Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
I suppose it is a kind of insurance policy but it does prevent a freer flow of information which would more than offset the small difficulties caused by impropper implimentation and/or undeveloped advice. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Forms Mode, On or off
that's my thinking, too. Although i have to have it on in Firefox because otherwise Ff won't work properly when I subscribe to automatic live bookmarks. (I'm told that that's a bug in JAWS as well, BTW. Not everybody has it.) - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Forms Mode, On or off I went into the configuration manager and turned that auto forms mode feature off. It's really annoying when you're reading a webpage, and you have to deal with that thing turning on and off. I know that you can turn the sound off, but I just turned the whole thing off. I'm thinking that FS has run out of new ideas and is just finding ways to repackage the old ones. - Original Message - From: Russell J. Thomas, Jr rjtlawf...@yahoo.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Forms Mode, On or off That is because of this wonderful new feature in JAWS10, you magically wind up in forms mode, whether you want to be there or not. Don't hit enter; if you want to be in forms mode, you are already there. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. THOMAS ASSOCIATES Orange County Office 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 Beverly Hills Office 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 Beverly Hills, California 90210 T: (310) 461-3561 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Forms Mode, On or off I know I am supposed to press enter to get into forms mode, but sometimes when I get on a web page I am already in forms mode and don't know it. I have not yet pressed enter, but when I do, it's like I entered on a continue button. Is there an explanation for this? Blessings, Tom Click now for instant access to public records! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw15sbdlk99AJMOutFDsebRg5WRo 0v92uU2xnIxwXXU1XOcJA/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
Your point is a valid one. If the information being provided isn't constructive or helpful, then why post it. I'm in agreement. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the scripts. 9. You can now hit alt-F4 to close the scripts. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
True, but in situations like that, I always post a disclaimer. Like, if you're not familiar with this procedure, then I'd suggest you not try it. But I'll always put the info out there for those who have the knowledge to make that judgment call for themselves. Jack - Original Message - From: Ali ali.14...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup I suppose it is a kind of insurance policy but it does prevent a freer flow of information which would more than offset the small difficulties caused by impropper implimentation and/or undeveloped advice. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message
Hi Alan, Another much faster way of doing this is to paste the message into a WordPad document, which opens a lot faster than Microsoft Word, and doing the same thing of finding and replacing the greater symbols and leaving the replacement field blank. Tab to the replace all button and press the spacebar. This also does it a lot faster than word. Hope this helps. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage
Are there any commands which allow a user of jaws to read only the text in a webpage, skipping over links, combo, check and edit boxes and buttons? Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage
Use the letter N to navigate to the text of webpages. This skips links and other elements on the page. Kate Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:20:06 -0600 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: nightcrawler4...@gmail.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage Are there any commands which allow a user of jaws to read only the text in a webpage, skipping over links, combo, check and edit boxes and buttons? Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] clickable clickable
I use web mail through hotmail. When I read my emails, it's constantly saying clickable clickable, after every line of text in an email message. Is there a way to turn this off? _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive
I just ran into the same problem this weekend. It happened after installing jaws 9 thumb drive version onto the external hard drive and then trying to boot up the computer with the drive inserted. Is there anything in particular that you have recently put on your external drive? Perhaps it's interfering with the start-up. I can't say much beyond that, though as I didn't ever exactly figure out what happened with my problem either. Kate From: fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
The fact is discussing how to de-compile or crack an executable file is illegal and as such not permitted on any list at all under this domain name. I do agree with you Kate but my previous statement stands for anybody who might ever consider posting such information on here. Such people will be removed from this list and also banned from ever returning. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the scripts. 9. You can now hit alt-F4 to close the scripts. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
Well I live in the United States, and this domain name is registered here also. There for my previous message stands. I think that is enough on this particular topic of conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: E.J. Zufelt li...@zufelt.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Good morning, Depending on which country or jurisdiction you are in it is perfectly legal to reverse engineer an application for personal or educational purposes. But, editing the binary file that contains that message will at the best allow you to change the static message, not replace it with a dynamically generated one. HTH, Everett On 3-Feb-09, at 8:32 AM, David Ferrin wrote: The fact is discussing how to de-compile or crack an executable file is illegal and as such not permitted on any list at all under this domain name. I do agree with you Kate but my previous statement stands for anybody who might ever consider posting such information on here. Such people will be removed from this list and also banned from ever returning. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says,
Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive
only files. I have another hard drive and it did not do that. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive I just ran into the same problem this weekend. It happened after installing jaws 9 thumb drive version onto the external hard drive and then trying to boot up the computer with the drive inserted. Is there anything in particular that you have recently put on your external drive? Perhaps it's interfering with the start-up. I can't say much beyond that, though as I didn't ever exactly figure out what happened with my problem either. Kate From: fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] JAWS 10 Issue
Hi All, I am back on the list after a couple of years off list. I have an issue that has developed that I hope someone can help with. It is fairly complex so it will take a little bit to explain it. I am using XP Professional with all updates. I am using Outlook 2000. I recently installed JAWS 10. The problem is when I go to reply to an e-mail, I am unable to type in the body of the message. This only happens if I have gone to Internet Explorer while Outlook is open and minimized. When this happens I hear the autoforms sound that I set up for leaving a forms field on a web page when I go to the body of the message. I turned off the autoforms and turned off the sound while in outlook through JAWS verbosity, but that didn't help. It is almost like JAWS still thinks I am on a web page. If I go and close Internet Explorer and close Outlook, and then reopen Outlook, the problem does not occur. Anybody else experience this and is there a permanent solution? I opened a ticket at Freedom Scientific through the mail but the next time I signed on I didn't have the problem so I cancelled the ticket. Michael A. Tisdale, LMT They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10 Issue
I been hoping FS would have had a batch for this problem, but nothing to date. Some times, shuting down JFW and restarting it will solve the problem. - Original Message - From: Michael A. Tisdale mtisdal...@cox.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 09:28 Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10 Issue Hi All, I am back on the list after a couple of years off list. I have an issue that has developed that I hope someone can help with. It is fairly complex so it will take a little bit to explain it. I am using XP Professional with all updates. I am using Outlook 2000. I recently installed JAWS 10. The problem is when I go to reply to an e-mail, I am unable to type in the body of the message. This only happens if I have gone to Internet Explorer while Outlook is open and minimized. When this happens I hear the autoforms sound that I set up for leaving a forms field on a web page when I go to the body of the message. I turned off the autoforms and turned off the sound while in outlook through JAWS verbosity, but that didn't help. It is almost like JAWS still thinks I am on a web page. If I go and close Internet Explorer and close Outlook, and then reopen Outlook, the problem does not occur. Anybody else experience this and is there a permanent solution? I opened a ticket at Freedom Scientific through the mail but the next time I signed on I didn't have the problem so I cancelled the ticket. Michael A. Tisdale, LMT They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express
The person on the receiving end will not get any 'cell' thing. It's an artifact of the new settings - copy full screen content - in JAWS10. . Mike's way of doing it is fine, if you need to go to the trouble. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express How can you edit it? - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express Not in outlook Express per se. Rather, it is a result of the copy full screen content in internet Explorer and other html formatted documents. If you use SayAll instead, you will not see the cell problem much. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express I find it annoying in some emails jaws reads cell in the beginning of each line. Today there was an email that I wanted to send to someone that had a lot of greater signs also at the beginning of each line. Trying to use e-cleaner to remove the greater signs it did not work since when I copied it put everything into one cell. I would guess that this is something in outlook express but haven't found it.Any ideas? --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ Lenny Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com __ NOD32 3820 (20090203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage
A way to kind-of do this is to save the page as a text document. Also, an almost example of what can be achieved is when, in a newspaper article on-line, you enter on the 'printable version' link. (then, if the printer wants to print, hit the escape button, and you can read away.) - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage This does work, but it doesn't answer the question. He wants to know if there is a key command that will let you read an entire web page from top to bottom as if it were a text document. Ignoring all the links, combo boxes and all the other clutter. Truth is, I don't think such a key command exists. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage Use the letter N to navigate to the text of webpages. This skips links and other elements on the page. Kate Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:20:06 -0600 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: nightcrawler4...@gmail.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage Are there any commands which allow a user of jaws to read only the text in a webpage, skipping over links, combo, check and edit boxes and buttons? Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable
However, if you want the help of someone sighted with you, or you want to show them something, you will need to have screen track virtual cursor checked. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable Hi Kate, Are you talking about the mouse over command when you're on a webpage? In case this is what you mean, there is a way to turn this off. 1. Hit insert-6 on the number row. This brings up the Jaws configuration manager. 2. Now hit Alt-S and arrow down to HTML options, and hit enter. 3. Now, do the control-tab until you hear Misc Page. 4. Tab until you hear, indicate element attribute. If this is checked, uncheck it with space bar. 5. Now tab to OK, and save your changes. That should fix it. By the way, there is also another command in this list that's called Screen Track Virtual Cursor. I also have this unchecked. with this checked, anything you do with Jaws causes the screen to move with the virtual cursor. With it unchecked, you can move about the webpage, and the text on the screen doesn't move. This is great is you're with someone sighted and they're also trying to read the same page. They are free to move about the page with the mouse and neither of you interferes with what the other is doing. Did this make sense? Hope so. Jack - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable I use web mail through hotmail. When I read my emails, it's constantly saying clickable clickable, after every line of text in an email message. Is there a way to turn this off? _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message
You are only nipping your own reading of those greater-than signs inm the bud, not the recipients'. Just thought I'd mention that. (they do have a purpose, actually: the amount of greater-than signs preceding a line indicate how many times the email was forwarded before it reached you.) - Original Message - From: Waqas Chauhdry waq...@o2.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message I just use the Jaws dictionary manager in Outlook to stop Jaws from reading the greater than or vertical bar signs by replacing them with a space. Nip the greater than sign in the bud for good (grin) Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: 03 February 2009 3:57 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message Hi Alan, Another much faster way of doing this is to paste the message into a WordPad document, which opens a lot faster than Microsoft Word, and doing the same thing of finding and replacing the greater symbols and leaving the replacement field blank. Tab to the replace all button and press the spacebar. This also does it a lot faster than word. Hope this helps. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off
Hi, I am still using Jaws 9, thank goodness, but one thing I do to be sure I am not accidentally pressing enter on something instead of entering forms mode is that I use the Jaws left mouse click to enter forms mode. Then I am not in danger of being whisked some place I don't want to be. I then use the PC cursor to get out of forms mode. If I am not sure whether I am in forms mode or not I press the PC cursor key and then the left mouse click key. to enter forms mode. I find using the Jaws left mouse click very satisfactory. I have not tried it with the demo version of Jaws 10 I installed, however.After hearing all the bugs in Jaws 10 I have no intention of ever upgrading to it if it can really be called an upgrade. Why would anyone deliberately ask for more problems? Sherrie Gosling - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Thanks for your help on this one. I didn't realize that was a new feature. Blessings, Tom Click now to find the perfect Christmas lights for your decorations! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3OHOxWh1Bk31Be3gfNyXeRbVPrFlrVH3iyLEQB3pMGsxOqi/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting rid of greater signs in a message
address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com __ NOD32 3820 (20090203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1930 - Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:51 AM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send
Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off
Actually, after a little getting used to, I like the auto forms mode. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sherrie Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Hi, I am still using Jaws 9, thank goodness, but one thing I do to be sure I am not accidentally pressing enter on something instead of entering forms mode is that I use the Jaws left mouse click to enter forms mode. Then I am not in danger of being whisked some place I don't want to be. I then use the PC cursor to get out of forms mode. If I am not sure whether I am in forms mode or not I press the PC cursor key and then the left mouse click key. to enter forms mode. I find using the Jaws left mouse click very satisfactory. I have not tried it with the demo version of Jaws 10 I installed, however.After hearing all the bugs in Jaws 10 I have no intention of ever upgrading to it if it can really be called an upgrade. Why would anyone deliberately ask for more problems? Sherrie Gosling - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Thanks for your help on this one. I didn't realize that was a new feature. Blessings, Tom Click now to find the perfect Christmas lights for your decorations! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3OHOxWh1Bk31Be3gfNyXeR bVPrFlrVH3iyLEQB3pMGsxOqi/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage
Just hit N. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nightcrawler Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading text only in a webpage Are there any commands which allow a user of jaws to read only the text in a webpage, skipping over links, combo, check and edit boxes and buttons? Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
It clearly states in the license agreement regarding tampering with the hard coding of Jaws. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup I well remember this coming up five or six years ago although I don't recall most of the details. The thing to be remembered is that this is a form of software hacking reverse engineering. The original machine code is being altered and strictly speaking, even loosely speaking I suppose it is in breach of copyright. It involves altering the distributed executable code of Jaws. Those familiar with byte-to-byte editing of 386 Hex code will know how it is done. I expect it is illegal. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit
Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message
I just use the Jaws dictionary manager in Outlook to stop Jaws from reading the greater than or vertical bar signs by replacing them with a space. Nip the greater than sign in the bud for good (grin) Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: 03 February 2009 3:57 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message Hi Alan, Another much faster way of doing this is to paste the message into a WordPad document, which opens a lot faster than Microsoft Word, and doing the same thing of finding and replacing the greater symbols and leaving the replacement field blank. Tab to the replace all button and press the spacebar. This also does it a lot faster than word. Hope this helps. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off
the last build of JAWS9 wasn't as good, IMO, as the previous build(s). So JAWS10 is actually an improvement, for me. I could get used to AutoForms Mode, and used it for a while; but i preferred it off when i reverted. I don't always want to be in an edit area when i go on to google; and I don't want the annoyance of AutoForms Mode coming on and then off with no intervention on my part - which I have noticed happen in some instances! If you ever have to do a real multi-line edit in one box, then it is essential. My Firefox won't work properly with JAWS10 without autoForms Mode enabled - which, as I previously indicated, is not so for everyone. - Original Message - From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Actually, after a little getting used to, I like the auto forms mode. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sherrie Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Hi, I am still using Jaws 9, thank goodness, but one thing I do to be sure I am not accidentally pressing enter on something instead of entering forms mode is that I use the Jaws left mouse click to enter forms mode. Then I am not in danger of being whisked some place I don't want to be. I then use the PC cursor to get out of forms mode. If I am not sure whether I am in forms mode or not I press the PC cursor key and then the left mouse click key. to enter forms mode. I find using the Jaws left mouse click very satisfactory. I have not tried it with the demo version of Jaws 10 I installed, however.After hearing all the bugs in Jaws 10 I have no intention of ever upgrading to it if it can really be called an upgrade. Why would anyone deliberately ask for more problems? Sherrie Gosling - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Thanks for your help on this one. I didn't realize that was a new feature. Blessings, Tom Click now to find the perfect Christmas lights for your decorations! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3OHOxWh1Bk31Be3gfNyXeR bVPrFlrVH3iyLEQB3pMGsxOqi/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives:
Re: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable
Hi, Kate. I have this problem on the Zap2It sight. I thought I read someplace that clickable is the new term for On Mouse over JAWS used in previous versions, but I may be wrong about that. Plus, it seems to identify text next to or under the link as clickable when I know from experience that the text under the link is just that; text that's not dynamic in any way. Anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening? Is does get annoying after a while. Lisa Lisa Belville Attention: I have a new Email address: missktlab1...@verizon.net - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:14 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable I use web mail through hotmail. When I read my emails, it's constantly saying clickable clickable, after every line of text in an email message. Is there a way to turn this off? _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message
I know and for the reasons you have outlined they should be retained for the sake of a sighted reader. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 03 February 2009 16:11 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message You are only nipping your own reading of those greater-than signs inm the bud, not the recipients'. Just thought I'd mention that. (they do have a purpose, actually: the amount of greater-than signs preceding a line indicate how many times the email was forwarded before it reached you.) - Original Message - From: Waqas Chauhdry waq...@o2.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message I just use the Jaws dictionary manager in Outlook to stop Jaws from reading the greater than or vertical bar signs by replacing them with a space. Nip the greater than sign in the bud for good (grin) Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: 03 February 2009 3:57 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Getting rid of greater signs in a message Hi Alan, Another much faster way of doing this is to paste the message into a WordPad document, which opens a lot faster than Microsoft Word, and doing the same thing of finding and replacing the greater symbols and leaving the replacement field blank. Tab to the replace all button and press the spacebar. This also does it a lot faster than word. Hope this helps. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express
Hi Flor, When I receive an e-mail that Jaws reads cell or horizontal line, and I attempt to edit the e-mail before forwarding by taking out everything but the message, I totally screw up the message. Therefore, by pasting into Word and cleaning the message up in there, copying it to the clipboard, and then pasting it into a new e-mail I now know that the people I am sending the e-mail to will receive the whole message. I may be taking the long way around the block in doing all this but, I have experimented with other ways with no success. Also Flor, I totally enjoy your posts'. You have taught myself others so much with your vast knowledge. Thank you very much to all the people who contribute to these lists'. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express The person on the receiving end will not get any 'cell' thing. It's an artifact of the new settings - copy full screen content - in JAWS10. . Mike's way of doing it is fine, if you need to go to the trouble. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express How can you edit it? - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express Not in outlook Express per se. Rather, it is a result of the copy full screen content in internet Explorer and other html formatted documents. If you use SayAll instead, you will not see the cell problem much. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express I find it annoying in some emails jaws reads cell in the beginning of each line. Today there was an email that I wanted to send to someone that had a lot of greater signs also at the beginning of each line. Trying to use e-cleaner to remove the greater signs it did not work since when I copied it put everything into one cell. I would guess that this is something in outlook express but haven't found it.Any ideas? --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ Lenny Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com __ NOD32 3820 (20090203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
I well remember this coming up five or six years ago although I don't recall most of the details. The thing to be remembered is that this is a form of software hacking reverse engineering. The original machine code is being altered and strictly speaking, even loosely speaking I suppose it is in breach of copyright. It involves altering the distributed executable code of Jaws. Those familiar with byte-to-byte editing of 386 Hex code will know how it is done. I expect it is illegal. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the scripts. 9. You can now hit alt-F4 to close the scripts. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To
Re: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable
Hi Kate, Are you talking about the mouse over command when you're on a webpage? In case this is what you mean, there is a way to turn this off. 1. Hit insert-6 on the number row. This brings up the Jaws configuration manager. 2. Now hit Alt-S and arrow down to HTML options, and hit enter. 3. Now, do the control-tab until you hear Misc Page. 4. Tab until you hear, indicate element attribute. If this is checked, uncheck it with space bar. 5. Now tab to OK, and save your changes. That should fix it. By the way, there is also another command in this list that's called Screen Track Virtual Cursor. I also have this unchecked. with this checked, anything you do with Jaws causes the screen to move with the virtual cursor. With it unchecked, you can move about the webpage, and the text on the screen doesn't move. This is great is you're with someone sighted and they're also trying to read the same page. They are free to move about the page with the mouse and neither of you interferes with what the other is doing. Did this make sense? Hope so. Jack - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] clickable clickable I use web mail through hotmail. When I read my emails, it's constantly saying clickable clickable, after every line of text in an email message. Is there a way to turn this off? _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
Good morning, Depending on which country or jurisdiction you are in it is perfectly legal to reverse engineer an application for personal or educational purposes. But, editing the binary file that contains that message will at the best allow you to change the static message, not replace it with a dynamically generated one. HTH, Everett On 3-Feb-09, at 8:32 AM, David Ferrin wrote: The fact is discussing how to de-compile or crack an executable file is illegal and as such not permitted on any list at all under this domain name. I do agree with you Kate but my previous statement stands for anybody who might ever consider posting such information on here. Such people will be removed from this list and also banned from ever returning. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the scripts. 9.
Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off
It's actually a really handy tool for those who are new to Jaws. Learning what edit fields are, and how they work is something that can be tricky for newcomers to screen readers, especially on websites. I'm just grateful that I have the option to turn it off. - Original Message - From: Sherrie sillygoo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Hi, I am still using Jaws 9, thank goodness, but one thing I do to be sure I am not accidentally pressing enter on something instead of entering forms mode is that I use the Jaws left mouse click to enter forms mode. Then I am not in danger of being whisked some place I don't want to be. I then use the PC cursor to get out of forms mode. If I am not sure whether I am in forms mode or not I press the PC cursor key and then the left mouse click key. to enter forms mode. I find using the Jaws left mouse click very satisfactory. I have not tried it with the demo version of Jaws 10 I installed, however.After hearing all the bugs in Jaws 10 I have no intention of ever upgrading to it if it can really be called an upgrade. Why would anyone deliberately ask for more problems? Sherrie Gosling - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off Thanks for your help on this one. I didn't realize that was a new feature. Blessings, Tom Click now to find the perfect Christmas lights for your decorations! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3OHOxWh1Bk31Be3gfNyXeRbVPrFlrVH3iyLEQB3pMGsxOqi/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
sorry about my confusion people my apologies I didn't think it would go that far heheheheheeh lol relax everyone I don't wana do it is that better? thanks cheers everyone smiles - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup The fact is discussing how to de-compile or crack an executable file is illegal and as such not permitted on any list at all under this domain name. I do agree with you Kate but my previous statement stands for anybody who might ever consider posting such information on here. Such people will be removed from this list and also banned from ever returning. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup
Just a thought, but I'm wondering why your unwilling to share. If a person is learning something like this and your at least willing to give the warning that it may cause certain problems, then it's really up to them to proceed or not proceed with the information. If they make the file unusable, could they not repair jaws and go from there? I mean, at least to me, this seems to be a listserve where people can ask questions and learn from one another. It seems sort of odd to say yes you can do procedure X and then saying up front, I ain't tellin you how. That kind of responce sounds elitist at best and snobbish at worst. If your really worried about someone being angry at you if they don't do the procedure correctly, then just don't bring it up in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for someone to decide what information another person can or can't comprehend and use effectively. We all get responces like this day in and day out from sighted people who second guess our abilities. Doesn't make sense to do the same sort of thing to each other here, too. We should all be adult enough to know our own level of comfort with our computer tinkering skills. And we should all be adult enough to know how to handle the consequences of anything we do decide to try. This is only my opinion on the matter. I know others might disagree and that's fine. I just wanted to put in my own two cents. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:27:30 -0500 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com From: z200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup you can't do it with scripting. it can only be done with a hex editor, and no I won't tell you what file to do it to or what to look for to remove it. Because if you don't know what you are doing the file can be come unusable. At 02:40 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Aha! Unfortunately no. That startup message is hard wired into the coding of Jaws. I have no idea where you'd go in the scripting to remove that start up message. Jack - Original Message - From: Rissal rissalakkou...@yahoo.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup can I get rid of the following message?: jaws for windows is ready and put that greeting instead is that possible? thanks cheers skype: mr.riss msn: mr.r...@hotmail.com thanks again. - Original Message - From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com To: JAWS Users Group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scripting: Personal Jaws Startup Hi Group, A few years back, someone sent me some scripts to personalized my Jaws startup. I've found that I can't use these scripts in Jaws 10. I'll post them below. Maybe someone can point out what changes need to be made to make these scripts work with Jaws 10. I'm just starting to learn scripting and I'm not familiar with how to update these scripts to make them work with Jaws 10. Any input would be appreciated. Jack If you would like for Jaws to give you the time and date at startup, do the following. 1. press Insert+0. 2. Press ctrl+shift+D. 3. press ctrl+L 4. Arrow down untill you hear autostart event. 5. press enter 6. down arrow untill you find the following 2 lines endIf endIf ; DefaultFirstTime == 0 7. just above where it says, EndIf, create a blank line. You do this by putting your cursor on the E, in EndIf, then hitting enter. Now arrow up once to the blank line you just made. Now, paste in the following text. Remember to personalize the user name. SayString(Hello user name, Today is) Say ( SysGetDate(), ot_string) Say (SysGetTime(), ot_string) SayString(Have a good day!) ** Note that you can change the last line to say whatever you want. Have a good day is just an example.** 8. Now hit ctrl+S to recompile the scripts. 9. You can now hit alt-F4 to close the scripts. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Visit the JAWS Users List
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive
Hi, I know many of you have purchased the Western Digital external hard drive because I remember a conversation regarding this topic. I've had one for several years and have been using it with no problems. I gave one to my son for Christmas and he just can't seem to get the computer to recognize the device. Every time he enters on the drive, he is presented with a list of I guess they are programs such as: autorun.bat. Does anyone have any suggestions so I can help him? He is not a member of this list, but I think he'll probably join before long. Thanks in advance for any help. Jo Luland - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive only files. I have another hard drive and it did not do that. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive I just ran into the same problem this weekend. It happened after installing jaws 9 thumb drive version onto the external hard drive and then trying to boot up the computer with the drive inserted. Is there anything in particular that you have recently put on your external drive? Perhaps it's interfering with the start-up. I can't say much beyond that, though as I didn't ever exactly figure out what happened with my problem either. Kate From: fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive
Jo, ask him to format the drive so that it's blank and ready to use. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: jo luland jolul...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive Hi, I know many of you have purchased the Western Digital external hard drive because I remember a conversation regarding this topic. I've had one for several years and have been using it with no problems. I gave one to my son for Christmas and he just can't seem to get the computer to recognize the device. Every time he enters on the drive, he is presented with a list of I guess they are programs such as: autorun.bat. Does anyone have any suggestions so I can help him? He is not a member of this list, but I think he'll probably join before long. Thanks in advance for any help. Jo Luland - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive only files. I have another hard drive and it did not do that. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive I just ran into the same problem this weekend. It happened after installing jaws 9 thumb drive version onto the external hard drive and then trying to boot up the computer with the drive inserted. Is there anything in particular that you have recently put on your external drive? Perhaps it's interfering with the start-up. I can't say much beyond that, though as I didn't ever exactly figure out what happened with my problem either. Kate From: fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives:
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive
hello; all he needs to do is? format the external-drive, and, he should be good to go then. - Original Message - From: jo luland jolul...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive Hi, I know many of you have purchased the Western Digital external hard drive because I remember a conversation regarding this topic. I've had one for several years and have been using it with no problems. I gave one to my son for Christmas and he just can't seem to get the computer to recognize the device. Every time he enters on the drive, he is presented with a list of I guess they are programs such as: autorun.bat. Does anyone have any suggestions so I can help him? He is not a member of this list, but I think he'll probably join before long. Thanks in advance for any help. Jo Luland - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive only files. I have another hard drive and it did not do that. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive I just ran into the same problem this weekend. It happened after installing jaws 9 thumb drive version onto the external hard drive and then trying to boot up the computer with the drive inserted. Is there anything in particular that you have recently put on your external drive? Perhaps it's interfering with the start-up. I can't say much beyond that, though as I didn't ever exactly figure out what happened with my problem either. Kate From: fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive
Hi Joe, Just to add to what Jack is saying, I've noticed that some external drives are formatted incorrectly as FAT32, when they should be formatted as NTFS. When your friend formats the drive, make sure he specifies NTFS and not FAT32, otherwise he may find the drive crashing at some point. Oh, and for the first time you format it, I would do a complete format, not a quick format, as that will only erase what is on the drive. True, it will take you longer to accomplish the format, but it's always safer to be thorough, than not being thorough enough. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express
Mike, I see where you're coming from. I have had that or a similar experience with one or two emails; so I just paraphrased what they said in a new message instead. (I'm thinking of a forum discussion on some topic that i copied and pasted, and tried to send to a friend. Pictures were being blocked, which might not have helped; but that's default Internet Explorer 7 behaviour wich I didn't want to change. The more advanced JAWS feature become, the more complicated is the nature of the beast it deals with. - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express Hi Flor, When I receive an e-mail that Jaws reads cell or horizontal line, and I attempt to edit the e-mail before forwarding by taking out everything but the message, I totally screw up the message. Therefore, by pasting into Word and cleaning the message up in there, copying it to the clipboard, and then pasting it into a new e-mail I now know that the people I am sending the e-mail to will receive the whole message. I may be taking the long way around the block in doing all this but, I have experimented with other ways with no success. Also Flor, I totally enjoy your posts'. You have taught myself others so much with your vast knowledge. Thank you very much to all the people who contribute to these lists'. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express The person on the receiving end will not get any 'cell' thing. It's an artifact of the new settings - copy full screen content - in JAWS10. . Mike's way of doing it is fine, if you need to go to the trouble. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express How can you edit it? - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express Not in outlook Express per se. Rather, it is a result of the copy full screen content in internet Explorer and other html formatted documents. If you use SayAll instead, you will not see the cell problem much. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express I find it annoying in some emails jaws reads cell in the beginning of each line. Today there was an email that I wanted to send to someone that had a lot of greater signs also at the beginning of each line. Trying to use e-cleaner to remove the greater signs it did not work since when I copied it put everything into one cell. I would guess that this is something in outlook express but haven't found it.Any ideas? --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ Lenny Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com __ NOD32 3820 (20090203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive
Hi Jo, Did the computer assign a letter to the external drive? For example, My Book F. If it did do this, then the computer does recognise the drive. When you open a new external drive, they are usually shipped from the factory with software, like programs to auto backup files and stuff like that. I've actually copied those files off of the external drive and kept them in a folder on my C drive so I could look at them later. Anyway I'm off track... Ask him if the computer does see the external drive. If so, while sitting on the My Book, hit the alt key and bring up the file menue, and arrow down to Format. It will want to do a full erase on it. This can take a couple hours to complete. But once it's done, he will have a clean hard drive that's ready to use. Hope this helped. Jack - Original Message - From: jo luland jolul...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with my book external hard drive Hi, I know many of you have purchased the Western Digital external hard drive because I remember a conversation regarding this topic. I've had one for several years and have been using it with no problems. I gave one to my son for Christmas and he just can't seem to get the computer to recognize the device. Every time he enters on the drive, he is presented with a list of I guess they are programs such as: autorun.bat. Does anyone have any suggestions so I can help him? He is not a member of this list, but I think he'll probably join before long. Thanks in advance for any help. Jo Luland - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive only files. I have another hard drive and it did not do that. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: Kate shamaniclivin1...@hotmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive I just ran into the same problem this weekend. It happened after installing jaws 9 thumb drive version onto the external hard drive and then trying to boot up the computer with the drive inserted. Is there anything in particular that you have recently put on your external drive? Perhaps it's interfering with the start-up. I can't say much beyond that, though as I didn't ever exactly figure out what happened with my problem either. Kate From: fia...@ameritech.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To
Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive
Looks like the USB PORT IS IN THE BOOT SEQUENCE. IF THE DRIVE HAS ANY BOOT INFO ON IT will boot. At 05:06 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting rid of greater signs in a message
Yeppers, I too use email stripper. The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue. - Original Message - From: Michael Moran michael...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting rid of greater signs in a message I use a program called Email stripper. It is simple and does a great job. - Original Message - From: Jack To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting rid of greater signs in a message I've done this many times. You can also do it in HJ Pad and NotePad as well. Just be sure to enter on the replace all button. - Original Message - From: Alan Dicey adi...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting rid of greater signs in a message Hello Friends, You can always paste a messy message you might have received into a Word .doc file, then just hit Control H, which is Find and Replace use the greater sign to find, and leave the Replace blank. It will leave the message clean of those messy greater signs, and your recipients will appreciate it! I do it with about half the forwarded messages I in turn wish to forward. It only takes a couple of seconds! Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express Hi Lenny, While you have the pasted document in Word you can add or delete anything you want before you copy and paste it to the clipboard. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express How can you edit it? - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express Not in outlook Express per se. Rather, it is a result of the copy full screen content in internet Explorer and other html formatted documents. If you use SayAll instead, you will not see the cell problem much. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] cell in outlook express I find it annoying in some emails jaws reads cell in the beginning of each line. Today there was an email that I wanted to send to someone that had a lot of greater signs also at the beginning of each line. Trying to use e-cleaner to remove the greater signs it did not work since when I copied it put everything into one cell. I would guess that this is something in outlook express but haven't found it.Any ideas? --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ Lenny Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com __ NOD32 3820 (20090203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http
Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive
how do I fix it? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] starting pc and hard drive Looks like the USB PORT IS IN THE BOOT SEQUENCE. IF THE DRIVE HAS ANY BOOT INFO ON IT will boot. At 05:06 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Hi, all I have the following problem. My new external hard drive is not letting me start my PC, when I want. I have to disconnect it before I re-star it or will not do anything. Can I do something to the hard drive to prevent this? Kind Regard Holger Fiallo Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] removing braille display
Hello Flor, Yes, after much puzzlement, we uninstalled everything, and then manually removed every remaining file and folder related to FS and the display. A complete reinstall, after which I've discovered that the firewall is blocking the Jaws scripts. Jaws works beautifully when I disable the security program. LOL. Jean Jean Approximatura: A series of notes played by a performer, not intended by the composer. - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing braille display Do you have more than one version of JAWS on your computer? Remove every JAWS version (including shared components) from your computer, and start afresh. After having uninstalled one version, you could then (using windows Explorer) go back into its folder - which remains in the program files folder , and delete it from there. If you have another version of JAWS on your computer, having uninstalled JAWS8 you could use it to do as above. (Then uninstall the other version; and reinstall, start over.) (Or you could download a demo version of another screen-reader, to help in the process.)Or, you could get back to FS and tell them that your problem was not resolved in your first call, etc. - Original Message - From: Jean Menzies jemenz...@shaw.ca To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing braille display Okay, this one has me stumped. I've been having problems with strange error messages using Jaws 8. That's a long story, but I have pretty much determined it comes from corrupted files with the installation of the PacMate braille display. My problem is that no matter what I do, I can't seem to uninstall the display and reinstall it. First, I tried going into the Jaws window, and selecting no display under braille. But it still loads and is present. Then I wanted to remove it and start fresh. I ran the Jaws CD and chose the remove components and tried unsuccessfully to remove it. In the installer, it showed no display and nothing else selected. However, the braille display still loads and comes up working. Since the installer can't remove the files, how can I remove it manually to start fresh? I should mention that in sorting out this problem, I did at one time completely remove Jaws. It had become corrupted and I had to do a manual uninstall with FS help because the installer couldn't run. But even when I did that, I noticed that all the braille folders were left. They weren't deleted. But now I know I need to clean up and start those from scratch. Can anyone help with steps for a manual removal of a braille display? Jean Approximatura: A series of notes played by a performer, not intended by the composer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11660 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11670 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1931 - Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
Hi thanks but how does one highlight with Jaws? Sorry still learning. Karen - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1931 - Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to
[JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 and Word
Hello all, At work I use Jaws 10. I've noticed several problems using Word 2003, and am wondering if others have experienced these things. Yes, I've reported them to FS. I do a lot of work with styles in Word. I often use the BANA braille template that DBT installs into Word for braille production. This involves doing a lot of work with paragraph and character styles. The default for Jaws is to announce styles first when arrowing down through text. However, I've found that for no reason, Jaws will sometimes start announcing the style names after reading the line of text. This means that I can't move through a document quickly because I have to listen to everything on a line before hearing the style name, when in fact I only want to verify style formatting. Sometimes relaunching Jaws helps. Sometimes reloading the file helps but not always. Sometimes I've rebooted the PC with no change. I have no idea what triggers this behaviour or what triggers it to go back to the correct order of reading. FS has no idea either. It does this even when default settings are loaded. It's not any changes that I'm doing. This behaviour also happens with documents created with the normal.dot template which is what is normally used for documents. The second thing I've noticed concerns paragraph marks. I have those turned on so that I know there is a paragraph change and that text hasn't simply just wrapped to a new line. When selecting over a paragraph mark, Jaws remains silent. That's difficult, but not too serious. But if I'm doing a lot of document switching or cut and paste or general up and down movement in a document, the announcement of the paragraph marks disappears. Again, it will return after a while, but I find this behaviour unpredictable. I also find it very distracting to have Jaws announce the new line even when arrowing down through text. I know it's a new line because I'm pressing the down arrow key. LOL. This is with all of the choices of how to report line endings turned off in the Text Processing tab or wherever it is. The only solution I've found is to go into the Speech and Sounds manager, on the Miscellaneous tab I think and change the announcement to a sound, then choose a very subtle sound that I can tune out. I haven't been able to turn this feature totally off. The last problem I'm noticing is that Jaws does not announce anything when selecting paragraphs. Shift-control down arrow to select a paragraph remains silent. Quite difficult when you want to select contiguous paragraphs. Jean Approximatura: A series of notes played by a performer, not intended by the composer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 and Word
I am running Word 2000 with JAWS 10. I find that rout JAWS to PC doesn't work. Is this also true with Word 2003??? thanks. At 09:45 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote: Hello all, At work I use Jaws 10. I've noticed several problems using Word 2003, and am wondering if others have experienced these things. Yes, I've reported them to FS. I do a lot of work with styles in Word. I often use the BANA braille template that DBT installs into Word for braille production. This involves doing a lot of work with paragraph and character styles. The default for Jaws is to announce styles first when arrowing down through text. However, I've found that for no reason, Jaws will sometimes start announcing the style names after reading the line of text. This means that I can't move through a document quickly because I have to listen to everything on a line before hearing the style name, when in fact I only want to verify style formatting. Sometimes relaunching Jaws helps. Sometimes reloading the file helps but not always. Sometimes I've rebooted the PC with no change. I have no idea what triggers this behaviour or what triggers it to go back to the correct order of reading. FS has no idea either. It does this even when default settings are loaded. It's not any changes that I'm doing. This behaviour also happens with documents created with the normal.dot template which is what is normally used for documents. The second thing I've noticed concerns paragraph marks. I have those turned on so that I know there is a paragraph change and that text hasn't simply just wrapped to a new line. When selecting over a paragraph mark, Jaws remains silent. That's difficult, but not too serious. But if I'm doing a lot of document switching or cut and paste or general up and down movement in a document, the announcement of the paragraph marks disappears. Again, it will return after a while, but I find this behaviour unpredictable. I also find it very distracting to have Jaws announce the new line even when arrowing down through text. I know it's a new line because I'm pressing the down arrow key. LOL. This is with all of the choices of how to report line endings turned off in the Text Processing tab or wherever it is. The only solution I've found is to go into the Speech and Sounds manager, on the Miscellaneous tab I think and change the announcement to a sound, then choose a very subtle sound that I can tune out. I haven't been able to turn this feature totally off. The last problem I'm noticing is that Jaws does not announce anything when selecting paragraphs. Shift-control down arrow to select a paragraph remains silent. Quite difficult when you want to select contiguous paragraphs. Jean Approximatura: A series of notes played by a performer, not intended by the composer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
You simply use the up and down arrows to go through the links in your Favorites menu and press the Applications key when you find the one you want to delete. I do not use alt D to delete a bookmark. I am not sure if this works. I simply press the Applications key and then use the up or down arrows to find the delete option and then press enter. You will then be asked to confirm if you want to delete this bookmark. You should be able to move to the Yes or No options by pressing the up or down arrows. However, if your computer encounters a problem similar to mine, JAWS sometimes will not move through the options at this point. If this happens, I usually either minimize the current window and reopen it or simply left click with the mouse. Hope this helps. KB wrote: Hi thanks but how does one highlight with Jaws? Sorry still learning. Karen - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1931 - Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 and Word
I don't know, but I can check tomorrow and report back if no one replies first. Jean Approximatura: A series of notes played by a performer, not intended by the composer. - Original Message - From: Ann byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 and Word I am running Word 2000 with JAWS 10. I find that rout JAWS to PC doesn't work. Is this also true with Word 2003??? thanks. At 09:45 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote: Hello all, At work I use Jaws 10. I've noticed several problems using Word 2003, and am wondering if others have experienced these things. Yes, I've reported them to FS. I do a lot of work with styles in Word. I often use the BANA braille template that DBT installs into Word for braille production. This involves doing a lot of work with paragraph and character styles. The default for Jaws is to announce styles first when arrowing down through text. However, I've found that for no reason, Jaws will sometimes start announcing the style names after reading the line of text. This means that I can't move through a document quickly because I have to listen to everything on a line before hearing the style name, when in fact I only want to verify style formatting. Sometimes relaunching Jaws helps. Sometimes reloading the file helps but not always. Sometimes I've rebooted the PC with no change. I have no idea what triggers this behaviour or what triggers it to go back to the correct order of reading. FS has no idea either. It does this even when default settings are loaded. It's not any changes that I'm doing. This behaviour also happens with documents created with the normal.dot template which is what is normally used for documents. The second thing I've noticed concerns paragraph marks. I have those turned on so that I know there is a paragraph change and that text hasn't simply just wrapped to a new line. When selecting over a paragraph mark, Jaws remains silent. That's difficult, but not too serious. But if I'm doing a lot of document switching or cut and paste or general up and down movement in a document, the announcement of the paragraph marks disappears. Again, it will return after a while, but I find this behaviour unpredictable. I also find it very distracting to have Jaws announce the new line even when arrowing down through text. I know it's a new line because I'm pressing the down arrow key. LOL. This is with all of the choices of how to report line endings turned off in the Text Processing tab or wherever it is. The only solution I've found is to go into the Speech and Sounds manager, on the Miscellaneous tab I think and change the announcement to a sound, then choose a very subtle sound that I can tune out. I haven't been able to turn this feature totally off. The last problem I'm noticing is that Jaws does not announce anything when selecting paragraphs. Shift-control down arrow to select a paragraph remains silent. Quite difficult when you want to select contiguous paragraphs. Jean Approximatura: A series of notes played by a performer, not intended by the composer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386)
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
OK, let's settle this once and for all. *smile* In windows XP. 1. Go to your C drive and find documents and settings. Hit enter. 2. Find your user name in the documents and settings folder and hit enter again. 3. Hit F for favorites, and hit enter. 4. arrow down the list and just hit the delete key on the ones you want to get rid of. 5. When you're done, simply alt-F4 out of Favorites. With Vista, you follow these same steps, but rather than documents and settings, you'll enter on Users. Everything else if the same. Hope this helped. - Original Message - From: Tim t...@nwiusa.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? You simply use the up and down arrows to go through the links in your Favorites menu and press the Applications key when you find the one you want to delete. I do not use alt D to delete a bookmark. I am not sure if this works. I simply press the Applications key and then use the up or down arrows to find the delete option and then press enter. You will then be asked to confirm if you want to delete this bookmark. You should be able to move to the Yes or No options by pressing the up or down arrows. However, if your computer encounters a problem similar to mine, JAWS sometimes will not move through the options at this point. If this happens, I usually either minimize the current window and reopen it or simply left click with the mouse. Hope this helps. KB wrote: Hi thanks but how does one highlight with Jaws? Sorry still learning. Karen - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
I do it the same way too smiles - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1931 - Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
move your cursor up/down arrows will work - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi thanks but how does one highlight with Jaws? Sorry still learning. Karen - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1931 - Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit
[JAWS-Users] removing bullets from text
Hi all, Is there a way to remove bullets from text? Thanks, Lori Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] removing bullets from text
In what program? - Original Message - From: Lori twilig...@kconline.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing bullets from text Hi all, Is there a way to remove bullets from text? Thanks, Lori Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu?
You could do it this way but why would you want to since it takes much longer? You can simply press the alt key in your browser and press the left or right arrow until you find the Favorites menu. Jack wrote: OK, let's settle this once and for all. *smile* In windows XP. 1. Go to your C drive and find documents and settings. Hit enter. 2. Find your user name in the documents and settings folder and hit enter again. 3. Hit F for favorites, and hit enter. 4. arrow down the list and just hit the delete key on the ones you want to get rid of. 5. When you're done, simply alt-F4 out of Favorites. With Vista, you follow these same steps, but rather than documents and settings, you'll enter on Users. Everything else if the same. Hope this helped. - Original Message - From: Tim t...@nwiusa.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? You simply use the up and down arrows to go through the links in your Favorites menu and press the Applications key when you find the one you want to delete. I do not use alt D to delete a bookmark. I am not sure if this works. I simply press the Applications key and then use the up or down arrows to find the delete option and then press enter. You will then be asked to confirm if you want to delete this bookmark. You should be able to move to the Yes or No options by pressing the up or down arrows. However, if your computer encounters a problem similar to mine, JAWS sometimes will not move through the options at this point. If this happens, I usually either minimize the current window and reopen it or simply left click with the mouse. Hope this helps. KB wrote: Hi thanks but how does one highlight with Jaws? Sorry still learning. Karen - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? What I do to delete something off my favorites list is 1 in the favorite list highlight what you want to delete 2 press your applacation key 3 arrow down to delete, or press the letter D then Y for yes hth Patti Thank you. I thought somewhere on favorites and tried but must have left out a step somewhere because alt delete did nothing. But try again. Karen and Harpo.- Original Message - From: rpgutierre...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? try this with IE To delete webpage from favorites list Alt and right arrow to favorites And down arrow to organize favorites and enter Alt plus T and down arrow to the webpage you want to delete Alt D and enter to delete page All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: KB karen...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how does one delete favorite on favorite menu? Hi cannot find the command for this. Thanks.and where to find it? Karen and Harpo. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post
Re: [JAWS-Users] removing bullets from text
Word, any version. Thanks, Lori - Original Message - From: Jean Menzies jemenz...@shaw.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing bullets from text In what program? - Original Message - From: Lori twilig...@kconline.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing bullets from text Hi all, Is there a way to remove bullets from text? Thanks, Lori Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/1/2009 6:02 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] I need help with outlook express please?
Howdy. I hope my explination of this problem isn't too confusing, but I'm finding it hard to move my folders within outlook express, because for some reason the inbox keeps closing, and in order to move my folders or files to different folders within, I have to keep opening the inbox. It keeps saying inbox closed, and that's not happened to me before, until a couple of weeks ago, and damned if I know how that happened. Your help would be much appreciated as always. Thanks in advance. Kimmie. IF THERE is righteousness in the heart, there will be beauty in the character. IF THERE will be beauty in the character, there will be harmony in the home. IF THERE is harmony in the home, there will be order in the nation. WHEN THERE is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world.. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com