[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-25 Thread Jane Partridge
In message 8cc83ee338e6ff2-5d24-3...@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com, 
Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com writes

I, too, use continental bobbins exclusively and have not
had the shredding problem so that might be an explanation.


I'm wondering if there are several problems being discussed and the 
description meaning different things to different people!


To me, shredding means losing fibres by being worn away in a 
cutting/grating sort of fashion - such as you shred paper - this would 
happen relatively quickly.


Shedding, where small fibres from the thread are lost in use, is usually 
caused by friction - and is gradual - moulting.


In other words, in the first you end up with a pile of little bits, the 
second the thread is worn out gradually.


Neither describes the problem caused by threads unspinning - where you 
start with fibres about 1.5 inches long twisted together to form a 
thread - take the twist away and the fibres separate, and part company 
very easily - hence a broken thread.


Snapping is when you pull on a thread too hard, and cause the thread to 
break - not necessarily parting the individual fibres. This can be due 
to the thread being too weak for the tension put on it (due to a variety 
of causes) or heavy-handedness on the part of the lacemaker. The causes 
of the thread being weaker than it should be can include shedding fibres 
and shredding.


Over the years, the reasons why my threads have broken have been down to 
either too much tension for the thread, weakness in the thread probably 
due to dryness - both snapping - and unspinning. Occasionally stabbing 
the thread with a pin hasn't helped!  I haven't had any of these caused 
by wear of the thread against the cloths.


Bobbins - I use either Midland or Honiton on either a domed or block 
pillow, and work palms down.

--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] horsehoe thread lifter

2010-02-25 Thread Alice Howell
I attended a class one time where we were told we needed a horseshoe type tool. 
 We had not been told in advance.  Some of the people made a quick purchase the 
first evening of some 1/4 inch plastic tubing and some pipecleaners.Cut 
10-12 inches of tubing and 2-3 inches of pipecleaner.  Use the pipecleaner 
inside the tube ends to hold them together.  Instantlya closed circle that 
can easily be opened to move or remove.  Lifts the threads up  a fair distance 
so don't make the circle too small.

I didn't know of the tubing idea at that time.  My roommate had one of the 
horseshoes so I traced it on the lid of a food container and cut out a 
horseshoe shape.  I left the outside rim and just trimmed the inside to shape.  
It wasn't fancy but it worked for it's purpose.

Don't know about shredding threads, but I didn't have the problem when I used 
these tools.  The threads are lifted above the area of both the pinheads and 
workcloth edges.  Any shredding would have to be from other causes.

I later got a horseshoe and the tubing circle.  I prefer the tubing which gives 
a closed circle.

Alice in Oregon -- where I must do some house chores.  Spent the past two days 
just making lace and ignoring the chores.



- Original Message 
From: Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com
  I wonder what experience others have had using the plastic green 'horseshoe' 
intended to raise threads a bit to avoid catching on exposed pins?  I confess I 
own one but have never used it. Has anyone found that it helps with the 
shredding problem?

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[lace] Re:horsehoe thread lifter

2010-02-25 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
 Alice in Oregon -- where I must do some house chores.  Spent the past
two
 days just making lace and ignoring the chores.

And that is a good thing!  Lace forever, housework
whenever! :-D

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman in Illinois (who
hasn't had the chance to lace for a while.  Too busy making costumes
for the HS musical)

website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog:
http://tatmantats.wordpress.com
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Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-25 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I agree with Jane.  To me shredding means the thread disintegrating due to 
friction , snapping is a sudden breakage caused by too much tension, either 
heavy handedness or a weak thread and feathering is the thread just pulling 
apart, usually because it has become untwisted.

I don't usually have too much of a problem with any of these but the current 
project has been a trial - mainly because I started it using a one ply weaving 
linen!  Where the thread has held together it looks fine, but even with making 
an effort to keep the threads twisted I had half a dozen feathering breaks in 
about three inches of lace and I couldn't pull hard enough to tension the 
spiders properly and so I gave up and started again using Moravia 40/2.  
Problem solved.  I had a similar problem when I tried to use Shetland wool 
singles yarn for BL.

I'm using  a novelty metallic thread for the gimps and outside passive pair.  
It's a chained thread with added bits of glitter, a bit like metallic chenille. 
 I have to tug it pretty hard to tension it but no problems other than the fact 
that at the end of each session there are several tiny pieces of the glitter 
fibre on the pillow caused by friction (shredding), but no breakages.

Brenda 

 I'm wondering if there are several problems being discussed and the 
 description meaning different things to different people!

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-25 Thread cearbhael
Thanks for the support. I replied to a few people and unfortunately most of
them, it seems, went private due to me forgetting that I have to hit reply
ALL not just reply when I send. If anyone wishes to share their reply with
the group.please feel free to do so.

 

Cearbhael

 

 

 

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From: Norma Harris [mailto:nrm_h...@yahoo.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM
To: 'Avital'; 'Arachne.com'; cearbh...@mywdo.com
Subject: RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

 


I'm another who is enjoying the lace shawl discussion and hope it will
continue here.  Haven't decided on my next lace shawl, but an leaning much.
Thanks,
Norma (in VA)

http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
NATA #847
Your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have.

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RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-25 Thread cearbhael
I am still waiting to get the Estonian Lace Shawls book. I have a pattern or
two of Nancy Bush's that I found in Piecework magazine and out of another
knitted lace book. The book is on my wish list at Amazon LOL...

Cearbhael

Me too! Especially as I was given Nancy Bush's Estonian Lace Shawls book 
for Christmas

Sue 

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RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-25 Thread Sue
When my mother was still with us, every time there was a new baby expected
in the family she would knit a shawl called The Tree of Life it is a
beautiful pattern and I lost count of how many she had knitted.  When she
passed away my youngest son and his wife has just got married and when they
were expecting their first child my DIL was quite upset because she would
not get a shawl like all the others for their babies, luckily I had kept
some of mums knitting patterns (the ones that had memories mainly) so I took
on the mantle of new baby shawl knitter I am so glad that there have not
been too many babies since that time because it is extremely time consuming,
but satisfying.
If you want to see the pattern it is on  webshots if anybody wants any
further information please contact me privately

Sue M Harvey
NorfolkUK

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Re: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-25 Thread Clay Blackwell

Hi Sue -

I tried to see your shawl on the webshots site, and although I found 
your file, there wasn't a picture of the shawl in it.  Did I do 
something wrong?


Clay

On 2/25/2010 6:37 PM, Sue wrote:

When my mother was still with us, every time there was a new baby expected
in the family she would knit a shawl called The Tree of Life it is a
beautiful pattern and I lost count of how many she had knitted.  When she
passed away my youngest son and his wife has just got married and when they
were expecting their first child my DIL was quite upset because she would
not get a shawl like all the others for their babies, luckily I had kept
some of mums knitting patterns (the ones that had memories mainly) so I took
on the mantle of new baby shawl knitter I am so glad that there have not
been too many babies since that time because it is extremely time consuming,
but satisfying.
If you want to see the pattern it is on  webshots if anybody wants any
further information please contact me privately

Sue M Harvey
NorfolkUK

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[lace-chat] UK Shonky Deal

2010-02-25 Thread Jean Nathan
I've just downloaded my emails and among them is an email supposedly from a 
solicitor in London saying that I'm due to receive $3,000,000 from a 
relative who died in 2002. All I have to do is sent my personal details and 
they'll wire it to my bank account. Yeah, right!


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Tech-challenged seniors

2010-02-25 Thread Tamara P Duvall

Been there, done that... at least for part of the way :)


From: R.P.


I thought about the 30 year business I ran with 1,800 employees, all 
without a Blackberry that played music, took videos, pictures and 
communicated with Facebook and Twitter.  I signed up under duress for 
Twitter and Facebook, so my seven kids, their spouses, 13 grandkids and 
2 great grand kids could communicate with me in the modern way.  I 
figured I could handle something as simple as Twitter with only 140 
characters of space.  That was before one of my grandkids hooked me up 
for Tweeter, Tweetree, Twhirl, Twitterfon, Tweetie and Twittererific 
Tweetdeck, Twitpix and something that sends every message to my cell 
phone and every other

program within the texting world.

My phone was beeping every three minutes with the details of everything 
except the bowel movements of the entire next generation.  I am not 
ready to live like this.  I keep my cell phone in the garage in my golf 
bag.


The kids bought me a GPS for my last birthday because they say I get 
lost every now and then going over to the grocery store or library.  I 
keep that in a box under my tool bench with the Blue tooth [Blue tooth 
but it's red] phone I am supposed to use when I drive.  I wore it once 
and was standing in line at Barnes and Noble talking to my wife as 
everyone in the nearest 50 yards was glaring at me. Seems I have to 
take my hearing aid out to use it and I got a little loud.


I mean the GPS looked pretty smart on my dash board, but the lady 
inside was the most annoying, rudest person I had run into in a long 
time.  Every 10 minutes, she would sarcastically say, 
Re-cal-cu-lating.  You would think that she could be nicer.  It was 
like she could barely tolerate me.  She would let go with a deep sigh 
and then tell me to make a U-turn at the next light. Then when I would 
make a right turn instead, it was not good.


When I get really lost now, I call my wife and tell her the name of the 
cross streets and while she is starting to develop the same tone as 
Gypsy, the GPS lady, at least she loves me (after 50+ years I certainly 
hope so).


To be perfectly frank, I am still trying to learn how to use the 
cordless phones in our house. We have had them for 4 years, but I still 
haven't figured out how I can lose three phones all at once and have to 
run around digging under chair cushions and checking bathrooms and the 
dirty laundry baskets when the phone rings.  It was a lot easier when 
it was connected to a cord (for the kids out there reading this, yes, 
there used to be a cord attached to the phone - and we only had one 
phone in the house!  I won't even go into party lines but older folks 
know what I'm talking about).


The world is just getting too complex for me. They even mess me up 
every time I go to the grocery store. You would think they could settle 
on something themselves but this sudden Paper or Plastic? every time 
I check out just knocks me for a loop.  I bought some of those cloth 
reusable bags to avoid looking confused but I never remember to take 
them in with me. Now, I toss it back to them. When they ask me, Paper 
or Plastic?  I just say, Doesn't matter to me. I am bi-sacksual.


Then it's their turn to stare at me with a blank look.

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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