Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
David, I too use vipre and really like it. When you first install it it is a little annoying. The firewall requests access for your printer and many programs. You only have to click on accept and remember. It caught quite a few things for me. -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Hi David, I am using Vipre Internet Security 2015 which has its own built in firewall. It does a great job, and I seldom have to create a web site exception for the firewall to let some content that the program detects as harmful come through. At the same time, it never lets anything that is truly bad through the firewall and onto my computer. I have used Vipre for years, and have made it through the times when it was less than accessible, but Threat Track Security has really done a good job making it accessable again. Waiting for the 2016 version to be released later this year. Mike Boyd mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
Hi David, I am using Vipre Internet Security 2015 which has its own built in firewall. It does a great job, and I seldom have to create a web site exception for the firewall to let some content that the program detects as harmful come through. At the same time, it never lets anything that is truly bad through the firewall and onto my computer. I have used Vipre for years, and have made it through the times when it was less than accessible, but Threat Track Security has really done a good job making it accessable again. Waiting for the 2016 version to be released later this year. Mike Boyd mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
It sets itself up as part of the anti-virus package. There are settings, I never change them unless I am having trouble between mcafee and my IP network, and then I just reset it to default settings. All I know about it... -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls How accessible is it? Is this one of those set it and forget it or how does it work? What was the price. I'm not above paying for a good bit of software. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I use my mcafee total protection firewall. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] firewalls
I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
I use my mcafee total protection firewall. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
Just Windows firewall. This said, I don't go adventuring much beyond the sites I use in my work and recreational reading. On 9/1/2015 12:32 PM, David Ferrin wrote: I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
Same here and I've never had an issue Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pursley Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Just Windows firewall. This said, I don't go adventuring much beyond the sites I use in my work and recreational reading. On 9/1/2015 12:32 PM, David Ferrin wrote: > I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable > level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their > firewall needs. > > I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many > of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so > much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been > tried without success. > > David Ferrin > A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have > evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
How accessible is it? Is this one of those set it and forget it or how does it work? What was the price. I'm not above paying for a good bit of software. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I use my mcafee total protection firewall. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I have been using private firewall for a few years with an acceptable level of success. I am wondering what other people are using for their firewall needs. I know there are a wide variety of offerings out there although many of which are not usable with a screen reader. The bad thing is that so much time has passed my memory fails me as to what has already been tried without success. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
sigate was bought ou by symantic at least a year agot so it no longer exists. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Sygate and it's up on the programs page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Is there a freeware jaws friendly firewall? Due to some trace software I can't install the CA internet suite to test the firewall. Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
I use it and have had no problems, when I went ADSL recently it was good to see the firewall pop up and do it's stuff. Lisa Hayes skype name, lisa12257 join my chat list subscribe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I am aware of that fact, but never the less the final free version of sygate personal firewall is up on the programs page and is still being used by a large number of people. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Greenlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls sigate was bought ou by symantic at least a year agot so it no longer exists. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Sygate and it's up on the programs page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Is there a freeware jaws friendly firewall? Due to some trace software I can't install the CA internet suite to test the firewall. Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 18/02/2008 6:49 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
It is still usable with widnows vista? Cesar - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls I am aware of that fact, but never the less the final free version of sygate personal firewall is up on the programs page and is still being used by a large number of people. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Greenlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls sigate was bought ou by symantic at least a year agot so it no longer exists. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Sygate and it's up on the programs page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Is there a freeware jaws friendly firewall? Due to some trace software I can't install the CA internet suite to test the firewall. Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls
Thanks, I just downloaded it again. I removed it last week hoping to use the CA version included in the package. There is no way to install it. It finds something from a previous version of sygate, kerio orzonealarm. I removed every place in the registry that referred to one of these programs and it still will not install. I just re-installed the jaws friendly sygate now going through the process of saying yes to many programs. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Sygate and it's up on the programs page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] firewalls Is there a freeware jaws friendly firewall? Due to some trace software I can't install the CA internet suite to test the firewall. Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
Well Rich, the installer package should be something like setup.exe or install.exe. If you look for that, then these will more likely to be programmes that will install what you wish to install. Also, if a package uses the Windows Installer technology, files ending in .msi are definitely installers. However, some of these downloadable software have weird file names, so it's not obvious these days which one's an installer or not. If you're not sure, I would go back to the Mcafe website and download it again. Hope that helps. - Original Message - From: rcham27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? I do not know what or where an installer is. Please send me step by step instructions on how to un install then re install MacAfee. Thank you. Rich - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? Rich, you should have the original installers on your computer. Running these, one for Mcafe and one for Spybot, should help. Be aware though, there is a video issue when you attempt to install Spybot with JAWS running; the Windows dong sound is heard, but no error message is displayed, and the programme terminates. Use Narrator or some other screen reader instead until Spybot is fully installed then restart JAWS. Hope that helps - Original Message - From: Rich Hamel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? How would I re install MacAfee if my version was downloaded and I do not have a disc? Where or how could I do the same with Spybot? Is it in the add remove programs? Thank you. Rich - Original Message - From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? Rich: You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the same time. Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go with something else such as macafee. Now since you are still having these issues after turning off windows fire wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it again and see what happens. Hope this helps. Reese - Original Message - I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address
[JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. I also have been getting a lot of messages from Spybot that ask if I want to allow or deny certain files that have a MacAfee title to it. I usually click allow. I recently updated the new beta version of Spybot. I went back to un check theWindows firewall but this did not change the MacAfee or Spybot messages. My questions are. Do I need the Windows firewall checked? and why or why not. Also, if I want to un install Spybot how should I do it? It seems to be interfering more often. Thank you. Rich Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
Hi You may need to configure the fire wall to work with the programs you are using. A fire wall keeps programs from accessing the web with out your permission. So, one may want to authorize the windows fire wall to allow the programs that need to access the web to get updates. Other wise the fire wall thinks the program is trying to give your personal information to someone on the internet. God bless, Mark God loves you! My ham radio lists. http://lists.topica.com/lists/funhamradio. http://groups.google.com/group/funhamradio-list My personal website http://funhamradio.bloki.com MSS and MSP scripting list http://groups.google.com:80/group/msscripting?hl=en - Original Message - From: Rich Hamel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. I also have been getting a lot of messages from Spybot that ask if I want to allow or deny certain files that have a MacAfee title to it. I usually click allow. I recently updated the new beta version of Spybot. I went back to un check theWindows firewall but this did not change the MacAfee or Spybot messages. My questions are. Do I need the Windows firewall checked? and why or why not. Also, if I want to un install Spybot how should I do it? It seems to be interfering more often. Thank you. Rich Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
Rich: You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the same time. Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go with something else such as macafee. Now since you are still having these issues after turning off windows fire wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it again and see what happens. Hope this helps. Reese - Original Message - I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
Once Spybot ended up eating a file that informed my computer that I was running my own firewall, so I always get that message that no firewall is turned on. Knowing that, I leave the Windows firewall off but make sure my 3rd party firewall is active. Running two firewalls at the same time is problematic at best so I understand. But yeah, Spybot may be the culprit in your instance as well. Maybe. Chris Feist - The one and only! -Original Message- On Behalf Of Reese Sent: Friday, August 03, Rich: You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the same time. Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go with something else such as macafee. Now since you are still having these issues after turning off windows fire wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it again and see what happens. Hope this helps. Reese Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
See that is where the windows firewall faults. It only works on things coming in and anything on the box that wants out has free well. At 01:55 PM 8/3/2007, you wrote: Hi You may need to configure the fire wall to work with the programs you are using. A fire wall keeps programs from accessing the web with out your permission. So, one may want to authorize the windows fire wall to allow the programs that need to access the web to get updates. Other wise the fire wall thinks the program is trying to give your personal information to someone on the internet. God bless, Mark God loves you! My ham radio lists. http://lists.topica.com/lists/funhamradio. http://groups.google.com/group/funhamradio-list My personal website http://funhamradio.bloki.com MSS and MSP scripting list http://groups.google.com:80/group/msscripting?hl=en - Original Message - From: Rich Hamel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. I also have been getting a lot of messages from Spybot that ask if I want to allow or deny certain files that have a MacAfee title to it. I usually click allow. I recently updated the new beta version of Spybot. I went back to un check theWindows firewall but this did not change the MacAfee or Spybot messages. My questions are. Do I need the Windows firewall checked? and why or why not. Also, if I want to un install Spybot how should I do it? It seems to be interfering more often. Thank you. Rich Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
How would I re install MacAfee if my version was downloaded and I do not have a disc? Where or how could I do the same with Spybot? Is it in the add remove programs? Thank you. Rich - Original Message - From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? Rich: You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the same time. Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go with something else such as macafee. Now since you are still having these issues after turning off windows fire wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it again and see what happens. Hope this helps. Reese - Original Message - I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
Rich, you should have the original installers on your computer. Running these, one for Mcafe and one for Spybot, should help. Be aware though, there is a video issue when you attempt to install Spybot with JAWS running; the Windows dong sound is heard, but no error message is displayed, and the programme terminates. Use Narrator or some other screen reader instead until Spybot is fully installed then restart JAWS. Hope that helps - Original Message - From: Rich Hamel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? How would I re install MacAfee if my version was downloaded and I do not have a disc? Where or how could I do the same with Spybot? Is it in the add remove programs? Thank you. Rich - Original Message - From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? Rich: You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the same time. Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go with something else such as macafee. Now since you are still having these issues after turning off windows fire wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it again and see what happens. Hope this helps. Reese - Original Message - I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
I do not know what or where an installer is. Please send me step by step instructions on how to un install then re install MacAfee. Thank you. Rich - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? Rich, you should have the original installers on your computer. Running these, one for Mcafe and one for Spybot, should help. Be aware though, there is a video issue when you attempt to install Spybot with JAWS running; the Windows dong sound is heard, but no error message is displayed, and the programme terminates. Use Narrator or some other screen reader instead until Spybot is fully installed then restart JAWS. Hope that helps - Original Message - From: Rich Hamel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? How would I re install MacAfee if my version was downloaded and I do not have a disc? Where or how could I do the same with Spybot? Is it in the add remove programs? Thank you. Rich - Original Message - From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? Rich: You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the same time. Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go with something else such as macafee. Now since you are still having these issues after turning off windows fire wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it again and see what happens. Hope this helps. Reese - Original Message - I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. . After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my control panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. I clicked it on. Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with the mouse. For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from MacAfee that it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls?
Why not go to the website where you got macaffee and download the installer and run it? :I do not know what or where an installer is. : Please send me step by step instructions on how to un install then re : install MacAfee. : : Thank you. : : Rich : - Original Message - : From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:09 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? : : : Rich, you should have the original installers on your computer. : Running these, one for Mcafe and one for Spybot, should help. Be : aware though, there : is a video issue when you attempt to install Spybot with JAWS : running; the Windows dong sound is heard, but no error message is : displayed, and the programme terminates. Use Narrator or some other : screen reader instead until : Spybot is fully installed then restart JAWS. Hope that helps : - Original Message - : From: Rich Hamel [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:18 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? : : : How would I re install MacAfee if my version was downloaded and I : do not have a disc? : Where or how could I do the same with Spybot? Is it in the add : remove programs? : : Thank you. : : Rich : - Original Message - : From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:04 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firewalls? : : : Rich: : : You can not run multiple fire wall programs under windows at the : same : time. : Because the windows fire wall works only one way, its best you go : with something else such as macafee. : : Now since you are still having these issues after turning off : windows fire : wall, it might be best if youninstall macafee and reinstall it : again and : see : what happens. Hope this helps. : : Reese : : - Original Message - I have JAWS 6.0 and XP I am on DSL. : . : After reading one of the messages, on this list, I looked in my : control : panel and found that my Windows firewallwas off. : I clicked it on. : Since then, I have had a terrible time with my MacAfee and Spybot. : My MacAfee says that I am not protected and I can not click on : the fix symbol. Even my sighted wife says it doesn't work with : the mouse. : For some reason, prior to this, I was getting a message from : MacAfee that : it was updating and downloading a anti spam file. : : : Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: : http://www.jaws-users.com : Address for the list archives: : http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To post to this group, send email to : jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the : subject : or body of a blank message to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Use the following form in order to contact the management team : http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php : If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email : to the : following address: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: : http://www.jaws-users.com : Address for the list archives: : http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To post to this group, send email to : jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the : subject or body of a blank message to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Use the following form in order to contact the management team : http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php : If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to : the following address: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: : http://www.jaws-users.com : Address for the list archives: : http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To post to this group, send email to : jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the : subject or body of a blank message to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Use the following form in order to contact the management team : http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php : If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to : the following address: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: : http://www.jaws-users.com : Address for the list archives: : http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To post to this group, send email to : jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the : subject or body of a blank message to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Use the following form in order to contact the management team : http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php : If you wish to join the Blind