KR> Engine mount.

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I didn't have to bend my mount at all using my specs, 28" top spread, 26" 
bottom spread and 14-1/2" top to bottom spread.
I'll send you a picture of it.


 Mike Sylvester  wrote: 
> 
> For those of you that have built an o-200 mount, How much do you have to bend 
> or bow the crossover tube to get around the alt. ? I might have to run the 
> factory alt. since I have one and $500 is money that could be put on a radio 
> or something else that I don't have at the moment. I have been off all week 
> and have been kickin butt on the KR this week. I built the mount today and 
> just need the crossover info before welding her up. Thanks. 
> 
> Mike Sylvester 
> kr2s builder 
> Birmingham,AL.
> 
> Cell no.205-966-3854
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KR> retract removal

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Why yes I have and I have them here on my floor where you can put them on a 
scale and weigh them, the springbar alone is very heavy. I did weigh them a 
while back just to compare and it was sizeable.



 Phillip Hill  wrote: 
> Really? Has anyone weighed a set of each and compared?  I'll bet it's not a
> huge difference.  I could be wrong, I've not weighed them, I don't know.
> Maybe someone who has done it can "weigh in" on the matter...
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > (QUOTE)Why remove them?(/QUOTE) Because they are very heavy.
> >
> >  Lee Van Dyke  wrote:
> > > Why remove them?
> > >
> > > Lee Van Dyke
> > >
> > > On Nov 28, 2012, at 10:04 AM, "Clayton"  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been searching the net, maybe I missed something.
> > > >
> > > > What is the least invasive way to remove the spring on the retract
> > gear set
> > > > up?
> > > >
> > > > I am switching out to the Deihl conventional gear, but don't want to
> > tear
> > > > out the entire wing stub.
> > > >
> > > > Is it best to cut the bar out in pieces or remove the bottom of the
> > few ribs
> > > > on the stub?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Clay
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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KR> retract removal

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

(QUOTE)Why remove them?(/QUOTE) Because they are very heavy.

 Lee Van Dyke  wrote: 
> Why remove them?
> 
> Lee Van Dyke
> 
> On Nov 28, 2012, at 10:04 AM, "Clayton"  wrote:
> 
> > I have been searching the net, maybe I missed something.
> > 
> > What is the least invasive way to remove the spring on the retract gear set
> > up?
> > 
> > I am switching out to the Deihl conventional gear, but don't want to tear
> > out the entire wing stub.
> > 
> > Is it best to cut the bar out in pieces or remove the bottom of the few ribs
> > on the stub?
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Clay 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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KR> Backup instruments

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

http://www.x-avionics.com/xavion/

KR> Backup instruments link

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

http://www.x-avionics.com

KR> Backup instruments link

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xavion/id574203838?mt=8

KR> Backup instruments link

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/x-vision/id578103061?mt=8

KR> Back instruments??? links to follow

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

OK this just got REAL!

X-Vision and Xavion are at the App-Store now!

X-Vision is just $49.99, and gives a GPS/gyro-based backup of every instrument 
in the standard-six panel in a REAL airplane!
As well, it gives you a perfectly-funtional synthetic vision system.
SO, if you want a simple app for your iPad or iPHONE (!!!) that shows a backup 
for every one of your primary-six instruments in the panel in a real airplane, 
I think this is the app to get.
I priced it to be easy, and if your instruments poop out in flight (imagine it 
happening in night or IFR!) you got a nice big backup on your iPad, or even a 
teeny one on your PHONE!

The really impressive App, though, at $99, is Xavion.

Xavion has everything X-Vsion does, plug an incredible new idea: 3-D guidance 
to the best runway to land on in the event of engine failure!
Xavion is always running flight simulations of a power-off glide to every 
runway in gliding range, and scoring each outcome based on it's likelihood of 
success.
Then, Xavion shows you the path that had the HIGHEST score as a series of hoops 
in 3-D on the synthetic vision display.
If the engine ever fails (or you just want to get down to the biggest runway in 
gliding range), just hit the panic button in Xavion and aim your airplane 
through the hoops! They will lead to the best runway within gliding range that 
Xavion thinks you can reach, at a constant descent angle equal to a nominal 
power-off glide angle for your airplane at power-off, half-flaps. (We use half 
flaps so you can retract the flaps to stretch your glide if needed due to winds 
or thermals. As well, you can lower your flaps the rest of the way if you have 
a tailwind. Coming down at 50% flaps gives the most margin for error, since you 
can raise or lower them from there to stay on the planned glide path as winds 
or other conditions change).

As well, Xavion watches your every take-off, and memorizes the distance you 
typically take to get airborne.
Then, whenever you line up on a runway, Xavion looks at the runway distance in 
front of you (from it's huge airport database) and tells you what percentage of 
the runway you are likely to use!

And Xavion does currency, trip planning, and weight and balance.

So, Xavion is trying to be an A-I copilot that lives on your iPad, helping you 
out in every way that it can. As well, Xavion can run on an iPhone 4 or 5, so 
in a pinch you can even run it on your phone if you are already using your iPad 
for foreflight and want to keep that app running all during the flight.

So, this is a fascinating moment in time: We are starting to see portable 
avionics that run on our iPads, and use at lest a primitive A-I to try to help 
you out.. and this is only the beginning!

austin

KR> Fwd: [xplane-news] OK this just got REAL!

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

This may be of interest to some of you, it's for "REAL" airplanes and is not a 
toy.

KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

(quote) The Thurston County Reusable Materials Exchange (/quote)
Sounds like what we used to call a "junk yard", oh how times have changed.

Well anyway, my post about that engine mount was a mistake on my part, I 
intended for it to go only to Jeff Scott who sent me the plan sheet files. Then 
I saw it pop up on the KRnet and realized what I had done but it was too late 
to do anything about it.

No, I'm not an expert by any means but I have built a couple of KR mounts. I 
don't have a welder so I farm that out to a local certified welder that does 
beautiful work at $45 an hour. 
So by the time you buy the materials/shipping and pay for the welding your 
talking in the neighborhood of $300 plus or so.

I only work on things when I feel like it and that's why it takes me so long, 
but when I do feel like it, I do a really good job as my wife has found out 
many times.

I can take pictures (I like doing that) of the building jig and post them on 
Photobucket for everyone to see if anyone would like but I don't intend to 
build anymore mounts.

You see, It broke my heart when I crashed O"Blue but I new crying wouldn't do 
any good (but I did). So it helps my emotions to repair and rebuild it, I'm 
just not in a hurry.

I have been a pilot and flown from 1982 to the present with a few hundred hours 
so I don't have "Buck fever" anymore and really I just enjoy building and 
rebuilding. So If I live long enough, I intend to remake O'Blue. I have all of 
the wood structure built and ready to remount the Cont. O-200-A engine. The 
major difference will be the new AS5046 airfoil. 
I think I will be reusing most of the original parts unless I update to more 
modern instruments and such like a glass cockpit.

Good luck with your projects.
Dan.  






 Craig Williams  wrote: 
> Hey Dan

Now that you're an expert mount maker, any interest in doing another?  I need 
one for my 2S and have been waiting to see if someone parts out a project first 
but since that has not happened I will need to buy one soon.

Craig




 From: "mfreem...@indy.rr.com" 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Engine mount

Hi Jeff;

I thought I would let you know that I got my new Cont. O-200-A engine mount 
finished today. I know, these things take time don't they. 
Anyway I'm now going to prep it for painting so I can get the engine mounted 
soon.
By the way, I mounted it to the engine for a test fit and it did great, it 
clears the alternator with room to spare using my 28" top and 26" bottom 
dimensions with 14-1/2" seperation top to bottom.
It matches up to the firewall just great.

Now the building fixture that I built will accomodate any of three engine 
mounts for the KR-2/KR-2S depending on how one prefers to mount it to the 
firewall and can easily be adapted to a VW if needed.

Well, have a great day and thanks for helping with the mount plans. Dan.


 Jeff Scott  wrote: 
> FWIW, my KR was started before there were any -2S plans, so my firewall is 
> the smaller KR-2 firewall and the drawing you have is the mount I am using. 
> (My KR started out as a stock KR-2 with an extra 14" bay in the fuselage.) My 
> W&B came out about as perfect as one could want with the mount as is using 
> the C series mount bushings and adapters. However, I did calculate mounting 
> it with the longer O-200 mount bushings and my plane would have been just 
> fine in either case. I only used the C series bushings and adapters so I 
> could avoid extending all my wiring, engine control cables, and cowling. 
> 
>  This really depends on what your plane weighs and how it's distributed. But 
>if you plan to use the standard O-200 mount bushings, I would probably shorten 
>the mount about an inch. I expect this mount is probably a bit longer than the 
>one that was on your plane before.
> 
>  -Jeff Scott
>  Los Alamos, NM
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> Sent: 06/22/12 04:55 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Engine mount
> 
>  I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but looking at the plan sheet for 
>the KR-2S engine mount and the Cont. O-200 engine that Jeff sent me, I noticed 
>that the spacing from the firewall to the O-200 engine mount casting (11-1/2") 
>is just that, it does not show any isolator bushings which in the case of the 
>O-200 would add another inch to the dimensions and make it (12-1/2") from the 
>firewall to the casting and I kind of feel that might be just a little too far 
>forward for the KR-2, so I made two sets of spacers for my jig so it can be 
>made either way, 10-1/2" or 11-1/2". I also made the top horizontal mount 
>spacing 28" for the KR-2 and 30" for the 

KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi Jeff;

I thought I would let you know that I got my new Cont. O-200-A engine mount 
finished today. I know, these things take time don't they. 
Anyway I'm now going to prep it for painting so I can get the engine mounted 
soon.
By the way, I mounted it to the engine for a test fit and it did great, it 
clears the alternator with room to spare using my 28" top and 26" bottom 
dimensions with 14-1/2" seperation top to bottom.
It matches up to the firewall just great.

Now the building fixture that I built will accomodate any of three engine 
mounts for the KR-2/KR-2S depending on how one prefers to mount it to the 
firewall and can easily be adapted to a VW if needed.

Well, have a great day and thanks for helping with the mount plans. Dan.


 Jeff Scott  wrote: 
> FWIW, my KR was started before there were any -2S plans, so my firewall is 
> the smaller KR-2 firewall and the drawing you have is the mount I am using. 
> (My KR started out as a stock KR-2 with an extra 14" bay in the fuselage.) My 
> W&B came out about as perfect as one could want with the mount as is using 
> the C series mount bushings and adapters. However, I did calculate mounting 
> it with the longer O-200 mount bushings and my plane would have been just 
> fine in either case. I only used the C series bushings and adapters so I 
> could avoid extending all my wiring, engine control cables, and cowling. 
> 
>  This really depends on what your plane weighs and how it's distributed. But 
> if you plan to use the standard O-200 mount bushings, I would probably 
> shorten the mount about an inch. I expect this mount is probably a bit longer 
> than the one that was on your plane before.
> 
>  -Jeff Scott
>  Los Alamos, NM
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> Sent: 06/22/12 04:55 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Engine mount
> 
>  I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but looking at the plan sheet for 
> the KR-2S engine mount and the Cont. O-200 engine that Jeff sent me, I 
> noticed that the spacing from the firewall to the O-200 engine mount casting 
> (11-1/2") is just that, it does not show any isolator bushings which in the 
> case of the O-200 would add another inch to the dimensions and make it 
> (12-1/2") from the firewall to the casting and I kind of feel that might be 
> just a little too far forward for the KR-2, so I made two sets of spacers for 
> my jig so it can be made either way, 10-1/2" or 11-1/2". I also made the top 
> horizontal mount spacing 28" for the KR-2 and 30" for the KR-2S. The older 
> KR-2 firewall was narrower than the new KR-2S by 1-3/4" according to both of 
> my plan sets. But, does anyone have real time experiance with the KR-2 and 
> the Cont. O-200 engine mounted farther forward than 10-1/2" from the firewall 
> to the standard O-200 isolator mount bushings?
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KR> Fuel sight gauge

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Looks like for $5.00 you can just buy the extra floats and put one in your tube 
maybe.


 Doug Steen  wrote: 
> http://atkinsonfuelgauges.com/
> The Long EZ folks have used this with great success for 25 years
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KR> fuel tank sight gauge tubing?

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

You know those little balls in the cheap little anti-freeze and battery testers.


 Mark Langford  wrote: 
> KRnetHeads,
> 
> It's been kind of quiet today, so let me throw this one out there.  When I 
> bought N891JF, the sight tube was discolored due to age to the point that I 
> could barely see through it.  I updated it with new tubing from McMaster 
> Carr, Tygon F-4040-A, which is what was used originally.  The problem is this 
> tubing is extremely yellow, and it wipes out the blue dye in the 100LL fuel 
> to the point that it's like water.  You can only see the dividing line 
> (miniscus) of the fuel level, and that takes some searching most of the time. 
>  The easy solution would be to put a little ball of some sort in the tubing, 
> and it would have to be 3/16" or smaller to freely float to the surface.  
> Anybody have an idea on a source for something that would work for that job?  
> Another option (but not as attractive as the floating ball) would be a clear 
> tubing that's proven to work with fuel.  Any ideas?
> 
> Having seen three fuel level sensors fail on N56ML, I'm already a big fan of 
> the sight tube thing, although it does mean "fuel in the cockpit".
> 
> Before I hit the "send" button, it occurred to me...a cheapo electrolyte 
> hydrometer would probably offer some balls that would work, but that remains 
> to be seen (yes I would look up the density before I wasted the $3).  Any 
> other options?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com 
> 
> 
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KR> Steve Glover's Plane Rebuild

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I know how you feel.


 Marc Baca  wrote: 
> Hello All;
> 
> In case any of you were wondering how the rebuild of N6155X  is coming along, 
> ... here is a slideshow.  We trucked it back to Chino, took the wings off, 
> and 
> began tearing away the fiberglass and broken wood and fiberglass.   Steve is 
> currently taking it down to the wood.  It should be ready to begin building 
> back 
> up in the next week or so.
> 
> https://vimeo.com/51376016
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Marc Baca
> Chino, CA 
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KR> KR2

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

The reason there is not a good KR or KR2S for Microsoft Flight Simulator is 
because of the way the program itself works.
In Microsoft, the programmer tells the aircraft how it should fly, but of 
course the programmer does not really know how it will really fly, only how he 
wants it to fly and therefore it is not an accurate model of the real thing.

With X-Plane it's different. It works on a fluid dynamics program that looks at 
all of the flight perimeters. The flight surface area, weight & balance, 
airspeed, air temperature and all of that "Smart Stuff" and then responds by 
showing you how the aircraft "Will" fly, and it is very accurate nowadays.

Have a look at the latest version http://www.x-plane.com/desktop/landing/

Now I have had free models of both the KR2 and the KR2S for X-Plane version 9 
in several liveries and configurations for a few years now and many of the KR 
guys have them , so you can ask them what they think of them.
Mark Jones is one of them but there are many others.

I have a couple of videos on YouYube of it here http://youtu.be/HI7yQro7kVo and 
here  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEwI7XET4Ss&feature=share&list=ULuEwI7XET4Ss
It's a close as you can get untill you fly your own.

Dan.

 us2pl...@juno.com wrote: 
> Just wondering if anyone (Computer Programer) has ever designed a KR2
> airplane program that will work on the Microsoft Flight Simulators?
> 
> Woman is 53 But Looks 25
> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/507a0db06aa43db037d7st03duc
> 
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KR> KRNetiquette?

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Post a link.


 Rudi Venter  wrote: 
> Hi Everyone!
> 
> Just a quick question
> 
> I know we are not supposed to send attachments with mails destined for 
> KRNet and I can understand why. What about small, imbedded images in 
> messages, lets say I write a trip report and I have a photo or two (not 
> lots!), would it be ok to insert the images or better to just post a 
> link? The images won't be attachments but part of the message inside the 
> text.
> 
> Thanks!
> Fly safe,
> Rudi
> Email: r...@rudix.servepics.com
> 
> 
> -
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> 
> 
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KR> KRGATHERING ORG

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I just got on to it.


 Patrick Driscoll  wrote: 
> I just tried to get on the gathering website and got a message that the site 
> could not be found. I even tried thru KR net link and got the same message.
> Patrick Driscoll
> Saint Paul, MN
> patric...@usfamily.net
> www.pensbypat.com
> If you can read this, Thank a teacher
> If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran 
> 
> 
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KR> Unpainted iron on fabric

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This will work.
http://www.betteraircraftfabric.com/



 tinya...@aol.com wrote: 
> There was a guy looking for the USA distributor website for the iron on  
> fabric that don't require paint.  I couldn't find it to start with, but  
> found 
> it in the online "Experimenter" magazine article.  Here is the web  site:
>  
> _http://www.betteraircraftfabric.com/_ 
> (http://www.betteraircraftfabric.com/) 
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KR> Driving is the pitts - KR Gathering was great

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I knew Dan Heath had misspelled that (maybe on purpose) but it was a quote so I 
didn't change it. Besides you probably had the shortest driving time of all.


 Eric James Pitts  wrote: 
> "Driving is the pitts", Thou shall not use my name in vain!!
> 
> 
> Eric Pitts
> Terre Haute, Ind.
> 
> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
> safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in 
> sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out 
> and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
>  
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KR> Driving is the pitts - KR Gathering was great

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"Driving is the pitts", yes it is.
When I drive to the Gathering it takes about 3-1/2 hours of Interstate driving 
and seems like it will never end, "ARE WE THERE YET?" but when I flew down it 
only took 1-1/4 hours and was over all to soon. Keep building guys.

 Dan Heath  wrote: 
> KR Gathering pics and Slide Show link are at:
> http://krbuilder.org/KRGathering2012/index.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Drove the last 11 hour leg of the trip to and from the Gathering yesterday.
> It rained from just outside Atlanta to about 25 miles from my house and by
> then it was dark.  I was fearful of my life, but then, totally convinced
> that I made the right choice to leave the Black Bird where she was safe.
> 
>  
> 
> Even with the continual agonizing over having to leave my Bird at home, it
> was a great Gathering.  Russ's Baby was certainly a hit and a very
> appropriate version of the KR2 for the 40th anniversary.  He took Best
> Paint, Best KR, and Peoples' Choice.  In my humble opinion, he deserved
> every one of them.  You will see his plane front and center of the big
> Gathering picture that Dave Mullins took, like they did several years ago.
> 
>  
> 
> Getting 10 KRs to show up with the weather so bad, shows how much the
> Builders want to contribute to this event, some of them even risk their life
> and come very close to losing it.  But in this case, I should have used the
> plural "lives", because apparently Steve has several of them.  As I saw him
> walking around the Gathering and talking to people, it was a bit "surreal"
> because you could never tell that he had been through that horrible ordeal.
> He always had a smile on his face and when asked about the accident, would
> find a way to put a positive slant on it, like, "I was going to replace that
> firewall anyway".   He was an inspiration to me, just by his being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics 
> 
> See you at the 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
> Bad Weather at Gathering time, is a killer or a real bummer.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
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KR> Home from Gathering

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi again everybody;

It was great seeing everyone again. It was a great weekend for the Gathering 
and I'm glad everyone got home safe and sound.

Dan Freeman

 Mark Jones  wrote: 
> Just wanted to let everyone know that N886MJ delivered me home safely. I 
> arrived in Stevens Point, WI at 11:00 AM. It was a beautiful flight and 
> smooth as glass all the way. Thanks to everyone who helped make the Gathering 
> happen and it was great to see everyone again. Let the countdown to KR 
> Gathering 2013 begin. Only 365 days.
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> KR Gathering 2012

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi  guys;

Well I'm here in town , I'll be out to the airport  after while. 
Dan Freeman.


 da...@windstream.net wrote: 
>  I posted to KRBuilder, a slideshow of some pics I took yesterday at the 
> Gathering.
>  
> http://krbuilder.org/
>  
> Scroll to near the bottom of the page.
> Click on KR Gathering 2012
>  
> You will get messages telling you that this could harm your computer.  That 
> is because it is an exe.  You choose.  As Larry always says, "Your results 
> may vary".
>  
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KR> Videos

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Cool videos Mark, nice landing. Ain't life good? YEE H!


 Mark Jones  wrote: 
> This link is of a high speed pass on runway 30 at KSTE.
> http://youtu.be/1QPWxqtv4cI
> 
> This link is a landing on runway 21 at KSTE. Note how smooth the wheel is on 
> landing. I always wondered what it did on touchdown. Now I know.
>  http://youtu.be/pfXagjar5IE
> 
> 
> 
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KR> KR2 crash in Tehachapi. And David Robbins is OK!

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Looks almost like my crash. I wonder if it was wind shear that got him too? 
He's hurt but I hope he's not hurt badly. Been there, done that.


 Craig Williams  wrote: 
> Found this:
> 
> http://www.tehachapinews.com/news/local/x1878939075/Plane-crashes-on-Tehachapi-Blvd-near-Dennison
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Marty Martin 
> To: KRnet  
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:42 AM
> Subject: KR> KR2 crash in Tehachapi. And David Robbins is OK!
>  
> >
> > Not a sparkling day for KR's unless you say that the pilot survied.  So
> > that makes it a GOOD DAY.  I have not talked to David Robbins, the pilot of
> > he KR2.  He was alone.  I don't know yet if he we coming in for a landing
> > or taking off.  I do know that he just got back from a trip back east.
> > Hopfully I will be able to talk to him soon.  Will get back to everone as l
> > get more information.
> >
> > Marty G. Martin
> >
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KR> O200 prop

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

What were all of the specs?

 Jeff Scott  wrote: 
> I've flown and tested a lot of props on the O-200 on my KR. The best 
> performer I've used has been from Prince Propellors. 
> 
>  Jeff Scott
>  Los Alamos, NM
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KR> O200 prop

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I was using a 58x72x3-1/2" from Ed Sterba and pulling 150mph (GPS) @2400rpm.
I don't know if there is a better one or not.


 Charles Babb  wrote: 
> Just purchased an O200 for my KR2S and would like to know what propeller is 
> most in use with this engine.
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KR> Engine mount

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 Jeff Scott sent me a couple of drawings for a engine mount. 
jscott.pla...@gmx.com

I understand it is from Rand/Robinson and it is labled for use with the KR-2S 
and the Continental O-200A engine with the caveat (warning) that if you use a 
alternator on the bottom/rear of the engine it might/will interfere with the 
lower cross bar of the mount, in which case it would need to be curved 
somewhat. (note) The verticle distance from the top firewall mount holes to the 
bottom firewall mount holes is 13" as per the drawing.

I altered my KR-2 mount demensions for my Original KR-2 by reducing the width 
of the top firewall mount holes from 30" for the KR-2S to 28" for the original 
KR-2 that I have and left the bottom holes at 26"across. I also increased the 
verticle spread from 13" to 14-1/2" by raising the top holes 3/4" and lowering 
the bottom holes 3/4" because that is what it was on KR-2, N4DD and the bottom 
cross member cleared the alternator just fine.

The KR-2S drawings that I have, show the firewall as being 1-3/4" wider than 
the KR-2 drawings that I have. I also made the mount 10-1/2" deep from the 
firewall to the face of the isolator mount bushings. The drawings show 11-1/2" 
from the firewall to the aluminum engine casting and if you add the Continental 
isolator bushings you can subtract 1" from that depth.

I have made my construction jig universal in that I can assemble any one of 
these mounts in the same jig by using the appropriately marked holes just in 
case I need too.

KR> New App and hardware for Ipad

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I thought someone might be interested in this for it's value in the real world 
too.

http://gpssimcable.com/support/x-plane/

KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but looking at the plan sheet for the 
KR-2S engine mount and the Cont. O-200 engine that Jeff sent me, I noticed that 
the spacing from the firewall to the O-200 engine mount casting (11-1/2") is 
just that, it does not show any isolator bushings which in the case of the 
O-200 would add another inch to the dimensions and make it (12-1/2") from the 
firewall to the casting and I kind of feel that might be just a little too far 
forward for the KR-2, so I made two sets of spacers for my jig so it can be 
made either way, 10-1/2" or 11-1/2".
I also made the top horizontal mount spacing 28" for the KR-2 and 30" for the 
KR-2S. The older KR-2 firewall was narrower than the new KR-2S by 1-3/4" 
according to both of my plan sets. But, does anyone have real time experiance 
with the KR-2 and the Cont. O-200 engine mounted farther forward than 10-1/2" 
from the firewall to the standard O-200 isolator mount bushings?   

KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Thanks gary 
I'm copying the old mount and it cleared the alternator 
but I'll check it just  the same.

 GaryH  wrote: 
> Dan,
> Watch the lower cross member of the O-200 engine mount for clearance from
> the alternator.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:30 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Engine mount
> 
> I've got the mount jig built and ready to start fitting the 4130 steel that
> I got from Wicks Aircraft.
> The original mount was so close to the firewall that you had to undue the
> mount bolts and slide the engine forward to pull the starter off and that
> was with a 3/8ths" aluminum spacer. The battery was mounted on the floor
> under my knees to get the weight forward and with two people in the plane it
> was tail heavy with full fuel untill you burned some off from the wings. So
> I think moving the engine forward will only help the weight and balance.
> 
> Of those who have the Cont. O-200 engine mounted in their plane, how far
> forward of your firewall are the face of your engine mount bushings? Mine
> will be 11-1/2" per the plans Jeff sent me. The old mount was about 10 or
> 10-1/2" without the 3/8ths" spacers.
> 
> Dan.
> 
>   
>  Larry&Sallie Flesner  wrote: 
> > At 12:24 PM 6/19/2012, you wrote:
> > >Ok I finally had some success with the KRnet search engine.
> > >
> > >It seems like Rand Robinson recommended the crank centerline be 
> > >1-1/2" below the top of the longeron.
> >
> 
> +++
> > 
> > I'm  using a HAPI VW mount for my 0-200 as did Marty Roberts.  My 
> > mount has 1 inch aluminum spacers on the firewall.  As I recall, the 
> > top mount bolts on the firewall are centered on the top spruce member 
> > on the firewall, in my case that is a 3/4 inch by 3 1/2 inch spruce 
> > plank, slightly bigger than the plans call for, and those bolts are 
> > in line with the top engine mount bolts. This puts the thrust line 
> > just a few inches below the top longerons and only a few inches below 
> > the horizontal stabilizer.  I'm guessing that a few inches up or down 
> > from there will make very little difference in the handling, only the 
> > fitting of the cowl.
> > 
> > As always, your results may vary. :-)
> > 
> > Larry Flesner
> > 
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KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I'm sorry, I was mistaken. Instead of 10 to 10-1/2" from the firewall it was 9 
to 9-1/2" from the firewall. You could just slide your index finger in between 
the starter and the firewall.
I'm using the original Cont. O-200 rubber engine isolater mount bushings and 
washers.
http://www.quickheads.com/store/fast-little-airplanes-flaps/firewall-forward/o-200-engine-mount-bushings

 Jeff Scott  wrote: 
> Dan,
> 
>  I'm glad you asked that question. I am using these mount adapters that allow 
> the O-200 to mount using the C-85 style mount bushings. 
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Continental-O-200-C-85-Engine-Mount-Adapters-O200-/270512715002>
>  The engine will sit close to an inch farther forward with the standard O-200 
> mount bushings (see picture at the bottom of the web site above). The 
> clearance is sufficient that one can easily change a magneto, starter, or 
> generator.
> 
>  That is not to say that you shouldn't or can't use the standard O-200 mount 
> bushings if you have them. For me, it was a way to change over from the C-85 
> to the O-200 without moving the engine forward which would have required a 
> rebuild of the cowl.
> 
>  -Jeff Scott
>  Los Alamos, NM
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> Sent: 06/21/12 01:30 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Engine mount
> 
>  I've got the mount jig built and ready to start fitting the 4130 steel that 
> I got from Wicks Aircraft. The original mount was so close to the firewall 
> that you had to undue the mount bolts and slide the engine forward to pull 
> the starter off and that was with a 3/8ths" aluminum spacer. The battery was 
> mounted on the floor under my knees to get the weight forward and with two 
> people in the plane it was tail heavy with full fuel untill you burned some 
> off from the wings. So I think moving the engine forward will only help the 
> weight and balance. Of those who have the Cont. O-200 engine mounted in their 
> plane, how far forward of your firewall are the face of your engine mount 
> bushings? Mine will be 11-1/2" per the plans Jeff sent me. The old mount was 
> about 10 or 10-1/2" without the 3/8ths" spacers. Dan.  Larry&Sallie 
> Flesner  wrote: > At 12:24 PM 6/19/2012, you wrote: > 
> >Ok I finally had some success with the KRnet search engine. > > > >It seems 
> like Rand Robinson recommended the crank centerline be > >1-1/2" below the 
> top of the longeron. > 
> +++
>  > > I'm using a HAPI VW mount for my 0-200 as did Marty Roberts. My > mount 
> has 1 inch aluminum spacers on the firewall. As I recall, the > top mount 
> bolts on the firewall are centered on the top spruce member > on the 
> firewall, in my case that is a 3/4 inch by 3 1/2 inch spruce > plank, 
> slightly bigger than the plans call for, and those bolts are > in line with 
> the top engine mount bolts. This puts the thrust line > just a few inches 
> below the top longerons and only a few inches below > the horizontal 
> stabilizer. I'm guessing that a few inches up or down > from there will make 
> very little difference in the handling, only the > fitting of the cowl. > > 
> As always, your results may vary. :-) > > Larry Flesner > > > 
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KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I've got the mount jig built and ready to start fitting the 4130 steel that I 
got from Wicks Aircraft.
The original mount was so close to the firewall that you had to undue the mount 
bolts and slide the engine forward to pull the starter off and that was with a 
3/8ths" aluminum spacer. The battery was mounted on the floor under my knees to 
get the weight forward and with two people in the plane it was tail heavy with 
full fuel untill you burned some off from the wings. So I think moving the 
engine forward will only help the weight and balance.

Of those who have the Cont. O-200 engine mounted in their plane, how far 
forward of your firewall are the face of your engine mount bushings? Mine will 
be 11-1/2" per the plans Jeff sent me. The old mount was about 10 or 10-1/2" 
without the 3/8ths" spacers.

Dan.


 Larry&Sallie Flesner  wrote: 
> At 12:24 PM 6/19/2012, you wrote:
> >Ok I finally had some success with the KRnet search engine.
> >
> >It seems like Rand Robinson recommended the crank centerline be 
> >1-1/2" below the top of the longeron.
> +++
> 
> I'm  using a HAPI VW mount for my 0-200 as did Marty Roberts.  My 
> mount has 1 inch aluminum spacers on the firewall.  As I recall, the 
> top mount bolts on the firewall are centered on the top spruce member 
> on the firewall, in my case that is a 3/4 inch by 3 1/2 inch spruce 
> plank, slightly bigger than the plans call for, and those bolts are 
> in line with the top engine mount bolts. This puts the thrust line 
> just a few inches below the top longerons and only a few inches below 
> the horizontal stabilizer.  I'm guessing that a few inches up or down 
> from there will make very little difference in the handling, only the 
> fitting of the cowl.
> 
> As always, your results may vary. :-)
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
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KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Ok I finally had some success with the KRnet search engine.

It seems like Rand Robinson recommended the crank centerline be 1-1/2" below 
the top of the longeron.

But I'm still open to other suggestions.

I couldn't find anything on my plans, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.

KR> Engine mount

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi Larry;

I haven't been able to find Larry Flesners current email address, anyone have 
it? 

Do you recall where the crankshaft centerline of your Cont. O-200 is in 
relation 
to the top of the top longeron of your KR-2? For example, 1" or 2" below the 
top 
of the top longeron? 
I seem to remember Mark Langford said his Corvair crank centerline was 2-5/16" 
below the top of the top longeron for better visability over the cowl but my 
search of the KR net didn't find anything. 

Also, how deep is your engine mount from the firewall face to the face of the 
mount bushings of your O-200 and would you change anything about it if you had 
the chance? 

I'm building a new mount. 

Thanks for your input, Dan. 

KR> 2600cc VW/Porsche Type 4 for sale

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi Ron;

Thanks for the performance numbers, I've got a brand new GP 2600cc VW type 4 
myself that I intend to use on my other KR-2 after I get healed up. It seems to 
be a great engine.
Myron D. Freeman

 Ronald Piekaar  wrote: 
> Hi everyone in KR land,
> It's Ron and I have a never used, zero time, never mounted 2600cc 
> VW/Porsche Type 4 engine for sale. The engine was originally built by 
> Great Planes Aircraft after which it was given to Revmaster Aviation 
> for  modification and testing.
> Revmaster installed a turbocharger, Revflow carburetor, custom exhaust, 
> oil cooler, HD prop flange and provided the machining necessary to 
> attach oil pressure, oil temp, EGT, CHT and manifold pressure 
> instrumentation as well as various other work (all documentation comes 
> with engine).
> Dyno test showed that the engine developed 100 hp @ 3400 rpm @ 36" 
> manifold pressure and an amazing 119 hp @ 3400 rpm @ 40" manifold 
> pressure (original test charts come with engine).
> The engine was to be installed on a KR-2S, which quite frankly, I'm 
> wondering now if I'll ever have time and money to finish (I started 
> this project in 1994...I was so much younger then).
> The engine was built in hopes of contending for the Nobel Prize for 
> Pocket Rocketry. Maybe someone out there can use this engine and still 
> win it.
> The "I'm willing to take a real hosing" asking price is $8500 f.o.b. 
> Curlew, WA but I will, of course, consider any serious and reasonable 
> offer. Compared to the cost of any other engine boasting a proven 119 
> hp, this is a great buy.
> 
>   
> 
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KR> The knife mystery

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

(quote)Someone from this list took Dan's mention of the EMT's remark over to 
the 
AOPA forums and posted it there and wouldn't you know . . . it's turned 
into a screaming thread over there too. 
Mike - KSEE

Oh Lord help us all. This has got to stop somewhere.
Myron D. Freeman

KR> Careful what you carry with you

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

No! no! no! no! guys, let's don't get this blown clear out of proportion over 
nothing. The knife means nothing to me, after all they were there to save my 
life. 
My only intention in bringing the subject up was to point out what this country 
is coming too.
Please, let's just drop it. I'm not upset at anybody.
MyronD. Freeman. 


 bobby burington  wrote: 
> Hi Lee;
> 
> Well in my case I certinly wouldn't pursue it Myron D. Freeman
> 
>  
> Hi Dan,
>  
> Looks like you won't have to pursue this. One of the the people I work with 
> is the the Fire chief and Emergency services director for the county, he is 
> also the Homeland Security director for the county and he got real upset 
> about how the EMT at that scene handled himself. He said the EMT had 
> absolutely no reason or authority to do what he did and He is planning on 
> calling the airport and getting the information on the response company and 
> technicians and filing a formal complaint with their director himself.   
>  
> Bobby Burington
> California KR Builder 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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KR> Careful what you carry with you

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi Lee;

Well in my case I certinly wouldn't pursue it and besides it might still be 
laying around MVN somewhere where it could have been misplaced.
Have a great week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman

 Lee Parker  wrote: 
> I spent 31 years in a public safety career.  Any item that was in a private 
> airplane was considered personal property.  We were instructed to return any 
> personal items to the owner.  Guns were also considered private property and 
> returned to the owner.  On the other hand I live in Tennessee and we respect 
> the right to bear arms.  Other states may be different.  EMT's in Tn. have no 
> authority to take any persons property unless it has to do with the injured 
> persons injuries or well being.  That includes guns, knives, etc.  That EMT 
> should be reprimanded.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Benjamin Copeland 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 8:26:51 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Careful what you carry with you
> 
> Dan,
> Call the Emergency Medical Services office and ask for the Director. You 
> haven't heard from the police because you didn't break a law. An EMT has 
> absolutely no authority to confiscate anything - they can remove stuff if it 
> hampers their job of providing medical services - they cannot take 
> anything - period. I was an EMT for four years from NC to Hawaii. He 
> probably didn't steal your knife (but maybe) - for sure he was an idiot with 
> an ego over stepping his authority. Reminds me of small-time security 
> officers who think their paramilitary police. Yea, I was in security for a 
> SHORT time too.
> 
> Ben
> just2...@together.net
> 
> Dan said:
> "...reporting it to Homeland Security.". "... they confiscated my knife 
> anyway but the police haven't been here to arrest me yet."
> 
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> 
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KR> Careful what you carry with you

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Hi Randy;

Yes, I'm sure he was just joking.

 Randy Smith  wrote: 
> Could it be he was just trying to make a joke. I have a friend that is a 
> captain at DFW airport fire dept and they believe a lot of the rules are 
> stupid to.
> 
> --- On Fri, 10/30/09, mfreem...@indy.rr.com  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: mfreem...@indy.rr.com 
> Subject: KR> Careful what you carry with you
> To: "kr...@mylist.net" 
> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 7:43 PM
> 
> 
> Hi guys and girls;
> 
> (Quote)I think that I would contact the EMT's boss and ask him (Her?) what 
> happened 
> to the knife. Want to bet that it was never turned in? 
> 
> Oh no, that old, well worn knife is the least of my concerns, besides my wife 
> bought me a brand new one, they only cost $10 and the old one could still be 
> at MVN laying on the runway somewhere.
> I just wanted to point out what might be a problem for pilots in this crazy 
> world now a days.
> 
> Have a great week everybody.
> Myro D. Freeman 
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KR> Careful what you carry with you

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi JC;

Yeah, I suppose I could be in danger of hi-jacking myself couldn't I? Or taking 
over an airport from the inside after landing.
Oh well, anyway I `sort of think that the EMT was mocking the condition of this 
country now a days, like a tounge in cheek joke.

Years ago I flew myself from Indiana to New Mexico on vacation to shoot at the 
Whittington Center ranges there. I had half a dozen handguns, several high 
power rifles and over 60 pounds of ammo in the plane and no one thought a thing 
about it. Oh how times have changed.

I already have another KR-2 under construction to keep me busy. It's has been 
converted to the new airfoil 
Have a great day J.C.
Myron D. Freeman

 JC Marais  wrote: 
> Dear Mr. Freeman,
> 
> We all know that there are strict rules about carrying dangerous items on
> planes. You are NOT allowed to take any knives, firing arms or explosives on
> an aircraft, since you could use it to hijack the plane, or even blow it up.
> 
> ... I'm not sure what happens if the aircraft owner, passengers, crew and
> pilots on board are all the same (single) person. Possibly you could
> threaten yourself to do something dangerous?
> 
> I'm glad to see your mails coming through again on a more regular basis.
> 
> Any plans yet for your next plane?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> JC
> 
> JC Marais
> Centurion
> South Africa
> 082-401-5259
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> Hi guys and girls;
> 
> My eye surgery went perfect and took less than an hour, oh I'm so glad
> that's all over with.
> 
> Hey, a word of warning. Watch what you carry with you while you are flying!
> If your not already aware.
> 
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KR> Careful what you carry with you

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

 JC Marais  wrote: 
> Dear Mr. Freeman,
> 
> We all know that there are strict rules about carrying dangerous items on
> planes. You are NOT allowed to take any knives, firing arms or explosives on
> an aircraft, since you could use it to hijack the plane, or even blow it up.
> 
> ... I'm not sure what happens if the aircraft owner, passengers, crew and
> pilots on board are all the same (single) person. Possibly you could
> threaten yourself to do something dangerous?
> 
> I'm glad to see your mails coming through again on a more regular basis.
> 
> Any plans yet for your next plane?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> JC
> 
> JC Marais
> Centurion
> South Africa
> 082-401-5259
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> Hi guys and girls;
> 
> My eye surgery went perfect and took less than an hour, oh I'm so glad
> that's all over with.
> 
> Hey, a word of warning. Watch what you carry with you while you are flying!
> If your not already aware.
> 
> 
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KR> Careful what you carry with you

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi guys and girls;

(Quote)I think that I would contact the EMT's boss and ask him (Her?) what 
happened 
to the knife. Want to bet that it was never turned in? 

Oh no, that old, well worn knife is the least of my concerns, besides my wife 
bought me a brand new one, they only cost $10 and the old one could still be at 
MVN laying on the runway somewhere.
I just wanted to point out what might be a problem for pilots in this crazy 
world now a days.

Have a great week everybody.
Myro D. Freeman 

KR> Careful what you carry with you

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi guys and girls;

My eye surgery went perfect and took less than an hour, oh I'm so glad that's 
all over with.

Hey, a word of warning. Watch what you carry with you while you are flying! If 
your not already aware.

As they were cutting my clothes off of me on the runway, one of the EMT's was 
going through my pockets and found my little 2" Swiss Army pocket knife that I 
use for everything, mostly manicuring my nails and he asked the senior EMT 
about reporting it to Homeland Security. I didn't here his answer but they 
confiscated my knife anyway but the police haven't been here to arrest me yet.
This country is going plain stupid.
Well anyway, have a great week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman

KR> Thanks to all

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi guys and girls;

I had my final surgery today, it was on my eye socket. All went very well and 
they expect no further problems.
I can now transfer and pivot on my right foot with full weight which opens up a 
whole new range of mobility options, so things are looking up in a big way and 
my doctor says I'm about 4 weeks ahead of where he expected me to be, praise 
the Lord.

I want to take this opportunity to thank all of the dozens and dozens of KR 
netters who have sent me private e-mails from all over the world with 
encouragement and their prayers for my recovery, I simply cannot thank you 
enough.
Have a great week everybody and thanks again.
Myron D. Freeman.  

KR> My personal items

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi guys and girls;

Some good news, I just recieved a box from Chris Collins at MVN airport with 
all of my personal items in it and believe it or not nothing was damaged or 
missing except for the rubber duck antenna on my hand held radio but that's OK 
because I have a spare anyway. Even my glasses were their with only the right 
lense popped out which was easy for me to fix, so I don't even have to replace 
my glasses now. If only I could say as much for Ol' Blue. I'm really sorry 
about that.
Have agreat week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman 

KR> It's not over yet.

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Thanks everybody for your best wishes, I appriciate them very much.
I was wrong about the package that was coming, it was somethin else. So I'm 
still looking for my personal items to show up one of these days.
Have a great week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman.

 mfreem...@indy.rr.com wrote: 
> Hi guys and girls;
> 
> I had hoped it was all over and I could just lay back and heal but I got a 
> phone call this afternoon and was told that I am being scheduled for facial 
> surgery for fractures around my right eye. I was hoping it just needed to 
> heal on it's own but I guess not.
> I got a package, I hope from Chris Collins at MVN with all of my personal 
> items from the accident scene. I can only hope that everything survived in 
> better shape than I did, especially the expensive stuff. We'll see.
> I've heard no comment from the FAA or the NTSB yet but they sent back all of 
> my log books and papers. It may take while.
> Have a great week everybody.
> Myron D. Freeman  
> 
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KR> It's not over yet.

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi guys and girls;

I had hoped it was all over and I could just lay back and heal but I got a 
phone call this afternoon and was told that I am being scheduled for facial 
surgery for fractures around my right eye. I was hoping it just needed to heal 
on it's own but I guess not.
I got a package, I hope from Chris Collins at MVN with all of my personal items 
from the accident scene. I can only hope that everything survived in better 
shape than I did, especially the expensive stuff. We'll see.
I've heard no comment from the FAA or the NTSB yet but they sent back all of my 
log books and papers. It may take while.
Have a great week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman  

KR> Thanks Guys & Girls

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Thanks JC
Dan.
 JC Marais  wrote: 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> Good to see that you are back on the net and talking again.
> I really hope for a speedy recovery. 
> 
> Regards.
> 
> JC
> 
> JC Marais
> Centurion
> South Africa
> 082-401-5259
> 
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KR> Thanks Guys & Girls

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi Guys & Girls;
My wife just called me here at the rehab center to tell me that she found a 
package at the front door when she got home this evening. It was from Larry 
Fleshner and had a 2009 Gathering hat in it.
Thanks to Larry and all who were involved, I really appreciate it.

I'm really sorry about Ol' Blue, that's not how I wanted it remembered

I've got one more operation on the 12th of October to repair my left heel and 
ankle and pin my left pinky finger, then I might be back home by Thanks Giving.

Again, thanks to everyone.
Dan.

KR> new airfoil wing skins

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Since Dan Diehl already is equipped to do it and that's his trade why 
not see if he will do it for a price.



- Original Message -
From: Mark Langford 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:10 pm
Subject: KR> new airfoil wing skins

> >I believe I smell a good idea brewing here. Anyone feel like
> building a set of solid core stub and outer wings with the new 
> airfoils? <
> 
> Several people have rumbled that they "might" do it, but I guess 
> it's time 
> for somebody to actually do it.  I guess I'll plan on doing it, 
> since it 
> needs to be done and it doesn't seem to be happening.  I'd like 
> some new 
> wings for my next plane, and I'll be able to start on it now that 
> N56ML is 
> "done enough to fly".  I'll start thinking about the exact 
> configuration 
> (how to make this work with either "normal" or "bent-up" spars), etc.
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> 
> 
> 
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KR> angle of incidence, AS504x

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Try them in X-Plane, It's fun to experiment with.

- Original Message -
From: Mark Langford 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2006 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: KR> angle of incidence, AS504x

> Russ Bell wrote:
> 
> > What is current thought on AOI for the AS504x
> > airfoils? Looks like initial calculations were 1
> > degree. Has that been found to be optimal?
> 
> All that have been built to data have been 1 degree and nobody's 
> complainedyet.  My fuselage is right at zero degrees at low 
> altitude wide open with
> one degree.  The question might be "how often do we fly at low 
> altitude wide
> open", and my answer would be almost never.  For that reason, I 
> don't see a
> problem with 2 degree eithers, which would give you a slightly 
> better view
> over the cowling, if nothing else, with little if any drag 
> penalty, unless
> you spend all of your time doing high speed passes at sea level.  
> On the
> other hand, if your aft spar is already glued in place, you can 
> leave it
> there and it becomes a no-brainer...
> 
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> 
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KR> angle of incidence, AS504x

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I have tried them all in X-Plane and unless someone can provide better 
models of the airfoils, ie. RAF48, AS-5045, AS-5046 and AS-5048, I 
have found that the RAF48 and AS-5045 work well. I have also settled 
on +1.0 degree incidence for the main wing and
-1.0 degree for the horz. stab.. It seems to give a good level ride at 
cruise. Also I have been using about 1 1/2 degrees of washout in the 
wings which seem to give good performance near stall and good high 
speed cruise performance. Keep in mind that this is in X-Plane.
- Original Message -
From: wilder_jeff Wilder 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, February 3, 2006 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: KR> angle of incidence, AS504x

> 
> I have read much on the new airfoil from the posts... but I am 
> still left 
> wondering
> 
> what are the net effects of the new airfoil over the raf48?
> 
> I have 2 sets of wings.  DD and another standard set that I've 
> picked up... 
> I am seriously thinking about selling them and building out the 
> new airfoil.
> 
> Anyone have an idea if the effor would be worth the work?
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> 
> -Jeff Wilder
> CISSP,CCE,C/EH
> 
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> 
> 
> >From: "Bob Glidden" 
> >Reply-To: KRnet 
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> >
> >I think what Mark L is saying is that if your rear spar is 
> already set for
> >the 1 degree there is no real advantage to raising it to 2 degree...
> >
> >Bob Glidden
> >Eminence,Indiana
> >KR2S N181FW (building)
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> >- Original Message -
> >From: "michaela" 
> >To: "KRnet" 
> >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:36 PM
> >Subject: Re: KR> angle of incidence, AS504x
> >
> >
> >Mark et al.:
> >I'd like to follow up on your last comment with a 
> question/clarification.>
> >I've read your thoughts on AOI etc. I believe the project (boat 
> with main
> >spars in place) I just purchased was built to original KR2 plans, 
> so I
> >assume it is using 3.5degre AOI for wings?. I intend on going 
> with the
> >AS504x.  I've been thinking I will have to find a way to raise 
> the rear 
> >spar
> >to get close to 1-2degree AOI. Are you suggesting its probably 
> not worth 
> >the
> >effort if my main concern is cruise AOA at altitude of 5-10K.
> >
> >I'm also leaning toward lengthening the H.S. and increasing area 
> of rudder.
> >Project appears past point where lengthening the fuse seems 
> reasonable, so 
> >I
> >am probably stuck with it as is. But I'd like to make whatever 
> other tweaks
> >I can to improve stability. Of course, I'll play close attention 
> to keeping
> >COG in range...
> >
> >Anyone's thoughts welcome. Thanks.
> >
> >Tony
> >
> >
> > >  ---Original Message---
> > >  From: Mark Langford 
> > >  Subject: Re: KR> angle of incidence, AS504x
> > >  Sent: 03 Feb '06 01:29
> > >
> > >  Russ Bell wrote:
> > >
> > >  > What is current thought on AOI for the AS504x
> > >  > airfoils? Looks like initial calculations were 1
> > >  > degree. Has that been found to be optimal?
> > 

KR> KR Plans

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

There's more on the net than there is in the plans.

- Original Message -
From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:48 am
Subject: Re: KR> KR Plans

>Copyrights last a looonngg time, Virg
> 
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:32:59 + airgu...@comcast.net writes:
> > I would think that KE1 and early KR2 plans would be in the 
> public 
> > domain by now.  I've been working on my 2 so long patents have 
> run 
> > out ;).
> > 
> > Paul 
> > Derry, NH
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> > 
> 
> 
> Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
> www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
> Miami ,Fl
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KR> buying KR plans

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

You know, when I used to build and fly R/C models there was a magazine 
called R/C Modeler and they used to sell the best and easiest to use 
plans that I ever saw and I often wondered why someone didn't do the 
same for home built because a lot of pilots came from the model plane 
world and it would be a natural. 

- Original Message -
From: "Robert L. Stone" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: KR> buying KR plans

> Frank,
> I heard that Mark Langford by himself or with some other 
> people tried 
> to purchase the business from Mrs Rand and the price was so high 
> that it was 
> obvious, she does not want to sell.
> 
> Bob Stone
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Frank Ross" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:33 AM
> Subject: RE: KR> buying KR plans
> 
> 
> > When Jeanette gets tired of running this business, it
> > will probably be bought for a small fee by one of the
> > competitors who will promptly bury it as deep as they
> > can.
> > Consider the Q-2 and Dragonfly.
> > Frank
> >
> > --- Ron Hoskins  wrote:
> >
> >> To get your set of plans, send the money to RR per
> >> web site instructions and you will receive them
> >> sooner or later. I agree that we owe Ken for this
> >> great design but also relize that it is the KR's
> >> that keep this company going and not by the way
> >> Jenette is runing it. It may be a small business,
> >> but it should be treated as one. I was able to get
> >> Jenette on the phone before ordering and she asured
> >> me that the plans would be shipped as soon as she
> >> got me personal check. The check cleared my bank 6
> >> days later and the plans arrived 4weeks later. I am
> >> starting to build this great little plane, but with
> >> the service I had with the plans, I will not be
> >> buying anything furture from Jenette. I also talked
> >> with another person that had been waiting for a
> >> month for his plans and said he was waiting for them
> >> to arrive so he could quit doing buisness with her.
> >>  Hope this doesent tick-off to many people, but this
> >> is no way to run a buisiness. She is lucky that Ken
> >> designed such a great little airplane.   Thanks
> >> Ken...
> >
> >
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KR> KR2 Simulator Is Very Much Appreciated!

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi Phil;

Phil said,

>I appreciate the programming "bug"
>with the retractable tail-wheel; 
>It's never down when you need it,
>forcing the pilot to fly a tail-skid
>aircraft without rear-wheel steering, 
>It's not a tail-wheel, exactly.

Which plane are you flying? The one I put on the net does not have a 
retractable tail wheel unless someone changed it and it is (or was)
fully steer-able.

Regards, Dan.

- Original Message -
From: Phil Lester 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:10 am
Subject: KR> KR2 Simulator Is Very Much Appreciated!

> I am extremely grateful to those who provided 
> the KR2 model for x-plane flight simulator.
> 
> I am a a firm believer in the "simulators are useful" 
> camp and I believe they have saved me countless
> hours and funds climbing the learning curve.
> 
> You have saved me a lot time and work, 
> and have probably done a better job than 
> I would have done, as I purchased a 
> dedicated computer exactly for this purpose,
> and was (and still am) prepared to create 
> my own model.
> 
> In retrospect, I would probably gone directly
> back to the hangar for months of repairs after 
> about 30 seconds of taxi-time had I tried to
> fly my KR2S based on conventional tailwheel 
> training.
> 
> This is one squirrelly bird!
> And it behaves just like the 
> reports I've read.
> 
> Cruise speeds are right, it's pitch-unstable, 
> incredibly maneuverable, and the stick is
> very helicopter-like.
> 
> It takes about as much skill to fly
> as a helicopter simulation. IMO.
> 
> But I had to speed up my control inputs
> to ultralight-rapidity to adapt to it.
> 
> It reminds me a lot of a very muscular,
> fast, high-performance ultralight.
> 
> For me, that makes it not just extremely
> challenging, but also the ideal, fun airplane.
> 
> I did not understand in fullness what I 
> was getting into when I bought my 80% complete
> KR2S project.
> 
> But I believe I now have understanding, 
> and it is a revelation exhilarating in 
> its power and sobering for the amount of 
> work it tells me I have ahead to become 
> a pilot worthy of this excellent aircraft.
> 
> Anyway, back to the simulator:
> I appreciate the programming "bug"
> with the retractible tailwheel; 
> It's never down when you need it,
> forcing the pilot to fly a tail-skid
> aircraft without rear-wheel steering, 
> It's not a tailwheel, exactly.
> 
> This provides a more challenging training experience.
> Thank You.
> 
> -Phil
> 
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KR> Engine investigation so far

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Looks like your going to be flying your X-Plane model for a while, 
Well, at least you have one now.

- Original Message -
From: Dan Heath 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, January 2, 2006 6:07 pm
Subject: KR> Engine investigation so far

> The initial finding is that it is not the pistons, but I won't 
> know for sure
> until tomorrow as I did not actually try to remove either of the 
> cylinders. 
> I just loosened the heads so they moved and figured that if it was 
the
> pistons, the cylinders would move as I tried to turn the prop, and 
> it is
> still stuck solid.
> The engine has been taken down to the bare engine so I can begin 
> removingthe heads and cylinders tomorrow, if that is what I decide 
> to do.  I was not
> able to contact the local VW expert as they were closed today.  I 
> also want
> to consult with Steve, but think that I need to get into the 
> engine so I
> have some information for him.
> I checked the oil again today, and it was barely off the full mark.
> 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time 
> for building
> is OVER.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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KR> Engine investigation so far

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

What's missing?

You want to try my new file?

- Original Message -
From: Dan Heath 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, January 2, 2006 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: KR> Engine investigation so far

> Yea, but it still isn't what I expected an X-Plane to be.  I am 
> going to
> keep at it even if I have to get professional help to get it 
> right. 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time 
> for building
> is OVER.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> Date: 01/02/06 19:00:50
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Engine investigation so far
> 
> Looks like your going to be flying your X-Plane model for a while,
> Well, at least you have one now.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Dan Heath 
> Date: Monday, January 2, 2006 6:07 pm
> Subject: KR> Engine investigation so far
> 
> > The initial finding is that it is not the pistons, but I won't
> > know for sure
> > until tomorrow as I did not actually try to remove either of the
> > cylinders.
> > I just loosened the heads so they moved and figured that if it was
> the
> > pistons, the cylinders would move as I tried to turn the prop, and
> > it is
> > still stuck solid.
> > The engine has been taken down to the bare engine so I can begin
> > removingthe heads and cylinders tomorrow, if that is what I decide
> > to do.  I was not
> > able to contact the local VW expert as they were closed today.  I
> > also want
> > to consult with Steve, but think that I need to get into the
> > engine so I
> > have some information for him.
> > I checked the oil again today, and it was barely off the full mark.
> >
> >
> > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time
> > for building
> > is OVER.
> > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> > ___
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KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls

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http://krbuilder.org/X-Plane/KR2_mf.zip

- Original Message -
From: bi...@sbcglobal.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2006 9:20 pm
Subject: RE: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and 
hopefuls

> Please send me a copy to bi...@sbc.global.net.  Thanks and Happy New
> Year!
> Henry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf Of mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:50 AM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls
> 
> I have a completed, flying model of the KR-2 for the X-Plane, 
> flight 
> simulation program. If you would like a copy of it, let me know.
> 
> I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and 
> prosperous 
> New Year. 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

http://krbuilder.org/X-Plane/KR2_mf.zip




- Original Message -
From: patrusso 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:53 am
Subject: Re: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and 
hopefuls

> Serge
> I also would love a copy and am willing to share any expenses 
> incurred 
> there-in. I am at patru...@sover.net. Thanks
> Pat
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "'KRnet'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:20 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and 
> hopefuls
> 
> > Please send me a copy to bi...@sbc.global.net.  Thanks and Happy 
New
> > Year!
> > Henry
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> > Behalf Of mfreem...@indy.rr.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:50 AM
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > Subject: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and 
> hopefuls>
> > I have a completed, flying model of the KR-2 for the X-Plane, 
flight
> > simulation program. If you would like a copy of it, let me know.
> >
> > I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and prosperous
> > New Year.
> >
> >
> >
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KR> Bad day

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Well I am qualified but I'm retired now let me know what you find, by 
the way Steve Bennett at Great Plains Aircraft Co. would be a great 
choice if you want an expert to do it.

- Original Message -
From: Dan Heath 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:26 pm
Subject: KR> Bad day

> Well, there won't be any flying for Dan and Jerry anytime soon.  
> We put the
> tail in a valley between the taxi way and the runway to get the 
> tail low. 
> Jerry was running it at about 3000 rpm, with less than a1/4 tank 
> and it was
> running great.  He started to pull back and the engine came to a 
> very abrupt
> stop.  It is frozen.  There was no indication that anything was 
> wrong.  No
> smoke, no foul temp readings, no nothing.  So now back to the shop 
> with the
> engine.  I don't like working on them.  I can build them, but 
> really don't
> trust myself with it and I don't know who will work on a VW for an 
> airplane,that I would trust. 
> 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time 
> for building
> is OVER.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I'll send it in the next few hours.

- Original Message -
From: Michael 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, December 24, 2005 11:43 am
Subject: Re: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and 
hopefuls

> I would like a copy too please.
>  thanks,
>  Michael in Indy.
> 
> mfreem...@indy.rr.com wrote:
>  I have a completed, flying model of the KR-2 for the X-Plane, 
> flight 
> simulation program. If you would like a copy of it, let me know.
> 
> I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and 
> prosperous 
> New Year. 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I have a completed, flying model of the KR-2 for the X-Plane, flight 
simulation program. If you would like a copy of it, let me know.

I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and prosperous 
New Year. 

KR> Prop choice - power requirements

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

It say the "page cannot be displayed". it's either gone for good or 
the server is down.

- Original Message -
From: Peter Diffey 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:25 pm
Subject: KR> Prop choice - power requirements

> Hi,
> 
> Has anybody ever published a power/max speed graph for a typical 
> KR2 and 
> a similar thing for a typical KR2S.
> 
> There is a website http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/javaprop.htm.
> 
> It has a Java applet you can use to design your own prop, you just 
> need 
> to put in max speed, max power, prop diam, and it will work out 
> pitch, 
> and blade chord..
> 
> Thats where this power/max speed graph comes in, given I know how 
> much 
> power my engine produces, I need to know the max speed - then 
> bingo I 
> can ask prop people intellegent questions instead of the usual 
> finger in 
> air approach.
> 
> Pete Diffey
> St Albans, UK
> 
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KR> Prop choice - power requirements

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The aerotools/airfoils web site still isn't working. It says "the page 
cannot be displayed".



- Original Message -
From: Peter Diffey 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:25 pm
Subject: KR> Prop choice - power requirements

> Hi,
> 
> Has anybody ever published a power/max speed graph for a typical 
> KR2 and 
> a similar thing for a typical KR2S.
> 
> There is a website http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/javaprop.htm.
> 
> It has a Java applet you can use to design your own prop, you just 
> need 
> to put in max speed, max power, prop diam, and it will work out 
> pitch, 
> and blade chord..
> 
> Thats where this power/max speed graph comes in, given I know how 
> much 
> power my engine produces, I need to know the max speed - then 
> bingo I 
> can ask prop people intellegent questions instead of the usual 
> finger in 
> air approach.
> 
> Pete Diffey
> St Albans, UK
> 
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KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi; 

Sorry about the delay.

What kind of $ are you thinking of?

I don't know yet if I'll be wanting to part mine out.

I don't know if you fly X-Plane on your computer or not but I have 
built a couple of KR-2 models for X-Plane to post for down load as a 
free-ware on the Internet and I would like to do a real cool looking 3-
D interior using pictures from a KR pilots eye-view point and your 
cockpit looks great. Would you be interested in possibly participating 
with some digital pictures?

Regards, Dan. 

- Original Message -
From: jeffyor...@qx.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:58 am
Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale

> I could be interested in that type 4 engine if you part out your 
> project.
> I might also want to sell my flying KR-2 as I have purchased a 
> spam can and
> I could use the money out of the KR-2 to update the panel and 
> paint .
> 
> I know, you are asking yourself, why would he be interested in the 
> engineand at the same time interested in selling his KR.
> 
> If I decide I can afford to keep my KR then I would be interested 
> in 94HP
> and it would seem to me that converting from a 2180 to a type 4 
> would be
> easier then converting to a Corvair.
> 
> You can see the latest pictures of my KR on my website if 
> interested, but I
> will say up front, this would not be a cheap KR
> 
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my 
> KR-2
> Email jeffyor...@qx.net
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:19 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale
> 
> 
> > I've got a KR-2 in boat stage with wing spars and a Dragonfly 
canopy
> > with a finished Great Plains type 4 VW engine at about 94 hp 
> that has
> > been run tested.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Tim Brown 
> > Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 1:40 am
> > Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale
> >
> > > call me at PM.(909)337-6597
> > >
> > > ---   wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks - Looking for a KR2 project for sale.
> > > > Preferably in the boat stage but will consider
> > > > anything
> > > >
> > > > Tom Bovington
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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KR>Kr-2 for X-Plane

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As Soon as I get them posted to a down load site I'll let everyone 
know.

- Original Message -
From: "G. Harris (Pumpkin Man)" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: KR>Kr-2 for X-Plane

> I'd be interested in those X-Plane files! :)
> 
> 
> Thanks, and do not archive 
> 
> George  Harris
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale
> 
> 
> > Hi; 
> > 
> > Sorry about the delay.
> > 
> > What kind of $ are you thinking of?
> > 
> > I don't know yet if I'll be wanting to part mine out.
> > 
> > I don't know if you fly X-Plane on your computer or not but I 
> have 
> > built a couple of KR-2 models for X-Plane to post for down load 
> as a 
> > free-ware on the Internet 
> 
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Fw: KR> kr2 for sale

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If anyone is wanting to find complete and new type-4 cylinder kits for 
the 2000 cc V W engine, I have them and a good extra case also.

- Original Message -
From: roy root 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:32 pm
Subject: Fw: KR> kr2 for sale

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "roy root" 
> To: "k r net" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: KR> kr2 for sale
> 
> 
> > due to illness i am selling my kr2 tryke project. this plane 
> setting on
> gear. new tires,wheels brakes,lines.cables&pullys installed, adj. 
> seatsw/cushions installed, holes cut for gauges,rev master motor 
> mount cowl done.
> wings done withspeed brakes,full flaps hasspoiler in place of all. 
> choise of
> vw type2 engine 1-1800cc 1-2000cc goes with it.phone for more 
> info. loc. at
> salome az. 80 miles west of phoenix. first$2500. takes it. roy 
> root 928 859
> 4117 rootd...@tds.net
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KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

I've got a KR-2 in boat stage with wing spars and a Dragonfly canopy 
with a finished Great Plains type 4 VW engine at about 94 hp that has 
been run tested.

- Original Message -
From: Tim Brown 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 1:40 am
Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale

> call me at PM.(909)337-6597
> 
> ---   wrote:
> 
> > Hi folks - Looking for a KR2 project for sale.
> > Preferably in the boat stage but will consider
> > anything
> > 
> > Tom Bovington
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR

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I may be speaking out of turn or even about something that I know 
nothing about but if I'm not mistaken you would need those spec's for 
MSFS 2004 to build a true flying model. But in X-Plane you build the 
plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. That's the big 
selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing airfoil model or the 
size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what HP your engine is 
and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. By the way, all the 
tools to do that come with X-Plane and the new scenery is a blast of 
reality. Check out the screen shots at   (http://x-plane.com) Regards, 
Dan.

- Original Message -
From: Dan Heath 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 5:27 pm
Subject: KR> X-Plane SIM of the KR

> I am going to get a professional to put together a KR2 for the X-
> Plane SIM. 
> I will be glad to share this file with anyone who wants it when it is
> finished.
> 
> I need information like this:
> 
> climb rates 
> climb speed 
> cruise speeds 
> cruise power settings 
> roll rates in degrees per second 
> the percentage of aft stick you need to stall the plane 
> 
> The more info that I can give him, the better he can tune the 
> plane.  This
> is a ONE TIME shot, so send me your stuff and I will average them 
out,
> taking out those that may be way out.
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time 
> for building
> is OVER.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR

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Yeah, we need to remember them.

- Original Message -
From: Scott William 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 6:21 pm
Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR

> If I'm not mistaken, those screen shots show the twin
> towers still standing. 
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- mfreem...@indy.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > I may be speaking out of turn or even about
> > something that I know 
> > nothing about but if I'm not mistaken you would need
> > those spec's for 
> > MSFS 2004 to build a true flying model. But in
> > X-Plane you build the 
> > plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly.
> > That's the big 
> > selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing
> > airfoil model or the 
> > size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what
> > HP your engine is 
> > and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. By
> > the way, all the 
> > tools to do that come with X-Plane and the new
> > scenery is a blast of 
> > reality. Check out the screen shots at  
> > (http://x-plane.com) Regards, 
> > Dan.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Dan Heath 
> > Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 5:27 pm
> > Subject: KR> X-Plane SIM of the KR
> > 
> > > I am going to get a professional to put together a
> > KR2 for the X-
> > > Plane SIM. 
> > > I will be glad to share this file with anyone who
> > wants it when it is
> > > finished.
> > > 
> > > I need information like this:
> > > 
> > > climb rates 
> > > climb speed 
> > > cruise speeds 
> > > cruise power settings 
> > > roll rates in degrees per second 
> > > the percentage of aft stick you need to stall the
> > plane 
> > > 
> > > The more info that I can give him, the better he
> > can tune the 
> > > plane.  This
> > > is a ONE TIME shot, so send me your stuff and I
> > will average them 
> > out,
> > > taking out those that may be way out.
> > > 
> > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> > the pics 
> > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING
> > and the time 
> > > for building
> > > is OVER.
> > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hey, that's great, it will save me the trouble of trying to build it 
myself this winter. I've got those versions of the KR-2 for X-plane 
version 7x from Ameet but now I've got version 8.21 so it needed to be 
upgraded. 

In all the years that I've been involved with the KR's, I've seen few 
that have been built to the same overall spec's.

Regard's, Dan.

- Original Message -
From: Dan Heath 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 6:40 pm
Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR

> The person who is going to build the X-Plane KR2 has more 
> experience and
> knowledge on this subject than almost anyone, so if he says that 
> is the kind
> of information he needs, that is the kind of information I want to 
> give him.
> The more and more accurate information that we can send in, the 
> better the
> plane will be. I have X-Plane V 7 and tried to build one with 
> Ameet, and we
> were only partially successful. This one will be a good one if I 
> can get the
> information. All of what you said is true, but you have to give it 
the
> performance specs or it does not know how to act. Do you have X-
> Plane 8.2x?
> I gave up somewhere in 7. something., with the plane as it just 
> kept getting
> worse. I think the whole system is much better now, but won't know 
> until the
> new version arrives.
> 
> 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> 
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time 
> for building
> is OVER.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> But in X-Plane you build the
> 
> plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. That's the big
> 
> selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing airfoil model or 
the
> 
> size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what HP your engine is
> 
> and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. 
> 
> 
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KR> Type 4 V W engine

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

There was a guy named Darrel Haas who requested some info about the 
type 4 V W engine this morning.

He requested that it be e-mailed directly to him but it came back as 
undeliverable and I no longer have his original e-mail.

Try contacting me directly.