Re: [Jmol-users] silica nanoparticle

2014-06-20 Thread Egon Willighagen
Interesting use case!

Egon
http://enanomapper.net/

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Kazem Sepehrinia ksepehri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have made a silica nanoparticle using Materials Studio and I want to
 modify surface chemistry of it, I want to remove unwanted groups from the
 surface and create some new groups on the surface of nanoparticle in manner
 that matches with experimental data.
 Can I do that using Jmol? Do you have a better suggestion for me?

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Re: [Jmol-users] silica nanoparticle

2014-06-20 Thread Egon Willighagen
Bob,

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es wrote:
 I do not think that Jmol is your best tool for that, since I am
 guessing there will be a lot of (repetitive) silica groups to which
 the new groups must be added. Removal of groups is probably easy.
 For just one addition it could be done, although still not the best
 choice.

would it be very difficult to update the Jmol scripting language to
change the chemical nature (or just add atoms) to a selection of
atoms?

That is, for spheric nanomaterials, one can probably select all atoms
at the surface (e.g. at a certain distance from the center of the
particle)... and then modify those atoms...

Should be doable, right?

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Re: [Jmol-users] silica nanoparticle

2014-06-20 Thread Egon Willighagen
Kazem,

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Kazem Sepehrinia ksepehri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have made a silica nanoparticle using Materials Studio and I want to
 modify surface chemistry of it, I want to remove unwanted groups from the
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 that matches with experimental data.

Do you have a file people can play with? As said in another reply, I
guess with some scripting it should be doable...

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Re: [Jmol-users] silica nanoparticle

2014-06-20 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es wrote:
 My concerns are about correct atom position, and also adding more
 atoms that were not present and should go in the right positions too.

Understood and agreed... if I think of the nanotox field, however,
they typically do not know how much, where, etc, the coating is
covering the core... and I am under the impression it is actually the
idea here to try to find some distribution to match experimental
data...

 For example, you could easily change all O atoms at a certain
 distance from Si atoms and bonded in a certain way, into S atoms. But
 then the bond lengths will not be correct, and how to add another
 layer of atoms bonded to those S?

Good questions, indeed. People have started doing QM-like things on
this; for obvious reasons with methods like DFT etc. But you still
have to start with some 3D model, and if this can be done with Jmol,
it sounds like a win to me...

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[Jmol-users] CML for animations?

2014-03-06 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

the CDK has code to read CML files with a JMOL-ANIMATION convention
which was one used to store Jmol animations in the Chemical Markup
Language.

Is anyone using this convention or using CML in general for conventions?

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Re: [Jmol-users] CML for animations?

2014-03-06 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 What does that even mean, Jmol-Animation convention?

convention is a concept from the Chemical Markup Language format. A
convention refers to how various CML elements encode particular
content.

 And how could you possibly save that in CML?

More or less in the same way as in a XYZ file: a sequence of 3D models...

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Re: [Jmol-users] CML for animations?

2014-03-06 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 sure. I see. Right. Standard, simple animation. Thank you.

And your questions basically confirm my suspicion :)

Thanks,

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Re: [Jmol-users] posterity link -- Jmol-7

2013-04-03 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Oh my! http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/jmol/jmol-7/

Nice, but it does not beat Jmol 0.6 from March 2001:

jmol-0.6.1.tar.gz 2001-03-26 2.9 MB

- https://sourceforge.net/projects/jmol/files/OldFiles/

That said, there is not much around anymore showing early adoption :(

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol 13.1.13 released - several new features

2013-02-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 A lofty goal. No such plans at this stage.

Understood, and no worries :) There will always be plenty of ideas,
but without the bank account of someone like Gates or Slim, we won't
be able to implement them all :)

 Plenty to do just to get the reading working. But I wouldn't rule it out.

Yeah, we can keep dreaming :)

 The problem, of course, would
 be that a significant portion of what Jmol is capable of doing is not
 representable in PyMOL. And, I'm sure, vice-versa, but that's not stopping
 me from trying

Indeed. I would personally not be so worried about that; there is a
common basis and that could start really small and it would grow over
time, as people coin in, add effort etc, just like with Jmol itself...
to many efforts fail in that the measure success only in the best
possible outcome that turned out to be too ambitious... like Rome,
Jmol was not built in one day either.

On a related note, I have written a patch (now applied) that splits
the Jmol editor in Bioclipse, to have one for small molecules and one
for large molecules. That will allow us to tune menu's etc for the
various content. While I am full time working on Open PHACTS, I do
teach a few hours of Protein Structure each year, and moving to
Bioclipse/Jmol as platform for that. I am thinking of something like
Proteopedia here, which I really like.

I very briefly tried to upgrade Jmol in Bioclipse last week; Bioclipse
2.6.0 uses 11.8.17. I tried upgrading to 13.x but there were too many
API changes. Is there an migration help page, by any change? And,
would it already be worth upgrading to the latest 11.x? That would be
easier and still perhaps improve Bioclipse 2.6.1 ?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol 13.1.13 released - several new features

2013-02-22 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Most notably, Jmol 13.1.13 reads PyMOL session files (.PSE). There is still
 work to be done to ensure faithful rendition, but it's a start.

Nice!

Do you also have in mind of writing such files? That would very nicely
implement an idea that no one ever got around too, of sharing views
between PyMOL and Jmol...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and MMFF94

2012-05-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Thank you, Nico, for releasing Jmol 12.3.25. This version of Jmol is very 
 special. It includes

 set forcefield MMFF

Well done!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Bye Bye mmCIF?

2012-04-25 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Eric Martz ema...@microbio.umass.edu wrote:
 This is the first I've heard about PWF. There are some slides by
 Helen Berman about it here:

 http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/general_information/about_pdb/rcsbpdbac10-presentations.pdf

Listening to a talk from Gerard Kleywegt (PDBe) right now, who just
said the wwPDB is in fact based on mmCIF (with PDBx)...

I asked about a draft specification, and he mentioned they are working
on a website, but had no further detail...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/ChemDoodle -- test2

2012-04-13 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 OK. Please test!

 http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/test2.htm

Very nice!

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Re: [Jmol-users] What's the status of Jmol and the IcedTea Plugin?

2012-03-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Jonathan,

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote:
 This suggests that there is a workaround for getting Jmol to work with the
 IcedTea plugin.  I thought from reading it that IcedTea couldn't handle the
 segmented loading.

The applet loads for me nowadays in Chrome on Debian testing with the
IcedTea plugin for applets and IcedTea/OpenJDK, but the when I try
Proteopedia, clicking a green link causes the applet view to blank :(

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol for iPads?

2012-03-30 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 1. Do you want a QA controlled (by Apple) environment,  or  the more 
 advertising-oriented environment of Android?

I do have several Android apps installed without advertisement... I do
not think the above choice is accurate...

 2. Which app store best contains the kind of apps that you want?

Here too, you have way more choice with Android: e.g. there is
F-Droid, an app store dedicated to open source apps:

http://f-droid.org/

(Bob, maybe you could upload the Jmol app there too?)

 4. Security, again allegedly, is lower on Android.

F-Droid has interesting apps in this area...

 5. iPad is not fragmented,  but  Android is device fragmented (unless of 
 course you consider  Samsung as the only alternative player).

Choice == fragmentation. Do you want a monopoly (no fragmentation) or
a choice (fragmentation)... if you rather pay a lot for not having to
make choices, then iPad is your thing. If you like to encourage your
students to explore things no one has done before, then iPad/Android
is even be a choice.

 6. Few Android devices update the OS as often as  Apple does IOS.

Android's can be installed with custom ROMs which you can update any
time of the day you like.

Forcing your students to use certain hardware and certain software may
sound cool, but ask a student and ask him/her why she cannot as study
as optimal as he/she would like... you'll hear one thing: access to
study material. So, if you go iPad, make sure that all students has
iPads 24/7 and can install/view and study whatever educational
material they deem needed...

I find it very disturbing that educators are even considering creating
a learning environment where students are restricted in their
learning! That is just another step back to the middle ages... Henry,
I very much appreciate that people use the platform on which they can
perform their work most efficient; do not disallow your students the
same choice!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol for iPads?

2012-03-30 Thread Egon Willighagen
Dear Henry,

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 I find it very disturbing that educators are even considering creating
 a learning environment where students are restricted in their
 learning! That is just another step back to the middle ages... Henry,
 I very much appreciate that people use the platform on which they can
 perform their work most efficient; do not disallow your students the
 same choice!

 I a not sure I understand what you are saying Egon. If there is eg no Jmol on 
 e.g. an  iPad or Kindle, is that extending choice?

It most certainly is not... I would love to see Jmol work on the iPad
or Kindle...

 It could be viewed as a lack of choice, ie  if you want the features of Jmol 
 on a mobile device, your choice is currently restricted just to  Android.

'just' :)

 I mentioned in my post standards, ie epub2, epub3.  There are widely 
 available readers for these on all platforms (well, not yet epub3, but it 
 will come). Again,  I am not sure where the lack of choice there is?

I am wondering if these will allow the interactivity we want as done
in Proteopedia. Will those formats be an electronic dead tree, or
proper HTML with embedding of interactive things (applet/WebGL/...)
which can be interacted with?

 WebGL is expected shortly on both types, again no lack of choice.

My argument was not against WebGL, but against iPad, and in reply to
your 8 points in comparing iPad to Android...

The interaction and accessibility is crucial... we want students to
not just look at a protein, but indeed also to allow them do things
the material did not immediately envision, like the downloading of
that structure into other tools...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol for iPads?

2012-03-30 Thread Egon Willighagen
All,

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Egon Willighagen
egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I find it very disturbing that educators are even considering creating
 a learning environment where students are restricted in their
 learning! That is just another step back to the middle ages... Henry,
 I very much appreciate that people use the platform on which they can
 perform their work most efficient; do not disallow your students the
 same choice!

I like to clarify this point a bit. In was partly in reply to the
email from Henry, but also to other emails in this thread.

What I observe at many universities is plans where the university has
beautiful plans how they like to teach students. This can be a choice
for using iPad to show students protein structures, as outed in the
email thread. We have seen this for a long time: we select one
pedagogical book for a topic. However, that one book may not align
best with how all students learn; probably it will with the majority,
but not all.

Maastricht University expects students to decide themselves which book
to pick, and we here offer them two or three options. However, this
has as downside that they can only read them at the university, as we
do not provide those books for free, nor expect them to buy them
(which they would not be able to, anyway).

Here, the educational institute 'knows best' how the students will
learn. However, all students have their own way of learning. Some
prefer learning basic facts by heart, others prefer understanding and
apply systems later. Similarly, there are various ways to explain
something. Pure mathematics, visual explanation, explanation by
example. Books prefer solutions. But who are we to decide what is
best? Should we keep acting like a church that describes what is best
for the flock?

That is where my clumsy referral to the middle ages come from: an
institute that decides what it best, leaving no option for
alternatives. I should have phrased it like that.

My apologies that the email reads like a flamebait; I am strong about
teaching students to think for themselves, which requires giving them
room to make choices for themselves; I was overenthusiastic about it.

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol for iPads?

2012-03-28 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Craig T Martin cmar...@chem.umass.edu wrote:
 I don't yet have an iPad personally, but it's on my list of things to buy
 next and I have a number of colleagues who are absolutely fanatical.
 Tomorrow we go to the Dean to pitch an idea that will involve the purchase
 of 200 iPads, for laboratory and evening exam use. The latter would benefit
 greatly from jmol adaptation.

 Anyone game to take this on? Bringing jmol out of Java and into
 HTML5/OpenGL?

Why not pitch that idea you with Dean too then? Closed platforms do
come with a more limited amount of software... why not ask for
permission to purchase development time for someone to write this code
transition?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol for iPads?

2012-03-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Eric Martz ema...@microbio.umass.edu wrote:
 I just heard a segment on NPR about hundreds of high schools that are
 abandoning textbooks and giving every student an iPad instead.

This is so sad... we're not even over the MS vendor lock-in, and ready
to buy into the next one...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applet in HTML...

2012-01-29 Thread Egon Willighagen
2012/1/29 Herráez Sánchez Ángel angel.herr...@uah.es:
 Everything you describe sounds like the regular and proper way to do. It may 
 be your browser, but I would not expect it.
 Any modern browsers now behave, and Iceweasel is Gecko-based, right?

Iceweasel is just Firefox, but the name 'firefox' is trademarked and
not 'open', so Debian cannot use it. Hence 'iceweasel'.

I would more expect the Java plugin to be a problem, which is icedtea...

Both my Chrome and Iceweasel use that... I got Konqueror working now,
which uses a java executable directly, rather than a Java plugin...
while needlessly slow (takes 20 seconds to fire up), it does show be
crambin and caffeine... so, there the file IO jars are properly
loaded...

Also, it works in Konqueror with both 12.2.0 and 12.2.13, while
neither in Chrome and Icedweasel, so there does not seem to be
regression in the indexing either...

I will try to figure out if the single jar approach works, but need to
figure out how to initialize that with Jmol.js...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applet in HTML...

2012-01-29 Thread Egon Willighagen
2012/1/29 Herráez Sánchez Ángel angel.herr...@uah.es:
 I recollect other people reporting problems with IcedTea, may be that.

...

 jmolInitialize(.., JmolApplet.jar)

Yeah, I'd found that too and using the signed full jar... and that
works in Konqueror, Icedweasel, and Chrome.

So, I think we isolated indeed the problem to the IcedTea plugin...
and just to be clear, this plugin is using the same Java as Konqueror
is using directly... and that is OpenJDK 6.

OK, thanx for the help! I will be talking to the IcedTea community
now, primarily to ask if this is a know issue yet...

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[Jmol-users] running a localized Jmol application on OS/X? (was: Översättning igen)

2012-01-15 Thread Egon Willighagen
cc:jmol-user

Hi Peter,

2012/1/16 Peter Sahlin peter.sah...@akademi.bastad.se:
 Hope you can read my swedish, otherwise tell me and I will translate.

Yeah, I could read it :) I'm not a native speaker, but in the past
three years up picked it up a bit.

 Hämtade Jmol 12.3.12 igår, men där fick jag ingen svenska alls.  Hämtade
 då Jmol 12.2.12 (har använt 12.0.45 förut) men här fungerade inte
 översättningen heller. Ändå gav menyn nere till höger valet Svenska. Jag
 bytte till brittisk engelska, och sedan tillbaka till svenska, men det
 hjälpte inte. Kollade sedan i javakonsolen och där stod:

 GT could not find the class
 org.jmol.translation.Jmol.en_GB.Messages_en_GB
 GT could not find the class
 org.jmol.translation.JmolApplet.en_GB.Messages_en_GB
 GT could not find the class org.jmol.translation.Jmol.sv.Messages_sv
 GT could not find the class org.jmol.translation.Jmol.sv.Messages_sv

 Har jag gjort något fel??

From the error messages I would say you have a .jar file missing, but
I do not own a Mac myself, and do not know why it does not see the
.jar with translations...

Jmol user community, how should OS/X users start Jmol to get
translations to work properly?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Android released

2012-01-09 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 https://market.android.com/search?q=jmolso=1

Cool! And now that I actually have an android, even cooler!

Q: is it possible to create a URL or so, that would auto load the app
with a particular protein? Or better: with a particular Jmol script?

What I am getting at, is that I want to have QR codes on slides on
lectures, allowing students to open the structures I am displaying on
the slide, directly on their phones...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Please UNsubsribe me from the jmol users email list, thanks

2011-12-06 Thread Egon Willighagen
Dear Clifford,

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Clifford Felder
clifford.fel...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:
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You can do this yourself by going to this webpage:

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Scroll down the bottom, enter your subscribed email address and click
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Re: [Jmol-users] interesting factoid -- Jmol in Google Documents

2011-11-21 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 We just discovered that Jmol PNG images inserted in Google Documents
 preserve their state after saving as zipped HTML.

What state are you referring to here? Does Jmol include a script to
restore the view as metadata in the PNG? And you mean this metadata is
not lost when GDocs saves the document as Jmol?

 Not that you can just have
 them be active in the document, but it's still interesting, I think, that at
 least you can drag them back into Jmol.

Does this mean that Jmol can now read PNG files, and show it live, if
the PNG contained this state script?

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Re: [Jmol-users] try your hand at stereochemistry

2011-10-13 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/isomers.htm

What's up with example 4? The MFs don't match... or is that intentional?

 Just thought of this idea -- will be developing the page to have more
 examples. Note that under the applets it shows what commands were given.

I suggest adding some examples from the CIP papers :)

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Re: [Jmol-users] problem when selecting smarts [#6]-[#6]

2011-09-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Martin Guetlein
martin.guetl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I think the aromatic bonds not should be matched.

I think the '~' bond should match any bond and ':' aromatic bonds, but
'-' is explicit for single bonds...

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[Jmol-users] Jmol/MediaWiki use in templates?

2011-09-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi MediaWiki-plugin users,

while something like jmolSmilesCC/jmolSmiles works fine, when I
try to use this in a Template environment, like with:

jmolSmiles text=3D (Jmol){{{Has Smiles|}}}/jmolSmiles

it does not work... the {{{Has Smiles|}}} is properly set, but the
applet gets not the SMILES but a {{{Has Smiles|}}} string...

How can I get this to work?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/MediaWiki use in templates?

2011-09-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Egon Willighagen
egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote:
 jmolSmiles text=3D (Jmol){{{Has Smiles|}}}/jmolSmiles

I think a similar thing is happening with
jmolFile{{{CMLFile|}}}/jmolFile which now gives me this exception:

Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to Article::__construct()
must be an instance of Title, null given, called in
/var/www/toxbank/mediawiki/w/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.body.php on line 690
and defined in /var/www/toxbank/mediawiki/w/includes/Article.php on
line 52

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Re: [Jmol-users] Installing jmol as extention to mediawiki

2011-09-13 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Brian Salter-Duke
b_d...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:44:11AM +0200,  Angel Herr?ez  wrote:
  https://wiki.ch.ic.ac.uk/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Rzepa1

 All applets in there work for me:

 That's in Fiirefox 6.0.2, WinXP, Java 1.6.0_27

 Works for me also on Ubuntu with Firefox.

Debian Testing with Google Chrome is fine too.

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Re: [Jmol-users] OT (a bit): C-I-P R/S assignments in 3D

2011-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Richard Ball r...@ellerbach.com wrote:
 Egon, what do you recommend?

R,S stereochemistry is a very complex algorithm. I have a limited
implementation in the CDK of the published algorithm, but still we get
a good amount of fails. The algorithm is not written by an information
specialist, leading to nasty rules that are difficult to implement
efficiently. For example, rules that resolve R,S based on the R,S
value of other stereocenters, or rules that are based on E,Z
stereochemistry. Even more interesting are the rules that state that
R,S is decided by the R,S of the atom itself. Like If I am R, then I
am R indeed, rather than If I am S, then I should be R, which is not
possible, so I am not S :)

In short: the rules are nasty. The CDK gets 98.5% right for molecules
with one stereocenter, but this goes down for more complex molecules.
The lack of a good, Open gold standards is not helping here.

That said, other Open Source software that implements (part of) the
rules include OpenBabel and OPSIN. With the CDK and the online
resolver, we have a few tools to compare against each other.

I would advice against trying to implement these rules, particularly
because they are mostly needed for coming up with IUPAC names, which
Jmol does not do anyway.

But then again, I have said that before, only encouraging to you pick
up the challenge ;)

Grtz,

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Re: [Jmol-users] OT (a bit): C-I-P R/S assignments in 3D

2011-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Richard Ball r...@ellerbach.com wrote:
 Thanks Mike. The problem I want to provide a solution for (assuming there is
 one) is: if someone has/gets a .mol file with a complex multi-stereocenter
 molecule how can they get the R/S assignment for the particular atoms in the
 .mol file while retaining the identity of those atoms.

The CDK can do this starting from SMILES with @ and @@ annotation.

I have used code like this (using Groovy, a Java dialect):

IMolecule mol = sp.parseSmiles(smiles)
IterableIStereoElement stereos = mol.stereoElements()
MapIAtom,ILigancyFourChirality stereoList = new
HashMapIAtom,ILigancyFourChirality();
for (IStereoElement stereo : stereos) {
  if (stereo instanceof ILigancyFourChirality) {
ILigancyFourChirality ligancy = (ILigancyFourChirality)stereo;
stereoList.put(ligancy.getChiralAtom(), ligancy);
  }
}
print mol  + id + : 
try {
  for (IAtom atom : mol.atoms()) {
if (stereoList.containsKey(atom)) {
  rsChirality = CIPTool.getCIPChirality(mol, stereoList.get(atom));
  print  + rsChirality +  
}
  }
} catch (StackOverflowError e) {
  print StackOverflow;
  // e.printStackTrace()
}

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Re: [Jmol-users] 3D pH change simulation?

2011-06-24 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Eric,

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Eric Martz ema...@microbio.umass.edu wrote:
 Does anyone know of an animation simulation (atomic coordinates) for
 changes in 3D protein conformation (or amino acid conformation) due
 to changes in pH?

I took the liberty to cross-post your question on BioStar. There is a
considerable number of bioinformaticians there, but not much response,
though there is a comment from someone who found your question
interesting, and started searching in literature:

http://biostar.stackexchange.com/questions/9392/animation-of-changes-in-3d-protein-conformation-due-to-ph-change

Grtz,

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol Molecular Orbital Viewer

2011-05-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 I've done a bit of work on my demo page for viewing molecular orbitals and
 turned it into the Jmol Molecular Orbital Viewer.

 See http://stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/mo

Filled is green, empty is red?

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Re: [Jmol-users] IRC chat -- Jmol in Wikipedia 30 minutes.

2011-04-12 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 irc://chat.freenode.net:8001/wikichem  to start at 1500 UTC. Feel free to
 join us. Options for Jmol in Wikipedia.

Did you try:

http://webchat.freenode.net/

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Re: [Jmol-users] super-easy method to insert a Jmol applet into a web page or email message

2011-04-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Otis Rothenberger and I have been working on ways to improve the
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 check this out:

 http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jmol.php

Nice!

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Re: [Jmol-users] molecular orbital linear combinations

2011-02-12 Thread Egon Willighagen
Bob,

nice!

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Shore, Jay jay.sh...@sdstate.edu wrote:
 I like it a lot – thank you for developing it.
 Interestingly, on my MacBook (10.6.6) the slider works with Firefox (4.0b1)
 but not with Safari (5.0.3) nor Chrome (9.0.597.94 beta).

Firefox (as IceWeasel) 3.6.13 is fine, but Chrome (9.0.597.84 (72991)
Debian 6.0) does not work for me either, wrt the sliders.

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Re: [Jmol-users] PubChem SDF

2011-01-18 Thread Egon Willighagen
2011/1/18 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es:
 Just my 2 cents:

 Evidently, a fair number of PubChem's sdf's have partial charge data.

 I see aproblem here. The format shown in your example is not
 according to SDF spec  (I think it does not suppor partial charge,
 only formal charge).

How so? The file looks fine to me. The partial charges are stored in
custom data fields...

 So if Jmol is made to support reading that, it is not really SDF
 import. That should be made clear.

Now, PubChem is that common that it would not be bad to add support
for the 'PUBCHEM_MMFF94_PARTIAL_CHARGES' data field...

If peope are worried that there will be an explosion of supported
common data fields, then it may be an option later to use Jmol script
to tell the SD file reader to parse fields as such; something like:

set symyxSDreadPropertyAs PUBCHEM_MMFF94_PARTIAL_CHARGES partialCharge

(I guess partialCharge will match an existing script keyword
reflecting the partial charge, but too lazy right now to look up the
exact phrase...)

While certainly possible, it is indeed a bit ridiculous to not read
these partial charges, and having to use a JS SD files parser for
that...

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Re: [Jmol-users] utilisation de jmol avec ubuntu

2011-01-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, philippe philippe.maill...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
 pouvez vous m'indiquer la procédure pour installer Jmol sous ubuntu pour
 visualiser des molécules

You just download the Jmol.jar and start it from the command line with Java:

$ sudo aptitude install openjdk-6-jre wget unzip

$ cd /tmp
$ wget 
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/jmol/Jmol/Version%2012.0/Version%2012.0.27/Jmol-12.0.27-binary.zip
$ unzip Jmol-12.0.27-binary.zip

$ cd jmol-12.0.27/
$ java -jar Jmol.jar

Hoping that helps (and apologies for not answering in French),

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Re: [Jmol-users] utilisation de jmol avec ubuntu

2011-01-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, philippe philippe.maill...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
 Just a last question,  I may open an plug-in chime with Jmol.

Jmol has a scripting language quite similar to that of Chime, but
which has evolved enormously since the Chime days... is that what you
mean?

Documentation on the scripting language can be found here:

http://jmol.sourceforge.net/docs/

There also used to be a tool to convert Chime script into Jmol script,
but not sure if that still exists...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol on French TV :)

2010-11-28 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Nico,

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:
 A French medical TV show has just used a picture of THC rendered with Jmol
 for a few seconds.
 Not much, but that's still nice to know.
 The broadcast is available for a few days
 at http://www.france5.fr/allo-docteurs/index-fr.php?page=playerid_article=834
 A simple display is visible at 01:42 for a few seconds.
 Credits are at the end 24:45 with the address of Jmol website.

The link works, but the video does not :( I get on hold for 35
seconds, and then only get a white video canvas :(

Linux Chrome and Firefox...

Has a new wiki page been put online already? ;)

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol on French TV :)

2010-11-28 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:
 The link works, but the video does not :( I get on hold for 35
 seconds, and then only get a white video canvas :(

 It's working for me : 35 seconds of ads, then video canvas where I click on
 play (I had to click twice)

OK, got it working in Konqueror :)

It's a brief appearance, but fun nevertheless... now waiting for the
final seconds of the report... (nice program, BTW!)

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Re: [Jmol-users] embed Jmol in a google site

2010-11-05 Thread Egon Willighagen
2010/11/4 Jan Halborg Jensen jhjen...@kemi.ku.dk:
 has anyone succeeded in embeding an interactive Jmol model in a google site
 web site?

I just asked the other day about using it on blogger.com (=Google) hosted blogs:

http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/what-is-the-simplest-way-of-using-jmol-in-a-blogger-com-blog

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Re: [Jmol-users] [Jmol-developers] Worrying news for Mac users!

2010-10-22 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Rzepa, Henry h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/21/apple_threatens_to_kill_java_on_the_mac/

 As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of Java 
 that is ported by Apple, and that ships with Mac OS X, is deprecated,

I think it's not that bad... there is OpenJDK (by Oracle), and seems
to be available for OS/X:

http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2010/Oct/msg00248.html

(Dated yesterday...)

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Re: [Jmol-users] [Jmol-developers] Worrying news for Mac users!

2010-10-22 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Rzepa, Henry h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2010/Oct/msg00248.html

 That expresses future aspirations, rather than testable reality.  There is 
 nothing for
 OS X  at http://openjdk.java.net/

You can find instructions floating around on the web on how to build
it... this is one hit:

http://confluence.concord.org/display/CCTR/Build+OpenJDK+Java+1.7.0+on+Mac+OS+X+10.5

 The argument is that implementing  Java for  OS X would almost certainly 
 require Apple to release source code for the graphical implementations. If 
 that does not happen, then the actual experience on the  Mac may become  a 
 poor one.

True. Just like we have seen with the Classpath libraries...

Well, you only payed minimal money for OS/X, so what can you expect? ;)

 Jobs appears to want to take  OS X towards  iOS, which is away from using a 
 mouse and towards using gestures. I think that adapting  Java for that sort 
 of environment is going to require major work.

Yeah, that is one good reason for Jobs to drop Java... of course, if
he would have gone Open Source, he could have shared this burden...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Mac Java Update

2010-10-21 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Philip Bays pb...@saintmarys.edu wrote:
 Anyone apply the Java update released yesterday?   If so, did it break
 anything?

Somewhat related, but also somewhat OT... have people been using
OpenJDK on OS/X? Is that possible yet, as it seems Java will phase out
their own JVM [0]...

Egon

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Re: [Jmol-users] [Jmol-developers] feature request: complexer hybrid orbitals

2010-09-02 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 done. I retro-added it to 12.0, just because.
 Jmol 12.1.9 and 12.0.11 will have sp3d and sp3d2 hybridizations. See
 documentation for details.

Yeah, I saw it in the changelog yesterday! Cool!

I will blog about this asap... the biggest problem here is to create a
simple example smallest molecule with those hybridizations :)

Many, many thanx!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and crystallography: the paper

2010-09-02 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 This just in!

Congrats!

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Re: [Jmol-users] FW: Problem running Jmol 12.0 application in Linux

2010-08-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Thank you, Paul, for contacting us about this error. Looks like we had a bug
 that only appears for first-time users.

Ah, so it was a folder that did not exist?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Problems launching Jmol 12.0.6 in Linux and Mac OS X

2010-08-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Paul,

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Paul A Craig pac8...@rit.edu wrote:
 I am trying to run Jmol on my LInux 9.10 computer and keep getting this error 
 message. I am new to Linux and am not a java programmer.  I see the same 
 problem on my Mac.

I am running Ubuntu 10.04 with Java 1.6.0_18 and can boot Jmol 12.0.6 fine...

 java.lang.NullPointerException
        at java.awt.Component.setLocation(Component.java:1904)
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.jmolpanel.JmolPanel.init(Unknown Source)
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.Jmol.init(Unknown Source)
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.jmolpanel.JmolPanel.getJmol(Unknown Source)
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.jmolpanel.JmolPanel.startJmol(Unknown 
 Source)
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.Jmol.main(Unknown Source)
 Exception in thread main java.lang.NullPointerException
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.jmolpanel.JmolPanel.startJmol(Unknown 
 Source)
        at org.openscience.jmol.app.Jmol.main(Unknown Source)

The stacktrace seems to originate from line 270 in JmolPanel.java, but
I am not sure why the JFrame jmolFrame = new JFrame(); at line 262
would not have worked...

You seem to be running with a Sun/Oracle JVM too, so that should be fine too...

In the same folder, can you please try:

java -jar Jmol.jar

?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Fwd: Java embedding plugin

2010-08-11 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Philip Bays pb...@saintmarys.edu wrote:
 I just got this response from the author of the Java Embedding Plugin that
 the Mozilla browsers use to implement Java applets on the Mac.  A solution
 may be in sight:=)

Great! Thanx for getting in contact with them!

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[Jmol-users] Sharing of Jmol scripts?

2010-08-08 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

I saw some interesting emails lately on the scripts and sorts... has
anyone yet considered using MyExperiment.org for sharing useful Jmol
scripts?

Would that be an interesting platform to share Jmol scripts like:

Show the heme groups in protein X.
Demonstrate the hydrogen bonding framework in alpha helices.

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Re: [Jmol-users] handy guide to new Jmol 12.0 features

2010-07-28 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Here's a listing of all the new capabilities of Jmol 12.0, categorized:

  http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/new12.htm

Congrats, Bob!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Fwd: [Bug 581717] Firefox does not read java cache correctly

2010-07-27 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 we just need to have someone with a Mac use their Java Preferences App to
 set the preference for applets to Java 1.5 and see if it fixes the problem.

 I think it will. If so, then clearly it IS a Java 1.6 issue.

I would normally have asked Arvid, Jonathan or Ola here, but they are
all on holiday right now... :(

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Re: [Jmol-users] idtf output for polyhedral structures

2010-07-16 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.fr wrote:
 Bob's fix worked well (thanks!):
 http://www.dicoscouts.x10hosting.com/perez.pdf

Can anyone suggest a reader for Linux that supports this live content?
I tried Okular [0], but that showed an empty slide :(

Egon

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Re: [Jmol-users] HTML5 and WebGL

2010-07-15 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Can someone explain to me how the combination of HTML5 and WebGL is a
 replacement for Java?

It is not so much the Java language as it is the Applet design... the
applet concept requires a plugin to be installed (with the Java VM),
while a JavaScript VM comes by default with any browser... (yes, if
only they had made BeanShell the scripting language... or Groovy, or
...)

 Is the idea there that HTML5 somehow (via on-the-fly compiling? via
 pre-compiled equivalents of Java?) can reach the sort of speeds that people
 need for molecular graphics? Or is this just a dream? I'm just not finding
 anything out there that suggests it's any more than JavaScript with a 3D
 canvas. It's true that it would be nice to have built-in 3D graphics, and I
 can see how in some limited fashion this could be useful, but there's a lot
 besides rendering that is done in the process of molecular visualization.
 Construct an MO? Apply symmetry?

I fully agree that the JavaScript versions have not catched up with
Jmol, and with your speed, they will find it hard to keep up too :)

But, the point is that the applet environment is getting dated... not
much new developments there... no race between Google, Nokia, Apple,
Mozilla Foundation to produce the fastest VM...

JChemPaint faces the same 'problem'... will it get overtaken by
JavaScript solutions...

 Mind you, I like my iPhone. It's a great phone.

I hate the one I do not have: it does not do Java...

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[Jmol-users] fwd: Should I use Jmol or ChemDoodle for developing a 3d application?

2010-07-14 Thread Egon Willighagen
See:

http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/should-i-use-jmol-or-chemdoodle-for-developing-a-3d-application

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Re: [Jmol-users] [BlueObelisk-SMILES] News flash: Jmol reads SMILES into 3D format.

2010-05-29 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Rajarshi Guha rajarshi.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May 28, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:

 This uses a web service at Indiana University 
 http://cheminfo.wikispaces.com/smi23d
  that appears to use PCMODEL for its converter. The idea is similar
 to the way = goes to the RCSB site.

 The web service is based on smi23d (http://www.chembiogrid.org/cheminfo/smi23d
 ) which itself is derived from PCMODEL

Is there a tutorial describing:

1. how people can host this smi23d service themselves?
2. how to configure Jmol to use that 'mirror' ?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol model kit and docking

2010-05-29 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 137. set picking dragMinimizeMolecule -- responsive docking
 With Jmol 12.0.RC15 you can move a small molecule around and watch it react
 to its environment. Grab the caffeine molecule and move it toward the
 protein. Holding SHIFT down allows rotation. CTRL-Z undoes an action; CTRL-Y
 does a redo.

Can you perhaps add an option to automatically calculate H-bonding and
perhaps ionic interactions after the minimization is done, to
visualize how it is bound in the active site?

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Re: [Jmol-users] [BlueObelisk-SMILES] JmolSmilesApplet.jar

2010-05-13 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Bob,

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Probably what we should do is write a simple open-source version of JME to
 provide a frame to JmolSmilesApplet. It's too bad that Peter's work is not
 extensible in that regard. Peter, you sure you don't want to do this? But it
 would be a nice project - either to use a streamlined version of JChemPaint
 or just start from scratch. I mostly like Peter's interface, but there are
 some very good ideas in JChemPaint as well. Suggestions? What we are looking
 for is a very small, simple interface. Nothing fancy. If it comes from CDK
 it will need to be VERY highly streamlined.

I'll try to find some time for the further refactoring of the
CDK-JChemPaint architecture, and work on a minimal applet.

 Interestingly, my first version
 was 120K, then I refactored Jmol and got it down to 43K, then I did a clean
 build and discovered it was only 39K. Interesting process.

Impressive!

This only strengthens my opinion with the right effort we can get a
small JChemPaint applet too.

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol smarts/smiles upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Bob,

I'm impresses, once more... and don't want to spoil the news of this
powerful API! But...

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
   select smarts(C(F)[...@](Cl)H)

... this molecule is not chiral...

How does your lib handle the SMILES listed by Noel:

http://baoilleach.blogspot.com/2009/03/clockwisdom-of-smiles-part-ii.html

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol smarts/smiles upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Egon Willighagen
egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
   select smarts(C(F)[...@](Cl)H)

 ... this molecule is not chiral...

But then again, it's a SMARTS, not SMILES... so, it's fine that the
chiral atom lacks the fourth non-hydrogen side chain... /me is
embarrassed...

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol smarts/smiles upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 those should all be fine. They are similar to all the ones I tested. It's a
 full range of [...@1]   [...@th2] [C@@]  [...@h] etc. The parser accepts the
 defaults for two-, four-, five-, and six-bond situations (AL, TH, TP, OC),
 but the matcher does not yet process SP, TP, or OC. I'm figuring I will
 implement just the minimal versions of those. Shouldn't be too terribly
 difficult.

Bob++

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol smarts/smiles upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 What the heck! Might as well do them all!

So, can these chiral SMILES also be used to create a 3D model? Where
the stereo is correctly applied?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Fwd: Java 1.5

2010-04-28 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 I propose that Jmol 12.0 officially require Java 1.5. This will allow easy
 expansion of several features, including parallel processing, which we just
 introduced for isosurface creation.

Java5 is out of service too, and at least Ubuntu and Debian no longer
ship Java5. I think this is also the case for Fedora/RedHat.

So, requirement of at least 1.5 sounds good to me for Linux platforms.

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[Jmol-users] Fwd: Creating PNGs from Jmol

2010-04-27 Thread Egon Willighagen
Nice blog post with a small request (please leave as comment in blog too):

http://sea36.blogspot.com/2010/04/creating-pngs-from-jmol.html

I think Sam's question is about the following: is it possible with the
Jmol.js to show a (pre-compiled?) PNG image of a structure which can
be clicked to open (replace with Ajax?) the image with the applet?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Chime to Jmol

2010-04-21 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 I know I'm not the first to think of doing this -- what else is out there in
 this regard?

There used to be a script to convert a Chime script into a Jmol
script... have you used that?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Another publication about Jmol...

2010-04-10 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote:
 J. Chem. Ed. has just published a brief description of Jmol and the
 export to web function as well as archived a copy of the tutorial I
 put together.  I'll add the link to the Wiki, but post it here in case
 anybody cares.

 J. H. Gutow, Easy Jmol Web Pages using the Jmol Export to Web
 Function   Journal of Chemical Education WebWare.  Publication Date
 (Web): April 8, 2010.
 link: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ed100283v

Nice!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol -- two major advances

2010-04-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
Bob,

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 I'm sure there is. And if VMD is any example, the use of GPUs would vastly
 increase performance. It would be a great project for someone to explore.
 Since I know nothing about parallel processing, I'm not the one to take it
 on.

How is a Jmol view (Image) currently calculated? Wasn't this done
pixel by pixel (that's what I remember, but I might be mixing up
things)? Would it then not be possible to divide the Image into 2
parts and calculate each in 2 threads (etc)?

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Re: [Jmol-users] [PhyloSoC] Google Summer of Code proposal for 3D protein-structure evolution visualization

2010-03-26 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Hilmar,

Bob is the current code wizard... my Jmol code is long past history,
but we are using it in Jmol, and that needs an overhaul anyway... I
have been GSoC mentor in the past already, but could be available for
co-mentoring...

Bob, do you fancy a Google SoC T-shirt?

Egon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Hilmar Lapp hl...@nescent.org wrote:
 Hi Egon,

 we're trying to recruit a co-mentor for Chris. Could you fancy yourself
 co-mentoring? It'd be great to have you on board with this project and with
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Re: [Jmol-users] Good news/bad news/good news - orbitals

2010-03-25 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 This is fixed, and we will get a release out this weekend I hope.

Bob++

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Re: [Jmol-users] Google Summer of Code proposal for 3D protein-structure evolution visualization

2010-03-25 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Christian,

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Christian M Zmasek czma...@burnham.org wrote:
 I am the main developer of the Archaeopteryx phylogenetic tree viewer
 (http://www.phylosoft.org/archaeopteryx/).

 For this year's Google Summer of Code (http://code.google.com/soc/) we
 developed a proposal to essentially extend Archaeopteryx with Jmol so
 that it can be used for 3D protein-structure evolution visualization, see:

That's great to hear!

 https://www.nescent.org/wg_phyloinformatics/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2010#Visualization_of_Protein_3D_Structure_Evolution

Members of the Blue Obelisk community have tried in the past to get in
as mentoring organization, but that always failed...

 I was wondering if a Jmol developer or experienced user would be willing
  to help with this project, as co-mentor.
 In this case, co-mentoring would mean helping out with questions
 specific to Jmol (time commitment is expected to be minimal, maybe
 1h/week or less for the duration of the program -- 3 months).

That means you will have a first full time mentor from the NESCent?

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Re: [Jmol-users] black-and-white ORTEP diagrams? (was: CCL: Visualizing Software)

2010-03-09 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 That's ridiculous. Sorry, but to try to go retro on this is just too strange.

:)

I agree; don't shoot the messenger.

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[Jmol-users] black-and-white ORTEP diagrams? (was: CCL: Visualizing Software)

2010-03-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

I saw this interesting question on the CCL mailing list:

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Anthony F wrote:
 My next question is on visualizing my XYZ files. I have used Avogadro, VMD, 
 and Gabedit. But I want to make diagrams like these:

 http://bhgroup.lsa.umich.edu/files/u1/ge-prop-ortep.gif

 I prefer how the ellipsoids have the 3D effect and that everything is in 
 black and white. I don't like how bonds have two different colors in Avogadro 
 and VMD.

There is a nice tutorial by the IUCR that shows how ORTEP diagrams can be used:

http://journals.iucr.org/services/help/jtkt/7.html

And I know the scripting language can be used to change the colors of
atoms and bonds...

But that would not cover a border around atoms and bonds, I guess, so
that we can make them all white-on-white...

Has someone tried to make black-and-white ORTEP diagrams with Jmol?

Kind regards,

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[Jmol-users] Jmol-in-the-movies wiki section?

2010-01-04 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

our wiki has sections for Jmol-in-publications (getting overcrowded
:), Jmol-in-wiki's, etc... Just got this (old) link with Jmol (via
Bioclipse) in the movies :)

http://divby0.blogspot.com/2008/10/eclipse-photoshop-challenge-better-than.html

Happy new year all!

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Re: [Jmol-users] JMol server side

2009-12-27 Thread Egon Willighagen
Nina,

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Nina Jeliazkova n...@acad.bg wrote:
 I am looking for a guide or examples to use JMol in headless mode, for 
 generating images on the server side.

check out the answer on the Blue Obelisk Exchange:

http://blueobelisk.stackexchange.com/questions/38/how-do-i-automate-the-generation-of-3d-images-of-molecules/40#40

Have a look at the source code of the Jmol.java to see how to run the
script and not fire up the GUI (see the -n option).

pedanticIt's Jmol, with a lower case 'm' :)/pedantic

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and multiTouch

2009-12-26 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Did I forget to send this?

 This video demonstrates a first go at incorporating multi-touch capability
 into Jmol.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x8uDRQKIg0

I had not seen it yet. Nice video! Cool hardware...

Some time ago there was someone who used a Wii remote control and a
infrared light, and two reflectors on his fingertips... and hooked up
the Wiimote input to this kind of multitouch input... might be a nice
mash up :)

How does it work on the API level? How do you get the SparshUI input
linked to the running Jmol? Using script?

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Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 But I agree, the business with axes and tics and such is pretty far afield
 of the core Jmol mission.

Not sure if ticks are must used in crystallography, but axes most
certainly... I also use the axes visualization in some graphics for a
book chapter that is about finished on 3D molecular representation...
(which I will email about when published).

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Re: [Jmol-users] New chemical software

2009-11-20 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Jmol is GPLP

That would be LGPL :)

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Re: [Jmol-users] feedback appreciated

2009-11-18 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jeff Hansen jhan...@depauw.edu wrote:
 Lets just go extreme with this.  Make every side of the applet available for
 adjusting something.  I could see zoom, Z-rotation, slab, atom size.  Why
 not just make it configurable so a little javascript or Jmol script can
 assign a property to a particular side and we can adjust whatever we want to
 adjust?  Kind of a built in slider.

And I assume the area would 'highlight' a bit when I am in the right
spot, as visual feedback? A bit less black than black, a bit less
white than white, or so? Or always a bit more yellowish? Just to get a
good feeling for that 2%?

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Re: [Jmol-users] feedback appreciated

2009-11-18 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Why not just make it anywhere you want? any function?

Say, on top/around of a certain atom, bond or secondairy structure?

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Re: [Jmol-users] feedback appreciated

2009-11-18 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of within a certain area of the
 window. You can always trap a pickCallback for atoms.

True. I did not think of it that this could be done on a purely Jmol
script level too... how does that work?

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Re: [Jmol-users] feedback appreciated

2009-11-18 Thread Egon Willighagen
Nice!

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 function testit {
  
 print _atomPicked
 
 }

 set pickCallback jmolscript:testit;

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[Jmol-users] Coolest 2009 Nature Chemistry paper :)

2009-11-10 Thread Egon Willighagen
Thanx, Henry!

http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v1/n7/media/nchem.373_jmol.html

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[Jmol-users] Can I get the Jmol content as CML?

2009-10-30 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

is Jmol still able to save the content? For example as CML or perhaps
MDL molfile or XYZ?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Can I get the Jmol content as CML?

2009-10-30 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Rzepa, Henry h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 As it happens, Bob and I have been having a discussion about eg  saving  XYZ 
 (with
 vibrational vectors).  Bob's documentation does describe the process, 
 although of course
 one has to use the signed applet to use the  write command if doing so from a 
  Web page.

Ah, right... 'write COORDS MOL file' is what I need.

 However  Egon, are you asking whether eg  the Jmol DOM content model which 
 stores the
 coordinates has an internal output stylesheet that can perform the conversion 
 to eg  CML, ie
 eg Molfile in,  CML out, in the manner of  openBabel?

Yes, 'write COORDS CML file.cml' would be nice... but MDL molfile is
a good enough start.

 Bob has also described his  XMLised  version of  jvxl.

Yeah, we were talking about that...

 I presume an  XML version of the Rasmol script is a far greater undertaking?

Indeed. But not what I am looking for right now.

Thanx for your ideas! (And I feel stupid for looking at the Jmol
source code, instead of the far more informative interactive help! :)

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Re: [Jmol-users] Calculating volume within Van der Waals surface.

2009-09-02 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:11 PM, N David Brownhubd...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Given the 677 compounds tested and the proximity to the TSAR values, I
 think that's an odd comment. It's an approximation, true, but for the
 drop in computational cost I find the accuracy astounding.

So, just out of curiosity... What size of error are we talking about
here? What are we comparing against anyway? What is the empirical
vanderwaals volume of some molecule?

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Re: [Jmol-users] Fwd: info

2009-08-02 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Robert Hansonhans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 Can someone help here?

I think he registered after my reply.

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Re: [Jmol-users] Fwd: Jmol 11.8.RC4 and the GRC

2009-08-01 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi Bob!

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Robert Hansonhans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 The 2009 Gordon Research Conference on Visualization in Science and
 Education is over. It was unbelievably cool. It's strict policy not to
 discuss anything that was at that meeting, so please don't ask me to do
 that.

:) I'm sure some ideas will just make Jmol in the next months, without
us ever knowing Gordon was involved... everytime you say I just had a
vision of unknown source of this cool feature... :)

 However, some ideas were transmitted to me during the meeting from
 Jmol users, and I did have a few hours to work on Jmol here and there
 outside of the actual conference hours, so there are a few new features in
 Jmol 11.8.RC4 even though I try not to do that with a release candidate.

 Three new features and one crazy idea of note:

 Mouse-movable labels
 Lone pairs and radicals

This I particularly like... I guess this is not yet reflected in the
model, is it? That is... if CML contains LP or radical information, is
this directly visualized yet?

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[Jmol-users] Third Release Candidate for Jmol 11.8

2009-07-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

I just uploaded Release Candidate 3 for Jmol 11.8 with the following changes:

# code: more efficient VRML export
# new feature: set helixStep 1,2,3,...  sets step for quaternion-based
   analysis of structure -- see 1C4D
# bug fix: 1C4D has [FOR] -- not accepted
# bug fix: color isosurface red translucent prior to isosurface command
   causes null pointer exception
# new feature: isosurface select() SET n
   where n is an integer 1,2,3... that selects which set is to be displayed
   and counted for area or volume
# bug fix: spacegroup reading when center of molecule is not in unit cell
   can cause bonding errors
# new feature: isosurface area for subsets -- use
   isosurface area select(oxygen) sasurface colorscheme sets
# bug fix: draw OFF in state script is not selective

Have a nice weekend!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Does Jmol Support Output for Use with 3D Glasses?

2009-07-03 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Egon
Willighagenegon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rich asks in his blog:

http://depth-first.com/articles/2009/07/02/dear-lazyweb-does-jmol-support-output-for-use-with-3d-glasses

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[Jmol-users] Jmol Version 11.6.25

2009-07-01 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

bug fix release 11.6.25 for the stable Jmol series has just been made
available on SourceForge with the following changes:

# bug fix: select model=1 does not work (since 11.6.RC17!)
# bug fix: dipole offsetside not working for molecular dipole (EVER!)
# bug fix: 2 pixels off in y for labels. Don't know why I thought that was
   necessary in Text.java::setBoxXY.
# bug fix: dipoles cannot be colored by name
# bug fix: dipole settings not accessible via wildcards
# bug fix: gzipped gzip file not read properly. (Jmol-FAH files)
# bug fix: Crystallographic Information File  not recognized.

Greetings,

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[Jmol-users] Jmol Prerelease 11.7.46

2009-07-01 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

a new Jmol prerelease has been uploaded to SourceForge, bringing these
changes as listed in the changelog:

# bug fix: select model=1 does not work (since 11.6.RC17!)
# new application: JmolData.jar
# This application completely disallows any display -- it is totally formless
# There are no Java Swing JFrames involved, no dialogs, no popup menus,
# no display, no shapes, no labels, no echos -- just the model data.
#
# bug fix: command-line jmol scripts not exiting jmol upon an error condition
# argh. FOR broken in 11.7.45
# new feature: helix(resno or {atomExpression},type)
#   given x = C-alpha, C-carbonyl, or N (depending upon set
 quaternionFrame)
#   where type =
#   point -- nearest point to x on local helix axis
#   axis -- quaternion derivative vector normal indicating local helix axis
#   angle -- rotation around local heix axis for resno i -- i+1
#   radius -- vector normal from local helix point to x
#   draw -- draw command for the local helix vector
# note that the axis length is the rise, radius length is the radius,
# and 360 / angle is the pitch of the helix
#
# bugfix: gamess readers crashing if keywords missing from basis options or
   control options
# code: findNearestAtomPicked added to JmolViewer
# new feature: VRML exporter displays ribbons and cartoons by
   automatically setting hermiteLevel 1 if necessary.
# new feature: VRML exporter recognizes color and normals for isosurface

Kind regards,

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[Jmol-users] Jmol 11.7.45 released

2009-06-29 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

not too long after the .44 release the changes are piling up again;
see below. Downloads from:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=23629package_id=142353release_id=693156

# bug fix: load trajectory XXX.cif not applying fractional coordinates.
# bug fix: load trajectory {0 -1 1} not loading any models if first
model has 0 atoms
#  (as in certain cif files)
# bug fix: dipole offsetside not working for molecular dipole (EVER!)
#
# code: refactored scriptEvaluator and Jmol.java. Now it is much
simpler
# to create a truly headless Jmol application, where Jmol is being
# used for the investigation of the structure instead of
visualization.
#
# new application: JmolFrameless.jar
# This application completely disallows any display -- it is totally
formless
# There are no Java Swing JFrames involved, no dialogs, no popup
menus,
# no display of any kind.
#
# script editor behaving properly except for a nasty SWING bug that
will
# require recasting this in AWT instead of SWING.
# See http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4353673
#
# new feature: gamessUS reader now reads dipoles and partial charges.
#
# TODO script editor --  search? argh... I knew this would be a can of
worms...
# script editor -- undo/redo works (CTRL-Z, then SHIFT-CTRL-Z or
CTRL-Y)
#
# new feature: drag/drop and file menu-open scripts directly into
editor, from where they can be checked or tested.
# code: refactored readers, allowing for more obvious
initialization/finalization methods
# new feature: App and applet consoles now have editor buttons
# that load scripts into a script editor and allow stepping through
# scripts (and changing values during the pauses) - preliminary only
#
# opens a rough draft ScriptEditor
# new feature: Gamess file reader now translates internal basis set
and calculation
#   methods representations into roughly literature standard for
Pople  Dunning basis
#   sets as well as perturbation, CI and CC calculation methods.
This is dumped to
#   calculationType.
# new feature: application console buttons: PAUSE, ?, STEP
# new feature: SHOW TRACE -- reports stack trace
# bug fix: functions with names starting with _ were local instead of
global
# bug fix: 2 pixels off in y for labels. Don't know why I thought that
was necessary in Text.java::setBoxXY.
# new feature: SHOW VARIABLES now gives variable trace through
function stack
# new feature: [Oh, VERY COOL!] You can now pause the app anywhere in
a
# script, do anything you want -- even within functions -- change
variables,
# set parameters, anything -- and then resume with RESUME. Some of us
# have dreamt of having this with JavaScript. Very very useful!
# so, for example:
#
# function testing(i,j) {
#   n = 3
#   show variables
#   pause change any variable and then enter RESUME
#   show variables
# }
# testing(3,5)
#
# bug fix: problems with PAUSE/RESUME within App
# bug fix: set ? nonfunctional
# bug fix: unmatched { in quotes in @{ } not properly treated: echo
@{ testing}}
# new feature: strings may start with ' or , like JavaScript:
#   x = 'testing'
#   print 'there are ' + all.length + ' atoms'
#   cd, echo, gotocmd, help, hover, javascript, label, message, and pause
#   all are implicitly strings. You CAN use ... but you don't have to,
#   and you cannot use '...'. This way the introduction of single quotes
#   as an equivalent of double quotes cannot break existing scripts.
-- BH 06/2009
# new feature: print getProperty(PDBInfo,REMARK300)

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Re: [Jmol-users] Bob traveling to England and Germany

2009-06-28 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Robert Hansonhans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 In case there is anyone in the London/Oxford/Lancaster areas or
 Berlin/Frankfurt areas who would like to get together and talk about Jmol
 (or let me give a presentation!), here is my itinerary for July/Aug:

 July 22 - arrive London
 July 24 - Lancaster
 July 25 - Aug 1 Oxford (Gordon Conference on Visualization)
 Aug 1-4  - Berlin
 Aug 5-10 - Frankfurt

I don't think this overlaps with my schedule, unless you make a stop
in the Netherlands, between Oxford and Berlin, or stay three weeks
longer in Frankfurt :)

BTW, nice prestigious conference!

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol release 11.7.44

2009-06-24 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jan H. Jensenjhjen...@kemi.ku.dk wrote:
 The GAMESS reader sounds very interesting, but I haven't been able to
 find any documentation on the web?

Usually, Bob puts up demos of new features at:

http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm

But I do not see the new GAMESS functionality demoed there...

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[Jmol-users] Jmol release 11.7.44

2009-06-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all,

with Nico on holiday, I got to honour to make a Jmol release again,
after a very long time of not doing releases :)

I'm pleased to announce the Jmol Prerelease 11.7.44 with the following
changes by the every amazingly productive Bob:

# bug fix: write FRAMES also for trajectories
# new feature: MO LIST or SHOW MO LIST display listing of orbitals for all files
# new feature: GAMESS reader now sets calculationType, orbital type,
and auxiliaryInfo.calculationOptions
# bug fix: select(x;{xxx};...) or for(x;{xxx};...) when {xxx} is empty
returns incorrect result
# bug fix: dipoles cannot be colored by name
# bug fix: dipole settings not accessible via wildcards
# new feature: merging of label() and format() functions -- same in
all respects.
# bug fix: spartan'08 reader not reading vibrations

This being the first time in ages of making Jmol builds, make sure to
cc me personally if I messed up :)

Egon

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Re: [Jmol-users] cool new Jmol features

2009-06-04 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 see http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm

 Check it out!

Nice !

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Re: [Jmol-users] cool new Jmol features

2009-06-04 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Egon Willighagen
egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
 see http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm

 Check it out!

 Nice !

BTW, I get an unexpected exception in step 2 of 17. user-definable
atom selector functions.

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Re: [Jmol-users] JMOL and Wikipedia

2009-06-02 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Brian Salter-Duke b_d...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 On quality, I think that is a different and general concern. We try to
 not use poor quality images, so we would try to use only good quality
 Jmol data files. I am happy that we restrict the type of jmol files to a
 small number, perhaps initially only *.pdb files. Of course we would
 have to add file extensions for jmol files to the upload process anyway,
 so we would not need to add all possible file extensions.

PDB is not a good format for small molecules; CML would be much
better, e.g. by allowing embedding of important information regarding
identification of the structure, or adding info on who added that
image. Please be specific when you suggest file formats: there are two
main areas of interest here: protein (PDB is the de facto standard),
small molecules. In both cases, there are many alternative, and PDB as
format has, at least, lesser quality than other offerings.

I also really don't get the security concerns brought up... sorry, for
dropping in on this, but have been involved in talk several years ago
too, and if you want Jmol without JavaScript, that is no problem.
JavaScript as security problem regarding a Jmol extension for WP is a
non-issue. People have been using plain HTML for embedding Jmol in
various website for more than 10 years, and I have no clue why this
would not be a problem for WP.

Please explain.

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