Re: [JAWS-Users] which jaws?
JAWS 2018 is the latest version; JAWS 18 was released in 2017. FS decided to try and remove the confusion they caused. A major paradigm shift in how JAWS works "under the hood" took place between JAWS 16 and JAWS 17. And frankly I've been less than satisfied with JAWS performance since then. Some very slow reactions to simple JAWS commands, which used to be very responsive. So I often unload 2018 and go back to version 16, just to get things done sooner. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 19:13 Subject: [JAWS-Users] which jaws? Lately I've read a lot about some of you not caring for jaws 18 and having some problems with it, but liking jaws 2018 better. It is confusing.this is the first time I've ever remembered a jaws being called after a year; so is jaws 2018 just that, no 18. something, and which is better if someone was to upgrade? A lot of you seem to like 16 and 17, but just because I need to upgrade should it really be the latest? Thanks for any input. Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skipping over adds in the innernet
Fred, If you have JAWS 16 or newer, you have access to flexible web. See how it's done by visiting the FS web site. It's complicated, but should resolve your issues. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Fred C. Adams" <hamsh...@tampabay.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:43 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Skipping over adds in the innernet I am using W10, latest jaws and chrome browser and I would like to know if there is a way to skip over adds while reading or searching the innernet. It sure would be nice to be able to do this Thanks much,. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT AND THE DAY IS AT HAND For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sayall in Excel
Really makes no sense to try and read the entire spreadsheet, cell-by-cell. Each cell is its own focused element. JAWS will not do a say all in a spreadsheet. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 08:10 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sayall in Excel Morning all. I was working on an Excel 13 worksheet, and I found I could not use the say all command in a spreadsheet. Is this something with excel, or is it a jaws function that is not accessible with spreadsheets? I am using Windows 10, Jaws 2018 and Excel 13 on a Dell laptop. Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
That seems a bit vague, even to me. Do you bring up the file list in the "Open" dialog of Notepad? If so, you also need to change the file type to "all files" to see any PDF document. I'm thinking that your idea is based on JAWS 2018 with the capability to recognize a PDF file directly from a file list in Windows Explorer, and not opening it. If so, then Notepad has nothing to do with the process -- the virtual viewer will come up without having Notepad open. I'm not sure the requester has said what version of JAWS is being used. Also the context menu that pops up does not say "OCR" it instead says "Recognize with JAWS". Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:17 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018 easy. open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them. open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds for it to process the text. do not press the escape key or it will close. then you can view the text of the pdf file. the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the scanned image. -Original Message- From: Vicki W. Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM To: JAWS Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018 I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS 2018 to read them? Thanks. Vicki For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are: Insert+Spacebar Release to hear a click sound Press the letter O release Press the letter D release You should hear a response that it is working I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018 That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other window opens. The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a difference? Vicki - Original Message - From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018 > Hi Vicki, > > After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od" > (without the quotes). > This invokes the OCR document scan. It will take a bit of time for the > scan, depending on the size of your document. > The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer. > If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the > text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file. > > Reed > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Vicki W. > Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM > To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018 > > I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS > 2018 to read them? > > Thanks. > > Vicki > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services
Not sure how to answer. If your friend is asking about other email servers, I suspect it is based on their web interface. Otherwise, the question might apply to the email client, perhaps? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "t" <1forjh...@gmail.com> To: "jul" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:01 Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services I know that jaws works on gmail and yahoo email, but are there other free email services that work with jaws? I have a blind friend that�s not on the list that asked me this question For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Nope. Captchas are written in very hard-to-read text, on a very hard-to-read foreground/background color combination. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "LeDon" <led...@tx.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 16:05 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I think that seeing AI might do what you want, if that is reading a sign or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 12:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!.
Randy, Sorry, but unless I personally know the sender of a link, I do not click on it. No disrespect intended. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "randy tijerina" <music_...@satx.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 15:31 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!. Hi friendsthis link supposedly shows..the menu to this joint in San antonio. However, jaws just says...one heading or whatever..and 10 links...How do I get the menu to display? http://www.chestershamburgers.com/menu.html For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Ed and Others, Be very careful when using BeMyEyes to read your computer screen. Make sure you get to the captcha section *before* you enter any personal information, and make sure that there is *no* other personal information on that screen or on other windows in the background. As nice as the BeMyEyes service is, it is a human on the other end who is reading your computer screen, and they can see everything on it. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mr. Ed" <pink...@abe.midco.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 08:46 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel 13 Inquiry
Jerry, Check on where your default file folder is. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 09:59 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Excel 13 Inquiry Morning everyone. I use Excel 2013, JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. I have a curious problem whenever attempting to open a previously saved excel file. I go to the open menu, and tab to the list of previously opened files, and my particular worksheet is not in the list. I have to go into my documents, and locate it that way. I have tried saving it after opening it, closing Excel, and reopening it, but I get the same results. Any suggestions/recommendations? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Appears that Webvizum is dead. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 08:53 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Anybody use web vism? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Kevin, Usually does not work well, but always worth a try. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:36 Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook
Settings/General. Look for an "always start in edit mode" checkbox. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Robin Frost" <robin...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 09:19 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook Hi, How do you get it to stay in edit mode all the time? I didn't know it could and always manually switch mine to such every session. It's neat to know of this thanks in advance. Robin -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook Since I always have it in edit mode it did slip my mind that space bar would launch a scan in read only mode, thanks. -Original Message- From: cheez Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook Thanks, Dave, I was going to mention f4 is to scan. Vince - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > Either f4 or spacebar to launch a scan. However if you have Openbook in > edit > mode, then only f4 will launch a scan. The default Openbook voice is very > similar to eloquence, so likely that is what you are hearing. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 07:59 > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > > > I believe David the head honcho of this list said press F4. > I really don't know, just ever since I installed it Elequis has been > speaking. maybe OpenBook has the Elequis voice ! > > -Original Message- > From: cheez > Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:09 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > > Eh, Kevin, how does one do that? > > > Vince > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 5:53 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > > >> you can set OpenBook to use jaws speech instead of OpenBook speech! it's >> always been like that since OpenBook 8! >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook
Cheddar, F4 works in either mode. Spacebar only works in read-only mode. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 07:45 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook I didn't know F4 would scan in Edit mode. I always have mine in Read Only mode. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > Since I always have it in edit mode it did slip my mind that space bar > would launch a scan in read only mode, thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: cheez > Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 12:29 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > > Thanks, Dave, I was going to mention f4 is to scan. > > Vince > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > > >> Either f4 or spacebar to launch a scan. However if you have Openbook in >> edit >> mode, then only f4 will launch a scan. The default Openbook voice is very >> similar to eloquence, so likely that is what you are hearing. >> >> Dave >> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> >> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 07:59 >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook >> >> >> I believe David the head honcho of this list said press F4. >> I really don't know, just ever since I installed it Elequis has been >> speaking. maybe OpenBook has the Elequis voice ! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: cheez >> Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:09 AM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook >> >> Eh, Kevin, how does one do that? >> >> >> Vince >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> >> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 5:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook >> >> >>> you can set OpenBook to use jaws speech instead of OpenBook speech! >>> it's >>> always been like that since OpenBook 8! >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook
Either f4 or spacebar to launch a scan. However if you have Openbook in edit mode, then only f4 will launch a scan. The default Openbook voice is very similar to eloquence, so likely that is what you are hearing. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 07:59 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook I believe David the head honcho of this list said press F4. I really don't know, just ever since I installed it Elequis has been speaking. maybe OpenBook has the Elequis voice ! -Original Message- From: cheez Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook Eh, Kevin, how does one do that? Vince - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook > you can set OpenBook to use jaws speech instead of OpenBook speech! it's > always been like that since OpenBook 8! > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iCloud?
John, Nice letter, and thanks for paving the way. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "John R Vaughn" <jrvaugh...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 08:43 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iCloud? Rose, I sent a message to : accessibil...@apple.com I explained that the last three updates to the ICloud updates made the interface inaccessible. Hopefully all of us will write Apple!!! Below is Apple's response John Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved. Apple Accessibility On December 15, 2017 at 17:42:43 PM GMT, jrvaugh...@comcast.net wrote: >To Whom it may concern: >I am blind and I am a Jaws screen reader user and the IPhone 5S and updated to IPhone 8Plus. Also use an IPad mini second generation. >I use the ICloud on these devices and my two Toshiba Laptops running latest version of Windows 10 Creators Fall edition. >Unfortunately, the ICloud interface on my two computers have not been readable by the screen reader for the last two releases of the ICloud interface. >I sure hope this problem can be fixed. I am on the VIPhone list and there are a number of users who rely on the ability to navigate the controls on the ICloud interface. >Thank you. >John Vaughn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] iCloud? How can iCloud be made accessible. My cousin said I had an update from Apple and she restarted the computer after it downloaded and left. This morning I was in the iCloud window but nothing yielded anything I could do, have no clue if it wanted info from me, no cursor read anything useful. Why? Once it was usable in Windows! How do we make it so again? Rose rosecomb...@cox.net <mailto:rosecomb...@cox.net> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer
Can't comment on other cameras. I believe the offer is US$299 for the Pearl, which is a hell of a bargain. I paid US$600 for my Pearl several years ago. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "wayne smith" <waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 08:31 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer There are a range of standard camers out there that can connect for scanning. Is there a good reason for using the Pearl and what is the cost? Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer Adrian, The Pearl needs a USB connection to a computer, and it requires either using JAWS 2018 in Convenient OCR mode, or Openbook. It is portable, as it folds down into a roughly 3x3x20 inch case. Mine sits on my desk ready to use. Very quick compared to a standard flatbed scanner, since it snaps a picture rather than scanning across the document. Don't have a Kurzweil, so cannot compare. Call me on the phone if you want to talk more about it. Phone number to follow. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 06:27 Subject: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer JAWS 2018 purchasers are being offered a deal on VFO's Pearl Camera. I'd be interested in any thoughts on the value of this device. For example, if I'm away from my PC, does taking a photo with the Pearl have any use? Also, how does the Pearl/JFW compare to the KNFB Reader or any other accessible OCR device? Thanks. If I'm not asking the right questions, please ask and answer them for me!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer
Agree with Jim, but since the Pearl has a very long depth of field, a curvature of a books surface is not at all critical, unless the curvature causes any text to appear distorted. I just press down along the margins to make it flat. Also there is a recognition mode in Openbook where you have the camera detect motion and the lack thereof. So you can lay down the book, allow the snap, then rotate or turn a page and the camera will wait until there is no motion before snapping the next image. This is a very fast way to scan in several pages in succession. To me, that is the biggest benefit to the Pearl camera approach to scanning. The least is that it will not work with other mainstream programs -- not Adobe, not others. Strictly JAWS and Openbook. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Jim Pursley" <jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 07:24 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer Hi, Adrian I have the Pearl/Open Book combination. I use the camera for physical scanning. It scans faster than a flat or curved bed scanner but scanning books must be done face up, presenting a bit of a problem for pressing down securely to get a good scan read. I resolved the press down issue by putting a piece of glass over the book to be scanned and pressing down. Scanning is then pretty comparable to the larger flat/curved bed machines. The camera is mounted on a tripod, which folds up for travel. In all, I'm pleased with the setup. On 12/16/2017 12:27 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: > JAWS 2018 purchasers are being offered a deal on VFO's Pearl Camera. I'd > be interested in any thoughts on the value of this device. For example, if > I'm away from my PC, does taking a photo with the Pearl have any use? > Also, how does the Pearl/JFW compare to the KNFB Reader or any other > accessible OCR device? Thanks. If I'm not asking the right questions, > please ask and answer them for me!! > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > -- James C. Pursley Chief Investment Officer Gaia Capital Management www.gaiacapital.com jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality companies, we seek long term client account growth For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer
Adrian, The Pearl needs a USB connection to a computer, and it requires either using JAWS 2018 in Convenient OCR mode, or Openbook. It is portable, as it folds down into a roughly 3x3x20 inch case. Mine sits on my desk ready to use. Very quick compared to a standard flatbed scanner, since it snaps a picture rather than scanning across the document. Don't have a Kurzweil, so cannot compare. Call me on the phone if you want to talk more about it. Phone number to follow. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 06:27 Subject: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer JAWS 2018 purchasers are being offered a deal on VFO's Pearl Camera. I'd be interested in any thoughts on the value of this device. For example, if I'm away from my PC, does taking a photo with the Pearl have any use? Also, how does the Pearl/JFW compare to the KNFB Reader or any other accessible OCR device? Thanks. If I'm not asking the right questions, please ask and answer them for me!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] enu folder
What operating system? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" <kimsans...@icloud.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 09:08 Subject: [JAWS-Users] enu folder Hi, How do I get to the jaws enu folder? Thanks. If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 sluggishness on internet
Just to confirm, How long does it take to bring up the JAWS find dialog (Ctrl+F)? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> To: "Jaws users list" <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 21:43 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 sluggishness on internet Jaws 2018 sluggishness on internet Don’t know if sluggishness is quite right for what has been occurring with Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on the internet. I have been visiting the Epson, Amazon and Staples Web sites the last few days and whenever you click on a link Jaws goes silent for 15 or 20 seconds before resuming speech. Sometimes I have to tab away from the page to get Jaws talking again. I think this started with 2018. We also have a pc running Windows 10 and Jaws 2018 and it does not have this problem. Anyone know what is going on with this issue? Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE
Mike, Unfortunately the place I'm having problems is in Internet Explorer, in the address field. Not sure one can up/down arrow through suggestions. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:53 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE Hi Dave, See if this will help: From: David Ferrin AutoComplete Have you ever started typing name or email address into Outlook's To field only to have the feature automatically fill in the wrong address? It's very easy to clean out infrequently used names in Outlook's AutoComplete. Start typing an email address. When Outlook displays address options, use the Up and Down arrow keys to highlight the name/address you want to remove, and then press DELETE. Press the Delete key to remove the name. David Ferrin Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message ----- From: Dave...Oregonian To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:11 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE Windows 7 32-bit IE 11.0 I have an entry that always pops up first, and I'd like to purge it from the list of Auto Complete entries. These are apparently not in the registry. Any clues how to delete just one, rather than purging the entire history or temporary files? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE
Windows 7 32-bit IE 11.0 I have an entry that always pops up first, and I'd like to purge it from the list of Auto Complete entries. These are apparently not in the registry. Any clues how to delete just one, rather than purging the entire history or temporary files? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
George, There is no JAWS 19. Are you sure of that message? Can you use Insert+Spacebar followed by H to get the speech history up for perusal? What version of Adobe are you using to view the PDF? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "George Martinez Sr" <ga.marti...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 07:01 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Rebecca, I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF file. When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message: "Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running" Seems that method does not work for all... Would be nice if it did. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting
Kevin, no horse hockey here. I suspect you just need to delete the Word document text before you paste the Notepad text back. Steps: Select all in Word Ctrl C copy Del to clean it out. Open Notepad Ctrl V to paste Esc to remove highlight Ctrl A to select again Ctrl C to copy Go back to the empty Word document Ctrl V to paste. I am intrigued by those other suggestions of Alt + H + E and alt, ctrl, shift, S with F6. Have to try them some time. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 07:31 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting horse hockey copying and pasting into note pad doesn't work to remove formatting in 2016 itt removes the formatting in notepad but when you copy from notepad back to word the formatting is still there! -Original Message- From: T. Civitello Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting Easy way is to copy it into a blank Notepad document and then back into a blank Word document if that is where you want it to be. Tom -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] remove formatting I have a document that was emailed to me that is formatted with stuff like paragraph mark, line 1, space marker how can I remove formatting of the whole document using word 2016 jaws 2018 latest Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] silence jaws
Make sure you are doing it right -- Press JAWS + Spacebar, then release. Then press the letter S. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <klee...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 18:23 Subject: [JAWS-Users] silence jaws the jaws feature to silence speech is great but it’s so hard to activate the togole button. I must press jaws key and the spacebar then the letter s but it doesn’t silence jaws so I gotta press the combination again and again until it finally silences. then when I’m finished it’s so hard to toggle speech back on. is there a more simple way to do this? using jaws 2018 latest. Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech
John, Agree that it's not RAM. I suspect that since JAWS 17, when they came out with a new paradigm for how it works "under the hood", they began to use some memory space that is often crowded by other applications, or perhaps subjugated in the processing hierarchy. All I know is, that for any fairly heavy processing (painting an Internet Explorer screen, loading a PDF file, launching Outlook) JAWS often shuts down and comes back later announcing "Home Use Edition". Very irritating. I've turned off the auto restart capability of JAWS in every version since 17. If a program announces that it's not refreshing, then I'd rather know that than to just have JAWS shut down for 20 seconds or more. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <john_just...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:10 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech This temporary loss of Jaws speech seems to be quite common when involving software which uses a lot of RAM. Here's another interesting observation. I have created shortcut keys for loading Jaws and other reading software. During that temporary silence, using the shortcut key for Jaws (CONTROL+ALT+J) doesn't work for restarting jaws. This is a bit out of my league but could it have something to do with not enough RAM in the system? If so, that would be a surprise to me. My new desktop at work has 18 gig of RAM. Yet, it still goes silent temporarily when loading certain on-line packages. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I temporarily lose speech often when accessing an SD card in my built-in card reader. Here's what happens. When I insert my SD card into the card reader, most times I lose speech for about 20 seconds and each time I take some action the same thing happens. For example, I must wait about 20 seconds or so after inserting the card before I can arrow up and down to locate a folder. Once I get speech, I can arrow up and down fine, but as soon as I enter on a folder name to open the folder, I lose speech again for about 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I press the applications key to bring up the context menu. I must wait the 20 seconds or so before I can arrow through the menu. I'm running JAWS 2018 on Windows 10 version 1703, although this same problem occurred on JAWS 18 on this computer. This only happens with SD cards and not absolutely every time, but most times. Accessing the local SSD, external USB drives and network drives all behave as they should. I suspect this might be an issue with some setting in Windows 10, but I have no idea what setting or where to look for it. And perhaps it's something altogether different. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Where is Jaws?
Actually, JAWS will show up in the Processes list. I go there often to kill JAWS when nothing else works. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 21:39 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Where is Jaws? Hi Tom, First, which version of Windows are you running? If you're running Windows 7 you're using the wrong keystroke to open the Task Manager. If you run Jaws from the system tray it won't show in the list of running programs, Insert + F10. Press, Insert + F11, & see if it's in the system tray. When you open the Task Manager for Windows 7, Control, Shift, + Escape, which Tab are you looking at? There are 5 Tabs in the Task Manager: Applications, Processes, Services, Performance, & Networking. If Jaws is running it should show in more than 1 of the tabs, but check the Applications tab, & if Jaws is running & it isn't showing here, someone else needs to give you more help because I sure as hell don't know what to tell you at that point. LOL Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:01 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Where is Jaws? I am running Jaws 15 on a Windows PC. Jaws does not show when pressing insert plus F10. Jaws does not show in the task manager, control shift delete. Jaws does not show whenalt tabbing. Where is Jaws hiding? Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech
I'm more suspicious that it's just JAWS. Ever since JAWS 17, there has been a "pause" effect most often occurring when opening a PDF document, and opening Outlook. I also noticed it pausing when launching ResearchIt, or the JAWS find on a web page. Always around 15 to 20 seconds of silence before speech returns. Still happens with JAWS 2018, and I'm unhappy to hear that it seems to also happen with your Windows 10. I'm still running Windows 7 32-bit on a Dell Latitude. This never happened with JAWS 16 or earlier. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" <listening...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 22:49 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I temporarily lose speech often when accessing an SD card in my built-in card reader. Here's what happens. When I insert my SD card into the card reader, most times I lose speech for about 20 seconds and each time I take some action the same thing happens. For example, I must wait about 20 seconds or so after inserting the card before I can arrow up and down to locate a folder. Once I get speech, I can arrow up and down fine, but as soon as I enter on a folder name to open the folder, I lose speech again for about 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I press the applications key to bring up the context menu. I must wait the 20 seconds or so before I can arrow through the menu. I'm running JAWS 2018 on Windows 10 version 1703, although this same problem occurred on JAWS 18 on this computer. This only happens with SD cards and not absolutely every time, but most times. Accessing the local SSD, external USB drives and network drives all behave as they should. I suspect this might be an issue with some setting in Windows 10, but I have no idea what setting or where to look for it. And perhaps it's something altogether different. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
Yes, but Holgar is a long-time JAWS user, so he's not affected in that way. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 21:04 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD Well, the first time you install JAWS you need to authorize it, and to do that you need the code. I guess if you could get the code some other way, you could authorize the download. if you install it and don't authorize it, it will run in 40 minute mode. Andy - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD > Holgar -- then you've already got it. The CD/DVD is just window-dressing. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 14:35 > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD > > > Got the download but not the CD > > -Original Message- > From: Andy Baracco > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD > > You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you > should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD > on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you > have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have > to > reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually > comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt > to > download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version > of > JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you > will be prompted to authorize the new install. > > Andy > > - Original Message - > From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD > > >>Good question. Never got my. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To: >> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD >> >> >> Hello list, >> >> Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for >> version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. >> Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as >> easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users. >> >>Dave >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
Holgar -- then you've already got it. The CD/DVD is just window-dressing. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 14:35 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD Got the download but not the CD -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have to reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt to download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version of JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you will be prompted to authorize the new install. Andy - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD >Good question. Never got my. > > -Original Message- > From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To: > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD > > > Hello list, > > Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for > version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. > Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as > easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users. > >Dave > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners
Kimsan, Are those banners the undecipherable items showing in a list of suggested past purchases? Always wondered about those. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" <kimsans...@icloud.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 08:55 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners Hi, Amazon banners are recognized via google chrome and firefox. However, using internet explorer, I was curious to know as to why these same amazon banners are not recognized via internet explorer? Jaws does not read them at all. Jaws 18 and windows 10. If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry
Jerry, As I said, they expire when you use them. Call VFO and discuss, since it's still clear as mud. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 08:30 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry Thanks to both you and Eric. Can you tell me how long an upgrade is good for/available? -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry Jerry, Each time you install a major version of JAWS, one of your upgrades will disappear. If you install JAWS 18, you will be down to 1 upgrade. When you install JAWS 2018 you will be down to zero upgrades. If you never install a JAWS version above 17, you will always have two upgrades available. However you will not get any upgrades beyond JAWS 2018, because your SMA allows you two upgrades past your current version of JAWS 17. If you want to go beyond JAWS 2018, I recommend you install both JAWS 18 and JAWS 2018, and contact VFO to purchase a new pair of upgrades. You won't be able to go beyond JAWS 2018 if you don't purchase any new SMA. And I suspect that not purchasing new SMA later this year will mean you will pay big $$$ if/when you finally do upgrade past JAWS 2018. If this is as clear as mud, call VFO at 800-444-4443 in the U.S. or your local dealer. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:46 Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry Morning all. I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2 available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry
Jerry, Each time you install a major version of JAWS, one of your upgrades will disappear. If you install JAWS 18, you will be down to 1 upgrade. When you install JAWS 2018 you will be down to zero upgrades. If you never install a JAWS version above 17, you will always have two upgrades available. However you will not get any upgrades beyond JAWS 2018, because your SMA allows you two upgrades past your current version of JAWS 17. If you want to go beyond JAWS 2018, I recommend you install both JAWS 18 and JAWS 2018, and contact VFO to purchase a new pair of upgrades. You won't be able to go beyond JAWS 2018 if you don't purchase any new SMA. And I suspect that not purchasing new SMA later this year will mean you will pay big $$$ if/when you finally do upgrade past JAWS 2018. If this is as clear as mud, call VFO at 800-444-4443 in the U.S. or your local dealer. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:46 Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry Morning all. I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2 available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness
Jerry, You may have a setting you need to change... 1. Insert +6 to open settings center. 2. Press Ctrl+Shift+D to enable default settings. 3. Type the word Keyboard in the edit field. 4. Tab into the list. 5. Arrow down until you hear Keyboard. 6. Right arrow to open this group. 7. Right arrow to open the General group. 8. F6 to jump over to the dialog window. 9. Tab until you hear Differentiate Between Left and Right Paired Keys. 10. Make sure this is unchecked. 11. F6 to go back to the Settings Center List. 12. Tab to OK. 13. Press Enter. See if that fixes the problem. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:36 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness Laura: Thanks for the reply. I am using a Dell laptop keyboard, but I know that the other keys work because I use them quite often in Word documents. -Original Message- From: Laura Richardson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness Hi Jerry, If you're using a desktop keyboard, have you tried another keyboard to see if maybe the keyboard isn't working? Laura -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness Morning all. I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting JAWS as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the left of the spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the right of the spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in advance. I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Registry Question
Already answered in a previous message to you. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Registry Question Evening all. I have a question regarding the registry files. First of all, how would I go about backing up these files. And second, Is the information on the registry accessible with JAWS. I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scanned Image and JAWS OCR
Jerry, Um, did you open it in Adobe Reader, or some other Adobe application? The "D" is meant for PDF documents. If this is a jpg or img or tif file, then you might need to use the "W" or "S" option in the OCR recognition. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 08:13 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scanned Image and JAWS OCR Yes I did. I know that you should wait for a few minutes, but after doing so, there was still nothing. Thanks -Original Message- From: George Martinez Sr Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 8:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scanned Image and JAWS OCR Did you hit a "D" after the "O"? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:18 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scanned Image and JAWS OCR Morning all. I just scanned a copy of my discharge papers from the US Coast Guard. After saving it, I tried to open it and read it using JAWS OCR. I pressed the JawsKey and Spacebar. Then I hit O for OCR, and then D. I heard a piano chime, but nothing from JAWS after that. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong on this? I went into my pictures folder in This PC to get the properties on the image, but could not get any specifics on it. I am running JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. I am also using a Canon CanoScan scanner. Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Registry cleaner programs
Jerry, Maybe not necessarily better, but easy to use, and so far has never caused my system to crash after a registry cleaning: CCleaner. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 07:43 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Registry cleaner programs Morning all. I know that, on the JAWS Users site, there are 6 downloadable programs for disk cleanup and registry cleaning. Can anyone tell me which one is the better one for cleaning up the registry files? I know that accessibility is dependant on the user, so this might be a tricky question to answer. I am using JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] saga of the Seagate drive
Lenny, Bummer. I lost a 2 Tb drive a few months back. Fortunately I was able to get it to read sporadically enough to gather the data that was essential, then I cut it open with pliers and a screwdriver to see what makes it tick. Now a new 4 Tb replaced it. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" <lennymch...@comcast.net> To: "JFW List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:09 Subject: [JAWS-Users] saga of the Seagate drive Not sure why but my computer now sees the drive however the partition must be corrupted. I contacted Seagate and their recovery service on the drive is out of my reach. For a hardware type recovery it would be $599 or $699 if I wanted them to put the files on the drive. They have recovery software that does not work on my win 7 machine. After a few attempts I called back. I was told that my computer with 4gb does not have enough memory. I do believe that a win 7 32 bit machine can only use 4 gb. I plan to call a few computer shops for estimates. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives
Yes, now I will insert a caveat that these are running on an XP operating system at 32 bits. I hear that access times are affected by this combination, but I do have full access to the 4 Tb. And these are internal drives connected using SATA. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 05:26 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives Interesting, my research indicates that anything over 2 terabytes is not addressed using NTFS, guess you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Thank you, so I gather you are addressing every bit of your 4 terabytes. -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:15 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives David, I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34 Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own case that it is most likely already formatted. I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is all. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives
David, I have a couple internal 4Tb drives in my desktop tower, but have no idea what GPT is. I formatted mine (or ensured that they are formatted) as NTFS. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 03:34 Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about large external hard drives I have been considering getting a 4 terabyte drive or even possibly larger and I am already aware that if is an internal drive that goes in a case it has to be formatted as GPT. Conversely I figure if it is already in its’ own case that it is most likely already formatted. I was just curious if there was anything else to make note or be aware of is all. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] external drive problem
Lenny, This has happened to me. Try this: Disconnect the drive via your USB cable. Shut down your computer. Start up your computer and wait until you get to the desktop. Connect your USB cable. Hopefully this will work. If not, then you might want to try a system restore back to before you last saw that drive. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" <lennymch...@comcast.net> To: "JFW List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 09:27 Subject: [JAWS-Users] external drive problem I have a Seagate ex drive that I use to backup on my win 7 machine. I do not know when it started but today under my computer it is no longer listed. Device manager reports that it is working correctly and that I have the newest driver installed. I restarted the computer several times and the drive is not listed. I think it was about 2 weeks ago when I last used it. Pulling out the usb cable I hear the tone alert likewise when I plug it back in again I hear the tones. Any thoughts on how I can correct this? Thanks --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
