Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
On the machines I uninstalled Avast from, it was necessary to tab one or two times, without speech, before uninstallation proceeds. The reason is a dialogue box comes up, but JAWS can't access it. It is to do with the self defence module. You need to do this quick or else the dialogue assumes you don't want to turn it off and thus uninstallation fails. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Please join my two lists: 1. Blind Mozilla (blind-mozilla-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) 2. Blind Virtual Machines (b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) On 26/01/2010 01:15, Rick Harmon wrote: No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrind...@jaws-users.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmonrickhar...@sbcglobal.net To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justicericjust...@jaws-users.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paulnewsandtraf...@hotmail To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paulnewsandtraf...@hotmail To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smithssm...@mastnet.net To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Folks, I have heard, from another list, that a member has contacted Alwil software and their response was that support for screen readers will be implemented in a few months. Thought I would let you know. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Please join my two lists: 1. Blind Mozilla (blind-mozilla-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) 2. Blind Virtual Machines (b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) On 25/01/2010 23:45, RJ wrote: Thanks for the info. Now all I have to do is get busy. smile - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 17:44 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. You can download MSE from the web page below. Under the heading First Look: Microsoft Security Essentials Impresses click on one of the three links appropriate to your OS (Xp 32 bit, Vista/7 32 bit or Vista/7 64 bit) and your download should start immediately. Installation is simple and straightforward, with no special cofiguration settings to deal with. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/first-look-microsoft-security-essentials-impresses.ars Gerald - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Where does one get MSSE? - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 09:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
David, It would seem to me that the Pro and free versions would not be all that different in terms of their interface . You may want to hold off a bit? Any particular reason you are favoring Avast to MSE? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. This is all well and good but are they going to change the interface of the pro version is something we don't know. I would pay for it quick if I knew that little fact. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I'm using version 4.8 Pro. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Are you using version 5 of the pro or is it listed another way? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Hi Chris. Thanks for the info. I too have written Alwil Software this morning about this same problem and am waiting for a response from them. So we shall see what we shall see. Hopefully it will be good. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
It would seem to me that the interfaces on both versions most likely will be the same. So far on my lap top I can tell you that MSE is more screen reader friendly than avast. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. David, It would seem to me that the Pro and free versions would not be all that different in terms of their interface . You may want to hold off a bit? Any particular reason you are favoring Avast to MSE? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. This is all well and good but are they going to change the interface of the pro version is something we don't know. I would pay for it quick if I knew that little fact. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I'm using version 4.8 Pro. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Are you using version 5 of the pro or is it listed another way? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I received a response today from the Avast folks, regarding screen reader accessibility issues with the new version 5. According to the response, screen reader support will be part of the 5.1 release, scheduled for sometime this summer. John - Original Message - From: kim kelly kim...@clearwire.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Thanks for the information, I will not upgrade my avast. I am using Jaws 7 and I am sure that upgrading would be a waist of time. Again, thanks for the heads/up Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I disabled the tray icon, but no matter what I did it still showed up in the system tray when I rebooted. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I think everyone's systems seem to handle updates differently, as with this Avast situation. The version of Jaws I'm sure will make a difference too. Strange how that is, when 2 people have the exact same setup, one works fine and the other has issues. I got the same response from Avast as others did, that an accessible version will be released soon with no date. Do you suppose Mitchell is a bot? LOL He was a busy guy answering all of our emails, and all had the same wording I think. Rhonda - Original Message - From: Demir Ajvazi demir.beo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Really? Today I've installed the newest version of avast pro, and my jaws 10 is working perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Don't hold your breath waiting for an accessible version of Avast to be released. The bottom line is that as long as you are not using the latest version because it is inaccessible, your security may be compromised. When it comes to anti-virus programs, it is important to keep up to date to minimize your risk of a malware attack. Obviously, the folks at Avast do not take screen reader accessibility very seriously, or else they would make it a top priority instead of offering an unspecified date sometime in the future for a resolution. This is unconscionable. For those of you who insist on hanging on to the last accessible version of this program, lotsa luck. Just don't be surprised if your PC suffers a malware attack while you wait (perhaps in vain) for a new accessible version to be released. And while you're at it, ask these fine folks why they make it so difficult to remove Avast. Are they afraid that you'll switch to one of their competitors? Quite frankly, they should be, because the competition is better. To be fair, I have never used Avast, mainly because I heard so many horror stories about trying to uninstall it. So when my license for the paid version of AVG 8.5 expired, I switched to MSE without even considering Avast, and I'm glad I did. Gerald - Original Message - From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I think everyone's systems seem to handle updates differently, as with this Avast situation. The version of Jaws I'm sure will make a difference too. Strange how that is, when 2 people have the exact same setup, one works fine and the other has issues. I got the same response from Avast as others did, that an accessible version will be released soon with no date. Do you suppose Mitchell is a bot? LOL He was a busy guy answering all of our emails, and all had the same wording I think. Rhonda - Original Message - From: Demir Ajvazi demir.beo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Really? Today I've installed the newest version of avast pro, and my jaws 10 is working perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Smiles, what's the uninstall like for mSSE? Far easier than Avast I hope. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Please join my two lists: 1. Blind Mozilla (blind-mozilla-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) 2. Blind Virtual Machines (b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) On 26/01/2010 18:53, Gerald Levy wrote: Don't hold your breath waiting for an accessible version of Avast to be released. The bottom line is that as long as you are not using the latest version because it is inaccessible, your security may be compromised. When it comes to anti-virus programs, it is important to keep up to date to minimize your risk of a malware attack. Obviously, the folks at Avast do not take screen reader accessibility very seriously, or else they would make it a top priority instead of offering an unspecified date sometime in the future for a resolution. This is unconscionable. For those of you who insist on hanging on to the last accessible version of this program, lotsa luck. Just don't be surprised if your PC suffers a malware attack while you wait (perhaps in vain) for a new accessible version to be released. And while you're at it, ask these fine folks why they make it so difficult to remove Avast. Are they afraid that you'll switch to one of their competitors? Quite frankly, they should be, because the competition is better. To be fair, I have never used Avast, mainly because I heard so many horror stories about trying to uninstall it. So when my license for the paid version of AVG 8.5 expired, I switched to MSE without even considering Avast, and I'm glad I did. Gerald - Original Message - From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I think everyone's systems seem to handle updates differently, as with this Avast situation. The version of Jaws I'm sure will make a difference too. Strange how that is, when 2 people have the exact same setup, one works fine and the other has issues. I got the same response from Avast as others did, that an accessible version will be released soon with no date. Do you suppose Mitchell is a bot? LOL He was a busy guy answering all of our emails, and all had the same wording I think. Rhonda - Original Message - From: Demir Ajvazi demir.beo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Really? Today I've installed the newest version of avast pro, and my jaws 10 is working perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I'm sure MSE can be easily uninstalled using either Add/Remove Programs on the Control Panel or Revo Uninstaller. Gerald - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Smiles, what's the uninstall like for mSSE? Far easier than Avast I hope. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Please join my two lists: 1. Blind Mozilla (blind-mozilla-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) 2. Blind Virtual Machines (b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com) On 26/01/2010 18:53, Gerald Levy wrote: Don't hold your breath waiting for an accessible version of Avast to be released. The bottom line is that as long as you are not using the latest version because it is inaccessible, your security may be compromised. When it comes to anti-virus programs, it is important to keep up to date to minimize your risk of a malware attack. Obviously, the folks at Avast do not take screen reader accessibility very seriously, or else they would make it a top priority instead of offering an unspecified date sometime in the future for a resolution. This is unconscionable. For those of you who insist on hanging on to the last accessible version of this program, lotsa luck. Just don't be surprised if your PC suffers a malware attack while you wait (perhaps in vain) for a new accessible version to be released. And while you're at it, ask these fine folks why they make it so difficult to remove Avast. Are they afraid that you'll switch to one of their competitors? Quite frankly, they should be, because the competition is better. To be fair, I have never used Avast, mainly because I heard so many horror stories about trying to uninstall it. So when my license for the paid version of AVG 8.5 expired, I switched to MSE without even considering Avast, and I'm glad I did. Gerald - Original Message - From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I think everyone's systems seem to handle updates differently, as with this Avast situation. The version of Jaws I'm sure will make a difference too. Strange how that is, when 2 people have the exact same setup, one works fine and the other has issues. I got the same response from Avast as others did, that an accessible version will be released soon with no date. Do you suppose Mitchell is a bot? LOL He was a busy guy answering all of our emails, and all had the same wording I think. Rhonda - Original Message - From: Demir Ajvazi demir.beo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Really? Today I've installed the newest version of avast pro, and my jaws 10 is working perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
thanks I did save this message sue - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. You can download MSE from the web page below. Under the heading First Look: Microsoft Security Essentials Impresses click on one of the three links appropriate to your OS (Xp 32 bit, Vista/7 32 bit or Vista/7 64 bit) and your download should start immediately. Installation is simple and straightforward, with no special cofiguration settings to deal with. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/first-look-microsoft-security-essentials-impresses.ars Gerald - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Where does one get MSSE? - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 09:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Now this is inconvenient news to say the least. So another software update leaves us in the cold. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Thank goodness for MSE. Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Now this is inconvenient news to say the least. So another software update leaves us in the cold. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Hello there; although I don't use the avast program, perhaps, you should first shut the program down from your system tray, before you go to AddSlashRemove. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Now this is inconvenient news to say the least. So another software update leaves us in the cold. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I disabled the tray icon, but no matter what I did it still showed up in the system tray when I rebooted. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
That's fine and thanks for letting us know it does not work with JAWS. Think I will stick with MSSE. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 On 25/01/2010 14:29, Stanley Smith wrote: Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I'm thinking of all the people who I have setup with avast already that will now need to be changed over to MSE. Not a huge job but many of them do not like change unless things stay the same. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
If Avast still shows up in the System Tray, try closing it using Windows Task Manager (Alt-Control-Delete). Locate it on the Applications or Processes page, tab to the End Task button and hit Space. Once Avast has been closed, try to remove it using their removal tool or Revo Uninstaller. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I disabled the tray icon, but no matter what I did it still showed up in the system tray when I rebooted. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Hello Stanley, Another list member had the same problem with uninstalling Avast. Here is the information that I wrote concerning that situation. The steps below should be done after you have disabled Avast through the context menu for the system tray icon and done the normal uninstall process through the control panel applet for add/remove or programs and features. Hopefully uninstall will have worked for you after disabling Avast from the system tray and uninstalling it with their tool or through the control panel applet. However, if you still have problems then you might want to try the following procedures. Avast has about four services that start with your computer system. You can see if they are still listed in your services and if so then disable them. 1. Press Windows key with R to bring up the run dialog box. 2. Type in services.msc without the quotes and press enter key. Wait a few seconds for the list of services to appear. When they are in view then you will be in the tree view of local services. If that doesn't bring up the list of services then you might need to type in CMD and press enter at the run prompt and then when you get a command prompt type in services.msc and press enter key. 3. Use tab key to move into your list of services. 4. use down arrow until you find an Avast service. Services are listed alphabetically. 5. When you find an Avast service then use application key and arrow up to the properties choice and press enter key. 6. Use tab key to the startup type combo box and use down arrow to the disable choice. Tab to an apply button if present or the OK button and press enter key. 7. When back in the list of services use down arrow and perform the same actions on any services that start with the Avast name. You might also want to check the run areas of your registry. If you work in the registry be very careful not to make any other changes as there is no opportunity to save or undo changes you make. 1. Bring up the run dialog box by using Windows key with R. 2. Type in regedit and press enter key. 3. You should be in a tree view of the registry hierarchy. If you are in a list view then use shift tab to move into the tree view. In the hierarchy you open a level by using right arrow key and close a level by using left arrow key. Use left arrow in the tree structure until you hear my computer open. 4. Use down arrow to HKEY_CurrentUser and use right arrow to open the level. 5. Press S or S O until you find the software choice and right arrow to open the level. 6. Press M or M I to move to Microsoft and open the level. 7. Press W or W I until you get to the Windows choice and use right arrow key to open the level. 8. Press C to move to the current version choice and open the level. 9. Press the letters R U until you find the Run choice and then use tab to the list view. 10. Use up or down arrow keys to find any references to Avast and delete them using the delete key and answering confirmation prompts. 11. Use shift+tab back to the tree structure and arrow down to the next choice that starts with run. 12. use tab into the list and check for any Avast entries. Delete them if you find them. 13. Continue to move between the tree and list views using tab and shift+tab keys. Check the list view for any Avast entries for any entries in the tree structure that start with the word run including RunOnce, Run Services, etc. 14. Move back in the tree view using left arrow key until my computer open is found. 15. Use down arrow key to HKEY_Local Machine and open it. 16. Follow the same steps as you did for the current user hive, deleting any references to Avast in the run boxes. Also delete the Alwil software folder in program files, (that is a l w I l). CCleaner also has a uninstall tool that might help. In the CCleaner window use tab to the tools button and press spacebar or enter key. Use tab to the uninstall button and press spacebar. Use tab to the list of programs and down arrow to Avast. Tab to the uninstaller button and press spacebar. Follow prompts. In CCleaner you can also open tools as mentioned above and use the start up button to show a list of startup processes. Tab to the list after using start up button. Each entry is marked as yes or no meaning whether or not they should start with Windows. Use down arrow through the list to find any Avast choices. If you find one then tab to the delete button and use it. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Smith Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I disabled the tray icon, but no matter what I did it still showed up in the system tray when I rebooted. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Yeah, but once they switch from Avast to MSE, they'll be glad they did. BTW, why not add a direct download link for MSE to the JAWS Users programs page. This link is pretty hard to locate on the MSE downloads page. Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I'm thinking of all the people who I have setup with avast already that will now need to be changed over to MSE. Not a huge job but many of them do not like change unless things stay the same. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I needed to uninstall Avast to effectively run a program called autorun eater to remove a virus from my Ipod. I discovered mostly by accident that if you highlight Avast in the system tray and hit the application key there are several areas to terminate avast. for example, there is a stop on access protection control, stop protection submenu and other items. When I went into these menu options I was able to terminate Avast and then I was able to uninstall avast in add/remove in the XP control panel. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Thank goodness for MSE. Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Now this is inconvenient news to say the least. So another software update leaves us in the cold. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Yeah good idea. I don't think MS will mind but obviously the owners would have to check first. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 On 25/01/2010 15:06, Gerald Levy wrote: Yeah, but once they switch from Avast to MSE, they'll be glad they did. BTW, why not add a direct download link for MSE to the JAWS Users programs page. This link is pretty hard to locate on the MSE downloads page. Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I'm thinking of all the people who I have setup with avast already that will now need to be changed over to MSE. Not a huge job but many of them do not like change unless things stay the same. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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You're welcome. How would I go about uninstalling Avast and switching over to MSSE? Thanks. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Okay Gerald, will do. Hate to tell everybody what happened to me, but I really feel Alwil Software needs to know about this if it will do us any good. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Brian, thanks a lot for all this info. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
what is the best way to uninstall avast? Kathy - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I disabled the tray icon, but no matter what I did it still showed up in the system tray when I rebooted. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I wish you hadn't said that, I have enough grey hair already. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I sent a note off to the Avast people this morning, regarding the apparent lack of screen reader support in version 5. My guess is that the version 4 product is going to be supported for some time to come, so I don't think there needs to be a mass rush to remove Avast. I am going to sit back and see if they are receptive to making changes that will allow screen reader access. Over the past several years, I have grown very fond of the Avast product. I will say that I do have MSE installed on one of my computers and it is also a very good solution. On an unrelated note, many of our customers computers have AVG installed. During the past month, we have seen an alarming number of viruses that AVG is letting through. We have been removing AVG and installing either Avast or MSE, with very good results. I will post any response that I receive from Avast. It may help if other screen reader users also drop them a note. Send it to: supp...@avast.com. John - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
David, I have used the Avast removal tool in normal Windows and it worked fine. Also, if you stop on-access protection prior to using add/remove, that usually also works for the removal. John - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I wish you hadn't said that, I have enough grey hair already. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Great idea. Let's just see what happens. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
The problem with not updateing to the latest version of Avast (or any other anti-virus program, for that matter), is that you may leave yourself vulnerable to security holes or other bugs that compromise the program's performance. Gerald - Original Message - From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I sent a note off to the Avast people this morning, regarding the apparent lack of screen reader support in version 5. My guess is that the version 4 product is going to be supported for some time to come, so I don't think there needs to be a mass rush to remove Avast. I am going to sit back and see if they are receptive to making changes that will allow screen reader access. Over the past several years, I have grown very fond of the Avast product. I will say that I do have MSE installed on one of my computers and it is also a very good solution. On an unrelated note, many of our customers computers have AVG installed. During the past month, we have seen an alarming number of viruses that AVG is letting through. We have been removing AVG and installing either Avast or MSE, with very good results. I will post any response that I receive from Avast. It may help if other screen reader users also drop them a note. Send it to: supp...@avast.com. John - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Contact there support team. There is an email link at the register page. I don't have it on hand though. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Smith Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Okay Gerald, will do. Hate to tell everybody what happened to me, but I really feel Alwil Software needs to know about this if it will do us any good. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Thanks for the information, I will not upgrade my avast. I am using Jaws 7 and I am sure that upgrading would be a waist of time. Again, thanks for the heads/up Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I disabled the tray icon, but no matter what I did it still showed up in the system tray when I rebooted. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
What is MSE, and is it accessable with older versions of Jaws? Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I believe MSE is Microsoft's spyware and virus protection, but I could be wrong though. I'm not sure which versions of JAWS it works with. -Original Message- From: kim kelly kim...@clearwire.net Sent: January 25, 2010 11:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. What is MSE, and is it accessable with older versions of Jaws? Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Thanks. Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Riley Blake crblak...@live.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I believe MSE is Microsoft's spyware and virus protection, but I could be wrong though. I'm not sure which versions of JAWS it works with. -Original Message- From: kim kelly kim...@clearwire.net Sent: January 25, 2010 11:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. What is MSE, and is it accessable with older versions of Jaws? Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
MSE is Microsoft Security Essentials, a free antimalware solution that includes free real-time protection and even the ability to schedule on-demand scans. It should work with older version of JAWS But ai am not sure. Hope that helps. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 On 25/01/2010 18:11, Riley Blake wrote: I believe MSE is Microsoft's spyware and virus protection, but I could be wrong though. I'm not sure which versions of JAWS it works with. -Original Message- From: kim kellykim...@clearwire.net Sent: January 25, 2010 11:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. What is MSE, and is it accessable with older versions of Jaws? Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levybwaylimi...@verizon.net To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smithssm...@mastnet.net To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
MSE stands for Microsoft Security Essentials, the free real-time anti-virus, anti-malware program from MS that is fully JAWS accessible and a breeze to use. Because of its simple interface, it should work with earlier versions of JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: Riley Blake crblak...@live.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I believe MSE is Microsoft's spyware and virus protection, but I could be wrong though. I'm not sure which versions of JAWS it works with. -Original Message- From: kim kelly kim...@clearwire.net Sent: January 25, 2010 11:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. What is MSE, and is it accessable with older versions of Jaws? Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington Skype: kblinky97 I am also on Facebook. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] comments on JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
First, let me say I did check out the new avast and it does have some significant problems. This led to me uninstalling and going with mse. Avast is not totally inaccessible, but some important dialog boxes are. You can use the mouse and navigate most of the dialog boxes in avast. This is a far cry from previous versions where you could use tab and shift tab, but it is still doable. What caused me to go forward with the uninstall are the dialogs that pop up when, for example, you disable the protection through the context menu. These are totally inaccessible. I had to guess where the buttons were. So yes, it is inaccessible in some key parts. But is it totally unusable? The answer is if you know how to use the mouse (jaws cursor) then no. Part of the problem is that jaws thinks every button is a dialog box. Hope this helps someone. Shane For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
hi, its not at all! accessible and disabling the self defence mojuel is evene worse! to try and do in avast 5 just my observations - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:18 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Great idea. Let's just see what happens. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Really? Today I've installed the newest version of avast pro, and my jaws 10 is working perfectly. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. That's fine and thanks for letting us know it does not work with JAWS. Think I will stick with MSSE. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 On 25/01/2010 14:29, Stanley Smith wrote: Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Where does one get MSSE? - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 09:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Avast Pro is not free though. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 On 25/01/2010 22:22, Demir Ajvazi wrote: Really? Today I've installed the newest version of avast pro, and my jaws 10 is working perfectly. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. That's fine and thanks for letting us know it does not work with JAWS. Think I will stick with MSSE. Chris Hallsworth e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 On 25/01/2010 14:29, Stanley Smith wrote: Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
You can download MSE from the web page below. Under the heading First Look: Microsoft Security Essentials Impresses click on one of the three links appropriate to your OS (Xp 32 bit, Vista/7 32 bit or Vista/7 64 bit) and your download should start immediately. Installation is simple and straightforward, with no special cofiguration settings to deal with. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/first-look-microsoft-security-essentials-impresses.ars Gerald - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Where does one get MSSE? - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 09:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Thanks for the info. Now all I have to do is get busy. smile - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 17:44 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. You can download MSE from the web page below. Under the heading First Look: Microsoft Security Essentials Impresses click on one of the three links appropriate to your OS (Xp 32 bit, Vista/7 32 bit or Vista/7 64 bit) and your download should start immediately. Installation is simple and straightforward, with no special cofiguration settings to deal with. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/first-look-microsoft-security-essentials-impresses.ars Gerald - Original Message - From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Where does one get MSSE? - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 09:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Apparently, the fine folks at Avast don't really care about us blind users. Besides, MSE is more accessible anyway and does a better job at virus detection, according to recent comparison tests. Gerald - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Yes it does. No matter what I did in the graphical user interface, nothing happened, so I restored my system like I mentioned and here I am again. I hate to tell the list all about this, but this is exactly what happened. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use it in Safe Mode. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Stanley For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
I got rid of it and now just deciding on which program to throw on the system right now. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried
Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws.
Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried
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Are you using version 5 of the pro or is it listed another way? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct
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I'm using version 4.8 Pro. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Are you using version 5 of the pro or is it listed another way? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list
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Just remember, that just because an anti-virus program doesn't detect anything, doesn't necessarily mean that something isn't there. No matter what program is used, something is going to slip by it. The best you can hope for is one that is Jaws friendly, and you feel comfortable with. Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0
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wow! it refuses to leave the comfort zone of your computer Dave. I've only just got my avast to tell me when it's been updated, and I think I'm still on the earlier version which I will stick to. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast in the past, but it didn't completely uninstall and was still in the system tray when I rebooted. Right now I'm still using Avast 4 Home Edition and Windows XP Professional SP3. I'm using Jaws 9.0, the latest build. I have downloaded alwil Software's uninstall utility, but I'm told I will need to use
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This is such the hot topic today! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimarain Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. wow! it refuses to leave the comfort zone of your computer Dave. I've only just got my avast to tell me when it's been updated, and I think I'm still on the earlier version which I will stick to. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use their removal tool. Which You can find from their website at avast.com. Once again You must run this removal tool in safe mode which renders jaws useless. So, You, will need sighted assistance to complete this process. I have attempted to do all the steps which Brian listed and was successful at doing them all. However avast still remains when You attempt to uninstall it the normal way that You would uninstall a program. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:42 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Stanley: First off, thanks for the information on avast's version 5 accessibility. Second, You're correct in that You will have to use the uninstall tool in safe mood which makes jaws unusable. You will need sighted assistance to complete this project. - Original Message - From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:37 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Hi list. I tried the new Avast 5.0 free version out on my PC this morning, found it inaccessible with Jaws because alwil Software has changed the interface into a graphical interface, so I restored my computer using my backup I created with Image for Windowswhich already had Avast 4 Home Edition. Now, what I would like to do is uninstall Avast 4 Home Edition and use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. I have tried to uninstall Avast
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This is all well and good but are they going to change the interface of the pro version is something we don't know. I would pay for it quick if I knew that little fact. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I'm using version 4.8 Pro. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Are you using version 5 of the pro or is it listed another way? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Its $39.99 for 1 year and $74.99 for 2 years. I know there are less expensive programs out there but I have never had any virus or spyware of any type wile using this program. And it works flawlessly with Jaws. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. How much is it? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Steve Heflin s.hef...@comcast.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Remember the free version might not work with Jaws, but the pro version works very well and is worth the money. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I had to use system restore since i noticed there was a restore point created and i got rid of it. Legend has it that on Monday 1/25/2010 08:01 PM, David Ferrin said: I just spent over a half an hour ripping it out of my registry and using win patrol to kill it on boot up without success. This sucker isn't going quietly but it is going to go one way or another. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. No sometimes it will not go quietly or without sighted assistance. Not sure why either some machines it can be uninstalled fairly easily and others not. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I haven't tried as of yet but that is my understanding as well that it won't go quietly. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I've managed to uninstall it here on several machines as well. But did have a few that fought to the very end lol. Rick - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. I will have to disagree. I have successfully un-installed Avast on several machines without the removal tool. Generally speaking, the trick to un-installing any program, is to make sure the program is not running before attempting the un-install. The ease of doing this may not be apparent if the software is running as a service. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Avast Free 5.0 not accessible with Jaws. Folks, the only way to successfully uninstall avast is by using their removal tool. You will be told there was an error when uninstalling avast when You attempt to do so threw the control panel. And it will still be listed in Your list of programs as well as in the system tray. Also if You attempt to delete the alwil Software folder it will tell You that access was denied. You will have no choice but to use
