Re: [JAWS-Users] Web site message

2017-11-25 Thread net bat66

you are opening a pdf file.
if you are trying to save the file open a context menu on the link and use save 
as to save the file to your drive.

***
usually if you close the adobe reader it will go back to a blank web page. but 
you would still be in your browser. sometimes alt left arrow will take you back 
a page where you were before the file downloaded.


-Original Message- 
From: Laura Richardson

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Web site message

Hello,



When I went to a web site I got the following message:

Infer reading order from document (recommended)

Left- to - right top - to - bottom reading order

Use reading order in raw print stream



There is nothing to click on .. I cannot back out of this site with back
space or alt + left arrow .. I cannot go to favorites with alt + a .. The
only way to get off this site is alt + f4 which takes me off the internet
completely.



Has anybody come across this situation?  If so, do you have any suggestions
or remedies? .. Using Jaws 18, Windows 10 & Internet Explorer.



Thank you,

Laura





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[JAWS-Users] Web site message

2017-11-25 Thread Laura Richardson
Hello,

 

When I went to a web site I got the following message:

Infer reading order from document (recommended) 

 Left- to - right top - to - bottom reading order

Use reading order in raw print stream

 

There is nothing to click on .. I cannot back out of this site with back
space or alt + left arrow .. I cannot go to favorites with alt + a .. The
only way to get off this site is alt + f4 which takes me off the internet
completely.

 

Has anybody come across this situation?  If so, do you have any suggestions
or remedies? .. Using Jaws 18, Windows 10 & Internet Explorer.

 

Thank you,

Laura

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] J2018 problem while updating

2017-11-25 Thread TheHangMan
Hi,
I installed jaws 2018 from the disc and it went great.
When, I went to check for updates, after I tab to the yes button to allow
Freedom to make changes to my pc, about a minute later my pc shut down /
crash, so I tried it again with the same results.
Is anyone having this issue?
I think, I'll settle for the way jaws is running now, with NO update and
enjoy it.
I didn't use the link Mike posted.
Thanks,
Jorge
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

2017-11-25 Thread michael's emails

Cos i thought it would only get rid of the driver.
And it would only reinstall it again.
cheers michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 2:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

why not uninstall it, you won't ever use it if you use the computer soley
with the keyboard!

-Original Message- 
From: michael's emails

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi Kevin this did not work for my HP when i did that their was no option to
disable the touch pad. Only options was to scan for hard ware changes and
properties and uninstall device.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

try this it worked for me I have a Dell 5000 series laptop

type Device Manager onto the (Cortana) search bar
when device manager pops up tab
then arrow down to"Mice And Other Pointed Devices"
,press the application key on  the touchpad driver, and then disable it.




-Original Message- 
From: amca...@verizon.net

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi All,



Is there anyone who recently found that their laptop touchpad was turned
back on?  I am using a Dell Latitude 5440 running Windows10 and JAWS2018.  I
think 2 nights ago there was some type of updates made to my laptop, and the
next morning when I booted up the laptop I found that the touchpad was
turned back on.  Turning it off is a bit of a challange that I have not
found a way to concore.  There is no longer a short cut key as there has
been in the past on the Dell Latudes.  JAWS is unable to read the dialog box
for turning the touchpad off.  Does anyone have any suggestions besides
seeking sighted help to turn the touch pad off?



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

2017-11-25 Thread Kevin
why not uninstall it, you won't ever use it if you use the computer soley 
with the keyboard!


-Original Message- 
From: michael's emails

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi Kevin this did not work for my HP when i did that their was no option to
disable the touch pad. Only options was to scan for hard ware changes and
properties and uninstall device.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

try this it worked for me I have a Dell 5000 series laptop

type Device Manager onto the (Cortana) search bar
when device manager pops up tab
then arrow down to"Mice And Other Pointed Devices"
,press the application key on  the touchpad driver, and then disable it.




-Original Message- 
From: amca...@verizon.net

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi All,



Is there anyone who recently found that their laptop touchpad was turned
back on?  I am using a Dell Latitude 5440 running Windows10 and JAWS2018.  I
think 2 nights ago there was some type of updates made to my laptop, and the
next morning when I booted up the laptop I found that the touchpad was
turned back on.  Turning it off is a bit of a challange that I have not
found a way to concore.  There is no longer a short cut key as there has
been in the past on the Dell Latudes.  JAWS is unable to read the dialog box
for turning the touchpad off.  Does anyone have any suggestions besides
seeking sighted help to turn the touch pad off?



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

2017-11-25 Thread michael's emails
Hi Kevin this did not work for my HP when i did that their was no option to 
disable the touch pad. Only options was to scan for hard ware changes and 
properties and uninstall device.

cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

try this it worked for me I have a Dell 5000 series laptop

type Device Manager onto the (Cortana) search bar
when device manager pops up tab
then arrow down to"Mice And Other Pointed Devices"
,press the application key on  the touchpad driver, and then disable it.




-Original Message- 
From: amca...@verizon.net

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi All,



Is there anyone who recently found that their laptop touchpad was turned
back on?  I am using a Dell Latitude 5440 running Windows10 and JAWS2018.  I
think 2 nights ago there was some type of updates made to my laptop, and the
next morning when I booted up the laptop I found that the touchpad was
turned back on.  Turning it off is a bit of a challange that I have not
found a way to concore.  There is no longer a short cut key as there has
been in the past on the Dell Latudes.  JAWS is unable to read the dialog box
for turning the touchpad off.  Does anyone have any suggestions besides
seeking sighted help to turn the touch pad off?



Thanks,

Annette



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[JAWS-Users] thanks. plusa 2016 outlook question

2017-11-25 Thread Ted Larson
Dear List:

Thanks to those replying to my queries.  How do I reply to someone on the
list without it going to the entire list?  I cannot figure how to read the
sender's email address character by character so I can replace the group
address with the single person's address.  I tried an alt-enter to get to
properties, but it must have been the wrong properties because it only had
the general tab in it.  Would you please tell me the keystrokes involved and
where each step should take me to get to those address headers.  Thanks.
Regards:  Ted Larson

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

2017-11-25 Thread michael's emails

Hello Annette this has happened to me for 3 yeares now on my HP Laptop.
This is a touch pad driver issue.
I googled it and for me it was just a matter of reinstalling an older 
driver.

But each time i do this and recieve windows updates it just updates again.
It drives me crazy.
So now i just  type in the start menu and type mouse then it comes up with 
changing mouse settings.
So i click that one and just go in to the touch pad software and disable it 
each time i boot up.

I have tole thems about this in the windows feedback but no fix as yet.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: amca...@verizon.net

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi All,



Is there anyone who recently found that their laptop touchpad was turned
back on?  I am using a Dell Latitude 5440 running Windows10 and JAWS2018.  I
think 2 nights ago there was some type of updates made to my laptop, and the
next morning when I booted up the laptop I found that the touchpad was
turned back on.  Turning it off is a bit of a challange that I have not
found a way to concore.  There is no longer a short cut key as there has
been in the past on the Dell Latudes.  JAWS is unable to read the dialog box
for turning the touchpad off.  Does anyone have any suggestions besides
seeking sighted help to turn the touch pad off?



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

2017-11-25 Thread Kevin

try this it worked for me I have a Dell 5000 series laptop

type Device Manager onto the (Cortana) search bar
when device manager pops up tab
then arrow down to"Mice And Other Pointed Devices"
,press the application key on  the touchpad driver, and then disable it.




-Original Message- 
From: amca...@verizon.net

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

Hi All,



Is there anyone who recently found that their laptop touchpad was turned
back on?  I am using a Dell Latitude 5440 running Windows10 and JAWS2018.  I
think 2 nights ago there was some type of updates made to my laptop, and the
next morning when I booted up the laptop I found that the touchpad was
turned back on.  Turning it off is a bit of a challange that I have not
found a way to concore.  There is no longer a short cut key as there has
been in the past on the Dell Latudes.  JAWS is unable to read the dialog box
for turning the touchpad off.  Does anyone have any suggestions besides
seeking sighted help to turn the touch pad off?



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

2017-11-25 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Ted,
As was previously mentioned,you could use a second soundcard and speakers 
with Jaws, or
Give these a look

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/stop-videos-from-playing-automatically-on-websites

https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2016/01/how-to-stop-videos-from-auto-playing-in-four-popular-browsers/

There are no fool-proof way to avoid these annoyances other than not using 
the internet,
 but there are always work-arounds.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Ted Larson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites


Dear List:

When I go on some web sites, they may start playing commercials, music, and
videos.  How do I stop the audio so that I can read through the web site
with jaws so that jaws is not drowned out with these distractions?  Thanks.
Regards:  Ted Larson



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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

2017-11-25 Thread Lenny McHugh
The best way that I found is to add a second sound card and dedicate it to 
jaws.You can pick up aninexpensive sound card and and computer speakers.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 8:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

and what browser?
if firefox press control m. but this only works while you are still on the 
web

page.  you have to do this with every web page you go to that wants to play
adds.

-Original Message- 
From: Ted Larson

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

Dear List:

When I go on some web sites, they may start playing commercials, music, and
videos.  How do I stop the audio so that I can read through the web site
with jaws so that jaws is not drowned out with these distractions?  Thanks.
Regards:  Ted Larson



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[JAWS-Users] Touchpad is Turned Back On

2017-11-25 Thread amcarr1
Hi All,

 

Is there anyone who recently found that their laptop touchpad was turned
back on?  I am using a Dell Latitude 5440 running Windows10 and JAWS2018.  I
think 2 nights ago there was some type of updates made to my laptop, and the
next morning when I booted up the laptop I found that the touchpad was
turned back on.  Turning it off is a bit of a challange that I have not
found a way to concore.  There is no longer a short cut key as there has
been in the past on the Dell Latudes.  JAWS is unable to read the dialog box
for turning the touchpad off.  Does anyone have any suggestions besides
seeking sighted help to turn the touch pad off?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

2017-11-25 Thread net bat66
some pdf's read better if you use the raw screen output instead of the default 
format.


-Original Message- 
From: Samuel White

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

Ted, I gave up on .pdf and convert them to word.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ted Larson
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

Dear List:

Years ago, I would read tax forms from the federal I r s that were in pdf
format.  They were quite readable if they were not too lengthy.  I mention
this, because I receive pdf documents from various persons that are not very
readable at all;  parts of lines are connected to other parts of lines.  In
order for me to read them, I ask them to convert them into Microsoft Word.
Are there steps they can take with these pdf documents, whether image or
character documents, to make them just as readable as the aforesaid I r s
documents?  Or, is converting the document to Word the easiest approach for
them to take?  Thanks for any ideas and clarifications.  Regards:  Ted
Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

2017-11-25 Thread Samuel White
Ted, I gave up on .pdf and convert them to word.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ted Larson
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

Dear List:

Years ago, I would read tax forms from the federal I r s that were in pdf
format.  They were quite readable if they were not too lengthy.  I mention
this, because I receive pdf documents from various persons that are not very
readable at all;  parts of lines are connected to other parts of lines.  In
order for me to read them, I ask them to convert them into Microsoft Word.
Are there steps they can take with these pdf documents, whether image or
character documents, to make them just as readable as the aforesaid I r s
documents?  Or, is converting the document to Word the easiest approach for
them to take?  Thanks for any ideas and clarifications.  Regards:  Ted
Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

2017-11-25 Thread net bat66

and what browser?
if firefox press control m. but this only works while you are still on the web 
page.  you have to do this with every web page you go to that wants to play 
adds.


-Original Message- 
From: Ted Larson

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

Dear List:

When I go on some web sites, they may start playing commercials, music, and
videos.  How do I stop the audio so that I can read through the web site
with jaws so that jaws is not drowned out with these distractions?  Thanks.
Regards:  Ted Larson



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[JAWS-Users] Save As Dialogues New & Old Formats, Solved

2017-11-25 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

A week or 2 ago I asked how to get my old save as dialogue back because 
somehow it had changed to the new dialogue, & I knew it wasn't from an 
update.  Well, I found out today how it happened.  The culprit was me & a 
program called Classic Shell!  LOL

Anyways to cut a long story short, I've been using Classic Shell ever since 
upgrading to Windows 7 from XP, & never knew just what all the program would 
change until I disabled it on this computer.  Today I reenabled Classic 
Shell, & woe & behold the old save as dialogue was back!

My apologies to anyone I ruffled the feathers of in trying to find out how I 
could get the old save as dialogue back.  Classic Shell is the answer in the 
Explorer settings of the program.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

2017-11-25 Thread George Martinez Sr
Ted,
As you probably know there are several levels of PDF, in terms of
sophistication and readability.  As some would say, "there is PDF and there
is PDF."
The IRS has always had the very best in PDF documents.
As not many people have Abbyy Finereader or Adobe Acrobat, your thought
about using Word 13 or 16 to convert the PDF to Word is probably the best
solution.
George

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ted Larson
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

Dear List:

Years ago, I would read tax forms from the federal I r s that were in pdf
format.  They were quite readable if they were not too lengthy.  I mention
this, because I receive pdf documents from various persons that are not very
readable at all;  parts of lines are connected to other parts of lines.  In
order for me to read them, I ask them to convert them into Microsoft Word.
Are there steps they can take with these pdf documents, whether image or
character documents, to make them just as readable as the aforesaid I r s
documents?  Or, is converting the document to Word the easiest approach for
them to take?  Thanks for any ideas and clarifications.  Regards:  Ted
Larson

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[JAWS-Users] how do you stop automatic audio from web sites

2017-11-25 Thread Ted Larson
Dear List:

When I go on some web sites, they may start playing commercials, music, and
videos.  How do I stop the audio so that I can read through the web site
with jaws so that jaws is not drowned out with these distractions?  Thanks.
Regards:  Ted Larson

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in Firefox after switching to ESR version

2017-11-25 Thread net bat66

you could go into your add ons and disable webvisum without uninstalling it.;

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in 
Firefox after switching to ESR version


Hi.

I don't know if I have ever gotten this popup. I do get a message from
google on their main page sometimes, but it does not look like a popup or
dialog box. However, maybe JAWS isn't seeing it for some reason? I guess
though this would come from google? Google *is* my homepage, so I guess that
does seem reasonable. Maybe if I set my homepage to something else, this
Chrome thing will not come up?

Yes, I do have the 64-bit version of ESR. Maybe I will try grabbing the
other one. I thought the stability issue was mostly to do with ad-ons, but
actually I have been getting bugged from webvism to log in to my account,
whose details I've forgotten...I suppose that add-on might be causing some
problems?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: November 25, 2017 4:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly
in Firefox after switching to ESR version

one thing to check when this happens. i keep getting the chrome popup
telling me i want to switch to chrome. when this happens both jaws and
window eyes browse mode stops working until i can close this dialog.
also did you download the 32 bit version of firefox esr? more people have
better screen reader stibility with it then the 64bit version.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in
Firefox after switching to ESR version

Hey everyone.
I'm running JAWS 18 on a Windows 10, 64-bit machine. Last week, my Firefox
was updated to the Quantum, version 57, release. As has been discussed on
this list, there are issues with accessibility with this version of the
programme, and although I found it worked *almost* fine with NVDA, it did
not work at all with JAWS, which I'm not entirely ready to give up using or
anything. So, I decided to switch to the 52 (ESR) version, as recommended by
many people and accessibility blogs. Instalation seemed to go fine, but I
found that although I could go to a website without problems using ctrl-l,
and sometimes search for something on that site, links would not activate
with the enter key-press. JAWS definitely recognises that a link is there
and I think the cursor is in the right place. I can also activate the links
using the context menu, in a new tab or window. But enter simply does
nothing. Another weird thing I noticed is that when this is happening,
alt-f4 will not close firefox, and I must do it with the programme's menu
option.

I uninstalled Firefox altogether this time, as the first time I just tried
to install v.52 over v.57 without uninstalling the programme, which is
*supposed* to work. But starting fresh is sometimes good, right? Well, to my
joy, the programme (firefox) seemed to be working great for a couple of
days. This afternoon though, when I loaded the browser to check the mobile
facebook site, once again, links would not activate with the enter key and
the programme wouldn't close normally. I'm not positive these two things are
related, but thinking about it now, I almost always close programmes with
alt-f4 and I'm quite sure this is how I always closed firefox until now.

Anyone have any clues as to what the devil might be going on? I'm going to
have to switch permanently to Chrome if this keeps up. I even went to
internet Explorer for a bit, but a lot of sites I go to regularly, like
goodreads.com, simply do not work properly with that browser anymore, and
it's very definitely being phased out by mS in favour of Edge, so I'd rather
just put it to sleep permanently. Firefox has been my go-to browser for
years anyway and I don't think I've ever had any issues like this, until
now.

Thanks.




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[JAWS-Users] can pdf be made to be more readable?

2017-11-25 Thread Ted Larson
Dear List:

Years ago, I would read tax forms from the federal I r s that were in pdf
format.  They were quite readable if they were not too lengthy.  I mention
this, because I receive pdf documents from various persons that are not very
readable at all;  parts of lines are connected to other parts of lines.  In
order for me to read them, I ask them to convert them into Microsoft Word.
Are there steps they can take with these pdf documents, whether image or
character documents, to make them just as readable as the aforesaid I r s
documents?  Or, is converting the document to Word the easiest approach for
them to take?  Thanks for any ideas and clarifications.  Regards:  Ted
Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in Firefox after switching to ESR version

2017-11-25 Thread JM Casey
Hi.

I don't know if I have ever gotten this popup. I do get a message from
google on their main page sometimes, but it does not look like a popup or
dialog box. However, maybe JAWS isn't seeing it for some reason? I guess
though this would come from google? Google *is* my homepage, so I guess that
does seem reasonable. Maybe if I set my homepage to something else, this
Chrome thing will not come up?

Yes, I do have the 64-bit version of ESR. Maybe I will try grabbing the
other one. I thought the stability issue was mostly to do with ad-ons, but
actually I have been getting bugged from webvism to log in to my account,
whose details I've forgotten...I suppose that add-on might be causing some
problems?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: November 25, 2017 4:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly
in Firefox after switching to ESR version

one thing to check when this happens. i keep getting the chrome popup
telling me i want to switch to chrome. when this happens both jaws and
window eyes browse mode stops working until i can close this dialog.
also did you download the 32 bit version of firefox esr? more people have
better screen reader stibility with it then the 64bit version.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in
Firefox after switching to ESR version

Hey everyone.
I'm running JAWS 18 on a Windows 10, 64-bit machine. Last week, my Firefox
was updated to the Quantum, version 57, release. As has been discussed on
this list, there are issues with accessibility with this version of the
programme, and although I found it worked *almost* fine with NVDA, it did
not work at all with JAWS, which I'm not entirely ready to give up using or
anything. So, I decided to switch to the 52 (ESR) version, as recommended by
many people and accessibility blogs. Instalation seemed to go fine, but I
found that although I could go to a website without problems using ctrl-l,
and sometimes search for something on that site, links would not activate
with the enter key-press. JAWS definitely recognises that a link is there
and I think the cursor is in the right place. I can also activate the links
using the context menu, in a new tab or window. But enter simply does
nothing. Another weird thing I noticed is that when this is happening,
alt-f4 will not close firefox, and I must do it with the programme's menu
option.

I uninstalled Firefox altogether this time, as the first time I just tried
to install v.52 over v.57 without uninstalling the programme, which is
*supposed* to work. But starting fresh is sometimes good, right? Well, to my
joy, the programme (firefox) seemed to be working great for a couple of
days. This afternoon though, when I loaded the browser to check the mobile
facebook site, once again, links would not activate with the enter key and
the programme wouldn't close normally. I'm not positive these two things are
related, but thinking about it now, I almost always close programmes with
alt-f4 and I'm quite sure this is how I always closed firefox until now.

Anyone have any clues as to what the devil might be going on? I'm going to
have to switch permanently to Chrome if this keeps up. I even went to
internet Explorer for a bit, but a lot of sites I go to regularly, like
goodreads.com, simply do not work properly with that browser anymore, and
it's very definitely being phased out by mS in favour of Edge, so I'd rather
just put it to sleep permanently. Firefox has been my go-to browser for
years anyway and I don't think I've ever had any issues like this, until
now.

Thanks.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in Firefox after switching to ESR version

2017-11-25 Thread net bat66
one thing to check when this happens. i keep getting the chrome popup telling 
me i want to switch to chrome. when this happens both jaws and window eyes 
browse mode stops working until i can close this dialog.
also did you download the 32 bit version of firefox esr? more people have 
better screen reader stibility with it then the 64bit version.



-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in 
Firefox after switching to ESR version


Hey everyone.
I'm running JAWS 18 on a Windows 10, 64-bit machine. Last week, my Firefox
was updated to the Quantum, version 57, release. As has been discussed on
this list, there are issues with accessibility with this version of the
programme, and although I found it worked *almost* fine with NVDA, it did
not work at all with JAWS, which I'm not entirely ready to give up using or
anything. So, I decided to switch to the 52 (ESR) version, as recommended by
many people and accessibility blogs. Instalation seemed to go fine, but I
found that although I could go to a website without problems using ctrl-l,
and sometimes search for something on that site, links would not activate
with the enter key-press. JAWS definitely recognises that a link is there
and I think the cursor is in the right place. I can also activate the links
using the context menu, in a new tab or window. But enter simply does
nothing. Another weird thing I noticed is that when this is happening,
alt-f4 will not close firefox, and I must do it with the programme's menu
option.

I uninstalled Firefox altogether this time, as the first time I just tried
to install v.52 over v.57 without uninstalling the programme, which is
*supposed* to work. But starting fresh is sometimes good, right? Well, to my
joy, the programme (firefox) seemed to be working great for a couple of
days. This afternoon though, when I loaded the browser to check the mobile
facebook site, once again, links would not activate with the enter key and
the programme wouldn't close normally. I'm not positive these two things are
related, but thinking about it now, I almost always close programmes with
alt-f4 and I'm quite sure this is how I always closed firefox until now.

Anyone have any clues as to what the devil might be going on? I'm going to
have to switch permanently to Chrome if this keeps up. I even went to
internet Explorer for a bit, but a lot of sites I go to regularly, like
goodreads.com, simply do not work properly with that browser anymore, and
it's very definitely being phased out by mS in favour of Edge, so I'd rather
just put it to sleep permanently. Firefox has been my go-to browser for
years anyway and I don't think I've ever had any issues like this, until
now.

Thanks.




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[JAWS-Users] strange issue with links not activating properly in Firefox after switching to ESR version

2017-11-25 Thread JM Casey
Hey everyone.
I'm running JAWS 18 on a Windows 10, 64-bit machine. Last week, my Firefox
was updated to the Quantum, version 57, release. As has been discussed on
this list, there are issues with accessibility with this version of the
programme, and although I found it worked *almost* fine with NVDA, it did
not work at all with JAWS, which I'm not entirely ready to give up using or
anything. So, I decided to switch to the 52 (ESR) version, as recommended by
many people and accessibility blogs. Instalation seemed to go fine, but I
found that although I could go to a website without problems using ctrl-l,
and sometimes search for something on that site, links would not activate
with the enter key-press. JAWS definitely recognises that a link is there
and I think the cursor is in the right place. I can also activate the links
using the context menu, in a new tab or window. But enter simply does
nothing. Another weird thing I noticed is that when this is happening,
alt-f4 will not close firefox, and I must do it with the programme's menu
option.

I uninstalled Firefox altogether this time, as the first time I just tried
to install v.52 over v.57 without uninstalling the programme, which is
*supposed* to work. But starting fresh is sometimes good, right? Well, to my
joy, the programme (firefox) seemed to be working great for a couple of
days. This afternoon though, when I loaded the browser to check the mobile
facebook site, once again, links would not activate with the enter key and
the programme wouldn't close normally. I'm not positive these two things are
related, but thinking about it now, I almost always close programmes with
alt-f4 and I'm quite sure this is how I always closed firefox until now.

Anyone have any clues as to what the devil might be going on? I'm going to
have to switch permanently to Chrome if this keeps up. I even went to
internet Explorer for a bit, but a lot of sites I go to regularly, like
goodreads.com, simply do not work properly with that browser anymore, and
it's very definitely being phased out by mS in favour of Edge, so I'd rather
just put it to sleep permanently. Firefox has been my go-to browser for
years anyway and I don't think I've ever had any issues like this, until
now.

Thanks.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] discovered problem with Jaws 2018 install

2017-11-25 Thread Vicki W.

Yes.

- Original Message - 
From: "Debbie Yuille" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] discovered problem with Jaws 2018 install



Hi Vicki

Do you have the same operating system on both your desktop and laptop?

Debbie

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Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2017 7:25 PM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] discovered problem with Jaws 2018 install

I got the 2018 to install fine on my desktop, but the laptop says the 
video

intercept isn't installed. How can I install this?

Thanks.

Vicki
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[JAWS-Users] Calendar reminders

2017-11-25 Thread Kurt Miller
Hi all,

I am using win 8.1, Outlook 2010 with a gmail account. I am having reminders
of garbage money making appointments coming up as reminders and they are in
my calendar also. These are from spam emails that I have never even opened
and I am wondering how I can get rid of them? There are 10 to 14 in there
daily. I am afraid to do anything but dismiss all reminders because I don't
want to get my computer infected with someone's crap.

I would appreciate any ideas on getting rid of this stuff. Just to note; I
have never messed with the calendar so don't know how to use it. This might
just be a simple solution, but don't know.

Thanks a bunch,

Kurt

 

"Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God."

Corrie Ten Boom

 

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[JAWS-Users] jaws going silent.

2017-11-25 Thread michael fridey

    Hi guys i know this was on the list the other day.

But i have noticed jaws goes silent then it comes up saying the usual 
stuff about jaws home version.


It is anoying.

Cheers michael.

--
sent from mozilla thunderbird


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