Re: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10

[Marek Durila]

Hi,
If installed JF 17 not necessary remove this is only when JF 16 is
installed.




   
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"JAWS-Users-List" <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> wrote on
29.04.2016 20:01:46:

> From: "john_Justice" <john_just...@verizon.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Date: 29.04.2016 20:02
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10
> Sent by: "JAWS-Users-List" <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com>
>
> I got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my
> desktop.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1.   Am I correct that I need to completely DELETE Jaws v17 and all
its
> shared components first
> Your best course of action might be to go onto the Freedom Scientific web
> site and download the instructions along with a special file which will
> assist you in making the transition.?
>
>
>
>
>
> 2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through
>
> the installation process?
> Yes, at least for the most part.  Narrator in later versions after
Windows
> 8.1, is an excellent voice over tool.  However, initial stages of the
> conversion to Windows 10 will not talk.  It might be advisable to request
> direct assistance from the Microsoft Disability Support Desk.
>
> 800-936-5900
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when
>
> narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users
>
> might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think
>
> it is called. Is this still true?
>
> Yes.  As of this time, Microsoft Edge does not talk using Jaws.  That is
an
> ongoing issue which is being worked on by both Freedom and Microsoft.  I
> believe that a solution will be found shortly.  In the meantime,
switching
> to Microsoft Internet explorer is the correct alternative.
>
>
>
>
>
> 4. Is there anything else I should consider when upgrading that I have
>
> not mentioned?
>
> I recommend that you join the Windows 10 and Jaws e-mail list, at least
> temporarily.  Jim has quite a few instructional files which you will find
> most useful.  He stores them on One Drive and will provide direct access
on
> request.  You will find the direct submission link in another message on
> this list.
>
> Good luck, Sir.  I believe that you will find Windows 10 an excellent
> choice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
>
> PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10

[Rick Justice]

Hi Leonard,
No problem, have done it myself, just didn't want others to be confused. 
smile

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "leonard morris" <lmorris1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10


Thanks for catching my error regarding the file name which as you
pointed out is Windows.iso. Sorry about that.


On 4/30/2016 4:19 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
> Hi John,
> I noticed an error here, that was the same with the original post
> The file that was mentioned, "IOS", , is incorrect!
> The correct file extension is, "ISO".
> I wouldn't have mentioned it, but  it could lead to some confusion
> since IOS ,refers to the Apple operating system, and .iso is a file
> extension.
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "john_Justice" <john_just...@verizon.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:01 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10
>
>
> I got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my
> desktop.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1.   Am I correct that I need to completely DELETE Jaws v17 and all 
> its
> shared components first
> Your best course of action might be to go onto the Freedom Scientific web
> site and download the instructions along with a special file which will
> assist you in making the transition.?
>
>
>
>
>
> 2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through
>
> the installation process?
> Yes, at least for the most part.  Narrator in later versions after Windows
> 8.1, is an excellent voice over tool.  However, initial stages of the
> conversion to Windows 10 will not talk.  It might be advisable to request
> direct assistance from the Microsoft Disability Support Desk.
>
> 800-936-5900
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when
>
> narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users
>
> might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think
>
> it is called. Is this still true?
>
> Yes.  As of this time, Microsoft Edge does not talk using Jaws.  That is 
> an
> ongoing issue which is being worked on by both Freedom and Microsoft.  I
> believe that a solution will be found shortly.  In the meantime, switching
> to Microsoft Internet explorer is the correct alternative.
>
>
>
>
>
> 4. Is there anything else I should consider when upgrading that I have
>
> not mentioned?
>
> I recommend that you join the Windows 10 and Jaws e-mail list, at least
> temporarily.  Jim has quite a few instructional files which you will find
> most useful.  He stores them on One Drive and will provide direct access 
> on
> request.  You will find the direct submission link in another message on
> this list.
>
> Good luck, Sir.  I believe that you will find Windows 10 an excellent
> choice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
>
>
>
> JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
>
> PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10

[leonard morris]

Thanks for catching my error regarding the file name which as you 
pointed out is Windows.iso. Sorry about that.



On 4/30/2016 4:19 AM, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi John,
I noticed an error here, that was the same with the original post
The file that was mentioned, "IOS", , is incorrect!
The correct file extension is, "ISO".
I wouldn't have mentioned it, but  it could lead to some confusion
since IOS ,refers to the Apple operating system, and .iso is a file
extension.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: "john_Justice" <john_just...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10


I got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my
desktop.





1.   Am I correct that I need to completely DELETE Jaws v17 and all its
shared components first
Your best course of action might be to go onto the Freedom Scientific web
site and download the instructions along with a special file which will
assist you in making the transition.?





2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through

the installation process?
Yes, at least for the most part.  Narrator in later versions after Windows
8.1, is an excellent voice over tool.  However, initial stages of the
conversion to Windows 10 will not talk.  It might be advisable to request
direct assistance from the Microsoft Disability Support Desk.

800-936-5900





3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when

narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users

might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think

it is called. Is this still true?

Yes.  As of this time, Microsoft Edge does not talk using Jaws.  That is an
ongoing issue which is being worked on by both Freedom and Microsoft.  I
believe that a solution will be found shortly.  In the meantime, switching
to Microsoft Internet explorer is the correct alternative.





4. Is there anything else I should consider when upgrading that I have

not mentioned?

I recommend that you join the Windows 10 and Jaws e-mail list, at least
temporarily.  Jim has quite a few instructional files which you will find
most useful.  He stores them on One Drive and will provide direct access on
request.  You will find the direct submission link in another message on
this list.

Good luck, Sir.  I believe that you will find Windows 10 an excellent
choice.







For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:

http://www.jaws-users.com/help/





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net





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Re: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10

[Rick Justice]

Hi John,
I noticed an error here, that was the same with the original post
The file that was mentioned, "IOS", , is incorrect!
The correct file extension is, "ISO".
I wouldn't have mentioned it, but  it could lead to some confusion
since IOS ,refers to the Apple operating system, and .iso is a file 
extension.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "john_Justice" <john_just...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10


I got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my
desktop.





1.   Am I correct that I need to completely DELETE Jaws v17 and all its
shared components first
Your best course of action might be to go onto the Freedom Scientific web
site and download the instructions along with a special file which will
assist you in making the transition.?





2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through

the installation process?
Yes, at least for the most part.  Narrator in later versions after Windows
8.1, is an excellent voice over tool.  However, initial stages of the
conversion to Windows 10 will not talk.  It might be advisable to request
direct assistance from the Microsoft Disability Support Desk.

800-936-5900





3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when

narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users

might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think

it is called. Is this still true?

Yes.  As of this time, Microsoft Edge does not talk using Jaws.  That is an
ongoing issue which is being worked on by both Freedom and Microsoft.  I
believe that a solution will be found shortly.  In the meantime, switching
to Microsoft Internet explorer is the correct alternative.





4. Is there anything else I should consider when upgrading that I have

not mentioned?

I recommend that you join the Windows 10 and Jaws e-mail list, at least
temporarily.  Jim has quite a few instructional files which you will find
most useful.  He stores them on One Drive and will provide direct access on
request.  You will find the direct submission link in another message on
this list.

Good luck, Sir.  I believe that you will find Windows 10 an excellent
choice.







For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:

http://www.jaws-users.com/help/





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net





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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

[Jim]

Yes, WLM 2012 works great in W-10 with Jaws.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: john_Justice

Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

Nice, Ed.
You put everything into one succinct package.  Kevin mentioned one
additional issue.
The Windows 10 e-mail client was written using the same language as Edge.
It will not work well with jaws.  You can, however, use an already existing
e-mail client in lieu of the one built into Windows 10.
Well done, Ed.  I believe that your message alone will give anyone the tools
they need to complete this job.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

Here is the instructions from the Windows 10 Jaws group run by Jim. If you
want to join this group and download all the audio files and text files that
will help you setup W10 and customize it with Jaws. Click on this link to
join.
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now, Microsoft will determine if you
have a 64 or 32 bit system, they are both built into the tool.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Not sure if you have to reserve w-10 now?
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool on your w-7 computer, any time you restart
your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this
message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user's account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows
key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or
17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

[john_Justice]

Nice, Ed.
You put everything into one succinct package.  Kevin mentioned one
additional issue.
The Windows 10 e-mail client was written using the same language as Edge.
It will not work well with jaws.  You can, however, use an already existing
e-mail client in lieu of the one built into Windows 10.  
Well done, Ed.  I believe that your message alone will give anyone the tools
they need to complete this job.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

Here is the instructions from the Windows 10 Jaws group run by Jim. If you
want to join this group and download all the audio files and text files that
will help you setup W10 and customize it with Jaws. Click on this link to
join.
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now, Microsoft will determine if you
have a 64 or 32 bit system, they are both built into the tool.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Not sure if you have to reserve w-10 now?
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool on your w-7 computer, any time you restart
your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this
message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user's account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows
key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or
17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time.
In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times.
It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to
w-10.
There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7
computer to upgrade to w-10.
After completing your upgrade to w-10, read my text file, called, Windows 10

[JAWS-Users] UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 10

[john_Justice]

I got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my
desktop.

 

 

1.   Am I correct that I need to completely DELETE Jaws v17 and all its
shared components first
Your best course of action might be to go onto the Freedom Scientific web
site and download the instructions along with a special file which will
assist you in making the transition.?

 

 

2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through 

the installation process?
Yes, at least for the most part.  Narrator in later versions after Windows
8.1, is an excellent voice over tool.  However, initial stages of the
conversion to Windows 10 will not talk.  It might be advisable to request
direct assistance from the Microsoft Disability Support Desk.

800-936-5900

 

 

3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when 

narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users 

might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think 

it is called. Is this still true?

Yes.  As of this time, Microsoft Edge does not talk using Jaws.  That is an
ongoing issue which is being worked on by both Freedom and Microsoft.  I
believe that a solution will be found shortly.  In the meantime, switching
to Microsoft Internet explorer is the correct alternative.

 

 

4. Is there anything else I should consider when upgrading that I have 

not mentioned?

I recommend that you join the Windows 10 and Jaws e-mail list, at least
temporarily.  Jim has quite a few instructional files which you will find
most useful.  He stores them on One Drive and will provide direct access on
request.  You will find the direct submission link in another message on
this list.

Good luck, Sir.  I believe that you will find Windows 10 an excellent
choice.

 

 

 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:

http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

[Kevin]

everthing is true, one thing to add, the built in win 10 mail app is not 
accessible.  if you use a desktop email app you want to continue to use it!


-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:41 PM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

I must confess I have not been paying a lot of attention regarding going
from Windows 7 to 10. However, I've decided I would bite the bullet. I
got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my
desktop.


1. Am I correct that I need to completely Jaws v17 and all its shared
components first?


2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through
the installation process?


3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when
narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users
might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think
it is called. Is this still true?


4. Is there anything else Ishould consider when upgrading that I have
not mentioned?


Thanks much.


"Every country has an idenity, history, customs,  and culture. It's a unique 
landscape in determining how its people live, work and play."


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

[Pinky]

Here is the instructions from the Windows 10 Jaws group run by Jim. If you
want to join this group and download all the audio files and text files that
will help you setup W10 and customize it with Jaws. Click on this link to
join.
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now, Microsoft will determine if you
have a 64 or 32 bit system, they are both built into the tool.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Not sure if you have to reserve w-10 now?
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool on your w-7 computer, any time you restart
your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this
message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user's account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows
key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or
17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time.
In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times.
It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to
w-10.
There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7
computer to upgrade to w-10.
After completing your upgrade to w-10, read my text file, called, Windows 10
and Jaws, complete guide TXT.
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 8:41 PM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

I must confess I have not been paying a lot of attention regarding going 
from Windows 7 to 10. However, I've decided I would bite the bullet. I 
got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my 
desktop.


1. Am I correct that I need to completely Jaws v17 and all its shared 
components first?


2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through 
the installation process?


3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows

[JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

[leonard morris]

I must confess I have not been paying a lot of attention regarding going 
from Windows 7 to 10. However, I've decided I would bite the bullet. I 
got the Windows.ios file from the Microsoft website and placed it on my 
desktop.



1. Am I correct that I need to completely Jaws v17 and all its shared 
components first?



2. If I start narrator in Windows seven will Narrator talk me through 
the installation process?



3. When my sighted friend was showing me his windows 10 computer when 
narrator started running I heard something about screen reader users 
might want to switch to Internet Explorer instead of using Edge I think 
it is called. Is this still true?



4. Is there anything else Ishould consider when upgrading that I have 
not mentioned?



Thanks much.

 
"Every country has an idenity, history, customs,  and culture. It's a unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play."


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[JAWS-Users] upgrading to windows 10

[Kevin]

when you upgrade and you get to the part 'use a microsoft account to login' 
I think you just tab past that or make sure you don't check the check box

I really don't remember its been a while
read the on screen instructions with narrator 'win key+enter' carefully.
but windows 10 is the best OS MS came out with I can only say it took 
microsoft long enough!



-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Blocked out of Windows 10 computer; password not 
recognized


Thanks for the reply.  I wasn't sure.  I think I will try win 10 soon then.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Blocked out of Windows 10 computer; password not 
recognized


I have been using windows 10 for alittle over 4 months and have never had to 
use a microsoft account to login.
the only thing that I've found that requires a microsoft account is 
microsoft one drive!


-Original Message-
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Blocked out of Windows 10 computer; password not 
recognized


I have read some about win 10.  In order to use win 10 I am to assume that 
you need to open a Microsoft account?  I am hoping not.  I hate giving my 
life story to all these people that don't need it.  I went online to order a 
pizza the other week they wanted my age and gender and I don't recall what 
else.  I didn't have pizza after all.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Boyd

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Blocked out of Windows 10 computer; password not 
recognized


I am afraid that this one is going to take the help of a computer technician 
who can use a software to break the password and reset it for you. There are 
some software out there that are free, but I have never found one that would 
actually do the job.

n

Mike
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 16, 2015, at 6:34 AM, Neil Towery  wrote:

Hello Gang:

I had never used a password on the computer. However, I have two or three MS 
accounts. I tried all three, even a fourth password from my wife's MS 
account. None of these worked.


She looked at the computer, and saw the hint for the password. She tried 
typing in the password. No luck.


She saw a re-set option that included inserting a thumb drive. Tried all we 
know there. Saw some information saying we needed to have created a 
"recovery password disk." Apparently, even before all this started.


I had been using Windows 10 for almost precisely one week. I had tried the 
instructions to verify the MS account, but could never get to the point to 
have a code sent to me.


Help! Jim, David, Rick, or anyone else.

Is there a Microsoft phone number for password issues? Is this something the 
Accessibility Desk could solve?


I liked Windows 10 a lot, until this.

Thanks a bunch. Neil



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[jim]

Yes, you can do it that way.
Just make sure you have the latest Jaws 17 already downloaded to your 
download folder.

Then when your sited friend returns your computer.
Turn on narrator to sign and go to your download folder and press enter on 
your Jaws installation file.

You should be just fine.
Good luck.
Also, you might want to read my tutorial, called, Customizing w-10 with 
Jaws.






Consider the snow flakes

Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all.
Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small
Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, 
created for all.
Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him 
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever 
you go.

Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die.

Author: Jim Flusche

GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title...
-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; 
Says sighted assistance necessary


First let me say I really appreciate this information. Secondly, if I
choose to let my sighted tech friend install windows 10 based on the
information provided here, should I just uninstall v17 first keeping the
user settings and just reinstall jaws v17 when the laptop is returned to
me?
On 11/11/2015 9:40 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi,
Here are all the directions for up grading to Windows 10.

Here you go, How to upgrade to Windows 10 with Jaws.
Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you
will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this
message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user’s account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows
key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 
or

17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Lynn White]

I have a question.

I updated to Windows 10 and am currently using Jaws 16 and will be 
installing 17.  But, I won't do that until this problem is solved.


I was one of those who gost a cumulative update from Microsoft that 
didn't go through properly.


Every day just four in the afternoon, my PC restarts because Windows is 
still trying to get the update.  I understand that this won't be fixed 
until Microsoft comes up with a fix for this.  Is there a way to push 
the time to say, 2 in the morning?


I need to do something so that my programs that run on my station don't 
get interrupted.  Any help is definitely welcomed and appreciated.


On 11/10/2015 6:27 PM, Johna Lynn Nordin wrote:

When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's
validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me
when it's ready.  How do I know when It's ready?  How will I be notified?
Via email and if so which email address will it send it to?
Thanks
Johna


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;
Says sighted assistance necessary

Hi all,
I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS
16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS
17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't
have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and
JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS
and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things
work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Mike
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft
Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary

It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to
make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.

Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says
sighted assistance necessary

Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[jim]

Hi Lynn,
Try the built-in troubleshooters in w-10, they work great.
1. Press the windows key.
2. Type in, troubleshooting, press enter on, troubleshooting, control panel.
3. Tab one time to, show all link, press enter.
4. Tab one time to, list view.
5. highlight, Background intelligence transfer service, press enter.
6. Tab to the next button, press enter.
7. Follow any prompts, this may fix the problem of the windows updates.
If this does not fix the problem.
Go to the bottom of the list to, Windows update, resolve problems that 
prevent you from updating windows.

Press enter.
Tab to the next button, press enter.
Follow the prompts.
One of these two built-in troubleshooters should fix the problem.
W-10, has an expanded list of troubleshooters, they work great...
I hope this helps...



Consider the snow flakes

Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all.
Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small
Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, 
created for all.
Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him 
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever 
you go.

Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die.

Author: Jim Flusche

GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title...
-Original Message- 
From: Lynn White

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; 
Says sighted assistance necessary


I have a question.

I updated to Windows 10 and am currently using Jaws 16 and will be
installing 17.  But, I won't do that until this problem is solved.

I was one of those who gost a cumulative update from Microsoft that
didn't go through properly.

Every day just four in the afternoon, my PC restarts because Windows is
still trying to get the update.  I understand that this won't be fixed
until Microsoft comes up with a fix for this.  Is there a way to push
the time to say, 2 in the morning?

I need to do something so that my programs that run on my station don't
get interrupted.  Any help is definitely welcomed and appreciated.

On 11/10/2015 6:27 PM, Johna Lynn Nordin wrote:

When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's
validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me
when it's ready.  How do I know when It's ready?  How will I be notified?
Via email and if so which email address will it send it to?
Thanks
Johna


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft 
Accessibility;

Says sighted assistance necessary

Hi all,
I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS
16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive 
JAWS
17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience 
couldn't

have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and
JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS
and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things
work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Mike
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft
Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary

It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, 
to

make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.

Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft 
Accessibility;Says

sighted assistance necessary

Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so 
many

Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, 
there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted 
assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can 
turn

on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[leonard morris]

First let me say I really appreciate this information. Secondly, if I 
choose to let my sighted tech friend install windows 10 based on the 
information provided here, should I just uninstall v17 first keeping the 
user settings and just reinstall jaws v17 when the laptop is returned to 
me?

On 11/11/2015 9:40 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi,
Here are all the directions for up grading to Windows 10.

Here you go, How to upgrade to Windows 10 with Jaws.
Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade 


Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit 
version

depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you
will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for 
this

message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on 
the

desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user’s account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, 
Windows

key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 
16 or

17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time.
In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times.
It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to
w-10.
There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7
computer to upgrade to w-10.
After completing your upgrade to w-10, see my text file, on 
customizing w-10

with Jaws.
Here is a drop box link with 33 tutorials for using win 10 Just enter 
on the link, go almost to the bottom of the page that comes up, and 
enter on the download link. You will have this folder with win 10 
tutorials in it that will really get you started after you download 
this folder

. Take care.
Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0g6lsnu4map1lm/AADalvpAHamNco1OwroiJ7AUa?dl=0

-Original Message- From: Johna Lynn Nordin
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft 
Accessibility;Says sighted

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Johna Lynn Nordin]

When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's
validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me
when it's ready.  How do I know when It's ready?  How will I be notified?
Via email and if so which email address will it send it to?
Thanks
Johna


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;
Says sighted assistance necessary

Hi all,
I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS
16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS
17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't
have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and
JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS
and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things
work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Mike
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft
Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary

It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to
make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.

Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says
sighted assistance necessary

Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[David Moore]

Hi,
Here are all the directions for up grading to Windows 10.

Here you go, How to upgrade to Windows 10 with Jaws.
Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you
will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this
message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user’s account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows
key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or
17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time.
In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times.
It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to
w-10.
There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7
computer to upgrade to w-10.
After completing your upgrade to w-10, see my text file, on customizing w-10
with Jaws.
Here is a drop box link with 33 tutorials for using win 10 Just enter on the 
link, go almost to the bottom of the page that comes up, and enter on the 
download link. You will have this folder with win 10 tutorials in it that 
will really get you started after you download this folder

. Take care.
Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0g6lsnu4map1lm/AADalvpAHamNco1OwroiJ7AUa?dl=0

-Original Message- 
From: Johna Lynn Nordin

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft 
Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary


When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's
validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me
when it's ready.  How do I know when It's ready?  How will I be notified?
Via email and if so which email address will it send it to?
Thanks
Johna


-Original Message-
From

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Rose Combs]

They already stated that the disks will be delayed slightly, they always
send one, at least they have every year for the past 17 years.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 10:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;
Says sighted assistance necessary

It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to
make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.

Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says 
sighted assistance necessary

Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS 
16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 
17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't 
have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and 
JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS 
and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things 
work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care.



-Original Message- 
From: Mike

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft 
Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary


It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to
make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.

Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says
sighted assistance necessary

Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Neil Towery]

Hello Gang: 

 I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today. 

 However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance." 

 Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? 

 Two final questions: 

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?  

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. 

 Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Kevin]

yes on the FS question
not sure on the win 10, but you can count on Jim to give you correct info. 
He knows what he's talking about.  he may drink too much coffee but he is a 
knowledgable guy!


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says 
sighted assistance necessary


Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Mario]

as I read somewhere, you can create a bootable DVD or USB but only after 
upgrading first, unless you purchase a retail or OEM copy of windows 10. 
I would like to know how this would be done so I have notes on the steps 
to do this once I'm ready.


I hope FS will still send out DVDs for JAWS 17, unless someone can tell 
us different.


On 11/8/2015 12:01 PM, Neil Towery  wrote:

Hello Gang:

  I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

  However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

  Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

  Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

  Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[jim]

If you wait until the windows 10 install is totally done, you should be OK.
Pressing Windows key+Enter, will turn narrator on, narrator is much smoother 
in w-10.

You should be able to tab across and set up your computer.
Good luck...



Consider the snow flakes

Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all.
Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small
Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, 
created for all.
Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him 
your soul.
Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever 
you go.

Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die.

Author: Jim Flusche

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-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says 
sighted assistance necessary


Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[David Moore]

Hi all,
That tech person on the phone was wrong. I up graded to Windows 10 just like 
Jim did without any sighted assistance at all. Narrator indeed worked at the 
end after win 10 had downloaded and installed. When JAWS quit working, 
Narrator worked the rest of the time. Take care and go win 10. If you follow 
everything Jim said to do like I did, you will have no trouble at all. Take 
care.



-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; 
Says sighted assistance necessary


as I read somewhere, you can create a bootable DVD or USB but only after
upgrading first, unless you purchase a retail or OEM copy of windows 10.
I would like to know how this would be done so I have notes on the steps
to do this once I'm ready.

I hope FS will still send out DVDs for JAWS 17, unless someone can tell
us different.

On 11/8/2015 12:01 PM, Neil Towery  wrote:

Hello Gang:

  I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, 
through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so 
many

Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

  However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he 
told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, 
there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted 
assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can 
turn

on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

  Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

  Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

  Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Mike]

Mario,

Download and use a free utility called Rufus. It works faster and better 
than the Microsoft Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool. This program requires no 
installation onto your computer, and you can creat a bootable flash drive or 
disk with it. You can do an internet search for the download page.


Mike


-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; 
Says sighted assistance necessary


as I read somewhere, you can create a bootable DVD or USB but only after
upgrading first, unless you purchase a retail or OEM copy of windows 10.
I would like to know how this would be done so I have notes on the steps
to do this once I'm ready.

I hope FS will still send out DVDs for JAWS 17, unless someone can tell
us different.

On 11/8/2015 12:01 PM, Neil Towery  wrote:

Hello Gang:

  I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, 
through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so 
many

Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

  However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he 
told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, 
there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted 
assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can 
turn

on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

  Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

  Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

  Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary

[Mike]

It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and 
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me 
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to 
make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk 
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am 
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.


Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says 
sighted assistance necessary


Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told
me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there
will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance
will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

Just changing the subject line to reflect the new route this thread has 
taken.


I have just found out that one cannot simply do a re-format of the hard 
drive in order to install Windows 10, or to do a clean installation of 
Windows 10 and that Windows 10 must be installed as an upgrade.  This is 
saddening, but alas, one can't really look a gift horse in the mouth.


Some people have messaged me off-list and given me a few tips, such as 
uninstalling programs that I feel may interfere with the installation, and 
I'm still going to uninstall that really old sound card to see if that's the 
problem too, even though the Windows 10 upgrade assessment states that the 
sound card is not going to be a problem.


In any case, if you want to read what I read about upgrading to Windows 10, 
please see the following link:


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-10/why-activate-windows-10

I'll let you all know what happens.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

unattended windows 7 installation
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-unattended-windows-7-installation-setup/



-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 3:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I
might change my mind.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade.  if you got the get windows
10 notification just click it and reserve a copy.  then just use the win 10
media creation tool to upgrade your computer.

-Original Message-
From: Fred Adams
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present.  I am having
problems with W7 installing windows updates.  A Microsoft technician went
through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to
get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is
to upgrade to W8.1 or W10.  The computer is to old for W10 but I think it
could handle W8.1.  I would like to know if there is a big learning curve
between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is
my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and
cheapest way out.  This is an old computer but still works pretty well.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[Bissett, Tom]

I love it.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

The first requirement to running any mailing list is a thick skin or a near 
close at hand .liquor store.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions for 
others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless and dumb 
stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of my 
computers.

-Original Message-
From: jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version 
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a 
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the 
latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on 
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download 
speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating 
your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check 
the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the 
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all 
your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the needed 
drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

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Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[jim]

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version 
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a 
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the 
latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on 
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download 
speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating 
your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check 
the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the 
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all 
your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the needed 
drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[David Ferrin]

The first requirement to running any mailing list is a thick skin or a near
close at hand .liquor store.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message-
From: jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[jim]

Fresh out of strawberry dackaries.
I guess I will try some more coffee...ahaahahah
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

The first requirement to running any mailing list is a thick skin or a near
close at hand .liquor store.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message-
From: jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[Kevin]

you also, pour yourself a big cup of coffee.
I'm too up tight no coffee for me!

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 5:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

hi Kevin:
Chill out!!!, everything is OK.
have a nice evening...
Going to eat some pizza now...ahahah

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

I was just saying I wasn't saying  your wrong!

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[Carolyn Arnold]

I can see that, as head of two groups of card players containing about 20
members each - I shudder to think of yall with this big, high-traffic list. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

The first requirement to running any mailing list is a thick skin or a near
close at hand .liquor store.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message-
From: jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
For answers to frequently asked

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[Kevin]

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of 
my computers.


-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version 
depending on what system you have.

Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a 
verification email.

Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all 
the latest updates.

Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on 
from your system.

Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your 
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself 
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, 
check the yes and press enter on next.

Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to 
complete.

After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the 
desktop.

very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with 
all your settings, except for 2 of them.

Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the 
needed drivers.

Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[jim]

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions 
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless 
and dumb stuff...

One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[Kevin]

I was just saying I wasn't saying  your wrong!

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[Trish]

haha

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step


The first requirement to running any mailing list is a thick skin or a near
close at hand .liquor store.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message-
From: jim
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

[jim]

hi Kevin:
Chill out!!!, everything is OK.
have a nice evening...
Going to eat some pizza now...ahahah

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

I was just saying I wasn't saying  your wrong!

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

In windows 10 as always, there is more than one way to do things.
Try caps lock+escape, to quit narrator, it works.
Oh, I forgot, when people take the time to write step by step instructions
for others, there is always one or two who want to complain about useless
and dumb stuff...
One reason why I started my own list.
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

funny win key+enter toggles windows narrator on/off when I upgraded both of
my computers.

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10 step by step

Upgrading to Windows 10 step by step by Jim.
Keystrokes for starting and stopping narrator, you will need them later.
windows key+enter, to start narrator.
caps lock key+escape, to quit narrator.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragments and so on
from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the caps lock+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
Windows 8.1 should upgrade the first time.
windows 7 may take two or more times until it goes and installs all the
needed drivers.
Good luck...


Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to windows 10!

[Bob Edenhofer]

No it won’t reck your machine.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[Marek Durila]

Hi,
As I tried from win 7, it made me update no possibility of clean install on
second partiton at this time.


 
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From:   Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date:   2015-06-29 05:07 PM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10
Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com



do you know if that can be viewed as a text document, audio is not the best

thing for me when needing info!

-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109 before you jump
into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?



Best,

Al

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[JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[Alan Robbins]

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?

 

Best,

Al

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[George Martinez CPA]

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109 before you jump
into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?

 

Best,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[Kevin Lee]

do you know if that can be viewed as a text document, audio is not the best 
thing for me when needing info!


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109 before you jump
into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?



Best,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[John Melia]

Not much to write down just good guidelines and you won't have much to
remember.  The new inter browser wont't work with jaws write away so it
might be better to wait a little while before upgrading to windows 10. Also
you might need sighted help when it is done upgrading to windows.  Jaws
won't start talking.  Use windows key and the enter key to get narrator
talking.  Also if you have any earlier versions of jaws it won't work and
they will not work. They must be removed.  When jaws starts it may need a
repair as well.  Last but not least some of your programs may not work with
windows 10.  u

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

do you know if that can be viewed as a text document, audio is not the best
thing for me when needing info!

-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109 before you jump
into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a clean install or the
upgrade feature? I realize the official release is not out until July 29 but
there are many folks testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean
install or upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted assistance?



Best,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[Alan Robbins]

Kevin,

Don't believe so, only see a mp3 option

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

do you know if that can be viewed as a text document, audio
is not the best thing for me when needing info!

-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109
before you jump into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?



Best,

Al

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visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[Alan Robbins]

George,

I did and that is what prompted the question as I was
curious how folks that took the prerelease plunge made out

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109
before you jump into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?

 

Best,

Al

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visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[Kevin Lee]

thanks for the info

-Original Message- 
From: John Melia

Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Not much to write down just good guidelines and you won't have much to
remember.  The new inter browser wont't work with jaws write away so it
might be better to wait a little while before upgrading to windows 10. Also
you might need sighted help when it is done upgrading to windows.  Jaws
won't start talking.  Use windows key and the enter key to get narrator
talking.  Also if you have any earlier versions of jaws it won't work and
they will not work. They must be removed.  When jaws starts it may need a
repair as well.  Last but not least some of your programs may not work with
windows 10.  u

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

do you know if that can be viewed as a text document, audio is not the best
thing for me when needing info!

-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109 before you jump
into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a clean install or the
upgrade feature? I realize the official release is not out until July 29 but
there are many folks testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean
install or upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted assistance?



Best,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

[George Martinez CPA]

Al, there are 2 major reasons to wait with Windows 10:
1. JAWS always has a while to catch up with a new version of Windows.
2. Microsoft does its testing on the market and so many changes come forth
after a release of Windows and Office Suite products after the market uses
it for a while.
George


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

George,

I did and that is what prompted the question as I was
curious how folks that took the prerelease plunge made out

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
George Martinez CPA
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

You might want to go to FS website and listen to FSCAST 109
before you jump into Windows 10.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:25 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading to Windows 10

Anyone on the list updated to Windows 10 using either a
clean install or the upgrade feature? I realize the official
release is not out until July 29 but there are many folks
testing it out. How does JAWS work with the clean install or
upgrade process? Can this be done without sighted
assistance?

 

Best,

Al

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visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[Rose Combs]

Thanks, I know jaws for word-processing, e-mail and internet, as well as file 
management tasks but I could never teach PowerPoint or Excel, these programs I 
use only when I have no choice and getting either of them to work outside of 
filling in a worksheet already prepared or reading a slide are over my head for 
the most part.  
I have three other screen readers on this computer, one I don't know well, its 
command structure is considerably different than JAWS  and I have not taken 
much time to learn it, although I did solve a problem for someone using that 
one once.  
One reason I have not considered teaching is that I have no certifications or 
degrees and I don't do well if I have to keep repeating the same thing over 
more than two times.  I normally can read something once, maybe twice depending 
on what I am doing while reading and do it at least I could until recent 
months.  Not sure I have the patience to teach or explain it differently if my 
way does not work for someone else.  

Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of LeDon
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop 
working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

I enjoyed reading your post where you told us how you use to work and the 
problems you had to overcome in your job. Now after being retired, you have 
nothing to do. May I suggest, that you try to start a support group for people 
living with sight loss.  Many people who have lost their sight feel loss and 
are full of fear, thinking that their life is over. 
That's not true there is much that they can learn to do. They just have to find 
someone to lean on. That could be your support group. It is obvious that  you 
have many life skills and you have much experience with being blind   while 
still beaing able to hold a job by using the computer with jaws. You have much 
to offer and you may help many people by teaching them life skills and the use 
of jaws.  There is no telling whose life you may change. . That is what I did 
after losing my sight just five years ago. I started a support group for people 
who have lost their sight or had been blind for all or most of their lives. It 
gives me something to do because the group means a lot to me. Now after four 
years, we  still are the only support group of it's kind in all of Dallas 
Texas. Just a thought.  LeDon. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop 
working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I 
won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more 
about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my 
job.  Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do 
so last year at this time.  Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now 
alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, 
Vista, XP, 98.  I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP 
until the computer I was using stopped working in fact.  However, I was more 
than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed 
in February 2010.  I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 
did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait 
at least until September or October to switch.  Will see if my cousin can come 
help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering.  
Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 
10, but6 progress is the name of the game.  No squealing for joy over this 
change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if 
at a snail's pace.  \

On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes 
available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't 
trust Microsoft to do so.  I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually 
do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am 
forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet.  I am 
not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into 
truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws 
have I turned in a complaint or bug report.  Still, for the most part I like 
the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I 
have done the most.  Only wish that more medical transcription platforms

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[LeDon]

I enjoyed reading your post where you told us how you use to work and the 
problems you had to overcome in your job. Now after being retired, you have 
nothing to do. May I suggest, that you try to start a support group for people 
living with sight loss.  Many people who have lost their sight feel loss and 
are full of fear, thinking that their life is over. 
That's not true there is much that they can learn to do. They just have to find 
someone to lean on. That could be your support group. It is obvious that  you 
have many life skills and you have much experience with being blind   while 
still beaing able to hold a job by using the computer with jaws. You have much 
to offer and you may help many people by teaching them life skills and the use 
of jaws.  There is no telling whose life you may change. . That is what I did 
after losing my sight just five years ago. I started a support group for people 
who have lost their sight or had been blind for all or most of their lives. It 
gives me something to do because the group means a lot to me. Now after four 
years, we  still are the only support group of it's kind in all of Dallas 
Texas. Just a thought.  LeDon. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop 
working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I 
won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more 
about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my 
job.  Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do 
so last year at this time.  Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now 
alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, 
Vista, XP, 98.  I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP 
until the computer I was using stopped working in fact.  However, I was more 
than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed 
in February 2010.  I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 
did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait 
at least until September or October to switch.  Will see if my cousin can come 
help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering.  
Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 
10, but6 progress is the name of the game.  No squealing for joy over this 
change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if 
at a snail's pace.  \

On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes 
available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't 
trust Microsoft to do so.  I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually 
do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am 
forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet.  I am 
not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into 
truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws 
have I turned in a complaint or bug report.  Still, for the most part I like 
the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I 
have done the most.  Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did 
everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of 
JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms.  I was employed 
39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with 
minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March.  
I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in 
eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more 
than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks.  Again, not Jaws 
fault, not completely my fault but more the programmers and supervisors who 
could not understand the issues I was facing with boxes that would not open so 
I could provide the correct information, some of which were not even visible to 
JAWS.  

Since this is not a commonly used program by thousands but only used by 
probable less than 10 persons, I did not expect FS to assist me.  Instead, I 
decided to retire a couple of years earlier than I had initially planned, now 
am bored to death after only eight weeks and wish I could help somewhere from 
home, can't move at the moment.  

Feeling mostly useless which is probably why I am writing long messages, LOL.  
 


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[David Ferrin]

Please somebody tell me why I try so hard to keep things on topic. It is 
proving to be a waste of my time and bandwidth. Which turns in to a monetary 
cost as well. 

I keep wondering when I check my email in the morning if the list will even 
have a single message out of 50 that is remotely near the fringes of being on 
topic. 

Oh well guess I'll just keep on wishing, maybe I'll pick up a lottery ticket 
today, yes that's the way to go.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of LeDon
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop 
working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

I enjoyed reading your post where you told us how you use to work and the 
problems you had to overcome in your job. Now after being retired, you have 
nothing to do. May I suggest, that you try to start a support group for people 
living with sight loss.  Many people who have lost their sight feel loss and 
are full of fear, thinking that their life is over. 
That's not true there is much that they can learn to do. They just have to find 
someone to lean on. That could be your support group. It is obvious that  you 
have many life skills and you have much experience with being blind   while 
still beaing able to hold a job by using the computer with jaws. You have much 
to offer and you may help many people by teaching them life skills and the use 
of jaws.  There is no telling whose life you may change. . That is what I did 
after losing my sight just five years ago. I started a support group for people 
who have lost their sight or had been blind for all or most of their lives. It 
gives me something to do because the group means a lot to me. Now after four 
years, we  still are the only support group of it's kind in all of Dallas 
Texas. Just a thought.  LeDon. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop 
working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I 
won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more 
about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my 
job.  Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do 
so last year at this time.  Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now 
alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, 
Vista, XP, 98.  I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP 
until the computer I was using stopped working in fact.  However, I was more 
than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed 
in February 2010.  I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 
did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait 
at least until September or October to switch.  Will see if my cousin can come 
help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering.  
Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 
10, but6 progress is the name of the game.  No squealing for joy over this 
change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if 
at a snail's pace.  \

On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes 
available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't 
trust Microsoft to do so.  I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually 
do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am 
forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet.  I am 
not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into 
truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws 
have I turned in a complaint or bug report.  Still, for the most part I like 
the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I 
have done the most.  Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did 
everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of 
JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms.  I was employed 
39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with 
minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March.  
I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in 
eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more 
than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks.  Again

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[Trish]

George,

I just sent this to the list as way of informational, I am sticking with 
Window's 7 for now.
If in the near future I upgrade to anything, it will be a Mac system.

  - Original Message - 
  From: TheHangMan 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things 
stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


  Hi trish,
  Thank you for this mail.

  I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
  Got to stay running with the horses,
  I notice you're up there in the pack.

  Jorge


  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Trish
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:06 AM
  To: Jaws-users-list
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


  Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime June 22, 
2015 by 22 Point

   

  Windows 10 logo

  I’m excited about the upcoming release of Windows 10 – which is good, since 
I’m writing a book on Windows 10 (Please E-Mail me to subscribe to my E-Mail 
list to be in the know as soon as it’s released). 

  You will find an email link at the URL just below.

  
https://22point.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/upgrading-to-windows-10-could-mean-things-stop-working-at-anytime/

   

   

  I think the return of the start menu is a fantastic thing. I am looking 
forward to the voice activation features Cortana will bring (even if they’ll 
only be available to several countries at launch), and I’m ambitious about the 
possibilities of the new Windows Store making it safe again for people to 
download addon software without extra addons they didn’t ask for (see this 
warning about every major Windows freeware site 

  Found here:

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/207692/yes-every-freeware-download-site-is-serving-crapware-heres-the-proof/

   

   

  and this warning about Sourceforge 

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%e2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/

   

  and this warning about ‘free’ Anti-virus software – 

   

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/218675/beware-free-antivirus-isnt-really-free-anymore/

   

  in fact, while you’re on HowToGeek, and if you only read one article, make it 
this article about 12 common PC myths with references those others as well).

  http://www.howtogeek.com/219555/12-of-the-biggest-pc-myths-that-just-wont-die/

   

   

  I do however, have one big reservation about Windows 10, which will resonate 
with anyone who has been through a major system update and uses adaptive 
technology (third party software which makes the PC accessible to those with 
various disabilities) – and indeed for anyone who relies heavily on any piece 
of third party software. Microsoft have announced that as part of the Windows 
10 experience you won’t be able to delay updates in Windows 10 home edition. 

  Read more here:

  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications

   

  Windows 10 will come in a range of flavours, much like the versions before 
it, so if you are using Windows 7 or 8 home, you’ll get a free update to 
Windows 10 home. If you’re using Windows 7 or 8 Pro, then you’ll get the update 
to Windows 10 Pro. While traditionally, Windows updates have mostly been 
security patches and bug fixes, with the occasional Service Pack which might 
introduce some new functionality, Microsoft have generally held over on major 
system and interface updates for new releases of Windows.

  Now however, Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be the last 
version of Windows – 

  http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

   

  meaning that instead of bringing in new features in a few years and 
repackaging the lot in a major update called say Windows 11, Microsoft will 
simply add these features as they are developed into your regular Windows 
updates. On the one hand this has the potential to be really handy – One day 
suddenly new options and settings will appear, Cortana will work in Australia, 
and other things will be changed and improved. But will that always be a good 
thing? Imagine if you were happily using Windows 7 and then one day got a 
Windows update you couldn’t defer and all of a sudden you lost the start menu 
and had the Windows 8 metro tile interface? With user interface and feature 
enhancements being brought into regular Windows updates, it is possible. Since 
in Windows 10 home edition, you won’t be able to defer updates, 

  
http://www.howtogeek.com/219166/you-won%E2%80%99t-be-able-to-disable-or-delay-windows-updates-on-windows-10-home/

   

  you won’t be able to do much about it if it does happen. With Windows 10 
Professional, and Windows 10 Enterprise, users have the option of taking 
updates after a few months, only after they’ve been extensively

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at any time. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[Rose Combs]

Old version Jaws 15 has already been uninstalled from my computer, but then I 
won't be in a great hurry for Window 10, will do it after I know a bit more 
about Jaws 17 probably, I am still in 7, as until recently I had to be for my 
job.  Now no longer employed, retired earlier than I thought I was going to do 
so last year at this time.  Not anxious to move to 10 at this point as I am now 
alone, my late husband is not here to help me initially as he was with 7, 
Vista, XP, 98.  I held onto 98 for two years after everyone else went to XP 
until the computer I was using stopped working in fact.  However, I was more 
than glad to upgrade from Vista to 7 but was not a first-day adopter, changed 
in February 2010.  I know it is long past time for me to move on from 7 but 8.0 
did not appeal at all, I here 8.1 is better but, since 10 is out soon will wait 
at least until September or October to switch.  Will see if my cousin can come 
help, first as he is an expert with degree in computer software engineering.  
Based on what I am hearing thus far, I know I am going to prefer Windows 7 over 
10, but6 progress is the name of the game.  No squealing for joy over this 
change as I did when 95 became accessible but know must continue to progress if 
at a snail's pace.  \

On the other hand I am a first day adopter of Jaws beta when it becomes 
available, I trust FS to meet my needs if not initially soon after as I don't 
trust Microsoft to do so.  I don't turn many problems with a beta, as I usually 
do mostly internet, e-,ail and word processing, don't touch Excel unless I am 
forced to do so and only then if someone else has created the worksheet.  I am 
not into desktop publishing, don't subscribe to movie services, am not into 
truly complex stuff at all and only maybe twice in the years I have used Jaws 
have I turned in a complaint or bug report.  Still, for the most part I like 
the improvements I have seen over the past 18 years or so, for the things I 
have done the most.  Only wish that more medical transcription platforms did 
everything they should do with Jaws, but that is not necessarily the fault of 
JAWS programmers but the programmers who create the platforms.  I was employed 
39 years at one job, managed with Optacon, ASAP, JAWS during that time with 
minor difficulties that my former job understood but was outsourced in March.  
I might still be employed had I been able to access every item needed in 
eScription 11 for example but instead I stressed out, became very ill with more 
than stress as an issue and lost the job after six weeks.  Again, not Jaws 
fault, not completely my fault but more the programmers and supervisors who 
could not understand the issues I was facing with boxes that would not open so 
I could provide the correct information, some of which were not even visible to 
JAWS.  

Since this is not a commonly used program by thousands but only used by 
probable less than 10 persons, I did not expect FS to assist me.  Instead, I 
decided to retire a couple of years earlier than I had initially planned, now 
am bored to death after only eight weeks and wish I could help somewhere from 
home, can't move at the moment.  

Feeling mostly useless which is probably why I am writing long messages, LOL.  
 


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

Same here. Thanks for reminding about IE - need to make note of that one.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo hfia...@rcn.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


 Check podcast by FS on jaws 16 and window 10. There comments about 10 
 is very interesting. Also the suggestion regarding making IE the 
 default program. Also how you will need to uninstall old version of 
 jaws before installing 10. Anyone who will get 10, must listen to the 
 podcast. I did and will follow their suggestion.

 -Original Message-
 From: TheHangMan
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things 
 stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

 Hi trish,
 Thank you for this mail.

 I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
 Got to stay running with the horses,
 I notice you're up there in the pack.

 Jorge


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com

[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[Trish]

Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime
June 22, 2015 by 22 Point

 

Windows 10 logo

I’m excited about the upcoming release of Windows 10 – which is good, since I’m 
writing a book on Windows 10 (Please E-Mail me to subscribe to my E-Mail list 
to be in the know as soon as it’s released). 

You will find an email link at the URL just below.

https://22point.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/upgrading-to-windows-10-could-mean-things-stop-working-at-anytime/

 

 

I think the return of the start menu is a fantastic thing. I am looking forward 
to the voice activation features Cortana will bring (even if they’ll only be 
available to several countries at launch), and I’m ambitious about the 
possibilities of the new Windows Store making it safe again for people to 
download addon software without extra addons they didn’t ask for (see this 
warning about every major Windows freeware site 

Found here:

http://www.howtogeek.com/207692/yes-every-freeware-download-site-is-serving-crapware-heres-the-proof/

 

 

and this warning about Sourceforge 

http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%e2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/

 

and this warning about ‘free’ Anti-virus software – 

 

http://www.howtogeek.com/218675/beware-free-antivirus-isnt-really-free-anymore/

 

in fact, while you’re on HowToGeek, and if you only read one article, make it 
this article about 12 common PC myths with references those others as well).

http://www.howtogeek.com/219555/12-of-the-biggest-pc-myths-that-just-wont-die/

 

 

I do however, have one big reservation about Windows 10, which will resonate 
with anyone who has been through a major system update and uses adaptive 
technology (third party software which makes the PC accessible to those with 
various disabilities) – and indeed for anyone who relies heavily on any piece 
of third party software. Microsoft have announced that as part of the Windows 
10 experience you won’t be able to delay updates in Windows 10 home edition. 

Read more here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications

 

Windows 10 will come in a range of flavours, much like the versions before it, 
so if you are using Windows 7 or 8 home, you’ll get a free update to Windows 10 
home. If you’re using Windows 7 or 8 Pro, then you’ll get the update to Windows 
10 Pro. While traditionally, Windows updates have mostly been security patches 
and bug fixes, with the occasional Service Pack which might introduce some new 
functionality, Microsoft have generally held over on major system and interface 
updates for new releases of Windows.

Now however, Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be the last version 
of Windows – 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

 

meaning that instead of bringing in new features in a few years and repackaging 
the lot in a major update called say Windows 11, Microsoft will simply add 
these features as they are developed into your regular Windows updates. On the 
one hand this has the potential to be really handy – One day suddenly new 
options and settings will appear, Cortana will work in Australia, and other 
things will be changed and improved. But will that always be a good thing? 
Imagine if you were happily using Windows 7 and then one day got a Windows 
update you couldn’t defer and all of a sudden you lost the start menu and had 
the Windows 8 metro tile interface? With user interface and feature 
enhancements being brought into regular Windows updates, it is possible. Since 
in Windows 10 home edition, you won’t be able to defer updates, 

http://www.howtogeek.com/219166/you-won%E2%80%99t-be-able-to-disable-or-delay-windows-updates-on-windows-10-home/

 

you won’t be able to do much about it if it does happen. With Windows 10 
Professional, and Windows 10 Enterprise, users have the option of taking 
updates after a few months, only after they’ve been extensively tested on home 
users (see previous link) – which makes using Windows 10 home great if you like 
being an early adopter and trying out new things (you can also sign up to be a 
Windows insider and download early builds of Windows 10 now before they launch, 
and get new features in future even before they are pushed out to Windows 10 
home users.

Read more here:

https://insider.windows.com/Home/Index

 

For home users, the idea of not having a choice about installing security 
updates is actually not so bad, as it will ensure that security updates are in 
fact up to date, and Windows 10 won’t be quite as in-your-face about updates as 
they have been on occasion in the past, but rather will download updates and 
install them as you reboot, as has been happening recently so many users won’t 
even notice except that the PC will take a bit longer to shut down on those 
occasions.

The problem comes in when features are added or how existing features work 
changes. While some 3rd party programs 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[TheHangMan]

Hi trish,
Thank you for this mail.

I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
Got to stay running with the horses,
I notice you're up there in the pack.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:06 AM
To: Jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at 
anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime June 22, 2015 
by 22 Point

 

Windows 10 logo

I’m excited about the upcoming release of Windows 10 – which is good, since I’m 
writing a book on Windows 10 (Please E-Mail me to subscribe to my E-Mail list 
to be in the know as soon as it’s released). 

You will find an email link at the URL just below.

https://22point.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/upgrading-to-windows-10-could-mean-things-stop-working-at-anytime/

 

 

I think the return of the start menu is a fantastic thing. I am looking forward 
to the voice activation features Cortana will bring (even if they’ll only be 
available to several countries at launch), and I’m ambitious about the 
possibilities of the new Windows Store making it safe again for people to 
download addon software without extra addons they didn’t ask for (see this 
warning about every major Windows freeware site 

Found here:

http://www.howtogeek.com/207692/yes-every-freeware-download-site-is-serving-crapware-heres-the-proof/

 

 

and this warning about Sourceforge 

http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%e2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/

 

and this warning about ‘free’ Anti-virus software – 

 

http://www.howtogeek.com/218675/beware-free-antivirus-isnt-really-free-anymore/

 

in fact, while you’re on HowToGeek, and if you only read one article, make it 
this article about 12 common PC myths with references those others as well).

http://www.howtogeek.com/219555/12-of-the-biggest-pc-myths-that-just-wont-die/

 

 

I do however, have one big reservation about Windows 10, which will resonate 
with anyone who has been through a major system update and uses adaptive 
technology (third party software which makes the PC accessible to those with 
various disabilities) – and indeed for anyone who relies heavily on any piece 
of third party software. Microsoft have announced that as part of the Windows 
10 experience you won’t be able to delay updates in Windows 10 home edition. 

Read more here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications

 

Windows 10 will come in a range of flavours, much like the versions before it, 
so if you are using Windows 7 or 8 home, you’ll get a free update to Windows 10 
home. If you’re using Windows 7 or 8 Pro, then you’ll get the update to Windows 
10 Pro. While traditionally, Windows updates have mostly been security patches 
and bug fixes, with the occasional Service Pack which might introduce some new 
functionality, Microsoft have generally held over on major system and interface 
updates for new releases of Windows.

Now however, Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be the last version 
of Windows – 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

 

meaning that instead of bringing in new features in a few years and repackaging 
the lot in a major update called say Windows 11, Microsoft will simply add 
these features as they are developed into your regular Windows updates. On the 
one hand this has the potential to be really handy – One day suddenly new 
options and settings will appear, Cortana will work in Australia, and other 
things will be changed and improved. But will that always be a good thing? 
Imagine if you were happily using Windows 7 and then one day got a Windows 
update you couldn’t defer and all of a sudden you lost the start menu and had 
the Windows 8 metro tile interface? With user interface and feature 
enhancements being brought into regular Windows updates, it is possible. Since 
in Windows 10 home edition, you won’t be able to defer updates, 

http://www.howtogeek.com/219166/you-won%E2%80%99t-be-able-to-disable-or-delay-windows-updates-on-windows-10-home/

 

you won’t be able to do much about it if it does happen. With Windows 10 
Professional, and Windows 10 Enterprise, users have the option of taking 
updates after a few months, only after they’ve been extensively tested on home 
users (see previous link) – which makes using Windows 10 home great if you like 
being an early adopter and trying out new things (you can also sign up to be a 
Windows insider and download early builds of Windows 10 now before they launch, 
and get new features in future even before they are pushed out to Windows 10 
home users.

Read more here:

https://insider.windows.com/Home/Index

 

For home users, the idea of not having a choice about installing security 
updates

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean thingsstopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[Carolyn Arnold]

Same here. Thanks for reminding about IE - need to make note of that one.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo hfia...@rcn.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean 
thingsstopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015



Check podcast by FS on jaws 16 and window 10. There comments about 10 is 
very interesting. Also the suggestion regarding making IE the default 
program. Also how you will need to uninstall old version of jaws before 
installing 10. Anyone who will get 10, must listen to the podcast. I did 
and will follow their suggestion.


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things 
stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


Hi trish,
Thank you for this mail.

I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
Got to stay running with the horses,
I notice you're up there in the pack.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Trish

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:06 AM
To: Jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop 
working at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015



Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime June 22, 
2015 by 22 Point




Windows 10 logo

I’m excited about the upcoming release of Windows 10 – which is good, 
since I’m writing a book on Windows 10 (Please E-Mail me to subscribe to 
my E-Mail list to be in the know as soon as it’s released).


You will find an email link at the URL just below.

https://22point.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/upgrading-to-windows-10-could-mean-things-stop-working-at-anytime/





I think the return of the start menu is a fantastic thing. I am looking 
forward to the voice activation features Cortana will bring (even if they’ll 
only be available to several countries at launch), and I’m ambitious about 
the possibilities of the new Windows Store making it safe again for people 
to download addon software without extra addons they didn’t ask for (see 
this warning about every major Windows freeware site


Found here:

http://www.howtogeek.com/207692/yes-every-freeware-download-site-is-serving-crapware-heres-the-proof/





and this warning about Sourceforge

http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%e2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/



and this warning about ‘free’ Anti-virus software –



http://www.howtogeek.com/218675/beware-free-antivirus-isnt-really-free-anymore/



in fact, while you’re on HowToGeek, and if you only read one article, make 
it this article about 12 common PC myths with references those others as 
well).


http://www.howtogeek.com/219555/12-of-the-biggest-pc-myths-that-just-wont-die/





I do however, have one big reservation about Windows 10, which will 
resonate with anyone who has been through a major system update and uses 
adaptive technology (third party software which makes the PC accessible to 
those with various disabilities) – and indeed for anyone who relies 
heavily on any piece of third party software. Microsoft have announced 
that as part of the Windows 10 experience you won’t be able to delay 
updates in Windows 10 home edition.


Read more here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications



Windows 10 will come in a range of flavours, much like the versions before 
it, so if you are using Windows 7 or 8 home, you’ll get a free update to 
Windows 10 home. If you’re using Windows 7 or 8 Pro, then you’ll get the 
update to Windows 10 Pro. While traditionally, Windows updates have mostly 
been security patches and bug fixes, with the occasional Service Pack 
which might introduce some new functionality, Microsoft have generally 
held over on major system and interface updates for new releases of 
Windows.


Now however, Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be the last 
version of Windows –


http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows



meaning that instead of bringing in new features in a few years and 
repackaging the lot in a major update called say Windows 11, Microsoft 
will simply add these features as they are developed into your regular 
Windows updates. On the one hand this has the potential to be really 
handy – One day suddenly new options and settings will appear, Cortana 
will work in Australia, and other things will be changed and improved. But 
will that always be a good thing? Imagine if you were happily using 
Windows 7 and then one day got a Windows update you couldn’t defer and all 
of a sudden you lost the start menu and had the Windows 8 metro tile 
interface? With user interface and feature enhancements being brought

Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015

[Holger Fiallo]

Check podcast by FS on jaws 16 and window 10. There comments about 10 is 
very interesting. Also the suggestion regarding making IE the default 
program. Also how you will need to uninstall old version of jaws before 
installing 10. Anyone who will get 10, must listen to the podcast. I did and 
will follow their suggestion.


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things 
stopworking at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015


Hi trish,
Thank you for this mail.

I'm going 10 Pro on my 2 laptops and say, 'later to 7.'
Got to stay running with the horses,
I notice you're up there in the pack.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Trish

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:06 AM
To: Jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working 
at anytime. Dan's tip for June 25 2015



Upgrading to Windows 10 could mean things stop working at anytime June 22, 
2015 by 22 Point




Windows 10 logo

I’m excited about the upcoming release of Windows 10 – which is good, since 
I’m writing a book on Windows 10 (Please E-Mail me to subscribe to my E-Mail 
list to be in the know as soon as it’s released).


You will find an email link at the URL just below.

https://22point.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/upgrading-to-windows-10-could-mean-things-stop-working-at-anytime/





I think the return of the start menu is a fantastic thing. I am looking 
forward to the voice activation features Cortana will bring (even if they’ll 
only be available to several countries at launch), and I’m ambitious about 
the possibilities of the new Windows Store making it safe again for people 
to download addon software without extra addons they didn’t ask for (see 
this warning about every major Windows freeware site


Found here:

http://www.howtogeek.com/207692/yes-every-freeware-download-site-is-serving-crapware-heres-the-proof/





and this warning about Sourceforge

http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%e2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/



and this warning about ‘free’ Anti-virus software –



http://www.howtogeek.com/218675/beware-free-antivirus-isnt-really-free-anymore/



in fact, while you’re on HowToGeek, and if you only read one article, make 
it this article about 12 common PC myths with references those others as 
well).


http://www.howtogeek.com/219555/12-of-the-biggest-pc-myths-that-just-wont-die/





I do however, have one big reservation about Windows 10, which will resonate 
with anyone who has been through a major system update and uses adaptive 
technology (third party software which makes the PC accessible to those with 
various disabilities) – and indeed for anyone who relies heavily on any 
piece of third party software. Microsoft have announced that as part of the 
Windows 10 experience you won’t be able to delay updates in Windows 10 home 
edition.


Read more here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications



Windows 10 will come in a range of flavours, much like the versions before 
it, so if you are using Windows 7 or 8 home, you’ll get a free update to 
Windows 10 home. If you’re using Windows 7 or 8 Pro, then you’ll get the 
update to Windows 10 Pro. While traditionally, Windows updates have mostly 
been security patches and bug fixes, with the occasional Service Pack which 
might introduce some new functionality, Microsoft have generally held over 
on major system and interface updates for new releases of Windows.


Now however, Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be the last 
version of Windows –


http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows



meaning that instead of bringing in new features in a few years and 
repackaging the lot in a major update called say Windows 11, Microsoft will 
simply add these features as they are developed into your regular Windows 
updates. On the one hand this has the potential to be really handy – One day 
suddenly new options and settings will appear, Cortana will work in 
Australia, and other things will be changed and improved. But will that 
always be a good thing? Imagine if you were happily using Windows 7 and then 
one day got a Windows update you couldn’t defer and all of a sudden you lost 
the start menu and had the Windows 8 metro tile interface? With user 
interface and feature enhancements being brought into regular Windows 
updates, it is possible. Since in Windows 10 home edition, you won’t be able 
to defer updates,


http://www.howtogeek.com/219166/you-won%E2%80%99t-be-able-to-disable-or-delay-windows-updates-on-windows-10-home/



you won’t be able to do much about it if it does happen. With Windows 10 
Professional, and Windows 10 Enterprise, users have the option of taking 
updates after a few months, only after