Re: [lace] brass bobbins
In a message dated 06/11/2003 00:58:19 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a pair of brass bobbins, but they are too heavy to use. They are very find in the shank, but still a lot more heavy than the usual bobboin. I have used them for a gimp thread, but they don't hold much thread, and I rarely use them. - Just things to have, not use, really!! (like my glass bobbins, and the pewter one!! but there, ready, for an emergency!!) from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I first started making lace I went out and bought some beautiful glass bobbins which had spirals of color through them - just gorgeous. However, I cannot get any thread to stay on them as they are simply too smooth. I've tried tying the thread on, using sellotape (I was really desperate that time!!) but to no avail. Also, I have a fantastic olive wood bobbin with carved rings on it - guess what - It's one of the hardest bobbins to use as you can't grab it easily. I am now moving towards buying thin bone midlands bobbins so that I can use them for bucks (thin and bone because then they are the right weight but you can get more on the pillow). Has anyone else had similar problems or is it just me? Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Belgian Colour Code
In a message dated 06/11/2003 01:45:25 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GREEN = half st = CT PURPLE = cloth st = CTC RED = whole st = CTCT YELLOW = single thread (usually gimp) Tamara - thanks for this I think that I now understand CT as being the movements with the bobbins - is there an actual 'name' for the 'C' or the 'T'? Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] glass bobbins and aluminum ones
I have some glass bobbins and I just love them. I love the sound they make which is a happy sound to me. I do not have any problems in winding them. I just wrap over the tail a few times and then just wind. I have found that for me I don't usually make a hitch on the place where you are suppose to make it but instead right there the thread is wound. It hold better for me. I do that with all my bobbins no matter what kind they are. I also have some bobbins that my husband made for me at work. They are aluminum and they were turned on a lathe where he works. I also like the sound these make. For me I don't have any problems with the weight with either kind. I have to admit that my husband does a really good job making these bobbins too. At the moment things are busy where he worksso I have been told it would be awhile before he can make me any more. The ones he has he has made them all to look different. These tinkle too. I also have some glass honiton bobbinsI don't have any problems in using these either even though for honiton lace the thread is very fine. I also have a few aluminum honiton ones that my husband has made for me too. They are all mixed, the glass, aluminum and wood ones on my bobbinlace pillow and they work just fine for me. I also have one sterling silver bobbin that I got from Frank somebody over in the UK. The last name escapes me now...but I have found that that bobbin does have a heavier feel to it. Actually on my pillow I have all kinds of bobbins. I know you are suppose to use mainly all the same bobbins on a piece of lace in the making but I mix mine. Well...it is my pillow and I am the lacemaker so I just do what I want. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Finished Projects
So far, in my attempt at relearning lacemaking, I have done 4 snake bookmarks, a horseshoe, I just took a spider bookmark off my pillow. You can see them in my Bobbin Lace album in my Webshots account ... http://community.webshots.com/user/lv2stitch53 My old lace projects are in there, too, but the first three are the ones I've done in the past couple of weeks. Nothing fancy but I'm getting the knack of it back, I think :) Shirlee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Uniform Color Diagramming Codes
As an Oidfa member, and as one who was very impressed with all the work in the 'Point Ground Book', which has proved to be extremely useful, may I second this recommendation. It need not take too long to develop, and is an ideal 'International' project - Oidfa is the one group having members in all the countries needed to be consulted / included. Milada Marshall Somerset, gloomy and damp. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Belgian Colour Code and CT
Gentle spiders, Thank you for all the emails on this. I started to reply to everyone who emailed me back but it is just going to be quicker to email straight to the list. So, sorry to anyone who I've just sent this to. All of these explanations have brought back all the shouting my first teach used to do and now I remember and understand. Sometimes I feel like the enfant savage - I can make the most wonderful lace but I don't understand the terminology because I just make lace. I look at a pattern and just make it. Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] glass bobbins and aluminum ones
In a message dated 06/11/2003 13:18:55 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have some glass bobbins and I just love them. I love the sound they make which is a happy sound to me. I do not have any problems in winding them. I just wrap over the tail a few times and then just wind. I have found that for me I don't usually make a hitch on the place where you are suppose to make it but instead right there the thread is wound. It hold better for me. I do that with all my bobbins no matter what kind they are. Sherry, I don't hitch anywhere but on the main part of the thread - I've always done that (always been a bit of a rebel!!!) but still the thread gently comes off the bobbin. Must just be me. The aluminium ones that your hubby made you must be quite light - I was wondering do they ever leave a black deposit which can happen with foil? Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Colour codes
Thanks for the explanations of the colour codes. I think I stand a chance now of working out how to do some of these French, Finnish and Danish patterns! I'm still inexperienced, so my kind of level at the moment is the detailed instructions Christine Springett and Roz Snowden give for their patterns. But I'm getting better at interpreting diagrams. I mainly bought these books because I've heard so many of you lament not buying books when you saw them, and then having them go out of print. g Regards, Annette, London - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Colour codes
I'm getting better at interpreting diagrams. Great, because there are a whole lot more patterns with diagrams than with verbal instructions. The sooner you can get comfortable with the diagrams, the sooner the whole world of bobbin lace opens to you. Then you will graduate to the patterns with nothing but a pricking and there will be nothing to stop you! Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Belgian Colour Code
Liz - look at the four bobbins you're going to use to make any stitch. Number them from left - right, 1 - 4. A C is a Cross - the action of picking up bobbin number 2 and *crossing* it over the bobbin immediately to the right - i.e., number 3. T is a Twist - the action of picking up the right-hand bobbin of a pair and *twisting* it over the bobbin immediately to the left. Ruth Budge (sydney, Australia) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tamara - thanks for this I think that I now understand CT as being the movements with the bobbins - is there an actual 'name' for the 'C' or the 'T'? Regards Liz Beecher http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New lace poem
Thank you, Noelene!! I really think you need to start looking for a publisher. An illustrator would be fun too... are there any lacemakers out there who also count illustration among their numerous talents? What a fun book to produce - and to own! Clay - Original Message - From: W N Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: [lace] New lace poem Tale of a UFO It beckoned me from hiding In a book I'd put aside. I'm just so beautiful you see and begging to be tried. I know I've got the thread for it Stashed in my special drawer I think I've got the bobbins Or should I buy some more? Now first prepare the pricking - All other tasks can wait And wind the bobbins gleefully (I task I sometimes hate). Oh joy, there is a pillow free It only needs a dusting Gather pins and cloth and such Hurry, time's a wasting! ... .. Is that the time already? Good grief, how time does fly! I've already done an inch or two Just to see how threads will lie. Can't wait for tomorrow When basic chores are done And I can sit and lace in peace I'm having so much fun! ... .. I've done a fair few inches now The pattern's not so hard In fact it's kind of boring To do it by the yard. Maybe if I had a break And came back later on I know there's jobs I ought to do And my inspiration's gone ... .. I really ought to do some more It really is quite nice But first I'll have to retro lace I can see I've done that twice! ... .. I'm sure there should be more of this I've got the pattern beat. But it seems to take forever Just to manage one repeat. ... .. ... .. And now there is another piece I've just got to do, you know. And this old piece gets put aside It's another UFO! Noelene Lafferty Cooma1 November 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Information
Friendly Lacers, I need some help! Went on a weekend retreat with my lace group this past weekend and someone mentioned the name Ann Keller. I said that I could get some information about her, so here I am. The name is familiar to be, but I'll be darn if I can remember who she is. Does she have a site?/and does she sell bobbin lace books? I really feel that she fits into this picture somewhere and I know that I have even contacted her before, but I can not remember why or what for. It's an age thing I think. Please forgive me, but help me if you can. Thank you so much in advance, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Uniform Color Diagramming Codes
On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 12:28 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to recommend that we ask OIDFA (which has leadership from the major lacemaking countries of Europe) to set up a Study Group to wrestle with the problem and develop a standard color diagramming system that will work with all laces and be reflected in new books and computer web sites. It should be based on the most sensible adaptation, starting with the foundation Belgian Color Code. You really don't think small, do you? :) I think it's a spectacular idea (literally g) and long overdue. More and more lace books are moving towards diagrammatical explanations of patterns and away from the verbal ones, to make the books accessible to a larger audience without incurring the costs of translating pages and pages into many languages (and how do you choose *which* languages -- other than the original -- to include?). If UCC became a world-wide standard for all new publications and widely publicised, then the same book would be accessible to *everyone*... I'd think it would be in the publishers' interest to push for such standard. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Information about Ann Keller
Dear Barbara, You are thinking of Ann Margaret Keller from Ireland. She has written pattern books for Bucks, Beds and Torchon. She has further created a uniquely Irish lace of Celtic motifs and specializes in fan patterns. She paints bobbins and fan sticks - from miniature to full size. Her website: http://annmargaretkeller.com/ Patty Dowden == Friendly Lacers, I need some help! Went on a weekend retreat with my lace group this past weekend and someone mentioned the name Ann Keller. I said that I could get some information about her, so here I am. The name is familiar to be, but I'll be darn if I can remember who she is. Does she have a site?/and does she sell bobbin lace books? I really feel that she fits into this picture somewhere and I know that I have even contacted her before, but I can not remember why or what for. It's an age thing I think. Please forgive me, but help me if you can. Thank you so much in advance, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Colour codes
On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 15:51 US/Eastern, Panza, Robin wrote: Then you will graduate to the patterns with nothing but a pricking and there will be nothing to stop you! VBG Speak for yourself... :) Depends a bit on the lace but, in general, the *very first thing* I do when presented with nothing but a pricking is to enlarge it greatly and start drawing a diagram of it. I've been down too many dark alleys, where the *same pricking* seemed to communicate *different ideas of interpretation* to me, resulting in very confused lace (and it's no good saying nobody will notice; I know it's there, and that's enough to bug me)... It makes no difference whether it's my own pattern or someone else's; before I work it, I draw an approximation of the diagram -- as I *think* the threads will go. Then I work on the pillow and, if my guesses prove to be wrong, I add the changes to the diagram. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemaker painting
What a wonderful find, Noelene. How nice to think that someone has noticed that we are here!!! I look forward to seeing the photo on your website. And as to the gnarled fingers - well many of us have imperfect hands due to arthritis - but it does not stop us from making lace, does it?! Folks are supposed to look at the beauty of our lace - not our hands!!! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, - where it is another glorious day, and the flowers are blooming, and the weeds growing - except for the ones I pulled out this morning!!! :)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 1890 lacemaker
Someone has a copy of an 1890 print of a lacemaker. The magazine was British. The lady has a bolster pillow and is using spangled midlands on it. Take a look. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3252095420 Do you think this was a normal practice at the time? Just musing, Alice in Oregon - Brisk cold wind today. Clear but chilly. Oregon Country Lacemakers Arachne Secret Pal Administrator Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Colour coding
(I know, I know - I'm ahead of the idea curve again, and so expect raw eggs to be flung in this direction.) Why would anyone do that, Jeri. I agree with you - a universal code would be a big help. It is the same as getting a standard vocabulary for lacemaking terms - cloth/whole stitch.(I learned to call CTC whole stitch, but now it is called cloth st., and whole st is often what I was taught as Double ½ stitch (CTCT).) Perhaps, though, the confusion is all part of the fun!!! :)) At least we never get bored!!! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lacemaker painting
On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 21:17 US/Eastern, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: And as to the gnarled fingers - well many of us have imperfect hands due to arthritis - but it does not stop us from making lace, does it?! Folks are supposed to look at the beauty of our lace - not our hands!!! Indeed! g For *really* ugly-looking lacemaker's hands go see the print (lacemaker) on my website; I uploaded it when we discussed the 16th c lacemaking tools, but don't know how to trash it; *that* lesson will have to wait till Christmas and the visit from SH (son and heir)... Clay said that the artist probably used his own (cheaper than paying the model g) - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] 1890 lacemaker
Hi everyone and Alice It looks like the 'midlands bolster' - and I 'guess' they would have used spangled bobbins - I recently made a large bolster, stuck a Bucks insertion pricking on it, and hung on my spangled midlands. Works great. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~wt912 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Simple Truths
As I've Matured... I've learned that you cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. I've learned that one good turn gets most of the blankets. I've learned that no matter how much I care, some people are just jackasses. I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it. I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. I've learned that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are more screwed up than you think. I've learned that depression is merely anger without enthusiasm. I've learned that it is not what you wear; it is how you take it off. I've learned that you can keep vomiting long after you think you're finished. I've learned to not sweat the petty things, and not pet the sweaty things. I've learned that ex's are like fungus, and keep coming back. I've learned age is a very high price to pay for maturity. I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it. I've learned that we are responsible for what we do, unless we are celebrities. I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. I've learned that 99% of the time when something isn't working in your house, one of your kids (or your partner) did it. I've learned that there is a fine line between genius and insanity. I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and all the less important ones just never go away. And the real pains in the ass are permanent. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] sad story
It is with a heavy heart that we must pass on the following news. Please join us in remembering a great icon of the Entertainment community. The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71. Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs. Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch. The gravesite was piled high with flours. Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times, he still, as a crusty old man, was considered a roll model for millions. Doughboy is survived by his wife, Play Dough; two children, John Dough and Jane Dough; plus they had one in the oven. He is also survived by his elderly father, Pop Tart. The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes Darlene Mulholland www.darlenem.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
