Re: [JDEV] Configuring server side component
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:57:48AM +0100, OUCHIA Mehdi FTRD/SVA/LAN wrote: Hello, I've got a problem with server side component configuration in jabber.xml. Indeed, i have a jabberd running on a first machine called MachineA and an accept component on another one called MachineB. In jabber.xml on MachineA, if i configure my component called ordermanager as follows : service id=ordermanager.MachineA accept ipMachineB/ip port5999/port One problem is here - this is saying to jabberd on MachineA please listen on socket MachineB:5999 - it would be pretty amazing if that would work :-) secretsecret/secret /accept /service When i try to run the jabberd, i got the following error message : ERROR: Base Handler Returned an Error: accept unable to listen on the configured ip and port Because the IP address is wrong (see above) However, the 2 machines are on the same network. And when i put no information for the ip tag ( only ip/), then my component is correctly registered with the handshake. Unfortunately, the jabberd seems to be unable to redirect to this component message or iq packets coming from classic clients !!! An empty ip/ tag just means that jabberd will listen on INADDR_ANY for connections coming in for port 5999. THis is fine. The routing problem you describe, is probably separate from this issue. What is the 'to' address set to on the packets from the clients that don't make it to the component? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] jabber extensions available for handling location information
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:47:20AM +0100, Arjan Peddemors wrote: The extended server handles location elements at the same level as the common data types message, presence, and iq; i.e. location I may be missing something here (due to my 'time off' recently) so sorry if I'm speaking out of turn ... but this seems slightly worrying - a new top-level element? Does this relate to a current JEP? I can't see any that might fit... Cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Two INstances of Jabberd on the same system
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:21:44PM -0800, SARADHI wrote: Hi, How to maintain two instances of jabberd1.4.2 on the same system. I know we can install the same jabberd server at some other folder in the same system and use another port other than 5222 and give a different domain name when starting the Server. Is there any way that the same jabber server can be acted as two instances. For example, I need to use a server for my company internal purposes and other for external purposes and no relation between the users of this two different systems. Sure. You can run 'virtual Jabber servers' within the same jabberd 'instance' listening on 5222. Basically, use more than one 'jsm' section in your single server config. There are details on doing this sort of stuff in Programming Jabber (chapter 4) :-) Cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Writing presence-enabled agents/components
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 02:20:40PM -0500, Ralph Siemsen wrote: The only way around this seems to be to have the agent permanently store the JIDs of all users who have subscribed the agent. Then upon connect or disconnect, the agent has to explicitly send out presence events to all those JIDs. Have I missed something obvious? Is the intention for agents to explicitly store their subscriber lists (on disk)? Or is there a way to make use of the existing code in jabberd but applied to an agent? The essential difference here is that clients connect (via the client concentrator) and use the services of the JSM, and components just connect to the jabberd backbone. A component is a peer, so to speak, of the JSM. The JSM contains a presence module that handles what you're describing, so clients enjoy the benefit of that module's service. A component, on the other hand doesn't, so the short answer is yes, the component must do the work of the JSM presence module that it wants doing. DJ floating in and out of online-ness ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Writing presence-enabled agents/components
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 08:37:15AM -0500, Ralph Siemsen wrote: Ralph Siemsen wrote: I'm having some difficulties writing an external jabber component(agent) to behave correctly with regards to presence - eg. I want users to be able to subscribe my agent and see its presence, and vice versa. Replying to myself here... I have of course looked at DJs nice example in his Programming Jabber book... the cvsmsg-s script does exactly what I want. But it is implemented as a mortal user, not an external (further to my previous reply) - yes, this 'does it' but only indirectly, in that it's a client and so can automatically partake of the JSM's presence services. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Problem transporting SOAP over Jabber using SOAP::Lite Perl module
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Keith Downs wrote: I am trying to use SOAP::Lite version 0.55 with Net::Jabber version 1.26. Apparently these version are not compatible, as a method called AddDelegate is called in the SOAP::Lite implementation to delegate the Net::Jabber::Query module with the SOAP::Transport::JABBER::Query module. Apparently this method has been removed in more recent version of Net::Jabber. Has anyone encountered this and figured out how to work around it? I emailed Paul K about this quite a while ago, and mentioned that I'd hacked together support based on the discussions of SOAP-over-Jabber we had last year on the rpc-jig. It was based on Jabber::Connection, though, and I'm not sure if I can find it now. I'll have a search around. Basically, though, yes, the SOAP::Lite use of Net::Jabber is written to a different tune (namely the discontinued Delegate model). dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Q: Conferencing features
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:11:04PM +0200, Andreas Ames wrote: Hi, I've got two questions: 1) Is it possible for the same user to connect several times to the same conference room from different resources (with different nicks). Yes 2) Is there a IRC-similar 'voice'-feature with conference rooms? No. Not in the current incarnation(s) of the groupchat/conference protocols. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Autoupdate
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 09:39:05AM -0600, Ben Schumacher wrote: It relies on S2S. The current autoupdate protocol (which could be cleaned up a little) is designed so that clients send a presence packet with the following format: presence to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0.1.2.3/ Where '1251235123' is a unique identifier, '0.1.2.3' is the current version number, and update.jabber.org is (of course) the target host. If FWIW, there's some more background here: http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/update.html cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] dynamic/ config tag (in search of portable C lib)
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 01:12:25PM +0200, Andreas Ames wrote: Hi, while wading through the 1.4.2 sources to figure out how to use libjabber (which is the only C lib for jabber I found that seems to be complete and somewhat portable; any other recommendations are welcome), I came across the dynamic/ config tag in base_dynamic.c. So far I have no clue how to use it and what it's for (I assume I can influence the delivery process/message routing with dynamic handlers; but I may be completely wrong). Unfortunately I'm very curious. Neither google nor DJ Adams' book were my friends here. Can someone help me out, please? Hi Andreas If I remember correctly, it's something that Jer put together during 1.4.1 but remained experimental. (Programming Jabber was based more or less on 1.4.1 but as I had to prune the contents, experimental stuff was always first on the cuttingroom floor :-). It's basically a way of being able to plug handlers into a running jabberd. I think it's defined per-component, so you'd have something like: service id='dynamicstuff' hostblah/host dynamic definition of dynamic files here /dynamic /service The files (all in the same directory) are .so loadable, I think, and have to confirm to the jabberd API. HTH a bit dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Etherx
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:25:55PM -0600, Sean Kirkby wrote: What is the uplink/ technique? It serves as a packet magnet when you plug in another jabberd into your existing jabberd, so that all packet types (service, xdb, log) get pulled through the connection. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Getting subscrition requests
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 06:10:32AM +, Matthias Wimmer wrote: Hi DJ! I thought the 'kick' would be when I send my presence/ because then the server starts to send me the presences of other users and subscription requests are send as presences too. It's a fair thought, but there are two kicks. MfG dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Getting subscrition requests
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 08:48:39PM +, Matthias Wimmer wrote: Hi! Is it correct, that I only get subscription requests as a user when I requested the roster before? It's no problem, just that I searched the whole day for the problem why I don't get the subscription requests in my script ;) Yes, that's correct. The pending requests (while you're offline) are stored in the roster in some hidden attributes. Sending an IQ-get for iq:roster is the 'kick' that the JSM waits for before sending you any pending requests. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Getting subscrition requests
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 04:01:01PM -0600, Sean Kirkby wrote: Is that behavior specific to the reference jabberd server (or it's xdb_file module), or is it part of the spec? Well it's always difficult to separate the two with many projects like this, because the egg came before the chicken, so to speak. That's one of the reasons for some of informative JEPs. If one wanted to store the roster data in an LDAP directory, do any provisions need to be made to ensure that the subscribe='' and hidden='' attributes are stored with roster items that have a subscription type of none, but haven't been accepted or declined for a specific request? Well, it's not my place to dictate how things should be written; it really all depends on what's necessary to emulate what jabberd, which in lots of cases serves as the 'working copy' of the spec, does. Would it be better to simply create a new subscription type called pending? I.E. if someone sends me a subscription request, they are added to my roster like this: item [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscription=pending While 'hidden' attributes are sometimes less desirable than in-your-face non-shy tags, I think the decision as to whether it would be better is unavoidably linked to how far down the line we are now. Wooly replies, I know, but things like this are never clear cut (to me) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Questions about jabber:x:events
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Sean Kirkby wrote: Hello, I have a few questions I'm hoping someone can help with: 1) Is the id attribute of a message/ packet a required attribute? Not in Jabber. 2) If not, and a client receives a message/ packet with a x xmlns=jabber:x:eventscomposing//x request in it, how shoudl the client handle the request? It will not have a message ID to put in the That's a good question. Basically, it can handle it, but it will be ineffectual, of course, as you describe below. There's nothing the responder can do other than send the event (when appropriate) with an empty id/ tag. 3) Is the composing event the only event that really supports the notion of canceling the event? In other words, does it ever make With x:event, yes. sense to try to cancel any of the other three events? Rather than canceling a composing event, wouldn't it make more sense to make it two different events? After all, if a user starts composing, and an event notification is sent, it really doesn't make sense to try to say oops... actually, the user never really started composing... so cancel Well, I guess it's a subjective decision. If I start typing something, then for example, I close my compose window, that (for me) would be an appropriate situation to send a cancel. that. Rather, it would make more sense to have a composing_start event and a composing_stop event. Am I off base here? Not at all. It's not off base to query things. Good questions are always welcome. 4) If canceling an event applies to more than the composing event (perhaps to future events not yet supported), does the current scheme for canceling events allow for this easily? As far as I can tell, the event cancellation doesn't really identify an event to cancel. Is the event cancelation supposed to apply only to the most recently received event, or is it only supposed to apply to composing events? This is the most significant disadvantage of the x:event namespace. The JEP (0022) was deliberately written to reflect the as-is situation. There was some debate on this subject while it was being written, but I think the general concensus was that any new features should be discussed separately, and probably in a new namespace. HTH dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] theoretic-smtp, Ransom License, Jabber and GPL incompatibility
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 08:22:35AM -0700, James Michael DuPont wrote: Quit your license whining. Fine, I wont bother you anymore with it. I just was looking for some XMLRPC over Jabber or over SMTP stuff and found his code days ago and had written to him about the license. There's some XMLRPC over Jabber code on CPAN - module Jabber::RPC dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Command Line Interface
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:39:59AM -0400, Bob Bingham wrote: Is it possible to send a message to a online user via command line? For example #echo This is the message | sendito jabber.mylocalserver.com This would be sent from another (unix) system on the LAN. It could also be a script on this other system rather than command line. It would also be a one-way conversation with no reply expected, jsut a pop up message. Sure. Just write a simple script to do this - shouldn't be much work. FWIW, I wrote a 'wall' style script[1] a while ago; a bit out of date but you might get a picture from it. Cheers dj [1] http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jann.html ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Security and debug
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:10:38AM -0500, Ed Giesen wrote: I have been getting a jabberd working with ssl. During my playing around, I noticed that when jabberd is invoked with -D, and clients are using ssl, the debug output still prints out messages, decrypted. I was wondering if this situation has been discussed at all. I know that some information is needed when debugging, even in a secure site, but, is chat content ever needed? I'm sure there will be lots of different opinions about this; here's mine (keeping in mind that these are answers to your / my (imaginary) colleagues): - SSL is to protect the data in transit, not on the server itself - it's not just chat messages that go through and need to be debugged it's other traffic too (Jabber isn't just IM ;-) - production servers shouldn't be run with -D - correspondents have the option of encrypting their messages, independent of whether the conduit itself is encrypted - see jabber:x:encrypted - it's not just the -D log that shows chat messages in 'plain' view; what about messages that are stored in the event of the recipients' absence? (this one's a double-edged sword :-) cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Recognizing cached messages
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:24:22PM +0200, Andreas Ames wrote: Are all cached messages tagged with a x/ in the 'jabber:x:delay' namespace? If so, I could use this as a trigger to ignore those messages, meaning that my producer couldn't use this namespace in its events. Are there any useful applications of this namespace within in Yes. In jabberd, the JSM module mod_offline attaches such a tag. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber vs. Jabber::Connection?
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:40:55AM -0600, Nicholas Perez wrote: But alas both have flaws too. After while you get tired of typing/cutting/pasting, all of those methods with J::C to accomplish the simple things that N::J does in one method. As for N::J Everything is an That's why I like Perl - it's got things like subroutines, require, use, and modules for building your own frequently used routines ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber vs. Jabber::Connection?
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:09:25AM -0500, Ryan Eatmon wrote: Uh I think you're wrong on that... Err, nope. But thanks for quoting the can_read() docu at me :-) As I said, if you don't pass a value to process() it assumes 0. Passing 0 to can_read isn't the same as passing nothing. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber vs. Jabber::Connection?
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 01:12:42PM -0400, Dave wrote: If I understood Ryan correctly, he was simply stating that J::C's process() doesn't follow the lead of the PERL IO package, while N::J's process() does. Yeah, just chatting with Ryan now ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber vs. Jabber::Connection?
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:10:51PM -0500, Ryan Eatmon wrote:
You could try Process(0) to wait 0 seconds (ie. exit immediatly). As
for being odd that Process() blocks, this is the same behavior as many
other Perl modules (IO:Select comes to mind first). I would argue that
Jabber::Connection is the odd man out.
Why?
J::C's process() uses IO::Select (specifically the can_read() function).
The behaviour is the same - it blocks for up to X seconds waiting for
something to be available. Calling process() (i.e. with no explicit
value) just makes the function assume 0 seconds.
As for the differences between the two. DJ wrote Jabber::XX as an
exercise and is slowly adding more to it. Net::Jabber is meant to be a
100% protocol compatible and high level implementation (in other words
GetFrom() is high level as it hides the guts from you).
It did start out as an excercise but turned out to be the module I was
looking for too ;-) It's different to N::J in that it's a lowlevel
lightweight approach. Rather than include high-level functions like
GetFrom(), it allows you to build your own (the equivalent here is
attr('from')) using the NodeFactory module which was loosely aimed to
reflect the API of the xmlnode library in the open source Jabber server.
It gives you the flexibility to manipulate the nodes of the Jabber XML
protocol as you see fit.
The examples you see on some of my web pages are with N::J as that was
what I was using at the time.
Although I've seen examples of people using both J::C and N::J together,
it's usually the case that people will find one or the other that they
feel comfortable with (bottom-up vs top-down approaches).
Cheers
dj
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Re: [JDEV] DoS on server component
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:16:45PM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote: Hello All, While I was typing one of countless telnet probes on a server component I am trying to develop, I casually managed to DOS my own server... in a quite unexpected way. ... My code is modeled after DJ Adams example of an RSS news agent, and for the purpose of this discussion, I'll use his: Uh-oh ;-) Now, in my sleepyness, I did put in the query iq id='browse' to='rss.jabber.endorfine.org' from='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' type='get' query xmlns='jabber:iq:browse'/ /iq Apparently the unnecessay from attribute confuses the toFrom() function, and the result is that the message keeps being fed to the component by the server - Hmm, this seems a little odd, especially when one considers that the JSM will whack on the 'correct' from attribute before it reaches the component. Do you have any log of the packets as the loop starts? cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] LOGS
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 12:43:47PM -, tom drake wrote: Hi All, Is there any way i can keep a log of the message that I'm sending through my client. Jabber maintains only the record.log (login and logout) and the error.log. I would like to keep track of the number of message that I'm sending to jabber from my client, so is there anyway of doing this. I wanted to know what this Jabber chatbot is all about. You may be interested in the Server Module Updates section of http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/1.4/142changelog.html cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] s2s Protocol?
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:35:24PM -0700, Mike Mintz wrote: Where can I find information on the s2s protocol? I wrote up a sort of reference here: http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jdp/c53.htm hth DJ ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] register namespace mandatory ?
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:14:40AM -0400, Dave wrote: I don't believe handling the register nemespace is mandatory. Can somebody back me up on this? Handling _any_ namespace isn't mandatory, unless it's necessary. Handling a namespace _correctly_ is 'mandatory'. IMHO philosophically dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Multiple elements within IQs
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 09:51:05PM -0600, David Waite wrote: says that is legal :-) It also says that having a query and an error is illegal, which the server already does. I'd say that was a 'bug' in the draft :-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber and oob
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 08:10:23PM +0100, Rico -mc- Gloeckner wrote: Now, i thought, its an x Namespace, so it would be appropriate to get the whole jabber:x:oob Entitity via: my @mxspace = $message-GetX() || ; I expected any Ref to handle the OOB Data, but all i got was a simple 1. Since iam still a bit of unexperienced in advanced Perl Techniques i tried to change the Context, i.e. to Scalar, Array and Hash, but none seemed to work. Also trying to directly access the $message Object with Methods which are valid for jabber:x:oob Objects failed, ofcourse. Hi after the above line, all you need is something like this: $mxspace[0]-GetURL() and $mxspace[0]-GetDesc() to access the two bits of info carried in the x:oob extension dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Perl Headline Delivery script Error?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:46:43AM +0530, Gunjan Kakani wrote: Hi, I was experimenting with the Perl Headline Delivery script written by DJ Adams, from Fun with Jabber articles. But the script when executed gives error as following... Can't use string(3C924DDA) as a HASH ref while strict refs in use at /usr/lib/perl5/./Jabber.pm line 588. I checked with the changes made in the Net::Jabber module since this script was written, but those changes could not solve this problem, since this problem occures in sending the presence at $Connection-PresenceSend() method. If I uncomment this method and produce the log, its working perfect, just that is is not sending messages to subscribers, since they dont know the presence of the headline deliverer. Hello Gunjan This is a well-known (well, I thought so :-) problem due to how Net::Jabber has changed over the course of releases (for the better, of course). The significant release change was, as Piers has already correctly pointed out (thanks dude :-), from 1.0020 to 1.0021, where a new value is passed first to all callbacks. I wrote an article last year [1] which explains what's going on - please let know if you have any questions about it. Just now, to test, I downloaded the headline script from the article's page [2], made the (one-word) change as described in the article, and it solved the problem. Cheers dj [1] http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/nj10021.html [2] http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/headlines.html ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Perl Headline Delivery script Error?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:10:39PM +, Stephen Allsopp wrote: On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:36:31 -0700 Nicholas Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know you could talk directly with the developer who's code is in question instead of asking a large selection of people that might not have even looked at Net::Jabber :) Just a thought ;) Gunjan, I don't think it's the Net::Jabber code that's at fault here. What it sounds like is that you've given the Send the wrong type of argument. When I set up presence (this is based on examples from the book), I create a Net::Jabber::Presence object, fill it appropriately, and pass it to $connection-Send() (not PresenceSend). It works for me. It's a 'wrong type of argument' problem, but not with Send(); in this case it's with the new() method of Net::Jabber::Presence() - called in the handle_presence() callback in the script. As Piers, and the nj10021.html article, has already mentioned, what is happening is that Net::Jabber is now sending two values to the callbacks - the first being a session ID, the second being the one that we really want to pass to the new() method. Pre-1.0021, it just sent the latter value. Also, be aware of a few things in Programming Jabber: for one, it's got *lots* of typos and errata. I haven't found anything yet that affects me in the code examples, but there is always the possibility that something has gone amiss. I suggest you check the Errata page for the book on the O'Reilly website. Also, as you have already pointed out, the Net::Jabber libs are a moving target, as is Jabber itself, to some extent. Stephen - I try to check the Errata page regularly, but please don't hesitate to bug me by email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with anything you find and want to ask about or thwap me over the head about :-) Cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] module development
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:02:29AM -0500, Glenn MacGregor wrote: For that job you need to use a jsm module, which is build into jsm.so. Depending on where you place your load configuration, you can receive every packet going through the server. Well, that's not entirely true :-) If comp1.localhost sends a message to comp2.localhost, it goes directly there, does not pass through the JSM, does not collect 200 pounds. In the general scheme of things, although the JSM is a significant part of many a typical Jabber, it is, at the end of the day, just another component. The backbone will deliver a chunk according to who it's addressed to - the JSM has an address just as much as the comp2.localhost component (in the above example) does. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] vCard DTD?
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:42:40PM -0500, Julian Missig wrote: Note that vcard-temp is version 2.0, not 3.0. That is one of the worst self-perpetuating typo I've ever seen ;) (DJ's book even says 3.0. Ugh.) :-/ Sorry It's changed now for the next print run Thanks Julian for pointing it out earlier dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] JECL README
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:26:54PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: FYI, I've put together the beginnings of a README for JECL. It's in CVS here: http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/jecl/ Hey, nice work. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 08:46:28AM -0500, Jim Seymour wrote: Lastly, in any event, it seems to me the client code will have to know what version of the server it's dealing with so it can know what is supported and what is not. (E.g.: 1.4.1 won't support invisible, 1.4.2 does.) Is there a way to fetch the server's release level? Sending a query like this iq type='get' to='jabber.org' query xmlns='jabber:iq:version'/ /iq will get you the version. Of the server. Well, of the JSM, which is what you want.[1] cheers dj [1]hendiadys is alive and well ;-) ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Help needed - PLEASE!
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:54:16AM -0500, Vernon wrote: I have posted repeatedly to the conference room and it seems as if either no one knows the answer or no one wants to respond (hope I didn't over extend my welcome). In any event I cannot seem to get the conference rooms to work any where but internally. When I try to get to conference.jabber.org I cannot. Nor can I use the find option, all of which returns a 502 error message, Server not found, which doesn't make any sense to me since I can telnet from the box to that server, I can also telnet externally into the box through port 5269, the jabber.xml is fine as I use in on another box that I setup and it works there. I also get the same error message when I try to use the MSN or icq transports. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as I have now been working on this same problem for nearly a week. Ok, I may have missed some questions/answers on this already, so sorry if this is repeat stuff... Are you trying to get to conferencing.jabber.org from a client connected to jabber.org or connected to your.own.server? If the latter, can your server see / connect to any external Jabber server/services? If so, is it just a conference room join that's not happening, or can't you do a (e.g.) version query on the conferencing component either? If you're connecting from your own server, are there any clues in the debug logs? cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] 1.4 Services Daemon
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:00:59AM -0800, mj wrote: Can I write a service in java, and register that service in 1.4 (Linux). I would like to incorporate my XML-RPC and/or SOAP proxy into the server. Questions.. 1) Can I create custom namespace for the services. 2) Are the messages passed over to the registered services or are the tied internally to the sockets on the server? I guess I could rephrase this as: Does the 1.4 server support java plugin outside service. Hi Michael What I think you want to do is write a component, that plugs into the jabberd server. The most common / flexible form of a component is one that exists as a separate process and makes a socket connection to the Jabber server. As far as getting the messages passed to the service, it's down to how the messages are addressed. Each component has its own address. Btw, there's already some stuff for XML-RPC over Jabber (Jabber-RPC) and SOAP, that you might want to look at (implemented in Perl) Jabber::RPC SOAP::Lite cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Resources and Priorities Questions
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:35:42PM -0700, David Waite wrote: I'm not sure, but I thought priority ties were decided by whichever changed presence last. It's the most recent connection, as it's based on how the sessions are managed (stored) for an active user. They're stored in a pushdown stack, most recent on top (first), and the algorithm [1] that determines the primary session for a user, for example, is written such that the most recent session (i.e. connection) will win, as it gets retrieved first and none of the other (older) sessions will beat it if they all have the same prio. [1] see js_session_primary() cheerio for now dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber server hostname and JIDs
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:07:01PM +1100, Robert Norris wrote: 3. Hack JID rewriting stuff into the JSM, so that any to/from attributes get rewritten to what I want them to be. It already does this, in the pthcsock element in the c2s config just add: alias to=server.name/ It's ugly, but it does all the magic to/from replacing so that things work just like you want :) The above is the default one, you can also have multiple alias to=real.serverwhat.client.uses/alias in there. That's interesting to know. It's pretty disgusting (as most hacks of this type are), and it still has the problem that the client thinks its JID is one thing while the rest of the network knows it as something Yes. This is the problem with alias/ - it wasn't very well known early on in the stages of client development, so it wasn't implemented (AFAIK) as widely as one would have liked. (I am just as guilty - sjabber was written before I knew much about the full server config options). dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber server redirection
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 03:33:49PM -0600, Dave Dykstra wrote: Also, that still doesn't completely solve the problem, as Thomas Parslow pointed out; I think it would also take a couple more client changes. The c2s SRV record in the DNS could allow a client to automatically discover its server name, but there still needs to be a way to tell the client that that server is an alias for company.com. Exchange Instant Messenger Would the alias/ config tag help here? Perhaps it would; although I'm not sure that it's widely supported right now... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Conferencing WOES
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 06:37:36PM -0500, Vernon wrote: I am trying to setup Jabber on our servers and have had some success, but also some problems. I have conferencing installed and did a make on the conference.so, which does exist. I've set things up exactly as said in the README file but when trying to connect using MyJabber I get Not Implemented. How can I resolve this issue? Hi If it's exactly as in the README, then you have two errors (two typos unfortunately) - the directory name is conference-0.4.1 (not conference) and the namespace should be jabber:config:conference. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Problem to block a user
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:17:43PM -0300, German Pablo de la Cruz wrote: Hi everybody! I have a problem with this. I want to implement a service in my client to block a user like MSN messenger. I see that a lot of client use the Message filters might help you here. You can define rules to check for and act upon (e.g. discard) incoming messages. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: Re: [JDEV] Request for help
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 02:53:47PM +, Al Sutton wrote: ... If you wish to continue this conversion please do so off this list, Yes please chaps, I think somewhere other than jdev is the best place for you both to continue this discussion. Thanks. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Using jabber as a central server for an Intranet
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:06:51AM +0530, Ritu Khetan wrote: Hi Dj, You are certainly missing the point here.Let me explain it again: I want to have a central jabber server[exposed to the Internet] which would take care of offline messages,etc for other locations which are offline, as I had mentioned earlier, these servers do not have dedicated connections, so they might be available online off and on.THis central server would therefore forward messages to a particular location whenever it is online. So, in short, I dont want any of the locations to interact directly, but to send messages via Ah, ok, I get you now. I thought you meant that all the servers were on the same physical internal network. If they're on different transient connections, there's nothing out of the box on the open source server (there may be something in the Jabber Inc version, I dunno) that will enable you to use a Jabber server as an intermediate 'hop' and have it retry (like email). (It's a different story if the different locations are just client connections, of course). Then again, there's nothing stopping you writing a component to do this, sort of a 'delivery' component... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] sending/receiving arbitrary XML content with Net::Jabber
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:00:08AM +, Mark Cheverton wrote: Just a heads up on this one, I would also be interested in the agreed best way to do this. I notice things like XML-RPC just define a new namespace, is this the best way or maybe just dump it in a message? I'd like to use jabber as a transport for arbitary XML messages. Well, technically you could do either, although I'd go for the former as it's how Jabber was intended to be used. You can define an arbitrary namespace and carry your XML in that. (Ref below - must've missed/forgotten this one: Jan Peter - I haven't used Net::Jabber for a while, so can't remember off the top of my head; but how about using a 'wrapper' type X extension to hold whatever RDF you want (i.e. two layers)? Cheers dj -Mark On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 14:14, Jan Peter Hecking wrote: Hi, does someone know whether it is possible to send/receive arbitrary XML content with Net::Jabber? I am using Jabber to send RDF (Resource Description Format) content between clients and would like to use Net::Jabber for that purpose. I can get the received RDF content using the GetXML method but unfortunately there is no equivalent SetXML method. And I can't use the Net::Jabber::X extension mechanisms via DefineNamespace since I don't know a priori what Namespaces the RDF content might contain. Anyone have an idea how to solve this problem? ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] sending/receiving arbitrary XML content with Net::Jabber
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:44:06PM +0100, Jan Peter Hecking wrote: Anyway I've found another solution to my problem: I'm using Jabber::Connection instead. ;-) /me grins Ok, that's cool. I wanted to suggest that, but didn't want to appear biased :-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Using jabber as a central server for an Intranet
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:18:05PM +0530, Ritu Khetan wrote: Hi all, We are looking at a solution wherein one Jabber server [exposed to the Internet] acts as a central server and many other Jabber servers located at the various locations of the organisation which do not have dedicated IP addresses send mesages to each other via this central server. Can someone suggest how can we go about doing this...??? Hi Ritu I'm not sure I quite understand what you want to do; if all you want is for the different Jabber servers on your internal network to talk to one another, then there's nothing special that you need... Or am I missing the point? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] JUD Example
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 01:23:32PM -0500, Michael Bauer wrote:
Anyone have a simple on how to query a JUD, either using Perl or PHP?
Something using DJ's new Perl tools would be most cool.
Hi Michael
How about this for starters?
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
use Jabber::Connection;
use Jabber::NodeFactory;
use Jabber::NS qw(:all);
my $jud = 'users.jabber.com';
my $nf = new Jabber::NodeFactory;
my $c = new Jabber::Connection(server = 'jabber.host.com');
$c-connect or die Cannot connect;
$c-auth('user','password','resource');
my $iq = $nf-newNode('iq');
$iq-attr('type', IQ_GET);
$iq-attr('to', $jud);
my $query = $iq-insertTag('query', NS_SEARCH);
my $result = $c-ask($iq);
foreach my $field ($result-getTag('query')-getChildren) {
print $field-name, \n;
}
$c-disconnect;
Hope that helps
dj
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Re: [JDEV] Foreign protocol transports using Jabber::Connection?
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 05:04:33PM -, Ben Schumacher wrote: That being said, there is not reason you'd have to do threading for a transport. You just need to be able to associate each ICQ connection with Agreed. No requirement to use threads. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Foreign protocol transports using Jabber::Connection?
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 06:42:51PM +0800, Migs Paraz wrote: any other Jabber::Connection users out there? Me! Me! ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] sub agents?
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:18:08AM -0700, Brian Lalor wrote: Can someone give me a quick overview of subagents? how do you set up the jabber.xml (or do you?) to let it know that they exist, and how should the master agent behave? Hi Brian by subagents, do you mean components that connect to a Jabber server? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] file transfer
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:58:31PM -0600, Dave Waite wrote: I'm pretty sure that it will let a probe through, but since it is from a user@host/resource instead of a user@host, it will always be denied. Actually, it's odder than that. If you stamp your presence/ with a from attribute yourself, and specify a resourceless value, it will work. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] How to find the presence of a user at server side (was : How to find whether a user is offline from user.xml file)
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 11:17:46AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a server component, is there any reason why this won't work? That way you can stay an external component, and not have to futz with JSM. presence type='probe' to='user@host' from='mycomponent'/ Currently, for this to work, the prober still needs to have a presence subscription relationship with the probee. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] file transfer
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:12:18PM +0200, Max Horn wrote: It used to be something for the server only, not sure if you nowadays may use it. However, in a correctly designed client, you *never* have to use this! The current jabber.org will let a probe through from a client, although you shouldn't do it, as it's for the server to use on your behalf, and may be blocked in future releases... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] Discussion: SOAP Over Jabber
Hi all in the same vein as Jabber-RPC, we're now turning our attention to SOAP over Jabber (or 'Jabber-SOAP'). I've put down a few thoughts on the rpc-jig mailing list [1] - please pop over there and have a look to see what you think. All input appreciated! Thanks folks dj [1] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/rpc-jig ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] help, using jabber to transmit custom xml
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 05:58:54PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote: All this said, I am extremely new to jabber; and know very little about the underlying protocols, extensibility of jabberd via extension messages, subscription procedures to get data@cluster to send to both gui@cluster, alarm@cluster, and any other clients that I will cook up in the future. So here are some of the questions I have: Hi, well it all sounds really exciting, and welcome to the Jabber community! Basically, carrying your data in an extension qualified by a separate namespace (or namespaces) is exactly the right thing to do. I'll attempt to answer some of the questions.. - If you were tasked with making jabber perform the tasks that I've loosely outlined, how would you do it? The same way - define an extension by means of a new namespace, and define what the contents of that extension shoudl look like. *What* namespace, is a different question (and a bit of a sidetrack) - the ones beginning jabber: are reserved; but it's certainly possible to form an 'interest group' to crystallize an 'official' extension - see the info on JIGs and JEPs on http://foundation.jabber.org. - Exactly what needs to be added to jabberd server to handle the addition of jabber:x:cluster and jabber:x:cluster:alarm? Absolutely nothing. The Jabber server will willingly shunt your custom (well-defined) XML data here and there. - It would appear that jabber seems to have an extensibility crisis; people say that it is possible; the extensibility I need seems to be in Jabber, but there's A LOT that one needs to wade through in order to figure out how this might be accomplished. Well, if you're happy reading Perl, you could look at an implementation of Jabber-RPC - this is similar to what you want to do - transport custom data (in this case, XML-RPC payloads) over Jabber. There's always a decision to be made on what core element you transmit your data with; you use the message example above, which is perfectly fine; Jabber-RPC uses the iq element as it's more of a request/response kind of thing. Go for it - it's actually very straight forward, and you've come to the right place for help. - I intend to transmit anywhere from 12MB to 50MB of data an hour, to multiple jabber clients, at intervals as quick as every second; effectively creating a contiguous stream of data, does jabberd v1.4.X allow for such excessive data transmition? Or will I hit throttling heuristics that have been put in place in jabberd? These throttling mechanisms are tweakable, so it's pretty much down to you. - I want the data@cluster client to essentially push the cluster xml to all subscribed clients that have the required subscription presence (I think? =) What is the best way to do this? Start a stream and close it only when the jabber client exits? Well, the two things are pretty mutual anyway ;-) On pub/sub there's some recent movements - check out the news on http://dev.jabber.org I'll stop there, mostly cos I have to go, but also to give others the chance to contribute ;-) hope that helps for a starter-answer dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] XML::Stream - Can't call method flush on an undefined value
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 06:39:06PM +0800, Miguel A.L. Paraz wrote: Hi, I hope this is the right place for Net::Jabber and XML::Stream questions. I'm changing the examples to make some bots for testing Jabber load. I wrote a script to log into Jabber 10 times using random accounts that were pre-registered. It consistently fails on the 3rd login with: Can't call method flush on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/XML/Stream.pm line 1260. Random guess: flush is a method called on a socket. If a connection attempt is being refused by the Jabber server due to rating or karma, which might be the case here (consistently fails on the 3rd login), then that socket might not actually exist in Perl space, hence the undefined value. To test out this theory, stick some sleep statements in there, also check the error.log from the Jabber server for indications of socket limiting etc. What version of XML::Stream are you using? There's a flush call on line 1258 in 1.12 of XML/Stream.pm ... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] phenomenon associated with frequent connections
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 09:40:31PM -0700, Charles Owen wrote:
Hello all.
Consider this (admittedly pathological) test program:
for ( i = 1 to 10 ) {
connect to Jabber server;
authenticate;
pull roster information;
disconnect from Jabber server;
sleep; (optional)
}
If I do not put the thread to sleep at the bottom of the loop, I run into
trouble on
the sixth iteration -- and the trouble seems to arise consistently on the
sixth iteration. What
actually happens is that on the sixth pass, I am able to establish a socket
connection,
but as soon as I send an authentication packet, the server sends a TCP FIN
segment
indicating that it's not going to interact with me anymore. After a few
This sounds very much like the rate limiting mechanism kicking in.
The rate/ directive in the configuration (jabber.xml) allows the
server admin to throttle the rate of connection on a socket. I think
the default might even look like this:
rate points='5' time='25'/
which says throttle the socket if more than 5 connection attempts are
made in 25 seconds. The throttle is relaxed after that 25 second period.
dj
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Re: [JDEV] phenomenon associated with frequent connections
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 09:45:13AM -0700, Jason Reineri wrote: This sounds very much like the rate limiting mechanism kicking in. The rate/ directive in the configuration (jabber.xml) allows the server admin to throttle the rate of connection on a socket. I think the default might even look like this: rate points='5' time='25'/ which says throttle the socket if more than 5 connection attempts are made in 25 seconds. The throttle is relaxed after that 25 second period. I think the above sentence should read: throttle the soxket if more than 5 connection attempts are made in 25 seconds *from the same ip address*. If No ... A socket is specific to an IP address, so that last bit is redundant... ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] forms
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:54:46PM +0200, Sebastiaan 'CBAS' Deckers wrote: Hello, IMO, the forms JEP are incredibly simplistic. I honestly don't see how one could build a decent form (I mean the layout) with the scheme you suggested, only a long list of input fields/boxes/etc. Why shouldn't Jabber use XHTML/CSS to display forms? That way it fits into Jabber's XML tags and we can guarantee forms will look (almost) identical on every user's display. btw, why don't you include an editable pull-down box in the JEP? (I wish they had put them into the HTML spec!) Oh, I think you left out file-selection boxes ... those can be quite useful. Hi It may be worth having a word with the folks on the forms JIG the info for the mailing list was in Peter's post, or can be got from the http://dev.jabber.org page. All discussion contributions gratefully accepted :-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Re: [jadmin] Help on developing server side module.
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:03:43PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Right now most people write server-side components in C, C++, or Java. For C people seem to mostly roll their own, for Java folks seem to use JabberBeans (http://jabberbeans.org/) as an underlying library (or just write it all from scratch), and for C++ people are starting to use the JECL libraries that Dizzy developed (http://jabber.tigris.org/). Ahem! Also Perl, using Net::Jabber, Jabber::Connection or Jabber::JAX::Component. :-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Conference messages cut off
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:34:37PM -0400, Horace Sequeira wrote: We traced down the cause of the problem, if you like, we could share that with you. It might save you a little time.We were not sure if posting the details on jdev was the apropriate thing to do. IMHO that was exactly the right thing to do. Thanks again, too! dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 10:44:15AM -0600, Dave Waite wrote: I'll take a stab; how about: [stab] How is that? :-) Really good :-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:36:01PM -0700, Ragavan S wrote: How is this different from 'hotkeys'(like Alt - for back on a browser, or Ctl-c to cut) that most(?) applications come with? Because there's no overhead (screen real-estate or otherwise) that's to be lost to 'useless' menus and so on. From my (perhaps limited) windows experience, there are more GUI apps that do the hotkey stuff badly than well. I guess I'm thinking of the mainframe environments I grew up with - ISPF, SDSF, and so on. Even today, I haven't seen an environment, graphical or no, to beat them. And they were 80x25 text format too. A fantastic combination of hotkeys and small commands entered on a command line. hotkeys, will soon start using the one they prefer and are used to. But, this doesn't mean the client shdn't give them the choice to do that. Absolutely. Flexibility is great. But not at any price. dj 'old-git' ISPF editor fan ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 07:44:21PM +1000, Michael Brown wrote: jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?action=chat # join a chat room vs jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?action=join # join a chat room jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?action=chat joining a chatroom could get confusing. I would have assumed it would have started a line-by-line Yes, hence the forced comparison ;-) private chat (as opposed to sending a normal message- see http://docs.jabber.org/jpg/html/main.html#REFMESSAGE for details). Having two chat types in Jabber does confuse things a little... There's only one chat type, but it's used in different contexts (contexts that are mostly layers that we impose with our understanding, rather than technical contexts) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Design Tutorial
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:53:46PM +1000, Michael Brown wrote: I'd have to respectfully disagree there... I don't want a one-size-fits-all world, and I relish the diversity of clients available right now. I didn't mean to imply that they should all be the same, but there is some need for *some* clients that behave in a similar manner, and provide the same function as the commercial clients in order to convert the general public. True. I just thought it necessary to make sure my stick was still firmly in the mud. :-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 09:28:40AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: So then we could have two queries/qualifiers: type= indicates the type of ID (person, chat, ...?) If missing, 'person' is assumed. Could we link it with the browse types in the jabber:iq:browse namespace? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Anonymous GroupChat
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:28:32AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. There are IRC clients like this. The current 'Conference' protocol does not work from the Java applet Jabber client, and all Jabber client connections have to have an account --- you could pre-generate a set of guest01-guest99 accounts, but you'd still need a flash/java/etc client that would work with the conference protocol. I might be jumping in here out of turn, but Jer's been doing some work on anonymous stuff - I think it's in CVS. It might be relevant to this discussion... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] URL form of JID?
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:48:52AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: Is there a standard way to represent a JID as a URL (analogous to a mailto: URL)? The most basic form would be something like jabber:user@host/resource and the default action when clicked would be to send an IM to that user. I do remember seeing examples of this in very old docu, it was something like your example, it could have been jabber://user@host/resouce but then I might be going mad. It occurs to me that a second form would be useful for conferences / chat-rooms, since the behavior of clicking the URL would be different (joining the room.) AIM, I believe, uses a ? attribute on the aim: URL to distinguish between these things. This is certainly an idea, but when you consider a conference room is just one of almost an infinite variety of types of things, each with their own default action, to attempt to make a distinction within the format is futile. That said, perhaps in a browsing situation, the type of thing that a particular JID represents may be easier to discern because of its context within an iq:browse structure... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: Thanks DJ! - RE: [JDEV] Some help for a Newbie?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:51:46PM -0500, Shane Breland wrote: DJ, I searched through the debug code and you are right there are no mod_xml lines anywhere. I'm not sure why not. I downloaded Jabber Server 1.4.1 and ... Tue Sep 18 13:27:22 2001 base_load.c:105 base_load_config processing configurat ion load main='jsm' jsm./jsm/jsm.so/jsm mod_echo./jsm/jsm.so/mod_echo mod_roster./jsm/jsm.so/mod_roster mod_time./jsm/jsm.so/mod_time mod_vcard./jsm/jsm.so/mod_vcard mod_announce./jsm/jsm.so/mod_announce mod_agents./jsm/jsm.so/mod_agents mod_admin./jsm/jsm.so/mod_admin mod_filter./jsm/jsm.so/mod_filter mod_presence./jsm/jsm.so/mod_presence mod_auth_digest./jsm/jsm.so/mod_auth_digest mod_auth_0k./jsm/jsm.so/mod_auth_0k mod_register./jsm/jsm.so/mod_register mod_log./jsm/jsm.so/mod_log Hi again Ok, there are a few mod_'s missing from this list. The complete list of JSM modules in the 1.4 server (cut'n'paste from an old jabber.xml lying around) looks like this: mod_echo./jsm/jsm.so/mod_echo mod_roster./jsm/jsm.so/mod_roster mod_time./jsm/jsm.so/mod_time mod_vcard./jsm/jsm.so/mod_vcard mod_last./jsm/jsm.so/mod_last mod_version./jsm/jsm.so/mod_version mod_announce./jsm/jsm.so/mod_announce mod_agents./jsm/jsm.so/mod_agents mod_browse./jsm/jsm.so/mod_browse mod_admin./jsm/jsm.so/mod_admin mod_filter./jsm/jsm.so/mod_filter mod_offline./jsm/jsm.so/mod_offline mod_presence./jsm/jsm.so/mod_presence mod_auth_plain./jsm/jsm.so/mod_auth_plain mod_auth_digest./jsm/jsm.so/mod_auth_digest mod_auth_0k./jsm/jsm.so/mod_auth_0k mod_log./jsm/jsm.so/mod_log mod_register./jsm/jsm.so/mod_register mod_xml./jsm/jsm.so/mod_xml and the culprit here is the missing mod_xml module. I'd suggest that if you can, you add the mod_xml./jsm/jsm.so/mod_xml line in and see what happens. This should enable the JSM to service the IQ-get in the iq:private namespace. Good luck! dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber Account Administration tools?
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:21:01PM -0400, mitchell balsam wrote: A few questions: 1) Do any GUI tools exist for jabber account administration? Not that I know of. Anyway, who needs a GUI? (grin/) 2) What's the best way to script the creation of 50+ accounts? Probably use one of the libraries (e.g. JabberPy, Net::Jabber, etc) and write a script with those. Remember that you can create 1 account within a single client-server connection - you don't have to build a connection for each iq:register... 3) What's the status of LDAP support? See references to mod_auth_ldap in this list. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Weird: email getting deleted from Jabber vCard
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 03:11:31PM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: You'll note that the vCard content is identical except that the email address itself is missing. These are exact transcripts I just pasted in from my client's XML log, so it definitely looks like the server's fault. Why would this be happening? Anyone else seen this? Not that it helps much ;-), but I'll say that's certainly odd. I've just tried to reproduce the problem, sticking as close to your example as possible, but I can't lose the email address. Gut feelings tell me that it's got to be something to do with the fact that the address lives as CDATA in a tag, along with other tags. Not illegal by any means, but it could catch a programmer out when using xmlnode, the Jabber server node lib... I'll keep my eye out for symptoms here. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: Thanks DJ! - RE: [JDEV] Some help for a Newbie?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:30:17AM -0500, Shane Breland wrote: Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 io_select.c:339 io_main checking sockets ... Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 deliver.c:472 DELIVER 4:192.0.0.14 route to='[EMAIL PROTECTED]/81931C8' from='12@c2s/819B398'iq id='jabberim:prefs3293' type='get'query xmlns='jabber:iq:private'jabberIM xmlns='jabberim:prefs'//query/iq/route Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 deliver.c:344 delivering to instance 'sessions' Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 deliver.c:84 (8080488)incoming packet route to='[EMAIL PROTECTED]/81931C8' from='12@c2s/819B398'iq id='jabberim:prefs3293' type='get'query xmlns='jabber:iq:private'jabberIM xmlns='jabberim:prefs'//query/iq/route Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 users.c:147 js_user([EMAIL PROTECTED]/81931C8,80EE980) Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 mtq 80EF2B0 entering from pth Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 mtq 80EF2B0 queue call 8197820 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 sessions.c:290 THREAD:SESSION:FROM received a packet! Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:124 mapi_call 1 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:147 MAPI 81934D8 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:147 MAPI 81934E8 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:147 MAPI 8193508 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:147 MAPI 8193530 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:147 MAPI 8193540 Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 modules.c:163 mapi_call returning unhandled Tue Sep 18 09:58:05 2001 deliver.c:262 deliver(to[192.0.0.14],from[[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Work],type[4],packet[iq id='jabberim:prefs3293' type='get' from='[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Work' to='192.0.0.14'query xmlns='jabber:iq:private'jabberIM xmlns='jabberim:prefs'//query/iq]) Aha, this is very interesting The IQ-get comes in, and the JSM modules are called in turn (the MAPI lines). However, note the returning unhandled - no module was found that is willing to handle the query in the iq:private namespace. Normally, the mod_xml module should kick in here to handle the request, but it doesn't. I note from your jabber.xml below that you do have the mod_xml module specified in the load of JSM, so I'm a little surprised. This jabber.xml file matches what's in use with the currently running jabberd? Do you still have the first hundred or so lines of output from the debug log? This will show us if the mod_xml module was loaded correctly. In any case, it seems quite evident from this section of the debug that the query isn't being handled by the JSM and so is being re-tried by the delivery mechanism with the JID of the server itself. This is what I meant in my previous post about the oddness of the reply having a from attribute: SENT: iq id=jabberim:prefs5009 type=getquery xmlns=jabber:iq:privatejabberIM xmlns=jabberim:prefs//query/iq RECV: iq id='jabberim:prefs5009' type='error' from='192.0.0.14' to='[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Work'query xmlns='jabber:iq:private'jabberIM xmlns='jabberim:prefs'//queryerror code='404'Not Found/error/iq Of course, this isn't going to work either, so you get the error. So, there doesn't seem to be a mod_xml module ready to handle the query. Can you point to the debug log to show me that mod_xml is loading? Secondly, what version of the server are you running? I noticed some 'odd' lines in the debug log ... io_select.c lines, for example... Cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:35:03PM -0400, Rahul Dave wrote: Here's Jabber Weekly News Issue 1. Please complain, correct, update. I will send it out to news sources and create a RSS channel for it after the meeting today, presuming we are having one, are we? Rahul Nice one, Rahul [...] DJ Adams announced the Jabber HTTP Gateway (http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/httpgate.html) which builds on the Jabber-RPC Spec. This spec can be found in the Jabber RPC folder of the new jabnews site: http://jabnews.manilasites.com/directory/20. There are actually two things related to Jabber-RPC: - Jabber::RPC this is an implementation of the Jabber-RPC formalisation, in Perl, that provides client and server stubs with which you can write Jabber-RPC requesters (in the form of Jabber clients) and Jabber-RPC responders (in the form of Jabber clients or Jabber components). http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/ - Jabber::RPC::HTTPgate this is a separately installable module that complements Jabber::RPC and provides a two-way gateway between the Jabber-based and HTTP-based XML-RPC worlds. It allows Jabber-based requesters (i.e. Jabber-RPC clients) to call HTTP-based responders (i.e. 'traditional' XML-RPC web-server-based servers), and HTTP-based requesters (i.e. 'traditional' XML-RPC clients) to call Jabber-based responders (i.e. Jabber-RPC servers). http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/ I think that JabNews is becoming the 'public view' of Jabber activity - maybe it's worth having a quick word with Dizzyd about content coordination? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Bug? OOB URLs lost in groupchat messages
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:11:52AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: ... But the other client would receive from the conference server: message type=groupchat from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/5789578957239857 bodyEveryone, check this out/body x xmlns=jabber:x:ooburl/url/x /message Hi Jens it's odd. For what it's worth: I've just tried it using both the groupchat and conferencing protocols on my test setup and don't experience this problem... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Strange server behaviour
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:34:16AM +0200, Gerard BUNEL wrote: What's 'packet_to'? That's simply a global variable containing the service name I Also noticed this logs from the server: 20010629T05:25:55: [warn] (-internal): jsm: Invalid Recipient, returning data presence from='[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Jabber Instant Messenger'statusOnline/statuspriority1/priority/presence Could it be that packet_to is NULL in some cases, causing this error? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber 1.0023: Can't use string as a HASH ref
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 03:24:17AM +0200, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: all, i am playing around with DJ Adams Headline script from http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/headlines.html i have Net::Jabber 1.0023 and get Can't use string (3B393B46) as a HASH ref while strict refs in use at /usr/local/ActivePerl-5.6/lib/site_perl/5.6.1/Net/Jabber.pm line 583. hi http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/nj10021.html might give you some pointers. The API changed over 1.0020 - 1.0021 - 1.0022/3 . The string looks suspiciously like a $sid. dj from his sickbed :-( ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Strange server behaviour
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 06:28:29PM +0200, Gerard BUNEL wrote:
Hello,
I need some help on server side development.
I've writen a module in replacement to the standard mod_presence
The objective of this module is to route presence messages to a service
wich is writen in Java
using jabberbeans and the CONNECT mode.
So I wrote function to route some mesages
void route_packet(mapi m) {
xmlnode node = xmlnode_dup(m-packet-x);
node = xmlnode_wrap(node, route);
xmlnode_put_attrib(node, to, packet_to);
deliver(dpacket_new(node), m-si-i);
}
Hi
What's 'packet_to'?
dj
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Re: [JDEV] Passwords
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 11:27:31AM -0400, Tony Byers wrote: Hello, Could anyone tell me why the server needs to pass through authreg.c twice for a sign on? And why does it have the username but not the password on the first pass? Lastly, is there any way to get the password on the first pass? I would like to see if the user comes up as null, then do an automatic register (assuming they pass a kerberos check). If anyone knows of a better way to do this, I would really appreciate any advice. (1) twice, because of an iq-get to discover authentication methods available, followed by an iq-set to send the credentials (2) it only has the username on the first pass as this is the iq-get, and the username is needed (nothing else) to look up the user's spool data, so the auth modules can see if the appropriate data is stored for that user and that method (3) auto-register, comes up as null? - hmm. If a user doesn't exist, you get a 401 unauthorized, not a null, on an authentication (iq-set) attempt. One way would be to look into how iq:register works - e.g. if you try and register an *existing* user you get an error (409 Not Available, I think) whereas if the user doesn't exist, the registration is successful. I'm not sure this is a good idea anyway, I'm just thinking aloud. There's also the auth/ 'hack' which allows you to substitute your own-rolled authentication mechanism(s), which you might want to look into, as it would give you more control over things. Hope that helps dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] [jadmin] Firewall/NAT -- where must be put the alias/ ?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:22:29AM +0200, Riviere Stéphane wrote: I tried the alias/ trick on my 1.4.1 Jabber Server, but the tag is not recognized. ... So, where do I put the alias directive ? ;-) Here's an example. service id=c2s load pthsock_client./pthsock/pthsock_client.so/pthsock_client /load pthcsock xmlns='jabber:config:pth-csock' authtime/ alias to='hostname.com'someotherhostname.com/alias karma ... An empty alias tag (alias/) isn't going to do very much ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Passwords, zero-K and storage
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:35:45PM -0500, Iain Shigeoka wrote: It would seem that the only real way of doing this is to store the plaintext password and user name _somewhere_ so you can move records from one authentication system to another. (storing plain passwords, hashes, or 0k sequences). At least with the current system. Now the implementation may encrypt all these passwords so only the server can access them, or perhaps a migration utility in the server, etc... but at some point, somewhere, the plaintext passwords will need to exist. Otherwise, when you plug in a next generation authentication system, you'll need to have everyone re-send or regenerate their password info. Am I missing something? I don't think so, but I've never spent that much time thinking about security. To me, requiring a password re-send is less heinous than storing the password in plaintext anywhere. ... So far this has not been an issue because we've always had the plaintext password on the server which served as the common data format for password information (method 1 with plaintext being the special password storage format... ha ha ha). It was easy to upgrade to 0k because we could upgrade people on the server using the plaintext password. However, I expect that many/most would like to use the 0k advantage of no plaintext password at all on the server. If this is the case, then the next auth protocol (if there will be one) is in for some trouble if we don't address things sometime. Sure. I guess the concept of wanting to be able to change from one method to another when the starting method is 'proper' 0k *without* involving the user simply does not compute. side noteIt would be nice nice for server's to be backward compatible and still support digest if not plaintext passwords. In this case, the I'm assuming that the plaintext storage is necessary for digest to ensure security over the wire (as opposed to on the server) - so that different tokens can be used to keep the digest 'fresh' and different. That I think is why mod_plain_digest is merely a 'parasite' on mod_plain_auth - it lets it do all the work, except for the glory-bit at the credential checking stage. suppose we should wait until the Foundation/JEP/JIG etc is all settled first... *sigh*/side note I'm sure that this and other issues that may have fallen between the cracks will find a good home with the Foundation and the Jabelin project. I only wish my JabberC learning would go faster so I could help out more :-/ dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Passwords, zero-K and storage
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:31:07PM -0600, David Waite wrote: If someone really wants passwords to be secure, they need to use a secure method of account registration, authentication, and renewal in the case of 0k. Yes, this seems to be the weakspot of 0k in general, the user-initiated password setting and changing... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Doc on MIO API for Transport dev available?
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 08:52:39AM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Yes, sorry about that, I removed that document from my website, but all it contained was a redirection to the documents Keith Minkler created at the URL below. Wow. And I thought it was going to be the revealing moment showing you were a closet C hacker after all ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Doc on MIO API for Transport dev available?--- Modul e API or Transport API exists ?
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 05:52:33PM +0200, Riviere Stéphane wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the answer, the Jabberd API will be very helpful !
My main question is (in fact) : when the server loads a module, which
function(s) does it call on that module. I suppose there must be some sort
of Module API :-)
I watched at the different modules and saw they all have a function with a
mreturn myfunction (jsmi si)
prototype. That function registers functions (using the js_mapi_register or
js_mapi_session) which have a protype like :
mreturn myhandlingfunction (mapi m, void *arg)
The JSM modules all follow the same pattern. The function that is called
when the module is loaded is the one specified in the load part of the
configuration, e.g.
load main=jsm
jsm./jsm/jsm.so/jsm
mod_echo./jsm/jsm.so/mod_echo
mod_roster./jsm/jsm.so/mod_roster
mod_time./jsm/jsm.so/mod_time
...
the tagname (e.g. 'mod_time') is the name of the function ('mod_time()')
called.
This function usually is to be found, by convention, at the end of the
source file, and returns a void:
void mod_xyz(jsmi si)
{
js_mapi_register(e_ ...)
...
}
This function registers handlers for the master events (e_SERVER,
e_AUTH, and so on). The e_SESSION master event has 'sub-events'
es_IN, es_OUT and so on (see jsm/jsm.h), and handlers for these
sub-events (session events) are set up in a beautifully fractal
way - the handler function for the e_SESSION event actually sets
handlers for the es_* events using js_mapi_session() :
mreturn xyz_abc(...)
{
js_mapi_session(es_ ...)
}
The rest of the functions do the actual work. You might want to
have a look at jsm/modules/mod_example.c as it's got some useful
comments in the code.
Good luck!
dj
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Re: [JDEV] Possible bug with ask='subscribe'
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 06:39:58PM -0400, Julian Missig wrote: When I do: iq type='set'query xmlns='jabber:iq:roster'item jid='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' name='julian-test'//query/iq ... No more ask='subscribe' ... It should not be the client's responsibility Hi Julian Is this against a ver 1.4 Jabber server? I suspect so because the 1.4 version of jsm/modules/mod_roster.c has, in the place relevant to what you're doing, this: /* copy the old stuff into the new one and insert it into the roster */ xmlnode_put_attrib(cur,subscription,xmlnode_get_attrib(item,subscription)); xmlnode_put_attrib(cur,subscribe,xmlnode_get_attrib(item,subscribe)); which is slightly wrong as subscribe isn't a valid attribute of item, and more importantly, the ask attribute isn't getting copied. It is fixed in 1.4.1 though: /* copy the old stuff into the new one and insert it into the roster */ xmlnode_put_attrib(cur,subscription,xmlnode_get_attrib(item,subscription)); xmlnode_put_attrib(cur,ask,xmlnode_get_attrib(item,ask)); Anyway, that's what I suspect it is. You never know though, I'm probably talking rubbish. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Getting a 404 trying to create a chat room with jabber:iq:conference
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:00:35AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: On Thursday, May 17, 2001, at 07:45 AM, DJ Adams wrote: I think you might need to send your presence to the room before the iq-set. Well, that made no sense to me -- the room doesn't even exist at this point since the set is what supposedly creates it -- but I can't deny that it worked! Thanks for the tip. I'll send Jeremie a note about the missing info in the Generic Conferencing draft. Who said it was supposed to make sense? ;-) It's in the draft proto if you read between the lines (a lot) - there's an example of joining an already-existing (could be pre-defined) room, and add that '2' to the other '2' from the old protocol (just send presence to a room to create it) and you get '5' :-) I'm glad it worked, anyway. But as mass says, it's still in flux. dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] All clear
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 07:27:42PM -0500, temas wrote: Interesting program, but I meant the current webboards/webboards system we have on the site now. Great! Looking forward to using the webboards via an NNTP interface - excellent. Thanks temas dj (it also means I can do that part of my reading more comfortably from my vt420 too ;-) ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Guaranteed message delivery (was: Unreliable?)
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 01:35:03PM -0500, Colin Madere wrote: You still maintain the ability to send message to clients that don't support your specialized x section, but you will need some way to know (which I believe there is a way to ask for someone's client type) to not wait for return receipts from those clients. You can send a jabber:iq:version query to get the basic client details but perhaps a browse would be a better way to implement discovery of things like this. Just thinking aloud... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Newbie
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:47:03PM -0400, Bill Farrell wrote: Could anyone share their experience in bringing up the latest version of conferencing and/or ICQ transport? I'd be a most grateful!! Hi Bill Any chance of posting your jabber.xml here so we could have a look? cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Jabber Test Suite on hold
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:13:36PM -0500, Dustin Puryear wrote: Dustin Puryear wrote: Colin Madere wrote: I believe I have active_jab, the main component of the test suite, pretty much working. However, I noticed I need a 1-second delay between logins (may need less, but I am only using second-resolution at this point) or I get errors. Also, I ended ripping out the karma code in Could this be the rate/ ? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] problem configuring jabber with conference
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:52:30PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have added conference to jabber, and made appended jabber.xml file to accomadate this change. Once I had done this, I could not load Jabber anymore. I get the error Configuaration parsing using jabber.xml. Any ideas on how I could check the XML file to see if I had made any mistake?..or what I am doing wrong?. Here is my Jabber.xml. Ok, I'll go for an easy one to work my way back into the list ;-) vCard/ FNConferencing Service/FN DESCThis service is for private cahtrooms./DESC URLhttp://localhost/URL /vCard change the first line in this chunk to vCard ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Proposed JPG Contents
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:14:09PM -0700, Robert Temple wrote: I often find that overlap is good in docs. Especially if the overlap is by two different people. If for some reason the first isn't clear, the 2nd often clears things up. Folks - I've been replying in docs-dev and avoiding this list for this thread - anyone object to us continuing the thread in docs-dev? http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/docs-dev cheers dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Net::Jabber problem
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 07:19:46PM +0200, Maciej Frankiewicz wrote: I installed Net::Jabber library and tried to run "component_exec.pl" script. What I got was: [root@foo examples]# ./component_exec.pl Can't locate object method "new" via package "Net::Jabber::Component" at ./compo nent_exec.pl line 11. what can be wrong? Look like the install didn't work properly, or you installed it in a 'non- standard' place. Do this perl -MNet::Jabber -e 'print $Net::Jabber::VERSION' - what do you get? dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Trouble with local JUD
Hi rjan In case you are still struggling (I don't see any further msgs in this thread) - I'll put in my two pence silly things out of the way first: are you sure the service id="jud"host. stuff isn't between XML comments (!-- ... --) so that the jabberd isn't able to find the instance definition? you refer to the 1.4 howto, so I assume you're installing JUD against 1.4, so the jud directory is normally jud-1.4/ - however I see you've used "jud/jud.so" in your examples... Is this OK? OK, now theory: the jud doesn't need to be resolvable as it's local(ly defined as a service component instance in the config). This suggests two things: (a) there shouldn't be any need to edit /etc/hosts with jud entries (b) the console log output that you quote suggests that it's trying to resolve the jud.vkhd name which suggests that it _hasn't_ found anything matching that locally (i.e. it's passed it to the dnsrv/dialback component). I've proved (a) to myself by installing jud without any hostname/DNS changes and it works, and (b) is just a theory, as I'm still learning of course :-) So it would seem to me the problem is that the JUD service definition is not getting recognised properly. Debug output (as temas suggests) by starting the server with -D and capturing STDERR would be very useful... dj (ready to be kicked for false assumptions...) ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] How to check users presence?
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:21:11AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: But the client shouldn't need to send a probe at all. The server will s/shouldn't need/ought not/ probe is for servers; clients shouldn't be doing them... send you presence elements from your subscribed buddies right after you log in, and whenever their status changes. All you need to do is listen for them. So long as you store the info when you get it ;-) dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Trouble with local JUD
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 12:28:57PM -0600, David Waite wrote: Sorry, I helped rjan out with his problem. The first problem was using the server name instead of another unique name (like 'jud.servername') The second problem was that there is a service block to add to the jsm block for reported services for browse and agents requests, and a service block for loading and running the jud. Both of these were in the JSM configuration, so the service was never being loaded. Cool. Thanks for letting me know. So my theory was right - jabberd was never able to load the service - not because it was commented out, but because it wasn't even 'there'. Yay! :-) dj Ok. Only another 201 unread to go ... ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Advertising Namespace
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:58:17AM -0600, Colin Madere wrote: ... URL of ad image target URL of ad duration title type (ad, promo, ???) but aren't sure how that message will get sent (whether it's an IQ or in an X or as was suggested here, OOB). So, thinking of Jabber as not just IM, what will be the most appropriate type of message for ads? Being in OOB doesn't preclude being in an IQ or X context - OOB qualifies both. Anyway, IMHO, taking this independently of anything, it would seem that OOB doesn't fit the bill as it only contains URL and DESC. So some ad-type namespace may be more appropriate... Of course, there's always the balance of new namespaces vs current client support... dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Browseing
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:44:12PM +0100, Thomas Parslow (PatRat) wrote: Hi, I know this is probably a bit of a silly question but how do I browse a servers services. I've tried various variations on: iq id="services" type="get" xmlns="jabber:iq:browse"service//iq I tried quite a few variations including using query as with jabber:iq:agents but none worked (I either got a user element or and error). How should I be doing it? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying Specify a to address in the iq-get, and use a query child element with the iq:browse namespace, like this example: iq type='get' to='jabber.org' query xmlns='jabber:iq:browse'/ /iq which is a browse request for the (top level) services on the jabber.org server. http://docs.jabber.org/draft-proto/html/browsing.html may help too. cheerio dj ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
Re: [JDEV] Where I can download XML::Stream 1.12?
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:45:41AM +0400, Vladimirr wrote: Yes, I am sure! Because I am talking not about last version of Net::Jabber on CPAN (1.0021, right), but about http://download.jabber.org/cvs/netjabber which is Version 1.0022 and requires XML::Stream 1.12 Aha - CVS huh? Well, at a guess, XML::Stream 1.12 is in CVS too ... /me does a cvs -z3 co xmlstream yup - 1.12. It's always best to use CVS directly (as opposed to the Web version) - see the warning at http://download.jabber.org/cvs/ http://docs.jabber.org/general/html/cvs.html in case you don't know this docu already. :-) DJ ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
