Re: [lace] Danish bridal crowns
At 03:53 PM 3/12/2005, you wrote: We talked a little about lace for the wedding, and she and I are both intrigued with the Danish bridal crowns I realize I can just design or use an edging of suitable size and weight, or it could be a shaped edging with a wide part toward the front. She liked the Christian IV-style edgings I've shown her. I'm not familiar with the edgings referred to here, but it reminded me of some head pieces I'd seen. The Kortelahti book Nyplatkaamme (Let's Make Bobbin Lace) has several crown type head pieces in it. They go on the front half of the head, not all around. If not the style wanted, they might at least give a size/shape pattern suggestion. The pictures don't show how they are anchored, but my guess is a bobby pin at each end. While searching through my books for more head pieces, I found the flower bouquet head pieces in floribana by Anny Noben-Slegers. Also, I was attracted to some of the edgins in La guipure du Puy by Flouriscot and Hubert. I could see some of them adapted to a crown. I know I've seen some other wedding crowns, but I can't find them right now. Maybe someone else can find some. It sounds like a very fun project. Best wishes, Alice in Oregon -- where spring has come early, and very warm. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Danish bridal crowns
Mojn Julie I do have some patterns on bridal crowns, one is in tonder, torchon, Chr.4, and tape. I made one self, you can see it on the adress below, it is made in silver. I cant remember what map, it is under things that I have made. Dorte, from a normal day of wether. www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Danish bridal crowns
Hi Julie, Sonne, Mond and Sterne by Inge Theuerkauf has both 5 and 6 pointed stars, and instructions for making 3D stars too. The book is in German, but my copy came with an English translation by Stephanie Peters. Torchon stars are 5 pointed, point ground 6. Hope you find somethinig you like. Karen In Coventry, who is tempted to make lace today instead of pruning the old apple tree in the garden! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] SA Lacemakers Fair
Hi Spiders, Our Lace Fair is over for another year and our Co-ordinator has posted the following message * The SA Branch A Lace Affaire has now finished. It was a very successful weekend with visitors from Alice Springs, Swan Hill and Melbourne as well as our country and local lacemakers. The Competition for A Handkerchief edged with handmade lace - any type was won by Joyce Campbell with a magnificent honiton edged handkerchief. Certificates for Highly Commended were awarded to Marie Laurie with a Needlelace edged handkerchief and Barbara Thompson with a Point Ground edged handkerchief. There were 21 entries from local, interstate and overseas and we would like to thank you all for your support. The judges informed me that they narrowed it down to 6 before the final choice was made. The entry by Joyce Campbell also won the popular vote contest. I will let you know when and what the next one will be and we hope that you will enter again. Thanks again for your support. ** Thank you to all for your entries, it was great to see so many this year. Bye for now, Shirley T. - Adelaide, South Australia where it was 36ish today. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11-Mar-05 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI roomie wanted
Gentle Spiders, I'm looking for a room-mate for the IOLI convention in Denver this summer. Only rule is non-smoker. Please contact me off list. Oh, I found a cute spider pin at a jewelery shop in the French Quarter that I'm going to be wearing at the convention. Beth McCasland Metairie, Louisiana, USA (suburb of New Orleans) where the spring weather is wonderful and the flowers are blooming - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Danish bridal crowns
Hi Julie ! Can't help much with the bridal crowns. You might want to start off by going to shops that sell fabrics and notions, and seeing if anyone has a base for a bridal crown which your daughter likes. Some of the higher-end shops have bases that only require the addition of lace and/or beads to be complete. The advantage, of course, is that you don't have to reinvent the wheel, but also that she can see if that shape and style actually suits her, once it's on her head!! Once you find what you want, then the matter of adapting a lace you both love becomes the real task. Congratulations on having that clever husband! Legos are still some of my favorite toys (no... don't have time to play with them much any more...) ; ) But when my son was growing up, they were among his favorites too, and I managed to keep most of them. Last year, I gave his son and him a huge box of legos (most were still in their original, though battered, boxes). I know a little motor was in there... wish I had it still!! Maybe Keith would take on the challenge of designing a new and improved version, based on currently available parts! Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Julie Enevoldsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Date: 3/12/2005 6:55:54 PM Subject: [lace] Danish bridal crowns Gentle Spiders, I haven't had time lately to post much, but I do try at least to skim the list as often as I can. I'm tickled Keith's Lego bobbin winder is still giving people ideas! But my post today is on a different topic. Exciting news! My daughter will be getting married in a year and a half or so--no firm date set, as she's focused on grad school right now, but that leaves time to think about lace! We talked a little about lace for the wedding, and she and I are both intrigued with the Danish bridal crowns I've noticed in a few books. I'm thinking this would be a lovely way to do a manageable piece of lace (in a prominent place!), and she likes the idea. So, I'm soliciting ideas from the Arachne community. I realize I can just design or use an edging of suitable size and weight, or it could be a shaped edging with a wide part toward the front. She liked the Christian IV-style edgings I've shown her. I might try to work a 5-pointed star into the design (she is an astronomer, and likes the 5-pointed variety). Can any Danish arachnes tell me anything about these crowns? The examples I've seen seem to imply that they are traditional. Stiffening ideas: I've thought about starching, and I've thought about wiring. (Hmm. Her fiance is an electrical engineer--maybe I could wire it with LEDs!!) I'd like to hear the community's experiences and/or suggestions. Wearing suggestions: how to keep it on? If anyone would like to suggest a pattern they think I should consider, I'd be happy to hear about that, too! And if any of our designers have thoughts on 5-pointed stars, I would love the benefit of the collective brain. (I've thought about leaves, as in marguerites, triangular tallies, and braids in pentagram shapes.) Grateful in advance for any help you can give me, Julie E. in Seattle - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin and thread storage in wood containers
In a message dated 3/13/05 3:30:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point is that they store their thread in a cigar humidor. It seems that these often come up on ebay, (and no doubt other suchlike places) as unwanted gifts - so have never held tobacco. They seem to be beautiful boxes and cabinets, and the humidifying part is optional. It looks to me like the boxes could be used to store thread, and the cabinets with their slotted shelves, could show off as well as store bobbins. Here's the first catalogue of pictures I came across on a websearch:- http://tinyurl.com/2sb5n Dear Lacemakers, These are lovely! It looks to me as if some of these are made of wood. Here are words of caution about wood containers for storage: For threads, if any storage item is made of wood - it is important that you know it has been made and finished specifically for thread. Off-gasing of wood acid fumes and some chemicals that may have been applied to wood for various reasons may discolor and weaken thread. For bobbins, it would probably be best to store without leaving thread wound on them. I wonder how wood boxes (in the long term) might lead to discoloration of bone, paper, and other unique materials that some of our fancy bobbins are made of in the 21st Century? Also, how would painted bobbins react - especially those painted in whites and pastels? We cannot be too careful with such collectibles. Yes, we know that old lace pillows had wood drawers in the base, and that acid off-gasing was not a consideration when they were made. Perhaps not always, but very often the contents show signs of acid burn - weak discolored threads and darkened bobbins (darkened because the bobbins were wood, and getting a double dose from the wood drawer). Though we tend to say this is the result of old age and dirt, it is possible some damage would have been avoided, had they the knowledge we have. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Hair weaving and free lace workshop
I promised that I would ask Pompi Parry about bobbins for hair weaving when I saw her yesterday. We all had a fantastic time at a workshop day. Just about everyone managed to reach the bottom of a piece of lace intended for a wall hanging even if the finishing off had to be done later. We had no pricking, no working diagram, no design in mind before we started. We had fifteen, assorted, textured threads, an eight inch copper ring, some very large bobbins and glass headed pins. The only 'rule' was to move the threads from one side of the ring to the other, by using half stitch, tallies, twists, and various grounds. Irregularity was the order of the day! We all enjoyed the experience immensely. As to the bobbins for hair weaving. Pompi said that there were two kinds - some made entirely of lead, the others rather like very elongated tear drops about three inches long and without a neck. Looks like those on e-bay were something else. Liz Pass In Poole, Dorset, UK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lego Bobbin Winder
Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bobbin winder shown at http://www.geocities.com/atatter.geo/kieth_enevoldsen.html was designed by the husband a member of Lacemakers of Puget Sound. When I recently discussed this design with her, she mentioned that some of the parts in the original design are no longer available. She indicated that some engineering and design changes would be necessary in order to adapt the original design to currently available parts. As the mom of a child who currently plays with Legos, I can tell you that there are Lego auctions for missing parts. One website where I have obtained missing parts and instructions (to Lego sets we found at garage sales) is: http://www.lugnet.com/ Not to mention that modern Lego sets are amazing! There are all sorts of cool little gears and moving pieces that I never remember from the plain, brick-style sets my brothers had. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Danish bridal crowns
Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I've seen some other wedding crowns, but I can't find them right now. Maybe someone else can find some. Although these are not bobbin lace, there are a number of bridal crowns in Tatting Patterns and Designs, by Gun Blomquist and Elwy Persson. This book was originally published in Swedish, but perhaps the crowns are similar. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] threads
Hi, Can anyone explain to me the difference between different threads and how it might affect the lace it's used for? Obviously, the material it's made out of (cotton, linen, synthetic) will make a difference but how does the weight work? And what *is* mercerised cotton? On the desk in front of me I have: DMC Broder machine 50 (I think I intended on buying Brilliant d'Alsace) (I assume mercerised, only because I know that's what it says on Silko (??) machine thread) Mettler Stopf-u. Stickgarn, No 60/2 (100) which is mercerised cotton Venus Crochet Cotton #70 (I have four of these in different colours all of which are #70, so it can't be a colour code) Bocken Linen 80/2 I thought that the numbers 50,60,70 and 80 referred to the weight of the thread, however, the Mettler (60/2) is visibly the thinnest. The other option I can come up with is that the weights are measured differently for different types of thread.I'm also assuming that all are suitable for beginner lacing at least as the Mettler was what my nan gave me to start a whole-stitch giraffe many years ago and the others were bought at the recent Weston-super-Mare suppliers fair. Various patterns in the book I'm working from call for DMC Brilliant d'Alsace 30 50 and Campbell's/BDUC linen 100. Which threads from the ones I already have can be substituted for the ones listed above? The book was published in 1985, so it won't surprise me if some of the threads haven't been made for several years. Helen in Somerset, UK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 07/03/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] threads
I feel that Brenda Paternoster's book might be just what you need to answer all of these questions. She explains very clearly how the thread counts work and also is the most comprehensive thread comparison list I have ever come across. I would say that broder machine is the same as the brilliante alsace 50. The venus is pretty close to the fil a dentelles 80 balls which are thicker than a dmc 30, closer in weight to a brok 36/2 if my memory serves. Not having Brenda's book immediately to hand. Claire Kent,UK On 13 Mar 2005, at 9:47 pm, Helen wrote: Hi, Can anyone explain to me the difference between different threads and how it might affect the lace it's used for? Obviously, the material it's made out of (cotton, linen, synthetic) will make a difference but how does the weight work? And what *is* mercerised cotton? On the desk in front of me I have: DMC Broder machine 50 (I think I intended on buying Brilliant d'Alsace) (I assume mercerised, only because I know that's what it says on Silko (??) machine thread) Mettler Stopf-u. Stickgarn, No 60/2 (100) which is mercerised cotton Venus Crochet Cotton #70 (I have four of these in different colours all of which are #70, so it can't be a colour code) Bocken Linen 80/2 I thought that the numbers 50,60,70 and 80 referred to the weight of the thread, however, the Mettler (60/2) is visibly the thinnest. The other option I can come up with is that the weights are measured differently for different types of thread.I'm also assuming that all are suitable for beginner lacing at least as the Mettler was what my nan gave me to start a whole-stitch giraffe many years ago and the others were bought at the recent Weston-super-Mare suppliers fair. Various patterns in the book I'm working from call for DMC Brilliant d'Alsace 30 50 and Campbell's/BDUC linen 100. Which threads from the ones I already have can be substituted for the ones listed above? The book was published in 1985, so it won't surprise me if some of the threads haven't been made for several years. Helen in Somerset, UK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 07/03/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI convention
Hi everyone, Who's going to the IOLI convention this year? And for people who've been before, what's it like? I'm thinking of going, but it is pretty expensive, now that I've actually added it all up - do you think it's worth it? Explaining to my husband why I want to spend $1000 on a lace conference isn't easy either... g Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] threads
Helen asked: Can anyone explain to me the difference between different threads and how it might affect the lace it's used for? Obviously, the material it's made out of (cotton, linen, synthetic) will make a difference but how does the weight work? See below And what *is* mercerised cotton? Mercerisation is a process in which the cotton is treated with caustic soda. This makes the individual fibres swell and the thread is more lustrous than unmercerised cotton On the desk in front of me I have: DMC Broder machine 50 (I think I intended on buying Brilliant d'Alsace) (I assume mercerised, only because I know that's what it says on Silko (??) machine thread) DMC Broder Machine comes on two different size reels - the bigger ones are Broder Machine Retors D'Alsece and the smaller ones are Broder machine Brilliante; and yes it is mercerised. There are (currently) two sizes available, 30/2 and 50/2 Mettler Stopf-u. Stickgarn, No 60/2 (100) which is mercerised cotton 60/2 is the cotton count, 100 is the metric number - again see below Venus Crochet Cotton #70 (I have four of these in different colours all of which are #70, so it can't be a colour code) Venus crochet cotton is 70/6, cotton count Bocken Linen 80/2 80/2 NeL (English Linen number) I thought that the numbers 50,60,70 and 80 referred to the weight of the thread, however, the Mettler (60/2) is visibly the thinnest. The other option I can come up with is that the weights are measured differently for different types of thread. Apart from the Bockens linen all of these threads are sized by the English cotton count (cc) which refers to the number of 840 yard hanks of thread which can be produced from one pound of fibres spun to that thickness. The finer the thread the more hanks that can be obtained from the one pound and so the higher the cc number The DMC and the Mettler are both two ply threads - 50/2 means two plies of 50cc spun together and 60/2 means two plies of 60cc spun together. Venus is a six ply, but double spun - two plies of 70cc are spun together and then three of those are spun together in the opposite direction. Most crochet threads are double spun. The metric number (Nm) is the number of 1,000 metre hanks that can be made from one kilogram of fibres The English Linen number (NeL) is the number of 300 yard hanks that can be made from one pound of fibres For both Nm and NeL the number of plies in the thread affects the thickness in the same way as with cc. 80/3 linen has half as many fibres again as 80/2. I'm also assuming that all are suitable for beginner lacing at least as the Mettler was what my nan gave me to start a whole-stitch giraffe many years ago and the others were bought at the recent Weston-super-Mare suppliers fair. Personally I'd say that Mettler 60/2 is rather fine for a beginner - unless you are starting with Honiton! Cotton thread is generally easier for a beginner to work with so I'd suggest starting with your Venus cotton, however for bobbin lace the thickness of the thread and the scale of the pattern do have to match each other. There's a chart on my website to match the distance between pinholes of a pattern to the thickness of a thread measured in wraps/cm which is how I've measured everything in my Threads for Lace book. Have a look at http://tinyurl.com/66qjp BTW Venus is 27 wraps/cm, DMC broder machine 50 is 42 wraps/cm, Mettler stickgarn 60 is 46 wraps/cm and Bockens 80/2 is 28 wraps/cm. Various patterns in the book I'm working from call for DMC Brilliant d'Alsace 30 50 and Campbell's/BDUC linen 100. Which threads from the ones I already have can be substituted for the ones listed above? DMC Brilliante D'Alsace 50 *is* Machine Broder 50 and is only a bit thicker than Mettler stickgarn 60. Bockens 80/2 an Venus are similar in thickness but quite a bit thicker. Bouc linen 100 and Campbells 100 both come in between as regards thickness. The book was published in 1985, so it won't surprise me if some of the threads haven't been made for several years. Even a book published in 2005 can be out of date as regards available threads!!! Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Signing your email /winding bobbins
Hi Antje, This page shows what I was trying to describe. The only difference was that I make a loop for my left little finger instead of the plastic ring and the addition of another divider pin to hold the spool is a good idea. Janice I don't know who was the person interested in the string method for winding bobbins. I haven't read too many messages... Perhaps Carolina's explanations on this method can be useful for you. This is her web site: http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/winder.html Many greetings from Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI convention
At 02:50 PM 3/13/2005, you wrote: Who's going to the IOLI convention this year? And for people who've been before, what's it like? I'm thinking of going, but it is pretty expensive, now that I've actually added it all up - do you think it's worth it? Explaining to my husband why I want to spend $1000 on a lace conference isn't easy either... g Weronika Hi, I'm going, along with 8 others from my immediate area. That I know of so far, that is. There will probably be more. IOLI Conference is a marvelous experience. You would take a class, or two, from very experienced teachers. For some people, it's the only time they have access to teachers. Almost every major type of lace has a class, though the most popular fill up very fast. That's why you have to choose several options. You will meet, eat with, perhaps room with, make lace with, and just talk with other people who love lace. In the sales room you will see in person all the bobbins, threads, books you never knew existed, and all manner of things to make lacemaking easier or more efficient. You can touch, feel, hold, smell, and drool over (mentally) everything. Sometimes they have antique lace dealers there -- something else to study and marvel about. You will meet and talk with some of the best known lacemakers, book authors, teachers, and suppliers in the USA and even many from across the seas. You will make friends who understand what you are talking about. As a side note, you will be able to put faces and personalities to many names on Arachne. The lace exhibit is awe inspiring. You can see what has actually been done, and you might find an idea of what you want to do or learn. In that week you will have at least 50 hours of intense lace experiences -- and that comes to only $20 an hour for your $1000 investment. Try getting your car fixed for that rate. Or hiring a lawyer. Or any other skilled work. The excitement, the inspiration, the stimulation cannot be measured in dollars. Actually SEEING lace of all kinds being made can be an education in itself. As is seeing the variety of equipment and styles of lace. In my first class at a conference when I was a veritable greenhorn who know next to nothing about lace, I learned as much from the others in the class as I did from the teacher -- and I learned alot from her! While you're at it, plan to take some extra spending money so you can get that special book or whatsit that you absolutely must have. And some commemorative bobbins, and the yummy new color of thread. Be sure to pick up catalogs so you can later order what you forgot to get while you were there. Yes, a conference at a large commercial hotel is expensive. It's difficult to find any other type of place that has enough classrooms, large meeting halls, and sleeping rooms for a lace conference. However, sharing a room with one, two or three others will cut down that housing cost per each. Use some creativity with the meals that are not part of the conference. There's a Super Walmart just across the street -- so I've been told. And some other eating places. You don't need to eat every meal in the hotel dining room, unless you choose to. There's a lot of things that can be done with a china mug and a water heating coil. Just ask my roommates. G For a first timer, and especially if you are a new lacemaker, I would recommend taking only one class. It gives you half a day to work on your lace and half a day with the teacher. This schedule also lets you attend all the secondary features of the conference as well as work on your lace. You don't have to choose between 'turning that next corner' and a special program. Or, if you choose an all-day class, give yourself a break in the evenings and do not make lace all night. Six hours a day is enough for the fingers and the brain. Get a good night's sleep and be ready to start again the next day. Tell your husband that it's just $20 an hour for an education you cannot get at home, on your own, with a book. It's a bargain! And start making plans. It would be fun to meet you in person. Looking forward to Denver! Alice in Oregon -- in continuing above normal temps, and no rain. That means drought this summer, but lovely right now. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI convention
On Mar 13, 2005, at 19:11, Alice Howell wrote (in response to Weronika): I'm going, along with 8 others from my immediate area. Me too, I hope :) Almost every major type of lace has a class, though the most popular fill up very fast. That's why you have to choose several options. This year, I gambled... On the one hand, I wanted to go - my step daughter lives nearby (Boulder) and I could stop with her for a few days afterwards; my very first American friend (and still beloved, even though I've not seen her for years) will be there... On the other hand, there weren't all that many classes I really wanted to take, and I can't excuse spending a lot of cash for a social occasion and a frustrating lace experience (been there, done that). So, I put down for only one class in the morning (Lenka's advanced wire) and one in the afternoon (Louise Colgan's advanced Milanese)... I get them, I go; I don't get them, I save the money for something else (maybe Ithaca in October again). But that's why I refuse to even think about booking the plane ticket until I know; the hotel room you can cancel without penalty, but not the ticket. In that week you will have at least 50 hours of intense lace experiences -- and that comes to only $20 an hour for your $1000 investment.Try getting your car fixed for that rate. Or hiring a lawyer. Or any other skilled work. :) When I first started to learn needlepoint ('81? '82?), I was appalled at the initial costs; the book was a Christmas gift, but everything else (supplies) had to be bought... The owner of the needlework shop (we still had one, then) simply said: hour for hour, it's about a tenth of what the psychiatrist would charge. Which applies, in spades, to a *well chosen* workshop in congenial surroundings :) Like Alice said, being around other lacemakers for several days is a tonic, even without a teacher. But here, you also get a teacher who's likely to be the very best in her (and sometimes his) area... Worldwide, since IOLI always invites the teachers from all-over, and that's true this year also (might be the last time, though, if the dollar keeps plunging g). Yes, a conference at a large commercial hotel is expensive. It's difficult to find any other type of place that has enough classrooms, large meeting halls, and sleeping rooms for a lace conference. I still think we don't explore the possibility of using university campuses aggressively enough. The lace events I've been to in Europe, which tend to take place at such, have been perfectly satisfactory vis food and lodging, and the classrooms *better* than anything a hotel can offer. However, sharing a room with one, two or three others will cut down that housing cost per each. Use some creativity with the meals that are not part of the conference. There's a Super Walmart just across the street -- so I've been told. And some other eating places. You don't need to eat every meal in the hotel dining room, You don't need to sign up for all the extras, either... I've signed up for the Arachne lunch, but not for any of the tours or the dinner on Wednesday. I've seen a lot of Colorado on my previous visits, feel a bit like a fish out of water at most of the big, hearty gatherings, so opted to take only the ones which are included in the registration fee (one breakfast, one lunch and the banquet). I'll spend Wednesday either catching up on my classroom work, or taking an independent trip and eating on the cheap. For a first timer, and especially if you are a new lacemaker, I would recommend taking only one class. It gives you half a day to work on your lace and half a day with the teacher. There, for once, I disagree... One class - yes, maybe, if it's a 24hr one on a single subject, especially for Weronika (who's 21, and has been going great guns for over a year). But that's what I meant by well chosen class. I've had some *most excellent* experiences in attending lace events, but I also had some sour ones, early on. The sour ones could - almost always - be traced directly to a wrong choice of workshop. Workshops is what I go for; the rest is but the icing on the cake. So you need to know yourself - your stamina, your ability to concentrate, your tolerance for being told (as opposed to figuring things out for yourself), as well as have some inkling of the teacher's methods before you commit yourself to a class. Or, if you choose an all-day class, give yourself a break in the evenings and do not make lace all night. Six hours a day is enough for the fingers and the brain. Depends on the workshop and on personality... When it's something you have no clue about and you're starting from zero, or if your teacher is a stickler for doing things just so - which many, if not most non-US teachers are - six hours a day is plenty; there's but so much you can absorb all at once without undue stress. Took me a while to learn that lesson. OTOH, when I took a class in
[lace] RE:IOLI convention
Alice put it very nicely in a nutshell, Weronika - but she forgot the off-day (tee-hee!), when you get to take a day off, and perhaps see a little more of Denver or Colorado, by taking one of the tours. We have some wonderful tours lined up for people, so that they can see why those of us who live here, love it! Or you can just veg at the hotel! In essence, this is a lace immersion week (in one form or another), and please remember that the organizing committee is doing their absolute best to keep it as affordable as possible, and as enjoyable as possible for everyone. Please consider coming - bring your DH too if you want (and can afford) - there's a lot to do in and around Denver and Colorado - and if you've never been here before, we hope you'll come and enjoy it :-) Cheers, Helen, Aussie living in Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI convention
Dear Weronika, I missed last year's IOLI in Harrisburg, PA, and it was the first I've missed in many years. They've been held in the East, the West, and in between, and each one is the best money you'll ever spend, and the best time you'll ever have. The cost is not expensive when you consider what you get. The classes are taught by the best in the world. The vendors are to dream about, and the whole hotel is filled with Lacemakers. There are often other hotel guests who soon get the gist of what we're about and are quite amazed! The Bulletin gives you the agenda which doesn't vary much once you get registered. They'll give you a day by day schedule when you check in and you'll find it easy to follow. And this year, we're pleased that the hostess Guild has arranged a luncheon for us Spiders! Isn't that great? Thank you Rocky Mountain Lacers. One of the best things about Convention is the comradre you will have with other lacemakers. Always prepare to sit in the lobby, atrium, or wherever there is a spot light enough, and you are free, to do some bobbin lace for the passer-bys. As for affording it, I wrote my last will and testament long ago, Being of sound mind, I spent it all. Having a supportive husband helps as well. Go for it, Gal - you won't regret it! Happy Lacemaking, Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA ~ -Original Message- From: Weronika Patena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who's going to the IOLI convention this year? And for people who've been before, what's it like? I'm thinking of going, but it is pretty expensive, now that I've actually added it all up - do you think it's worth it? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Australian Tea Cosies
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:53:25 -, Linda wrote: Karen In Coventry, England, commented:- Wonder how many lace decorated tea cosies they will get! Not many here, I'm sure, even in what feels like the British Championship Lacemaking County. (We are so lucky in having lots of really good suppliers on our doorstep, and even the second-hand bookshop always has a shelf of lacemaking books.) However, I've just had a vision of a lace-decorated tea cosy, looking a bit like those lacy panties that baby girls often wear for special occasions, and imagine that it might be a way to display/do something with all those little strips of experiments and samples and try-outs of lace that lurk at the back of my lace box. Yeah, but then you don't have them for reference. Keep your samples in page protectors, one day you will need them. But it could be fun to make a tea cosy out of some of those baby knickers -- Benign What you are after you be eight Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]