KR>I GOT it!

[Phil Matheson]

Welcome to the club.

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


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KR>I GOT it!

[Martek Mississippi]

With a lot of thanks to my old friend from  my early USAF days, Kelly McGee, 
I am now the proud owner of KR2  # N1333A. It is going to take a bit of a 
critical eye and likely 12 to 18 months of work to get it where I would 
consider it safe and airworthy, but the fact that it is right now in the 
driveway is  motivating. Two 1,000 mile trips (up to VA and back) in three 
days is enough to make anyone need as many days of sleep, though. THUS..its 
off to bed for this puppy, with dreams of KR2 dancing in my head!

Glenn Martin
Tired as can be in
Biloxi, MS

PS..KR's trailer tow VERY stable! 70 MPH was the norm. 

KR> whowasit

[Mark Langford]

Dana Overall wrote:

>> For all who don't recognize the airplanes, both with the fifth bearing 
>> corvair, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEjCTLIe7Y  that was Joe in  the 
>> lead with Mark hot on his tail on there way back out to PN and AL 
>> respectively. <<

That was a lot of fun, and nice little trip to get together with two good 
buddies I haven't seen in months. We got to see Black Magic in the basement, 
watch a little of 36 Right (I think that's it) on the onboard DVD player, 
and got a good education on glass cockpit components from the new 
incarnation of Black Magic's instrument panel.  See
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/081011137m.jpg for the mugs, 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/081011146m.jpg for some lakes I 
flew over on the way back, and
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/081011172m.jpg for the best I could 
do for a cloud picture.  Towards the end of the return trip, the ceilings 
were getting lower and I got into some pretty bouncy turbulence under those 
clouds.  It was another great trip in the KR time machine though...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
website:  www.n5...@hiwaay.net
email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net 

KR> whowasit

[Dana Overall]

For all who don't recognize the airplanes, both with the fifth bearing corvair, 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEjCTLIe7Y  that was Joe in  the lead with Mark 
hot on his tail on there way back out to PN and AL respectively.  They stopped 
by my home airport Sat. about 4.  We went to a local Irish Pub and taste tested 
a couple of their over 100 different varieties of root beer while having 
dinner.  We retired to my house and found ourselves spending most of the rest 
of the evening hanging out in my garage around Black Magic.watching a movie 
while in the garage, but I'll leave that for them to mention...  Mark had some 
pretty impressive numbers off his dynavibe, which he had hooked up on his 
flight up.  Sunday morning, after a nice breakfast, we returned to the airport 
where Mark unhooked the dynavibe, which Joe took with him to balance his bird.  
Hung out a while, then off they went.

Short behind the long story..keep building and when you do 
fly...get out of your local patch and fly somewhere, anywhere, 
anytime.that's what these fast airplanes do best!!

You guys keep gluing, I'll keep pounding and we'll all be up flying.

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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> From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:04:23 +
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> whowasit
> 
> Dana,
> Was that the world renowned 5th bearing test team
> Thanks for the fun, Looking forward to seeing Black majic in the air soon.
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KR> whowasit

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

Dana,
Was that the world renowned 5th bearing test team
Thanks for the fun, Looking forward to seeing Black majic in the air soon.

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KR> Flight planner for iPhone or iPodTouch

[Myron (Dan) Freeman]

Hi Guys and Gals;



I just picked this up off of the X-Plane Tech list and thought some of you
number crunchers might be interested.



Austin Meyer is the producer/owner of the X-Plane Flight Sim program.



*



X-Planner is here for iPhone!



X-Planner is a flight-planner that runs no your iPhone or iPodTouch.



Here is how it works: You enter the performance parameters of your airplane
one time (takes maybe 15 minutes?)



Then after that you just enter the departure and destination for wherever
you are flying and the winds aloft. X-Planner will then show you your weight
and center of gravity with the take-off fuel on board and weight and gravity
at zero-fuel as a red line across the weight and balance envelope so you can
see if you will be within weight and balance for the entire flight! Finally
seeing if you are within weight and balance is easy and even kind of fun!



Then X-Planner will show you the time enroute and fuel burn for each
altitude so you can see how much fuel to put on board and how long the
flight will be and also know WHAT ALTITUDE IS THE MOST EFFICIENT 

ALTITUDE TO FLY!!!



I am only charging $9.99 for this so it will pay for itself in fuel savings
in the first flight if it saves you even 2 gallons which I am sure it will.



So any pilot with an iPhone or iPod touch should get this for sure. It makes
doing the weight and balance FUN and shows you the BEST altitude to fly and
tells you exactly how much fuel to ask for before flight.



Pilots that do much flying and do NOT have an iPhone might consider an 

iPodTouch for this application... It costs $229 at apple, which is 

NOT exactly cheap but depending on how much flying you do you could easily
save $229 of fuel over time by knowing what altitude and power settings to
use on each flight based on he exact parameters of your airplane and the
current winds (which you enter for each flight).



Anyway, I use it before every flight 842X and it has saved me a lot of gas!
You should too!



Check it out at http://x-plane.com/ 



Austin Meyer





? ? ? ? ? ? 

Regards, 

Myron (Dan) Freeman 

Indpls, Ind. 46203-3570 

Home of the Indy 500, 

the World's most famous 

auto race. 

mfreem...@indy.rr.com 

KR> Guess who

[dustin Reves]

The second plane loked like Mark Langford. I think he has the only plane that 
"color"
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KR> Whats wrong with the list

[dustin Reves]

Mark

I have been using this link http://mylist.net/private/krnet/ To view the 
archives. Normally it lists all the e-mails for this year and the past years. 
But lately it only lists about 10 at a time from 08
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KR> N886MJ Flies Again!

[Eric Pitts]

> After almost two full months since my crank breakage, "Six Mike Juliet"
> flew again this morning with the new Dan Weseman fifth bearing
> installed.

Mark, where are the pix's of your engine and great job!
-- 
Eric Pitts
Terre Haute Ind.
http://eric.pitts.mystarband.net

KR> N886MJ Flies Again!

[Mark Jones]

After almost two full months since my crank breakage, "Six Mike Juliet" flew 
again this morning with the new Dan Weseman fifth bearing installed. I was at 
about 200 feet off the ground when my mind said to me "wow, this engine has 
never been this smooth on climb out". Then at 500 feet I made a precautionary 
turn to downwind just in case the engine stopped. I continued a climb up to 
3,500' over the airport constantly monitoring the engine gauges as I climbed. 
All the while still being amazed at how smooth she was. I leveled off at 3,500' 
and settled back for the ride. Then there was a hiccup in the engine for about 
a second then she smoothed out and never missed a beat after that. I attribute 
that to the possibility of some water condensation in the tank. At about 15 
minutes into the flight the engine gauges read: Oil Pressure: 38, Oil Temp: 
220, CHT: 300, EGT: 1300. Everything was right in line with my previous engine 
readings except this time the Oil Temp was a little higher than what I was used 
to seeing. I think this will go down as the engine breaks in. Prior to flight 
and on a cold engine, I did a compression check and four cylinders read 80/80 
and two read 79/80. I am using total seal rings. As the flight progressed, I 
did some yanking and banking to check for engine vibration and was just 
delighted as to how smooth she was. Next, I opened her up to 3400 rpm and when 
I reached 160 mph, I pulled her up into a steep climb and again, there was no 
vibration. I was truly amazed as my plane had never been this smooth. I leveled 
off at 4,500' and trimmed her for hands off flight. She flew straight and 
level. One thing I noticed was that flights before the fifth bearing, the stick 
would vibrate when I released it and now there was no vibration in the stick at 
all. Have our prayers all been answered with the fifth bearing? I sure hope so 
but only time will tell. At 35 minutes in the air, I decided to bring her in 
and check things out. My landing was something to be desired since I have not 
flown in two months. Back at the hangar I removed the cowl and noticed some oil 
at the front seal. Hopefully, this is just from installation and will go away. 
A few more flights will determine that. However, I do have a definite leak at 
the oil pump cover which must be dealt with soon. The oil from there left a 
fine line oil streak on the fuselage bottom. It sure was good to be back in the 
air and get that KRVair fix again.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
Web page: www.flykr2s.com
e-mail: flyk...@charter.net

KR> Ray Allen Trim System

[rahu...@peoplepc.com]

Has anyone had any operational problems with their Ray-Allen (MAC) elevator 
trim? Seems like with just at 100 hours things are starting to give up the 
ghost on N202RH. First to go was the pressure switch on my Hobbs meter. Now 
the elevator trim is acting up - works fine on the ground including run up, 
but refuses to work in the air. Any body have any suggestions?

Tried to post this earlier today - but I don't think it went through - If 
you see it twice, you have my apology!

Rick Human
N202RH
Houston, Texas 

KR> Guess Who

[Dana Overall]

Seems I had a couple of wayward ones stop in at my place yesterday and 
vagabonded it over for the night at my house, after a couple of adult sodas.  

This is a shot of them leaving this morning...care to guess the 
names of the gypsies  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEjCTLIe7Y   (on the lower right hand corner of 
the video click "watch in high quality")

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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KR> Ray Allen Servo

[rahu...@peoplepc.com]

Has anyone had any operational problems with their Ray-Allen (MAC) elevator 
trim? Seems like with just at 100 hours things are starting to give up the 
ghost on N202RH. First to go was the pressure switch on my Hobbs meter. Now the 
elevator trim is acting up - works fine on the ground including run up, but 
refuses to work in the air. Any body have any suggestions?

Rick Human
N202RH
Houston, Texas

KR> Re: Wing Walks.

[Darren Crompton]

After mulling over all the input (thanks) I decided to test it so I got the
KR off the bench again and fitted the canopy and seat.  I stood behind the
left hand stub wing and had no real issue with swinging a leg in and then
getting out again so I decided to continue building without a wing walk.  I
am 5' 11".  The wings will be placarded with "NO STEP" etc and anyone
getting in or out will be doing so under my instruction anyway.
After a full weekend building I pretty much have a completed stub wing.  I
will start the right hand one straight away and don't expect to have as many
updates on the site due to the repeated procedure.

All the best.
-- 
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA

My web site: www.kr-2s.com

KR> float bowl

[Eric Evezard]

Mark and others.Thanks for drawing attention to the danger of carb float bowl 
air pressure.I have twin Stromberg (Zenith) carbs,with the float bowls each 
vented to the air intake,before the butterfly valves in the  the carbs.Carb 
heat is collected with scoops on the left and right exhausts  near the 
manifolds and ahead of the  in line air filter. I think any excess pressure 
will be relieved at the  filter.If anything the system may introduce a slight 
vacuum in the float bowls.Does this sound OK ?.The engine runs well and the 
carb heat,does not seem to adversely effect the engine,even although there is 
probably a slight ram air effect from the scoops facing the air flow when the 
carb heat is applied.Does this sound OK netters.?
Best Regards,
Eric,
S.Africa  

KR> not quite so fast!

[Al Friesen]

Don't wax that primer until the finish coat or you get an orange peel finish 
job. Al
- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph H Horton" 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: KR> not quite so fast!


> I hate to be the one to point this out but Langford is fast but still 2
> mph slower than the advertised cruise speed of a KR2. Maybe a coat of wax
> on that primer will get him there ? We can only hope ;-0
> Joe Horton
> Coopersburg, Pa.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:46:03 -0500 "Mark Jones" 
> writes:
>> Langford, you may be fast but you can't leave me as fast as you used
>> too. Ha
>>
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> so fast!
>>
>>
>> > NetHeads,
>> >
>> > For almost a year I'd been thinking that my top speed was
>> something like
>> > 168
>> > mph TAS, and now with the 3100cc engine, 178 mph TAS.   But week
>> before
>> > last
>> TAS and now we're close to 178.   I'm a
>> happy
>> > boy
>> > once again...
>> >
>> > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
>
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KR> KR2 at SWRFI

[Mark Wegmet]

Just my 2 cents (as it were). I have read some reluctance among the folks
that fly all of the KR series planes to seriously consider AirVenture; maybe
due to traffic concerns, "playing with the big guys", or whatever... You may
want to seriously reconsider attending.

Having said that, and maybe ticked off a bunch of you, please allow me to
explain.

I am 'new' to the plans built/kit built group. I went to Oshkosh last year
for the first time because I wanted to look at kit built airplanes... my
first thought before hand was that something built in someone's
garage/basement or whatever couldn't be a 'real airplane'. 

Oshkosh taught me that I was way wrong!

If you love airplanes, you can find it there: Stinsons, Pitts, F-18's and
everything in between.

There is a reason that Whitman Field is the "Busiest Airport in the world
during AirVenture". And, no, I don't work for them.

It is too late for this year, but you guys have some fantastic planes...
show your colors dudes.

N952MW res

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Randy Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:59 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 at SWRFI

That was Saturday The Rv's did there fly over and the
yaks were doing there run up. I guess I remember the
Ker ville days, and there were not that many planes on
the flight line when we arrived. The activity were all
the people leaving. When we went to the vendors area
at 3 they were all ready putting things in boxes and
getting ready to leave. I saw the Hi pass with the
300kt Lance. The yaks and RV's left after there flyby.
Most people I talked to were not impressed at all. If
you want to have a good fly in Have something for the
wives to do and then people will stay the night. 


--- Oscar Zuniga  wrote:

> Randy wrote:
> 
> >We arrived at 2 and that was about the only plane
> left.
> 
> Hmmm... was that Sunday, by any chance?  The fly-in
> was only Fri. and Sat., 
> June 1-2.  Setup was on Thursday and take-down was
> on Sunday.  I was driving 
> a tram at 2 PM on Saturday and the fly-in was fully
> buzzing with activity.  
> That's about the time that the T-6s were flying
> formation with the Yaks, 
> with a sextet of RVs flying formation a few hundred
> feet below them.  The 
> fast glass airplanes had done high-speed fly-bys
> (and I do mean FAST!)- the 
> Columbia and some others.  Incredible speed and
> climb.
> 
> All of the vendor booths were fully manned, people
> were everywhere, and 
> planes were everywhere too.  You must have been
> there on Sunday-?  Sorry it 
> didn't work out for you.  And PS- I don't know what
> they were charging for 
> avgas on the field, but just a few miles away at the
> self-serve at 
> Castroville (T89) it was $3.70.
> 
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> 
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KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.

[Mark Wegmet]

Sorry... the tail dragger mode is looking more interesting.

An 'old guy' I work with said the only major risk of a TD (when you learn to
do it) is ground loop on grass.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:16 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.

I highly recommend beefing up your Diehl nosewheel strut. It is simple and
easy to do. Here is a link to how I did mine. Eric Pitts also did his this
way. I have seen this on others as well.
http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Oshkosh

[Bob Glidden]

Mark Wegmet wrote:
It is too late for this year,but you guy's have some fantastic planes...show 
your colors dudes.


Why is it too late for this year,Oshkosh is not till July.


Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 

KR> not quite so fast!

[Randy Smith]

I use MPH on all planes. I go faster that way. 


--- Mark Langford  wrote:

> NetHeads,
> 
> For almost a year I'd been thinking that my top
> speed was something like 168 
> mph TAS, and now with the 3100cc engine, 178 mph
> TAS.   But week before last 
> I was out flying around over Guntersville Lake on a
> very calm day and 
> thought I'd do a quick two way wide open GPS run up
> and down the river.  The 
> result was only 149 mph...with exactly the same
> number in both directions 
> (no math required!).   At these speeds, the airspeed
> indicator is very 
> accurate, at least I'd thought so up until now. 
> This really had me 
> buffaloed, as I was so sure that all my testing
> couldn't have been off that 
> much.
> 
> So last weekend I flew up to middle Ohio to a
> Scirocco thing, and there was 
> still this disparity between the GPS and the ASI,
> and the laptop's GPS 
> agreed with the Lowrance GPS, so it's 2:1, but the
> EIS agrees with the ASI 
> perfectly, so now it's 2 to 2.  What's up with
> this...static/pitot has been 
> lying to me or what?  Then I was looking at pictures
> that I took of my 
> laptop screen on the way back from Ohio, and noticed
> the letters "kts" after 
> the speed on the display.  Then I remembered that a
> few weeks ago I updated 
> both the firmware on the Lowrance, and the software
> on the laptop, and they 
> were both reset back to the default of knots rather
> than mph!  Multiply 149 
> mph x 1.15 and correct for TAS and now we're close
> to 178.   I'm a happy boy 
> once again...
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website: www.N56ML.org
> 
> 
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KR> Oshkosh

[Mark Wegmet]

The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still go, fly in, but expect to
fly out... contact them, they like home built planes, after all; that's what
EAA is all about.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Bob Glidden
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:55 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Oshkosh

Mark Wegmet wrote:
It is too late for this year,but you guy's have some fantastic planes...show

your colors dudes.


Why is it too late for this year,Oshkosh is not till July.


Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 


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KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.

[Randy Smith]

It is easy er to ground loop a TD on pavement than
grass. Once you learn to fly a TD and get a little
time It will be 2nd nature. 
When I started flying a KR TD I had 10 hrs in a PA11.
I now have over 1800 hrs in TD and Have never ground
looped. (I have come close) I do not feel I have any
more spacial flying abilities than anyone Else.  All
you have to do is PAY ATTENTION until you shut her
down.


--- Mark Wegmet  wrote:

> Sorry... the tail dragger mode is looking more
> interesting.
> 
> An 'old guy' I work with said the only major risk of
> a TD (when you learn to
> do it) is ground loop on grass.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Mark Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:16 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.
> 
> I highly recommend beefing up your Diehl nosewheel
> strut. It is simple and
> easy to do. Here is a link to how I did mine. Eric
> Pitts also did his this
> way. I have seen this on others as well.
> http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI 
> Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Oshkosh

[Mark Jones]

Mark,
Last year we had six KR's at Airventure. Did you not see them? Five of us 
flew in together and another showed up later. We all camped out right there 
on the EAA grounds. It is never too late if you really want to go.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Wegmet" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh


> The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
> reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still go, fly in, but expect 
> to
> fly out... contact them, they like home built planes, after all; that's 
> what
> EAA is all about.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Bob Glidden
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:55 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Oshkosh
>
> Mark Wegmet wrote:
> It is too late for this year,but you guy's have some fantastic 
> planes...show
>
> your colors dudes.
>
>
> Why is it too late for this year,Oshkosh is not till July.
>
>
> Bob Glidden
> Eminence,Indiana
> KR2S (Building)
> Corvair 110
> glid...@ccrtc.com
>
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KR> Oshkosh

[Randy Smith]

The last 8 trips to Oshkosh were planed the day before
I left.My last trip I called a friend Thursday am an
said lets go now. We stayed Friday and Sat. and flew
back to Dallas on Sunday.  When you arrive there are
bulletin boards around with phone # of places to stay.
They also can help you at the sigh in desk or bring a
sleeping bag and tent. They have very good showers and
things on the field. One important thing to bring is
MONEY. Before you arrive get notoms Fly to Ripon keep
you mouth closed listen and follow directions. It is
not that hard.

--- Mark Wegmet  wrote:

> The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These
> guys are serious; they
> reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still
> go, fly in, but expect to
> fly out... contact them, they like home built
> planes, after all; that's what
> EAA is all about.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Bob Glidden
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:55 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Oshkosh
> 
> Mark Wegmet wrote:
> It is too late for this year,but you guy's have some
> fantastic planes...show
> 
> your colors dudes.
> 
> 
> Why is it too late for this year,Oshkosh is not till
> July.
> 
> 
> Bob Glidden
> Eminence,Indiana
> KR2S (Building)
> Corvair 110
> glid...@ccrtc.com 
> 
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KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.

[Mark Wegmet]

Thanks... I feel better in my choice of TD with "spats"

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Randy Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:13 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.

It is easy er to ground loop a TD on pavement than
grass. Once you learn to fly a TD and get a little
time It will be 2nd nature. 
When I started flying a KR TD I had 10 hrs in a PA11.
I now have over 1800 hrs in TD and Have never ground
looped. (I have come close) I do not feel I have any
more spacial flying abilities than anyone Else.  All
you have to do is PAY ATTENTION until you shut her
down.


--- Mark Wegmet  wrote:

> Sorry... the tail dragger mode is looking more
> interesting.
> 
> An 'old guy' I work with said the only major risk of
> a TD (when you learn to
> do it) is ground loop on grass.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Mark Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:16 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Diehl nosewheel strut brace.
> 
> I highly recommend beefing up your Diehl nosewheel
> strut. It is simple and
> easy to do. Here is a link to how I did mine. Eric
> Pitts also did his this
> way. I have seen this on others as well.
> http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI 
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KR> Oshkosh

[Bob Glidden]

Mark Wegmet wrote:

The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still go, fly in, but expect to
fly out... contact them, they like home built planes, after all; that's what
EAA is all about.


They have plenty of room to camp out.If you really want to enjoy Oshkosh,camp 
out and tell stories like the rest of us.I would not be surprised to see 
several KR's there this year.And if you really want info on KR's you need to 
attend the cook out at Mark Jone's hanger the Sunday before.That is what 
Oshkosh is all about is the people.And better yet plan to attend the KR 
gathering in September,you get a lot of good info there and again plenty of 
room to camp..

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> Oshkosh

[Mark Wegmet]

I must admit that last year I was a member of the "dark-side" as I was
looking at GlasAir's, Lancair's, and RV's... sorry, didn't notice the KR's.
Also, I was only there on the last Saturday. I had to "fly" a '96 Firebird
at 2000 rpm (78 mph) on the ground [no less] to get there [it took 2 1/2
hours from Powers Lake WI].

I'll try to do better this year :-)


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:17 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh

Mark,
Last year we had six KR's at Airventure. Did you not see them? Five of us 
flew in together and another showed up later. We all camped out right there 
on the EAA grounds. It is never too late if you really want to go.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Wegmet" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh


> The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
> reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still go, fly in, but expect 
> to
> fly out... contact them, they like home built planes, after all; that's 
> what
> EAA is all about.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Bob Glidden
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:55 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Oshkosh
>
> Mark Wegmet wrote:
> It is too late for this year,but you guy's have some fantastic 
> planes...show
>
> your colors dudes.
>
>
> Why is it too late for this year,Oshkosh is not till July.
>
>
> Bob Glidden
> Eminence,Indiana
> KR2S (Building)
> Corvair 110
> glid...@ccrtc.com
>
>
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KR> Oshkosh

[Brian Kraut]

The only reason I can see for staying at a hotel instead of camping at
Oshkosh, the gathering, or Sun and Fun is if you have to take your wife to
be allowed to go and she refuses to camp.

Of course if that is your reason you need to reconsider your priorities.
After all, you build a KR to keep forever.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Bob Glidden
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:24 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Oshkosh


Mark Wegmet wrote:

The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still go, fly in, but expect to
fly out... contact them, they like home built planes, after all; that's what
EAA is all about.


They have plenty of room to camp out.If you really want to enjoy
Oshkosh,camp out and tell stories like the rest of us.I would not be
surprised to see several KR's there this year.And if you really want info on
KR's you need to attend the cook out at Mark Jone's hanger the Sunday
before.That is what Oshkosh is all about is the people.And better yet plan
to attend the KR gathering in September,you get a lot of good info there and
again plenty of room to camp..

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com
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KR> not quite so fast!

[Darren Crompton]

How's about 178mph = 284km/h

Now that looks fast!!



On 6/7/07, Randy Smith  wrote:
>
> I use MPH on all planes. I go faster that way.
>
>
> --- Mark Langford  wrote:
>
> > NetHeads,
> >
> > For almost a year I'd been thinking that my top
> > speed was something like 168
> > mph TAS, and now with the 3100cc engine, 178 mph
> > TAS.   But week before last
> > I was out flying around over Guntersville Lake on a
> > very calm day and
> > thought I'd do a quick two way wide open GPS run up
> > and down the river.  The
> > result was only 149 mph...with exactly the same
> > number in both directions
> > (no math required!).   At these speeds, the airspeed
> > indicator is very
> > accurate, at least I'd thought so up until now.
> > This really had me
> > buffaloed, as I was so sure that all my testing
> > couldn't have been off that
> > much.
> >
> > So last weekend I flew up to middle Ohio to a
> > Scirocco thing, and there was
> > still this disparity between the GPS and the ASI,
> > and the laptop's GPS
> > agreed with the Lowrance GPS, so it's 2:1, but the
> > EIS agrees with the ASI
> > perfectly, so now it's 2 to 2.  What's up with
> > this...static/pitot has been
> > lying to me or what?  Then I was looking at pictures
> > that I took of my
> > laptop screen on the way back from Ohio, and noticed
> > the letters "kts" after
> > the speed on the display.  Then I remembered that a
> > few weeks ago I updated
> > both the firmware on the Lowrance, and the software
> > on the laptop, and they
> > were both reset back to the default of knots rather
> > than mph!  Multiply 149
> > mph x 1.15 and correct for TAS and now we're close
> > to 178.   I'm a happy boy
> > once again...
> >
> > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> > mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> > website: www.N56ML.org
> >
> >
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KR> Oshkosh

[Mark Wegmet]

I'm all ears... Mark J, where is your hangar this year (B&G is still on the
table) I'd like to come to your gig; and where is the 'gathering this
September' for those of us who are still "students" with airplanes, but
"experts" (yeah right) with high performance machines?

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Bob Glidden
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:24 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Oshkosh

Mark Wegmet wrote:

The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
reserve a year (or more) in advance. You can still go, fly in, but expect to
fly out... contact them, they like home built planes, after all; that's what
EAA is all about.


They have plenty of room to camp out.If you really want to enjoy
Oshkosh,camp out and tell stories like the rest of us.I would not be
surprised to see several KR's there this year.And if you really want info on
KR's you need to attend the cook out at Mark Jone's hanger the Sunday
before.That is what Oshkosh is all about is the people.And better yet plan
to attend the KR gathering in September,you get a lot of good info there and
again plenty of room to camp..

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com
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KR> 1835 great planes engine for sale

[Coda Riley]

Anyone needing a 1835 vw great planes with diehl accessory case,,electric 
start,,charging system,,,turnkey ready to go,,see it fly,,$2750 
ObO,,,(918)658-4028,,,Poteau, Oklahoma,,,or will swap it for a 582 rotax or 
high HP 2 cycle.  Thank's,

  Coda Riley


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KR> 1835 great planes engine for sale

[Mark Wegmet]

Pictures, hours, etc.?

Contact me offline, let's chat.

Mark

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Of Coda Riley
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:40 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> 1835 great planes engine for sale

Anyone needing a 1835 vw great planes with diehl accessory case,,electric
start,,charging system,,,turnkey ready to go,,see it fly,,$2750
ObO,,,(918)658-4028,,,Poteau, Oklahoma,,,or will swap it for a 582 rotax or
high HP 2 cycle.  Thank's,

  Coda Riley


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KR> project status

[AVLEC]

Jeff,
I made my turtle deck very similar to yours. I made a framework by cutting
four squares of 1/4'' ply all the same size. I marked out the turtledeck
shape at each of the four stations and then cut out the shapes. I then built
up a framework from a few 2x4 bits of scrap pine that positioned the four
plies at the correct distances from each other. Into this I forced a sheet
of the thinnest galvanized sheet I could find and fastened it in place. Into
this I laid up two layers of  200g BID.
while this was getting tacky I took a sheet of 3/8 foam and ripped it into
20mm strips. I then took these strips and laid them up onto the previously
laid glass using micro slurry as adhesive. It looks just like a classic
yacht hull when finished. After this had cured, I sanded the inside smooth
and laid up one layer of 200g BID (after vacuuming up all the dust). After
this had cured for two days I removed it from the jig/mould, trimmed it and
fit it to the fuselage. I havn't weighed it but it is extremely light and I
am sure that I could stand on top of it without it breaking. A bonus was the
outside surface is perfectly smooth and shiny so no sanding.
Regards
Dene Collett
KR2SRT builder
South africa
Whisper assembler
See: www.whisperaircraft.com
mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
- Original Message -
From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: KR> project status


>
> well all, I think I have a winner!  I've attempted to make a turtle deck,
> this is now the 3 attempt.

KR> Oshkosh

[Dan Heath]

Our EAA Chapter gets a block of rooms each year, for it's members and we
still have some.  Your Chapter may do the same, check with them.   I wanted
to go, but the way things are going, I am going to be lucky to make the
gathering.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---


The closest place to sleep is 100 miles away. These guys are serious; they
reserve a year (or more) in advance. 

It is too late for this year,but you guy's have some fantastic planes

Why is it too late for this year,Oshkosh is not till July.

KR> project status

[Dan Heath]

Any pics of that process.  Sounds interesting. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: AVLEC
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 06/07/07 00:03:49
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> project status

Jeff,
I made my turtle deck very similar to yours. I made a framework by cutting
four squares of 1/4'' ply all the same size. I marked out the turtledeck
shape at each of the four stations and then cut out the shapes. I then built
up a framework from a few 2x4 bits of scrap pine that positioned the four
plies at the correct distances from each other. Into this I forced a sheet
of the thinnest galvanized sheet I could find and fastened it in place. Into
this I laid up two layers of  200g BID.
while this was getting tacky I took a sheet of 3/8 foam and ripped it into
20mm strips. I then took these strips and laid them up onto the previously
laid glass using micro slurry as adhesive. It looks just like a classic
yacht hull when finished. After this had cured, I sanded the inside smooth
and laid up one layer of 200g BID (after vacuuming up all the dust). After
this had cured for two days I removed it from the jig/mould, trimmed it and
fit it to the fuselage. I havn't weighed it but it is extremely light and I
am sure that I could stand on top of it without it breaking. A bonus was the
outside surface is perfectly smooth and shiny so no sanding.
Regards
Dene Collett
KR2SRT builder
South africa
Whisper assembler
See: www.whisperaircraft.com
mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
- Original Message -
From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: KR> project status


>
> well all, I think I have a winner!  I've attempted to make a turtle deck,
> this is now the 3 attempt.




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KR> Oshkosh

[Mark Jones]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Wegmet" 


> I'm all ears... Mark J, where is your hangar this year (B&G is still on 
> the
> table) I'd like to come to your gig; and where is the 'gathering this
> September' for those of us who are still "students" with airplanes, but
> "experts" (yeah right) with high performance machines?


I am based at Waukesha, WI (KUES). We have a mini KR Gathering, cook out, 
and all fly to Oshkosh as a group. However, this year, I am in the process 
of moving and have to vacate my home here by July 13th. I am moving to 
Stevens Point, WI (KSTE). Right now, I am not sure if my KR Mini Gathering 
will be at Waukesha or Stevens Point. Either way, I will have the Mini 
Gathering. If we still do it at Waukesha, those that arrive on Saturday, 
including myself, can sleep in the hangar or you can camp out by the hangar 
or get a hotel room. Personally, it is a very nice hangar and I will sleep 
there on an air mattress. If we have it at Stevens Point, I have a T-hangar 
there and hopefully will be in my new home by Airventure. So stay tuned for 
more details to follow.

The KR Gathering is in Mount Vernon, Illinois (KMVN). Here is all the info: 
http://krgathering.org/

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com


>

KR> Oshkosh / Gathering

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 10:37 PM 6/6/2007, you wrote:
>and where is the 'gathering this
>September' for those of us who are still "students" with airplanes, but
>"experts" (yeah right) with high performance machines?
>++


http://www.krgathering.org/

has all the info you need.

Larry Flesner

KR> Re: KR > Oshkosh

[Mark Jones]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Wegmet" 


> I'm all ears... Mark J, where is your hangar this year (B&G is still on 
> the
> table) I'd like to come to your gig; and where is the 'gathering this
> September' for those of us who are still "students" with airplanes, but
> "experts" (yeah right) with high performance machines?


I am based at Waukesha, WI (KUES). We have a mini KR Gathering, cook out, 
and all fly to Oshkosh as a group. However, this year, I am in the process 
of moving and have to vacate my home here by July 13th. I am moving to 
Stevens Point, WI (KSTE). Right now, I am not sure if my KR Mini Gathering 
will be at Waukesha or Stevens Point. Either way, I will have the Mini 
Gathering. If we still do it at Waukesha, those that arrive on Saturday, 
including myself, can sleep in the hangar or you can camp out by the hangar 
or get a hotel room. Personally, it is a very nice hangar and I will sleep 
there on an air mattress. If we have it at Stevens Point, I have a T-hangar 
there and hopefully will be in my new home by Airventure. So stay tuned for 
more details to follow.

The KR Gathering is in Mount Vernon, Illinois (KMVN). Here is all the info: 
http://krgathering.org/

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com

KR> off topic: Davis plans wanted

[Oscar Zuniga]

If anybody has a set of plans for the Davis DA-2 that they want to sell, 
please contact me off-net.

Thanks.

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

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KR> RE: Gluing Techniques

[Brad Payne]

> Some old fashioned waxed paper would have heped avoid the chisel.

>Don Lively

I'm curious,  Where would you put the wax paper or tape it that would not
interfere with the glue joint between the 5/8" material and the plywood?  To
be clear, the goal that flipping would accomplish is to keep the 5/8"
material clean.  I did not have a problem with gluing the side to the table
if that;s what you thought I was chiseling!


-- 
Brad Payne
www.n494bp.com
bradleyspa...@gmail.com

KR> (no subject)

[william Clapp]

I know this is a bit different from a corvair guy, but is anybody interested in 
a O-200 engine core?  I have the case, crank, gears and rear housing and some 
other parts.  No Mags, or cylinders (they were toast).

  I also have a complete running O-200 available that belonged to a friend of 
mine.  Sell everything as a package or two seperate units.

  Asking 1500.00 for the core and 3500.00 for the complete engine.

  Email me back privately ... ifly...@billclapp.com

  Bill


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KR> RE: Gluing Techniques

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KR> Radio noise------TKM MX 11

[kenneth l wiltrout]

My TKM MX11 has dramatic noise that I hear through the headset when
transmitting on the lower end ie:118.20 etc. At the upper end it's very
quiet. Any of you electronics wiz's have any suggestions? Is it a squelch
thing?

Kenny Wiltrout
Kutztown, Pa

KR> Radio noise------TKM MX 11

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

>
>My TKM MX11 has dramatic noise that I hear through the headset when
>transmitting on the lower end ie:118.20 etc. At the upper end it's very
>quiet. Any of you electronics wiz's have any suggestions? Is it a squelch
>thing?
>Kenny Wiltrout
++

I'm not the wiz you're looking for but I think that's the very same
radio I put in the Tripacer.  GREAT plug and play unit.  It was
a direct replacement for what I had before.

I doubt if it's a squelch problem.  That should affect receive only.
As I recall it had a squelch adjustment on the front panel.  You
tune the radio to a "non-used" frequency and adjust the squelch
to eliminate any noise on the output.  Presto, it's set.

I'm GUESSING you have a wiring problem.  Antenna lead too close
to the intercom, poor ground, or something along those lines.
Are you nav and comm antennas too close or the wiring crossing
or crossed?  I had great service for hundreds of hours from mine.
Don't give up on the unit.

I also recall it having a "test" button on the front panel.  If you are
slightly out of range from an AWOS or are getting a broken signal
from some other transmitter, just hit the "test" button and it
overrides the squelch so you can hear a weak signal.

Larry Flesner

KR> EAA Hotline

[Mark Jones]

I just received my online copy of the EAA Hotline. There is a story there about 
the SWRFI in Texas and lo and behold, there is a photo there with Jack 
Daugherty's KR2 in it. Here is the link: 
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/070601_texas.html

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com

KR> project status

[Phil Matheson]

Jeff wrote
well all, I think I have a winner!  I've attempted to make a turtle deck, 
this is now the 3 attempt.

Check out how Scott Cable did his deck.
My deck is very similar. Very light.


http://krbuilder.org/ScottCable/index.html

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/

KR> email address

[Robin Macdonald]

Coda Riley,

Would you send me an email off net please, I tried sending one to you but it 
came back.

Thanks 

Robin
 r.macdon...@clear.net.nz 

KR> oil information

[Brian Kraut]

I found this link on oils for air cooled engines that I thought would be
helpfull.  I hesitate to send something that will open the "my oil is better
than your oil" debate, but here goes ayway.

http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

KR> EAA Hotline

[Fred Johnson]

I think that picture is in the new Sport Aviation too under the Sun and
Fun article.

Fred Johnson

-Original Message-


I just received my online copy of the EAA Hotline. There is a story
there about the SWRFI in Texas and lo and behold, there is a photo there
with Jack Daugherty's KR2 in it. Here is the link:
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/070601_texas.html

KR> KR2S plans

[psh...@netscape.com]

I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read about the 
delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have a pristene set of 
plans and or just started project for sale? Reply to psh...@netscape.com, oh 
yeh I live in South Mississippi.
IHS  PAT S

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KR> KR2S plans

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
about delays, Virg

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700  writes:
> 
> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read 
> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have 
> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply 
> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
> IHS  PAT S
> 
> _
> Netscape.  Just the Net You Need.
> 
> ___
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> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> Post photos, introductions, and For Sale items to 
> http://www.kr2forum.com/phpBB2/index.php
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
> 
> 

KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[Robert E Kirby Sr]

Subject
 F-82
Don:t think so , the one I saw was at Elgin, in 1972, with turbo. contact
trap3...@aol.com He was station there and crewed a B47 drone , in the 60s
I sure he would know something about it//its was a sight to see.
Bob K

KR> KR2S plans

[skp...@charter.net]

Just put a check in the mail for the plans and the supplement for the "S".  
Start getting your shop in order. Your plans will arrive without a phone call. 
You will then need to send in the registration page and let the fun begin.

Also let us know who and where you are.  KR people get around a lot and might 
be able to stop by to see your progress and help with questions. I travel to 
south Mississippi quite often.

Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama


 psh...@netscape.com wrote: 
> 
> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read about the 
> delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have a pristene set of 
> plans and or just started project for sale? Reply to psh...@netscape.com, oh 
> yeh I live in South Mississippi.
> IHS  PAT S
> 

KR> KR2S plans

[Dan Heath]

Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
either keep at it, or build something else. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 06/08/07 15:40:00
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans

Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
about delays, Virg

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700  writes:
>
> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read
> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have
> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply
> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
> IHS  PAT S
>
> _
> Netscape.  Just the Net You Need.
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at
> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
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> http://www.kr2forum.com/phpBB2/index.php
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>
>


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KR> KR2S plans

[D Lively]

Pat:

I purchased my original set of plans from Ken Rand himself at his office in 
Huntington Beach in '76.  I since took over a project  complete with plans.  I 
spoke with Jenette Rand at the last gathering and about a month ago I got 
around to transferring the registration of the plans I got with my project via 
fax about a month ago and about a week later or so she called to confirm all of 
 the information with me by telephone.  She did this though there was nothing 
additional in it for her.

I am sure she will contact you but be patient for at this time of  year there 
are many EAA Fly-ins and suspect she attends many which means there will be a 
lot of time away from the office and it is as businesses go a small operation 
but she is dedicated.

Donald Lively
Burlington IA 52601




- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


> Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
> left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
> either keep at it, or build something else. 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
> Date: 06/08/07 15:40:00
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans
> 
>Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
> about delays, Virg
> 
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700  writes:
>>
>> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read
>> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have
>> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply
>> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
>> IHS  PAT S
>>
>> _
>> Netscape.  Just the Net You Need.
>>
>> ___
>> Search the KRnet Archives at
>> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>> Post photos, introductions, and For Sale items to
>> http://www.kr2forum.com/phpBB2/index.php
>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>>
>>
> 
> 
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>

KR> KR2S plans

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
> left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
> either keep at it, or build something else.

I guess if you're a trend analyst, the next step in this progression would
be a check in a bottle...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> KR2S plans

[John]

I have an original receipt for plans that came with my kr2, but the
plans are all 8 1/2 by 11" photocopies.  were the original plans full
sized?  I have no rib or former templates, etc.

jg

KR> project status

[Michael Taglieri]

Do most people here think  the instructions in the plans on how to
make the turtle deck are not a good way to do it?

Mike Taglieri

On 6/6/07, AVLEC  wrote:
> Jeff,
> I made my turtle deck very similar to yours. I made a framework by cutting
> four squares of 1/4'' ply all the same size. I marked out the turtledeck
> shape at each of the four stations and then cut out the shapes. I then built
> up a framework from a few 2x4 bits of scrap pine that positioned the four
> plies at the correct distances from each other. Into this I forced a sheet
> of the thinnest galvanized sheet I could find and fastened it in place. Into
> this I laid up two layers of  200g BID.
> while this was getting tacky I took a sheet of 3/8 foam and ripped it into
> 20mm strips. I then took these strips and laid them up onto the previously
> laid glass using micro slurry as adhesive. It looks just like a classic
> yacht hull when finished. After this had cured, I sanded the inside smooth
> and laid up one layer of 200g BID (after vacuuming up all the dust). After
> this had cured for two days I removed it from the jig/mould, trimmed it and
> fit it to the fuselage. I havn't weighed it but it is extremely light and I
> am sure that I could stand on top of it without it breaking. A bonus was the
> outside surface is perfectly smooth and shiny so no sanding.
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> KR2SRT builder
> South africa
> Whisper assembler
> See: www.whisperaircraft.com
> mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
> - Original Message -
> From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:04 PM
> Subject: KR> project status
>
>
> >
> > well all, I think I have a winner!  I've attempted to make a turtle deck,
> > this is now the 3 attempt.
>
>
>
>
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KR> KR2S plans

[kenneth l wiltrout]

It's funny how it works with the FAA, 8 yrs ago during the certification
process they asked what the ser # was, I could have said anything but I used
the # Jenette gave me. I got the impression they just wanted a # and could
care less. The last thing the FAA will do is check up on anything
experimental.

Kenny Wiltrout
Kutztown, Pa

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of D Lively
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:59 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: psh...@netscpe.com
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans

Pat:

I purchased my original set of plans from Ken Rand himself at his office in
Huntington Beach in '76.  I since took over a project  complete with plans.
I spoke with Jenette Rand at the last gathering and about a month ago I got
around to transferring the registration of the plans I got with my project
via fax about a month ago and about a week later or so she called to confirm
all of  the information with me by telephone.  She did this though there was
nothing additional in it for her.

I am sure she will contact you but be patient for at this time of  year
there are many EAA Fly-ins and suspect she attends many which means there
will be a lot of time away from the office and it is as businesses go a
small operation but she is dedicated.


Donald Lively
Burlington IA 52601





- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


> Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
> left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
> either keep at it, or build something else. 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
> Date: 06/08/07 15:40:00
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans
> 
>Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
> about delays, Virg
> 
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700  writes:
>>
>> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read
>> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have
>> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply
>> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
>> IHS  PAT S
>>
>> _
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>>
>> ___
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>> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
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>> http://www.kr2forum.com/phpBB2/index.php
>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>>
>>
> 
> 
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KR> KR2S plans

[D Lively]

John:

There Plans I have and even the original set had Full size inboard & outboard 
plywood rib dwgs plus a full size bulk head drawing plus a few other of some 
lesser metal parts.  Those full size plywood rib & firewall drawings are 
indispensable as you can accurately trace them to piece of paper or using 
carbon paper transfer the outline to a template which makes things easier and 
less prone to you making an error.

I do not think you have everything.  The large rib template were not continuous 
mut multi-piece with match lines but they were full size.  I then copied them, 
put the match lines together & guled it onto a piece of masonite and made a 
full size template to assure all ribs were the same.

I am sure that with the reciept No. she will get you what you need but you may 
need to pay something for the copies & shipping.  She may also what an 
explanation about the copy you have to assure that someone did not violate RR 
copyrights.   She knows who the plans were sold to originally.

Don Lively
Burlington IA




- Original Message - 
From: "John" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


>I have an original receipt for plans that came with my kr2, but the
> plans are all 8 1/2 by 11" photocopies.  were the original plans full
> sized?  I have no rib or former templates, etc.
> 
> jg
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> project status

[D Lively]

Mike:

As with anything you do there are many ways to "Skin the Cat" and many ways ave 
been used to get to the end result depending onwhat tools, materials, methods 
and skills you have available and many different approaches have been used .  I 
suggest that you use the KRnet fvenue and review the many approachs you find 
there and even inquire of those whose work and advice you find presented there. 
 Many Mods, Tricks and approaches are shared and have led to very good finished 
examples all around the world.

Don Lively
Burlington IA



- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Taglieri" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: KR> project status


> Do most people here think  the instructions in the plans on how to
> make the turtle deck are not a good way to do it?
> 
> Mike Taglieri
> 
> On 6/6/07, AVLEC  wrote:
>> Jeff,
>> I made my turtle deck very similar to yours. I made a framework by cutting
>> four squares of 1/4'' ply all the same size. I marked out the turtledeck
>> shape at each of the four stations and then cut out the shapes. I then built
>> up a framework from a few 2x4 bits of scrap pine that positioned the four
>> plies at the correct distances from each other. Into this I forced a sheet
>> of the thinnest galvanized sheet I could find and fastened it in place. Into
>> this I laid up two layers of  200g BID.
>> while this was getting tacky I took a sheet of 3/8 foam and ripped it into
>> 20mm strips. I then took these strips and laid them up onto the previously
>> laid glass using micro slurry as adhesive. It looks just like a classic
>> yacht hull when finished. After this had cured, I sanded the inside smooth
>> and laid up one layer of 200g BID (after vacuuming up all the dust). After
>> this had cured for two days I removed it from the jig/mould, trimmed it and
>> fit it to the fuselage. I havn't weighed it but it is extremely light and I
>> am sure that I could stand on top of it without it breaking. A bonus was the
>> outside surface is perfectly smooth and shiny so no sanding.
>> Regards
>> Dene Collett
>> KR2SRT builder
>> South africa
>> Whisper assembler
>> See: www.whisperaircraft.com
>> mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:04 PM
>> Subject: KR> project status
>>
>>
>> >
>> > well all, I think I have a winner!  I've attempted to make a turtle deck,
>> > this is now the 3 attempt.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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KR> Wings and wheels @ Alliance Oh

[Joseph H Horton]

Hey Guys,
Just got back from a day trip to Barber field in Alliance Oh. 
Fro me it was the first real flight since the nose gear failure 3 weeks
ago. I have my original Sterba prop on and in the summer heat it is not a
stellar performer. Just to much pitch. Any way I didn't even decide if I
was going until after I had climbed a couple thousand feet this morning
and nothing went wrong. It was a nice flight out in post frontal air with
a head wind of about 15 mph. The 300 miles was done in about 2h 30 min. I
had to try 3 time to get her on the turf at Barber The 1st pass the plane
landing ahead of me took awhile to roll out and taxi to the exit. The 2nd
an ultralight that had been sitting on the side pulled out and started to
taxi down the runway just as I was flaring for touch down. I fire walled
it and made the pass on the right of him about 10 ft. above and less than
10 ft to his right just so he knew I was there.. Barber is the shortest
field I have tried and also grass. I was stopped and turned around with
abut 500 ft left.
Pete, Ron and the chapter there had a nice breakfast set up and
plenty of enthusiasm to go around. It was a beautiful day after a round
of storms that went though last night. A guy in a Peit was giving some
rides and there was some static displays. But the KR contingent ruled the
day. I got there abut 9:30 with Ken Jones and the pig arriving shortly
after. Larry Fleshner arrived around 10:30 with Mark Langford  arriving
in his style with a nice fast low pass.. Joseph Snow arrived early
afternoon with his Q2 on a trailer and the covair mounted up front. just
to show and tell. He's a better man than  me. That was a lot of work to
get a nearly completed airplane mounted to a trailed and hauled to a fly
inn for the day.
I left Barber field right behind Ken, but I just had to sneak up
from behind the guys and give them one little fly by and off for home.
The trip home was exactly 2 hours flight time burning just 4 gal/hr at
9500 ft. no tailwind but no head wind either. Unfortunately grass is not
where my plane should be. When I landed at home I heard a noise from the
front. Something had tore a chunk out of the bottom of the nose fairing.
But had a great time anyway and got to see some dear friends
I figure the 4 of us flew nearly a combined 2000 miles today to
be there for Pete's gang.
The flying and the friends really is better than the building of the
plane.

Joe Horton
Coopersburg, Pa.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

KR> Site update - upcoming trip

[william Clapp]

Hey ya'll,   I would like you to check out my web site,  billclapp.com   and a 
couple new and more complete items.   I finally finished more of my biography 
and also added a new page - "Current Adventures".   Check out my last trip.  I 
will soon be doing a similar trip out to Colorado, so if you want to get in on 
it let me knowI have more stuff coming soon, such as a build up page of my 
KR and some flying stuff.  Also will have more on some of my projects and cars 
and such.  Please enjoy!.


  Bill Clapp



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KR> Site update - upcoming trip

[skp...@charter.net]

I enjoyed Bill's visit and would like to say.
Thanks for the nice comments.  Everyone needs to take advantage of visits by 
other KR experienced builders.  The visits help keep you on track.
I think I saw a 64 VW like I drove in High School in Bill's Pictures. I'm I 
getting old?

Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama


 william Clapp  wrote: 
> Hey ya'll,   I would like you to check out my web site,  billclapp.com   and 
> a couple new and more complete items.   I finally finished more of my 
> biography and also added a new page - "Current Adventures".   Check out my 
> last trip.  I will soon be doing a similar trip out to Colorado, so if you 
> want to get in on it let me know!.
>
>
>   Bill Clapp
>
> 
>

KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

[Brad Payne]

What is an acceptable tolerance while working on the alignment of the
fuselage?  If I am 1/16 or 1/8 out of square (example. from center line to
outside of longeron on one side is 16" and the center line to other side is
16 1/8") is this acceptable?

I am having issues getting any more accurate then 1/8 or 1/16 while aligning
the the fuselage sides prior to gluing.  I have tried making formers and
several clamping mechanisms. Am I being to picky not to accept a 1/16"
difference?

-- 
Brad Payne
www.n494bp.com
bradleyspa...@gmail.com

KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

[Dan Heath]

Larry Flesner, has a very simple way to align the fuse.  Larry, where is
that documented? 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: Brad Payne
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 06/09/07 23:12:58
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

What is an acceptable tolerance while working on the alignment of the
fuselage?  If I am 1/16 or 1/8 out of square (example. from center line to
outside of longeron on one side is 16" and the center line to other side is
16 1/8") is this acceptable?

I am having issues getting any more accurate then 1/8 or 1/16 while aligning
the the fuselage sides prior to gluing.  I have tried making formers and
several clamping mechanisms. Am I being to picky not to accept a 1/16"
difference?

--
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www.n494bp.com
bradleyspa...@gmail.com
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KR> New ? Kr in Tennessee

[Steve Bray]

KR people

A KR was seen flying over Covington Tennessee several times this last week.  
I wasn't aware of one being in West Tennessee.  Anyone know who this might 
be?



Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee

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KR> Wings and wheels @ Alliance Oh

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

A big THANK YOU to Pete and Ron and all the members of EAA Ch. 82
for their wonderful hospitality and generosity at the fly-in at Barber Field
at Alliance, Oh.

477 miles straight line with detour for fuel going over.  Flight time was
3 hours 20 minutes with tailwind.  Awesome breakfast, great weather,
barley water in the evening, another good meal, hotel room, another
good breakfast, formation with Mark Langford for two hours on the
return, stopped in for a milk shake at a small grass strip with lots
of neat airplanes, another stop at the local "drop zone" on the way
home to see some skydiving buddies, and did I mention the tailwind
on the return flight.  Well over 1000 miles with 8.1 on the hour meter
with all the messing around.  All in all a Y H
weekend.

Thanks again, chapter 82  See you guys at the Gathering.

Larry  Flesner

KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

[Bob Glidden]

Brad
I have not seen a lot of replies to this and I'm no expert,but I would think 
that a 16th is pretty good and as I've heard many times and you will get 
used to saying "close enough for KR work" Good luck and happy building.

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 

KR> Engine Wanted for Potential KR2 Project

[Benjamin Copeland]

I'm considering a KR2 project and want to know if there are any complete 2180s 
or close size engine for sale. If I can get a used, good engine, then I might 
be able to work out (i.e., afford) a deal on the airframe. 

I want a ready to run and mountable engine. Prefer dual ignition but not 
required. I do want full accessories including, oil cooler, alternator, 
starter, exhaust, and carb. It would be even better if it had a prop and 
spinner too.  The plane previously had an 1835 VW.  

Because of low opportunity to travel, I need one close to Charlotte, NC or one 
that can be shipped. Please email me off-line if you can provide a lead or info.
Thanks!
Ben
(some day, some how, I'm GONNABE)

just2...@together.net

KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

[Mark Langford]

Bob Glidden wrote:

> I have not seen a lot of replies to this and I'm no expert,but I would
think
> that a 16th is pretty good and as I've heard many times and you will get
> used to saying "close enough for KR work" Good luck and happy building.

I second that motion.  That sixteenth could turn into an eighth, or even
"perfect" next week due to humidity in the wood, but if mine had been with
only a 1/16" error, I'd have had to open a bottle of champagne!

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

[Richard Hasbrook]

Hi all, I was going to be smart, and find the standard tolerance that they
used for the drawings, however in looking at the plans, they do not give a
+/- tolerance to go with. I have been a Mechanical Drafter for 17 years, and
have never seen a drawing without a standard tolerance block on it. My
standard tolerances for 2 place or fractional at work is .0625 or 1/16th,
however that is on a door. Fractional tolerances I have seen up as high as
1/8th inch, depending on the equipment it is being used on. The thing you
want remember is to get it as close as you can to what they list on the
drawings. There is no such thing as a perfect assembly. There will always be
some variance. However, you have to ask yourself, what is this part going to
do, is it moving or mating? If not, then you can probably get by w/ 1/8th
inch tolerance, +/-. On the fuselage, I would get it as close to the listed
# as possible, and glue it up and move on.  Have a good one. 

Dick
KR2S, (Plans now moved closer to me)
Salol, MN

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Of Bob Glidden
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:26 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

Brad
I have not seen a lot of replies to this and I'm no expert,but I would think

that a 16th is pretty good and as I've heard many times and you will get 
used to saying "close enough for KR work" Good luck and happy building.

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 


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KR> acceptable Tolerances for building

[Bob Glidden]

I second that motion.  That sixteenth could turn into an eighth, or even
"perfect" next week due to humidity in the wood, but if mine had been with
only a 1/16" error, I'd have had to open a bottle of champagne!

My KR world is crushed Mark I just knew all your tolerances were within a 
half thousand :)


Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S (Building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 

KR> OT: Bit and brace?

[D Lively]

Ron & Netters:

If they have estate auctions in your area check a few of them out,  They 
generally sell them off early in the day unless they are really old.

Don




- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Butterfield" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR> OT: Bit and brace?


> Lehman's Hardware in Kidron, Ohio has all kinds of non-power tools and
> appliances.
> 
> http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=6072&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=brace
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/2gejfx
> 
> I still have the one from my dad in my toolbox. It's probably older than I am.
> 
> On 6/2/07, David Lininger  wrote:
>> Anyone have a good source for an old-fashioned bit and brace? Dad had
>> one years ago, but when they moved to the retirement home he sold a lot
>> of his stuff, and I think that must have gone then.
> -- 
> Regards,
> RonB
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KR> Triaxle sees the Sun

[Eric Pitts]

Well the triaxle made it's way out of the garage for the first time today. Take 
a look at HTTP://eric.pitts.mystarband.net/indexk.html

Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Indiana
KR2S
eric.pi...@starband.net

KR> Triaxle sees the Sun

[Mark Jones]

Looking good Eric.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Pitts" 
To: "KRNET" 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:52 PM
Subject: KR> Triaxle sees the Sun


> Well the triaxle made it's way out of the garage for the first time today. 
> Take a look at HTTP://eric.pitts.mystarband.net/indexk.html
>
> Eric Pitts
> Terre Haute, Indiana
> KR2S
> eric.pi...@starband.net
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KR> Triaxle sees the Sun

[Lee Van Dyke]

GREAT looking engine mount,  where did you get it and how long did it take 
to make




> Well the triaxle made it's way out of the garage for the first time today. 
> Take a look at HTTP://eric.pitts.mystarband.net/indexk.html
>

KR> Triaxle sees the Sun

[Barry Kruyssen]

I love the curves.

That curved fuselage looks awesome.

Regards
Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm



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Of Eric Pitts
Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 11:52 AM
To: KRNET
Subject: KR> Triaxle sees the Sun

Well the triaxle made it's way out of the garage for the first time today.
Take a look at HTTP://eric.pitts.mystarband.net/indexk.html

Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Indiana
KR2S
eric.pi...@starband.net
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KR>Engine run??

[Phil Matheson]

Well today I finished off the engine installation, and fired her up!!

But I can not get the right bank to run. It only runs on the two left
cylinders,

Stromberg CD Carburettor.

It has compression, Spark, timing is right,
fuel in both carb float bowls, spark plug leads are on in the right order.
No blocked intake manifolds, Suction at the carb inlet.

I removed the right carb, pulled it down, could not find any defects, fuel
of fuel.refitted it, still the same, I coughed the carb manually, not
change. No fuel getting to cylinders.

Both R exhaust , were cold to touch, and cylinder head temps cold. left side
hot. ???

I'll keep playing when I get time again.

Must be a major block in that R carb, but the main

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/

KR> Triaxle sees the Sun

[Eric Pitts]

Now Lee you are not trying to stir things up are you?

> GREAT looking engine mount,  where did you get it and how long did it
> take  to make
-- 
Eric Pitts
Terre Haute Ind.
http://eric.pitts.mystarband.net

KR>Engine run??

[Charlie Morehead]

Phil,

  Why not switch Carburettors to see if the problem is in the Carb.

  Jim Morehead
  Cameron Park, CA
  N522PC

Phil Matheson  wrote:
  Well today I finished off the engine installation, and fired her up!!

But I can not get the right bank to run. It only runs on the two left
cylinders,

Stromberg CD Carburettor.

It has compression, Spark, timing is right,
fuel in both carb float bowls, spark plug leads are on in the right order.
No blocked intake manifolds, Suction at the carb inlet.

I removed the right carb, pulled it down, could not find any defects, fuel
of fuel.refitted it, still the same, I coughed the carb manually, not
change. No fuel getting to cylinders.

Both R exhaust , were cold to touch, and cylinder head temps cold. left side
hot. ???

I'll keep playing when I get time again.

Must be a major block in that R carb, but the main

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL: phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/


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KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[Lee Van Dyke]

Netters,

Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, I think it 
was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a wing.  Like aP-38, but 
this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me any information or am I nuts?

Lee Van Dyke
Mesa AZ 85212
l...@vandyke5.com
N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"

KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[Lee Van Dyke]

Sorry I had a brain fart P-82 
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm i answered my own 
question

Lee


- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:48 PM
Subject: KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION


> Netters,
>
> Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, I think 
> it was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a wing.  Like 
> aP-38, but this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me any information or 
> am I nuts?
>
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ 85212
> l...@vandyke5.com
> N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"
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KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[Eric Pitts]

What about the NUTs part?

Eric Pitts
Terre Haute Ind.
http://eric.pitts.mystarband.net

> Sorry I had a brain fart P-82
> http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm i answered my own
>  question
>
> Lee
>
>
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KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[Fritz]

It was called a F or a P-82, there was one of these on display at Lowery
AFB in the 50"s.!
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION


> Netters,
>
> Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, I think 
> it was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a wing.  Like 
> aP-38, but this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me any information or 
> am I nuts?
>
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ 85212
> l...@vandyke5.com
> N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"
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KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[D Lively]

Lee:

I can be wrong but I'm sure that it did happen and I think it led to the P-38 
Lightning.-- Maybe a check on Lockheeds development of the P-38

Don




- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION


> Netters,
> 
> Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, I think it 
> was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a wing.  Like aP-38, 
> but this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me any information or am I nuts?
> 
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ 85212
> l...@vandyke5.com
> N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"
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KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[oldbiker...@aol.com]

Go to Google under p82  for pictures.
Ray



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KR>Engine run??

[Colin Rainey]

Must be a major block in that R carb, but the main

Phil, use carb spray while running and fog over the inlet and make the right
side hit. If the rpms go up and that side runs, then the carb is bad, maybe
a jet plugged or not drilled out correctly. Exchange the carb for a good
one. Also, check that the signal vacuum port underneath is not plugged up,
or blocked. If no vacuum signal, no fuel flow; same with my Mikuni carbs on
the Yamaha V-Star.

Colin Rainey
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KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure

[John]

I just made a deposit on  a new long block 2180 for
my KR2.

I am in the Seattle area and virtualy surrounded by mountains.

I have only 150 hours PIC, but in a pretty wide variety of
craft (C-150, Musketeer, C-172, Champ, C-120,
C-150 Long range, beech 1900 etc...  All of them seem (except the 1900)
to run out of "guts" at about 9K feet.  I can't remember ever making 10k
feet, they all were naturally aspirated.  Going over a 4k to 6k mountain
range just to leave town leaves me wanting to clear those "Don't land
here" speed bumps by oh, say, 5k or 6k ft.  Can't get there from
"naturally aspirated" here.  

I am not a speed or performance demon. I fly like I drive:
sort of slow and methodical.  But I want to clear those rocks
(and the bigger ones east of there) by a wider margin.

So,, I want a turbo charger.  I can find one, but I have not been able
to find a controller for the waste gate that will limit the intake
manifold pressure to 29.92 inches of mercury.  Or I suppose 
open the waste gate at 3700 rpm.

Any ideas?

Thanks

jg

KR> flight planning your life

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

For the last nine days I've had my oldest daughter and our two eight week old
twin grand babies staying with us.  This weekend my youngest daughter and
friend were home to attend a wedding where they provided the guitar music and
vocals.  All in all a week to remember.  Life is good !!

With all that was going on I hadn't had my KR "fix" for the 
week.  After everyone left
for home today I headed to the airport to get in 1.5 hours in the KR, 
soaring about
at 8,500 feet amongst  the towering Columbus and having a good time.

On my way to the airport I was passed by a sheriff's car  hauling 
someone off to jail.
I couldn't help thinking of the contrast.  Here I was, off to soar 
with the eagles and he
had just had his wings clipped.  When it comes to life, good flight planning
is essential.

Have a good week...

Larry Flesner

KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

P-38 was 1930's, Virg

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 18:37:41 -0500 "D  Lively" 
writes:
> Lee:
> 
> I can be wrong but I'm sure that it did happen and I think it led to 
> the P-38 Lightning.-- Maybe a check on Lockheeds development of the 
> P-38
> 
> Don
>
-
---
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lee Van Dyke" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:48 PM
> Subject: KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION
> 
> 
> > Netters,
> > 
> > Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, 
> I think it was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a 
> wing.  Like aP-38, but this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me 
> any information or am I nuts?
> > 
> > Lee Van Dyke
> > Mesa AZ 85212
> > l...@vandyke5.com
> > N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"
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KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

A P-82. Not made fron 2 P-51's . Korea era, Virg

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:48:51 -0700 "Lee Van Dyke" 
writes:
> Netters,
> 
> Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, I 
> think it was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a 
> wing.  Like aP-38, but this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me 
> any information or am I nuts?
> 
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ 85212
> l...@vandyke5.com
> N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"
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> 

KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure

[D Lively]

John:

I would say that your proposed use of a turbo charger is its best use but 
personally have flown C-172s to 13,000 & C-182s  to over 15000'  for short 
periods but view 12,500 ft about the limit for sustained operation by a 
non-smoking pilot or passenger without Oxygen.  I believe the craft you site 
all have service cielings in the 14000 area anyway.  Beware of over-boosting as 
it can be  hard on engines and shorten their life.

Having been in and out of Prescott AZ several times as well as high density 
altitude conditions in the Calif. Central Valley and those of the CA deserts I 
can understand your position very well.

Don Lively



- Original Message - 
From: "John" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure


> 
> 
> I just made a deposit on  a new long block 2180 for
> my KR2.
> 
> I am in the Seattle area and virtualy surrounded by mountains.
> 
> I have only 150 hours PIC, but in a pretty wide variety of
> craft (C-150, Musketeer, C-172, Champ, C-120,
> C-150 Long range, beech 1900 etc...  All of them seem (except the 1900)
> to run out of "guts" at about 9K feet.  I can't remember ever making 10k
> feet, they all were naturally aspirated.  Going over a 4k to 6k mountain
> range just to leave town leaves me wanting to clear those "Don't land
> here" speed bumps by oh, say, 5k or 6k ft.  Can't get there from
> "naturally aspirated" here.  
> 
> I am not a speed or performance demon. I fly like I drive:
> sort of slow and methodical.  But I want to clear those rocks
> (and the bigger ones east of there) by a wider margin.
> 
> So,, I want a turbo charger.  I can find one, but I have not been able
> to find a controller for the waste gate that will limit the intake
> manifold pressure to 29.92 inches of mercury.  Or I suppose 
> open the waste gate at 3700 rpm.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jg
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Fw: Fuel tank construction

[Mark Langford]

Somebody asked me a question this morning, and the following is my reply.  I 
think it falls under the heading of things that I'd do differently given 
another chance.  I need to update my fuel tank page with it.

> For fuel connections I would cut out a round aluminum plate out of 3/8" 
> aluminum, drill and tap a 3/8" NPT hole in the middle, and build this into 
> the structure as you build the tanks.  Cut out the foam, substitute the 
> aluminum block, and glass right over it on the inside, then drill a hole 
> through it later from the outside (and vacuum out the chips).  Put several 
> layers of glass around these to reinforce them so you can install an AN-6 
> fitting later without tearing them out.  Drains can be done the same way. 
> I tried just floxing aluminum tubing into the top, and one of my tanks 
> leaks when full because I didn't do a perfect job.
>
> Don't use the black plastic fillers that I used.  Wicks and AS&S both sell 
> a large plastic (white, I think) filler with a knurled aluminum collar 
> which you flox into the tank.  That way you can see how much fuel you have 
> while filling it.  My small black plastic filler tube leaves it a mystery 
> until the fuel spills out the top.  It's also big enough that a child's 
> hand could reach in there to jiggle a stuck fuel sender or to remove 
> debris.

There are some other details on making my fuel tanks at 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/wingtank.html and
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/swings.html .  I guess I should add these 
comments to one of them.

 Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
 see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
 email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION

[Sheena Toor]

Yep, it existed as a experiment.

David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:48 PM
Subject: KR> AIRPLANE QUESTION


> Netters,
>
> Not a KR question, I thought I remember seing photos of a fighter, I think 
> it was used at night, but it was 2 P-51 fuselages put on a wing.  Like 
> aP-38, but this was 2 p-51's used.  Can anybody give me any information or 
> am I nuts?
>
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ 85212
> l...@vandyke5.com
> N783JB  Flying  "Snakebite"
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
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> 

KR> RE: Turbo-Normalizing a KR

[Robin Wills]

G'day John.

There's been quite a few things written on Turbo-ing a KR over the
years, so the Archives could yield a good wastegate.

Something I have briefly thought about, but not researched much, is
using a blow-off valve from some Doof-Doof Boy-Racer's Japanese Import.
You know the ones where they go tearing off the line and there is that
loud "Psst". After asking around and a brief google search, they
come in different sizes and pressure's, although I am not sure how
reliable they would be in an aviation environment. 

As I see it, you would only be using it to reduce manifold pressure if
you INadvertently over-boost your engine and it would be used much like
a warning light, dumping excessive pressure and giving you time to
reduce your throttle position. So it isn't used.

Another option is to use a small turbocharger that doesn't give you the
performance to overboost your engine. Afterall, unless you run a CSU,
your RPM will increase for a fixed MP as you climb due to the lower air
density. IIRC my theory component...

Just a thought.

Cheers,
Rob.

Robin Wills
Second Person, Pacific National
KR-2 19-4594, Ser # N111

krvia...@bigpond.com

KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure

[John]

Hi,

I forgot the piper 180 that took 2 hours to climb to 8k feet in the 
downhill (read downwind) side of a mountain range.

I have never gotten anything naturally aspirated to 10k.  Perhaps
I did not have the time to wait (or the distance)..

jg 

Gotta get high fast..








On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 21:42 -0500, D Lively wrote:
> John:
> 
> I would say that your proposed use of a turbo charger is its best use but 
> personally have flown C-172s to 13,000 & C-182s  to over 15000'  for short 
> periods but view 12,500 ft about the limit for sustained operation by a 
> non-smoking pilot or passenger without Oxygen.  I believe the craft you site 
> all have service cielings in the 14000 area anyway.  Beware of over-boosting 
> as it can be  hard on engines and shorten their life.
> 
> Having been in and out of Prescott AZ several times as well as high density 
> altitude conditions in the Calif. Central Valley and those of the CA deserts 
> I can understand your position very well.
> 
> Don Lively
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:11 PM
> Subject: KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I just made a deposit on  a new long block 2180 for
> > my KR2.
> > 
> > I am in the Seattle area and virtualy surrounded by mountains.
> > 
> > I have only 150 hours PIC, but in a pretty wide variety of
> > craft (C-150, Musketeer, C-172, Champ, C-120,
> > C-150 Long range, beech 1900 etc...  All of them seem (except the 1900)
> > to run out of "guts" at about 9K feet.  I can't remember ever making 10k
> > feet, they all were naturally aspirated.  Going over a 4k to 6k mountain
> > range just to leave town leaves me wanting to clear those "Don't land
> > here" speed bumps by oh, say, 5k or 6k ft.  Can't get there from
> > "naturally aspirated" here.  
> > 
> > I am not a speed or performance demon. I fly like I drive:
> > sort of slow and methodical.  But I want to clear those rocks
> > (and the bigger ones east of there) by a wider margin.
> > 
> > So,, I want a turbo charger.  I can find one, but I have not been able
> > to find a controller for the waste gate that will limit the intake
> > manifold pressure to 29.92 inches of mercury.  Or I suppose 
> > open the waste gate at 3700 rpm.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > jg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___
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> >
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KR>Engine run??

[Phil Matheson]

Colin.
I can not find any  info on the Stromberg.
Where is the signal vacuum port??

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/

KR> Facet Fuel pump

[Phil Matheson]

Question.
Does the facet fuel pump stop making a noise when the carbie bowls are full?
My pump primes all the system, then quiets down, but never strops making a 
noise when the engine is NOT running???

I thought most Elect pumps stop pumping when fuel is not required?


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/ 

KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure

[D Lively]

John:

On the down wind side of the mountain you will have very strong headwinds 
because the air is accelerated to very much higher as it rises(Bernoulli 
Effect) and then will take a while to slow down as the ground falls away all 
the while giving you a major down draft to fight as well.  When ever I flew 
from So. CA to IL I would cross the ridge between Las Vegas & Santa Fe NM at 
either 11,500 ft or 12,500 ft but if I had to stop in either place I would stop 
after crossing the ridge in my direction of travel because both were tucked in 
so close to the ridge.  Mountain flying techniques are quite strongly stressed 
when you lear tto fly out west for the very reasons you have mentioned.  It is 
easy to get into situations with small craft that are difficult to get out of.

Don




- Original Message - 
From: "John" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure


> Hi,
> 
> I forgot the piper 180 that took 2 hours to climb to 8k feet in the 
> downhill (read downwind) side of a mountain range.
> 
> I have never gotten anything naturally aspirated to 10k.  Perhaps
> I did not have the time to wait (or the distance)..
> 
> jg 
> 
> Gotta get high fast..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 21:42 -0500, D Lively wrote:
>> John:
>> 
>> I would say that your proposed use of a turbo charger is its best use but 
>> personally have flown C-172s to 13,000 & C-182s  to over 15000'  for short 
>> periods but view 12,500 ft about the limit for sustained operation by a 
>> non-smoking pilot or passenger without Oxygen.  I believe the craft you site 
>> all have service cielings in the 14000 area anyway.  Beware of over-boosting 
>> as it can be  hard on engines and shorten their life.
>> 
>> Having been in and out of Prescott AZ several times as well as high density 
>> altitude conditions in the Calif. Central Valley and those of the CA deserts 
>> I can understand your position very well.
>> 
>> Don Lively
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John" 
>> To: "KRnet" 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:11 PM
>> Subject: KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I just made a deposit on  a new long block 2180 for
>> > my KR2.
>> > 
>> > I am in the Seattle area and virtualy surrounded by mountains.
>> > 
>> > I have only 150 hours PIC, but in a pretty wide variety of
>> > craft (C-150, Musketeer, C-172, Champ, C-120,
>> > C-150 Long range, beech 1900 etc...  All of them seem (except the 1900)
>> > to run out of "guts" at about 9K feet.  I can't remember ever making 10k
>> > feet, they all were naturally aspirated.  Going over a 4k to 6k mountain
>> > range just to leave town leaves me wanting to clear those "Don't land
>> > here" speed bumps by oh, say, 5k or 6k ft.  Can't get there from
>> > "naturally aspirated" here.  
>> > 
>> > I am not a speed or performance demon. I fly like I drive:
>> > sort of slow and methodical.  But I want to clear those rocks
>> > (and the bigger ones east of there) by a wider margin.
>> > 
>> > So,, I want a turbo charger.  I can find one, but I have not been able
>> > to find a controller for the waste gate that will limit the intake
>> > manifold pressure to 29.92 inches of mercury.  Or I suppose 
>> > open the waste gate at 3700 rpm.
>> > 
>> > Any ideas?
>> > 
>> > Thanks
>> > 
>> > jg
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ___
>> > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>> > Post photos, introductions, and For Sale items to 
>> > http://www.kr2forum.com/phpBB2/index.php
>> > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>> >
>> ___
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> 
> 
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