Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

  Hi,
So, how much does this little puppy cost???

Thanks,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
your poket.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
Lumia1520?

Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to insert bullets in word 2013

[Kimsan]

If memory sserves, CTRL shift l works. Let me try real quick, in this email.

Ok, it didn't work here in outlook, but in word, after writing my list, I
selected it, and did the above keystroke and bullets appeared.
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Behalf Of Dacia Cole
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to insert bullets in word 2013

Hi,

How do you insert bullets in word 2013 using JAWS? I have JAWS17.

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[David Ferrin]

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic, 
but I must admit it has got my attention.


So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

  Hi,
So, how much does this little puppy cost???

Thanks,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
your poket.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
Lumia1520?

Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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[JAWS-Users] Bluetooth in windows 10

[David Ferrin]

It crossed my mind this morning that I own a Bluetooth keyboard and at the 
moment own a laptop that has that capability and maybe the two may meet in 
some mutual understanding to work together.


I haven't figured it out yet but then again I'm only on my second mug of 
coffee, FYI 22 ounces but that is neither here or there.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[valiant8086]

Hi.

If you have any, try pairing your bluetooth headphones or speaker to it 
and a bluetooth keyboard, and see if you can disconnect it from its dock 
and still be able to operate it.


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable

On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or IPhone 
6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of Kangaroo. 

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a 
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one 
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 200 
grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows Hello 
fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz. 
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which you 
can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more storage. 

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use", 
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 3.5 
to male MicroUSB 

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10. 
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac 
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be testing 
it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and usb keyboard 
and headset as well as without the docking station using Bluetooth keyboard and 
Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems to be what I was looking 
for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI to connect to screen or 
IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen using the HDMI port.  
However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) thus the use of the micro 
USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a keyboard. Voice commands will 
be of interest using Microsoft's answer to Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for simple 
applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit may become 
very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.

 

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic, 
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[David Ferrin]

Interesting, I will review the article when chance permits, thank you.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Wocher" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Hello,
It is not a tablet. It is one of those new computers on a stick type
devices. here is a link with some more information about it:
http://www.infocus.com/kangaroo

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/31/2015 9:39 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
> I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on
> topic, but I must admit it has got my attention.
>
> So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.
>
> -Original Message- From: Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This little computer only costs $99.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>>   Hi,
>> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jorge
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>>
>> Hello,
>> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
>> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
>> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
>> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
>> your poket.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>>> Lumia1520?
>>>
>>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
 JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
 or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
 Robin East
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
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>>
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>
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>
>
> David Ferrin
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[LeDon Becker]

How do you go about installing jaws on this computer? 

From: Greg Wocher 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
>Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[LeDon Becker]

Does this tiny computer use windows ten? 
So do you have to carry around a keyboard to use it? How much does it cost? 
From: East, Robin 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi, I had to to have sighted help as it took four hours for windows to update 
completely. Once done it was easy as as soon as you plugged it into the HDMI 
video you not only received video you had immediate sound. So to then run JAWS 
exe was easily done as once the exe was started the setup took over.

Hopeing to give this little unit a good testing this week and weekend.
robin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of valiant8086
Sent: December 30, 2015 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi.

It shouldn't have much trouble with that, it does after all have typical 
tablet-like specs. Someone I know has one just a bit bigger than a USB 
flash drive that goes directly into the HDMI port, which he hasn't since 
he can't see the TV. The Cangaroo if I recall rightly is a pretty nice 
outfit that only just recently released. It has a dock I believe, does 
it deal fine with being removed from the dock while running and placed 
back on it again? Since if memory serves it has an internal battery, 
it'll keep on going while off the dock until you put it back again. I 
read that the out of box experience setup process for this device had 
been modified to work more like setting up a smart tv box would and thus 
is not typical windows setup. Is this so and if so, were you able to do 
it with Narrator even though?


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:
> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or 
> IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
> Robin East
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[David Ferrin]

How did you get JAWS on the thing initially?

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of 
Kangaroo.


Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a 
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one 
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows 
Hello fingerprint sensor


it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which 
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more 
storage.


The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 
3.5 to male MicroUSB


the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be 
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and 
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using 
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems 
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI 
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen 
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) 
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a 
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to 
Apples SIRI.


Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for 
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit 
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.




robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

  Hi,
So, how much does this little puppy cost???

Thanks,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
your poket.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
Lumia1520?

Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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For 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
It is not a tablet. It is one of those new computers on a stick type 
devices. here is a link with some more information about it:

http://www.infocus.com/kangaroo

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/31/2015 9:39 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on 
topic, but I must admit it has got my attention.


So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

  Hi,
So, how much does this little puppy cost???

Thanks,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
your poket.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
Lumia1520?

Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

I had to get sighted help. Used the HDMI and wifi. 
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

How did you get JAWS on the thing initially?

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of 
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a 
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one 
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows 
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which 
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more 
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be 
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and 
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using 
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems 
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI 
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen 
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) 
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a 
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to 
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for 
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit 
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

>From what I have read one should be able to use Bluetooth headset and keyboard 
>without the docking station.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of valiant8086
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi.

If you have any, try pairing your bluetooth headphones or speaker to it 
and a bluetooth keyboard, and see if you can disconnect it from its dock 
and still be able to operate it.

Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:
> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or 
> IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
> Robin East
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Bluetooth in windows 10

[Trish]

if it’s the Microsoft 3000 full size keyboard, it’s real easy. Mine came with a 
little USB plug  and 2 double A batteries, that’s all I had to do to get it to 
work on my window’s laptop.
I’m sure other brands work good too.

On Dec 31, 2015, at 8:51 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:


It crossed my mind this morning that I own a Bluetooth keyboard and at the 
moment own a laptop that has that capability and maybe the two may meet in some 
mutual understanding to work together.

I haven't figured it out yet but then again I'm only on my second mug of 
coffee, FYI 22 ounces but that is neither here or there.


David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

[wayne smith]

Thanks so much to you and the other moderators for making the past year go
better with your help and firmness.  From recent posts it looks as though
the coming year may be smaller and better (smile).  We are grateful for this
list and your perseverance.  

As somebody once said; "Anybody who loves ice cream and JAWS can't be all
bad."

Peace and all good,

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

Well it sure has been an interesting monster of a year we have all just
survived. 

Never the less with the new year looming we all hope for bigger and better
things from the computer world. Don't know if we'll get them but we can
hope. 

Right now we have just over 660 subscribers on here which is not far off of
our all time high although that number escapes me at the moment, maybe 670
or 675 somewhere around there. 

Some of you might have noticed that I took an extended leave of absence this
summer. If you didn't that is because Rick and Bob filled any gap left by my
not being available. 

There was a medical emergency in the family that required my complete
attention and the good thing is life is back to what passes for normal
around here, he says that last with tongue in cheek. 

So far 2016 looks promising at the moment for the list moving forward. Keep
your keyboards crossed that things stay stable. 
David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

[Kurt Miller]

David,

Thank you and the other moderators for this list. Also thanks to all the
members for sharing their knowledge with all of us.
May all have a Happy and prosperous New Year.

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

Well it sure has been an interesting monster of a year we have all just
survived. 

Never the less with the new year looming we all hope for bigger and better
things from the computer world. Don't know if we'll get them but we can
hope. 

Right now we have just over 660 subscribers on here which is not far off of
our all time high although that number escapes me at the moment, maybe 670
or 675 somewhere around there. 

Some of you might have noticed that I took an extended leave of absence this
summer. If you didn't that is because Rick and Bob filled any gap left by my
not being available. 

There was a medical emergency in the family that required my complete
attention and the good thing is life is back to what passes for normal
around here, he says that last with tongue in cheek. 

So far 2016 looks promising at the moment for the list moving forward. Keep
your keyboards crossed that things stay stable. 
David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

[David Moore]

Hi all,
Thank you so very much from me as well. You guys do such a great job at 
keeping this list under control and making it a great environment to learn 
all about using JAWS and Windows. It has been a great year, and I have 
learned so much on this list in the past year. I am sure that I will be able 
to help and learn more in 2016 than ever. Thanks guys, and have a great New 
Year.



-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

Thanks so much to you and the other moderators for making the past year go
better with your help and firmness.  From recent posts it looks as though
the coming year may be smaller and better (smile).  We are grateful for this
list and your perseverance.

As somebody once said; "Anybody who loves ice cream and JAWS can't be all
bad."

Peace and all good,

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

Well it sure has been an interesting monster of a year we have all just
survived.

Never the less with the new year looming we all hope for bigger and better
things from the computer world. Don't know if we'll get them but we can
hope.

Right now we have just over 660 subscribers on here which is not far off of
our all time high although that number escapes me at the moment, maybe 670
or 675 somewhere around there.

Some of you might have noticed that I took an extended leave of absence this
summer. If you didn't that is because Rick and Bob filled any gap left by my
not being available.

There was a medical emergency in the family that required my complete
attention and the good thing is life is back to what passes for normal
around here, he says that last with tongue in cheek.

So far 2016 looks promising at the moment for the list moving forward. Keep
your keyboards crossed that things stay stable.
David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Rose Combs]

By the time you buy all the Bluetooth products, docking station ... you
could have gotten a good laptop or desktop computer.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
It is not a tablet. It is one of those new computers on a stick type 
devices. here is a link with some more information about it:
http://www.infocus.com/kangaroo

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/31/2015 9:39 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
> I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on 
> topic, but I must admit it has got my attention.
>
> So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.
>
> -Original Message- From: Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This little computer only costs $99.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>>   Hi,
>> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jorge
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>>
>> Hello,
>> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
>> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
>> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
>> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
>> your poket.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>>> Lumia1520?
>>>
>>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
 JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
 or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
 Robin East
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] memo on the year gone by

[David Ferrin]

Well it sure has been an interesting monster of a year we have all just 
survived. 

Never the less with the new year looming we all hope for bigger and better 
things from the computer world. Don't know if we'll get them but we can hope. 

Right now we have just over 660 subscribers on here which is not far off of our 
all time high although that number escapes me at the moment, maybe 670 or 675 
somewhere around there. 

Some of you might have noticed that I took an extended leave of absence this 
summer. If you didn't that is because Rick and Bob filled any gap left by my 
not being available. 

There was a medical emergency in the family that required my complete attention 
and the good thing is life is back to what passes for normal around here, he 
says that last with tongue in cheek. 

So far 2016 looks promising at the moment for the list moving forward. Keep 
your keyboards crossed that things stay stable. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[David Ferrin]

Near as I can figure it has no speakers or monitor which is why it requires 
an HDMI cable to connect up to a TV. It is low cost for certain.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi All,

Here are the measurements in inches & ounces:

Size: 124mm length = 4.88 inches.

80.5mm width is 3.17 inches.

12.9mm girth / thickness is 0.51 inches.

weighs just 200 grams (without adapter and power cord), = 7 ounces

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack)
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

  Hi,
So, how much does this little puppy cost???

Thanks,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
your poket.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
Lumia1520?

Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Just so you know HP will be able to walk you through it with sighted 
assistance but they won't be able to make bios changes remotely if that was 
what you were thinking.  Hope that helps.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Thanks to all that have given advice on this matter.
The shift f10 does not work, adding the fn key to it does not work either.
The f keys are working in action mode so I will be either going into the
bios or just calling HP support and have them take care of it because I also
need to know how to shut off the mouse pad.
Thanks again to all and Happy New Year.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to
get it to do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls
ActionKey mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


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masochist and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Rose Combs]

I just do not understand why anyone would buy this!  Sounds wimpy to me.  
Also, size and weight in metric means little to me.  With no speakers it is
basically worthless in my humble opinion!  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of
Kangaroo. 

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz. 
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more
storage. 

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use", the portable
PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use this port for
a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 3.5 to male
MicroUSB 

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10. 
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack)
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.

 

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the 
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo 
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a 
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in 
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the 
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or 
>> OS of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Mario]

yes, as I heard from another ml, it uses Windows Home 32 bit and you 
most likely would want to use a Bluetooth or USB keyboard. it also 
provides 1 USB 3.0 and 1 USB 2.0 port as well as a HDMI.



On 12/31/2015 1:13 PM, LeDon Becker wrote:

Does this tiny computer use windows ten?
So do you have to carry around a keyboard to use it? How much does it cost?
From: East, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi, I had to to have sighted help as it took four hours for windows to update 
completely. Once done it was easy as as soon as you plugged it into the HDMI 
video you not only received video you had immediate sound. So to then run JAWS 
exe was easily done as once the exe was started the setup took over.

Hopeing to give this little unit a good testing this week and weekend.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of valiant8086
Sent: December 30, 2015 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi.

It shouldn't have much trouble with that, it does after all have typical
tablet-like specs. Someone I know has one just a bit bigger than a USB
flash drive that goes directly into the HDMI port, which he hasn't since
he can't see the TV. The Cangaroo if I recall rightly is a pretty nice
outfit that only just recently released. It has a dock I believe, does
it deal fine with being removed from the dock while running and placed
back on it again? Since if memory serves it has an internal battery,
it'll keep on going while off the dock until you put it back again. I
read that the out of box experience setup process for this device had
been modified to work more like setting up a smart tv box would and thus
is not typical windows setup. Is this so and if so, were you able to do
it with Narrator even though?


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or IPhone 
6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Mike B]

Hi All,

Here are the measurements in inches & ounces:

Size: 124mm length = 4.88 inches.

80.5mm width is 3.17 inches.

12.9mm girth / thickness is 0.51 inches.

weighs just 200 grams (without adapter and power cord), = 7 ounces

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of 
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a 
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one 
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows 
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which 
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more 
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be 
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and 
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using 
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems 
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI 
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen 
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) 
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a 
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to 
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for 
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit 
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mike,
Thank you very much for the conversion, I'm sure others should appreciate 
it!

Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"



- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Hi All,

Here are the measurements in inches & ounces:

Size: 124mm length = 4.88 inches.

80.5mm width is 3.17 inches.

12.9mm girth / thickness is 0.51 inches.

weighs just 200 grams (without adapter and power cord), = 7 ounces

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack)
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

[Kurt Miller]

Thanks to all that have given advice on this matter.
The shift f10 does not work, adding the fn key to it does not work either.
The f keys are working in action mode so I will be either going into the
bios or just calling HP support and have them take care of it because I also
need to know how to shut off the mouse pad.
Thanks again to all and Happy New Year.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to
get it to do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls
ActionKey mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


"A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a
masochist and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Ted Sparks]

Thank you for this. It is appreciated. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi All,

Here are the measurements in inches & ounces:

Size: 124mm length = 4.88 inches.

80.5mm width is 3.17 inches.

12.9mm girth / thickness is 0.51 inches.

weighs just 200 grams (without adapter and power cord), = 7 ounces

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of 
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a

smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one

USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows 
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which 
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more 
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be 
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and 
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using 
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems 
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI 
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen 
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) 
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a 
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to 
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for 
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit 
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

[Kurt Miller]

Ok, thanks.

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Hi,
Just so you know HP will be able to walk you through it with sighted
assistance but they won't be able to make bios changes remotely if that was
what you were thinking.  Hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Thanks to all that have given advice on this matter.
The shift f10 does not work, adding the fn key to it does not work either.
The f keys are working in action mode so I will be either going into the
bios or just calling HP support and have them take care of it because I also
need to know how to shut off the mouse pad.
Thanks again to all and Happy New Year.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to
get it to do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls
ActionKey mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


"A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a
masochist and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!



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[JAWS-Users] email on my laptop

[Lenny McHugh]

Up until now I have no email client on the doormat. It is a win 10 machine 
and wondering if I can install windows live mail and then import my email 
from my pop 3 account. I know that I would have to export it to a usb drive 
then import. I then would like to use a Gmail account. I want to keep all of 
my address book information there. Maybe a little later use both the Gmail 
account and my Comcast pop3 account.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] email on my laptop

[Kevin]

well if you decide to use wlm, you'll need to install the patch microsoft 
developed.  so you'll need to download windows live essentials and the wlm 
patch.  if you don't install the patch wlm will not work!


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:53 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email on my laptop

Up until now I have no email client on the doormat. It is a win 10 machine
and wondering if I can install windows live mail and then import my email
from my pop 3 account. I know that I would have to export it to a usb drive
then import. I then would like to use a Gmail account. I want to keep all of
my address book information there. Maybe a little later use both the Gmail
account and my Comcast pop3 account.



---

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It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Mike B]

Hi Ted,

You're very welcome.  Happy New Year to all list members, list owner, & all 
moderators!
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Ted Sparks
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Thank you for this. It is appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi All,

Here are the measurements in inches & ounces:

Size: 124mm length = 4.88 inches.

80.5mm width is 3.17 inches.

12.9mm girth / thickness is 0.51 inches.

weighs just 200 grams (without adapter and power cord), = 7 ounces

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17


Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a

smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one

USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack)
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

[Jorge Rivas]

Hello,
Just call MSA and ask, if they can help you,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Hi,
Just so you know HP will be able to walk you through it with sighted 
assistance but they won't be able to make bios changes remotely if that was 
what you were thinking.  Hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Thanks to all that have given advice on this matter.
The shift f10 does not work, adding the fn key to it does not work either.
The f keys are working in action mode so I will be either going into the
bios or just calling HP support and have them take care of it because I also
need to know how to shut off the mouse pad.
Thanks again to all and Happy New Year.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to
get it to do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls
ActionKey mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


"A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a
masochist and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Jorge Rivas]

Hi,
No comment...

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

yes, as I heard from another ml, it uses Windows Home 32 bit and you 
most likely would want to use a Bluetooth or USB keyboard. it also 
provides 1 USB 3.0 and 1 USB 2.0 port as well as a HDMI.


On 12/31/2015 1:13 PM, LeDon Becker wrote:
> Does this tiny computer use windows ten?
> So do you have to carry around a keyboard to use it? How much does it
cost?
> From: East, Robin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:51 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hi, I had to to have sighted help as it took four hours for windows to
update completely. Once done it was easy as as soon as you plugged it into
the HDMI video you not only received video you had immediate sound. So to
then run JAWS exe was easily done as once the exe was started the setup took
over.
>
> Hopeing to give this little unit a good testing this week and weekend.
> robin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of valiant8086
> Sent: December 30, 2015 7:06 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hi.
>
> It shouldn't have much trouble with that, it does after all have typical
> tablet-like specs. Someone I know has one just a bit bigger than a USB
> flash drive that goes directly into the HDMI port, which he hasn't since
> he can't see the TV. The Cangaroo if I recall rightly is a pretty nice
> outfit that only just recently released. It has a dock I believe, does
> it deal fine with being removed from the dock while running and placed
> back on it again? Since if memory serves it has an internal battery,
> it'll keep on going while off the dock until you put it back again. I
> read that the out of box experience setup process for this device had
> been modified to work more like setting up a smart tv box would and thus
> is not typical windows setup. Is this so and if so, were you able to do
> it with Narrator even though?
>
>
> Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
> Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community
> http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
> On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:
>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or
IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>> Robin East
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>
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>
>

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