KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread Jim Ellison 


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> Thanks to everyone. I am going to rethink my firewall plans.
> 
> No beefing up of the firewall area is required.  In fact, the 3x3 angle
> is not even needed if the engine mount is properly designed to connect.

KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread Larry Flesner 
At 06:49 PM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>Jeanette Rand once stated that an engineer once analyzed the 
>firewall and it is good for 22G's.


I'm sure that was using a VW and not and not the heavier 0-200 or Corvair.

Larry Flesner

KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread Larry Flesner 
At 07:15 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>If you put a full 1/2 inch pice of 9 ply wood and then. The 
>aluminum  3 inch angle. Behind it. With the 5 attach points engine 
>mount. From great planes.
>What does the neters  think about this compination ??
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Way over built !!!  The firewall itself is not what breaks it's the 
attachment to the 
boat.  see:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/100_1231.JPG

Jeanette Rand once stated that an engineer once analyzed the firewall 
and it is good for 22G's.  I did add a single layer of KR clothe to 
the vertical edges with a two inch overlap on the ply sides.  I also 
used 3/4" X 3 1/2" spruce cross pieces top and bottom instead of the 
5/8" X 3" spruce.  My 0-200 hangs on a HAPI VW mount which does not 
place the mount near the longerons but more to the center of the 
firewall.  Marty Roberts had a stock firewall with the same mount for 
his 0-200 and pulled 6 G's.  Is thats strong enough?

I'll admit to never having made a hard landing :-) to check my setup 
and have not pulled more than maybe 2.5 or 3 G's ever but my engine 
is still hanging out there.

Larry Flesner

KR> FW: 1 NEW: marvel schebler ma3-spa 10-4894. Off topic???

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KR> Gathering update

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Visk 


I just got off the phone with Donny from the restaurant at the airport. He will 
add the drinks for the buffets for free. That is a $2.00 savings. The only 
stipulation is that Larry has to bring his guitar. So Larry I hope you don't 
forge. ?: )?Also for the people flying in. The 20 cent discount for fuel will 
be taken off at the time of purchase. Just mention you are there for the 
Gathering.?
Last thing, Scott Wick from Wicks Aircraft will bring orders placed by Thursday 
Sep.15, 2016 to the Gathering with him on Friday. So if you want free shipping 
just mention it when you order.?
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KR> Ellison EFS-2

2016-09-09 Thread laser147 at juno.com 
Sorry! . . . I forgot to put the subject in the subject line when sending
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> "Mine is an Ellison EFS-2,No longer in production but still one of the
best . . ."

That was true for some time Tommy but not any longer.  They are in
production.   I've specifically checked recently on the EFS-2.  Company
is now owned by KR family member and EFS-2 models are shipping.

Mike Stirewalt
KSEE
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2016-09-09 Thread laser147 at juno.com 
> "Mine is an Ellison EFS-2,No longer in production but still one of the
best . . ."

That was true for some time but not any longer.  They are in production. 
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KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread Jim Ellison 
If you put a full 1/2 inch pice of 9 ply wood and then. The aluminum  3 inch 
angle. Behind it. With the 5 attach points engine mount. From great planes. 
What does the neters  think about this compination ??

KR> FW: 1 NEW: marvel schebler ma3-spa 10-4894. Off topic???

2016-09-09 Thread Tommy Waymack 
Mine is an Ellison EFS-2,No longer in production but still one of the best
if you can find one,Tommy W,

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet 
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KR> 14mm shielded spark plugs

2016-09-09 Thread Tommy Waymack 
I found some similar plugs while rumageing through my shop.Will bring them
to the gathering should I get the chance.Still in cosmoline.Tommy W.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
wrote:

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> I don't know if any of you VW guys are using a magneto with shielded plugs
> anymore, but I seem to have run across an inventory of 14MM shielded spark
> plugs and would appreciate any help some of you might be able to provide in
> identifying these plugs and and identifying whether they are useful for any
> of the aero VW applications.
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> The plugs I found are all new old stock Champion XEH-10, XEJ-11, XEF-14Y,
> and XMJ-17.  The XMJ-17 plugs also have a second number MS35909-2. The
> XMJ-17 was a shielded plug for a military Willys Jeep, and some of the
> others are identified as military use for air cooled Wisconson V-4 engines
> that were used in the military.  What I don't know is if these had any
> application for the Aero VW engines, or possibly in the Franklin engines.
> If they do, I'll be happy to pass them on for what they cost me to buy,
> which isn't much.
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KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread n357cj 
And to think, I have always been opposed to destructive testingbut for 
those that need the proof... Thank you
Joe Horton, N357CJ
See yall next week..

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 

for what I mean by that.  I tore a gear leg off the plane and bent the
engine mount (with a 250 pound Corvair hanging off of it), and my 1/4"
"per plans" firewall is still firmly attached...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL

KR> Fuel gauges- senders

2016-09-09 Thread Phillip Matheson 

EBay Item Number :  271963271721


What about something like this. Its for water, but with plastics these days 
It could be OK, anyone know about plastics?
Phil

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KR> KR Poll, last chance ENOUGH!!!!!!

2016-09-09 Thread Phillip Matheson 


Tap the bottom of the print, press and hold back button till it deletes all 
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KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread n357cj 
Guys ,
This seems all correct information to me and the one point that may be a missed 
concideration is that the firewall is not the final and ultimate structural 
component. The bolts that hold the engine mount to the firewall is where the 
concern for proper building is focused. The firewall plywood essentially 
becomes one big gusset holding the entire front structure in rack.
Joe Horton, N357CJ

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Visk via KRnet" 
me

That should have said "good clamp design". You do want even pressure over the 
entire firewall. With were the firewall is there is no obvious place to clamp 
it down. ?
I have seen pictures of builders shaving a little off the front of the frame 
with a router to get a perfect glue joint with the fire wall.

You always want to let the epoxy soak into both surfaces before lightly 
clamping down.?

And if you get squeeze out, you know your joint is not starved

KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

2016-09-09 Thread ml at n56ml.com 
Jim Ellison wrote:

> If you put a full 1/2 inch pice of 9 ply wood and then. The aluminum  3 inch 
> angle. Behind it. With the 5 attach points engine mount. From great planes. 
> What does the neters  think about this compination ??

No beefing up of the firewall area is required.  In fact, the 3x3 angle
is not even needed if the engine mount is properly designed to connect
at the corners, rather than out near the middle like the original
design.  See the photo at the bottom of http://www.n56ml.com/kfuse.html
for what I mean by that.  I tore a gear leg off the plane and bent the
engine mount (with a 250 pound Corvair hanging off of it), and my 1/4"
"per plans" firewall is still firmly attached...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com

KR> last chance ENOUGH!!!!!! - SOLUTION

2016-09-09 Thread Chris Prata 
I have suggested a computerized solution that adds a unique string of 
characters after a message before it is sent to the list, then any replies are 
screened for that and everything after that string is deleted.


If the poster wants to include something from the original they will have to 
cut and paste it to above the "delete after" string.


That reverses this from an unwinnable "active" rule to follow to an automatic 
"passive" action where the poster has to do nothing to comply, and when they 
want to include something from the original msg. they have to cut and paste.


But what do I know.



From: KRnet  on behalf of Dj Merrill via KRnet 

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 4:28 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Dj Merrill
Subject: Re: KR> last chance ENOUGH!!

On 09/08/2016 04:08 PM, Joel LaRock via KRnet wrote:
> Well put

Thanks, Joel.  I do appreciate the support.

Intending this as positive, constructive feedback, I did have to cringe
a bit though since you didn't trim any of the previous text (leaving the
entire message I sent in your reply), and you put your reply at the top,
which is exactly what I was saying not to do...  :-)

Guys and gals, can we put our collective minds together and come up with
a way to solve this issue?  What Mark is asking us to is very simple,
and I think we should be able to help the group to learn how to reply to
the messages properly.

-Dj

KR> KR Poll, last chance ENOUGH!!!!!!

2016-09-09 Thread Phillip Hill 
On Android, touch the reply arrow like always. Then touch the small up
arrow, top right of the reply box. This will show you the quoted text. Now,
touch and hold your finger on the first part of the block of quoted text
until a selection bar pops up. Touch "select all".  Start typing our hit
the back space key to get rid of everything selected. You're done.


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