[lace] RE: lace-digest V2004 #307

2004-09-08 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday Tracy,

again, where are the best places to buy supplies, best books for patterns
and instruction, etc.  I move to much so cannot join a regional group and
take lessons that way.

As you have already found, the Lacefairy site is an excellent source of
everything lace-related.  I would, however suggest that you DO try and find
a local lace group and meet other lacemakers/teachers while you are there.
Even if you move often, a network of other lacemakers to help you get
re-started will be invaluable and besides, you will make new friends who can
help you settle in to your new area.  I am also in a travelling phase of my
life, with a husband who gets sent who knows where.  It is a lot of fun, but
you must find likeminded crafty people whenever you arrive somewhere new.
You will find it much easier to re-learn bobbin lace (and also be inspired)
if you can find some lacemakers in your area.

I am sure other Arachneans in the US will be able to point you in the
direction of a lace group/persons close to you

Welcome back to lacemaking.

Michelle
a fellow displaced Aussie, in the jungles of Suriname, South America


Ian  Chelle Long
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Re: [lace] New and saying hi

2004-09-08 Thread Sue Babbs
HI Tracy
welcome to the list. I am a Brit who has lived in America for 5 years,
mercifully in one place! I live in the suburbs north of Chicago, and have a
16 (nearly 17) year old son.  I have been making lace for 16 years (since he
was 10 months old)

Has anyone got in touch with you from Indiana? I know there are lacemakers
there because they hosted the IOLI convention in 2000 in Indianapolis, and
some occasionally come here when we have European teachers. This is the IOLI
website if that is any use to you:
http://www.internationaloldlacers.org/

Suppliers in the US that I can think of off-hand are:
http://www.lacysusan.com/index.html

http://www.snowgoose.cc/

http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/

There is a kit on the market which costs about $30 kit but I understand it
is not to be recommended. So if you see anything this cheap on other craft
sites, steer clear of it or ask here for advice before purchasing it.
Sue Babbs

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 Hi Everyone,

 My name is Tracy and I just joined the list a couple of days ago.  I

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[lace] RE: Welcome

2004-09-08 Thread Mary Robi
Greetings Spidees and a big cheery welcome to Tracy.
Being a member of this group is a wonderful  comfortable place to learn, 
Tracy. I have collected lots of needed information from members. Please 
don't hesitate to ask questions, as you'll get lots of help. People here are 
just waiting to share their knowledge.

Question for the group. This question was birthed from the pronunciation 
thread. Is there a centralized location on-line that has the different lace 
names with their correct english pronunciations? If not, I'd be willing to 
compile a document if folks would email to me what they know to be correct, 
and then I could distribute to anyone who wants it.

Forgive my ignorance here, but I don't want to step on toes, so if we decide 
to do this, maybe we could pass it through our List Mom for suggestions and 
approval.

If this has already been done, disregard the above. GBG
Mary
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[lace] 2-Pair Inventions - latest

2004-09-08 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders,
Hopefully, this is the last time I'll be writing on this subject, at 
least on the list. Well, maybe last-but one; I'll need to let you all 
know when the price switch happens...

I've checked with the printer yesterday.  The price of ingredients 
hasn't changed since June; it's only the tax that's gone up (by half 
percent). And I've decided to go ahead and risk another print of 100 
copies, to keep y'all's costs down to a minimum, as originally 
promised. So, the new booklet will cost $10.05 instead of $10.00 even.

The shipping details remain as they had been. Within US, it's $3.85 for 
an individual booklet (shipped Prime Rate, because of the free envelope 
I get from the PO. If I had to buy one, any saving on shipping book 
rate would disappear). Or $4.24 for a box of 10 (Book Rate, free box 
from my friendly grocery store. It'll hold 12 copies, but I've only 
been pricing out the cost of shipping 10). For smaller multiples, I'd 
have to buy an envelope and price out individually.

Outside US, the details vary so much, they'll have to be dealt with on 
an individual basis, or else I'd be filling up an entire digest with 
them :)

BUT (there's always one of those g).
I still have 18 copies left from the first print. And I *will not* be 
ordering the second print until all of those are sold. a) I want to 
close the books on that first run, and send the Museum its share as 
soon as possible. b) I can't afford to carry that much stock..

So, help me get rid of this batch; if you hold off till the new print, 
you may have to hold off forever :)

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[lace-chat] joke

2004-09-08 Thread Helene Gannac
A nice clean joke for the list, for once!! I hope you haven't all read it
already...

The medal winning Olympic runner, Picabo (pronounced Peek-A-Boo), is not
just an athlete, she is a nurse.
She currently works in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) of a large South
African metropolitan hospital. However, she is not permitted to answer
the telephone while she is at work.
It simply caused too much confusion when she answered the phone and
said: Picabo, ICU
A good clean story is hard to find these days.

Apart from that, I'd like to tell you that I gave myself a nice, expensive
present for my birthday, last week.
I was demonstrating at the Melbourne Stitches and Crafts Show on Saturday,
all day, and I finally bought that floor lamp and magnifier that I've been
drooling over for the last 2-3 years, the one with a circular light around
the magnifying glass, and a cover for the magnifier. As I grow older, my
eyesight definitely needs some enhancement!!The perfect excuse...
So I charged a few (:-)) more dollars to my credit card and carted away
several kilos worth of boxes on the suitcase trolley I had remembered to
bring (the base is the worst bit, the lamp itself is not very heavy), and
went back to our Australian Lace Guild stand to find that next to it was
another stand that sold different lamps and magnifiers, and probably one I
would have preferred, and a bit cheaper, too!...Isn't that life!! For
years, the other one was the only one I could see at shows, and the minute
I buy it, I see a better one!
Well, I was not game enough to go to the stand where I'd bought the lampo
and tell him I wanted a refund! The poor man had carted it for me from
Sydney specially
When do you think I can get myself the other one? Will DH have forgotten
my purchase next year? in 2 years' time?  Meanwhile, I'd better make some
lace

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, looking forward to a trip to Adelaide
at the end of the month, for the Australian Lace Guild AGM.

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[lace-chat] Spiders!!!!

2004-09-08 Thread Maxine D
A father watched his young daughter playing in the garden.  He smiled as he
reflected on how sweet and pure his little girl was.  Tears formed in his eyes
as he thought about her seeing the wonders of nature through such innocent
eyes.

Suddenly she just stopped and stared at the ground.  He went over to her to
see what work of God had captured her attention.  He noticed she was looking
at two spiders mating.

Daddy, what are those two spiders doing? she asked.

They're mating, her father replied.

What do you call the spider on top? she asked.

That's a Daddy Longlegs, her father answered.

So, the other one is a Mommy Longlegs? the little girl asked.  As his heart
soared with the joy of such a cute and innocent question he replied No dear.
Both of them are Daddy Longlegs.  The little girl, looking a little puzzled,
thought for a moment, then took her foot and stomped them flat.

Well, we're not having any of that gay stuff in our garden she said

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[lace-chat] Spam and downloads

2004-09-08 Thread Jean Nathan
There's a big problem with telephone diallers installing themselves and then
dialling premium rate numbers without the peple knowing. They're getting
phone bills for amounts ranging from over GBP100 to as much as GBP900.
Apparently these programs can dial even when the computer's switched off, I
assume because switching off the computer doesn't necessarily switch off the
modem.

The official regulator for this was on Working Lunch yesterday, and even
he got caught. His daughter completed an on-line IQ test which downloaded
one of these diallers and he didn't know until he got his phone bill.

They can also install themselves through pop-ups. We've got pop-ups blocked
by installing the MSN toolbar. With Windows XP you can set it to block
pop-ups.

BT will also bar the use of premium rate numbers from your phone for free if
you call them on 150. It means that you probably won't be able to dial your
ISPs technical help line, make charity payments for things like Comic Relief
or vote in TV polls (something I've never got into), but you could always
use your mobile for those.

Some of these diallers also dial overseas numbers and BT will block these
for a charge. Because we phone friends in other countries, we haven't got
overseas numbers blocked (it's all or none), but do check the cost of calls
from our phone line since out last bill periodically through the BT web
site.

The regulator said that they are working with the police where they can
prove fraud is involved, and are taking steps to make all those who want a
premium rate number to get a license for it and to lodge a substantial cash
bond before the number is granted, but that's still in the pipeline.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] Spam and downloads

2004-09-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
A friend of mine got caught with that one, apart from the unexpected 
bill they had a lot of trouble getting the spam dialler uninstalled 
from the computer.

As I understand it, always-on/broadband connections don't (as yet!) get 
affected by this one because they don't dial out each time.

Brenda
On 8 Sep 2004, at 09:01, Jean Nathan wrote:
There's a big problem with telephone diallers installing themselves 
and then
dialling premium rate numbers without the peple knowing. They're 
getting
phone bills for amounts ranging from over GBP100 to as much as GBP900.
Apparently these programs can dial even when the computer's switched 
off, I
assume because switching off the computer doesn't necessarily switch 
off the
modem.

Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace-chat] Spam and phones

2004-09-08 Thread Lynne Cumming
I gave up when I was getting 70-80 porn type spams a day and changed my
email. I have several addresses I use but it was surprisingly easy to change
my main address and let people know. Since then (with an email address
without part of a 'name' in it) I have had hardly any spam at all. This is
even with using it on websites and internet shopping.
We have had to block our house phone from phoning mobiles since our last
bill. DD2 was calling her friends - only for a few seconds each time (when
she was out of credit on her mobile) but the accrued total of minimum call
charges was frightening. She has paid me back! As we are on broadband I'm
glad to hear we don't have to face the dial out problem. The bill for last
month has just dropped through the door and I am mightily relieved to see
what it is!
Meanwhile I'm enjoying the peace of the first day on my own since all
returned to school, college, work etc! As all the rest are school term based
I've had them around making a mess on my days off so it's been hard to keep
up the housework etc. Never mind back to the next load of laundry while
there is sun to dry it in!

Lynne
in sunny for once Baldock
 Lynne Cumming
 Baldock, North Herts, UK
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Re: [lace-chat] Pronunciation

2004-09-08 Thread Joy Beeson
At 09:28 PM 9/7/04 +0100, Joan Whitfield wrote:  

 How do  they make enough profit to carry
 on sending this junk.

When ads are free, you don't mind having to send a million of them for every
sale you make.  Spammers will use programs that make up addresses by
permuting common elements -- if you make up enough addresses, you are sure
to hit a few that are valid.  

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west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.

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[lace-chat] Spam and phones

2004-09-08 Thread Jean Nathan
Unfortunately I can't get at yesterday's 'Working Lunch' programme on the
BBC website, but I'm certain that the ICSTIS regulator said that broadband
was now being hit by these diallers, but can't remember the details of how
the fraudsters did it. It's really annoying when the archive for these
programmes, isn't a full archive.

One person on NTL broadband, had a BT phone line which he used just for
occasional faxes, and this was hit even though the line wasn't used for
internet or email access.

UK-online say If you're using UK Online Broadband, a rogue dialler shouldn'
t affect you at all. However, you can make sure you are 100% safe simply by
ensuring that your old dial-up modem isn't plugged into the phone line, or
is completely removed from your PC.

surefish.co.uk say The risks from diallers are significantly reduced by
switching to broadband, though some experts say it is not entirely safe.

This from   http://forums.itweek.co.uk/thread.jsp?forum=11thread=37142
Hi, Just wanted to warn everyone about diallers placed onto your PC by web
sites. We had a £25 charge on our phone bill, which we did not recognise.
Our telephone provider advised it was a internet service, we have Broadband
and have no need for diallers. I remember Spybot picking up a dialler in our
system some time ago, which I deleted.
The UK telephone watchdog ICSTIS, identified the telephone number (0906 734
0024) as going to a German company , ICSTIS gave me their contact info but
advised they cannot fight any case for us, but they have fined this company
£4,000 for breaching certain rules and were issued with a 'formal
reprimand'. The company however advised us we authorised the charges, which
were for an IQ test (our daughter does access these). We argued we would
never agree to pay anything and that the funds have been taken dis-honestly
from us. This company are now ignoring my messages, as I asked them to show
me thier web link so I can see how it is possible to authorise these
charges. as they have not done so, I bevieve thay are theives.
I have not mentioned the company for legal reasons here, but I will if
anyone wants to know privately. Good luck I hope this does not happen to
anyone else.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] message for Sue Harvey

2004-09-08 Thread W N Lafferty
Sue - I am receiving and replying to all your emails,
but apparently you aren't receiving them (but they
aren't bouncing back, either).   Your parcel arrived
safely long ago and was greatly enjoyed.  Do you
have more than one email address?

Questions and answers on chat will appear in the
same digest because some people get their messages
direct and someone answers straight away, so anyone
getting the digest gets both in the same digest

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace-chat] Fw: fairies

2004-09-08 Thread lynn
Okay, so maybe it's not quite PC, but it is a cute joke.

Lynn Scott, Wollongong, Australia


Subject: FAIRIES

The magical Fairy...

A married couple in their early 60s were out celebrating their 35th wedding
anniversary in a quiet, romantic little restaurant.  Suddenly, a tiny yet
beautiful fairy appeared on their table and said,

For being such an exemplary married couple and for being faithful to each
other for all this time, I will grant you each a wish.

Ooh, I want to travel around the world with my darling husband said the
wife.

The fairy moved her magic stick and - abracadabra! - two tickets for the new
QM2 luxury liner appeared in her hands.

Now it was the husband's turn.  He thought for a moment and said:

Well, this all very romantic, but an opportunity like this only occurs once
in a lifetime, so, I'm sorry my love but my wish is to have a wife 30 years
younger than me.

the wife, and the fairy, were deeply disappointed, but a wish is a wish...

So the fairy made a circle with her magic stick and - abracadabra - the
husband became 92 years old.

The moral of this story...

Men might be ungrateful idiots...

But fairies are..female!!!

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[lace-chat] Re: Fw: fairies

2004-09-08 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Sep 8, 2004, at 20:34, lynn wrote:
The fairy moved her magic stick and - abracadabra! - two tickets for 
the new
QM2 luxury liner appeared in her hands. [...]
So the fairy made a circle with her magic stick and - abracadabra - the
husband became 92 years old.
I hope the wife had sense enough not to waste her tickets on the dumb 
cluck; taking care of a 92yr old on a cruise can't be much fun...  :)

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[lace-chat] senior citizens

2004-09-08 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
SPECIAL POEM FOR SENIOR CITIZENS!!
A row of bottles on my shelf
Caused me to analyze myself.
One yellow pill I have to pop
Goes to my heart so it won't stop.
A little white one that I take
Goes to my hands so they won't shake.
The blue ones that I use a lot
Tell me I'm happy when I'm not.
The purple pill goes to my brain
And tells me that I have no pain.
The capsules tell me not to wheeze
Or cough or choke or even sneeze.
The red ones, smallest of them all
Go to my blood so I won't fall.
The orange ones, very big and bright
Prevent my leg cramps in the night.
Such an array of brilliant pills
Helping to cure all kinds of ills.
But what I'd really like to know...
Is what tells each one where to go!

There's always a lot to be thankful for if you take time to look for it. For 
example I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt.
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Re: [lace-chat] senior citizens

2004-09-08 Thread Ruth Budge
Lynn, this is very timely for me - less than 12 hours ago, I visited the doctor
with a bladder infection.  He prescribed pills (yellow, as it happens!) which
he assured me specifically target the kidneys and bladder, and very little of
whatever the substance is goes anywhere else in the system!

I must admit, as I left the office, I was reminded of a ditty my mother used to
sing:
How does the dear little pill, when you're ill
Know where your liver is, eh?

I just wish I'd thought to ask him how?!!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

Lynn Weasenforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SPECIAL POEM FOR SENIOR CITIZENS!!
A row of bottles on my shelf
Caused me to analyze myself.
One yellow pill I have to pop
Goes to my heart so it won't stop.
A little white one that I take
Goes to my hands so they won't shake.
The blue ones that I use a lot
Tell me I'm happy when I'm not.
The purple pill goes to my brain
And tells me that I have no pain.
The capsules tell me not to wheeze
Or cough or choke or even sneeze.
The red ones, smallest of them all
Go to my blood so I won't fall.
The orange ones, very big and bright
Prevent my leg cramps in the night.
Such an array of brilliant pills
Helping to cure all kinds of ills.
But what I'd really like to know...
Is what tells each one where to go!

There's always a lot to be thankful for if you take time to look for it. For 
example I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt.
*-..-**-..-**-..-**-..-*

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: The Inheritance

2004-09-08 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: S.D.
Expecting to inherit a fortune when his sickly, widower father dies, 
Charles
decided he needed a woman to enjoy it with. Going to a singles bar, 
he spotted a woman whose beauty took his breath away.

I'm just an ordinary man, he said, walking up to her, but in just a
week or two, my father will die and I will inherit 20 million dollars.
The woman went home with Charles, and in four days she became his
stepmother.
Men will never learn
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