[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
The Google browser will undoubtedly become very popular amongst the Google users and as web designers it's our job to make websites compatible with every recent browser. However, as Google mentions themselves, if your website is compatible with Safari 3 it should autmatically also be compatible with the current Chrome version. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't use this browser myself since their is no need since we already goti IE7 and firefox as a popular web browser. Would this give us more headaches as a web designer??? I mean we know that IE was trouble it different ways. If we have google coming into the game and they get popular we will now have to worry about our websites showing properly with each popular web browser. I would like to know if they have any assistance that would help the display resolution program we have when making websites. I hope future web browsers would do this for us that we just need to make one website layout and the browser would resize our website to fit the clients resolution. -- Isaak Malik Web Developer
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
However, as Google mentions themselves, if your website is compatible with Safari 3 it should autmatically also be compatible with the current Chrome version. Sort of. It's not an issues of a new renderer to support (WebKit, same as Safari/Android), it's an issue of a new JavaScript engine to support (V8), which is a real concern as the jQuery test suite apparently fails a couple of tests on Chrome. --Erik
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Most browser incompabilities or bugs that jQuery is concerned with are in the DOM implementation. The actual JS engine is pretty consistent across browsers. I don't know whether the DOM implementation is part of V8... I guess not. If its not part of Webkit either, odds are good that Chrome will provide its own pitfalls. Jörn On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Erik Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, as Google mentions themselves, if your website is compatible with Safari 3 it should autmatically also be compatible with the current Chrome version. Sort of. It's not an issues of a new renderer to support (WebKit, same as Safari/Android), it's an issue of a new JavaScript engine to support (V8), which is a real concern as the jQuery test suite apparently fails a couple of tests on Chrome. --Erik
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
I love it! No non-sense web browsing. I'll still keep firefox for development of course, but I'll definitelly recommend it for general use. 2008/9/2 Giovanni Battista Lenoci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is out! :-) -- gianiaz.net - web solutions p.le bertacchi 66, 23100 sondrio (so) - italy +39 347 7196482 -- Cheers, Diego A.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Microsoft can't retire IE6 any more than Ford could retire 1996 Ford Explorers. It has to be the user's choice. What's a better suggestion is for WEBSITES to stop supporting IE6 (coding CSS and JS fixes and workarounds) and encourage people to upgrade on their own. _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris thatcher Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:59 AM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced I hope it's enough for microsoft to retire ie6, but frankly I worry a little bit about the gas giant that google is becoming. I can't see any reason they couldn't simply have given some funding to mozilla and kept providing their services as is, except... to hone their tracking of my browser behavior to improve advertisement placement. Firefox is still my sweet heart, and we're going steady. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Diego A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love it! No non-sense web browsing. I'll still keep firefox for development of course, but I'll definitelly recommend it for general use. 2008/9/2 Giovanni Battista Lenoci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is out! :-) -- gianiaz.net - web solutions p.le bertacchi 66, 23100 sondrio (so) - italy +39 347 7196482 -- Cheers, Diego A. -- Christopher Thatcher
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Andy Matthews wrote: Microsoft can't retire IE6 any more than Ford could retire 1996 Ford Explorers. It has to be the user's choice. What's a better suggestion is for WEBSITES to stop supporting IE6 (coding CSS and JS fixes and workarounds) and encourage people to upgrade on their own. I think Chrome will sit alongside MSIE - allowing old stuff to be slowly retired while all the new stuff is done through Chrome. More verbose version: http://tinyurl.com/68lvhb Guy
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
I don't think chrome his wanting to compete with firefox. From what i read, google as already put a lot of money into firefox so it would make no sense to build a browser to directly compete with it. From what people say, chrome is to compete with MSIE as a simple and easy to use browser, which currently it is. the interface of chrome is very simplistic and it does not seem too offer plug-ins or themes(yet). Now maybe it is going to compete with firefox(which i don't think is a good idea) but i will want until they start adding themes and plugin to say that. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:58 AM, chris thatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope it's enough for microsoft to retire ie6, but frankly I worry a little bit about the gas giant that google is becoming. I can't see any reason they couldn't simply have given some funding to mozilla and kept providing their services as is, except... to hone their tracking of my browser behavior to improve advertisement placement. Firefox is still my sweet heart, and we're going steady. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Diego A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love it! No non-sense web browsing. I'll still keep firefox for development of course, but I'll definitelly recommend it for general use. 2008/9/2 Giovanni Battista Lenoci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is out! :-) -- gianiaz.net - web solutions p.le bertacchi 66, 23100 sondrio (so) - italy +39 347 7196482 -- Cheers, Diego A. -- Christopher Thatcher
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
I hope it's enough for microsoft to retire ie6, but frankly I worry a little bit about the gas giant that google is becoming. I can't see any reason they couldn't simply have given some funding to mozilla and kept providing their services as is, except... to hone their tracking of my browser behavior to improve advertisement placement. Firefox is still my sweet heart, and we're going steady. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Diego A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love it! No non-sense web browsing. I'll still keep firefox for development of course, but I'll definitelly recommend it for general use. 2008/9/2 Giovanni Battista Lenoci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is out! :-) -- gianiaz.net - web solutions p.le bertacchi 66, 23100 sondrio (so) - italy +39 347 7196482 -- Cheers, Diego A. -- Christopher Thatcher
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
For those interested in more information on Chrome, checkout their comic book here: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ It does a nice job of explaining some of the thinking behind Chrome. I have been playing around with it since yesterday and it's great! Super fast and super simple.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Ryan Zec wrote: I don't think chrome his wanting to compete with firefox. From what If they were to compete with FF I think the dev community would start voicing some serious concerns. Not in google's best interests.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Dear folk ,for more information please check this Article which John Resig performed http://ejohn.org/blog/javascript-performance-rundown/ it says Chrome has been powered by V8 javascript engine , and JOhn and his partners are working with TraceMonkey and developing it , he believe it is much better than V8 and they will import TraceMonkey to firefox 3.2 right now in firefox 3.1 Tracemonkey is BUilt in but it is disabled ... so guys I think we have to check our websites with CHrome and validate it Regards Pedram On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Guy Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Zec wrote: I don't think chrome his wanting to compete with firefox. From what If they were to compete with FF I think the dev community would start voicing some serious concerns. Not in google's best interests.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Jonathan wrote on 9/3/2008 8:54 AM: For those interested in more information on Chrome, checkout their comic book here: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ It does a nice job of explaining some of the thinking behind Chrome. I have been playing around with it since yesterday and it's great! Super fast and super simple. Another browser that sounds interesting is Opus Palladianum, a purported secure browser that doesn't suffer from fundamental design flaws like other browsers popular today: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Is-There-Room-for-a-Security-Browser/ Supposedly it too will be built on WebKit. Outside of this research paper, I haven't heard anything more about it: http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/homes/kingst/Research_files/grier08.pdf - Bil
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
I wouldn't use this browser myself since their is no need since we already goti IE7 and firefox as a popular web browser. Would this give us more headaches as a web designer??? I mean we know that IE was trouble it different ways. If we have google coming into the game and they get popular we will now have to worry about our websites showing properly with each popular web browser. I would like to know if they have any assistance that would help the display resolution program we have when making websites. I hope future web browsers would do this for us that we just need to make one website layout and the browser would resize our website to fit the clients resolution.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Geoffrey wrote: The browser is being written with WebKit, the open-source engine at the core of Apple's Safari and Google's Android. The browser is also getting a new Javascript virtual machine, V8. It's said to be a better solution for complex and rich Web applications--it should yield better performance as well as smoother drag and drops in interactive applications. At least Google take open web standards seriously, as does the webkit team so hopefully it won't be another MSIE and it'll be regularly updated to fix bugs, etc. Will be interesting to see what the performance gains are like.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Is out! :-) -- gianiaz.net - web solutions p.le bertacchi 66, 23100 sondrio (so) - italy +39 347 7196482
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
But since it uses Webkit, it shouldn't be too much different from Safari, right? --Karl Karl Swedberg www.englishrules.com www.learningjquery.com On Sep 1, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Geoffrey wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029974-2.html?tag=mncol;txt Looks like we have another browser to contend with.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
I use a bunch of Google apps and really like them so I'm looking forward to seeing what this browser has to offer. Webkit is a great start - I'm not worried about having to develop for it. No Mac version to begin with though :( Joel.
[jQuery] Re: New Google Browser announced
Not sure what the part about the new javascript virtual machine means. The browser is being written with WebKit, the open-source engine at the core of Apple's Safari and Google's Android. The browser is also getting a new Javascript virtual machine, V8. It's said to be a better solution for complex and rich Web applications--it should yield better performance as well as smoother drag and drops in interactive applications. On Sep 1, 8:24 pm, Karl Swedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But since it uses Webkit, it shouldn't be too much different from Safari, right? --Karl Karl Swedbergwww.englishrules.comwww.learningjquery.com On Sep 1, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Geoffrey wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029974-2.html?tag=mncol;txt Looks like we have another browser to contend with.
