[JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.

2010-07-19 Thread Erin
,Hi, I am using windows live mail on windows 7 pro and using jaws 11 
standard in demo mode.


I have my emails going into several folders.  When I tab into a folder jaws 
will read the first email in the following way.


Name of person, date and time received, subject, size and finally that it 
was sent to my email address and what folder it is in.  I really don't want 
it to read all of that info.


Also, jaws will not tell me how many emails are in each folder and after I 
read or delete one jaws says not selected, so I have to select each email in 
turn.


Does anyone know if there is a way ot change this?

I have done research online and cant find anything.

Any help is greatly apprectiated, thank you in advance.

Erin 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] note book and jaws

2010-07-19 Thread Larry Stansifer
John,

If memory serves there was a utility on the JFW programs
page called Decrapifying your Dell.
I used it on my Inspiron running XP-pro and it did a great
job of getting rid of that Dell proprietary software. 
I don't know if it is still around or it works with later
versions of windows.

Larry

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John Justice
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] note book and jaws


Val,
I'm using an HP notebook without any difficulty at all.
The only thing that will take some getting used to is the
missing number pad on your right.  Because that is missing,
you'll have to get used to a whole new set of hotkeys.  but
after a while, they become second nature.

Another thing I'd like to mention is that the virtual mouse
which is part of almost every notebook I have ever seen, is
usually set with the sensitivity very high.  So, if you
touch it accidentally, while you're trying to learn the
keyboard, your focus goes off into the fourth dimension
somewhere. The sensitivity can be reset or the mouse can be
turned off completely within the Control Panel. I dislike
double tapping that Caps lock key to get the system to
recognize a shifted word but other than that, I like mine
very well. One thing though, and I know I'll probably hear
about this from someone, I don't like the proprietary
software that Dell loads onto their laptop and notebook
computers. That, at times, can really give you some grief.
All in all Dell makes good equipment but I wish there was a
way to get it barefoot.

Good luck and you can't go wrong with HP.  that has been my
experience. There are some on this list like Andy who don't
like HP much but they have always backed me up better than
any other computer manufacturer I have worked with. Andy is
right though.  they did make some serious losers a while
ago.  But their new equipment is really excellent and the
prices are quite reasonable.

John Justice  

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] note book and jaws

Hi Listers
I have Jaws 11 on a dongle and would like to know what note
book works well with this version, specifications, and are
there any issues installing Jaws on a note book I should be
aware of, do all the applications work etc. cheers the wolf 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread chris hallsworth

Yes there is a diskpart program like there is on XP.


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On 19/07/2010 0:29, Alan  Terrie Robbins wrote:

Does Window's 7 have a diskpart program that you can run
from the run dialogue box like XP does? If so, you can use
this

Al

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of
Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in
Windows 7


Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible,
i've just tried
it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
sollution soon
when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
portable
partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
apps with
out installation.

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7,

according to Norton.

It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen.

I am sure

it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how

accessible it

is, though.

Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should

be

accessible through the disk management aplet.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.

djrisav...@cox.net

To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in

Windows 7




Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader

and see what

happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't

compatible

with
win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning

hard drives.


So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's

happening or

going
on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf

Of chris

hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in

Windows 7


Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list.

Unfortunately, it is not

possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment.

Virtual PC

creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't

understand that

it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual

terminal

session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks

you're trying to

run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work

and instead

display an error message and quits. For the record, other

screen readers

work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



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On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use

Jaws 11 in

Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that

aren't or

won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to

successfully

use
Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program

2010-07-19 Thread chris hallsworth
Hi steve I see what you mean about the XP emulation but I like it 
because not only can I run my old programs but also I may have problems 
or queries from XP users, which will be many for the time being at least.



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On 19/07/2010 0:06, Steve wrote:

Francis,

A couple things to consider...

First, is there a driving need for you to upgrade? Windows XP with SP3
will be supported by Microsoft into 2014. So, you could get another
three years out of your current computer.

Second, consider your computer. How current is it in terms of specs,
etc? Run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor available at Microsoft.com to be
sure your system will support Windows 7 and whether you need to update
drivers for printers, scanners, etc. I've worked on some clients
computer systems where we had to purchase new printers or scanners
because their scanner didn't have drivers for Windows 7. This is
particularly the case for 64-bit versions of Windows (the 32-bit
versions are harder to find in pre-configured systems).

Third, is their a particular reason you need Win 7 Pro? It does have XP
emulation, but that may/may not be supported in Jaws, and it is rarely
needed except for certain specific programs. I know some gamers for
example who use it. Unless you have specific needs, Home Premium would
be adequate. Note, with Win 7 Pro, you will need the Professional
Authorization of Jaws.

As for price, Professional will be about $200, versus around $100-125
for HP if you look around.

Hint: you can actually do a full installation from an upgrade disk,
which would save you some money.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program



At this time I am using Windows XP Home with Service Pack 3 and from
what I am hearing it might be in order to upgrade to an upgrade. What
will it cost me to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Pro? And are there any
tutorials I can download to study?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.

2010-07-19 Thread Hans Pauli Sundstein
Hi Erin.

You can under the view menu and Columns, select and deselect which columns 
to been shown on the screen, and thereby beeing read by Jaws.

Use Insert+PageDown to read the status bar, and be informed by how many 
messages are in the current folder, and how many of them are unread.

Hans Pauli.

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Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sendt: 19. juli 2010 06:05
Emne: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.


,Hi, I am using windows live mail on windows 7 pro and using jaws 11
standard in demo mode.

I have my emails going into several folders.  When I tab into a folder jaws
will read the first email in the following way.

Name of person, date and time received, subject, size and finally that it
was sent to my email address and what folder it is in.  I really don't want
it to read all of that info.

Also, jaws will not tell me how many emails are in each folder and after I
read or delete one jaws says not selected, so I have to select each email in
turn.

Does anyone know if there is a way ot change this?

I have done research online and cant find anything.

Any help is greatly apprectiated, thank you in advance.

Erin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

2010-07-19 Thread Kliph
By the way, where did you get these scripts from?

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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

To much trouble, think I will just wait until jaws 12 is released.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

HI

At least in the Outlook 2010 beta, to select which e-mail account to send a
message, do the following.  When positioned in the send/to field, press
shift+tab 4 times until you reach the From button.  Press enter.  Route JAWS
cursor to PC cursor Move the JAWS cursor one word to the right and you will
be at the top of the list of e-mail accounts.  Arrow down to the account you
want and press enter.  To verify  you've got the right account, do another
route JAWS cursor to PC cursor and do a say line.

The biggest problem I've had with the Office 2010 beta since JAWS 11.0.1430
came out with scripts for Office 2010 is that often in outlook and word
2010, when I do a Say All, it will only read one line and then stop.

I have put 
entries in my own confignames.ini file to use the Office 2007 scripts for
office and word.  Say  All works much better with those scripts.


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-l...@jaw-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

It worked well for me except 1 thing, you could not choose which email
account you wanted to send from, you had to be in the selected accounts in
box in order to send from that account, has this been changed?  Can you now
switch on the fly?

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ishe Chinyoka
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:57 PM
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Sure it works well with JAWS.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.


 Does Jaws work well with this program? Jim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there an easier way to check yahoo mail using jaws?

2010-07-19 Thread Potter, Kurtis
You can try toggling the virtual cursor on and off by (JAWS Key + Z).
Also using the Yahoo mobile works go to:
m.yahoo.com/mail


Thanks,
Kurt

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Tijerina
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is there an easier way to check yahoo mail using
jaws?

friends, i'm at my wits end here.
I'm having a fight with yahoo mail.
I don't know if it's jaws or firefox that's stalling whenever I go to 
my stupid yahoo inbox to check my mail.
I press jaws plus page down and it says, down. but if I arrow up or 
down jaws doesn't say anything.
any suggestions?


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[JAWS-Users] How do I go back to internet explorer 6?

2010-07-19 Thread Scott Meyer
Hi Tried internet explorer 8 and would like to go back to 6 , how do I do that
Regards
Scott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I go back to internet explorer 6?

2010-07-19 Thread Donald Marang
I do not recommend going back to InternetExplorer 6 just because it is such 
a security nightmare!  What version of Windows are you using?  If you are 
running Windows 7, you are stuck with IE 8.  If you are running XP or Vista, 
there should be a Internet Explorer 8 in the Add/Remove Control Panel in 
XP or the Program and Features Control Panel in Vista.  Uninstalling IE 8 
should take you back to whatever version you were using just before 
upgrrading to IE 8.  If it takes you back to IE 6, please do yourself a 
favor and upgrade to IE 7.


Don Marang

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How do I go back to internet explorer 6?

Hi Tried internet explorer 8 and would like to go back to 6 , how do I do 
that

Regards
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread Negoslav Sabev
Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor. insert+alt+w 
for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.


Negoslav
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just tried 
it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible sollution soon 
when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a portable partition 
manager as i've always been a fan of click and run apps with out 
installation.


Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to Norton. It 
hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I am sure it 
won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible it is, 
though.


Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be accessible 
through the disk management aplet.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr. djrisav...@cox.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see what
happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't compatible 
with

win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.

So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening or 
going

on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and instead
display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen readers
work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



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On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in Windows 
XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or 
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to successfully 
use

Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program

2010-07-19 Thread Francis E. Khan

Steve:

My computer works well with XP Home with Service Pack 3 and now that I know 
that it will work for another three years or so, I might as well continue 
with this version.  It was my intention to ask a friend to purchase Version 
7 but will cancel that request.


I changed to Jaws Professional from Version 7.1 a few years ago so when I 
need to upgrade to another version of Windows it won't be necessary to 
upgrade to Professional.


The mother board on my computer was changed earlier this year and the only 
thing I need to purchase is a scanner to use with my Kurzweil Version 11 as 
I want to make some DAISY files to read with my Bookport Plus player. 
However, I need to learn to use MS 2007 as I have Office 2003.  I was given 
Office 2007 for my birthday in February.


Thanks for all your advice.
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From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program



Francis,

A couple things to consider...

First, is there a driving need for you to upgrade?  Windows XP with SP3 
will be supported by Microsoft into 2014.  So, you could get another three 
years out of your current computer.


Second, consider your computer.  How current is it in terms of specs, etc? 
Run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor available at Microsoft.com to be sure 
your system will support Windows 7 and whether you need to update drivers 
for printers, scanners, etc.  I've worked on some clients computer systems 
where we had to purchase new printers or scanners because their scanner 
didn't have drivers for Windows 7.  This is particularly the case for 
64-bit versions of Windows (the 32-bit versions are harder to find in 
pre-configured systems).


Third, is their a particular reason you need Win 7 Pro?  It does have XP 
emulation, but that may/may not be supported in Jaws, and it is rarely 
needed except for certain specific programs.  I know some gamers for 
example who use it.  Unless you have specific needs, Home Premium would be 
adequate. Note, with Win 7 Pro, you will need the Professional 
Authorization of Jaws.


As for price, Professional will be about $200, versus around $100-125 for 
HP if you look around.


Hint:  you can actually do a full installation from an upgrade disk, which 
would save you some money.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
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From: Francis E. Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt

To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program


At this time I am using Windows XP Home with Service Pack 3 and from what 
I am hearing it might be in order to upgrade to an upgrade.  What will it 
cost me to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Pro?  And are there any tutorials 
I can download to study?

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[JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland
OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first.  Yes, I 
am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 'em, but 
that isn't the point, in this case.


I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I not 
only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs like 
Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self voicing 
that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that with the solo direct voices as 
they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries.  Bottom line, it 
won't work.  Anyway, so here is my question to you pc geeks out there like 
myself.  I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday.  It's running Windows 7 
Home Premium 64 bit Edition.  So my question is, when I ran the installer 
for the real speak voices, it said they'd not run on a 64 bit OS.  So, 
having said that, this leads me to actually two questions.


The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way to get 
around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can I get a 
64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer.


My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under 
the impression that anything 32 bit
architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! you 
can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you run 
x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I thought the annalogy 
worked like this:




Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! of 
those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not taking over the 
whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it.  I hear 64 bit 
worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit apps on 64 
bit


architect, but, on the other hand, don't try running 64 bit on a 32 bit only 
capable OS/hardware system.  am I not understanding this whole 32/64 bit 
thing correctly?  Actually, I don't even get the difference, really per sey. 
I know better graffics, as if that really matters to me, and faster speed, 
supposedly, but I've honestly not seen much speed difference between my old 
32 bit xp machine and this 64 bit win7 machine.




Hmm, Chris ponders.



Anyway, let me know you all's suggestions and maybe someone also can fill me 
in on the differences in 64 vs. 32 bit, and what can run where.




Thank you kindly.



Chris.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jawsreads it.

2010-07-19 Thread Erin

Thank you so much.

I was looking through view too but just couldn't find it.


- Original Message - 
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein h...@hapasu.dk

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jawsreads 
it.




Hi Erin.

You can under the view menu and Columns, select and deselect which columns
to been shown on the screen, and thereby beeing read by Jaws.

Use Insert+PageDown to read the status bar, and be informed by how many
messages are in the current folder, and how many of them are unread.

Hans Pauli.

- Oprindelig meddelelse - 
Fra: Erin erinandspen...@yahoo.com

Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sendt: 19. juli 2010 06:05
Emne: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.


,Hi, I am using windows live mail on windows 7 pro and using jaws 11
standard in demo mode.

I have my emails going into several folders.  When I tab into a folder 
jaws

will read the first email in the following way.

Name of person, date and time received, subject, size and finally that it
was sent to my email address and what folder it is in.  I really don't 
want

it to read all of that info.

Also, jaws will not tell me how many emails are in each folder and after I
read or delete one jaws says not selected, so I have to select each email 
in

turn.

Does anyone know if there is a way ot change this?

I have done research online and cant find anything.

Any help is greatly apprectiated, thank you in advance.

Erin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Graham Smith

   Hi

I agree with you, just wondering if you had had any luck with reading HP's 
software, to me it us just not accessible with jaws.  Like you I have just 
purchased an HP laptop with same spec as yu mention.


There are hot keys for function key which I am unable to find out, I know 
that funtion key f3 opens internet explorer but I am unable to read anything 
on the hp shortcuts page to find out what they are, have you had any luck in 
this respect?


Another problem I have is a reminder window popping up, when I had a pair of 
eyes hear it was reminding me to create a set of recovery discs which I did 
but I dont have a pair of eyes now and the reminder window has started to 
pop up again, dont know if it is the same reminder and that I have to check 
the box to not show this message again or if there something that I should 
be doing. Latest jaws will not touch this reminder window, I cannot 
virtualise the window or use the jaws cursor anything. any ideas if this 
window can be read at all?


I would not buy anything else other Hp because I have used them in the past 
and had no trouble at all, guess I have been lucky but their software is not 
accessible, but I have most of it disabled anyway.


So basically my question is any ideas if it is possible to read these pop up 
windows which I am assuming ar HP based and are not accessible with jaws? 
and does anyone out there have a list of the function key shortcuts with HP?


Appreciate any advice

Graham

--
From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first.  Yes, 
I am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 'em, but 
that isn't the point, in this case.


I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I not 
only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs 
like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self 
voicing that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that with the solo direct 
voices as they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries. 
Bottom line, it won't work.  Anyway, so here is my question to you pc 
geeks out there like myself.  I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday. 
It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Edition.  So my question is, 
when I ran the installer for the real speak voices, it said they'd not run 
on a 64 bit OS.  So, having said that, this leads me to actually two 
questions.


The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way to 
get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can I 
get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer.


My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under 
the impression that anything 32 bit
architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! you 
can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you 
run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I thought the 
annalogy worked like this:




Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! 
of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not taking over 
the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it.  I hear 64 bit 
worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit apps on 64 
bit


architect, but, on the other hand, don't try running 64 bit on a 32 bit 
only capable OS/hardware system.  am I not understanding this whole 32/64 
bit thing correctly?  Actually, I don't even get the difference, really 
per sey. I know better graffics, as if that really matters to me, and 
faster speed, supposedly, but I've honestly not seen much speed difference 
between my old 32 bit xp machine and this 64 bit win7 machine.




Hmm, Chris ponders.



Anyway, let me know you all's suggestions and maybe someone also can fill 
me in on the differences in 64 vs. 32 bit, and what can run where.




Thank you kindly.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland
How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how then 
do I get it to work?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7


Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor. 
insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.


Negoslav
- Original Message - 
From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just tried 
it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible sollution soon 
when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a portable partition 
manager as i've always been a fan of click and run apps with out 
installation.


Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to Norton. 
It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I am sure it 
won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible it 
is, though.


Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be accessible 
through the disk management aplet.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr. 
djrisav...@cox.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see what
happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't compatible 
with

win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.

So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening or 
going

on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and instead
display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen 
readers

work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in 
Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or 
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to successfully 
use

Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread chris hallsworth
Hi so long as you have at least 2GB of RAM and a 2GHZ processor XP Mode 
should run fine without problems. In the past hardware virtualization 
must be supported and if so enabled in the computer's BIOS. But an 
update to Virtual PC made this optional now and not manditory.



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On 19/07/2010 18:17, Chris Gilland wrote:

How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how
then do I get it to work?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor.
insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.

Negoslav
- Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just
tried it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
sollution soon when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
portable partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
apps with out installation.

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to
Norton. It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I
am sure it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible
it is, though.

Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be
accessible through the disk management aplet.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.
djrisav...@cox.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see what
happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't
compatible with
win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.

So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening
or going
on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is
not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand
that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're
trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and instead
display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen
readers
work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in
Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to
successfully use
Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland

Well, I can tell you a few things:

if you have a num pad

fn+num pad plus and minus are your volume up and down,

fn+numpad star, which basically is the same key used for a right mouse 
button in jfw, is your mute toggle on and off


fn+F7 and fn+F8 are your screen brightness

Those're the only ones at this point that I know of.

I'll have to try your fn+F3.

I didn't know about that but if that works, that would be awesome!

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: Graham Smith g.smith...@rogers.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question



   Hi

I agree with you, just wondering if you had had any luck with reading HP's 
software, to me it us just not accessible with jaws.  Like you I have just 
purchased an HP laptop with same spec as yu mention.


There are hot keys for function key which I am unable to find out, I know 
that funtion key f3 opens internet explorer but I am unable to read 
anything on the hp shortcuts page to find out what they are, have you had 
any luck in this respect?


Another problem I have is a reminder window popping up, when I had a pair 
of eyes hear it was reminding me to create a set of recovery discs which I 
did but I dont have a pair of eyes now and the reminder window has started 
to pop up again, dont know if it is the same reminder and that I have to 
check the box to not show this message again or if there something that I 
should be doing. Latest jaws will not touch this reminder window, I cannot 
virtualise the window or use the jaws cursor anything. any ideas if this 
window can be read at all?


I would not buy anything else other Hp because I have used them in the 
past and had no trouble at all, guess I have been lucky but their software 
is not accessible, but I have most of it disabled anyway.


So basically my question is any ideas if it is possible to read these pop 
up windows which I am assuming ar HP based and are not accessible with 
jaws? and does anyone out there have a list of the function key shortcuts 
with HP?


Appreciate any advice

Graham

--
From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first. 
Yes, I am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 
'em, but that isn't the point, in this case.


I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I not 
only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs 
like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self 
voicing that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that with the solo direct 
voices as they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries. 
Bottom line, it won't work.  Anyway, so here is my question to you pc 
geeks out there like myself.  I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday. 
It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Edition.  So my question is, 
when I ran the installer for the real speak voices, it said they'd not 
run on a 64 bit OS.  So, having said that, this leads me to actually two 
questions.


The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way to 
get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can 
I get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer.


My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under 
the impression that anything 32 bit
architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! you 
can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you 
run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I thought the 
annalogy worked like this:




Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! 
of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not taking 
over the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it.  I hear 
64 bit worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit 
apps on 64 bit


architect, but, on the other hand, don't try running 64 bit on a 32 bit 
only capable OS/hardware system.  am I not understanding this whole 32/64 
bit thing correctly?  Actually, I don't even get the difference, really 
per sey. I know better graffics, as if that really matters to me, and 
faster speed, supposedly, but I've honestly not seen much speed 
difference between my old 32 bit xp machine and this 64 bit win7 machine.




Hmm, Chris ponders.



Anyway, let me know you all's suggestions and maybe someone also can fill 
me in on the differences in 64 vs. 32 bit, and what can run where.




Thank you kindly.



Chris.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Flor Lynch
If you have a JAWS8 CD, you could try installing the unlocked SAPI5 and 
RealSpeak voices from it.  there's also a problem with 32-bit braille 
drivers, probably related to what you have so far found.


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question


OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first. 
Yes, I am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 
'em, but that isn't the point, in this case.


I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I 
not only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other 
programs like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. 
which are self voicing that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that 
with the solo direct voices as they use their own propriatary 
module/driver/dll libraries.  Bottom line, it won't work.  Anyway, so 
here is my question to you pc geeks out there like myself.  I just got 
an hp laptop last Wednesday.  It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 
bit Edition.  So my question is, when I ran the installer for the real 
speak voices, it said they'd not run on a 64 bit OS.  So, having said 
that, this leads me to actually two questions.


The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way 
to get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if 
not, can I get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted 
installer.


My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was 
under the impression that anything 32 bit
architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! 
you can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, 
can you run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I 
thought the annalogy worked like this:




Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 
2! of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not 
taking over the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down 
it.  I hear 64 bit worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit 
apps, or! 32 bit apps on 64 bit


architect, but, on the other hand, don't try running 64 bit on a 32 
bit only capable OS/hardware system.  am I not understanding this 
whole 32/64 bit thing correctly?  Actually, I don't even get the 
difference, really per sey. I know better graffics, as if that really 
matters to me, and faster speed, supposedly, but I've honestly not 
seen much speed difference between my old 32 bit xp machine and this 
64 bit win7 machine.




Hmm, Chris ponders.



Anyway, let me know you all's suggestions and maybe someone also can 
fill me in on the differences in 64 vs. 32 bit, and what can run 
where.




Thank you kindly.



Chris.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland
I got dule core 2.0ghz, intel, and 3 gigs of ram, windows 7 home premium 64 
bit edition.


So I suppose that would work?  If so, how do I get started?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7


Hi so long as you have at least 2GB of RAM and a 2GHZ processor XP Mode 
should run fine without problems. In the past hardware virtualization must 
be supported and if so enabled in the computer's BIOS. But an update to 
Virtual PC made this optional now and not manditory.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 19/07/2010 18:17, Chris Gilland wrote:

How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how
then do I get it to work?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor.
insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.

Negoslav
- Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal 
mobeeniq...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just
tried it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
sollution soon when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
portable partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
apps with out installation.

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to
Norton. It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I
am sure it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible
it is, though.

Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be
accessible through the disk management aplet.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.
djrisav...@cox.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see what
happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't
compatible with
win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.

So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening
or going
on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is
not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand
that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're
trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and instead
display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen
readers
work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in
Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to
successfully use
Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread chris hallsworth
Oops, no that will not work. You must have Windows 7 Pro or up to use 
Windows XP Mode.



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On 19/07/2010 18:38, Chris Gilland wrote:

I got dule core 2.0ghz, intel, and 3 gigs of ram, windows 7 home premium
64 bit edition.

So I suppose that would work? If so, how do I get started?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: chris hallsworth
christopher...@googlemail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi so long as you have at least 2GB of RAM and a 2GHZ processor XP
Mode should run fine without problems. In the past hardware
virtualization must be supported and if so enabled in the computer's
BIOS. But an update to Virtual PC made this optional now and not
manditory.


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On 19/07/2010 18:17, Chris Gilland wrote:

How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how
then do I get it to work?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor.
insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.

Negoslav
- Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal
mobeeniq...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just
tried it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
sollution soon when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
portable partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
apps with out installation.

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to
Norton. It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I
am sure it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible
it is, though.

Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be
accessible through the disk management aplet.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.
djrisav...@cox.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see
what
happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't
compatible with
win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.

So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening
or going
on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is
not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand
that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're
trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and
instead
display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen
readers
work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in
Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to
successfully use
Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland
I have a jaws 8 disc somewhere around here, yes, but, does that have 
something aside the voices installer I gotta run?  I'm kind a confused.


I thought the real speak installer was basically all there was to it as 
faras getting the voices to work.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question


If you have a JAWS8 CD, you could try installing the unlocked SAPI5 and 
RealSpeak voices from it.  there's also a problem with 32-bit braille 
drivers, probably related to what you have so far found.


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question


OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first. Yes, 
I am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 'em, 
but that isn't the point, in this case.


I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I not 
only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs 
like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self 
voicing that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that with the solo direct 
voices as they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries. 
Bottom line, it won't work.  Anyway, so here is my question to you pc 
geeks out there like myself.  I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday. 
It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Edition.  So my question is, 
when I ran the installer for the real speak voices, it said they'd not 
run on a 64 bit OS.  So, having said that, this leads me to actually two 
questions.


The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way to 
get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can 
I get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer.


My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under 
the impression that anything 32 bit
architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! you 
can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you 
run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I thought the 
annalogy worked like this:




Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! 
of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not taking 
over the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it.  I hear 
64 bit worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit 
apps on 64 bit


architect, but, on the other hand, don't try running 64 bit on a 32 bit 
only capable OS/hardware system.  am I not understanding this whole 32/64 
bit thing correctly?  Actually, I don't even get the difference, really 
per sey. I know better graffics, as if that really matters to me, and 
faster speed, supposedly, but I've honestly not seen much speed 
difference between my old 32 bit xp machine and this 64 bit win7 machine.




Hmm, Chris ponders.



Anyway, let me know you all's suggestions and maybe someone also can fill 
me in on the differences in 64 vs. 32 bit, and what can run where.




Thank you kindly.



Chris.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
Try function f10 for volume down and function f11 for volume up

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

Well, I can tell you a few things:

if you have a num pad

fn+num pad plus and minus are your volume up and down,

fn+numpad star, which basically is the same key used for a right mouse 
button in jfw, is your mute toggle on and off

fn+F7 and fn+F8 are your screen brightness

Those're the only ones at this point that I know of.

I'll have to try your fn+F3.

I didn't know about that but if that works, that would be awesome!

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: Graham Smith g.smith...@rogers.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question


Hi

 I agree with you, just wondering if you had had any luck with reading HP's 
 software, to me it us just not accessible with jaws.  Like you I have just 
 purchased an HP laptop with same spec as yu mention.

 There are hot keys for function key which I am unable to find out, I know 
 that funtion key f3 opens internet explorer but I am unable to read 
 anything on the hp shortcuts page to find out what they are, have you had 
 any luck in this respect?

 Another problem I have is a reminder window popping up, when I had a pair 
 of eyes hear it was reminding me to create a set of recovery discs which I 
 did but I dont have a pair of eyes now and the reminder window has started 
 to pop up again, dont know if it is the same reminder and that I have to 
 check the box to not show this message again or if there something that I 
 should be doing. Latest jaws will not touch this reminder window, I cannot 
 virtualise the window or use the jaws cursor anything. any ideas if this 
 window can be read at all?

 I would not buy anything else other Hp because I have used them in the 
 past and had no trouble at all, guess I have been lucky but their software 
 is not accessible, but I have most of it disabled anyway.

 So basically my question is any ideas if it is possible to read these pop 
 up windows which I am assuming ar HP based and are not accessible with 
 jaws? and does anyone out there have a list of the function key shortcuts 
 with HP?

 Appreciate any advice

 Graham

 --
 From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:49 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

 OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first. 
 Yes, I am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 
 'em, but that isn't the point, in this case.

 I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I not 
 only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs 
 like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self 
 voicing that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that with the solo direct 
 voices as they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries. 
 Bottom line, it won't work.  Anyway, so here is my question to you pc 
 geeks out there like myself.  I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday. 
 It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Edition.  So my question is, 
 when I ran the installer for the real speak voices, it said they'd not 
 run on a 64 bit OS.  So, having said that, this leads me to actually two 
 questions.

 The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way to 
 get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can 
 I get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer.

 My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under 
 the impression that anything 32 bit
 architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! you 
 can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you 
 run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I thought the 
 annalogy worked like this:



 Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! 
 of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not taking 
 over the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it.  I hear 
 64 bit worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit 
 apps on 64 bit

 architect, but, on the other hand, don't try running 64 bit on a 32 bit 
 only capable OS/hardware system.  am I not understanding this whole 32/64 
 bit thing correctly?  Actually, I don't even get the difference, really 
 per sey. I know better graffics, as if that really matters to me, and 
 faster speed, supposedly, but I've honestly not seen much speed 
 difference between my old 32 bit xp machine and this 64 bit win7 machine.



 Hmm, Chris 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland
ok, thank God you told me, as I don't wanna crash my system like I did once 
trying to tget this to work.  Smile.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7


Oops, no that will not work. You must have Windows 7 Pro or up to use 
Windows XP Mode.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
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MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
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On 19/07/2010 18:38, Chris Gilland wrote:

I got dule core 2.0ghz, intel, and 3 gigs of ram, windows 7 home premium
64 bit edition.

So I suppose that would work? If so, how do I get started?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: chris hallsworth
christopher...@googlemail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi so long as you have at least 2GB of RAM and a 2GHZ processor XP
Mode should run fine without problems. In the past hardware
virtualization must be supported and if so enabled in the computer's
BIOS. But an update to Virtual PC made this optional now and not
manditory.


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MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 19/07/2010 18:17, Chris Gilland wrote:

How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how
then do I get it to work?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor.
insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.

Negoslav
- Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal
mobeeniq...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just
tried it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
sollution soon when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
portable partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
apps with out installation.

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to
Norton. It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I
am sure it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible
it is, though.

Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be
accessible through the disk management aplet.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.
djrisav...@cox.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see
what
happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't
compatible with
win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard 
drives.


So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening
or going
on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is
not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand
that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're
trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and
instead
display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen
readers
work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in
Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to
successfully use
Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







For answers to frequently asked 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 tutorials

2010-07-19 Thread DJ
Thank you very much for those links.  They will be helpful.  I never can
remember all of the good tricks so this is a blessings.  Thanks again.

DJ

 

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Francis E. Khan
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 tutorials

 http://www.lboro.ac.uk/it/access/word2007-key-tips.html

 http://www.lboro.ac.uk/it/access/excel2007-key-tips.html


- Original Message -
From: DJ grou...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 tutorials


I would like the info.  Thank you.


 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Francis E. 
 Khan
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 tutorials

 I am going through my e-mails and have just opened your message dated 
 March
 21, 2010 about 2007 commands.  If you still have the link to access these
 commands, I would be glad to get it.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 tutorials


 Access Technology Institute has a tutorial. I have a link to a  list
 of Word 2007 commands at home.  Will be happy to send you the link
 tomorrow when we get back from sunny Florida.  Home is near Chicago,
 with snow on the ground.  Remind me, if I forget.

 Ann


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

2010-07-19 Thread Donald Marang
Moving to 64 bit does not necessarily increase the performance of the 
computer over 32 bit.  Even on tasks where manipulating large chunks of data 
like video editing and transcoding will only be faster if the software is 
designed to take advantage of the 64 bit architecture and multiple cores / 
hyper threading.  Frankly, multiple cores and hyper threading, which is used 
in the new I5 or I7 processors, currently provide a bigger performance 
boost.  Keep in mind, that most applications and people work with 
characters, which do not require 64 bits of information.  A 64 bit Operating 
System is absolutely necessary to use more than 4 GB of RAM memory.  This is 
the prime reason to go to 64 bit Windows 7 right now.


I am currently not using a 64 bit edition of Windows 7, so I can not yet 
speak from experience.  Generally, you are right about being able to run 
most 32 bit applications on a 64 bit edition of Windows 7.  I understand 
there are still some applications that have compatibility issues.  Mostly 
these are older applications.  I heard that for some bizarre reason, the 
Adobe Flash Player plug-inn for Internet Explorer is not available that runs 
in the 64 bit edition of Internet Explorer, so you must use the 32 bit 
edition of Internet Explorer to view pages with Flash!  It seems that on a 
64 bit edition of Windows 7, there are 2 different editions of Internet 
Explorer.  I do not understand how the typical user is supposed to know 
which to use with which sites.  Someone let me know if this is no longer the 
case.  It would be shocking if Adobe could not deliver a 64 bit version 
ofFlash by now!


One big exception to the highway analogy is any type of software or hardware 
drivers that are required to communicate with the hardware.  Even though 
Microsoft and Intel heavily push for switching to 64 bit systems, not all 
hardware manufacturer's are as excited and have not provided the necessary 
drivers.  I imagine the Real Speak voices or at least their interface to 
SAPI5 would need to have a 64 bit specific version.  I guess looking back to 
the highway analogy it is more like driving an extra wide tractor trailer 
down a 4 lane busy road with commercial entrances to McDonalds... directly 
feeding onto the road.  To get to higher speeds it would take major work and 
build service roads / ramps to bring it up to Interstate standards.


Microsoft is attempting to improve their architecture, but without dropping 
support for legacy  (older software), this is almost impossible.


Don Marang

--
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question

If you have a JAWS8 CD, you could try installing the unlocked SAPI5 and 
RealSpeak voices from it.  there's also a problem with 32-bit braille 
drivers, probably related to what you have so far found.


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question


OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first. Yes, 
I am aware of the solo direct voices.  I know also how to install 'em, 
but that isn't the point, in this case.


I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices.  I not 
only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs 
like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self 
voicing that I wanna use them with.  I can't do that with the solo direct 
voices as they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries. 
Bottom line, it won't work.  Anyway, so here is my question to you pc 
geeks out there like myself.  I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday. 
It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Edition.  So my question is, 
when I ran the installer for the real speak voices, it said they'd not 
run on a 64 bit OS.  So, having said that, this leads me to actually two 
questions.


The first question which probably is the obvious is:  is there a way to 
get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can 
I get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer.


My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under 
the impression that anything 32 bit
architect would run on a 64 bit OS.  Now, granted, I know for a fact! you 
can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you 
run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS.  That's obvious.  But I thought the 
annalogy worked like this:




Say you have a 4 lane highway.  OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! 
of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it.  You're not taking 
over the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it.  I hear 
64 bit worked much the same way.  You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit 
apps on 64 bit


architect, but, on 

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

2010-07-19 Thread Mike O'Brien
The scripts come with JAWS.   The office 2007 scripts have been available
since JAWS 8.  The Office 2010 scripts were first available with JAWS
11.0.1430.  You can find them in the JAWS shared settings folder.  Look for
Microsoft Outlook 20xx or Microsoft Word 20xx (where xx is 07 or 10.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

By the way, where did you get these scripts from?

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

To much trouble, think I will just wait until jaws 12 is released.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

HI

At least in the Outlook 2010 beta, to select which e-mail account to send a
message, do the following.  When positioned in the send/to field, press
shift+tab 4 times until you reach the From button.  Press enter.  Route 
shift+JAWS
cursor to PC cursor Move the JAWS cursor one word to the right and you will
be at the top of the list of e-mail accounts.  Arrow down to the account you
want and press enter.  To verify  you've got the right account, do another
route JAWS cursor to PC cursor and do a say line.

The biggest problem I've had with the Office 2010 beta since JAWS 11.0.1430
came out with scripts for Office 2010 is that often in outlook and word
2010, when I do a Say All, it will only read one line and then stop.

I have put
entries in my own confignames.ini file to use the Office 2007 scripts for
office and word.  Say  All works much better with those scripts.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-l...@jaw-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

It worked well for me except 1 thing, you could not choose which email
account you wanted to send from, you had to be in the selected accounts in
box in order to send from that account, has this been changed?  Can you now
switch on the fly?

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ishe Chinyoka
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.

Sure it works well with JAWS.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@verizon.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:06 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 windows 7 and office 2010.


 Does Jaws work well with this program? Jim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jawsreads it.

2010-07-19 Thread Erin
Hi, everything you suggested worked on my desktop which has windows xp on 
it.


However, when I opened windows live mail and went to view it said columns 
was unavailable.  Also, pressing insert with page down only said details but 
did not elaborate.


--
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein h...@hapasu.dk
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 6:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jawsreads 
it.



Hi Erin.

You can under the view menu and Columns, select and deselect which columns
to been shown on the screen, and thereby beeing read by Jaws.

Use Insert+PageDown to read the status bar, and be informed by how many
messages are in the current folder, and how many of them are unread.

Hans Pauli.

- Oprindelig meddelelse - 
Fra: Erin erinandspen...@yahoo.com

Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sendt: 19. juli 2010 06:05
Emne: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.


,Hi, I am using windows live mail on windows 7 pro and using jaws 11
standard in demo mode.

I have my emails going into several folders.  When I tab into a folder 
jaws

will read the first email in the following way.

Name of person, date and time received, subject, size and finally that it
was sent to my email address and what folder it is in.  I really don't 
want

it to read all of that info.

Also, jaws will not tell me how many emails are in each folder and after I
read or delete one jaws says not selected, so I have to select each email 
in

turn.

Does anyone know if there is a way ot change this?

I have done research online and cant find anything.

Any help is greatly apprectiated, thank you in advance.

Erin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.

2010-07-19 Thread David
Hello Erin;

first, go to the view menu, alt+v, and down or up arrow, making sure that, 
status bar is checked.

Next,  again, go to the view menu, alt+v,

now, press the letter C=columns, press enter.

here, you can uncheck the columns you don't want to see.



- Original Message - 
From: Erin erinandspen...@yahoo.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how 
jawsreadsit.


Hi, everything you suggested worked on my desktop which has windows xp on
it.

However, when I opened windows live mail and went to view it said columns
was unavailable.  Also, pressing insert with page down only said details but
did not elaborate.

--
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein h...@hapasu.dk
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 6:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jawsreads
it.

 Hi Erin.

 You can under the view menu and Columns, select and deselect which columns
 to been shown on the screen, and thereby beeing read by Jaws.

 Use Insert+PageDown to read the status bar, and be informed by how many
 messages are in the current folder, and how many of them are unread.

 Hans Pauli.

 - Oprindelig meddelelse - 
 Fra: Erin erinandspen...@yahoo.com
 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sendt: 19. juli 2010 06:05
 Emne: [JAWS-Users] Question about windows live mail and how jaws reads it.


 ,Hi, I am using windows live mail on windows 7 pro and using jaws 11
 standard in demo mode.

 I have my emails going into several folders.  When I tab into a folder
 jaws
 will read the first email in the following way.

 Name of person, date and time received, subject, size and finally that it
 was sent to my email address and what folder it is in.  I really don't
 want
 it to read all of that info.

 Also, jaws will not tell me how many emails are in each folder and after I
 read or delete one jaws says not selected, so I have to select each email
 in
 turn.

 Does anyone know if there is a way ot change this?

 I have done research online and cant find anything.

 Any help is greatly apprectiated, thank you in advance.

 Erin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread Steve
Nope, you can't use XP emulation with Home Premium.  It only is available in 
Professional or Ultimate.


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7


I got dule core 2.0ghz, intel, and 3 gigs of ram, windows 7 home premium 64 
bit edition.


So I suppose that would work?  If so, how do I get started?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7


Hi so long as you have at least 2GB of RAM and a 2GHZ processor XP Mode 
should run fine without problems. In the past hardware virtualization 
must be supported and if so enabled in the computer's BIOS. But an update 
to Virtual PC made this optional now and not manditory.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
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MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 19/07/2010 18:17, Chris Gilland wrote:

How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how
then do I get it to work?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor.
insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.

Negoslav
- Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal 
mobeeniq...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7



Hi.

For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just
tried it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
sollution soon when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
portable partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
apps with out installation.

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hey Don,

Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to
Norton. It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I
am sure it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible
it is, though.

Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be
accessible through the disk management aplet.

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.
djrisav...@cox.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7


Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see 
what

happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't
compatible with
win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.

So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening
or going
on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

Hi,
This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is
not
possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand
that
it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're
trying to
run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and 
instead

display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen
readers
work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
Sorry about that.



Signed by Chris Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:

Hello,



Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in
Windows XP
mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or
won't

be

compatible with Windows 7?



If so are there any special settings needed in order to
successfully use
Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?



Thanks.







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[JAWS-Users] Detect SAPI4 Broken?

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Gilland
I just tried, while running a sapi5 profile, as I remember jfw used to crash 
if you used eloquence when hitting this button, but, even knowing I have 
sapi4 voices installed, jfw 11 still isn't poulating the list telling me 
there are any.  Yes, they are properly installed as some programs that use 
them to self voice work fine, and even w e sees them and works fine with 
them.


I'd really like to get them working in jfw, but it seems the sapi4 detect is 
broken.  Am I missing something here?  I installed the microsoft text to 
speech that comes with Altair for windows, and I also installed i b m 
viavoice from compuconference.  Again all these synths are working fine in w 
e, but not in jfw.  I don't get it.  What did I do wrong, if anything?


Chris. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7

2010-07-19 Thread Brandon Misch
that won't work. you need xp pro or ultamate. 
On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

 I got dule core 2.0ghz, intel, and 3 gigs of ram, windows 7 home premium 64 
 bit edition.
 
 So I suppose that would work?  If so, how do I get started?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth 
 christopher...@googlemail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7
 
 
 Hi so long as you have at least 2GB of RAM and a 2GHZ processor XP Mode 
 should run fine without problems. In the past hardware virtualization must 
 be supported and if so enabled in the computer's BIOS. But an update to 
 Virtual PC made this optional now and not manditory.
 
 
 Signed by Chris Hallsworth
 E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
 MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
 Skype: chrishallsworth7266
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
 
 On 19/07/2010 18:17, Chris Gilland wrote:
 How do I figure out if my pc will support xp mode, and if it will, how
 then do I get it to work?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7
 
 
 Or better, use the virtualizing hotkey instead of jaws cursor.
 insert+alt+w for jaws 11 or insert+ctrl+w for the lower versions.
 
 Negoslav
 - Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7
 
 
 Hi.
 
 For reference, Partition wizard is totally inaccessible, i've just
 tried it. i too use Norton, and plan on finding an accessible
 sollution soon when i upgrade to windows7. I've been trying to find a
 portable partition manager as i've always been a fan of click and run
 apps with out installation.
 
 Mo.
 
 
 Steve wrote:
 Hey Don,
 
 Partition Magic won't work in Vista or Windows 7, according to
 Norton. It hasn't been updated in five years, from what I've seen. I
 am sure it won't work in 64-bit systems. You can try
 http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
 which works in 32-bit or 64-bit systems. Don't know how accessible
 it is, though.
 
 Also, Win 7 has its own partitioning software which should be
 accessible through the disk management aplet.
 
 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
 
 Steve
 Lansing, MI
 
 - Original Message - From: Don Risavy, Jr.
 djrisav...@cox.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7
 
 
 Ok well then will try it out with my other screen reader and see what
 happens as have an old program Partition magic that isn't
 compatible with
 win 7 or win vista that prefer to use when partitioning hard drives.
 
 So many thanks for the answers and explanation on what's happening
 or going
 on when using Jaws in windows xp mode.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris
 hallsworth
 Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:11 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with Windows xp mode in Windows 7
 
 Hi,
 This has been discussed on the Windows 7 list. Unfortunately, it is
 not
 possible to use JAWS in a Windows XP mode environment. Virtual PC
 creates a terminal session by default, and JAWS doesn't understand
 that
 it's not actually a terminal session; rather a virtual terminal
 session created by Virtual PC. As a result JAWS thinks you're
 trying to
 run it in a terminal session, and therefore will not work and instead
 display an error message and quits. For the record, other screen
 readers
 work, but this is outside the scopes of this list.
 Sorry about that.
 
 
 
 Signed by Chris Hallsworth
 E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
 MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
 Skype: chrishallsworth7266
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
 
 On 18/07/2010 4:40, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:
 Hello,
 
 
 
 Wondered if anyone has been able to successfully use Jaws 11 in
 Windows XP
 mode in Windows 7 to access or use earlier programs that aren't or
 won't
 be
 compatible with Windows 7?
 
 
 
 If so are there any special settings needed in order to
 successfully use
 Jaws in the Windows XP compatible mode in Windows 7?
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Ming
does anyone know tha the Safari
web browser can use with Jaws?

thanks 
Ming
tel: 6421 9950
msn/window live messenger
chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Patricia

If you mean the one that is on the Apex, then yes, it can..

The Apex has the Safari browser with Jaws from Humanware and also uses 
Braille, a Braille display with speech.
My son had one recently from his job and I was able to hear Jaws as well as 
read the display in Braille, very nice piece of equipment, but far out of my 
price range...


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From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk

To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari



does anyone know tha the Safari
web browser can use with Jaws?

thanks
Ming
tel: 6421 9950
msn/window live messenger
chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

blog/ xanga
http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Ming
you mean the Braille note apex?

Ming
tel: 6421 9950
msn/window live messenger
chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

blog/ xanga
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--- 2010年7月20日 星期二,Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com 寫道﹕

 寄件人: Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com
 主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 日期: 2010年7月20日,星期二,下午12:39
 If you mean the one that is on the
 Apex, then yes, it can..
 
 The Apex has the Safari browser with Jaws from Humanware
 and also uses 
 Braille, a Braille display with speech.
 My son had one recently from his job and I was able to hear
 Jaws as well as 
 read the display in Braille, very nice piece of equipment,
 but far out of my 
 price range...
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:26 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
 
 
  does anyone know tha the Safari
  web browser can use with Jaws?
 
  thanks
  Ming
  tel: 6421 9950
  msn/window live messenger
  chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
  skype:
  chungchiming9950
 
  blog/ xanga
  http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Patricia

yes
- Original Message - 
From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari



you mean the Braille note apex?

Ming
tel: 6421 9950
msn/window live messenger
chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

blog/ xanga
http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming


--- 2010年7月20日 星期二,Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com 寫道﹕


寄件人: Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com
主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
日期: 2010年7月20日,星期二,下午12:39
If you mean the one that is on the
Apex, then yes, it can..

The Apex has the Safari browser with Jaws from Humanware
and also uses
Braille, a Braille display with speech.
My son had one recently from his job and I was able to hear
Jaws as well as
read the display in Braille, very nice piece of equipment,
but far out of my
price range...

- Original Message - 
From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk

To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari


 does anyone know tha the Safari
 web browser can use with Jaws?

 thanks
 Ming
 tel: 6421 9950
 msn/window live messenger
 chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
 skype:
 chungchiming9950

 blog/ xanga
 http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Ishe Chinyoka
Safari is a native Mac browser, and unless you are running it in virtual 
machine, I doubt that JAWS supports Safari at the moment.
- Original Message - 
From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk

To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari



does anyone know tha the Safari
web browser can use with Jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Ishe Chinyoka

Safari is a native browser for Mac and highly accessible with VoiceOver.
Unless you are running it in a virtual box such as VMWare, I am not sure 
JAWS can support Safari as a PC app.
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does anyone know tha the Safari
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Ming
I  tink b raille note is not using Jaws.
Humen ware develop its own one.

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--- 2010年7月20日 星期二,Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com 寫道﹕

 寄件人: Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com
 主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 日期: 2010年7月20日,星期二,下午1:00
 yes
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 From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
 
 
  you mean the Braille note apex?
 
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  --- 2010年7月20日 星期二,Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com
 寫道﹕
 
  寄件人: Patricia pzoell...@tx.rr.com
  主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
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  日期: 2010年7月20日,星期二,下午12:39
  If you mean the one that is on the
  Apex, then yes, it can..
 
  The Apex has the Safari browser with Jaws from
 Humanware
  and also uses
  Braille, a Braille display with speech.
  My son had one recently from his job and I was
 able to hear
  Jaws as well as
  read the display in Braille, very nice piece of
 equipment,
  but far out of my
  price range...
 
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  Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:26 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
 
 
   does anyone know tha the Safari
   web browser can use with Jaws?
  
   thanks
   Ming
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   chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

2010-07-19 Thread Donald Marang
There is an edition of Safari available to run in Windows.  I have not 
attempted to install or use it lately, but the last time I did, it was 
completely inaccessible.  Perhaps you will notice that every time there is 
an update for iTunes or QuickTime, it will keep nagging you to download 
Safari as well.


Don Marang

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From: Ishe Chinyoka chinyoka.consult...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari

Safari is a native Mac browser, and unless you are running it in virtual 
machine, I doubt that JAWS supports Safari at the moment.
- Original Message - 
From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk

To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari



does anyone know tha the Safari
web browser can use with Jaws?

thanks
Ming
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