Re: [lace] Lace rides up on pins

2005-05-24 Thread beth
Well done, Andy, that's exactly what you should do! 
In the English midlands laces (torchon, bucks, beds) it's usual to angle all 
the pins slightly towards the back of the pilllow, and the edge pins (along 
the side of the lace) sideways as well, away from the lace a little, for much 
the same reason. 
Beth
in a wet, windy Cheshire, NW England

Andy Blodgett wrote:
 When I put the base row of pins in stratight (on
 which all the bobbins hang)  the lace tends to ride up on the pins. Is this
 a common problem for beginners? My solution was to angle the pins slightly
 away from the lace so that the weight of the bobbins keeps the lace from
 riding up on the pins.  I am putting the rest of the pins in straight.


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[lace] Another bobbin on ebay - look at this

2005-05-24 Thread Jean Nathan
Doesn't the middle section of this dip pen look almost identical to the 
bobbin on ebay?


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=26265item=6181084757rd=1

I reckon it's the middle section of a dip pen like this with the pen holder 
missing from what looks like the broken end. The letter opening blade's been 
broken off the other end, and that end smoothed.


Jean in Poole 


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[lace] Another bobbin on ebay

2005-05-24 Thread Brian Lemin

Jean, What an excellent observation!

We really need to see it to see just where it is broken.

Never mind.



Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia

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Re: [lace] Pattern for bobbin lace classes

2005-05-24 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Hello Robin and all other lacefriends,

It's my understanding that copying pages for use in a class was covered
under the fair use clause of copyright.  In other words, it would not
be a violation of copyright to use patterns from published books.  Of
course, that may vary in other countries.
It is not so really clear and because for some of us  happened that 
they found their own designs with another name some people are 
meanwhile a bit critical.
Some years ago a lawyer told me if the name of the origin person and 
the source is written on the sheet and if you don't asked for more than 
the price of the copy (in our country not so much private copier exist, 
we go to the copy-shop) it is allowed. But some book-writer don't like 
this. It is a difficult thing.

And I know that the DKV try to find an answer for this problem.
Greetings

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Pattern for bobbin lace classes

2005-05-24 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 24/05/2005 12:25:27 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello  Robin and all other lacefriends,
 It's my understanding that copying  pages for use in a class was covered
 under the fair use clause of  copyright.  In other words, it would not
 be a violation of  copyright to use patterns from published books.  Of
 course, that  may vary in other countries.
It is not so really clear and because for some  of us  happened that 
they found their own designs with another name  some people are 
meanwhile a bit critical.
Some years ago a lawyer told  me if the name of the origin person and 
the source is written on the sheet  and if you don't asked for more than 
the price of the copy (in our country  not so much private copier exist, 
we go to the copy-shop) it is allowed.  But some book-writer don't like 
this. It is a difficult thing.
And I  know that the DKV try to find an answer for this  problem.
Greetings

Ilske



Apologies for quoting the whole of the email but I wanted to put my  reply in 
context.
 
Last year, during our last foray into copyright law, I contacted the UK  
Patent's office about the copyright on lace patterns within the UK.  They  were 
very helpful and agreed with me that the fact that you have to photocopy  your 
lacebook in order to make the design puts us in a very different position  to 
most other book users.
 
Think about it - If we want to work our way through a book of patterns we  
need to photocopy the pattern (probably about 45% of the book which already  
takes us over what is normally allowed) - then, we are often encouraged to copy 
 
the diagram of the pattern and enlarge it so that we can work from it - so by  
the time we've done it all we could have copied about 75% of the book.
 
But, and this is the biggy ... we have bought the book and by buying it  have 
entered into a contract which allows us to copy the patterns for OUR OWN  use.
 
Copying pages for class, under UK Law is a violation of the copyright which  
allows us to make copies for our OWN use - i.e. that we make the item not that 
 we are using them to teach from.
 
Now US Law is different as a ruling has now been made.  According to  the 
Copyright Handbook by Stephen Fishman, with deals with US Copyright  law: 

Fair use of out of print works

The drafters of the  Copyright Act and the Supreme Court have suggested that  
a user may  have more justification for reproducing a work without permission 
if   it is out of print and unavailable for purchase through normal channels. 
 
(Harper   Row v. Nation Enterprises, 471 U.S. 539 (1985).) Thus,  most 
courts 
give  users more leeway when they quote from or photocopy  out-of-print 
works. 
But this  does not mean that any amount of material  from out-of-print works 
may 
be used  without permission.
 
The advice that I was given in the UK for out of print work is very  
interesting as I was told that the Copyright law protects against the copying 
of  a 
work.  The right lasts for the life of the author, and for 70 years after  the 
author's death.  In addition, in the UK, the publisher also has a right  in the 
layout etc. of the book, which lasts for 25 years.
 

If a work is out of print, this does not negate the copyright, or the  
duration given above.   In the UK there are limited exceptions to  copyright, 
for 
fair dealing purposes such as private research, private  study, criticism, 
review and news reporting etc, but these are limited in scope,  and will not 
allow the copying of large sections of a book etc.  If the  author has not 
indicated to what extent she may or may not allow copies of the  work to be 
made, it 
may well be that making a single copy for your own use  would not be 
considered fair dealing under the law.  Your actions could  then constitute an 
infringement of copyright.
 
This advice corroborates the position that the publishers Ruth Bean took  
over the pricking for Miss Channer's mat - which caused this debate to happen  
last time.  They were saying that whether or not Miss Channer was dead, or  her 
original book out of copyright, by redrafting the pricking they now had  
copyright over the pricking as issued - i.e. the layout as mentioned  above.
 
There is a worry that with some of our favourite designers stopping from  
producing patterns that we could be loosing patterns - but there are two issues 
 
here to remember - 1) there are more patterns out there than we could make in 
a  lifetime and 2) once you have finished with a pattern and your pricking 
then you  can always give it on to another lacemaker to have and keep.
 
Such sequential ownership of patterns is not an issue as you relinquish  
rights to it with passing it on.  However, to give the pricking and not the  
original pattern is an infringement of copyright as you have the ability to 
make  
another pricking from the pattern.
 
Multiple copies of a pricking from one book is infringement of copyright so  
by using a pattern 

[lace] What happens to the lace teacher's work?

2005-05-24 Thread Linda Greyling
Hi Friends

My questions is directed to all lace teachers.  
When you started teaching
- did you make more lace than before?
- did the quality of your work improve?
- did you try new kinds of lace to accommodate students?
- did you become more creative in your own designs?

What makes you continue teaching?

Looking forward to your answers and any comments that would be useful to help 
someone decide to teach or not.

Linda Greyling
Helderkruin near Johannesburg South Africa.







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[lace] unsubscribe

2005-05-24 Thread Sally Lorensen Conant
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[lace] Copyright...

2005-05-24 Thread C. Johnson
This is a very good spot to go to on the web to check Copyright
infringement.
It is specifically written for Copyright and educators This should apply
to lace instructors whether you have one student or several.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cnew/research.htm#Purpose%20of%20use
Have a Great Day!
Susie Johnson
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815-942-3722

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[lace] lace course

2005-05-24 Thread Bobbinlacemaker
Any ideas where one can take a bobbinlace course in july  (any course), just 
to fill in my holidays ?


Magda from cloudy Brugge 


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[lace] Update and a Question

2005-05-24 Thread Adrienne Kattke
I've received the following update (seen below) to the information published 
in the Lace Organizations and Publications page on the Arachne website.


Over the years, I've gotten quite a few messages of this sort, but am unable 
to comply with the writers' wishes as I have no way of changing the 
information on the site.  When I compiled the original list, I sent it to 
Mimi Dillman, who then put it on the website, with my name listed at the 
bottom of the page.  I know she hasn't been handling this for quite a while, 
and I'm wondering if anyone is doing so now, and whether changes can be 
made.  As I remember, the information was published in 1998!  My way of 
handling updates has been to forward them to Lace, but I think it certainly 
would be beneficial if the original could be refreshed every time there's a 
change.


Hoping we can find a solution to this little problem.

Adrienne

P.S.  Please reply to me personally, if this subject isn't appropriate for 
discussion on the Lace list.  (I don't subscribe to Lace-chat.)



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:34 AM
Subject: oidfa


Dear Adrienne,
I happened to find the Lacemakers' Mailing List FAQ on the Internet and your 
name underneath. As webmaster of OIDFA I would like to ask you to change the 
information about:


The correspondence address is: 1, Triq Tal-Gruwa; Sannat VCT 112, Gozo, 
Malta.

The Internet address is: www.oidfa.com
the e-mail contact address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and last but not least: the articles in the Bulletins are all written in 
English and French, the official languages of the organisation.


Thank you for your help.
Elly de Vries. 


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Re: [lace] lace course

2005-05-24 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Hello Magda,
I which country?
Ilske

Am 24. Mai 2005 um 17:12 schrieb Bobbinlacemaker:

Any ideas where one can take a bobbinlace course in july  (any 
course), just to fill in my holidays ?


Magda from cloudy Brugge
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Re: [lace] What happens to the lace teacher's work?

2005-05-24 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Hello Lind,


- did you make more lace than before?
Yes, but not always my own projects because I redo every pattern I have 
in my course-map even I have done it before.



- did the quality of your work improve?

Sure it does.


- did you try new kinds of lace to accommodate students?
Mostly the course has a theme but during the course I ask what my 
students like or want or doesn't know yet. And I tell about my projects 
and so on. And if there are questions not belonging the course I try to 
answer and show.



- did you become more creative in your own designs?
That's difficult to answer, but I become more sure in what I did and do 
and often understand things better and quicker.



What makes you continue teaching?
I like to do it and If people ask me to do I want to help them. And I 
like to keep this handicraft alive and/or tell people who don't know 
about lace what a wonderful thing it is.


Greetings

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Copyright...

2005-05-24 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 24/05/2005 15:27:25 GMT Daylight Time, Susie  Johnson 
writes:

This is  a very good spot to go to on the web to check Copyright
infringement.
It  is specifically written for Copyright and educators This should  apply
to lace instructors whether you have one student or  several.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cnew/research.htm#Purpose%20of%20use
Have  a Great Day!


This is a great site but guys please remember that this site is based on US  
law - you will need to check your home country's position on  copyright.

 
Regards

Liz in London

I'm back _blogging_ (http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee)  my 
latest lace  piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to 
_http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee_ 
(http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee) 

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Re: [lace] What happens to the lace teacher's work?

2005-05-24 Thread delia.palin
I cannot say about lace teaching, because I have only been making for 5 
years and have not tried, but I know from experience of teaching silver 
jewellery making that


- I did make more jewellery than before.
- The quality of my work definitely improved as I demonstrated the 'proper' 
way of doing things, and started practising what I preached!
- I had to try all sorts of new techniques that I had only read about 
before, because my students wanted to try them and I had to be the 'expert'.
- My designs improved by leaps and bounds, sparked off by my students' ideas 
and inspirations, and by the need to create designs that they could use and 
learn from.

ALSO - I made some very good friends.

I have retired from teaching now.  I miss it no end, but have found that the 
experiences I had and the confidence I gained through my teaching, have 
inspired me to try out lots of new things that I would never have tried 
before.  If you are thinking of teaching - go for it!  You will enjoy the 
experience and be greatly enriched by it.  You will also be surprised at how 
much you know that you did not think you knew (VBG)


Dee Palin

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From: Linda Greyling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Lace@arachne.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:08 PM
Subject: [lace] What happens to the lace teacher's work?



Hi Friends

My questions is directed to all lace teachers.
When you started teaching
- did you make more lace than before?
- did the quality of your work improve?
- did you try new kinds of lace to accommodate students?
- did you become more creative in your own designs?

What makes you continue teaching?

Looking forward to your answers and any comments that would be useful to 
help someone decide to teach or not.


Linda Greyling
Helderkruin near Johannesburg South Africa.







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Re: [lace] Re: lace in fashion

2005-05-24 Thread romdom
le 24/05/05 4:35, Tamara P Duvall à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 On May 22, 2005, at 5:48, Carolina de la Guardia wrote:
 
 some days ago, a Galician fashion designer, contact me asking me for
 people which can produce laces.
 
 Super news! I just hope he's willing to pay you enough to make it worth
 while  :)
 
 T, in rainy Lexington,


all the more so as french fashion designers  tell lacemakers that making
lace for them is a good enough publicity stunt without asking for money on
top of that !!!

dominique from warm Paris .

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Fw: [lace] lace course

2005-05-24 Thread Antje González
Any ideas where one can take a bobbinlace course in july  (any course),
just to fill in my holidays ?
Magda from cloudy Brugge

Would Spain be alright? I can give you information about a marvellous course
in July in Galicia, if you don't mind travelling to far.

Grettings from Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain
http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero/

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Re: [lace] Re: lace in fashion

2005-05-24 Thread Clay Blackwell
... to which the French Lacemaker should respond, Our handmade lace is 
worth the price you will pay for it in order to execute your annual
publicity stunt of fashion.

Clay

Clay Blackwell
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 Date: 5/24/2005 6:56:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Re: lace in fashion

 le 24/05/05 4:35, Tamara P Duvall à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

  On May 22, 2005, at 5:48, Carolina de la Guardia wrote:
  
  some days ago, a Galician fashion designer, contact me asking me for
  people which can produce laces.
  
  Super news! I just hope he's willing to pay you enough to make it worth
  while  :)
  
  T, in rainy Lexington,


 all the more so as french fashion designers  tell lacemakers that making
 lace for them is a good enough publicity stunt without asking for money on
 top of that !!!

 dominique from warm Paris .

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[lace] tatting shuttles/ bobbin lace

2005-05-24 Thread susan
hello lace makers,

i have a question about tatting shuttles i hope someone will help me
with.  do they hold as much thread as a bobbin and can they be used for
bobbin lace making?  and how do you make one? 

 there are some beautiful handpainted ones on
www.lace-bobbins.co.uk/tatting.htm.

thank you

susan

from susan in tennessee,u.s.a.



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[lace] paint for bobbins

2005-05-24 Thread susan
hello again,

i was hoping to find a good permanent paint for painting bobbins that
would not rub off on the thread.  can any acrylic or oil paint work and
will painting them with a polyurethane coating protect the color from
getting on the thread?  

please let me know.

thank you

from susan in tennessee,u.s.a.



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[lace] Re: What happens to the lace teacher's work?

2005-05-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On May 24, 2005, at 9:08, Linda Greyling wrote:


My questions is directed to all lace teachers.
When you started teaching
- did you make more lace than before?
- did the quality of your work improve?
- did you try new kinds of lace to accommodate students?
- did you become more creative in your own designs?

What makes you continue teaching?


You're likely to get more answers from people like myself and Delia who 
are *not* teaching lacemaking... :) I was trained to teach (ie I took 
all the required courses on child/teen psychology, teaching methods, 
yadda, yadda, yadda, for my MA) but it was ESL, not lace. And, once in 
US, seppuku sounded like a more tolerable option that teaching :)


However... When I tried to weasel out from sending a pattern for the 
Lace Museum's Pattern Book (that never was) by saying that I was not a 
teacher of lacemaking (patterns were sought from teachers), I was told 
that the work I do on Arachne is an equivalent of teaching. So I feel 
empowered to answer your questions :)



When you started teaching
- did you make more lace than before?


When I started to publish patterns on a regular basis...
I sure-as-sure made more lace than before; not only do I have to 
deliver an x number of patterns to a deadline (and never is the first 
sample satisfactory g), but - for my own sanity - I need to make some 
lace which I do not have to document, eitherr from my own patterns or 
from someone else's.



- did the quality of your work improve?


You betcha :) But it's a no-brainer question... The more lace you make, 
the more it improves. Unless you're brain-dead. In which case you're 
not making lace. QED.



- did you try new kinds of lace to accommodate students?


I didn't... pursuing whatever grabs my fancy is the one vent I have 
in my work to a deadline schedule. I tend to stick with the laces I 
know, because that's where I'm likely to be best/most useful.  If/when 
I take a course in (or learn from a book) a new lace, it's for my 
personal enlargement; sometimes the new knowledge migrates into the 
old areas, but not always. Since I am NOT a teacher, I do not have to 
accomodate anyone but myself :)



- did you become more creative in your own designs?


That's a given (axiom) g... The more you learn, the more you trade 
ideas with others (whether by taking classes or teaching them)... the 
more new ideas insist on breaking free from your brain.


To change the subject... Slightly, given the recent resurgence of the 
copyright issue... :)


What's happened to the Two Pair Inventions in South Africa? You got a 
copy from me in Prague (summer '04), for copying/dispensing wthin SA, 
with the proviso that, *every copy* that was made, would engender an 
equivalent of $3.85 for the Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA.


I know that copies have been made of my copy... But I've not heard 
*word one* from SA about the distribution of the profit.


Profit doesn't have to be sent directly to the Lace Museum; if y'all 
send it to me, I'll write them a check for the amount (and spring for 
the envelope and the stamp g). But, if you have/are going to send 
profits directly to the Museum, I'd appreciate being put in the loop as 
regards information, seeing I've composed the tedious booklet :)


I cannot claim foreign country reprints (UK and SA) of the booklet as a 
tax break unless *I* write the check to the relevant charity.  And, 
given the current rob-the-poor to sponsor the rich climate in US, I'm 
disinclined to even try (I'd rather make lace than hassle).  So, you 
send it wherever it's the most convenient *for you*...


But I'm loath to lose all the possible income the Lace Museum should be 
getting from my boooklet and y'all's reprints...  So, I'm asking in 
the open: where's the beef?


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Pins angled

2005-05-24 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti

Andy Blodgett  askes about putting in pins straight or angled.
Well, I Always angle my pins - slightly backwards for the Internal pins, and 
'Back and Out' for the edge pins.
However, if working trails, I sometimes ease the pins Back and Out to keep 
the work down on the trail pricking.  Sometimes this is necessary to keep 
the work sitting down correctly
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz  -- Where we have had a couple of showers 
of rain - at last!, but not enough to get too  excited about!


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[lace] Re: lace course

2005-05-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On May 24, 2005, at 11:12, Bobbinlacemaker (Magda in Brugge) wrote:

Any ideas where one can take a bobbinlace course in july  (any 
course), just to fill in my holidays ?


There's a course - *superb*, from the point of view of an American 
lacemaker deprived, by the Prex B, of any future... Lier Lace, taught 
in Harrisburg, PA July 22-24. But, given that the teacher is Greet 
Rome-Verbeylen, from Belgium... I doubt you're likely to fly thousands 
of miles to come to it :)


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Re: Lace rides up on pins

2005-05-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On May 24, 2005, at 1:09, Andy Blodgett wrote:


So far I am working on the whole stitch and half stitch basic stitches.


If I could, I'd award you the Lacemaker's Medal Of Persistence :) The 
basics are *the* most tedious bits of learning lacemaking... They're 
also the ones you really *can not* weasel out of :)



Looks like a lovely gauze bandage.


Yeah, well... :)  I managed to restrain myself from using the results 
as an alternative to toilet paper, and I expect you can, too g


When I put the base row of pins in straight (on which all the bobbins 
hang)  the lace tends to ride up on the pins. Is this a common problem 
for beginners? My solution was to angle the pins slightly away from 
the lace so that the weight of the bobbins keeps the lace from riding 
up on the pins.


One of the nice things about lacemaking (from my POV, anyway) is that 
there's always more than one way to skin the cat... :) And the *best* 
thing is that, every statement about lacemaking tends to be a bit 
iffy; it differs, depending on circumstances... This philosophy suits 
me to a T; I'm a rebel Libra from way back... :)


Pins straight vs pins angled (and which way)...

We get a lot of do this advice from books, but it's always limited to 
a particular type of pillow/lace technique.  After a lot of been 
there, done that, here's my skinny on the subject (I welcome 
contrary experiences):


On a totally flat pillow (*not* the UK mushroom/cookie):
Angle out the side (footside/headside) pins; angle back - slightly - 
all others.


On a slightly domed (cookie) pillow:
Angle out the side pins, set all the others as straight as possible, 
*especially if* the pins are close together (Point Ground etc)


On a roller/bolster pillow:
Set all pins straight (they'll angle as the roller moves toward the 
back)


The spacing of pins (closer or farther apart) seems to make a 
difference also; the closer together the pins (other than the side 
ones) are, the straighter they want to be (assuming the same pattern), 
especially in the ground.


So far, I've never been able to resolve  the problem of lace rides up 
vs pricking rides up...  *Something* always does :)  Both distort the 
lace to an extent; neither seems to distort it to the unacceptable 
level.


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Re: painting bobbins

2005-05-24 Thread APRILBOBNS
Susan,

I would recommend Acrylics as they dry into *literally* plastic.   It would 
flake off
before it would discolor thread.   However I wouldn't paint the neck of the
bobbin and then it won't be an issue.   NEVER use oils.   Watercolor can be 
used
if you use many coats of varnish.   Something like Varathane.   Acrylics need 
to
be varnished also.

April
(Bobbin Art)
In sunny Shoreline Washington
USA

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[lace] Ho0w to make a tatting shuttle

2005-05-24 Thread Brian Lemin
I can tell you how either on the list (if a number of members want to know) 
Or privately.


If say a half a dozen want to know how, then I would ask the moderator to 
allow me to tell you via the list.



Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia 


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[lace-chat] A very good Philosophy!

2005-05-24 Thread Malvary J Cole
Work

People who do lots of work...make lots of mistakes

People who do less work...make less mistakes

People who do no work...make no mistakes

People who make no mistakes...get promoted

That's why if you need a promotion you should spend most of your time sending
e-mails  playing games at work

Malvary in Ottawa

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[lace-chat] secret pal thank you

2005-05-24 Thread JMMAcademy
Dear Secret pal.  I am so sorry if this is not a repeat thank you.  My 
computer has been on the blink off and on all month.  To top it off I have been 
demonstrating Bobbin lace and spinning every weekend since the 30th of April. 

I did love my package so very much.  I shared the coffee at a guild meeting.  
The chocoltes went fast.  My 3 kids were right there to see what you sent.  I 
have the jewel candle holder and tea candle on my bedside table.  I had to 
make the ladybug kit up immediately.  Lady Olivia the puppet and the metal bell 
ladybug are hanging up and looking so cute.  The ladybug bookmark is in my 
Bible.  The beautiful Angle bobbin is on one of my demonstration pillows.  What 
a 
truely  wonderful package.   I I love it all so much.  I hope that Ive 
already sent a thank you but if not please forgive me. Thank You so much.   
 
  Hannah Moad

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[lace-chat] secret pal thanks

2005-05-24 Thread Andrea Lamble
Dear Secret Pal, Your parcel arrived last Thursday, which coincided with
my Brithday so it made an extra surprise for the day. I was very pleased
with all the contents - I'm always short of divider pins and the needle
threader will be very useful. The pin cushions are really cute and the
little bag will be useful for keeping thread in. I have just got back
from a long weekend away so have only just been able to get to my
computer to reply. Looking forward to finding out your identity next
month Best wishesAndrea



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[lace-chat] Monica Ferris book coming out

2005-05-24 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  I just got a special notice from Barnes  Noble that Embroidered
Truths by Monica Ferris will be coming out in the US on June 28th!  I
gather that's a hardback.  So far I have resisted buying the hardbacks but
I'm having trouble finding out when Crewel Yule will be out in paperback :
(  I searched BN and Amazon a few weeks ago and couldn't find a date for
the paperback.

I guess that means I have to be PATIENT!  Not a virtue of mine G.

For newbies, Monica Ferris writes wonderful mysteries and the detective is
the owner of a needlework shop.  The mysteries involve embroidery and other
needlework and one had lace in it!  They're
very entertaining and the needlework shop angle is a lot of fun.

Jane in Vermont, USA where the rain is making everything really green though
it would be nice to appreciate it in the sunshine G.
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[lace-chat] FW: Dogs and Cats

2005-05-24 Thread Jane Bawn
 As seen in a dog's diary:

8am - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favourite!

9am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favourite...

10am - Oh Boy! A walk! My favourite!

11am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favourite!

Noon - Oh Boy! The kids! Yaaay great fun!

1pm - Oh Boy! The yard! My favourite!

3pm - Oh Boy! More kids! Excellent!

4pm - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favourite!

5pm - Oh Boy! Mum! Brilliant!

7pm - Oh Boy! Playing ball! My favourite!

9pm - Oh Boy! Sleeping in master's bed! Yippee!

As seen in a cat's diary:

Day 183 of my captivity...

My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects.

They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal.

The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the mild
satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional piece of furniture.

Tomorrow I may eat another house plant. Today my attempt to kill my captors
by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded - must
try this at the top of the stairs.

In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again
induced myself to vomit on their favourite chair - must try this on their
bed.

Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body, in an attempt to
make them aware of what I am capable of, and to try to strike fear into
their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little Cat
I was. Hmmm, not working according to plan.

There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in
solitary throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the
food. More importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to MY power
of allergies. Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage.

I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog
is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a
half-wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be an informant, and speaks
with them regularly. I am certain he reports my every move. Due to his
current placement in the metal room, his safety is assured.

But I can wait, it is only a matter of time...




Jane Bawn
Portchester UK

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal thanks

2005-05-24 Thread Shirley
Dear Secret Pal, Thanks for my parcel it is full of goodies as usual.The
chocolate has been tested , just to make sure it survived the trip all right.
My home smells lovely from my incense sticks ( I always burn incense ) my bath
bomb smells beautiful can't wait to try it and last but not least my Brugge
keyring, None of the other girls in my group will have one and it is lace
tomorrow, time to show off a bit with my secret pal present.   ;-)

I am going to try to make the stork on the card you sent me, will try to graph
it out when I am finished what I am currently doing.

Next month I find out who you are, at this point I don't have a clue.
Thanks again,
Shirley.
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[lace-chat] Monica Ferris book coming out

2005-05-24 Thread Jean Nathan

Jane wrote:

I'm having trouble finding out when Crewel Yule will be out in paperback 
:

(  I searched BN and Amazon a few weeks ago and couldn't find a date for
the paperback.

According to Amazon UK, there's already a paperback of 'Crewel Yule', but 
it's more expensive than the hardback for some unknown reason, and the mass 
market paperback is due in October 2005.


Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Re Monica Ferris book

2005-05-24 Thread Shirley
I will have to watch out for it, I have the one about lace making ( sent to me
by a secret pal ) and I really enjoyed it.
Shirley in Corio Oz

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[lace-chat] For Golfers

2005-05-24 Thread Malvary J Cole
A golfer set up his ball on the first tee, took a mighty swing and hit his
ball into a clump of trees. He found his  ball and saw an opening between
two trees he thought he  could hit through. Taking out his 3-wood, he took
another mighty  swing; the ball hit a tree, bounced back, hit him in the
forehead  and killed him.  As he approached the gates of  Heaven, St. Peter
saw him coming and asked Are you a  good  golfer, to which the man replied:
Got here in  two, didn't I?
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The bride came down the aisle  and when she reached the altar, the groom was
standing  there with his golf bag and clubs at his side. She said:  What
are your golf clubs doing here? He looked her right in the eye and said,
This isn't going to take all day, is it?
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An octogenarian,  who was an avid golfer, moved to a new town and joined the
local Country Club. He went to the Club for the first time to  play, but was
told that there wasn't anybody he could  play with because they were already
out on the  course.  He repeated several times that he really  wanted to
play today.  Finally,  the assistant Pro said he would play with him and
asked him how
many strokes he wanted for a bet. The 80-year-old said, I  really don't
need any strokes as I have been playing  quite well.  The only real problem
I have, is getting out of  sand traps. And he did play well.  Coming to the
  par four 18th, they were all even.  The Pro had a nice drive and was able
to get on the green and two-putt for  a par.  The old man had a nice drive,
but his approach shot  landed in a sand trap next to the green.  Playing
from the bunker he hit a high ball, which landed on the  green and rolled
into the cup. Birdie, match and all the money!  The Pro walked over to the
sand trap where his opponent was still standing in the  trap.  He said:
Nice shot, but I thought you said you have a problem getting out of sand
traps? Replied the octogenarian, I do, would you please  give me a hand?
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A woman goes to the local newspaper office to see that the obituary for her
recently deceased husband is published. The obit editor informs her that
there is a charge of  50 cents per word.
She pauses, reflects, and then she  says, Well then, let it read, Fred
Brown  died.  Amused at the woman's thrift, the editor tells her that there
is a seven-word minimum for all  obituaries.
She thinks it over and in a few seconds says,  In that case, let it read,
Fred Brown died: golf clubs  for sale.
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A 75-year-old woman went to the doctor for a check up. The doctor told her
she needed more cardiovascular activity and recommended that she engage in
sexual  activity three times a  week.
A bit embarrassed, she said  to the doctor, Please tell my husband.  The
doctor went out into the waiting room and told the husband  that his wife
needed sex three times a  week.  The 78-year-old husband replied, Which
days? The doctor answered, Monday, Tuesday, and Friday would be ideal.
The husband said, That's fine. I can bring her on Monday, but on Tuesdays
and Friday I golf, so she'll have to take the bus.

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[lace-chat] lace jacket on eBay

2005-05-24 Thread Alice Howell
Here is an all lace jacket of Irish crochet and filet lace.  It's rather 
pretty.  The price is still reasonable right now.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8306270879

Alice in Oregon -- where summer has arrived for a day or two.

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: When Mom gets sick

2005-05-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall
I've not responded to the make a woman happy message on chat, much as 
I've wanted to - not enough time... But, in a way, I don't need to; 
this should be enough  of a refutation :)



From: R.P.


Notes from a man trying to make Mom's life easier while she is sick
in bed...

Monday A.M.
Dearest: Sleep late. Everything under control. Lunches packed.
Kids off to school. Menu for dinner planned. Your lunch is on a tray
in refrigerator: fruit-cup, finger-sandwiches. Thermos of hot tea by
bedside. See you around six.

Tuesday A.M.
Honey: Sorry about the egg rack in the refrigerator.  Hope you got
back to sleep. Did the kids tell you about the Coke I put in the
thermoses? The school might call you on this. Dinner may be a little
late. I'm  doing your door-to-door canvas for liver research. Your
lunch is in refrigerator. Hope you like leftover chili.

Wednesday A.M.
Dear  Doris: Why in the name of all that is sane would you put
soap powder in the flour canister! If you have time, could you
please come up with a likely spot for Chris's missing shoes?
We've checked the clothes hamper, garage, back seat of the car
and wood box. Did you know the school has rules about bedroom
slippers? There's some cold pizza for you in a napkin in
the oven drawer. Will be late tonight. Driving eight Girl Scouts to
tour meat-packing house.

Thursday A.M.
Doris: Don't panic over water in hallway. It crested last night
at 9 P.M. Will finish laundry tonight. Please pencil in answers to
following:
1. How do you turn on the garbage disposal? I thought it was
automatic. Guess not.
2. How do you turn off the milkman?
3. Why would that rotten kid leave his shoes in his boots?
4. How do you remove a Confederate flag inked on the palm of a
small boy's hand?
5. What do you do with leftovers when they begin to snap at you
when you open the refrigerator door?
I don't know what you're having for lunch! Surprise me!

Friday  A.M.
Hey: Don't drink from pitcher by the sink. Am trying to restore
pink dress shirt to original white. Take heart. Tonight, the ironing
will be folded, house cleaned and dinner on time... I called your  
mother.


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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