KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

We were looking for INTELEGENCE 

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Good Grief!

Why  is there all this inane discussion, about ELTs or any other  
regulations? 


It's  such a simple procedure to e-mail the FAA.


Geeez . . . . . . . . . 




An  ELT, in my opinion, is the same type of 'insurance'
as  motorcycle helmets on road machines and shoulder
harnesses & roll-over reinforcements in  aircraft.

I've  always figgered that anyone stooopid enough to do without these cheap 
but very  effective forms of protection deserves to die.   Period.

Darwin referred to the survival of the  fittest.
Me  dear sainted Mother referred to it as, "Purification of the gene  pool."

Geez . . . . . . . .  
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

A-MEN

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Well said. Thank you  for the back-up about ELTs, Spot, whatever. 

Kinda like the NRA sez  about personal defense weapons & the legality of 
carryin' 'em:  Better  to be 'caught' with that concealed 9mm than to be 
'caught' without it . . . . .  . . .
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

You're looking for common sense in the wrong place. The government. But not
going to the 406 is not very sensible either. la...@lebanair.com

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Of Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:42 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

I have to agree.

There were 8 people rescued in 5 incidents by aviation ELTs in 2009
according to NOAA/NTSB last year. They go off correctly 75% of the time,
originally it was 25% for the first generation. A major part of the
reason for going to 406Mhz is that each one has a identifier. They can
look up the identifier and usually eliminate a false alarm with a few
phone calls instead of sending out search and rescue only to have them
end up at the airport or a private airfield. 
On the other hand PLBs were instrumental in 3 times as many rescues and
the Marine equivalent of Elts were responsible for the vast majority  of
rescues at sea. When you consider the damage a plane will usually
sustain in an accident or when over water a fixed ELT seems like a poor
option to a PLB which you could activate if you survive and perhaps move
to a better area for sending a signal than buried under a canopy of
trees upside down. Bottom line though is it is mandatory until we can
talk them into allowing PLBs as a substitute. 

Personally I think items like SPOT are much more functional and useful
than a ELT.

Rodney

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 13:57
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Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside
the fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on
a boar hog.  Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips
the antenna off, the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the
ground.  Even if it does transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass
before they find you using the outdated triangulation search techniques.
High priced, worthless insurance in my book...but that is my opinion
only:-)  A spot at least provides a track and general area to start
looking.

With that said, single seat no, more than one yes.  Outdated FAA

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

Too much time to make new regulations and not enough time or intelligence to
do anything beneficial. FAA (Government)

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:57 AM
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Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside the
fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on a boar
hog.  Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips the antenna
off, the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the ground.  Even if it
does transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass before they find you
using the outdated triangulation search techniques. High priced, worthless
insurance in my book...but that is my opinion only:-)  A spot at least
provides a track and general area to start looking.

With that said, single seat no, more than one yes.  Outdated FAA

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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KR> ELT's

[John T Shaffer]

Yes,I am the builder,owner,and pilot of KR-2 N455JS, who was found in a VERY 
dense woods outside of Mobile,Alabama,in 1986. Even though more than a dozen 
people saw me go down from nearby, they found me with an aircraft tracking my 
ELT. Even though my radio was not tuned to 121.5, I could hear the Whoop,Whoop 
of the ELT signal bleeding through my headset,which was still inside the 
aircraft,as I lay on the left wing center section. It was sweet music to my 
ears, but not as sweet as the engine noise of a passing aircraft,[The search 
plane] ,that turned around and started to circle me in the air.They directed 
ground personnel to me. Think it won't ever happen to you? I hope you're right. 
I wouldn't fly a single seater cross country without one,required or not. John 
T Shaffer,N455JS

KR> fuel

[Edward Spyker]

More likely $2 retail and $2.50 tax!
"I wonder if producing fuel for 2 bucks a gallon translates into 3 or 4 bucks a 
gallon at the pump or is the 2 bucks a gallon the target retail price?  Mark 
up, delivery, storage etc. Steve Bennett"

KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[jtw...@aol.com]

Well said. Thank you  for the back-up about ELTs, Spot, whatever. 

Kinda like the NRA sez  about personal defense weapons & the legality of 
carryin' 'em:  Better  to be 'caught' with that concealed 9mm than to be 
'caught' without it . . . . .  . . .

KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Mark Wegmet]

I think this falls under the category (cliché) of "it is better to have it
and not need it, than to need it and not have it".

JMHO

Mark W.
N952MW

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:56 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

Cheap insurance?
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/avselector.php

The least expensive listed at aircraft spruce is $750.00 Most are over a
thousand. The vast majority of people will never need one and
historically they have caused more false alarms than rescues. Has anyone
on the list ever had an accident where an ELT was instrumental in their
rescue?

KR> Hard Shell

[Dan Heath]

For another point of view, I tried the "hard shell" and found it so
difficult to work with, that I will never do it again.  I suggest you do a
test to see if you can be successful with this method before you mess up
your nicely sanded foam base.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

If you plan to do the wing glass lay up as a one man operation, I 
suggest you do the "hard shell" process that has been discussed on 
the net several times in the past.  

KR> Good News, Great News, "OK its not open Friday"

[Larry Flesner]

Jeff,

Congratulations!!!  Glad to hear you'll be an ongoing member of the 
KR community.  See you at the Gathering.

Larry Flesner

KR> Slick finnish.

[Jeff York]

I used the micro ballon method years ago on another project. You have to mix it 
to the consistancy of peanut butter as I recall and aslo as I recall I had some 
problems working it in such a way as to get it to stick. 
 
I still have a bunch of it and as for the weight difference, I can not give you 
any scientific evidence to support my statement but it so light, its almost 
like working with air if that makes sense.
 
Jeff York
KR-2

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, MICHAEL SYLVESTER  wrote:


From: MICHAEL SYLVESTER 
Subject: KR> Slick finnish.
To: "KRNET" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 10:39 PM



Hey Guy's, I finally have the wings covered with foam and am looking forward to 
glassing them asap(which is always a month longer than I had planned.) Is peel 
ply the way to go for a slick finish and why is there not a good web site for 
the cosmetics on the KR ? The reason I ask is I attended a composite class 
while at Sun N Fun and the speaker recommended, after wetting out the glass and 
sqeegeing off the excess to pour dry micro balloons over the wing and brush it 
around to fill in the weave. After drying just rake the excess back into the 
can. He said that this would be lighter than the peelplying method but how much 
weight are we talking here ? Is there a best way to do this ? 

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854

              
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210]

I have to agree.

There were 8 people rescued in 5 incidents by aviation ELTs in 2009
according to NOAA/NTSB last year. They go off correctly 75% of the time,
originally it was 25% for the first generation. A major part of the
reason for going to 406Mhz is that each one has a identifier. They can
look up the identifier and usually eliminate a false alarm with a few
phone calls instead of sending out search and rescue only to have them
end up at the airport or a private airfield. 
On the other hand PLBs were instrumental in 3 times as many rescues and
the Marine equivalent of Elts were responsible for the vast majority  of
rescues at sea. When you consider the damage a plane will usually
sustain in an accident or when over water a fixed ELT seems like a poor
option to a PLB which you could activate if you survive and perhaps move
to a better area for sending a signal than buried under a canopy of
trees upside down. Bottom line though is it is mandatory until we can
talk them into allowing PLBs as a substitute. 

Personally I think items like SPOT are much more functional and useful
than a ELT.

Rodney

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+rodney.r.hall.ctr=navy@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dana Overall
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 13:57
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside
the fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on
a boar hog.  Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips
the antenna off, the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the
ground.  Even if it does transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass
before they find you using the outdated triangulation search techniques.
High priced, worthless insurance in my book...but that is my opinion
only:-)  A spot at least provides a track and general area to start
looking.

With that said, single seat no, more than one yes.  Outdated FAA

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Dana Overall]

Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside the 
fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on a boar hog. 
 Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips the antenna off, 
the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the ground.  Even if it does 
transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass before they find you using the 
outdated triangulation search techniques. High priced, worthless insurance in 
my book...but that is my opinion only:-)  A spot at least provides a track and 
general area to start looking.

With that said, single seat no, more than one yes.  Outdated FAA

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210]

Cheap insurance?
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/avselector.php

The least expensive listed at aircraft spruce is $750.00 Most are over a
thousand. The vast majority of people will never need one and
historically they have caused more false alarms than rescues. Has anyone
on the list ever had an accident where an ELT was instrumental in their
rescue?

As I understand it they are nor required for a single place plane but
must be installed in a 2 place or larger plane per the FAA.
I would have to agree with you about helmets and seatbelts but don't
think an ELT is in the same class as these active, immediate protective
devices. An ELT sends a signal saying "hey someone crashed over here" It
does nothing to PREVENT injury. It is more of a "Lets require this so we
know where to go for the bodies."

Rodney

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Of jtw...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:22
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Good Grief!

Why  is there all this inane discussion, about ELTs or any other
regulations? 


It's  such a simple procedure to e-mail the FAA.


Geeez . . . . . . . . . 




An  ELT, in my opinion, is the same type of 'insurance'
as  motorcycle helmets on road machines and shoulder
harnesses & roll-over reinforcements in  aircraft.

I've  always figgered that anyone stooopid enough to do without these
cheap 
but very  effective forms of protection deserves to die.   Period.

Darwin referred to the survival of the  fittest.
Me  dear sainted Mother referred to it as, "Purification of the gene
pool."

Geez . . . . . . . .  
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Jack Cupp]

single place no elt required. Everyone else yes.  Jack C

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:22 AM,   wrote:
>
> Good Grief!
>
> Why  is there all this inane discussion, about ELTs or any other
> regulations?
>
>
> It's  such a simple procedure to e-mail the FAA.
>
>
> Geeez . . . . . . . . .
>
>
>
>
> An  ELT, in my opinion, is the same type of 'insurance'
> as  motorcycle helmets on road machines and shoulder
> harnesses & roll-over reinforcements in  aircraft.
>
> I've  always figgered that anyone stooopid enough to do without these cheap
> but very  effective forms of protection deserves to die.   Period.
>
> Darwin referred to the survival of the  fittest.
> Me  dear sainted Mother referred to it as, "Purification of the gene  pool."
>
> Geez . . . . . . . .
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KR> Slick finnish.

[Lee Parker]

I wouldn't put anything on dry.  It leaves you open to air pockets under the 
finish which causes bubbles in the paint later on.  Peel ply works and helps 
remove excess resin.

--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Dan Heath  wrote:


From: Dan Heath 
Subject: RE: KR> Slick finnish.
To: "'KRnet'" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:45 AM


I like peel ply.  I know it works.  If the micro does not wet out, then it
will just flake off and you will not have accomplished anything.  A quick
test on a small piece should tell the tale.  Not sure about the "lighter"
either as peel ply actually sucks up excess resin, but I will bet we are
talking grams here.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


-Original Message-

pour dry micro balloons over the wing and brush it around to fill in the
weave. After drying just rake the excess back into the can. He said that
this would be lighter than the peelplying method but how much weight are we
talking here ? Is there a best way to do this ? 

Mike Sylvester 


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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[jtw...@aol.com]

Good Grief!

Why  is there all this inane discussion, about ELTs or any other  
regulations? 


It's  such a simple procedure to e-mail the FAA.


Geeez . . . . . . . . . 




An  ELT, in my opinion, is the same type of 'insurance'
as  motorcycle helmets on road machines and shoulder
harnesses & roll-over reinforcements in  aircraft.

I've  always figgered that anyone stooopid enough to do without these cheap 
but very  effective forms of protection deserves to die.   Period.

Darwin referred to the survival of the  fittest.
Me  dear sainted Mother referred to it as, "Purification of the gene  pool."

Geez . . . . . . . .  

KR> ELT's

[jtw...@aol.com]

AYE!  in God we trust . . . . . . . .

Everyone else pays with cash!





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KR> ELT's

[Larry H.]

The ELT has to be a self activating type. These turn themselves on when a high 
enough g load is applied.(as in a crash or hard enough landing occurs)
Here are some examples at Aircraft Spruce

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/av/elt.html


Larry Howell





From: Larry Knox la...@lebanair.com

Subject: RE: KR> ELT's

Spot does not and neither does a personal ELT. la...@lebanair.com my
understanding.




Lee Van Dyke wrote:
> Is an ELT required in  all aircraft in the USA.  ie even the KR?  

Does "Spot" qualify as an acceptable ELT? 

Jay W. Hughes

N128JH 

American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


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KR> ELT's

[Larry Knox]

Spot does not and neither does a personal ELT. la...@lebanair.com my
understanding.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:50 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT's

Single place NO able to carry passengers YES,  Virg


Lee Van Dyke wrote:
> Is an ELT required in  all aircraft in the USA.  ie even the KR?  

Does "Spot" qualify as an acceptable ELT? 

Jay W. Hughes

N128JH 

American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


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KR> fuel

[Larry Knox]

We know transportation and distribution is going to be a bear as with Avgas
and having to be transported and stored in totally separate trucks as per
FAA. It is supposed to be $2.00 at the pump. Can't see it happening though.
la...@lebanair.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:18 AM
To: krnet
Subject: KR> fuel


I wonder if producing fuel for 2 bucks a gallon translates into 3 or 4 bucks
a gallon at the pump or is the 2 bucks a gallon the target retail price?
Mark up, delivery, storage etc.

Steve Bennett

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KR> Slick finnish.

[Teate, Stephen]

When I started "finishing" my KR Mark sent me this link. It is excellent and it 
works, at least read it because it does shoot down some of the old ideas of 
filling, sanding, filling, sanding...etc. You probably know this but I will go 
ahead and say it anyway. You are now at the most critical visual point of your 
project. Hopefully, no one will ever see the craftsmanship you used on the 
interior of your spars but everyone who ever looks at your plane will see how 
you finished it. The finish must be as perfect as you can make it. Paint will 
NOT hide any imperfections, it will accentuate them like a neon sign so make 
sure the surface is as good as you can make it. I used the silk weave on top of 
the outer layer and then peelply on top of that so that if I did happen to sand 
a little too far I would be into the silk weave and not the skin. Whichever 
method you choose, start on the bottom and finish that first. By the time you 
get to the top you will be much better at finishing. 

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas 

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Mark Jones
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:03 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Slick finnish.

Here is a system you may want to consider:
http://curedcomposites.netfirms.com/finish.html


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

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From: "MICHAEL SYLVESTER" 
To: "KRNET" 
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:39 PM
Subject: KR> Slick finnish.



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KR> ELT's

[j...@aol.com]

Single place NO able to carry passengers YES,  Virg


Lee Van Dyke wrote:
> Is an ELT required in  all aircraft in the USA.  ie even the KR?  

Does "Spot" qualify as an acceptable ELT? 

Jay W. Hughes

N128JH 

American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


In God we  trust!

KR> Slick finnish.

[Larry Flesner]

At 09:39 PM 2/15/2010, you wrote:

>Hey Guy's, I finally have the wings covered with foam and am looking 
>forward to glassing them asap(which is always a month longer than I 
>had planned.) Is peel ply the way to go for a slick finish and why 
>is there not a good web site for the cosmetics on the KR ?
>Mike Sylvester
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A "slick" finish will depend on the amount of fill and sand and the 
paint you use.  Getting it as light as possible and with the least 
amount of work starts with doing a good job sanding the foam.  If you 
don't get the foam right you're just a dog chasing it's tail the rest 
of the way.

If you get the foam as "perfect" as possible the KR cloth will wet 
out to a contour that requires the least amount of fill and 
sanding.  What I did, and what I recommend, is when the KR cloth is 
wetted out, cover the entire wing with "deck cloth", a 1.5 ounce 
glass.  It has a finish like a nylon stocking and requires very 
little fill.  If it is applied while the KR cloth is still wet, it 
will soak up excess resin from below and require very little 
additional resin to wet out.  The "deck cloth" from Wick's is wide 
enough to cover the entire wing in one piece.  Just lay in on, dry 
brush and tug at the edges to remove all wrinkles and finally, brush 
on any additional resin required to wet it out.  I'm convinced the 
few ounce of weight you're adding per wing is equal to or less than 
the amount of fill required to fill the weave on the KR cloth and 
you're doing it with a lot less work, not to mention the extra 
strength the glass adds.

If you plan to do the wing glass lay up as a one man operation, I 
suggest you do the "hard shell" process that has been discussed on 
the net several times in the past.  To "hard shell" you simply seal 
the foam with an epoxy / micro slurry and let it cure.  Do a light 
sanding, one or two  swipes with some sand paper to remove any 
prickles that tend to snag the glass if you slide it around on the 
foam, then do the glass lay up as usual.  The glass to foam bond is 
just as strong as doing the entire process in a single 
operation.  Sealing the foam takes some time and remember, you're 
dealing with cure time of the epoxy.  Making it a two step process 
made the operation a lot easier for me.  Try making two small test 
blocks using each process and, when cured, peal off the glass.  See 
if you can tell any difference on the bond.

The critical part of the process is the glass to spar bond.  Make 
sure the spar wood is clean and ready to soak in as much pure resin 
as possible.  That's one area you don't want a "dry lay up".

Get the foam right and the rest is a down hill slide.

Good luck

Larry Flesner

KR> ELT's

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Single place NO able to carry passengers YES, Virg


Lee Van Dyke wrote:
> Is an ELT required in all aircraft in the USA.  ie even the KR?  
>
> There are e-mails in the archives, but it appears that was for Canada.  The 
> FAA web site will make you brain bleed.  I need a quick and easy answer.
>
> Lee Van Dyke
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KR> fuel

[STEVE bennett]

I wonder if producing fuel for 2 bucks a gallon translates into 3 or 4 bucks a 
gallon at the pump or is the 2 bucks a gallon the target retail price?  Mark 
up, delivery, storage etc.

Steve Bennett

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KR> Slick finnish.

[Dan Heath]

I like peel ply.  I know it works.  If the micro does not wet out, then it
will just flake off and you will not have accomplished anything.  A quick
test on a small piece should tell the tale.  Not sure about the "lighter"
either as peel ply actually sucks up excess resin, but I will bet we are
talking grams here.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


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pour dry micro balloons over the wing and brush it around to fill in the
weave. After drying just rake the excess back into the can. He said that
this would be lighter than the peelplying method but how much weight are we
talking here ? Is there a best way to do this ? 

Mike Sylvester 

KR> ELT's

[Dan Heath]

The last I heard on it is that if it is a 2 place plane, not 2 persons ever
flying in it, but just 2 place, it had to have an ELT, but if it were a
single place, it was not required.  But you know the FAA.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

Is an ELT required in all aircraft in the USA.  ie even the KR?