KR> radio?

[Larry Flesner]

At 03:07 PM 11/11/2016, you wrote:
>Larry,What radio do you have?Thank you,Bill Bill Jacobs,

+


Just google the following:


Rexon Air Band Handheld Transceiver/ Radio RHP-520

There is a "battery eliminator" available for $25 from Aircraft 
Spruce that allows the radio to plug directly into aircraft 
power.  Not sure why I can't find the radio on their web page but 
it's available from other sources.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8619.JPG  shows my 
installation, which could be done a bit neater but is quite 
convenient.  I'm using a dipole antenna tie wrapped to a cross base 
under the turtle deck.  The radio is a "nav-com" with 5 watt transmit 
power.  Crystal clear communications at 75 miles plus, standby 
frequency, and more.  Read the ad for spec's.  I am 5 star happy with 
mine.  I have mine plugged to a two place intercom but can be used 
with a headset directly using an adaptor.

Larry Flesner

KR> radio

[billjacobs...@yahoo.com]

Nice unit. Thanks for the heads up.
Bill Jacobs


-- Original message--From: Flesner via KRnet Date: Fri, Dec 18, 2015 
5:19 PMTo: KRnet;Cc: Flesner;Subject:KR> radioAnyone looking for a good 
handheld radio should check out the JHP nav/com at  
http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/handheld/jhp-520.htm or other 
suppliers.  With a good aircraft antenna I have picked up radio transmissions 
from as distant as 180 miles and on a recent trip I communicated with our local 
tower from 85 miles out.  A.S. sells an adaptor to easily plug in to aircraft 
power.  Great price for a good radio.  Use an adaptor to plug headset into 
radio or I plugged a two place intercom into the radio and headsets in to the 
intercom.  I didn't have room for a panel mount so mine is mounted below panel 
between my knees.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8619.JPG 
Good location.Larry 
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KR> radio

[Flesner]

Some real good prices on e-bay.  Make sure you get the 520 or maybe 
the 530.  The 500 is com only.
Larry Flesner

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>Anyone looking for a good handheld radio should check out the JHP 
>nav/com 
>at  http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/handheld/jhp-520.htm 
>or other suppliers.  With a good aircraft antenna I have picked up 
>radio transmissions from as distant as 180 miles and on a recent 
>trip I communicated with our local tower from 85 miles out.  A.S. 
>sells an adaptor to easily plug in to aircraft power.  Great price 
>for a good radio.  Use an adaptor to plug headset into radio or I 
>plugged a two place intercom into the radio and headsets in to the 
>intercom.  I didn't have room for a panel mount so mine is mounted 
>below panel between my 
>knees.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8619.JPG 
>Good location.
>
>Larry Flesner

KR> radio

[Flesner]

Anyone looking for a good handheld radio should check out the JHP 
nav/com 
at  http://www.acespilotshop.com/pilot-supplies/handheld/jhp-520.htm 
or other suppliers.  With a good aircraft antenna I have picked up 
radio transmissions from as distant as 180 miles and on a recent trip 
I communicated with our local tower from 85 miles out.  A.S. sells an 
adaptor to easily plug in to aircraft power.  Great price for a good 
radio.  Use an adaptor to plug headset into radio or I plugged a two 
place intercom into the radio and headsets in to the intercom.  I 
didn't have room for a panel mount so mine is mounted below panel 
between my 
knees.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8619.JPG 
Good location.

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio/GPS choices

[laser147 at juno.com]

Looks like the Yaesu FTA-750L has been improved.  Well worth taking a
look at.  Plus, as Brian mentioned, they bundle all the things you'll
need (headset adapter, alkaline battery pack, DC adapter, etc.) with the
radio.  Sporty's has improved that situation with their SP-400 so both
radios are about the same price with the same accessories.  Yaesu is a
great name when it comes to HF and other specialized radio equipment so
it makes sense their aviation radio would be pretty decent . . . although
earlier versions were definitely disliked by everyone who bothered to
write a review of their experience.  This new version with updated
firmware sounds like a good one - and unlike the SP-400, even has a GPS
built in.  Amazing what you can get for $400 these days.

Mike
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KR> radio/gps options

[laser147 at juno.com]

I strongly disagree with what Mark said.  Maybe I just misunderstood.  

Brian said, 

"Sportys gets expensive when you start adding the options."

That's why I never bought that radio, that and other complaints about
build quality, unreadable screen, etc.  Apparently they've improved the
earlier deficiencies and have also bundled those things that used to cost
extra into one package which now makes it a reasonable choice.  

Re the Yesau FTA-750, those are the first positive comments I've ever
read about it.  Maybe it's also been improved.  

Mike
KSEE


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KR> radio...

[Raymond Fuenzalida]

I also have the adapter for the hand held radio.  So I know I can listen
from my headset with no problem.  Didn't have 'transmit" worked out yet.  I
guess I could just do it from the radio itself, but there should be a
better way.  If you do end up with a schematic or just detailed
instructions on how to do it, I would appreciate a copy.  Thanks.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Dave Acklam via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I don't have a schematic, I do have a spare adapter that breaks it out to
> standard ga headset plugs and a PTT phono jack.
>
> 20 bucks and its yours. You can then use a commercial PTT or wire your own
> with a pushbutton switch, lamp cord or speaker wire and phono plug
> On May 26, 2015 10:54 AM, "GaryH via KRnet"  wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a schematic for a remote PTT switch for a Sporty's
> SP-200
> > Handheld Nav/Comm radio?
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> > Soli Deo Gloria
> >
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KR> radio...

[GaryH]

Does anyone have a schematic for a remote PTT switch for a Sporty's SP-200
Handheld Nav/Comm radio?



Gary



Soli Deo Gloria

KR> radio...

[Dave Acklam]

I don't have a schematic, I do have a spare adapter that breaks it out to
standard ga headset plugs and a PTT phono jack.

20 bucks and its yours. You can then use a commercial PTT or wire your own
with a pushbutton switch, lamp cord or speaker wire and phono plug
On May 26, 2015 10:54 AM, "GaryH via KRnet"  wrote:

> Does anyone have a schematic for a remote PTT switch for a Sporty's SP-200
> Handheld Nav/Comm radio?
>
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> Soli Deo Gloria
>
>
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KR> radio

[tommy waymack]

Your're grounding the A+ aircraft power when you key the mike.Make sure the
mike key line out of the radio  is correct.Tommy W.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

>
> you have a ground prob.  Randy Moore
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Pesak via KRnet 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 5:23 pm
> Subject: KR> radio
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> Talking radio problems, Every time I key the mike strange things happen on
> my
> panel. The trim LED lights go all the way to the down to the bottom of the
> scale,  the ammeter shows about + 20 amps, and it caused my clock to go hay
> wire. I hope this is something simple as grounding.
>  Thanks, Robert
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KR> radio interference

[Jeff Scott]

>
> 
> One more tidbit for anybody planning to install an iFLY 720 into their 
> panel...get the external antenna.  Mine is mounted to the surface of the 
> aluminum panel and appeared to work OK at first, but that's only because 
> the plane had plenty of time to acquire a signal.  Within minutes of 
> takeoff, it was simply not able to keep up with the movement and would 
> lose GPS lock, which rendered it essentially useless.  I recently bought 
> the remote antenna and now it acquires quickly and maintains lock.  I 
> flew N891JF back from Omaha with a suction cup mount on the canopy, and 
> that worked fine, but apparently the internal antenna is located such 
> that putting it in contact with a flat aluminum plate obscures it from a 
> view of the sky that's sufficient to work correctly.

If you buy an ADS-B unit to go with your iFly 720, you'll find that the iFly 
switches it's GPS position over to using the WAAS GPS position provided by the 
ADS-B unit rather than it's own internal GPS.  It does it with both my SkyRadar 
weather unit in the SuperCub and SkyGuard unit in the KR.  So you can put away 
the external antenna.
> 
> As for Jeff Scott's ten antennas, I have antenna envy...I only have 
> eight that I can think of, unless you count the remote ELT display wire 
> and the trim servo wires...then we're even!  And yes, they are all 
> internal.  I can tell you one thing for sure...the next plane will have 
> 11 antennas...for something.  Having flown with a loaner Stratus ADS-B 
> unit, some kind of ADS-B is in my future for sure, but it only requires 
> Bluetooth...no "external" antenna.

Hmm.  
1. Comm Antenna
2. Transponder Antenna
3. ELT antenna
4. PCAS receiver antenna
5. Dynon D1 GPS Receiver
6. iFly GPS receiver
7. ADS-B GPS receiver
8. ADS-B UAT out transmitter Antenna
9. 1090 mhz ADS-B (1090ES) In receiver antenna
10. 978 mhz ADS-B (UAT) In receiver antenna
11. ADS-B Wifi (ADS-B Data out)
12. iFly Wifi (ADS-B data in) 

And I usually carry a spare Lowrance GPS and external antenna in a bag as a 
backup. I was actually quite surprised the first time I started county all the 
antennae I had mounted in the plane.  Antennae 6 through 12 all serve the GPS 
and data displayed on it.  The PCAS unit and antenna will probably be removed 
once ADS-B is more widely used.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> radio

[Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM]

you have a ground prob.  Randy Moore


-Original Message-
From: Robert Pesak via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 5:23 pm
Subject: KR> radio


Hi everyone,
Talking radio problems, Every time I key the mike strange things happen on my 
panel. The trim LED lights go all the way to the down to the bottom of the 
scale,  the ammeter shows about + 20 amps, and it caused my clock to go hay 
wire. I hope this is something simple as grounding.
 Thanks, Robert
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KR> radio

[Robert Pesak]

Hi everyone,
Talking radio problems, Every time I key the mike strange things happen on my 
panel. The trim LED lights go all the way to the down to the bottom of the 
scale,  the ammeter shows about + 20 amps, and it caused my clock to go hay 
wire. I hope this is something simple as grounding.
 Thanks, Robert

KR> Radio Engine interference

[Phillip Matheson]

I guys
I have type 4 VW gear reduction engine, Dynamo type charging system.
I have A200 radio, at low RPM the radio is fine, High RPM cruise, I have 
heaps of interference  .
I have the radio suppressor's on the system everywhere, but still it is bad.

What can I do to help improve the system please.

Phil Matheson
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KR> Radio Engine interference

[Dan Heath]

I had a terrible problem when I first put in my Ifly.  Then I grounded the
Ifly directly to the battery and all was well.  I know that you cannot
ground everything directly to the battery, but maybe there is something to
be said about having the ground as large as possible and as close to the
battery as possible.

My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site

Daniel R. Heath -?Lexington, SC


-Original Message-

I have the radio suppressor's on the system everywhere, but still it is bad.

KR> Radio Engine interference

[Mark Langford]

Phil Matheson wrote:

 >>I have type 4 VW gear reduction engine, Dynamo type charging system.
I have A200 radio, at low RPM the radio is fine, High RPM cruise, I have 
heaps of interference  .
I have the radio suppressor's on the system everywhere, but still it is 
bad. What can I do to help improve the system please.<<

I have an early GPASC (Kohler) single phase alternator in my Diehl case 
on the Type 1 in N891JF, and I was almost EXPECTING to have to swap it 
out with a newer 3-phase and newer regulator to quieten it. But it has 
been absolutely interference-free in every way, with no suppression 
band-aids at all.  When I bought the plane, it had three different noise 
suppression devices installed in different places, but the radio was 
still crippled with interference.  I credit the noise-free performance 
to proper shielding and grounding of the radio, intercom, and headset 
jacks.  That is...all conductors to the headsets are grounded to the 
same place, the "radio end", which is in turn grounded directly to the 
ground busa flattened piece of quarter inch copper tubing bolted to 
the bottom of the aluminum panel, with several #6 screws through it 
functioning as grounds, with stacks of ring terminals screwed through it.

I'm running a Compufire ignition and regular suppression plugs...exactly 
what was on it before I rewired it, with the exception of the radio, 
which is now also an ICOM A200, as opposed to a home-assembled RST 
nav/com that came with it.  I suppose that could be the difference, so 
maybe I'm talking apples and oranges above.

N56ML has a John Deere dynamo and Kettering/electronic ignition, and 
with the A200 I can barely pick up a slight whine at low RPM (and little 
air noise) on the ground, but at speed, it is not noticeable at all.

-- 

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com

KR> Radio call type designator

[Matt Reed]

The KR1 and KR2 have pre-filled performance data templates, at least as far as 
in the Centers goes. So, when calling for flight following, you can identify as 
either "experimental KR1/KR2" or straight "experimental." If the controller 
asks for specific type, you can respond with the KR1/KR2 and the system will 
accept it. The system will use template speeds (130 KTAS for the KR1 and KR2) 
and climb/descent rates (1000 FPM for KR1 and KR2) for conflict alert 
processing. If these vary significantly (+/- 5% or 10 kts, whichever is 
greater), advise ATC of your actual value. The system does not discriminate 
between a KR2 and KR-2S, so the type call for both has to be "KR2." None of 
that is required, of course, as "experimental" will suffice, as Mr. Flesner 
pointed out. But it helps the controller out when issuing traffic calls to know 
the type of aircraft involved. Or, in cases like me, satisfies pure curiosity :)
Also, as I'm sure most of you know, VFR flight plan information does not 
transfer to ATC facilities; it is strictly a function of Flight Service. So, if 
you do file a VFR plan (as I hope you all do anyway), understand that the 
controllers will not know what you do (be nice!), such as what your filed TAS 
and route is. For example, if you're flying from Aberdeen SD to Rapid City SD, 
the controller will enter it as a direct flight, even though you may have filed 
on the VFR plan to go over Pierre instead of direct. In a case like that, I'd 
suggest that after getting radar identified, tell the controller what your 
route plan is if it's anything besides direct.

Thanks for listening and safe flying!

-Matt ReedKR-2S, 75%Long EZ, 10%I just need one more project, then 
I can say I have 100% of an airplane...


> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:12:37 -0500
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Radio call type designator
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> At 08:50 AM 6/26/2014, you wrote:
> >Maybe a silly question but what do you use as a type designator when 
> >calling ATC in your KR2?  Experimental? KR?
> >
> 
> from the Airman's information 
> manual:   https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim/aim0402.html
> 
> 3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or 
> manufacturer's name, followed by the digits/letters of the 
> registration number. When the aircraft manufacturer's name or model 
> is stated, the prefix "N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha.
> 
> EXAMPLE-
> 1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
> 
> 2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit "Experimental" after 
> initial contact).
> 
> 
> Personally, I start the call with  "experimental" rather than end with same:
> 
> Example:  Marion tower - experimental KR- 211LF-
> 
> Any additional communications simply ends with -  1LF
> 
> Granted,, not one in 50 controllers will know what a KR is but I gave 
> them the required information.  If they have questions, they can 
> ask.   At my home field where they know "what or who" I am, I often 
> omit the "KR" in the initial call.  Example " Marion ground - 
> Experimental 211LF".  After their reply it's "1LF - Midwest hangar - 
> taxi - VFR - northwest departure".  Short and sweet and they have all 
> the info they need.  If I want a runway other than what I know they 
> will assign, I include that request in the second 
> contact.  Example:  " "1LF - Midwest hangar - taxi - VFR - request 
> runway 2 at Bravo for a northwest departure".
> 
> Know what you're going to say before you key the mike.  Just tell 
> them who you are, where you are, and what you want or what your 
> intentions are.  Keep it simple.
> 
> Larry Flesner 
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KR> Radio call type designator

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KR> Radio call type designator

[joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com]

ToddExperimental 357Charlie Joilett. That gives them the information they need 
and they may ask for your speed range so that they can properly work you into 
the other traffic as an experimental  could be from 40 kts to 300 kts.Joe Horton

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KR> Radio call type designator

[Rayner, Todd M.]

Maybe a silly question but what do you use as a type designator when calling 
ATC in your KR2?  Experimental? KR?

Todd

KR> Radio call type designator

[danrh at windstream.net]

So why do we say "Experimental"?  I had understood that they wanted that for 
all experimentals.  I know the RVs at my airport call "Experimental".

Dan

On Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:14 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  wrote: 

=
You'll hear the RV guys call in as "RV 123 Romeo Victor", but that's because 
the 
RVs have become so ubiquitous that the controllers all know the type of 
aircraft, so that tells them a lot about speed and performance to help fit them 
into traffic flow.  Unfortunately, KRs are so rare that most controllers have 
no 
idea what they are, so calling in as "KR 1213 Whiskey" doesn't help them.  I 
always use "Experimental 1213 Whiskey" for the KR.  They usually refer to me as 
either a GlassAir or an RV.  When they ask aircraft type, most aren't familiar 
with the KRs. 

For my home built SuperCub, I always use "SuperCub 143 Whiskey" as that tells 
the controllers everything they need to know about my performance in traffic; 
s...l...o...w.  I tried using "Experimental SuperCub", but the controllers 
invariably shortened it to "SuperCub".  Being experimental doesn't really 
pertain to the performance, so doesn't tell ATC anything they care to know. 

-Jeff Scott 
Los Alamos,NM 


> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 at 7:50 AM 
> From: "Rayner, Todd M. via KRnet"  
> 
> Maybe a silly question but what do you use as a type designator when calling 
ATC in your KR2?  Experimental? KR? 
> 
> Todd 

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KR> Radio call type designator

[Dave McCauley]

Typically I hear "experimental one two three kilo bravo" or something like
that.

Dave McCauley

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Rayner, Todd
M. via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:51 AM
To: KRnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: KR> Radio call type designator

Maybe a silly question but what do you use as a type designator when calling
ATC in your KR2?  Experimental? KR?

Todd
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KR> Radio for sale

[Eric James Pitts]

I have a NEW in the box,?never used Icom A-200? panel mount radio for sale with 
wiring harness and install sleeve. Asking 700.00 that will include free 
shipping to the lower 48. Contact off net at eric.pitts at frontier.com 


Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Ind.

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in 
sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and 
screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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KR> Radio

[PatS]

AS so many have said before, this is the best place to get information.  Thanks 
to all who responded.
IHS
PatS
Seminary, MS

KR> Radio

[laser...@juno.com]

I second or third those who have suggested the SP400.  I've got two very
good ICOM handhelds already and have been putting off buying the SP400
since it just seems extravagant.  That ILS is a wonderful feature however
and the writing is on the wall . . . just a matter of time and impulse.  

Mike
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KR>Radio

[keni...@aol.com]

I've got one of Sporty's handhelds that I've had for about 10 years and I'm 
 quite happy with it. I flew MU-2's in the middle of the night for several 
years  and always had it in my flight bag. I've never really had to use  it 
, but it's always work for me. I understand if you're going to use it in the 
 plane much an external antenna really helps.
Dennis

KR> Radio

[Craig Williams]

Here's what I am going with

Sportys SP400
http://sportys.com/sp400

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com



--- On Wed, 4/6/11, PatS <psh...@bayspringstel.net> wrote:

> From: PatS <psh...@bayspringstel.net>
> Subject: KR> Radio
> To: "Corvair Forum" <corvaircr...@mylist.net>, "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 1:38 AM
> Guys;  I am to the point of
> thinking seriously about buying a hand held radio. 
> What are the recommendations of the community?  Are
> there any one in particular that is the top buy? 
> Thanks for your help.
> IHS
> PatS
> Seminary, MS
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KR> Radio

[PatS]

Guys;  I am to the point of thinking seriously about buying a hand held radio.  
What are the recommendations of the community?  Are there any one in particular 
that is the top buy?  Thanks for your help.
IHS
PatS
Seminary, MS

KR> Radio Check (ignore)

[phillip matheson]

John 5 by 5


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch 37
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/
- Original Message - 
From: "John Bouyea" <jb2in...@coho.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:51 AM
Subject: KR> Radio Check (ignore)


Test, test, 1 - 2 - 3, 3 - 2 - 1

John Bouyea 


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KR> Radio Check (ignore)

[John Bouyea]

Test, test, 1 - 2 - 3, 3 - 2 - 1

John Bouyea 

KR> Radio

[Barry Kruyssen]

The Microair has very small knobs and is fiddley to change in flight.
I prefer the xcom760, it has dual watch, built in intercom plus many more
features. 
See http://www.xcom760.com/comparison/comparison.html 


Regards

Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com 
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia
Regards


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Robin Macdonald
Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2009 6:49 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Radio

Hi guys,

Slowly getting on with my KR, at present doing wings & tanks. 

I am looking at radio's our $ is high so thought it might be a good time to
buy. 

I have been looking at the "Microair Model M760" & now someone has suggested
the "Flightline FL760",  has anyone any thoughts or had experience with this
unit.

Many thanks 

Robin 

N.Z.

70% done 95% to go 
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KR> Radio

[Robin Macdonald]

Hi guys,

Slowly getting on with my KR, at present doing wings & tanks. 

I am looking at radio's our $ is high so thought it might be a good time to 
buy. 

I have been looking at the "Microair Model M760" & now someone has suggested 
the "Flightline FL760",  has anyone any thoughts or had experience with this 
unit.

Many thanks 

Robin 

N.Z.

70% done 95% to go 

KR> Radio calls

[Ray Goree]

   Larry,
   Thanks for the info. I hope to be using it later this year.

 Ray
  Arlington, Tx.




>From the Airman Information Manual:

3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or 
manufacturer's name,
followed by the digits/letters of the registration number. When the aircraft
manufacturer's name or model is stated, the prefix "N" is dropped; e.g.,
Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha


My radio call goes something like this.

Marion tower,  "Experimental KR 211LF, Aeroflite hanger, taxi clearance,
local VFR."  This gives them all the information they need.  If I want to
use a crosswind runway instead of taxiing for a mile to the runway I know
he will give me, I include that in the initial contact.

"Marion tower, Experimental KR 211LF, Aeroflite hanger, taxi clearance,
local VFR, request runway 29 for departure".

I constantly see pilots blindly following instructions and taxiing the full
length of an 8000 foot runway for takeoff when the wind is 5K's when
they could have taxied 150 feet off the ramp to an intersection on a
crosswind runway with 4000 feet available for takeoff.  Remember,
you're the PIC, ask and you will generally be given.  Just make your
request know in the initial contact so the controller doesn't have to
repeat a totally new set of corrected instructions.

If you have a control tower in your area, go for a visit.  It's a great
learning experience.

Larry Flesner
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KR> Radio calls

[Larry Flesner]

>
>
>"Marion tower, Experimental KR 211LF, Aeroflite hanger, taxi clearance,
>local VFR, request runway 29 for departure".
>Larry Flesner


One brief addition:

If I'm leaving the airport area, I include my intended direction of departure
so they can assess possible traffic conflicts.

"Marion ground",  ( they know who I'm talking to and that I'm on the 
right frequency)

"experimental KR 211LF"  (they know type of aircraft and N number)

"Aeroflite hangar"  (they know where I'm at on the field)

"taxi clearance"( they know what I want)

"VFR departure, southwest"  (they know my operation rules and 
departure direction)

If I want the runway everyone else is using that's the end of the 
radio call.  If I want
a different runway I add the following:

"request runway 11, intersection C for departure"  (they know I want 
a runway other
then the runway in use and can assess traffic conflicts)

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio calls

[Larry Flesner]

At 10:31 AM 1/13/2009, you wrote:
>Heres a simple question I cant quite figure out. My Tail number is
>N1333A. How would I make a call to, lets say, Gulfport FSS.
>Glenn Martin
+++

 From the Airman Information Manual:

3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or 
manufacturer's name,
followed by the digits/letters of the registration number. When the aircraft
manufacturer's name or model is stated, the prefix "N" is dropped; e.g.,
Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha


My radio call goes something like this.

Marion tower,  "Experimental KR 211LF, Aeroflite hanger, taxi clearance,
local VFR."   This gives them all the information they need.  If I want to
use a crosswind runway instead of taxiing for a mile to the runway I know
he will give me, I include that in the initial contact.

"Marion tower, Experimental KR 211LF, Aeroflite hanger, taxi clearance,
local VFR, request runway 29 for departure".

I constantly see pilots blindly following instructions and taxiing the full
length of an 8000 foot runway for takeoff when the wind is 5K's when
they could have taxied 150 feet off the ramp to an intersection on a
crosswind runway with 4000 feet available for takeoff.  Remember,
you're the PIC, ask and you will generally be given.  Just make your
request know in the initial contact so the controller doesn't have to
repeat a totally new set of corrected instructions.

If you have a control tower in your area, go for a visit.  It's a great
learning experience.

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio calls

[M]

If your getting that deer in the headlights thing just give them Mark Jones 
tail number. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Teate, Stephen 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:19 PM
  Subject: RE: KR> Radio calls


  I couldn't have been the only one that got a chuckle out of the "deer in the 
headlights" comment.

  Stephen Teate
  Paradise, Texas

  -Original Message-
  From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
Larry H.
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:58 PM
  To: KRnet
  Subject: Re: KR> Radio calls

  I know Marks !! pick one we have two of them !! : )





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KR> Radio calls

[Steven Eberhart]

rahu...@peoplepc.com wrote:
> I have heard some calls from the RV guys substituting RV for Experimental - 
> maybe they have become as numerous as Cessna's they feel they aren't 
> "Experimental" any longer.
>   
Actually, it is the FAA that feels that there are enough RVs  to include 
RV as an official designator.  If you hear "RV one four Sierra Echo" any 
time it will be me.

Steve Eberhart
RV one four Sierra Echo

KR> Radio calls

[Teate, Stephen]

I couldn't have been the only one that got a chuckle out of the "deer in the 
headlights" comment.

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
Larry H.
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:58 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Radio calls

I know Marks !! pick one we have two of them !!  : )

KR> Radio calls

[Larry H.]

I know Marks !! pick one we have two of them !!  : )





From: Glenn Martin rep...@martekmississippi.com


Your ABSOLUTELY right Larry! BTW..What's YOUR tail number :-)



Larry H. wrote:
> Since you are a new pilot, better give someone elses tail Numbers !!  LOL
> Larry H.
>

KR> Radio calls

[Glenn Martin]

Your ABSOLUTELY right Larry! BTW..What's YOUR tail number :-)



Larry H. wrote:
> Since you are a new pilot, better give someone elses tail Numbers !!  LOL
> Larry H.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Glenn Martin <rep...@martekmississippi.com>
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:31:16 AM
> Subject: KR> Radio calls
>
> Heres a simple question I cant quite figure out. My Tail number is ou
> N1333A. How would I make a call to, lets say, Gulfport FSS. Would it be 
> "Gulfport Radio, KR 1333Alpha" or "KR2 1333Alpha" (which would seem to 
> run the numbers together) or "Rand 1333Alpha" ? How do you make the call 
> correctly with my tail number?
>
> BTW. I have finally started flight training. I had no idea how many 
> mistakes I could make all in one sitting..until now! Did anybody else 
> get that "Dear in the Headlights" feeling their first time up?
>
>
> Glenn Martin
> KR2 N1333A
> Biloxi, MS
>
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KR> Radio calls

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Glenn Martin wrote:
> Heres a simple question I cant quite figure out. My Tail number is 
> N1333A. How would I make a call to, lets say, Gulfport FSS. Would it be 
> "Gulfport Radio, KR 1333Alpha" or "KR2 1333Alpha" (which would seem to 
> run the numbers together) or "Rand 1333Alpha" ? How do you make the call 
> correctly with my tail number?
>   
How about Experimental 1333Alpha
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KR> Radio calls

[Larry H.]

Since you are a new pilot, better give someone elses tail Numbers !!  LOL
Larry H.





From: Glenn Martin <rep...@martekmississippi.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:31:16 AM
Subject: KR> Radio calls

Heres a simple question I cant quite figure out. My Tail number is ou
N1333A. How would I make a call to, lets say, Gulfport FSS. Would it be 
"Gulfport Radio, KR 1333Alpha" or "KR2 1333Alpha" (which would seem to 
run the numbers together) or "Rand 1333Alpha" ? How do you make the call 
correctly with my tail number?

    BTW. I have finally started flight training. I had no idea how many 
mistakes I could make all in one sitting..until now! Did anybody else 
get that "Dear in the Headlights" feeling their first time up?


Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi, MS

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KR> Radio calls

[kelkens...@aol.com]

You do not even mention KR, the call is Experimental  N133A.  

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KR> Radio calls

[Scott Watts]

I have a friend with a Piper Comanche with a similar call sign and
using his nomenclature he would say Experimental One Triple Tree
Alpha.  All the controllers would respond in kind so I assume it is
OK.  Easier to say than Tree Tree Tree.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Fred Johnson  wrote:
> Glenn, I remember my very first lesson very well. the instructor scared the
> bajeezers out of me. we were on our way back to the airport and about 3000'
> too high with about a 15knot wind. As we got closer he kept telling me what
> to do but apparently I wasn't doing them correctly, and instead of showing
> me how to do it, he yanked the yoke from me and slammed us on the ground,
> all the while never uttering a word to me. needless to say, I never went
> back to him. four years in the US Air Force flying around in the back of
> C130's and HH3's and never once experienced a flight that SCARED me.
>
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV
>
>
>
>BTW. I have finally started flight training. I had no idea how many
> mistakes I could make all in one sitting..until now! Did anybody else
> get that "Dear in the Headlights" feeling their first time up?
>
>
> Glenn Martin
>
>
>
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KR> Radio calls

[Fred Johnson]

Glenn, I remember my very first lesson very well. the instructor scared the
bajeezers out of me. we were on our way back to the airport and about 3000'
too high with about a 15knot wind. As we got closer he kept telling me what
to do but apparently I wasn't doing them correctly, and instead of showing
me how to do it, he yanked the yoke from me and slammed us on the ground,
all the while never uttering a word to me. needless to say, I never went
back to him. four years in the US Air Force flying around in the back of
C130's and HH3's and never once experienced a flight that SCARED me.

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV



BTW. I have finally started flight training. I had no idea how many 
mistakes I could make all in one sitting..until now! Did anybody else 
get that "Dear in the Headlights" feeling their first time up?


Glenn Martin

KR> Radio calls

[rahu...@peoplepc.com]

Glenn wrote: "Did anybody else get that "Dear in the Headlights" feeling 
their first time up?"

Of course - If you didn't feel that way - you would not need the training - 
relax enjoy the experience and the learning!

Glenn wrote: "How do you make the call correctly with my tail number?"

The proper way would be Gulfport Radio, Experimental 1333Alpha. After which 
they may reply with a request for Type - then you would reply KR-2.

I have heard some calls from the RV guys substituting RV for Experimental - 
maybe they have become as numerous as Cessna's they feel they aren't 
"Experimental" any longer.

Rick Human
N202RH
Houston, Texas 

KR> Radio calls

[Tony Wright]

Glenn,

An easy way to do it is call, "Experimental one three three three alpha"

Tony Wright

KR> Radio calls

[Dj Merrill]

Glenn Martin wrote:
> "Gulfport Radio, KR 1333Alpha" or "KR2 1333Alpha" (which would seem to 
> run the numbers together) or "Rand 1333Alpha" ? How do you make the call 
> correctly with my tail number?
>   

I'd use "Experimental 1333Alpha".  If they what kind, I'd respond
with "KR2".

-Dj

-- 
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJKR-2 Builder N770DJ
http://deej.net/sportsman/http://deej.net/kr-2/

"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an 
airplane."  --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005

KR> Radio calls

[Glenn Martin]

Heres a simple question I cant quite figure out. My Tail number is 
N1333A. How would I make a call to, lets say, Gulfport FSS. Would it be 
"Gulfport Radio, KR 1333Alpha" or "KR2 1333Alpha" (which would seem to 
run the numbers together) or "Rand 1333Alpha" ? How do you make the call 
correctly with my tail number?

BTW. I have finally started flight training. I had no idea how many 
mistakes I could make all in one sitting..until now! Did anybody else 
get that "Dear in the Headlights" feeling their first time up?


Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi, MS

KR> Radio Problem

[Glenn Martin]

Just for information on why this is working

  1: Ferrite cores: Ferrite cores with the power line looped through them 
increase the inductance along ther individual power lines, which blocks aUdio 
frecuency noise, impulse noise and RF from traveling down the power line along 
with the DC. Ferrite cores should be placed lberally on power lines in the KR. 
They are cheap nose reduction, with almost no weight penalty  to concern 
yourself with. 

  2: Malfunctioning fuel pump (or any other electric motor): When an electric 
motor malfuncions in the sense that it is slowed or stopped (ie: "LOADED") but 
still ELECTRICLY functioning, it will draw more current than normal as it 
attempts to TRY to come up to its operating  speed (starting current draw). 
This continuous excessive current loads down your electrical system, causing 
thre alternator to generate more noise. The electric motor of the pump itself 
will also generate noise which is transferred back along the power line AS WELL 
AS Radio Frequency noise which is radiated through the air (which can interfere 
with other aircraft flying in formation with you). Ensuring that your electical 
motors are all functioning well and up to capacity, and that the power 
connections are clean and secure will reduce this substantially.

  Congrats on your improved power system Dan. It's always the little things 
that cause so much trouble and are such a pleasent relief when they are 
addressed.

  Glenn Martin
  N1333A KR2
  Biloxi, MS

KR> Radio Problem

[Glenn Martin]

Just for information on why this is working

  1: Ferrite cores: Ferrite cores with the power line looped through them 
increase the inductance along ther individual power lines, which blocks adio 
frecuency noise, impulse noise and RF from traveling down the power line along 
with the DC. Ferrite cores should be placed lberally on power lines in the KR. 
They are cheap nose reduction, with almost no weight penalty  to concern 
yourself with. 

  2: Malfunctioning fuel pump (or any other electric motor): When an electric 
motor malfuncions in the sense that it is slowed or stopped (ie: "LOADED") but 
still ELECTRICLY functioning, it will draw more current than normal as it 
attempts to TRY to come up to its operating  speed (starting current draw). 
This continuous excessive current loads down your electrical system, causing 
thre alternator to generate more noise. The electric motor of the pump itself 
will also generate noise which is transferred back along the power line AS WELL 
AS Radio Frequency noise which is radiated through the air (which can interfere 
with other aircraft flying in formation with you). Ensuring that your electical 
motors are all functioning well and up to capacity, and that the power 
connections are clean and secure will reduce this substantially.

  Congrats on your improved power system Dan. Its always the little things that 
cause so much trouble and are such a pleasent relief when they are addressed.

  Glenn Martin
  N1333A KR2
  Biloxi, MS

KR> Radio Problem

[Dan Heath]

Yesterday, I flew again for the first time since the Gathering.  I have been
repairing the wiring to my fuel pumps, and found a loose wire to my fuel
gauge, which I repaired.  I replaced them with soldered connections covered
with heat shrink.   I also put ferrite cores, I think that is the term used
for them, on the power leads to my radio.

The good news, is that my radio problem is totally solved.  I really think
that it was caused by the bad butt connection on the fuel pumps because
after the one pump totally quite working, the radio became almost useless
for reception. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Radio noise------TKM MX 11

[kenneth l wiltrout]

My TKM MX11 has dramatic noise that I hear through the headset when
transmitting on the lower end ie:118.20 etc. At the upper end it's very
quiet. Any of you electronics wiz's have any suggestions? Is it a squelch
thing?

Kenny Wiltrout
Kutztown, Pa

KR> Radio noise------TKM MX 11

[Larry Flesner]

>
>My TKM MX11 has dramatic noise that I hear through the headset when
>transmitting on the lower end ie:118.20 etc. At the upper end it's very
>quiet. Any of you electronics wiz's have any suggestions? Is it a squelch
>thing?
>Kenny Wiltrout
++

I'm not the wiz you're looking for but I think that's the very same
radio I put in the Tripacer.  GREAT plug and play unit.  It was
a direct replacement for what I had before.

I doubt if it's a squelch problem.  That should affect receive only.
As I recall it had a squelch adjustment on the front panel.  You
tune the radio to a "non-used" frequency and adjust the squelch
to eliminate any noise on the output.  Presto, it's set.

I'm GUESSING you have a wiring problem.  Antenna lead too close
to the intercom, poor ground, or something along those lines.
Are you nav and comm antennas too close or the wiring crossing
or crossed?  I had great service for hundreds of hours from mine.
Don't give up on the unit.

I also recall it having a "test" button on the front panel.  If you are
slightly out of range from an AWOS or are getting a broken signal
from some other transmitter, just hit the "test" button and it
overrides the squelch so you can hear a weak signal.

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio

[Larry Flesner]

At 05:34 PM 3/26/2007, you wrote:
> > I bought one of the Sporty's with Com and Nav, frequency 
> scanning, etc. for
> > $279.


I bought a JRC from AS for $249 and I think it is a much better radio
than the Sporty's .  When used with an external antenna, you can't tell
it for a panel mounted radio.  It is also a nav / com.  Opt for the "power
module" to connect it to aircraft power and you have a giant in a small
box.  Lots of good features.

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio...

[pe...@heroic.co.uk]

> Spend the extra money and get the Icom IC-A23.  You will be much
> happier.  I have used mine in the KR all over the USA and never have had
> any problems.  They have great customer service as well if you do have
> any issues.  They are very helpful with phone support as well.
>
> Before I bought my 23 and 23 sport, I asked the guys at will call at the
> Calif. Spruce what their experience had been.  I was told the others are
> returned quite a bit more often than the Icom.  Just my .02.
>

The Icom radio performs really well as a radio, but what a pest to drive,
I hate the fiddly key sequences to try and programme in a frequency, or
even to manually set the frequency. When things go pear-shaped, fiddling
with the Icom is not fun !

On the Icom web site, it says that there is a PC link for the programming
the radio. All their scanners are computer tunable, and some of the older
high-end transceivers can also be computer drivable, which makes sense. So
I figured that they must test the radio via this computer interface -
which uses the tip, ring and sleeve of the audio jack as a low speed
RS232.

I thought it would be really cool to be able to integrate the radio with
the laptop based GPS, just click on the map, and bingo the radio gets
tuned.

So I contacted Icom to get the info on how to do it and they deny that the
feature exists.

Drat, drat, drat

KR> Radio...

[Steve Glover]

The Icom radio performs really well as a radio, but what a pest to
drive, I hate the fiddly key sequences to try and programme in a
frequency, or even to manually set the frequency. When things go
pear-shaped, fiddling with the Icom is not fun !

END>>>

I have programmed manually, but I have the software for programming on
the PC. It is a simple task to just type in the freq you want. I use one
bank for local flying, one for a regular route I fly up north, and then
when I am planning a trip like the Gathering, I use one of the other 10
banks of 20 freq's and program in the frequencies along my intended
route.  That way, as I am flying I can just have the freq change knob
function selected and it just takes one click to get to my next
frequency enrooted. If I do need to enter a manual freq then I hit the
"Clear" button and the radio goes into manual mode. I can then just
enter the freq desired on the key pad.  When I am ready to go back to
the memory channels, it only takes two buttons and 1/2 a second and I am
back on the bank freq's. 

Maybe at the next Gathering, some of the attending pilots can
demonstrate their comm's to new or prospective builders so they can have
a first hand experience with some of the different types available.

Regards,

Steve Glover
Long-EZ N2121U
(Former KR-2 N902G)
AJO, Ca

KR> Radio...

[Pete Diffey]

Don't get me wrong, I think Icom radios are, by 1995 standards, good kit.

I have all the local freqencies that I am likely to want programmed in, 
and yes doing it on the ground either by hand, as I currently do, or 
from a computer is easy. But why in 2007 do they have a user interface 
from 1986..

I want a radio that can hold every frequency in the world along with 
it's ICAO identifier and it's human readable name all programmed in and 
accessible via an I-Pod type type single finger selector. There are only 
tens of thousands of radios and navaids, so all that data would fit into 
8 MBytes of memory.

When someone comes up with a radio with that sort of user interface, 
then finally aviation radio will have entered the 21st century.

That's what bitches me off with ALL the current crop of aviation radios 
- in fact whilst I am on a rant, it is true of pretty well every piece 
of aviation electronics, including Garmin GPS sets and current crop of 
glass screen cockpits, they are all so difficult to use, the new Cessna 
glass screen C172 requires 5 hour familiarization training - someone has 
seriously missed the point, these things are supposed to make things easier.

I feel better for that ;-)

Pete

> I have programmed manually, but I have the software for programming on
> the PC. It is a simple task to just type in the freq you want. I use one
> bank for local flying, one for a regular route I fly up north, and then
> when I am planning a trip like the Gathering, I use one of the other 10
>   

KR> Radio...

[Pete Diffey]

Hi Bill,

I guess Vertex spent a lot of time developing their antenna. It's 
probably unreasonable to expect to improve on an antenna design done by 
the RF expert who designed the radio.

If you feel the need to remote mount the antenna, probably the best way 
to do it is to get a pair of appropriate connectors from Radio Shack or 
wherever - what are they BNC ? - and 10 feet of 50 ohm coax, make up an 
extension cable, then use the Vertex antenna on the end of your 
extension cable. Forget ground planes and all the hocus pocus just tape 
the antenna somewhere back behind the seats and try that out. If it 
works, neaten it up, if not well total expense 10 bucks...

Pete

william Clapp wrote:
> Just got back from a flight to a neighboring airport where 100LL is cheaper 
> and giving the folks a couple low passes.  Am trying out my new Vertex 
> handheld.  It works real well with my intercom and I can transmit about 60 
> miles out.  The only problem I have, and I had it with another handheld, is 
> that I cannot squelch out the static.  If I use the whip antenna it silences 
> the static no problem.  But when using the aircraft antenna, it wont silnce 
> with the squelch.  SO I know it is an antenna problem.  I made the standard 
> copper tape antenna but forgot to us the teroids (?)   Is there a fix for 
> this problem? 
>
>   

KR> Radio...

[Brian Kraut]

I have to disagree with you.  The rubber duck antennas on the handhelds are
very low gain antennas and will give you maybe a ten mile range where a good
fixed mount antenna will give you 50 miles.  The engineers are good, but it
is simply not possible to make a quarter wave antenna with some gain at the
frequencies we use and keep it short.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
Pete Diffey
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:56 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Radio...


Hi Bill,

I guess Vertex spent a lot of time developing their antenna. It's
probably unreasonable to expect to improve on an antenna design done by
the RF expert who designed the radio.

If you feel the need to remote mount the antenna, probably the best way
to do it is to get a pair of appropriate connectors from Radio Shack or
wherever - what are they BNC ? - and 10 feet of 50 ohm coax, make up an
extension cable, then use the Vertex antenna on the end of your
extension cable. Forget ground planes and all the hocus pocus just tape
the antenna somewhere back behind the seats and try that out. If it
works, neaten it up, if not well total expense 10 bucks...

Pete

william Clapp wrote:
> Just got back from a flight to a neighboring airport where 100LL is
cheaper and giving the folks a couple low passes.  Am trying out my new
Vertex handheld.  It works real well with my intercom and I can transmit
about 60 miles out.  The only problem I have, and I had it with another
handheld, is that I cannot squelch out the static.  If I use the whip
antenna it silences the static no problem.  But when using the aircraft
antenna, it wont silnce with the squelch.  SO I know it is an antenna
problem.  I made the standard copper tape antenna but forgot to us the
teroids (?)   Is there a fix for this problem?
>
>

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KR> Radio...Microair 720

[Dan Heath]

Phil,

By "fiddly", do you mean difficult to use?  I am thinking about getting an
XCom, but it is basically the same.  I like it better, because it has a
built in intercom., which I may never use, it I don't get these hours flown
off, so I can carry passengers.  I can't understand why they don't offer the
same radio in a 3 1/8 user interface, to make it easier to use and to read
the screen.  I have asked them, but no reply. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
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---Original Message---

Have a look at the Micoair 720.
Fits in 2 1/2 inch hole. is fiddly but use 

KR> Radio...Microair 720

[Phil Matheson]

I have one in my KR. I have used it only to test.
A few guys ( older Guys) say it is difficult to use because the knobs are
small and the squelch and volume knob are one. The first one is the volume
and the one behind is the squelch.

There is a page somewhere on their web that had the full operation
instruction you can down load for a look

Found it. Have a read

http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760N2installusermanual01R11.pdf


Phil Matheson
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mathes...@dodo.com.au
0358833588
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KR> Radio...

[william Clapp]

Just got back from a flight to a neighboring airport where 100LL is cheaper and 
giving the folks a couple low passes.  Am trying out my new Vertex handheld.  
It works real well with my intercom and I can transmit about 60 miles out.  The 
only problem I have, and I had it with another handheld, is that I cannot 
squelch out the static.  If I use the whip antenna it silences the static no 
problem.  But when using the aircraft antenna, it wont silnce with the squelch. 
 SO I know it is an antenna problem.  I made the standard copper tape antenna 
but forgot to us the teroids (?)   Is there a fix for this problem? 

  Still having fun..Bill


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KR> Radio...

[Ken Linder]

Bill,

I am also looking at Vertex radio equipment.  I have used Yaesu (Vertex) ham 
radios for a while now & pretty much like them.  One thing you may want to 
do, is wrap the feedline into a coil.  Start with 5 or 10 turns & see how 
that works.  If not, maybe try 20.  The coil should have a diameter of about 
2 inches, but probably not more than 2.5 inches.  Keep the coil as close to 
the antenna as possible.

Another possibility is that your coax may be old.  Old coax can do funny 
things with a signal. Maybe try replacing it.  Since you are transmitting 
fine, it doesn't sound like a short.

You could also try to wrap the coax in a torrid core.

I have some more ideas.  Let me know how that works out, OK?  Good luck.

Ken
KC7RAD (ham radio)

- Original Message - 
From: "william Clapp" <ifly...@yahoo.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: KR> Radio...


> Just got back from a flight to a neighboring airport where 100LL is 
> cheaper and giving the folks a couple low passes.  Am trying out my new 
> Vertex handheld.  It works real well with my intercom and I can transmit 
> about 60 miles out.  The only problem I have, and I had it with another 
> handheld, is that I cannot squelch out the static.  If I use the whip 
> antenna it silences the static no problem.  But when using the aircraft 
> antenna, it wont silnce with the squelch.  SO I know it is an antenna 
> problem.  I made the standard copper tape antenna but forgot to us the 
> teroids (?)   Is there a fix for this problem?
>
>  Still having fun..Bill
>
>
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KR> Radio...

[Steve Glover]

Spend the extra money and get the Icom IC-A23.  You will be much
happier.  I have used mine in the KR all over the USA and never have had
any problems.  They have great customer service as well if you do have
any issues.  They are very helpful with phone support as well.

Before I bought my 23 and 23 sport, I asked the guys at will call at the
Calif. Spruce what their experience had been.  I was told the others are
returned quite a bit more often than the Icom.  Just my .02.

Regards,

Steve Glover
Long-EZ N2121U
(Former KR-2 N902G)
AJO, Ca


-Original Message-
Bill,

I am also looking at Vertex radio equipment.  I have used Yaesu (Vertex)
ham 
radios for a while now & pretty much like them.  O
- Original Message - 

KR> Radio suggestions?

[Terry Teer]

Will be changing my instrument panel this winter and would like to install a 
panel mount transceiver.  Clearance behind the panel is about 10" max.  Would 
like to install Icom 200 but too deep.  Have entertained the idea of Microair 
panel mount.  Has anyone used or experience this unit?

Regards,
Terry
Ackerman, MS
KR-2

KR> Radio suggestions?

[Terry Teer]

Will be changing my instrument panel this winter and would like to install a 
panel mount transceiver.  Clearance behind the panel is about 10" max.  Would 
like to install Icom 200 but too deep.  Have entertained the idea of Microair 
panel mount.  Has anyone used or experience this unit?

Regards,
Terry
Ackerman, MS
KR-2

KR> Radio suggestions?

[larry severson]

>Have entertained the idea of Microair panel mount.  Has anyone used 
>or experience this unit?

I have the Microair 760 radio. Signals come in loud and clear. Of 
course, the antenna needs to be good.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com 

KR> Radio suggestions?

[Larry Flesner]

At 11:35 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
>Will be changing my instrument panel this winter and would like to 
>install a panel mount transceiver.  Clearance behind the panel is 
>about 10" max.  Would like to install Icom 200 but too deep.  Have 
>entertained the idea of Microair panel mount.  Has anyone used or 
>experience this unit?
>Terry Ackerman, MS
+

If you want to save some $, check out my radio installation at:

http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929271.jpg

It is a JRC nav/com with all the goodies like memory channels,
flip flop standby channel, etc.  I ran out of room on my panel so
I mounted it on a modified yoke mount as used for clip boards,et.
It has a thumb screw adjust for position and I can even move it
up to nearly behind the panel.  I normally leave it in the position
you see in the above photo as it seems never to be in the way
on entry or exit.  It is connected to an external antenna and the
intercom is located behind the seats to keep the headset wires
out of the way.  Since that picture was taken the rechargeable
battery pack failed.  I cut it off leaving the part that attaches to the
radio and approx an additional 1/2 inch.  I hardwired it so I could
connect to aircraft power using a quick disconnect and then poured
it full of epoxy.  It is now about  4 inches shorter than the picture
indicates.  I works GREAT.  I can easily communicate with aircraft
at 50 miles or more distance.  The best part is it cost about $250  !!

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio suggestions?

[Barry Kruyssen]

Xcom 760 radio, in my opinion, the best value for money in a radio, dual watch, 
input for music, built in intercom, plus heaps more features, available from 
http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760

I've talked to other aircraft over 300 km away as if they were in the patern 
with me, I was at 2000ft in the circuit and the other aircraft was climbing 
through 3500 ft.

I have no financial interest in XCom, pitty :-)

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873 

k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm 




  - Original Message - 
  From: Terry Teer 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:35 AM
  Subject: KR> Radio suggestions?


  Will be changing my instrument panel this winter and would like to install a 
panel mount transceiver.  Clearance behind the panel is about 10" max.  Would 
like to install Icom 200 but too deep.  Have entertained the idea of Microair 
panel mount.  Has anyone used or experience this unit?

  Regards,
  Terry
  Ackerman, MS
  KR-2
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KR> Radio suggestions?

[Barry Kruyssen]

I have used the microair alot and found the changing of frequencies cumbersome 
with the small knobs, else they are a basic radio and work as advertised. Thus 
I bought the XCom. :-)
Both are locally made in Australia.

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Terry Teer 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:35 AM
  Subject: KR> Radio suggestions?


  Will be changing my instrument panel this winter and would like to install a 
panel mount transceiver.  Clearance behind the panel is about 10" max.  Would 
like to install Icom 200 but too deep.  Have entertained the idea of Microair 
panel mount.  Has anyone used or experience this unit?

  Regards,
  Terry
  Ackerman, MS
  KR-2

KR>Radio Suggestions

[Allen Wiesner]

Check out Jim Weir's article which appeared in Kitplanes.

http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/Micro760/Micro760.htm

http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/Micro760/KPtext.pdf

As the article mentions, the box is slightly larger than a "standard" 2 1/4" 
instrument hole, and the XMIT Key line voltage has to be below .4V, not the 
"standard" 1.5V (nominal ground, after going thru a couple of diodes in the 
audio switching panel, and wiring and switch contact resistance).

Also, his article in this month's (Dec.) Kitplanes is on the XCOM 760, note 
that there are two prices,
$1200 from a U.S. distributor (i.e. AS) and $1050 direct from the XCOM 
website.

http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/

Also, Barry Kruyssen and/or John Martindale (if either is willing) might be 
able to get either one even cheaper, but then there would be extra for shipping.

Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118
65 Franklin Street
Ansonia, CT  06401-1240

(203) 732-0508

flash...@usadatanet.net

KR>Radio Suggestions

[Barry Kruyssen]

Only to happy to help if I can get a better price.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Allen Wiesner 
  Also, his article in this month's (Dec.) Kitplanes is on the XCOM 760, note 
that there are two prices,
  $1200 from a U.S. distributor (i.e. AS) and $1050 direct from the XCOM 
website.

  http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/

  Also, Barry Kruyssen and/or John Martindale (if either is willing) might be 
able to get either one even cheaper, but then there would be extra for shipping.

  Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118
  65 Franklin Street
  Ansonia, CT  06401-1240

  (203) 732-0508

  flash...@usadatanet.net

KR> Radio suggestions

[Phil Matheson]

The Microair 760 is the smallest dash mount that I know of.
It fits a 2 1/4inch hole. and very light.

http://www.microair.com.au/index.aspx


Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo.com.au
VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
61 3 58833588
Australia.( Down Under)
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KR> Radio suggestions

[Brant Hollensbe]

Another small and light Nav/Com is the digital Garmin SL-30.  It is only
1.3"H X 6.25"W X 11.5"D (including connectors),2.25 lbs.  and has a built in
CDI.

I use a SL-30 in my spam can and heardily reccommend this great little unit.

Brant Hollensbe
DSM

KR> Radio suggestions

[Colin Rainey]

Jeff
After having run the wiring and having to have Brian Kraut bail me out with the 
radio, I would run a good quality Icom or similar handheld, with headset 
adapter, and external antenna unless you are going to have a professional wire 
the tray style radio up. I have an SP200 from Sporty's with a headset adapter 
that I have been using since I began flying N96TA due to in panel radio issues, 
and have done fine. An intercom with 2 to 4 jacks can be had for around $100, 
SP200 for $299, and adapters for less than $50. Run the external cable like 
Mark L. shows on his web page and you are set.  Also my SP200 doubles as a VOR 
receiver, so I can track the airways and non-precision approaches.

ADF is only needed if you plan on using older CDI instruments that require the 
ADF as part of an instrument approach, like our ILS at Sanford. It requires for 
the ADF to be there in the event of a missed approach, to use the NDB for the 
missed procedure.  This is in the event of lost comms because ATC always gives 
you alternate missed instructions anyway.  The FAA is decommissioning most of 
the NDB transmitters due to GPS, and only keeping a few for some remote 
airports that would be negatively effected.  I would also not invest in an RMI 
as they are also disappearing in favor of GPS.  If you have to have an analog 
instrument then invest in an HSI (horizontal situation indicator).  3 
instruments in one, and makes analog navigation a breeze.

A Garmin 296 does not have the more expensive color display, but does have the 
6 pack of instruments in one nice neat package, along with GPS functions.  If 
you plan on night flying, and I do, then you really should have the 
instrumentation for IFR even though you are not flying IFR.

Just some thoughts...


Colin Rainey
brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.

KR> Radio suggestions

[3343V]

Colin Rainey wrote:
> Jeff
> After having run the wiring and having to have Brian Kraut bail me
> out with the radio, I would run a good quality Icom or similar
> handheld, with headset adapter, and external antenna unless you are
> going to have a professional wire the tray style radio up.

That's exactly my plan. I got an Icom A4 for a rediculously good price and 
plan on using it, a handheld GPS, and the typical instruments for bare 
minimum night VFR. I have absolutely zero desire to fly a KR1 in IMC. I 
don't even want to do it in a 182.
-- 
Steve
33...@swbell.net
N3343V- '75 C150M
N205FT- KR1 #6170
He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. 

KR> Radio suggestions

[larry flesner]

>
>That's exactly my plan. I got an Icom A4 for a rediculously good price and 
>plan on using it, a handheld GPS, and the typical instruments for bare 
>minimum night VFR. 
>Steve
_

For those of you looking at handheld radios,  I suggest you check
out the JRC radio.  I purchased one after the used Sporty radio
I had went south.  It's a very nice unit with plent of features ( I got
the nav/com unit) and as I recall I paid about $250.  I have my 
head set pluged in to an intercom,  the intercom to the radio, and
use an external antenna (mounted inside the KR) and you can't
tell the radio transmittions from a panel mount.  

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio suggestions

[Rich Meyer]

Any advice about whether to keep the LORAN now hanging under the panel where
my knees need to go?  I think we'll be re-doing the panel this winter.  We
have no VOR in the panel, since we'll clip a handheld GPS to the panel, will
we ever use the LORAN?
Rich Meyer

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Colin Rainey
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:55 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Radio suggestions


Jeff . . .
ADF is only needed if you plan on using older CDI instruments that require
the ADF as part of an instrument approach, like our ILS at Sanford. It
requires for the ADF to be there in the event of a missed approach, to use
the NDB for the missed procedure.  This is in the event of lost comms
because ATC always gives you alternate missed instructions anyway.  The FAA
is decommissioning most of the NDB transmitters due to GPS, and only keeping
a few for some remote airports that would be negatively effected.  I would
also not invest in an RMI as they are also disappearing in favor of GPS.  If
you have to have an analog instrument then invest in an HSI (horizontal
situation indicator).  3 instruments in one, and makes analog navigation a
breeze.
Just some thoughts...


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KR> Radio suggestions

[3343V]

Rich Meyer wrote:
> Any advice about whether to keep the LORAN now hanging under the
> panel where my knees need to go?  I think we'll be re-doing the panel
> this winter.  We have no VOR in the panel, since we'll clip a
> handheld GPS to the panel, will we ever use the LORAN?

Does the LORAN work? I've never seen one that does, and since GPS has 
completely replaced it no one is bothering to fix them anymore. I'd say 
ditch it.
-- 
Steve
33...@swbell.net
N3343V- '75 C150M
N205FT- KR1 #6170
He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. 

KR> Radio suggestions

[larry flesner]

At 01:04 AM 10/5/05 -0500, you wrote:
>Any advice about whether to keep the LORAN now hanging under the panel where
>my knees need to go?  
>Rich Meyer
+

Rich,

I think your question pretty much answers itself.  Even if you don't
need the knee room, I'd dump the LORAN.  I had a loran in the 
Tripacer and never used it in the 500 hours I put on the plane.
A good handheld GPS and a nice handheld nav / com radio is
really all you need in a KR.  A transponder / encoder would be
nice, or maybe required, depending on where your home base is
or where you want to fly in to.

Larry Flesner

KR> Radio suggestions

[Jeff Scott]

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KR> Radio suggestions

[Rich Meyer]

It worked for the last pilot, he used it (pre-GPS) Indiana - Florida and
back.  I've never used LORAN in my life, just want to know if in a plane
that doesn't have VOR, maybe a (working) LORAN deserves panel space &
weight.  Back-up for when the GPS fails?
Rich

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Of 3343V
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:24 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Radio suggestions


Rich Meyer wrote:
> Any advice about whether to keep the LORAN now hanging under the panel 
> where my knees need to go?  I think we'll be re-doing the panel this 
> winter.  We have no VOR in the panel, since we'll clip a handheld GPS 
> to the panel, will we ever use the LORAN?

Does the LORAN work? I've never seen one that does, and since GPS has 
completely replaced it no one is bothering to fix them anymore. I'd say 
ditch it.
-- 
Steve
33...@swbell.net
N3343V- '75 C150M
N205FT- KR1 #6170
He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. 


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KR> Radio suggestions

[JAMES FERRIS]

I had a tripacer andsoldhalf of it to Jeff Viken so his wife could learn
to fly and he put a LORAN in it and used it to navigate from Yorktown,
Va.  to Barabo Wis. many times it worked very good and you tune in a
radio station 1000 miles away and navigate with it and it would also give
the groung speed, i think it was great.
Sincerely
Jim 

KR> Radio suggestions

[Scott William]

Um.pilotage and dead reckoning?  

Always works for me. Flew central Florida to the
Carolinas and back mucho times with a compass and a
chart. Lots of funyou folks that are awash in
technology need to get back to the basic fun stuff
 :-)  Stick and rudder baby!!


Scott

--- Rich Meyer <cpt...@npcc.net> wrote:

> It worked for the last pilot, he used it (pre-GPS)
> Indiana - Florida and
> back.  I've never used LORAN in my life, just want
> to know if in a plane
> that doesn't have VOR, maybe a (working) LORAN
> deserves panel space &
> weight.  Back-up for when the GPS fails?
> Rich
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of 3343V
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:24 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Radio suggestions
> 
> 
> Rich Meyer wrote:
> > Any advice about whether to keep the LORAN now
> hanging under the panel 
> > where my knees need to go?  I think we'll be
> re-doing the panel this 
> > winter.  We have no VOR in the panel, since we'll
> clip a handheld GPS 
> > to the panel, will we ever use the LORAN?
> 
> Does the LORAN work? I've never seen one that does,
> and since GPS has 
> completely replaced it no one is bothering to fix
> them anymore. I'd say 
> ditch it.
> -- 
> Steve
> 33...@swbell.net
> N3343V- '75 C150M
> N205FT- KR1 #6170
> He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be
> let in. 
> 
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KR> radio noise fixed!

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

I talked to several electrical engineers at work (one of which is also a big
ham radio guy) about the wierd tone that I was getting when I keyed my radio
mic.  All of them frowned when they found out I didn't use shielded cable on
all the lines that the schematic calls for (headphones, mic, push to talk,
vox squelch, vox volume, speaker out), but the ham radio guy said "that'd do
it for sure".  It was about four years ago that I wired up my radio, and I
thought I'd be smart and use a computer cable with a 15pin D shell
connector, so I wouldn't have to bother soldering all those connections.
The whole cable was shielded around the outside, so I thought that would
take care of the shielding requirement.  Apparently it didn't.  And the
funny thing (in 20/20 hindsight) is that the shielding ended where the cable
came to the panel, and the wires split into a T-shape, half going to one
side of the panel, and half going to the other.  What I had here was a
perfect horizontally polarized dipole antenna, perfect for picking up the
output from the vertical stab-mounted antenna!

 So I dropped by TBE's electrical shop and picked up a few feet of left over
"flight" (that means "space qualified") wire, and rewired the thing
yesterday, just like the schematic required.  Several shielded pairs, and
several single shielded wires.  It probably took about 3 hours total just to
make the harness.  Well, it really only took one hour, but I had to do it
the usual three times!  The first one was for practice, just to perfect the
method.  I've been soldering stuff since I was a kid, but this stuff
required liquid flux to get it to flow it all, and I wanted to see what it
took to melt the plastic around the pins and render the thing useless.  My
soldering pencil was almost incapable of melting the solder, much less the
plastic.  Apparently Radio Shack rates its soldering pencils like Craftsman
rates its power tool motors, optimistically, but then it's 30 years old, so
maybe that's the real problem.  The second time, I just wasn't convinced
that I had good solder joints because of the low temperature (it'd take at
least a minute to melt the solder between wire and pin), and I didn't like
the way it turned out.  I changed to a more familiar solder, and things
started to work like they should, so I did another one.

Anyway, I've got it all reinstalled, and there's dead silence when you key
the mic now, so that was apparently the problem.  Having said that, Jeff
Scott tells me he's using exactly the same radio without shielding, and he
has no problems.  Just consider this a warning to just go ahead and shield
it, rather than possibly have to do it twice (or four times).

I've been thinking that my 20 year old wire strippers were worn out, because
I always have to pull really hard when dealing with aircraft wire, and often
end up with a couple of strands broken in the process.  One of the EEs told
me that the secret was to clamp down on the insulation with the strippers,
then let up slightly and rotate it 90 degrees and cut it again before
stripping.  This way the insulation is fully cut, and it comes off a lot
easier than the other way.  Another helpful thing was the long backshell
they gave me, which allows plenty of room for all these shielding
connections to ground.  You can see the end product at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/04071705m.jpg .  There's a layer clear
shrink tubing on the whole works where it exits the backshell.

Oh, and before somebody berates me for soldering these connections, all I
can say is "go blow it out your ear!".  First of all, they are totally
immobilized in this backshell, and just for kicks I tried to break one of
these wires by bending it back and forth 90 degrees times, and didn't see
any broken wires.  That's good enough for me.  And if it's good enough for
the space station and space shuttle, it ought to be good enough for you too.

So now I need to tidy up the installation, and then it's on to installing my
new Ellison carb I got yesterday.  I'm with Mark Jones, I don't think I'm
going to make the Gathering.  I had hoped to take a month off from work and
finish it, but it looks like we're about to get a big job that I was the
main designer on, and it has an extremely short fuze.  More than likely I'll
be doing overtime, rather than taking time off.   Still, I'm very close, and
working steadily on it.  Now I'll have more time to do it right.  I'd rather
do my test flying in cooler weather anyway.  Sounds like we'll have some new
KRs there to fondle though...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> radio noise fixed!

[Louis Staalberg]

<
< radio noise fixed!

<< required liquid flux to get it to flow it all,

Please allow me to make a remark to the  guru of all
guru's.
Nowhere in the electronics world is there ever a need to
use a liquid flux. Perhaps you used the wrong solder.
For the benifit of all readers:
Use *only* 60/40 Rosin Core Solder.
Look at how your plummer solders copper pipe and
observe the green gue running down the pipes!
That is due to the flux he is using.
Perhaps you used the lead free solder which is 95 %tin and 5 % antimony.

Regards,

Louis.

n...@cbiwireless.com
Payson, Arizona.

KR> radio noise fixed!

[Mark Langford]

Louis Staalberg wrote:

> Nowhere in the electronics world is there ever a need to
> use a liquid flux. Perhaps you used the wrong solder.
> For the benifit of all readers:
> Use *only* 60/40 Rosin Core Solder.

Of course I used 60/40 rosin core solder in both cases, only because I
haven't seen any 63/37 locally (that's what Bob Knuckolls at
http://www.aeroelectric.com/ recommends).  For some reason the old Radio
Shack stuff I used years ago seemed to work better than the new roll of
Kester I bought a few months ago, and it made a difference in the end
result.

I don't claim to be an electronics expert (although I've built plenty of
electronic stuff over the years), but when the guy at the electronics shop
recommended a bottle of liquid flux that says "Liquid Solder-Flux" (sold by
GC Electronics at http://www.gcwaldom.com/catalog.html ) to fix my problem,
I went for it.  This guy had been in the electronics business for 25 years,
so I assumed he knew what he was talking about, but maybe he was just trying
to sell me some overpriced snake oil.  This stuff is "pure rosin base and
non_corrosive", so I figured it couldn't hurt, and might just help.

 The guys in Teledyne Brown's electronics shop tried to send some paste flux
home with me also, some sort of special stuff for that particular plated
wire (nickel, I think it was), but I declined because I already had some
from wiring up my strobes with the same kind of shielded wire years ago.  Of
course I couldn't find it when I got home, and by then everybody was gone,
so I was at the mercy of the guy at the electronics store.  I figured
anything was better than nothing, so I used it.  Maybe I wasted my time,
maybe not, but since it was maybe a minute altogether, I'm not going to fret
over it much.

I just did an advanced Google search using "electronic" and "solder" in the
"all words" field, with "liquid flux" in the "exact phrase" field, and got
about 600 hits on places where liquid flux is used on electronics.  All I
saw were applications and sales sites.  I didn't look through them all, but
I didn't see anything that said not to use it on electronics.  There's a
"how-to" regarding aircraft wiring, at
http://www.vansairforce.net/articles/GoodSolderingTechnique.htm that some
might find interesting.

Maybe the reason I haven't had any problem in the past soldering with this
pencil is because I use it on that thin solid PC board stuff to make teeny
little 555 timer circuits and that sort of thing.  The vast majority of my
soldering experience is using a 30 year old Weller 245/325 watt gun that
usually solders stuff instantly, so no problem there.

Bottom line is it's now all soldered up and working, so that's good enough
for me.  On to the intake manifold...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> radio noise fixed!

[Mark Langford]

The other day I wrote that I'd fixed my radio noise problem with shielding,
and all I needed to do now was "tidy up the installation".  That took all
day Saturday, and the last wire I hooked up (VOX enable) got my noise back
again!  Now I was starting to think bad radio, since I'd completely rewired
it and had the same problem.  But my EE buddy at work questioned my use of
one of my shields as a ground wire for the VOX squelch.  I came home and
tried several other things first (with input from Jeff Scott), but
eventually made the shield a floating ground and grounded the potentiometer
to the panel, and now the noise really IS gone.  So the moral of the story
is to follow exactly what the schematic says, and pay particular attention
to which end of the shields go where...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> Radio Antena

[Bob Stone]

Netters,
 For those in the know, can a aircraft radio/nav (OMNI)antenna be mounted 
inside the aircraft if it is a composite like the KR's.  That is to say will 
the signal go through the foam/fiberglass, wood, etc or must it be mounted on 
the outside.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

KR> Radio Antena

[jehayw...@aol.com]

In a message dated 4/26/2004 4:51:23 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
rsto...@hot.rr.com writes:


> That is to say will the signal go through the foam/fiberglass, wood, etc or 
> must it be mounted on the outside.
> 
   Inside works fine as long as there's no *carbon* fiber cloth.

   Jim Hayward 
   Rapid City, SD

KR> Radio Antena

[Bob Stone]

Jim,
 Thanks for the info.

Bob Stone
- Original Message - 
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To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Radio Antena


> In a message dated 4/26/2004 4:51:23 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> rsto...@hot.rr.com writes:
>
>
> > That is to say will the signal go through the foam/fiberglass, wood, etc
or
> > must it be mounted on the outside.
> >
>Inside works fine as long as there's no *carbon* fiber cloth.
>
>Jim Hayward
>Rapid City, SD
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KR> Radio Antena

[Brian Kraut]

Inside is just fine.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Behalf Of Bob Stone
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:51 PM
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: KR> Radio Antena



Netters,
 For those in the know, can a aircraft radio/nav (OMNI)antenna be
mounted inside the aircraft if it is a composite like the KR's.  That is to
say will the signal go through the foam/fiberglass, wood, etc or must it be
mounted on the outside.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com
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KR> Radio Antena

[Ross Youngblood]

Yep it sure can...
As was done on the Voyager around the world airplane.

Go to www.rst-engr.com to buy the do it yourself antenna kit.


On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:50:39 -0500, Bob Stone  wrote:

>
> Netters,
>  For those in the know, can a aircraft radio/nav (OMNI)antenna be 
> mounted inside the aircraft if it is a composite like the KR's.  That is 
> to say will the signal go through the foam/fiberglass, wood, etc or must 
> it be mounted on the outside.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
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