KR> Micro over "Smooth Prime"?

[danrh at windstream.net]

You could use Super Fil which is another product made by PolyFiber.  Using a 
resin based filler, could, I emphasize, could, make it harder to sand than the 
Smooth Prime, thus, making it harder to get the smoothness you are after.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:56 AM, Pete Klapp via KRnet  wrote: 

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Netters 

I have been priming my plane with "Smooth Prime" and unfortunately I have found 
a few minor areas that will require a little touch-up micro. Too big to fix 
with 
future priming and blocking prior to final paint. Is there a problem to apply 
micro over "Smooth Prime"? Any special prep to insure bonding? 

Pete Klapp 
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KR> iFLY hardware vs iFly Apps - Advantages and disadvantages

[danrh at windstream.net]

When iFLy came out with the 720, I jumped on it right away because they boasted 
of their anti-glare screen.  When I received he unit, that is the first thing 
that I checked on.  Much to my surprise, it was, indeed, very anti-glare.  
However, I did have some problems with it and they agreed to swap it out for a 
new one.  When I started using the new one, and checking to see if the problems 
were solved, I kept thinking that this was not so anti-glare as I thought.  The 
other problems were resolved, but this kept bugging me.  So, I had some long 
conversations with the people at iFly.  I finally found out that they had 
abandoned the anti-glare screen because one of the owners preferred a screen 
that was brighter.  I gave them a couple pieces of my mind over that and don't 
think that I have ever gotten them back.  Who would do such a stupid thing?  

On Monday, August 1, 2016 10:56 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  wrote: 

=
I agree that like many other devices, the iFly 740 definitely needs an anti 
glare sheet on top.  I don't think I even tried to  use mine without an 
anti-glare cover.  

KR> instruments and KR parts for sale

[danrh at windstream.net]

Joe,


What is 005.jpg

On Friday, March 4, 2016 9:26 AM, n357cj via KRnet  
wrote: 

=
Hey Guys, 
I have been trying to get my act together to clean out some of my extras 
but 
I just don't seem to get organized. The first picture is a KR2s factory made 
turtle deck with some cutting done and some minor damage. I would have used it 
but it seemed to be to much work to modify to fit the current project (a make 
offer plus shipping kind of deal) 
The second is a number of instruments that I have collected and will not be 
using. I do not even have a list made up of what you see or any idea of prices. 
for the most part they do not include any sensors. Many are new in box items 
like the AK-350. A couple of the other gauges are yellow tagged. If you see 
something that your interested in send me a PRIVATE email at: n357cj at ptd.net 
 I also have a XM weather box and wiring along with a Anywhere map Septa 
that I can update to current charts (will sell seperate or together) and I have 
an old Lowerence 1000 that I used for the auto pilot up to last August. It is 
not updateable but it does work great and never misses a beat. I was really 
disappointed when they withdrew from aviation markets. XM still does have a few 
very desirable functions that you do not get from ADS-b and might be great for 
someone that travels  a lot. 
Please be patient as It may take a couple days for me to respond due to 
current work load. 
Thanks, 
Joe Horton, 
Coopersburg, Pa 

KR> Several Questions:

[danrh at windstream.net]

I have made many using 6061 T6 .065  I have them water jet cut and they come 
out perfect every time.  I may even have one laying around somewhere that you 
can use.

 Original message From: "T. W. Norman via KRnet" 

Lastly, anyone have suggestions on how to make the panel? I'm thinking 
fiberglass or aluminum. I am getting rid of the old panel in hopes I can 
simplify the layout so it's more user friendly. 

KR> why two gathering sites (one not working)

[danrh at windstream.net]

However you do it, the site should not be under one individual in the future.  
This is another good reason to have an "organization".

On Monday, September 14, 2015 1:11 PM, Dj Merrill via KRnet  wrote: 

=
On 9/14/2015 1:02 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote: 
> http://krgathering.com/   (Not Working)) 
> 
> http://bouyea.net/KRGathering   (Working) 
> 
> I wonder if the broken one could be deleted, or redirected to the working 
> one? 


Both of those sites work fine for me. 

-Dj 


-- 
Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87 
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ 
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/ 


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KR> Only 16 days until the 2015 KR GATHERING!

[danrh at windstream.net]

Yea, but a long way for him to go just to pitch a Corvair engine which he does 
not even make, except for a very few.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:27 PM, Dan Prichard via KRnet  wrote: 

=
His son will not be in port so he decided to cancel. Very disappointing. 

Dan Prichard 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Aug 18, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Dan Heath via KRnet  
> wrote: 
> 
> I do not see Dan Weseman of CorvairLand on the list.  Does this mean that he 
has pulled out? 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:11 AM, John Bouyea via KRnet 
 wrote: 
> 
> = 
> Can you give me a big ole' YeeHaaw!  Posting another Update. 
> 
> Dan Prichard, Pete Gauthier and I met last Saturday morning for a review 
> session. Along with everything we've posted previously, here's the latest; 
> 
> 
> 
> *The shirt order is going in soon so if you want apparel, please get your 
> order in soon at http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/web_pages/pre-reg-form2.html 
> 
> *The awards will be ready for pick-up next week. 
> 
> *Jeff Scott offered to run a session on weight & balance and EAA Chapter 105 
> has scales. If anyone wants to use them, please reply to me privately. 
> 
> *Mark Langford offered to do a session on composites. 
> 
> *Jeff Bertuleit from Props Inc will do a session on propellers and several 
> of the airplanes at the gathering use his props. 
> 
> *Kurk from Dynon will be at the entire event so you have a great opportunity 
> to get some time with him. 
> 
> *The "registration fee" is $82 and it includes your shirt, hat, the banquet 
> dinner and $25 towards defraying the cost of the event. 
> 
> *The Evergreen Air Museum offers a "15-or-more person" group discount. If 
> you come to McMinnville & miss the museum, you'll kick yourself after. The 
> whole place is nicely air conditioned, so especially if it gets hot one 
> afternoon, it is strongly recommended a group of us walks across the street 
> as a side attraction! 
> 
> *Aircraft Spruce, Wick Aircraft and Hegar Manufacturing have all made 
> contributions to the event. Please be sure to visit the tables where their 
> materials are on display! 
> 
> 
> 
> A few other notes; 
> 
> *If you haven't heard on the national news, there are a lot of wild fires 
> out west this summer. Be sure to check enroute visibility if you're flying 
> in. It hasn't been much of a problem at MMV or in Portland but it has been 
> hot & dry this summer with no major change forecast for Labor Day weekend. 
> 
> *Thank you to Steve Glover for forwarding the Gathering Fund  balance from 
> the Chino event. 
> 
> *The airport doesn't permit open flames so no campfires this year. We expect 
> to have plenty of coolers for root beer and other beverages for hanging out. 
> 
> 
> *A big Thank You for all the assistance we've received from everyone on the 
> ground at MMV for their cooperation and support for this event. 
> 
> *I just found out Collin Hales was camping at McMinnville last week on his 
> way to Alaska so the ground has already been blessed! 
> 
> 
> 
> Looking forward to seeing you all! 
> 
> 
> 
> John Bouyea 
> 
> N5391M/ KR2 
> 
> OR81/ Hillsboro, OR 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Only 16 days until the 2015 KR GATHERING!

[danrh at windstream.net]

I do not see Dan Weseman of CorvairLand on the list.  Does this mean that he 
has pulled out?

On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:11 AM, John Bouyea via KRnet  wrote: 

=
Can you give me a big ole' YeeHaaw!  Posting another Update. 

Dan Prichard, Pete Gauthier and I met last Saturday morning for a review 
session. Along with everything we've posted previously, here's the latest; 



*The shirt order is going in soon so if you want apparel, please get your 
order in soon at http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/web_pages/pre-reg-form2.html 

*The awards will be ready for pick-up next week. 

*Jeff Scott offered to run a session on weight & balance and EAA Chapter 105 
has scales. If anyone wants to use them, please reply to me privately. 

*Mark Langford offered to do a session on composites. 

*Jeff Bertuleit from Props Inc will do a session on propellers and several 
of the airplanes at the gathering use his props. 

*Kurk from Dynon will be at the entire event so you have a great opportunity 
to get some time with him. 

*The "registration fee" is $82 and it includes your shirt, hat, the banquet 
dinner and $25 towards defraying the cost of the event. 

*The Evergreen Air Museum offers a "15-or-more person" group discount. If 
you come to McMinnville & miss the museum, you'll kick yourself after. The 
whole place is nicely air conditioned, so especially if it gets hot one 
afternoon, it is strongly recommended a group of us walks across the street 
as a side attraction! 

*Aircraft Spruce, Wick Aircraft and Hegar Manufacturing have all made 
contributions to the event. Please be sure to visit the tables where their 
materials are on display! 



A few other notes; 

*If you haven't heard on the national news, there are a lot of wild fires 
out west this summer. Be sure to check enroute visibility if you're flying 
in. It hasn't been much of a problem at MMV or in Portland but it has been 
hot & dry this summer with no major change forecast for Labor Day weekend. 

*Thank you to Steve Glover for forwarding the Gathering Fund  balance from 
the Chino event. 

*The airport doesn't permit open flames so no campfires this year. We expect 
to have plenty of coolers for root beer and other beverages for hanging out. 


*A big Thank You for all the assistance we've received from everyone on the 
ground at MMV for their cooperation and support for this event. 

*I just found out Collin Hales was camping at McMinnville last week on his 
way to Alaska so the ground has already been blessed! 



Looking forward to seeing you all! 



John Bouyea 

N5391M/ KR2 

OR81/ Hillsboro, OR 



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KR> the NEXT KR Gathering, 2017

[danrh at windstream.net]

And you?
=
Hope someone form the right coast or near there will make a pitch. Ohio would 
be 
nice too. 

Craig 

KR> VW exhaust valves

[danrh at windstream.net]

Stainless valves are nice, but I will bet that the problem was not the valve.
__
Stainless steel exaust valves? 
I will look into getting some for my plane.  Is "seating" the stainless steel 
valves the same as other valves?

KR> Fwd: KR Gathering Shirt & Hat

[danrh at windstream.net]

Actually, I don't buy them because I need a pocket to put my pen and notepaper 
in, because I can't remember anything anymore and have to write it down.



On Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:24 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  wrote: 

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Dan, 

It's so all your OLD airplane friends have a place to put their reading 
glasses.  
For some strange reason, I stopped buying shirts without pockets some 15 years 
ago. :o) 

-Jeff Scott 
Lost Almost, NM 


> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM 
> From: "Dan Prichard via KRnet"  
> To: KRnet  
> Cc: "Dan Prichard"  
> Subject: KR> Fwd: KR Gathering Shirt & Hat 
> 
> > 
> > All, 
> >  
> > The shirt will be a tan color with a pocket.  To quote my daughter ?so your 
geeky airplane friends can have a place for their pocket protectors and slide 
rules?  Wonderful woman but takes after her mother.  The shirts will sell for 
$27.00 and the hats for $10.00.  Banquet will be $20.00 and registration is 
$25.00. 
> > $ 82.00 total.  Order as many as you like.  The cut off for apparel orders 
to be available at the gathering will be the 14th of August.  Orders taken 
after 
that will be shipped.  I will have a few extras at the gathering.  If you don?t 
plan to attend but want a shirt or hat just let me know before.  Email me at 
dprich01 at comcast.net. 
> >  
> > Dan Prichard 
> > 15037157178> >  

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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 188

[danrh at windstream.net]

Rodger,


It will be good to see you again.  I have a ride to the Gathering, but will 
need transportation to and from the hotel.  I am staying at the Vineyard.



On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:18 PM, Rodger Nicolls via KRnet  wrote: 

=
> 
> Subject: KR> Gathering Trans from PDX to McMinnville (ride share) 
> 
> I have a rental car on reserve and will be arriving PDX at 06:30 on Friday 
(9/4) and departing on Sunday (9/6) at 19:00. I'm willing to share/drive 
etc. I plan on camping at the airfield. I'm looking forward to my first 
Gathering. 
Rodger 
Anchorage, Alaska 
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KR> Update2: 2015 KR Gathering at McMinnville - 55 Days & Counting!

[danrh at windstream.net]

Are the images of the shirts available on KRGathering.COM, yet?  If not, please 
let us know and if I like it, I will place my order. 

KR> Gathering 2016

[danrh at windstream.net]

And, I should add to this, that I was one of those at MVN in 2013 who strongly 
supported having the Gathering at Chino.  I also supported having the Gathering 
at McMinnville.  I think it is great to move it around and see different parts 
of the country.  That is/was, what the KR family always did in the past..  That 
said, I still think that we have not found more perfect facilities than at MVN 
and should not rule it out, given that there is someone who wants to host it 
there.


I would like to see one at Jeff Scott's place one of these years.


The Gathering at Chino was fantastic and I am sure this one in 2015 will be 
just as good and am really looking forward to it.


Thanks to all those who host these events.

On Thursday, July 2, 2015 5:52 AM, Dan Heath via KRnet  wrote: 

=
I have always thought that we should have a different way to choose the next 
Gathering site.  It is always going to favor somewhere in the vicinity of 
the current site, because it is more convenient for those closest to the 
site to vote.  And, what do you suppose they vote for? 



People who fly their KR get 5 votes, or maybe more.  10 would not be 
unreasonable. 

Attendees get 3 votes. 

All netters not attending, get 1 vote. 



New England would be great, but where is that?  I am sure it is on the other 
side of the world from Oregon or the Pacific Northwest. 



Also, for those of you who want to submit your requests for a location, you 
need to be specific and be willing to HOST, and that is a lot of work.  You 
also must have your proposal presented at the Gathering.  If you cannot be 
there, you can have a representative do it for you. 



Larry, you are the one person who knows the most about how this is done. 
Did I leave anything out? 



See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on 
the pics 



2015 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR.  September 3 - 6 -- See U There. 



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC 





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KR> Building sequence

[danrh at windstream.net]

Yes, fuselage first.  This is because the entire KR is built upon itself.  Each 
step sort of forms the "JIG" for the next step.


If I were building again, what I would not do is build out the wing stubs, 
until I finished the fuselage, to eliminate having to lean over the wing stub 
for everything I was doing inside the fuselage.


Happy building and see you in McMinnville.



On Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:31 AM, R. Lee Jarvis via KRnet  wrote: 

=
It seems like most (all?) KR builders are beginning with the fuselage. Does the 
construction have to begin with the fuselage, or can you build wings & 
empennage 
first? Workshop space is limited, and it's easier to store flat pieces out of 
the way than it is to work around an assembled fuselage. 
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KR> Incredible Flying Skills

[danrh at windstream.net]

You want to hire the kid?  Good choice!

=
> 
> Paul said; This gives me some ideas for my first flight. : ) 
> 

KR> Pilots and Builders

[danrh at windstream.net]

Keep it within the design gross weight and / or fiddle with the engine 
placement.  Hard to do the first, much easier to do the second.  That is what I 
did, per recommendation from Jim Faughn, when I had the VW on the Black Bird.


On Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:23 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet  wrote: 

=
Ok, excellent suggestion on building the airplane to the forward end of the 
cg limit.  Just exactly how does one do that?  And still follow the plans? 

Sid Wood 
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 
Mechanicsville, MD, USA 
--- 
I put another couple of hours on N891JF (a fairly stock KR2) late this 
afternoon, and I was thinking that there is nothing special about flying 
this plane.  Yes, it will run circles around a 172, and it takes more 
runway, but it's just not difficult at all. It's justdifferent! 
What gets people is when they try to fly it with a CG toward the aft end 
or aft of the safe range, and then it's not just a handful, it's trying 
to kill you. 

The solution is pretty dang simple...build it with the CG near the FRONT 
of the range, because as passengers and baggage are added, the CG is 
going to move aft.  Jim Faughn built N891JF to be right on the front end 
of the CG range with him and full fuel, and I'm even lighter.  There's 
no hint of instability, obviously, and it's really not twitchy in smooth 
air (which is where I climb to for any cross-country).  It will gain or 
lose a couple of hundred feet in a minute if you're not paying 
attention, so you need to pay attention! 

One common characteristic with KRs is a lack of longitudinal (roll) 
stability.  They will typically drift off left or right and just keep on 
increasing the bank into a dive...so don't fall asleep at the stick. 
Other than these details, they are very similar to "normal" airplanes, 
but the V numbers are different, of course. 

And has been said many times, stick movement is pretty much limited to 
just "thinking" about it, while at cruise speed...slight pressure 
exerted on the stick, with no discernible movement.  About the only time 
real stick movement happens is on takeoff or landing, unless you like to 
do the occasional roll. 

Stalls are very gentle, and give PLENTY of warning.  N891JF rattles the 
elevator hinges long before you get to the stall, and it doesn't break, 
it just mushes down a little.  You'd have to be oblivious for it to 
sneak up on you and lose more than 20' of altitude.  I did several 
today, most a little less than 50 mph TAS with the belly board down. 
Turns do not significantly alter the stall characteristics, just 
increase the speed a bit. And it slips beautifully...just stomp the 
rudder pedal and correct flight path with ailerons, and it's a real hoot 
of an elevator ride. 

But a KR can lull you to sleep in calm air and practically flies itself 
with minimal input.  But even in calm air you can't spend a lot of time 
to fold a map with no hands on the stick, because moving arms and legs 
changes the weight distribution, and the plane will react accordingly. 
But that shouldn't be a surprise.  With a dual stick setup, I fly with 
my knees when doing such things as taking sunset photos.  With one stick 
that's a lot more difficult, bordering on yoga. 

As Troy Petteway once told me, "taildragger KR's are the easiest of the 
taildraggers to land", and I see no reason to argue with that.  It's not 
like flying an F-16, but it is a different mindset than a C-150.  My EAA 
flight advisor had me fly a Cub (for the first time) the morning of my 
first KR flight, but my time would have been better spent flying the KR 
earlier in the day in the calm air of the early morning. 

I guess my best advice would be to get a little (even ten minutes would 
help) stick time in a KR before flying yours for the first time, and 
keep in mind to make very subtle stick movements.  And go to altitude to 
ascertain stall speed, then approach a long runway at maybe ten percent 
higher than that and just wait for the speed to bleed off and let the 
plane gently settle onto the ground. 

If this plane were so difficult to fly, I wouldn't climb into it at 
every opportunity and just fly around the neighborhood for two hours 
like I did today.  Eight takeoffs and landings, some stall and cruise 
speed testing, a great sunset unfolding, and more dinosaurs liberated. 
See attached image... 

Mark Langford 
ML at N56ML.com 
http://www.n56ml.com 




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KR> KR1 LSA QUALIFICATION

[danrh at windstream.net]

Easy to meet that constraint, the stall speed is the one you need to be 
concerned about.  And it has to be "clean", no lift devices required.  You can 
have them, but they cannot be used to test the stall speed.

Gross weight will probably be the thing you most have to keep in check to be 
able to meet that requirement.

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:47 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet  wrote: 

=
My hangar partner converted his Pulsar XP for LSA operation.  Of course the 
Pulsar XP does meet all the LSA requirements except for the non-LSA cruise 
speed of 150 Kts. He tested the cruise speed for 120 Kts operation and noted 
the engine RPM.  He placarded that engine RPM on the instrument panel.  He 
then wrote the Washington FSDO that he was converting to LSA operation.  He 
called the FSDO and they said his letter was on file and not to expect a 
reply.  He made no modification to the aircraft other than the cruise RPM 
placard and a log book entry.  He has been operating his Pulsar XP as an LSA 
for four years now.  (And pays little attention to the LSA RPM placard.) 

Sid Wood 
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 
Mechanicsville, MD, USA 
 
HAS ANY BODY SUCCESSFULLY CONVERTED THEIR KR 1 TO AN LSA?  AND WHAT WERE 
THE REQUIREMENTS TO DO THIS. 

Marty Greg Martin 




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KR> SNF

[danrh at windstream.net]

Anybody going to SNF, who plans to stay at a hotel?  Or, who has gone before 
and can recommend a hotel? 

Dan Heath

KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

[danrh at windstream.net]

Yes, keep the heat in the pipe.  This is good for many reasons.  Get your pipes 
coated inside and out, or do it yourself.  I had Jet Hot do mine and I believe 
that Mark L. does his.

It appears keeping 
the heat in the exhaust flow is the key.

KR> Ellison TBI

[danrh at windstream.net]

This is a great start, if you really want to know how it works and some of the 
advantages of this kind of system over some of the others.  There is NO bull on 
this site.  If you have any questions about anything you read or see, I will be 
glad to assist, having used this Carbeuretor for over 25 years.


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:40 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  wrote: 

=

http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/ 

KR> Brake Bleeding

[danrh at windstream.net]

The reservoir is very small.  I installed mine on the inside of the firewall, 
but then, I did not have a header tank taking up that space.  The RV guys 
install it on the engine side.  I will be that it takes up less weight than the 
reservoir on each master cylinder where they are contained on each cylinder.

On Friday, January 23, 2015 1:37 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet  wrote: 

=
Having done this brake bleeding only three times now on my KR-2, I am 
definitely a believer in installing a remote and accessible reservoir for 
the master cylinders.  A plastic unit to visually check on preflight would 
be just the thing.  Where to install the reservoir may require some creative 
thinking.  A reservoir full of hydraulic oil is yet another added weight. 
Everything airplane is a trade off. 

Sid Wood 
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 
Mechanicsville, MD, USA 
--- 
I do mine from the bottom up using a squirt can. Just put towels near the 
top vent. Connect and squirt. 
 
I also use a pressure gun from the bottom, but I found a small bolt that 
fitted the fill hole in the master cylinder, I drill this through the centre 
of the bolt, pushed a clear plastic tube over the end of the bolt, then 
screwed in the top of master Cylinder, then if you over fill , the fluid 
will travel up the tube so you can see it, then just remove the gun from the 
bleeder and let it drain back down till the fluid is at the required level 
in the master cylinder. 

NO MESS to clean up. 

Phil. 



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KR> Forum flyers

[danrh at windstream.net]

Put a Dynon auto pilot on your existing Dynon D10A, D180, Skyview or other such 
product for $1500 and you will see how stable it is.This took all the work 
out of flying my KR in bumpy conditions.


On Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:45 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  wrote: 

=

The KR is not "stable enough" for IFR?  Only useful enough for "fun 
flying"?  Unsuitable for long-distance travelling and can't carry a heavy 
load?  What a bunch of hooey. 

What Dan said is certainly true . . . if you aren't comfortable on 
instruments you can't really count on getting where you're going - in any 
airplane.

Also, please note that vaccum systems are obsolete these days, certainly 
for Experimentals. 

Mike 
KSEE 


 
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KR> Conduit

[danrh at windstream.net]

I am not familiar with that.  Where do you get it and what is the Part # or 
actual name of it?

Thanks,

On Monday, December 29, 2014 6:18 AM, tinyauto--- via KRnet  wrote: 

=
the regular black flex conduit is light weight and comes in several different 
sizes.

KR> First time KR2 owner..

[danrh at windstream.net]

Try Joe Horvath at Revmaster.com

On Friday, December 12, 2014 10:49 AM, Bill Wood via KRnet  wrote: 

=
I have been on here watching all that is going on and I am quite impressed.. I 
am a low time pilot and new to the KR scene.  Just bought my first KR2, most of 
it in a box.. The aircraft was built and flown a few years ago. It has about 
350 
hours on the airframe. The engine is currently out and on my bench in pieces. 

I am quite proficient in all areas of building and repair and so on.. 

My first challenge so far (there is going to be more) and I am sure someone out 
there will be able to point me in the right direction.. 

I am looking for a parts break down for a VW 1835. 

Where is the best place to get parts for this engine. IE gasket kit, rings, 
bearings. 

Thanks 

BillW at guspro.com 

Bill Wood 
Technical Consultant/R&D 
Guspro (Ice King) 
15193524550x262 

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KR> Fw: Re: aileron controls

[danrh at windstream.net]

I think you should have the geometry so that it maintains the 20/30 ratio.  I 
think that is what it is, 20 down, 30 up?  Anyway, whatever it is, that is what 
makes it an "aileron" plane, vs a "rudder" plane.

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:46 PM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet  wrote: 

=
What I should have said is that liniar travel is easy - i.e. 20 deg up and 20 
deg down on the opposite side. I was actually thinking that the differential 
deflection had more to do with not having to use rudder for yaw 


I did not have full deflection and by the performance, I could not tell.  
However, I can imagine that under slow flight in windy conditions, it might 
become a problem. 

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:45 PM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet 
 wrote: 

= 
Morning Guys,How important is the differential aileron deflection in 
anyone’s opinion.  I am working through the final configuration of a push 
pull system and getting 20 deg down and 10 deg. Up on the opposite side is a 
bit 
problematic. (I think)Thanks,Joe Horton,N357CJSecond one under construction 
 





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The #1 Worst Carb Ever? 
Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat 
This!) 
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KR> aileron controls

[danrh at windstream.net]

I did not have full deflection and by the performance, I could not tell.  
However, I can imagine that under slow flight in windy conditions, it might 
become a problem.

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:45 PM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet  wrote: 

=
Morning Guys,How important is the differential aileron deflection in 
anyone’s opinion.  I am working through the final configuration of a push 
pull system and getting 20 deg down and 10 deg. Up on the opposite side is a 
bit 
problematic. (I think)Thanks,Joe Horton,N357CJSecond one under construction 
 
The #1 Worst Carb Ever? 
Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat 
This!) 
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5489d8963df3258963aebst01duc 
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KR> Carbs

[danrh at windstream.net]

It is my opinion that given similar HP and performance, the carb should work 
very well.

And, I don't think your results will vary.



Now for the opinion portion of the show...would it be reasonable to 
assume that a MS carb designed for a particular engine be usable on another 
engine of a different mfg with similar HP and performance? 

KR> How to add fluid to brakes / brake bleeding

[danrh at windstream.net]

Might work great for your set up, but I have fought this for years.  Sometimes 
it is more economical to admit defeat and just buy the tool.

As Larry always says, your results may vary, or something like that.

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:43 AM, Flesner via KRnet  wrote: 

=
At 05:02 AM 11/13/2014, you wrote: 
>Check out this tool. 
>Best money I ever spent, that I did not want to spend. 
>http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/search.aspx?keyword=225dx 
+ 

Very convenient but a pump type oil can with a spout and the correct 
diameter hose works great and will save considerable dollars. 

Larry Flesner 


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KR> Brake use of loctite Or teflon tape.

[danrh at windstream.net]

Are you asking about the 1/8 th NPT fittings?  If so, I would, and did, use 
teflon tape.

I have Matco and I do NOT use DOT.

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:13 AM, stefkr2--- via KRnet  wrote: 

=
Hi guys, 
To install the brakes we need to use the straight Or 90 degre fittings to the 
nylon tubes. 
Can one of you tell me can I use on the fitting to the cilinder teflon tape Or 
do we need loctite...and wat kind of loctite do I need. We have Matco brake 
cilinders. 
And the oil, can we use normaal car stuff dot4? 

Thanks Stef 

-- 
Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see   
http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 




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KR> spacer plate...

[danrh at windstream.net]

Then contact Saber Mfg [mailto:sabermfg at sabermfg.com] 

He will get you what you need.

On Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:20 AM, GaryH via KRnet  wrote: 

=




Gary 



Soli Deo Gloria 



-Original Message- 
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KRnet 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:54 AM 
To: KRnet 
Subject: Re: KR> spacer plate... 



At 09:58 PM 10/29/2014, you wrote: 

>Want to buy: 

>1 inch thick Al spacer or 1 3/8 crush plate for O-200. 

>Gary 

+++ 



Are we talking firewall here?  Need more info. 



Larry Flesner 





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KR> spacer plate...

[danrh at windstream.net]

Which do you want, a spacer or a crush plate for your prop.

On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:09 AM, Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via 
KRnet  wrote: 

=

-Original Message- 
From: GaryH via KRnet  
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Wed, Oct 29, 2014 9:59 pm 
Subject: KR> spacer plate... 


Want to buy: 
1 inch thick Al spacer or 1 3/8 crush plate for O-200.  Anyone have one and 
willing to part with? 

Regards, 

Gary 

KR> Jack Cooper

[danrh at windstream.net]

I have tried also with the same result.

On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:28 PM, Patrick Driscoll via KRnet  wrote: 

=
I have tried Jack's phone and his email with no response. Anyone have any 
information on him? 
Patrick Driscoll 
Saint Paul, MN 
patrick36 at usfamily.net 
www.pensbypat.com 
If you can read this, Thank a teacher 
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran 
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KR> KR-2 in "Aftermath"

[danrh at windstream.net]

I thought it was the Taylor Monoplane, but you would know better than me cause 
I was not arround the KR at that time.

On Friday, September 26, 2014 2:08 PM, Virgil N.Salisbury via KRnet  wrote: 

=

 The design of the KR was based on the Taylor Titch. A well respected 
 plans seller for years. RR could have accepted that the design 
criteria 
 was adequate and acceptable for the changes for the KR, Virg 


 On 9/26/2014 2:41 AM, Mike T via KRnet wrote: 
> I agree with DJ, and I think other kitplane makers do too.  Recently the 
> designer of the CX4 (an aluminum single-seat design about 10 years old), 
> discovered the cable attachment method on the rudder was causing fatigue 
> cracks in the rudder cables of his prototype.  So he redesigned the part 
> and emailed it as a "MANDATORY DESIGN CHANGE" in big letters to all 
> registered builders.  Larger kitplane makers like RV make similar 
> improvements in their plans all the time. 
> 
> According to some KR-Net posts, Neil Bingham's design review talking about 
> the unsafe aft CG limit appeared in Sport Aviation in 1986 and also in the 
> KR Newsletter.  Even if Rand-Robinson claimed they never heard of Sport 
> Aviation, they can hardly claim they didn't know about the Newsletter 
> because they occasionally made contributions to it. 
> 


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KR> THANKS STEVE and Gathering Funds

[danrh at windstream.net]

Everyone should know that there is a fund that is carried over from year to 
year and passed on to each host.  The purpose of that fund is to re-imburse the 
host for expenses occurred during, before, and after that are related to 
putting on the event.

Larry F. can discuss the details of this with the group and I hope he will, 
because everyone needs to understand where the funds come from and how they are 
replenished from year to year.

I am all for a fee, if this fund is not sufficient, but the Gathering has been 
going on for many years without having to impose a fee and if the host is 
getting hit with any expenses, that has been kept a secret from me.

I now turn the floor over to Larry.

PS: Thanks Steve.  I hope you were not out any cash, but I know that you 
expended a lot of energy and time, and it showed.  

Dan Heath

KR> Radio call type designator

[danrh at windstream.net]

So why do we say "Experimental"?  I had understood that they wanted that for 
all experimentals.  I know the RVs at my airport call "Experimental".

Dan

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:14 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  wrote: 

=
You'll hear the RV guys call in as "RV 123 Romeo Victor", but that's because 
the 
RVs have become so ubiquitous that the controllers all know the type of 
aircraft, so that tells them a lot about speed and performance to help fit them 
into traffic flow.  Unfortunately, KRs are so rare that most controllers have 
no 
idea what they are, so calling in as "KR 1213 Whiskey" doesn't help them.  I 
always use "Experimental 1213 Whiskey" for the KR.  They usually refer to me as 
either a GlassAir or an RV.  When they ask aircraft type, most aren't familiar 
with the KRs. 

For my home built SuperCub, I always use "SuperCub 143 Whiskey" as that tells 
the controllers everything they need to know about my performance in traffic; 
s...l...o...w.  I tried using "Experimental SuperCub", but the controllers 
invariably shortened it to "SuperCub".  Being experimental doesn't really 
pertain to the performance, so doesn't tell ATC anything they care to know. 

-Jeff Scott 
Los Alamos,NM 


> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 at 7:50 AM 
> From: "Rayner, Todd M. via KRnet"  
> 
> Maybe a silly question but what do you use as a type designator when calling 
ATC in your KR2?  Experimental? KR? 
> 
> Todd 

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KR> Weight & Balance

[danrh at windstream.net]

I also would like to know what those FAA guidelines are.  You set the gross 
weight based on the weight at which you determine, thru testing, it is safe to 
fly.  At least, that is the way I always understood it to be for an exprimental.


On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:22 AM, ppaulvsk at aol.com via KRnet  wrote: 

=
Sid, You said "Gross weight per the FAA guidelines is 1146 pounds.  What are 
the 
FAA guideline? 

Paul Visk 
Belleville Il 
16184064705 

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! 

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Date: Thu, Jun 12, 2014 10:31 am 
Subject: KR> Weight & Balance 
To:  

Did weight and balance on 6/11/14 assisted by Bernie Wunder and my wife 
Shirley.  Empty weight is 758 pounds and CG is 8.41 inches.  With me on 
board and full fuel, weight is 1066 pounds and CG is 13.41 inches; at that 
loading, weight on the nose wheel is 90.6 pounds.  Comparing that to the 63 
pounds reported by Mark Jones, I consider my KR-2 to be satisfactory to fly. 
I can still dump it on the tail skid trying to load or unload two adults - 
have already done that three times.   If the main wheels were two or three 
inches further aft, probably would not have that issue; my design engineer 
is on furlough.  Gross weight per the FAA guidelines is 1146 pounds.  These 
numbers are basically the same as before the engine move, but now have 
removed the 30 pounds ballast from the nose. 

Did my biennial in a Cessna 150 on 6/11/14.  Need to get the transponder 
calibration done.  (Piedmont Aviation, $125 at K2W6)  Then ready to fly - 
again. 

Sid Wood 
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 
Mechanicsville, MD, USA 
smwood at md.metrocast.net 




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KR> web sites

[danrh at windstream.net]

I do not recommend WordPress unless you want to spend some time learning how to 
use it.  It also requires much more time to organize your photos than you may 
want to spend.  I started using it for PantherBuilder.org, but now have 
reverted back to the KRBuilder format using HTML pages built with IrfanView, as 
I can put out an entire days fun of Airplane Building, in about 30 minutes.  I 
like the WordPress part for what it does and the way it makes the site look, 
but to get information out quickly, ain't gonna happen until you get good at 
it.  You will also still have to get a host and pay a fee for that.  I pay an 
annual fee for KRBuilder.org and another one for PantherBuilder.org, and 
another hosting fee for the place to put it.  I use StartLogic and it costs me 
about $250 a year.

On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:38 AM, cruzj12 at frontiernet.net wrote: 

=
 Can anyone suggest one or more web sites, without going in to great 
detail, where pictures can be posted. 

Wordpress.com   Larry you can blog there and post photos. 
Joe Cruz 
On Monday, April 21, 2014 4:56 AM, Dan Heath  wrote: 

https://picasaweb.google.com/ 
  



I understand from a builder that all you have to do is set up an account. 
If you want an example of one, I will be glad to send you a link. 





See N64KR at   http://krbuilder.org/- Then click on 
the pics 



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC 





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flesner at frontier.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:48 PM 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Subject: KR> web sites 







Netters, 



Can anyone suggest one or more web sites, without going in to great detail, 
where pictures can be posted.  I would like to upload a considerable number, 
(50+)  photos like my tail light which we recently discussed.  I have a web 
site but it is outdated and I have no idea of the password or how to get in 
to the site and make changes.  Mark Langford set it up for me years ago.  At 
this point it is nothing more than a stone tablet,  you can read it but 
you're not going to alter it in any way. :-) 



Anyway, some site where computer dummies can just post photos and maybe a 
tag to go on them. 



Thanks 



Larry Flesner 





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KR> Posa carburetor leak

[danrh at windstream.net]

That's because that is what a POSA does, LEAK.
On Monday, April 21, 2014 8:18 AM, cruzj12 at frontiernet.net wrote: 

=
My VW runs good but I have a gas leak dripping when I open the fuel valve.So I 
shut it off after a few seconds to start it then back on after she fires up. Is 
there an bad "O" ring I missed or just another process of adustment on the 
needle to stop the leak? 
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KR> web sites

[danrh at windstream.net]

This is why I went to KRBuilder.org way back when I started on the Black Bird.  
I found quickly that you usually get what you pay for.  However, IrfanView 
gives you muchy more than you pay for as it is a great tool and is free and has 
been around for many years.  I can give you a template that you can use on any 
website with IrfanView and all you will have to do is fill in the blanks ( 
narrative (optional)).

On Monday, April 21, 2014 8:38 AM, Mark Langford  wrote: 

=
These free websites are fine to throw a few pictures out on to show your 
stuff, but will come to an end someday, and it may be quite unexpectedly 
(it's happened before).  If we want a "permanent" place to post photos with 
descriptions that you can count on for years down the road, making your own 
website is the way to go.  If you want to move them later, that's easy using 
ftp.  You can even get your own domain name and point to it, wherever it is. 
Most broadband user accounts come with some amount of disk space included in 
the price, where you can stand up your own website of reasonable size, and 
maintain it. Almost certainly, they also have instructions (if not free 
basic  HTML authoring software) on their website to help you be successful. 
That's why they're there! 

HTML is very simple stuff, but if you want to avoid the hour that it takes 
to learn it,  you can type it up in Word and save it as HTML, then FTP it 
(easier than it sounds) to your little space on the server, and you're done 
(although editing Word HTML is a messit's best to update the file on 
your PC and reupload it every time).  The Word method is certainly not 
recommend though. 

Below is the first page or so of my "stub wing" website at 
http://www.n56ml.com/swings.html .  It may look complicated, but there are 
only about five "constructions" that you need to know.  You can probably 
look at what's below and the get the hang of it.  You can copy one of my 
websites ("copy source"), edit it and put your stuff into it while tweaking 
the HREFs correspondingly, and have your own website in pretty short order. 
See below.  
 
 
 
Wing Construction 
 
Stub Wing Construction  
 

revised Aug 13, 1998 
 
 

 
 
I'm using the "new airfoil", the AS5046, on my airplane.  If you don't know 
the story behind this family of low-drag airfoils developed especially for 
the KR2S, you really should read about the cooperative effort that created 
it at http://www.krnet.org/as504x/";>http://www.krnet.org/as504x/";.  You 
can also find free downloadable full-size template drawings for them there, 
as well. 
 

 Stub Wing Skins 
 

 
 

I cut my airfoil templates out all in one piece, leaving humps over the 
spars in order to ensure that the airfoil template/rib remained accurate.  
 

 
 

After triangular gussets were glued to the template/spar junction, the humps 
were sanded away, leaving an accurate airfoil template. 
 
etc. 
--- 

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL 
ML at N56ML.com 
www.N56ML.com  


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KR> web sites

[danrh at windstream.net]

On Monday, April 21, 2014 8:38 AM, Mark Langford  wrote: 

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These free websites are fine to throw a few pictures out on to show your 
stuff, but will come to an end someday, and it may be quite unexpectedly 
(it's happened before).  If we want a "permanent" place to post photos with 
descriptions that you can count on for years down the road, making your own 
website is the way to go.  If you want to move them later, that's easy using 
ftp.  You can even get your own domain name and point to it, wherever it is. 
Most broadband user accounts come with some amount of disk space included in 
the price, where you can stand up your own website of reasonable size, and 
maintain it. Almost certainly, they also have instructions (if not free 
basic  HTML authoring software) on their website to help you be successful. 
That's why they're there! 

HTML is very simple stuff, but if you want to avoid the hour that it takes 
to learn it,  you can type it up in Word and save it as HTML, then FTP it 
(easier than it sounds) to your little space on the server, and you're done 
(although editing Word HTML is a messit's best to update the file on 
your PC and reupload it every time).  The Word method is certainly not 
recommend though. 

Below is the first page or so of my "stub wing" website at 
http://www.n56ml.com/swings.html .  It may look complicated, but there are 
only about five "constructions" that you need to know.  You can probably 
look at what's below and the get the hang of it.  You can copy one of my 
websites ("copy source"), edit it and put your stuff into it while tweaking 
the HREFs correspondingly, and have your own website in pretty short order. 
See below.  
 
 
 
Wing Construction 
 
Stub Wing Construction  
 

revised Aug 13, 1998 
 
 

 
 
I'm using the "new airfoil", the AS5046, on my airplane.  If you don't know 
the story behind this family of low-drag airfoils developed especially for 
the KR2S, you really should read about the cooperative effort that created 
it at http://www.krnet.org/as504x/";>http://www.krnet.org/as504x/";.  You 
can also find free downloadable full-size template drawings for them there, 
as well. 
 

 Stub Wing Skins 
 

 
 

I cut my airfoil templates out all in one piece, leaving humps over the 
spars in order to ensure that the airfoil template/rib remained accurate.  
 

 
 

After triangular gussets were glued to the template/spar junction, the humps 
were sanded away, leaving an accurate airfoil template. 
 
etc. 
--- 

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL 
ML at N56ML.com 
www.N56ML.com  


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KR> Tail wheel assy.

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http://krbuilder.org/MakingTailWheelSpring/index.html

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 7:52 AM, Doran Jaffas  wrote: 

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Wondering if anybody could send me some pictures of their tail wheel 
assembly? 
   I would like to change mine over to a locking type. 
Thx 
 Doran 
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KR> SkyView Panel installation Completed

[danrh at windstream.net]

Thanks.  Only problem with that is now I will have to pay more taxes.

Will you be at the Gathering this year?  I hope so.

On Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:35 AM, tommy waymack  
wrote: 

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Dan.Good job on the avionics retrofit.You just doubled the value of the 
aircraft.Tommy W. 

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Dan Heath  wrote: 

> This shows all the parts installed in the Black Bird and documents what all 
> the parts are.  When you get to the pictures of the SkyView pages, you may 
> be surprised to know that the flash on the camera was going off on these 
> and 
> it did nothing to affect the display.  I am thinking that tells me 
> something 
> about how good it will be in bright sunlight.  Which is another feature I 
> had hoped to gain from all this work. 
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> http://krbuilder.org/SkyViewPanel/index.html 
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> See N64KR at   
http://KRBuilder.org- Then click on 
> the pics 
> 
> See you Oct. 4 and 5, 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC 
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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[danrh at windstream.net]

While I am a fan of AS and Wicks.  I think they both do a great job.  However, 
when buying anything "tailwheel" why would you not get it from the people that 
make the tailwheel?  Aviation Products is a great company and they make a great 
product.

Maybe they even make one that is pneumatic?  But for the money, I can live with 
my hard wheel.

Dan

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 Hopefully I didn't waste my 
time with that effort... 

KR> broken fuel line and lessons learned

[danrh at windstream.net]

So, what is the lesson?  Don't have a broken fuel line?

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:28 PM, brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com wrote: 

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KR> Pro Seal

[danrh at windstream.net]

If you need to use ProSeal, check out what the RV guys get from Vans.  They all 
use it and it costs much less than the ProSeal brand.  I used it on my aluminum 
wing tanks and have no leaks.

KR> Rudder pedals

[danrh at windstream.net]

Larry F. has a good method for hanging them and I am sure he will advise you on 
that.  For the tension, connect the system in a closed loop by connecting the 
outside pedal on both sides via a pulley attached to the firewall.  Use a 
turnbuckle to be able to adjust the tension.


On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:53 AM, jon kimmel  wrote: 

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I was working on rudder pedals and have come across a couple of things. 
The first is that I wanted to hang the pedals because the floor of the 
fuselage is uneven.  Has anyone hung pedals that have brake cylinders 
attached?  I think I have come up with a way that will work well and will 
send pictures when they are done but I want to other solutions to the same 
problem.  The other is cable tension..  it doesn't look like there is any 
cable tension.  This is less of an issue for hanging pedals, but I can see 
where this might be an issue for floor mounted pedals.  Has anybody had a 
problem with lack of tension in rudder pedals like the pedals falling 
forward in flight? 

https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ 
https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale 
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KR> Engine oil overheating

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Not in a VW and not in a Corvair.  Do not use Aviation Oil.

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:27 AM, Randall Smith  wrote: 

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The do not recommend aviation oil in a vw  oil journals are to small ask Steve 
Bennett McConnell-Wood  wrote: 

KR> Gathering Date and Location?

[danrh at windstream.net]

October 4,5,6 in Mt. Vernon.  Go to http://krgathering.org/ 
for all the details.

Hope to see you there.


On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:14 AM, Rich Angel  
wrote: 

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Hi folks, I have missed a bunch of posts since the transition.  Can anyone 
tell me if there has been a Date and Location set up for the Gathering this 
year? It will be my first and I'm hoping to come and see several flying 
examples 
and learn some stuff.Rich AngelCincinnati, OhioPlans in the Tube on my Desk... 
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