-10-01 Thread Andrew Head

Karen, your message came through to the list
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after sending,my 
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Will not send: delivery status notification failed permanently.
So, thank you to anyone that has not heard from me, appreciate
all the answers, and good help.  Karen

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[JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread mostafa almahdy
Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
-- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting 
though.


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- Original Message - 
From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
--
BEST REGARD
IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE



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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding the list being slow

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin
It is being run that way if you consider it's included with my web hosting 
account.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding the list being slow


David
Way do you not run the list on a own server?


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Ämne: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding the list being slow


If all goes according to what I am understanding then everything should be
resolved over night and we'll start a new month back to our normal delivery
in a timely manner. So let's all hope so folks, I am for sure. With luck
this business of major delays will be behind us tomorrow.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] using adobe acrobat with jaws

2008-10-01 Thread Chris Hallsworth
You're probably viewing a scanned image of a PDF document, meaning the text 
has been scanned in as an image. You'll therefore need an OCR programme like 
Openbook or Kurzweil 1000 in order to both recognize and read the recognized 
text.


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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using adobe acrobat with jaws



Good afternoon everyone:
I was wondering if someone can help me with a small problem i am having 
with
adobe acrobat using it with jaws.  Every time i open up a abobe acrobat 
pdf
file it is telling me there is an empty doccument.  I am using jaws 
version

9 with adobe acrobat reader 9.  Is there any settings i need to use to get
jaws to work properly with acrobat 9

wesley from new jersey.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after sending, my provider says:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
thank you.  yup, that's good, but someone tried to contact me, 
and I got that message.  Cannot return theirs.  Karen



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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:10:09 +1000
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me 

after sending,my provider says:


Karen, your message came through to the list
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:52 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after 

sending,my

provider says:




Will not send: delivery status notification failed permanently.
So, thank you to anyone that has not heard from me, appreciate
all the answers, and good help.  Karen



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting 
though.


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From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
--
BEST REGARD
IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Dale Leavens

There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it a 
shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness community 
become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back into our little 
corners.



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting 
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From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
--
BEST REGARD
IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE



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[JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws10 when reading email in Outlook 2007

2008-10-01 Thread Stuart
Ihave jaws automatically read an email when I open it but when Jaws starts
reading most messages I get the error message unknown function call   to
quick nav key trapping and then the error message is spelt.  Has anyone lse
had this problem 

Thanks in advance 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin
I did know about that list, it would be nice is all if we were able to 
expand is all.

David Ferrin
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

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Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it a 
shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness community 
become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back into our 
little corners.



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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting 
though.


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From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws10 when reading email in Outlook 2007

2008-10-01 Thread Paul Gottshall
I had kind of the same problem what I did is to uninstall jaws 10 and also
uninstall the user settings that is in the uninstall jaws.  An  download the
beta from the website and reinstall that solved the problem. 

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Ihave jaws automatically read an email when I open it but when Jaws starts
reading most messages I get the error message unknown function call   to
quick nav key trapping and then the error message is spelt.  Has anyone lse
had this problem 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Annette Carr
I think it is reasonable for this list to include some scripting.  But I do
not see where a list like this one would be designed to replace a list that
specializes in a topic.  This list generates a lot of traffic now, I'm
guessing that expanding to all things scripting would really increase
traffic.

Just my 2 cents.

Annette
  

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

I did know about that list, it would be nice is all if we were able to
expand is all.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it 
 a shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness 
 community become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back 
 into our little corners.


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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
 David Ferrin
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
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 Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for 
 scripting though.

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 Hello everybody:
 first  of all: i would like to introduce myself my name is mostafa 
 almahdy  i've to start my scripting lessons.
 actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
 that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to 
 make it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  
 particular one.
 that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
  am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course 
 fromJAWS mailing list am waiting  for reply from some one elss 
 mostafa almahdy
 --
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 IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin
The extra traffic might be painful for those of us who read every message, 
but in no way could it replace a list dedicated to scripting exclusively.

David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Annette Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



I think it is reasonable for this list to include some scripting.  But I do
not see where a list like this one would be designed to replace a list 
that

specializes in a topic.  This list generates a lot of traffic now, I'm
guessing that expanding to all things scripting would really increase
traffic.

Just my 2 cents.

Annette


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

I did know about that list, it would be nice is all if we were able to
expand is all.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it
a shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness
community become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back
into our little corners.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for
scripting though.

--
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself my name is mostafa
almahdy  i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to
make it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with
particular one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

2008-10-01 Thread aiden gardiner

Karren,

That may not have anything to do with windows automatic updates, as the 
check is only triggered at a specified time.


Aiden
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Thank you.  I believe mine's turned on as when computer comes on
it takes quite a while to start up, get to the windows is ready
Karen


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Karren,



SP3 is a major security update for windows xp.  it contains all

updates since

service pack 2 was released.  if you have automatic updates

turned on, it

may've already been installed for you automatically.



Aiden
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Oh I wish I knew more about computers now.  Please, what is sp3?
Karen and Harpo



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Yes, install it.  No JAWS problems will or should result.
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Hi all, need an opinion as to whether I should install that SP3

from

microsoft that I keep getting a notice to do, but hesitant as

wouldn't want

to have problems with jaws.  I still have jaws 7 and Win XP home.

Thanks for

your input.  Barbara
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread aiden gardiner

Hi,

Check on the training downloads page of the freedom scientific website. 
there's an excellent scripting manual up there, which i'm currently reading 
myself.


Aiden
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[JAWS-Users] memo regarding delivery time

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin
I am seeing an enormous improvement in this area as of this morning. I hope it 
is the same for the rest of you folks. Trust me it was no small effort and it's 
not quite finished but the list seems to be back in the pink as the saying 
goes. Thank you all for your indulgence. I'm getting around a 5 second turn 
around on message delivery at the moment. I don't mean to clutter the list, I 
just always try and keep everybody up to speed is all.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to learn scripting

2008-10-01 Thread Jitendra
Hello david, its been great that you want to expand and start this new 
topic on our very own and growing list.

my first question:
I want to assign the application key to a script, how I do that?
Thank you, Jitendra.
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You wrote:
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but in no way could it replace a list dedicated to scripting exclusively.
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[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

2008-10-01 Thread Moderator

Here are the list guidelines, all members should read them carefully!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to learn scripting

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

I believe it would be assigned just like any other key.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to learn scripting


Hello david, its been great that you want to expand and start this new 
topic on our very own and growing list.

my first question:
I want to assign the application key to a script, how I do that?
Thank you, Jitendra.
Skype:
Jeet.delhi
You wrote:
The extra traffic might be painful for those of us who read every message,
but in no way could it replace a list dedicated to scripting exclusively.
David Ferrin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to learn scripting

2008-10-01 Thread Demetry Yousifidou
At FreeList.org there is a list only for scripting in JAWS it called
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Larry Stansifer
I agree especially for those of us who don't speak scripting.

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I think it is reasonable for this list to include some scripting.  But I do
not see where a list like this one would be designed to replace a list that
specializes in a topic.  This list generates a lot of traffic now, I'm
guessing that expanding to all things scripting would really increase
traffic.

Just my 2 cents.

Annette
  

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I did know about that list, it would be nice is all if we were able to
expand is all. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you've already made
other plans.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

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 Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it
 a shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness 
 community become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back 
 into our little corners.


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 I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself. 
 David Ferrin Life is what happens after you've already made other 
 plans.
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 Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for
 scripting though.

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 Hello everybody:
 first  of all: i would like to introduce myself my name is mostafa
 almahdy  i've to start my scripting lessons.
 actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
 that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to 
 make it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  
 particular one.
 that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
  am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course 
 fromJAWS mailing list am waiting  for reply from some one elss 
 mostafa almahdy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Larry Stansifer
Aiden,

Do they want money for it?

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Hi,

Check on the training downloads page of the freedom scientific website. 
there's an excellent scripting manual up there, which i'm currently reading 
myself.

Aiden
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 Hello everybody:
 first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
 my name is mostafa almahdy
  i've to start my scripting lessons.
 actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are: 
 that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make 
 it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular 
 one. that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
  am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
 fromJAWS mailing list
 am waiting  for reply from some one elss
 mostafa almahdy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

My point is that scripting falls with in the guidelines as being on topic.
David Ferrin
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I agree especially for those of us who don't speak scripting.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


I think it is reasonable for this list to include some scripting.  But I 
do
not see where a list like this one would be designed to replace a list 
that

specializes in a topic.  This list generates a lot of traffic now, I'm
guessing that expanding to all things scripting would really increase
traffic.

Just my 2 cents.

Annette


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

I did know about that list, it would be nice is all if we were able to
expand is all. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you've already made
other plans.
- Original Message -
From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it
a shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness
community become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back
into our little corners.


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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin Life is what happens after you've already made other
plans.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for
scripting though.

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Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself my name is mostafa
almahdy  i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to
make it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with
particular one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
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[JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS 9 and IE 7

2008-10-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
Hi list,

I have a problem with web pages reading in IE 7. JAWS will read the home
page just fine, but if I hit on a link on that page, the next page won't
read.  JFW only reads the title bar.  You can read some of the page with
the JAWS cursor, or by hitting INSERT-B, but nothing is read when using
the arrow keys or say all. Hitting F5 to refresh the page does not
help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Roberts

Yeah that would be cool.
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I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting 
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
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Re: [JAWS-Users] assigning application key to a script

2008-10-01 Thread Jitendra

Sorry my friend, it doesn't,
when you press application in script manager in assign key box, it makes 
nothing.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Roberts
It's broken though, they put to many commas in the example of how to use the 
virtual buffer.



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Hi,

Check on the training downloads page of the freedom scientific website. 
there's an excellent scripting manual up there, which i'm currently 
reading myself.


Aiden
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Hello everybody:
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 i've to start my scripting lessons.
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that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Roberts
No, it's free. And if you have I think jaws 6 or later, you have some copy 
of it in both chm and text if I remember right.


HTH.
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Aiden,

Do they want money for it?

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Hi,

Check on the training downloads page of the freedom scientific website.
there's an excellent scripting manual up there, which i'm currently 
reading

myself.

Aiden
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Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
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 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one. that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to learn scripting

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Roberts
I found that one a long time ago I think, but it was in some other language 
and not even the awesome Google could figure it out. *grins*



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At FreeList.org there is a list only for scripting in JAWS it called
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread aiden gardiner
Nope, it's completely free, delivered in the same format as the jaws help 
system, basically, the jaws help system and the scripting manual use the 
.chm format.


Aiden
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Aiden,

Do they want money for it?

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Hi,

Check on the training downloads page of the freedom scientific website.
there's an excellent scripting manual up there, which i'm currently 
reading

myself.

Aiden
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Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one. that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS 9 and IE 7

2008-10-01 Thread Chris Hallsworth
That's bad. I'm not having any of that here, even if I'm using IE8 beta 2. 
Try a repair of JAWS.


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Hi list,

I have a problem with web pages reading in IE 7. JAWS will read the home
page just fine, but if I hit on a link on that page, the next page won't
read.  JFW only reads the title bar.  You can read some of the page with
the JAWS cursor, or by hitting INSERT-B, but nothing is read when using
the arrow keys or say all. Hitting F5 to refresh the page does not
help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] assigning application key to a script

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

My bad, but it was only a guess.
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Sorry my friend, it doesn't,
when you press application in script manager in assign key box, it makes 
nothing.

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[JAWS-Users] (no subject)

2008-10-01 Thread mostafa almahdy
HI:
i already know that's there is a groop of JAWS scripting, but i think
that's only for professional users to discuss issue  of scripting
not for education  purpose
 anyway: i'll try to move on
but  i would like to have my starting point of learning scripts
because am sure that JAWS scripting groop is not created for my case:
it's for otherwise who are a scripters   clevers in that issue.
for that:
i will leave my  private contact information: if one of you have to
teach me the scripting,   it would be a pleasure!
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that's not a problem
but please don't being late:  because it's necessary issue
mostafa  almahdy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Bob J.
I agree with Dale.  We already have people who ask questions about JAWS on
the blind computing list and people who ask questions not related to JAWS on
the JAWS users list thus unnecessarily increasing the traffic on both lists.
Seeking answers to questions on a list that specializes in the topic of
interest by the questioner is the most efficient use of the band width and
saves a lot of time for those not concerned.

Bob




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There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

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Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it a
shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness community
become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back into our little
corners.


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 I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
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 Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting
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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 Hello everybody:
 first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
 my name is mostafa almahdy
  i've to start my scripting lessons.
 actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
 that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
 it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
 one.
 that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
  am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
 fromJAWS mailing list
 am waiting  for reply from some one elss
 mostafa almahdy
 -- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] always remember to include a subject line please

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

Note from management.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] (no subject)



HI:
i already know that's there is a groop of JAWS scripting, but i think
that's only for professional users to discuss issue  of scripting
not for education  purpose
anyway: i'll try to move on
but  i would like to have my starting point of learning scripts
because am sure that JAWS scripting groop is not created for my case:
it's for otherwise who are a scripters   clevers in that issue.
for that:
i will leave my  private contact information: if one of you have to
teach me the scripting,   it would be a pleasure!
you can drop me an email by senting:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
msn:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype:
my_speaker
--
if  some one elss wish to teach me  writing scripting  how to operate
them, use one of those or use all my contact information
that's not a problem
but please don't being late:  because it's necessary issue
mostafa  almahdy
www.jaws-users.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS 9 and IE 7

2008-10-01 Thread Flor Lynch
What specifically do you mean by 'the home page'?  I don't have that 
problem, where Google is my home page.

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS 9 and IE 7


Hi list,

I have a problem with web pages reading in IE 7. JAWS will read the home
page just fine, but if I hit on a link on that page, the next page won't
read.  JFW only reads the title bar.  You can read some of the page with
the JAWS cursor, or by hitting INSERT-B, but nothing is read when using
the arrow keys or say all. Hitting F5 to refresh the page does not
help.

Andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding delivery time

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Roberts

Cool, thanks for the info!
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding delivery time


I am seeing an enormous improvement in this area as of this morning. I hope 
it is the same for the rest of you folks. Trust me it was no small effort 
and it's not quite finished but the list seems to be back in the pink as 
the saying goes. Thank you all for your indulgence. I'm getting around a 5 
second turn around on message delivery at the moment. I don't mean to 
clutter the list, I just always try and keep everybody up to speed is all.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Flor Lynch
People are confusing issues here.  The list owner is right on when he points 
out that scripting is on topic for this list.  There's a thing called 
education as well, and there are different levels of education to which 
people may aspire.  Not everybody can be accommodated in one school.  So it 
is with scripting  - a fundamental tool of JAWS - and with JAWS itself.  You 
also have different lists for JAWS, some based on their regions of the 
world, others based on user movements, as it were.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


I agree with Dale.  We already have people who ask questions about JAWS on
the blind computing list and people who ask questions not related to JAWS on
the JAWS users list thus unnecessarily increasing the traffic on both lists.
Seeking answers to questions on a list that specializes in the topic of
interest by the questioner is the most efficient use of the band width and
saves a lot of time for those not concerned.

Bob




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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it a
shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness community
become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back into our little
corners.


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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
 David Ferrin
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting
 though.

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 - Original Message - 
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 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 Hello everybody:
 first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
 my name is mostafa almahdy
  i've to start my scripting lessons.
 actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
 that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
 it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
 one.
 that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
  am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
 fromJAWS mailing list
 am waiting  for reply from some one elss
 mostafa almahdy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] using adobe acrobat with jaws

2008-10-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
This is probably because you are reading a document that somebody
scanned, as opposed to a document that was composed with Acrobat.  It is
not real text, just a picture of text.  Your screen reader will not read
it, just like it would not read a sign in a photograph.  You can try
performing OCR on the document with a program like Open Book or K1000 or
any OCR program that will convert the results to readable text, but your
milage will vary.  Sometimes that produces a readable document, but
often it just produces garbage.

Andy
 

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BURDEN
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] using adobe acrobat with jaws

Good afternoon everyone:
I was wondering if someone can help me with a small problem i am having
with adobe acrobat using it with jaws.  Every time i open up a abobe
acrobat pdf file it is telling me there is an empty doccument.  I am
using jaws version
9 with adobe acrobat reader 9.  Is there any settings i need to use to
get jaws to work properly with acrobat 9
 
wesley from new jersey.
 
 
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[JAWS-Users] new moderator added to the team

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin
This list is approaching 400 members again and coupled with some personal 
family business that will keep me away some what for the next several weeks 
Alex Stone has agreed to help out on here along with the blind computing list. 
He's been very helpful on there and I'm sure he'll bring his management style 
over here as well. So now with no less than 5 of us somebody will most likely 
be around almost all of the time or very nearly at least. I'll be in and out 
but for a large part the team will be running the show through October at 
least, so this is my way of publicly thanking all of them for their help in 
keeping things going smoothly. I couldn't do it without their help and wouldn't 
even try. No need to reply to this message, I'm just again keeping everybody in 
the loop is all, catch up soon gang.
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws Scripting

2008-10-01 Thread Lennie Rinaldi

Hi,

I have to disagree with you. The Jaws Scripting at Freelist.org is a 
good starting point to learn scripting. There are professional people 
who knows how to script, and there are intermediate and beginners 
there too. Everyone is there to help a beginner and if you have any 
questions while learning, they can help you in case you don't 
understand something or help you debug your script if it does not 
compile successfully.


I was a beginner too and I still am, but I was able to write simple 
scripts and some of them would not have worked if it wasn't for the 
help from that list. I particularly needed a script for a one of my 
program that would not have functioned correctly without it.


Give it a chance and if you feel that is not the way to go, you can 
always unsubscribe.


Lennie

At 01:13 PM 10/1/2008, you wrote:

HI:
i already know that's there is a groop of JAWS scripting, but i think
that's only for professional users to discuss issue  of scripting
not for education  purpose
 anyway: i'll try to move on
but  i would like to have my starting point of learning scripts
because am sure that JAWS scripting groop is not created for my case:
it's for otherwise who are a scripters   clevers in that issue.
for that:
i will leave my  private contact information: if one of you have to
teach me the scripting,   it would be a pleasure!
you can drop me an email by senting:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
msn:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype:
my_speaker
--
if  some one elss wish to teach me  writing scripting  how to operate
them, use one of those or use all my contact information
that's not a problem
but please don't being late:  because it's necessary issue
mostafa  almahdy
www.jaws-users.com

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[JAWS-Users] Web search, and book reading?

2008-10-01 Thread rcham27

Hi all;
 I have XP home and 9.0

For an adult study, I have assigned pages of a book to read.
The book is the Catholic catechism.
I can pull up the book on the web, but can not find how to get to the 
appropriate page number.


The class is mild and only a few pages are assigned each week. I feel the 
readings will be scattered throughout the book.


My question is how to locate the page number of this particular book.

I have been able to find the table of contents but no page number is listed.
Also, as I read through the book, I have no idea what page I am on.
I have tried using the JAWS key to navigate the site but no page number is 
listed.


Thank you for any help. 



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[JAWS-Users] Switching synthesizer language.

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Rossi
When working with another language, I switch to the Eloquence synth, then 
set the synth language to, Italian in my case.  However, when using the PC 
cursor in WordPad, JAWS still speaks with the English language phonyms. 
When using the JAWS cursor, or typing, JAWS speaks with the Italian 
language phonyms.  Is this expected behavior?  Is this a bug?  Am I 
missing another setting that I need to set so that the PC cursor will also 
pronounce the foreign language properly?


Thanks much.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Switching synthesizer language.

2008-10-01 Thread Alex Stone
Dan, Sounds like a bug to me.
Cheers
Alex

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: 01 October 2008 21:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Switching synthesizer language.

When working with another language, I switch to the Eloquence synth, then 
set the synth language to, Italian in my case.  However, when using the PC 
cursor in WordPad, JAWS still speaks with the English language phonyms. 
When using the JAWS cursor, or typing, JAWS speaks with the Italian 
language phonyms.  Is this expected behavior?  Is this a bug?  Am I 
missing another setting that I need to set so that the PC cursor will also 
pronounce the foreign language properly?

Thanks much.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessing balloons

2008-10-01 Thread cutolo.albert

Hi John,

I thought I heard a long time ago, that it was the windows key plus the b 
key but ifI'm wrong, then I'm sorry fore the miss information. 




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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessing balloons

2008-10-01 Thread Alex Stone
Yes, I remember hearing that (a couple of jaws releases ago I think), but it
never seemed to work properly.
Cheers
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I thought I heard a long time ago, that it was the windows key plus the b 
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws scripting

2008-10-01 Thread Alex Stone
Mustafa, Please don't send messages to the list with no subject.
Cheers
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HI:
i already know that's there is a groop of JAWS scripting, but i think
that's only for professional users to discuss issue  of scripting
not for education  purpose
 anyway: i'll try to move on
but  i would like to have my starting point of learning scripts
because am sure that JAWS scripting groop is not created for my case:
it's for otherwise who are a scripters   clevers in that issue.
for that:
i will leave my  private contact information: if one of you have to
teach me the scripting,   it would be a pleasure!
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if  some one elss wish to teach me  writing scripting  how to operate
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that's not a problem
but please don't being late:  because it's necessary issue
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[JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

2008-10-01 Thread Leonard Morris
I am using ms word 2003. I have created a file of various articles from 
newspapers in order to read them later. However, when I try to separate the 
articles with  symbol, soon as I finish typing the symbols and hit the 
enter key the *** symbols get erased. I've unchecked several items in the 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new moderator added to the team

2008-10-01 Thread mattias
How to join the blind computing list

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Skickat: den 1 oktober 2008 20:43
Till: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Ämne: [JAWS-Users] new moderator added to the team


This list is approaching 400 members again and coupled with some personal
family business that will keep me away some what for the next several weeks
Alex Stone has agreed to help out on here along with the blind computing
list. He's been very helpful on there and I'm sure he'll bring his
management style over here as well. So now with no less than 5 of us
somebody will most likely be around almost all of the time or very nearly at
least. I'll be in and out but for a large part the team will be running the
show through October at least, so this is my way of publicly thanking all of
them for their help in keeping things going smoothly. I couldn't do it
without their help and wouldn't even try. No need to reply to this message,
I'm just again keeping everybody in the loop is all, catch up soon gang.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

2008-10-01 Thread Flor Lynch
Press the spacebar after you input the stars, before you press enter.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


I am using ms word 2003. I have created a file of various articles from 
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closed the document but the problem still exists.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

2008-10-01 Thread Leonard Morris
That solution crossed my mind but I was so frustrated I could not get the 
situation to correct itself after trying so hard I didn't reconsider it 
again. (smile) You are right that will work but do you know why it has to be 
done that way? Thanks.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003



Press the spacebar after you input the stars, before you press enter.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


I am using ms word 2003. I have created a file of various articles from
newspapers in order to read them later. However, when I try to separate 
the

articles with  symbol, soon as I finish typing the symbols and hit the
enter key the *** symbols get erased. I've unchecked several items in the
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closed the document but the problem still exists.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

2008-10-01 Thread Flor Lynch
Maybe: Word or other programs may use the star unspaced and repeated (twice 
or more) symbol as a code for something - think of the hiding of passwords, 
even.  However, you could also do it as follows.  leave a number of blank 
linds, and on one of these blanks type  .  Then down-arrow to the last 
blank line.  I believe you could also do ** ** [leaving a space between the 
stars].  In other words, you can have as many stars as you want provided 
that you put space after every couple.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


That solution crossed my mind but I was so frustrated I could not get the
situation to correct itself after trying so hard I didn't reconsider it
again. (smile) You are right that will work but do you know why it has to be
done that way? Thanks.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


 Press the spacebar after you input the stars, before you press enter.

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:57 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


 I am using ms word 2003. I have created a file of various articles from
 newspapers in order to read them later. However, when I try to separate
 the
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 enter key the *** symbols get erased. I've unchecked several items in the
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS10.0 beta release!

2008-10-01 Thread mostafa almahdy
HI:
i've this problem since yesterday   evening: i downloaded JAWS10.0
 runned the installation: while it's installing, i heard a message says:
sorry but this version has been expired please contact
freedomscientific technical support  ok button
please if some one elss have  the same, just notify me what did you do.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS10.0 beta release!

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

Download the beta again is all you need to do.
David Ferrin
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From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS10.0 beta release!



HI:
i've this problem since yesterday   evening: i downloaded JAWS10.0
 runned the installation: while it's installing, i heard a message says:
sorry but this version has been expired please contact
freedomscientific technical support  ok button
please if some one elss have  the same, just notify me what did you do.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS10.0 beta release!

2008-10-01 Thread northstar1950
hmmm, sounds like you may have downloaded beta 1 and you need to 
download beta 2. so go back and try again and make sure you are 
getting J10.0.396.exe.

Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/1/2008 04:59 PM, mostafa almahdy said:

HI:
i've this problem since yesterday   evening: i downloaded JAWS10.0
 runned the installation: while it's installing, i heard a message says:
sorry but this version has been expired please contact
freedomscientific technical support  ok button
please if some one elss have  the same, just notify me what did you do.
mostafa almahdy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

2008-10-01 Thread Griffiths, Steve
Leonard,

It sounds like an AutoFormat option is turned on. From the Tools menu,
choose AutoCorrect. Press Control + Tab to move to the AutoFormat as you
Type page. DownArrow to Border Lines and I think it will be checked.
Uncheck it and your problem will go away.

With the Border Lines checkbox checked, Word will substitute borders
beneath the preceding paragraph when you type certain sequences of
characters in a paragraph of their own and then press Enter. Three or
more asterisks are changed to a dotted bottom border; to check this,
after typing three asterisks and then pressing Enter, press UpArrow to
get back to the paragraph and press Alt + Shift + B to get JAWS to
describe the borders.

Steve

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

Maybe: Word or other programs may use the star unspaced and repeated
(twice 
or more) symbol as a code for something - think of the hiding of
passwords, 
even.  However, you could also do it as follows.  leave a number of
blank 
linds, and on one of these blanks type  .  Then down-arrow to the
last 
blank line.  I believe you could also do ** ** [leaving a space between
the 
stars].  In other words, you can have as many stars as you want provided

that you put space after every couple.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


That solution crossed my mind but I was so frustrated I could not get
the
situation to correct itself after trying so hard I didn't reconsider it
again. (smile) You are right that will work but do you know why it has
to be
done that way? Thanks.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


 Press the spacebar after you input the stars, before you press enter.

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:57 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


 I am using ms word 2003. I have created a file of various articles
from
 newspapers in order to read them later. However, when I try to
separate
 the
 articles with  symbol, soon as I finish typing the symbols and hit
the
 enter key the *** symbols get erased. I've unchecked several items in
the
 spelling and grammar tab and typing replaces selection in the edit
tab,
 closed the document but the problem still exists.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS 9 and IE 7

2008-10-01 Thread Carlene Knight
Does this happen every time or occasionally?  Sometimes that happens to me and I
just have to reload the page.  I'm sure you have already made sure the page was
maximized.  You're right in the fact that the refresh button doesn't help.  I
would just go back with alt left arrow and try it again.

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:55:28 -0700, you wrote:

Hi list,

I have a problem with web pages reading in IE 7. JAWS will read the home
page just fine, but if I hit on a link on that page, the next page won't
read.  JFW only reads the title bar.  You can read some of the page with
the JAWS cursor, or by hitting INSERT-B, but nothing is read when using
the arrow keys or say all. Hitting F5 to refresh the page does not
help.

Andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread Carlene Knight
The only thing he asked is where he could get information on how to learn
scripting.  Everybody's comments regarding how that question shouldn't be
addressed is what's cluttering up the list, not his initial question.  He was
simply asking for a place to go,and you could politely suggest the scripting
list.

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:01:22 -0700, you wrote:

I agree with Dale.  We already have people who ask questions about JAWS on
the blind computing list and people who ask questions not related to JAWS on
the JAWS users list thus unnecessarily increasing the traffic on both lists.
Seeking answers to questions on a list that specializes in the topic of
interest by the questioner is the most efficient use of the band width and
saves a lot of time for those not concerned.

Bob




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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

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Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it a
shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness community
become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back into our little
corners.


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
 David Ferrin
 Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
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 Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting
 though.

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 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


 Hello everybody:
 first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
 my name is mostafa almahdy
  i've to start my scripting lessons.
 actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
 that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
 it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
 one.
 that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
  am interesting to know more and more.
  hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
 fromJAWS mailing list
 am waiting  for reply from some one elss
 mostafa almahdy
 -- 
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 IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.

2008-10-01 Thread David Ferrin

Can we put this thread to bed already folks?
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



The only thing he asked is where he could get information on how to learn
scripting.  Everybody's comments regarding how that question shouldn't be
addressed is what's cluttering up the list, not his initial question.  He 
was
simply asking for a place to go,and you could politely suggest the 
scripting

list.

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:01:22 -0700, you wrote:


I agree with Dale.  We already have people who ask questions about JAWS on
the blind computing list and people who ask questions not related to JAWS 
on
the JAWS users list thus unnecessarily increasing the traffic on both 
lists.

Seeking answers to questions on a list that specializes in the topic of
interest by the questioner is the most efficient use of the band width and
saves a lot of time for those not concerned.

Bob




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From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.


There is already a Jaws scripting list. it is at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not that I really care about having another list but I always think it a
shame when the resources and facilities of this little blindness community
become further fragmented. It just seems like stepping back into our 
little

corners.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



I'd like the list to expand and cover the topic of scripting myself.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hi, welcome to the list. I don't think this is the list for scripting
though.

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From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I want to start learn scripting.



Hello everybody:
first  of all: i would like to introduce myself
my name is mostafa almahdy
 i've to start my scripting lessons.
actually: i've no idea about scripting: all my informations are:
that's small software  created by professional users of JAWS to make
it more accessible with an couple of programmes or with  particular
one.
that's all my knowledge about issue of scripting.
 am interesting to know more and more.
 hope that could i get my teacher here  start my Scripting course
fromJAWS mailing list
am waiting  for reply from some one elss
mostafa almahdy
--
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IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE



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Re: [JAWS-Users] remote access

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas Sagar
VNC presents the image of another PC desktop in a bitmap image, thus JAWS 
looks at it as a graphic.  No access there.
I have had some luck with RDP but the PC you are RDP'ing to needs to have 
JAWS installed as well.  You can RDP from a PC without JAWS to one with JAWS 
but will either need to memorize the log in process without speech or have 
sighted assistance.  The JAWS runs kinda sluggish, though.
Never had much luck with the Citrix route, either.  Again the specific 
Citrix box you are connecting to must have JAWS installed on it as well as 
the PC you are using to connect.
Are you trying to find some kind of remote connectivity option in order to 
work at a computer help desk or something?

Tom
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Way?
What are the deferenses betwin vnc and rdp?
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That would be a big no.
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 anyone no if i can use vnc with remote jaws?


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[JAWS-Users] *(JAWS10.0.396.ex)*

2008-10-01 Thread mostafa almahdy
HI  FOLKS:
i'm downloading JAWS 10.0.396.ex right now
i'll try again: if i've the same problem, i will contact you to assist me.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] another text highlighting question

2008-10-01 Thread Carlene Knight
Oops, sorry.  That's shift control page down.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:40:54 +1200, you wrote:

Isn't shift ctrl end end of document?  I think that the questioner asked for 
end of paragraph.

Jewel
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It's shift control end.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:48:20 -0400, you wrote:

I thought the command to highlight text from the cursor to the end of the 
paragraph was shift
control down arrow but that does not seem to work for me.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

2008-10-01 Thread Leonard Morris
You are absolutely correct on both counts. I did not know about alt shift b 
and the border issue. Thanks much for your solution as well as Flora's 
alternative suggestion.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003



Leonard,

It sounds like an AutoFormat option is turned on. From the Tools menu,
choose AutoCorrect. Press Control + Tab to move to the AutoFormat as you
Type page. DownArrow to Border Lines and I think it will be checked.
Uncheck it and your problem will go away.

With the Border Lines checkbox checked, Word will substitute borders
beneath the preceding paragraph when you type certain sequences of
characters in a paragraph of their own and then press Enter. Three or
more asterisks are changed to a dotted bottom border; to check this,
after typing three asterisks and then pressing Enter, press UpArrow to
get back to the paragraph and press Alt + Shift + B to get JAWS to
describe the borders.

Steve

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: 01 October 2008 22:57
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003

Maybe: Word or other programs may use the star unspaced and repeated
(twice
or more) symbol as a code for something - think of the hiding of
passwords,
even.  However, you could also do it as follows.  leave a number of
blank
linds, and on one of these blanks type  .  Then down-arrow to the
last
blank line.  I believe you could also do ** ** [leaving a space between
the
stars].  In other words, you can have as many stars as you want provided

that you put space after every couple.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


That solution crossed my mind but I was so frustrated I could not get
the
situation to correct itself after trying so hard I didn't reconsider it
again. (smile) You are right that will work but do you know why it has
to be
done that way? Thanks.
- Original Message - 

From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003



Press the spacebar after you input the stars, before you press enter.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] marking text with symbols in MS word 2003


I am using ms word 2003. I have created a file of various articles

from

newspapers in order to read them later. However, when I try to

separate

the
articles with  symbol, soon as I finish typing the symbols and hit

the

enter key the *** symbols get erased. I've unchecked several items in

the

spelling and grammar tab and typing replaces selection in the edit

tab,

closed the document but the problem still exists.
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[JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired a technician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list 
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just 
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start 
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me 
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Web search, and book reading?

2008-10-01 Thread Flor Lynch
The class is using the print copy?  Also, there are different editions of it 
on the Web.  Your best bet may be - if you can't get a printed copy of their 
book and don't have OCR - to download a .pdf version of what they're using 
(if such can be procured) and use it as the basis for pagination purposes, 
at least.  (The .pdf might be a more accurate rendering of the printed book. 
HTML, being computer based and on the computer screen, cannot really be.) 
As I said, there are different editions of the CCC on the Web; one of 
which - for instance - is that of the Knights of Columbus.

I have searched for and hlooked at some of the Google results.  You might 
profit from doing the same or a similar search and spending some time 
investigating what you get.

- Original Message - 
From: rcham27 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Web search, and book reading?


Hi all;
  I have XP home and 9.0

For an adult study, I have assigned pages of a book to read.
The book is the Catholic catechism.
I can pull up the book on the web, but can not find how to get to the
appropriate page number.

The class is mild and only a few pages are assigned each week. I feel the
readings will be scattered throughout the book.

My question is how to locate the page number of this particular book.

I have been able to find the table of contents but no page number is listed.
Also, as I read through the book, I have no idea what page I am on.
I have tried using the JAWS key to navigate the site but no page number is
listed.

Thank you for any help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program 
runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the 

escape key
to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the 

vast
majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it 

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.  
cannot get to the start menu.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the 

escape key
to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the 

vast
majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it 

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Web search, and book reading?

2008-10-01 Thread Annette Carr
Maybe you can try to find out the title or subtitle of what you need to read
and do a search for that word or words, instead of searching for the page
numbers.

If you have access to a flat bed scanner, scan the pages in yourself through
the MS-Word scanning feature.  Take your book to class and bring some
paperclips or sticky notes.  Mark the first and last pages of the assigned
reading.

HTH,
Annette
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Web search, and book reading?

The class is using the print copy?  Also, there are different editions of it
on the Web.  Your best bet may be - if you can't get a printed copy of their
book and don't have OCR - to download a .pdf version of what they're using
(if such can be procured) and use it as the basis for pagination purposes,
at least.  (The .pdf might be a more accurate rendering of the printed book.

HTML, being computer based and on the computer screen, cannot really be.) As
I said, there are different editions of the CCC on the Web; one of which -
for instance - is that of the Knights of Columbus.

I have searched for and hlooked at some of the Google results.  You might
profit from doing the same or a similar search and spending some time
investigating what you get.

- Original Message -
From: rcham27 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Web search, and book reading?


Hi all;
  I have XP home and 9.0

For an adult study, I have assigned pages of a book to read.
The book is the Catholic catechism.
I can pull up the book on the web, but can not find how to get to the
appropriate page number.

The class is mild and only a few pages are assigned each week. I feel the
readings will be scattered throughout the book.

My question is how to locate the page number of this particular book.

I have been able to find the table of contents but no page number is listed.
Also, as I read through the book, I have no idea what page I am on.
I have tried using the JAWS key to navigate the site but no page number is
listed.

Thank you for any help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar

press alt f4

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired 
atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list box, now I 
cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer is set to 
do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list box cannot 
get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter 
anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start menu again. 
Karen thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar

did you try alt tab? or alt f4?

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 
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I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.  cannot get 
to the start menu.  Karen



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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs open at a 
time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to whatever time you 
want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program runs? Karen


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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess 
windows key but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back 
there, but now with the virus program probably running right now, 
cannot get to the internet.  Press i for internet, and nothing 
happens.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


press alt f4



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had 

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list 

box, now I
cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer 

is set to
do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list 

box cannot
get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows, 

tabs enter
anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start 

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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[JAWS-Users] winamp v5.541

2008-10-01 Thread Leonard Morris
I upgraded from winamp V5.24 pro to v5.541 and the alt keys don't bring up any 
menus anymore. Do I need to upgrade some scripts? The other version was working 
fine! Well, as they say if it aint broke don't fix it. (smile)
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[JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off list with suggestion. Thank you.

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I cannot seem to do anything right now.  YOU can contact me 
off-list if you'd like to help with the problem.  I'll thank you 
ahead of time.  I'm new Jaws user, so it's hard knowing what to 
do.  Do not know all commands to get myself out of trouble.  
Never had training much because am isolated here on Cape Cod no 
services here.  Thanks again.  Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi did not try alt tab did not know about that.  But got to the 
start menu finally, but will not work.  press i and nothing 
happens for internet.  Thing is probably running the virus 
program now.  Would that make a difference whether I can access 
anything? Thought the virus thing ran in background so you could 
work.  but cannot get things to work.  Am used to turning on 
computer, press windows key, get start menu, then on to what I 
want.  Now at start menu then this message just came up avg and 
now cannot do a thing.  Karen



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:08:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when 

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you try alt tab? or alt f4?



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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
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I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.  

cannot get

to the start menu.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar

did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the letter I for 
your internet..


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess windows key 
but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but now with 
the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the internet. 
Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


press alt f4



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I would not know how to change these settings for the virus 
program.  He did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary 
to have it running that long? And, not sure what you mean by 
running one program at a time.  In other words: could I get to 
internet through start menu at all? Got to that displaying then 
it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.  I wish I knew more 
about these things, and sometimes want to give up.  Karen Not 
sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but 
getting very frustrated having trouble for months and months with 
different things.



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when 

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs 

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to 

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
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I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program 

runs? Karen


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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey

I will try this, and let you know.


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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when 

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the 

letter I for

your internet..



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess 

windows key
but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but 

now with
the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the 

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar

yes you can do other things why AVG is doing it's thang..
I don't access my programs that way, I go to my desktop and press the first 
letter of that program..O/outlook express, I/internet explorer and so 
forth...
If your programs aren't on your desktop, then you would have to open them 
from your start menu. But you can put a shortcut icon on your desktop at any 
time if you like.
All you do is press your start windows key and the letter P and up arrow to 
the program you want to put a shortcut on your desktop, don't open it just 
make sure your cursor is highlighting it.
Then press the applications key usually located on the right side of the 
keyboard between the control key and windows key or on some keyboards the 
alt key.
After you press that key down arrow to you find it to read place icon or 
might say shortcut on your desktop and then press enter and it will be there 
the next time you go to your desktop.


Patricia
- Original Message - 
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused 
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Hi did not try alt tab did not know about that.  But got to the start menu 
finally, but will not work.  press i and nothing happens for internet. 
Thing is probably running the virus program now.  Would that make a 
difference whether I can access anything? Thought the virus thing ran in 
background so you could work.  but cannot get things to work.  Am used to 
turning on computer, press windows key, get start menu, then on to what I 
want.  Now at start menu then this message just came up avg and now cannot 
do a thing.  Karen



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:08:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you try alt tab? or alt f4?



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I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.

cannot get

to the start menu.  Karen



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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG? Also 
depending on the size of your hard drive. I have a 200/GB hard drive and AVG 
runs approx. 1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m. to know if it's 
doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this opens your 
system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is AVG doing 
it's scan of your computer.


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I would not know how to change these settings for the virus program.  He 
did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it running 
that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at a time. 
In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at all? Got to 
that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.  I wish I 
knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.  Karen Not 
sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but getting 
very frustrated having trouble for months and months with different things.



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yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen


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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to 
the desktop now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come 
up again after the virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: 
said something about hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next 
tab, the name again and 3 programs not sure what this was.  but 
seem to be out of it now.  Thank you.  Got to a site on internet.  
Good.  Seem to be in business, but will find out for certain 
tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.  Sorry, I'm just so new at 
it, and no instruction available for my area so can use all the 
help I can get.



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
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Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the 

letter I for

your internet..



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I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess 

windows key
but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but 

now with
the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the 

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, how do you highlight stuff? Karen Thanks for instructions.  
Must study desktop to see what is currently listed.  Was 
initially taught by a sighted person who did not know Jaws just 
go to start menu.  So much of my education now so messed up.  
Karen



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causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


yes you can do other things why AVG is doing it's thang..
I don't access my programs that way, I go to my desktop and press 

the first
letter of that program..O/outlook express, I/internet explorer 

and so

forth...
If your programs aren't on your desktop, then you would have to 

open them
from your start menu.  But you can put a shortcut icon on your 

desktop at any

time if you like.
All you do is press your start windows key and the letter P and 

up arrow to
the program you want to put a shortcut on your desktop, don't 

open it just

make sure your cursor is highlighting it.
Then press the applications key usually located on the right side 

of the
keyboard between the control key and windows key or on some 

keyboards the

alt key.
After you press that key down arrow to you find it to read place 

icon or
might say shortcut on your desktop and then press enter and it 

will be there

the next time you go to your desktop.



Patricia
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Hi did not try alt tab did not know about that.  But got to the 

start menu
finally, but will not work.  press i and nothing happens for 

internet.
Thing is probably running the virus program now.  Would that 

make a
difference whether I can access anything? Thought the virus 

thing ran in
background so you could work.  but cannot get things to work.  

Am used to
turning on computer, press windows key, get start menu, then on 

to what I
want.  Now at start menu then this message just came up avg and 

now cannot

do a thing.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:08:07 -0500
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Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



did you try alt tab? or alt f4?



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I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.

cannot get

to the start menu.  Karen



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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar

no problem and we have all been there one time or other smiles.
I missimformed you on putting your programs on your desktop on one minor 
step...


after hitting the applications key, on mine it says send to press enter on 
that then, arrow to place on desktop and enter again and your shortcut 
will be on your desktop..


I'm sorry if I've confused you here, if you wish to email me privately off 
this list, here is my email link..


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yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to the desktop 
now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come up again after the 
virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: said something about 
hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next tab, the name again and 3 
programs not sure what this was.  but seem to be out of it now.  Thank 
you.  Got to a site on internet.  Good.  Seem to be in business, but will 
find out for certain tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.  Sorry, I'm 
just so new at it, and no instruction available for my area so can use all 
the help I can get.



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the

letter I for

your internet..



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hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess

windows key

but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but

now with

the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? 
Probably doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, 
thank you for instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know 
how large your hard disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when 
I did that.  Had initially explained to Del that I would be 
running speech, but not sure how large this thing is.  Is there a 
way to ask what size it is? Karen



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causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG? 

Also
depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard 

drive and AVG
runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to 

know if it's
doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this 

opens your
system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is 

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



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I would not know how to change these settings for the virus 

program.  He
did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it 

running
that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at 

a time.
In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at 

all? Got to
that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.  

I wish I
knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.  

Karen Not
sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but 

getting
very frustrated having trouble for months and months with 

different things.


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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
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Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
Highlight just means using your navigation keys...up/down arrows and etc. So 
if your in a list of something, you move the up/down keys either on the 
inverted T or the keys on your numpad, which is how your screen reader was 
designed to work best with..



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Hi, how do you highlight stuff? Karen Thanks for instructions.  Must study 
desktop to see what is currently listed.  Was initially taught by a 
sighted person who did not know Jaws just go to start menu.  So much of my 
education now so messed up.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:29:13 -0500
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yes you can do other things why AVG is doing it's thang..
I don't access my programs that way, I go to my desktop and press

the first

letter of that program..O/outlook express, I/internet explorer

and so

forth...
If your programs aren't on your desktop, then you would have to

open them

from your start menu.  But you can put a shortcut icon on your

desktop at any

time if you like.
All you do is press your start windows key and the letter P and

up arrow to

the program you want to put a shortcut on your desktop, don't

open it just

make sure your cursor is highlighting it.
Then press the applications key usually located on the right side

of the

keyboard between the control key and windows key or on some

keyboards the

alt key.
After you press that key down arrow to you find it to read place

icon or

might say shortcut on your desktop and then press enter and it

will be there

the next time you go to your desktop.



Patricia
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Hi did not try alt tab did not know about that.  But got to the

start menu

finally, but will not work.  press i and nothing happens for

internet.

Thing is probably running the virus program now.  Would that

make a

difference whether I can access anything? Thought the virus

thing ran in

background so you could work.  but cannot get things to work.

Am used to

turning on computer, press windows key, get start menu, then on

to what I

want.  Now at start menu then this message just came up avg and

now cannot

do a thing.  Karen



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did you try alt tab? or alt f4?



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I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.

cannot get

to the start menu.  Karen



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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired a technician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Carlene Knight
What list box are you in?  What does it say exactly, or can you tell?  Sometimes
JAWS needs a fresh view of the screen so if you hold down insert and hit escape,
JAWS should say screen refreshed, or screen updated.  There might be something
going on that JAWS needs a refreshed screen to see.  AVG should run a scan
sometime between 10 and 4, but it shouldn't take 6 hours.  Alt tab away from
that window and then try to get to start if you haven't tried that already.  If
that doesn't work, perhaps you can load your internet program from the desktop
by hitting the windows start key and the letter m at the same time.  then you
might be able to arrow around and find your internet program or hit the first
letter of your program until you find it, then hit enter as always.  Hope that
helps.

On 01 Oct 2008 21:56:58 -0400, you wrote:

He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list 
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just 
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start 
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me 
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
The alt-tab lets you go from one open application to another, so if you had 
your email client open*outlook express*, and then decided to open internet 
explorer you could go to your desktop and open that up and then say you 
heard the sound you had new emails come into your inbox, you could press the 
alt-tab to switch back to that program and read the emails and then press 
alt-tab again to go back to the web page you were doing before you went back 
to the emails.


While I was writing you this message, I am downloading something too, so I 
alt tab to check how much longer it has, and then I alt tab back to this 
email smiles


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused 
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to the desktop 
now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come up again after the 
virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: said something about 
hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next tab, the name again and 3 
programs not sure what this was.  but seem to be out of it now.  Thank 
you.  Got to a site on internet.  Good.  Seem to be in business, but will 
find out for certain tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.  Sorry, I'm 
just so new at it, and no instruction available for my area so can use all 
the help I can get.



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the

letter I for

your internet..



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I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess

windows key

but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but

now with

the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
You can go to the system's tray, and arrow to the complete test and enter on 
that.
Then you can up/down arrow to show scanning progress and enter on it. Now 
you have to use your jaws cursor to read the precentage of how much AVG has 
scanned. Mine usually says somewhere in the neighborhood of 93,000 
files/folders so if it says less than that I know it's still doing it's 
thing.
If you don't feel comfortable in doing this, then just do nothing it will 
close it's self when it's done or might give you a close button where you 
press spacebar or alt C to close that screen..
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Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? Probably 
doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank you for 
instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large your hard 
disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had initially 
explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure how large 
this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



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causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



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I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.


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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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[JAWS-Users] OpenOffice 3.0 with JRE 6.0 and Access Bridge 2.0

2008-10-01 Thread Demetry Yousifidou
Hi list,

I just installed the latest OpenOffice 3.0 Release Candidate 3 with Sun
Java Runtime Enviroment 6.0 Update 7 and the Java Access Bridge 2.0.1.
I already activated the checkbox in the OpenOffice's Options menu the
Accessibility.
I can not really read the my braille display the text or menu items, and
JAWS is abnormal to speak the items.
How can I fix it? When I try to find out the colors JAWS says Black on
Black every times...

Thanks.
-- 
Kind regards,
Demetry Yousifidou

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
It says when I am in this list box, my name, tab my name and 3 
programs; tab: then hybernate



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From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:46:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

What list box are you in?  What does it say exactly, or can you 

tell?  Sometimes
JAWS needs a fresh view of the screen so if you hold down insert 

and hit escape,
JAWS should say screen refreshed, or screen updated.  There might 

be something
going on that JAWS needs a refreshed screen to see.  AVG should 

run a scan
sometime between 10 and 4, but it shouldn't take 6 hours.  Alt 

tab away from
that window and then try to get to start if you haven't tried 

that already.  If
that doesn't work, perhaps you can load your internet program 

from the desktop
by hitting the windows start key and the letter m at the same 

time.  then you
might be able to arrow around and find your internet program or 

hit the first
letter of your program until you find it, then hit enter as 

always.  Hope that

helps.



On 01 Oct 2008 21:56:58 -0400, you wrote:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi I did some of this, but now the thing says leaving menus, and 
am not sure where it is.  Will be checking it tomorrow morning, 
as is getting very late here.  But appreceaate any help I can get 
because no instructors in this region.  Thank you for helping me.  
Why does this thing now say: leaving menus when I have finally 
gotten to the start menu? Virus may be running now.  Tech guy has 
it set for six hours! Not sure how to get time less.  But need 
someone to walk me through it so I won't mess up too much.  
Thanks again.  Karen



- Original Message -
From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:46:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

What list box are you in?  What does it say exactly, or can you 

tell?  Sometimes
JAWS needs a fresh view of the screen so if you hold down insert 

and hit escape,
JAWS should say screen refreshed, or screen updated.  There might 

be something
going on that JAWS needs a refreshed screen to see.  AVG should 

run a scan
sometime between 10 and 4, but it shouldn't take 6 hours.  Alt 

tab away from
that window and then try to get to start if you haven't tried 

that already.  If
that doesn't work, perhaps you can load your internet program 

from the desktop
by hitting the windows start key and the letter m at the same 

time.  then you
might be able to arrow around and find your internet program or 

hit the first
letter of your program until you find it, then hit enter as 

always.  Hope that

helps.



On 01 Oct 2008 21:56:58 -0400, you wrote:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Can I ask you how you learned all this? Did you have instruction 
someplace? Some people going to rehab but cannot do that right 
now.  Looking for work, myself, and have duties pertaining to my 
mother in nursing home.  Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:49:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem 

causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

The alt-tab lets you go from one open application to another, so 

if you had
your email client open*outlook express*, and then decided to open 

internet
explorer you could go to your desktop and open that up and then 

say you
heard the sound you had new emails come into your inbox, you 

could press the
alt-tab to switch back to that program and read the emails and 

then press
alt-tab again to go back to the web page you were doing before 

you went back

to the emails.


While I was writing you this message, I am downloading something 

too, so I
alt tab to check how much longer it has, and then I alt tab back 

to this

email smiles



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to 

the desktop
now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come up again 

after the
virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: said something 

about
hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next tab, the name again 

and 3
programs not sure what this was.  but seem to be out of it now.  

Thank
you.  Got to a site on internet.  Good.  Seem to be in business, 

but will
find out for certain tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.  

Sorry, I'm
just so new at it, and no instruction available for my area so 

can use all

the help I can get.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the

letter I for

your internet..



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess

windows key

but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but

now with

the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



- Original Message -
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I saw the close button at one point, but did not know if I should 
hit that or not.  Would it still do scans if I hit that? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:54:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with 
aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows 
nothingabout Jaws:


You can go to the system's tray, and arrow to the complete test 

and enter on

that.
Then you can up/down arrow to show scanning progress and enter on 

it.  Now
you have to use your jaws cursor to read the precentage of how 

much AVG has
scanned.  Mine usually says somewhere in the neighborhood of 

93,000
files/folders so if it says less than that I know it's still 

doing it's

thing.
If you don't feel comfortable in doing this, then just do nothing 

it will
close it's self when it's done or might give you a close button 

where you

press spacebar or alt C to close that screen..
- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 

about Jaws:


Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? 

Probably
doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank 

you for
instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large 

your hard
disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had 

initially
explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure 

how large

this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem
causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about 

Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
if it says leaving menus, you are holding the alt key down too long and have 
the menus open is all smiles..


Yes you can find out how large your hard drive is and just about anything 
else you want to know and probably stuff you have no idea what it is and 
for...


start key
press letter s till you hear settings and enter
control panel and enter
when the list shows arrow down or press the letter D for display and enter
control-tab to the hardware tab page then tab down that page to read about 
your computer's size.


note..control-tab is different from alt-tab
so don't press alt tab here it will take you out of that completely. There 
are several pages to this display and to get to the page of the info you 
want, you press the control-tab to you hear which one you want.
then after you are finished with all of it, press alt f4 to close it out 
completely.


**caution!** be careful if you change anything in any of this it could cause 
some problems to the function of your computer. Don't mean to scare you, but 
you need to know and if by chance you accidently change something and not 
sure how to undo it, tab to the cancel button and spacebar it and all will 
be as if you never looked there..


- Original Message - 
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a 
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? Probably 
doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank you for 
instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large your hard 
disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had initially 
explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure how large 
this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem

causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.


- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off list withsuggestion. Thank you.

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar

I'll talk or email you tomorrow.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off list 
withsuggestion. Thank you.



I cannot seem to do anything right now.  YOU can contact me off-list if 
you'd like to help with the problem.  I'll thank you ahead of time.  I'm 
new Jaws user, so it's hard knowing what to do.  Do not know all commands 
to get myself out of trouble.  Never had training much because am isolated 
here on Cape Cod no services here.  Thanks again.  Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Oh boy! Can I get myself in trouble! Interesting though.  Oh by 
the way, did not hold down alt to get message about leaving 
menus.  I was just sitting here when it spoke this itself did not 
touch the keyboard! How did that happen? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:03:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with 
aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows 
nothingabout Jaws:


if it says leaving menus, you are holding the alt key down too 

long and have

the menus open is all smiles..


Yes you can find out how large your hard drive is and just about 

anything
else you want to know and probably stuff you have no idea what it 

is and

for...



start key
press letter s till you hear settings and enter
control panel and enter
when the list shows arrow down or press the letter D for display 

and enter
control-tab to the hardware tab page then tab down that page to 

read about

your computer's size.



note..control-tab is different from alt-tab
so don't press alt tab here it will take you out of that 

completely.  There
are several pages to this display and to get to the page of the 

info you

want, you press the control-tab to you hear which one you want.
then after you are finished with all of it, press alt f4 to close 

it out

completely.


**caution!** be careful if you change anything in any of this it 

could cause
some problems to the function of your computer.  Don't mean to 

scare you, but
you need to know and if by chance you accidently change something 

and not
sure how to undo it, tab to the cancel button and spacebar it and 

all will

be as if you never looked there..



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 

about Jaws:


Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? 

Probably
doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank 

you for
instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large 

your hard
disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had 

initially
explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure 

how large

this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem
causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about 

Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off listwithsuggestion. Thank you.

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
thank you very much will be looking forward to hearing from you.  
Karen



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:04:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me 

off listwithsuggestion.  Thank you.


I'll talk or email you tomorrow.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off 

list

withsuggestion.  Thank you.



I cannot seem to do anything right now.  YOU can contact me 

off-list if
you'd like to help with the problem.  I'll thank you ahead of 

time.  I'm
new Jaws user, so it's hard knowing what to do.  Do not know all 

commands
to get myself out of trouble.  Never had training much because am 

isolated

here on Cape Cod no services here.  Thanks again.  Karen



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help withaproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knowsnothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
no. just do nothing if you close it it will stop. it will close on it's own 
if your not around to close it yourself. Mine always does. I turn it on and 
leave it on it's own till I know the AVg is finished simply because it's too 
dern early to sit here and fiddle with whatever at 8/a.m. hahhaha


- Original Message - 
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help 
withaproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knowsnothingabout Jaws:



I saw the close button at one point, but did not know if I should hit that 
or not.  Would it still do scans if I hit that? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:54:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with

aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:


You can go to the system's tray, and arrow to the complete test

and enter on

that.
Then you can up/down arrow to show scanning progress and enter on

it.  Now

you have to use your jaws cursor to read the precentage of how

much AVG has

scanned.  Mine usually says somewhere in the neighborhood of

93,000

files/folders so if it says less than that I know it's still

doing it's

thing.
If you don't feel comfortable in doing this, then just do nothing

it will

close it's self when it's done or might give you a close button

where you

press spacebar or alt C to close that screen..
- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing

about Jaws:



Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus?

Probably

doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank

you for

instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large

your hard

disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had

initially

explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure

how large

this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem

causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about

Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Marilyn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help withaproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knowsnothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Patricia Dunbar
Because you probably have all the dialogue buttons and all the menus and 
anything else jaws can read to you going on on your computer. So if 
something changes regardless if you did it or not, jaws will tell ya..


I can't stand all that jabbering and besides whose in control here anyways??

- Original Message - 
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help 
withaproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knowsnothingabout Jaws:



Oh boy! Can I get myself in trouble! Interesting though.  Oh by the way, 
did not hold down alt to get message about leaving menus.  I was just 
sitting here when it spoke this itself did not touch the keyboard! How did 
that happen? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:03:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with

aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:


if it says leaving menus, you are holding the alt key down too

long and have

the menus open is all smiles..



Yes you can find out how large your hard drive is and just about

anything

else you want to know and probably stuff you have no idea what it

is and

for...



start key
press letter s till you hear settings and enter
control panel and enter
when the list shows arrow down or press the letter D for display

and enter

control-tab to the hardware tab page then tab down that page to

read about

your computer's size.



note..control-tab is different from alt-tab
so don't press alt tab here it will take you out of that

completely.  There

are several pages to this display and to get to the page of the

info you

want, you press the control-tab to you hear which one you want.
then after you are finished with all of it, press alt f4 to close

it out

completely.



**caution!** be careful if you change anything in any of this it

could cause

some problems to the function of your computer.  Don't mean to

scare you, but

you need to know and if by chance you accidently change something

and not

sure how to undo it, tab to the cancel button and spacebar it and

all will

be as if you never looked there..



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing

about Jaws:



Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus?

Probably

doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank

you for

instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large

your hard

disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had

initially

explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure

how large

this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem

causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about

Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what 

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hmm that's interesting you found folks to help so much.  I have 
had some offers, and glad for those.  Feel like I will never 
catch up.  How do you get to the tutorial on the disk? That's one 
problem I have.  Confused about getting to the tutorial to learn 
in the first place.  Wish we could have instructions on cd 
instead for us new users and I hate the way instruction is on 
computer you don't know how to use in the first place.  Think 
your instructor was quite correct, but now problem is, how to 
correct everything I know not.  Karen and Harpo



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:18:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with 
aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows 
nothingabout Jaws:


I learned from this list and from other people who took time to 

show me.  I
did have 40 hours to learn...xp, jaws, excel, quicken, open book 

way back in

2001 hahhaha


The guy was from the division of blind services he did the best 

he could and
I read and read and ask zillions of questions and brailled 

everything anyone
ever told me because I just knew no way I could ever remember all 

of it and
for sure would be in a situation one day where no help was 

available and I

figured the more info I had available to me the better...
But I really believe the more one uses their computer on a 

regular and daily
bases, the more they become familiar with it.  All of these 

programs can be
found in tutorials or within the help menus of that program to at 

least help

you to learn the hot keys to use the programs.


I have a sister who is a true fan of Word Perfect absolutely 

hates Word.  So
she gets in these jams and calls me, but I know nada on WP and 

tell her to

use Word,grins she hangs up on me,lol hahhah


But one thing I like about windows and most of all windows based 

programs is
the hot keys are the same in most instances...the cut, copy, 

paste for
instance can be used globally and for that I am grateful so not 

have to

learn some other hot keys on how to do the same thing..


Read your help files on your Jaws, my instructor told me to learn 

jaws first
before I could learn to use the computer because the jaws is your 

eyes..


Patricia



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 

about Jaws:



Can I ask you how you learned all this? Did you have instruction
someplace? Some people going to rehab but cannot do that right 

now.
Looking for work, myself, and have duties pertaining to my 

mother in

nursing home.  Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:49:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem
causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about 

Jaws:


The alt-tab lets you go from one open application to another, so

if you had

your email client open*outlook express*, and then decided to open

internet

explorer you could go to your desktop and open that up and then

say you

heard the sound you had new emails come into your inbox, you

could press the

alt-tab to switch back to that program and read the emails and

then press

alt-tab again to go back to the web page you were doing before

you went back

to the emails.



While I was writing you this message, I am downloading something

too, so I

alt tab to check how much longer it has, and then I alt tab back

to this

email smiles



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to

the desktop

now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come up again

after the

virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: said something

about

hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next tab, the name again

and 3

programs not sure what this was.  but seem to be out of it now.

Thank

you.  Got to a site on internet.  Good.  Seem to be in business,

but will

find out for certain tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.

Sorry, I'm

just so new at it, and no instruction available for my area so

can use all

the help I can get.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the

letter I for

your 

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