Re: Pootle 3.4.x projects.
On 20/08/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/17/13 5:50 PM, janI wrote: our current source is svn where we have decided to store sdf files. To me, at least, items outside svn is temporary. I would not know where to store the po files so another person might find them sometime in the future. all languages in the AOO 4.0 project includes all changes from AOO 3.4 and merged with the new templates. Languages that are not yet in AOO 4.0 have to merged in the same way. I didn't find the time to do it. Before we delete anything we should make clear we have saved everything. I see that now 3.4 is not listed any longer at https://translate.apache.org/ and this is absolutely OK (volunteers won't be confused). As for saving, I didn't mean that 3.4 PO files should be preserved for eternity, but just that we keep them for a few weeks on the Pootle machine's filesystem, with no commitment (even with no backup), as a convenience in case volunteers ask for them or in case Juergen needs them for the merge he was mentioning (but the merge maybe has already been done, since Bulgarian is enabled for 4.0 and progressing very well, and for Indonesian we have a 4.0 project and new volunteers). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle 3.4.x projects.
janI wrote: Before I finally removed the files, of course, being who I am, I made sure that they were on the backup system. And that is perfect, Jan. Thanks for doing it. That addresses my concern. But really, don't be annoyed for me just asking (and indeed, for asking late). I do my work professionally, use the decision systems we have in place, and dont like these kind of complains, which only purpose seems to be to highlight how good the complainers are, compared to my bad work. My e-mail did not contain any complaints, I totally respect your work and professionalism and I wonder how one could mistake a very ordinary mail for an attempt to discredit your work. That totally wasn't the intention... its clear to me that I am the wrong person to this job. ... thanks for the lack of support. I still believe that you are the best person on the PMC to do this job, and that the community should be thankful to you (as it is) for taking our infrastructure to a new level. I'm sorry that in a couple of occasions this weekend we had misunderstandings leading to unnecessary discussions... Please just assume good faith, and let's use our time on this list not to argue, but to move the project forward. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle 3.4.x projects.
On 25 August 2013 19:47, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: janI wrote: Before I finally removed the files, of course, being who I am, I made sure that they were on the backup system. And that is perfect, Jan. Thanks for doing it. That addresses my concern. But really, don't be annoyed for me just asking (and indeed, for asking late). I do my work professionally, use the decision systems we have in place, and dont like these kind of complains, which only purpose seems to be to highlight how good the complainers are, compared to my bad work. My e-mail did not contain any complaints, I totally respect your work and professionalism and I wonder how one could mistake a very ordinary mail for an attempt to discredit your work. That totally wasn't the intention... the mistake is easy when juergen writes Before we delete anything we should make clear we have saved everything. and you write but just that we keep them for a few weeks on the Pootle machine's filesystem, thats not asking, when its done way after I deleted the files. But lets just leave it, no need to discuss it endlessly. rgds jan I. its clear to me that I am the wrong person to this job. ... thanks for the lack of support. I still believe that you are the best person on the PMC to do this job, and that the community should be thankful to you (as it is) for taking our infrastructure to a new level. I'm sorry that in a couple of occasions this weekend we had misunderstandings leading to unnecessary discussions... Please just assume good faith, and let's use our time on this list not to argue, but to move the project forward. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgl10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-help@openoffice.apache.**orgl10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle 3.4.x projects.
On 8/17/13 5:50 PM, janI wrote: On 17 August 2013 17:35, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: janI wrote: please be aware that any changes made in the 3.4.x and 3.4.x help projects on pootle are lost. In one occasion (Lithuanian) I saw that Juergen managed to preserve the work done on 3.4 when he created 4.0: http://markmail.org/message/** rmmtvbmeo63xyteq http://markmail.org/message/rmmtvbmeo63xyteq ... Let's hope to have this documented too. user Christos have made changes in greek. user jteera have made changes in thai. Changes in Greek are irrelevant since Greek is 100% complete and released in 4.0, so no problem. Changes in Thai should, if possible, be saved as done for Lithuanian. The projects are about to be deleted from the server (when pootle does as I want it to do). The above doesn't mean that Thai should not be deleted (I agree that we really need to get rid of the 3.4 projects), only that PO files should be exported somewhere and (possibly later, and possibly on request) be merged with the 4.0 files. our current source is svn where we have decided to store sdf files. To me, at least, items outside svn is temporary. I would not know where to store the po files so another person might find them sometime in the future. all languages in the AOO 4.0 project includes all changes from AOO 3.4 and merged with the new templates. Languages that are not yet in AOO 4.0 have to merged in the same way. I didn't find the time to do it. Before we delete anything we should make clear we have saved everything. Juergen rgds jan I. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgl10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-help@openoffice.apache.**orgl10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Pootle 3.4.x projects.
Hi please be aware that any changes made in the 3.4.x and 3.4.x help projects on pootle are lost. The changes in these projects will not be updated in the source tree, since we are currently not planning any new 3.4 releases. user Christos have made changes in greek. user jteera have made changes in thai. The projects are about to be deleted from the server (when pootle does as I want it to do). rgds jan I
Re: Pootle 3.4.x projects.
janI wrote: please be aware that any changes made in the 3.4.x and 3.4.x help projects on pootle are lost. In one occasion (Lithuanian) I saw that Juergen managed to preserve the work done on 3.4 when he created 4.0: http://markmail.org/message/rmmtvbmeo63xyteq ... Let's hope to have this documented too. user Christos have made changes in greek. user jteera have made changes in thai. Changes in Greek are irrelevant since Greek is 100% complete and released in 4.0, so no problem. Changes in Thai should, if possible, be saved as done for Lithuanian. The projects are about to be deleted from the server (when pootle does as I want it to do). The above doesn't mean that Thai should not be deleted (I agree that we really need to get rid of the 3.4 projects), only that PO files should be exported somewhere and (possibly later, and possibly on request) be merged with the 4.0 files. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle 3.4.x projects.
On 17 August 2013 17:35, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: janI wrote: please be aware that any changes made in the 3.4.x and 3.4.x help projects on pootle are lost. In one occasion (Lithuanian) I saw that Juergen managed to preserve the work done on 3.4 when he created 4.0: http://markmail.org/message/** rmmtvbmeo63xyteq http://markmail.org/message/rmmtvbmeo63xyteq ... Let's hope to have this documented too. user Christos have made changes in greek. user jteera have made changes in thai. Changes in Greek are irrelevant since Greek is 100% complete and released in 4.0, so no problem. Changes in Thai should, if possible, be saved as done for Lithuanian. The projects are about to be deleted from the server (when pootle does as I want it to do). The above doesn't mean that Thai should not be deleted (I agree that we really need to get rid of the 3.4 projects), only that PO files should be exported somewhere and (possibly later, and possibly on request) be merged with the 4.0 files. our current source is svn where we have decided to store sdf files. To me, at least, items outside svn is temporary. I would not know where to store the po files so another person might find them sometime in the future. rgds jan I. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgl10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-help@openoffice.apache.**orgl10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
