Re: [lace] Left- or Right-handed Stitching
jeria...@aol.com wrote: There is usually a very slight slant to the finished result, so an expert should be able to see whether right- or left-handed stitching was done. I'd like to throw a complication into this discussion. There are several common ways for lefties to write. Some hold the pen like a rightie (except in the other hand) and "push" the pen across the paper. Some twist the wrist so the hand is below where they're writing. A third method is to twist the wrist the other way, so the hand is somewhat above the writing. Finally, there's twisting the wrist so far over the top of where you're writing that you get the pen into almost the same position (relative to the paper) as a rightie and pull it across the paper like a rightie. The different hand positions produce different styles of left-handed writing. Similarly, there are several ways to embroider with the left hand. Some stitches I reverse completely, like in the book that started this discussion. Sometimes I hold the fabric upside down so the stitches come out right-to-left but I did them upside down. Sometimes I turn the fabric sideways so I can stitch upward/downward instead of side-to-side. And sometimes I just couldn't work out how to reverse or turn sideways or turn upside down, and I just follow the stitch diagram (backwards for me); this will come out pretty close to right-handed. Each of these methods probably produces a different "left-handed" embroidery style. Then there's the issue of using a hoop and doing stick-and-stab instead of a sewing motion. The neede goes through the fabric straight up-and-down. Robin Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com > Yvette Stanton's "The Left-Handed Embroiderer's Companion - A Step-by-Step > Stitch Dictionary", published by Vetty Creations in 2010, 978-0-9757677-3-3, > PB. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity
dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: I find it rather discouraging that the children are not interested in bobbin lace and the adults say it is "too tedious". Is there some way we could demonstrate bobbin lace that would not provoke the "tedious" response? When someone ask if it's tedious, I say, "I do this for fun--by definition, it's not tedious." WHen they say it must take patience, I say, "I have no patience. I don't do things that take patience." If they say it's too hard to see, I tell them about my friend who is blind and makes lovely bobbin lace. I like to bring a wide (50 pr) torchon piece to demonstrate. Then when they say it's too complicated, I show them how, no matter how many pairs on are the pillow, I only use 2 pairs at a time; I point out the pinholes on the pattern; the next pinhole that needs working is the one farthest from me; there's a pair coming from above-left and another pair coming from above-right to meet at that pinhole; then I show them how simple cross and twist are. Whenever I demonstrate bobbin lace, there are always kids who are fascinated. I try to always have a "try it" pillow and talk them through a basic pattern. There's almost always at least one who wants to spend the rest of the afternoon at the try-it pillow. I've also had adults pull up a chair so they can watch me longer and more carefully. So yes, there is a lot of apathy out there, but there's still interest. There are men (generally engineers) who are quite intrigued but are unwilling to do "sissy work". There are women that, no matter how hard I cajole, refuse to try the try-it pillow because "I'll just mess it up". But there are women who ask for class information, too. And there are kids who get their parents to start taking them to lace meetings and lace classes. Robin Dusting is tedious; making lace is engrossing! Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
I second what Clay says, and make sure you do a tatted version as well! LOL Lauren Clay Blackwell wrote: Having read the other positive comments, Mark... I suggest you scout around for a t-shirt printer, and put yourself into the business... Bethesda awaits you!! Clay On 8/11/2010 11:00 AM, Tatman wrote: These slogans have conjured up a picture for me. So I had to draw it up and share with you. :) Would be nice on a T-shirt! http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3065 - Release Date: 08/11/10 11:34:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
Having read the other positive comments, Mark... I suggest you scout around for a t-shirt printer, and put yourself into the business... Bethesda awaits you!! Clay On 8/11/2010 11:00 AM, Tatman wrote: These slogans have conjured up a picture for me. So I had to draw it up and share with you. :) Would be nice on a T-shirt! http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
Very nice Mark! Clay On 8/11/2010 11:00 AM, Tatman wrote: These slogans have conjured up a picture for me. So I had to draw it up and share with you. :) Would be nice on a T-shirt! http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
Love It!!! - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:00:41 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread These slogans have conjured up a picture for me. So I had to draw it up and share with you. :) Would be nice on a T-shirt! http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] yoga in thread
Mark I love the drawing - need the t-shirt Robin from Canberra - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Fiber familiarity
Hi all-
Years ago, after spending an entire morning retro-lacing a wide Flanders piece
only to discover that I hadn't made a mistake in the first place, I was
surprised to realize that I wasn't upset about all of the wasted time. I
learned more about how to look at the pattern. It occurred to me at that
point that bobbin lace was "Yoga for the Brain" and I've thought of it that
way ever since.
I love the engineering aspect of the traveling of the lace threads and the
weaving process itself (most days). For a recent talk on lace, I worked up a
strip of about 5 different Milanese tapes to demonstrate how you could take
the same 14 threads and produce a variety of effects. ("See, you have the
same dance steps but you change who's dancing with whom and where they twist
and presto! a different pattern.") I love creating something that is so
unlike other fiber arts. The "ingredients" are a draw too--the threads and
bobbins.
I have been thinking about the IOLI's endeavors to attract younger lacers (a
dance organization I work also wants to get more young people involved!--seems
to be a common theme for many groups), but I was struck by how many of the
women I met at the recent IOLI convention had been making lace 10 years or
less--many of them beginning in retirement. I wonder if we shouldn't also be
trying to insert ourselves in the "getting ready for retirement" seminars.
;~)
I agree that we should have photos or examples of modern pieces of lace at
demonstration events to help lure/attract more to lace classes.
And, speaking of the convention, I'll add my congratulations and thanks to the
Portland gang for a great event. It was nice to add a few more faces to names
at the Arachne lunch (including the seemingly tireless Alice Howell) and at a
few of the other events.
regards,
Lorraine Weiss
Albany, NY
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Re: [lace] Re: Fiber Familiarity
From: Tatman ..the pins and pricking are the music score.. I have often used this analogy when an observer tells me they could never learn to make lace. I ask, "Can you read music? If they say yes, then I tell them the pricking is like musical notation and you simply learn to interpret it as when reading music. I, too, am enjoying this thread. I'm also one of those who is more process oriented than product oriented. I love the learning and the problem solving. I'm a detail person and lacemaking definitely appeals to that bent. Vicki in steamy Maryland where we are still setting records for heat (A thermometer we have registered 104F yesterday!) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
Mark, I love the drawing and I think it would be great on a T-shirt or on a cover cloth. Liz Raleigh, NC, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
I love it! Devon In a message dated 8/11/2010 5:08:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tat...@tat-man.net writes: http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Left- or Right-handed Stitching
The subject is about stitches done with a needle with an eye. Absent a stitch diagram, a embroidery teacher will often ask a leftie to sit *opposite* a rightie, to replicate the stitching rather than spend an inordinate amount of classroom time teaching left-handed techniques. The purpose of the new book is to provide left-handed persons with reversed diagrams. Otherwise, why a special book? Yvette Stanton gives, after several pictured diagrams of each step of a stitch to be worked by a left-handed person, one diagram of how the finished example is worked by a right-handed person. The needle points in the opposite direction because it is worked from the opposite direction. There is usually a very slight slant to the finished result, so an expert should be able to see whether right- or left-handed stitching was done. In cases where antique embroidery on a fabric base has been picked apart to understand how it was made, an expert can tell by the slant of a needle through layers of fabric the direction in which the stitcher was working. I have not tried unpicking needlelace, but it should hold true. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - In a message dated 8/9/2010 6:57:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, margerybu...@o2.co.uk writes: I'm intrigued. Will the lace or embroidery made by a left-handed worker be identifiable as such, once finished? And will this enable the maker to be more nearly identified? I'm imagining future textile experts saying "well, this was made by a left-handed person in the early 21st century, and we know of only a few of those ..." Margery. -- > On Behalf Of jeria...@aol.com > Sent: Monday 09 August 2010 18:46 > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Book Review for Left-handed Stitchers > > Yvette Stanton's "The Left-Handed Embroiderer's Companion - A > Step-by-Step > Stitch Dictionary", published by Vetty Creations in 2010, > 978-0-9757677-3-3, PB. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] yoga
Mark: that is wonderful. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Fiber Familiarity
What a truly lovely simile. lrb -Original Message- >From: Tatman >Sent: Aug 11, 2010 9:25 AM >To: Lace list >Subject: [lace] Re: Fiber Familiarity > >I really am enjoying this conversation. And Devon's slogans are clever. >Some are downright funny. ;) > >I am a puzzle solver and find that BL is a puzzle to solve at times. If it >is in repetition then it is more zen like. I like the movement of the >fingers and clicking of the bobbins. It is like the lacer is the conductor, >the bobbins are the instruments, the pins and pricking are the music score >and the lace that abounds out from it the music of a siren(Greek mythology). > >-- >Mark, aka Tatman >website: http://www.tat-man.net >blog: http://tat-man.net/blog >Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html >email: tat...@tat-man.net >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats > > > >On 8/10/10 3:16 PM, "dmt11h...@aol.com" wrote: > >> In a message dated 8/10/2010 4:04:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> lhal...@bytemeusa.com writes: >> >> As for me, not only is it the puzzle solving aspect, but I find the actual >> working has an effect on my emotions. It is soothing and satisfying in a >> way >> that is hard to describe. The movements are hypnotic. >> >> >> So, we are really finding altered consciousness when we do this. Like zen, >> or using mind altering substances. >> >> Bobbin Lace: Tripping out, but legal >> Bobbin Lace: Better than Glue Sniffing >> Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Blows your Mind > >- >To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Fiber Familiarity
Someone wrote: Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Blows your Mind I would prefer to say: Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Expands MY Mind which gives it the personal touch. Pene in Tartu, Estonia who is a little stiff from picking up lots of tree sticks yesterday after the severe storm we experienced on Sunday. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Fiber Familarity
Hiya all, I like to do all kinds of things. I am not a couch potatoe. I more exercise than changing a channel on the TV Clicker. More of my body gets exercise than my eye balls just glancing at a TV screen. My life is short...and I want to do and make and learn as much as I can. I have all kinds of things around my house that shows a bit of what I did with my life. Sitting and watching TV for hours doesn't show anything of what I did with my time...but a few tatted doilies here, a few bobbinlace things there, a bit of knitting hanging in my closet, ceramic paintings sitting about, Embroidered pictures on the wall, all show what I have done in my life. The comment I hear alot from people is...I don't have the patience for it...to me all the stuff I do with my brain and my hands is called threapy. While I am concentrating on what I am making or doing...I am not thinking of all my problems...I escape from the world...and find I am very relaxed in my own world of figuring out the puzzle. When I am finished with something I am like Yeah...I am done...and ohI like it...and oh...what can I do next. It is kinda funny for me for all the stuff I do because nobody else in the family does this stuff with their hands. I think it all started when I was young coloring in a coloring books or drawing on a piece of paper and loving art. For me making lace is taking something that is so beautiful to the eye and making it yourself. That is why I learn how to tat and bobbinlace and so on...I saw it ...I wanted it...and I figured the only way I was going to get it was to figure out how to make it myself so I can have all the pretties in the world. Yesterday...I was rearranging things in my livingroom and in my livingroom there is a big box of pictures from different lace and tatting events I have been to over the years...I spent hours sitting there and reminesing in my brain of all the fun time memories those pictures invoked. I have tons of pictures. I was thinking of even scanning and uploading some of the pictures to my blog for "A Blast From the Past". My crafts that I do have allowed me to meet alot of interesting people over the years...and it is great to get to know people and put a face to the name. What is also great is to be in a room with like minded people...or even better in a room with like minded people with all the vending to continue making all the tatting, laces and knitting and so on until the day I either can't do it anymore ( health won't let me) or the day I die. My crafting is me...PERIOD. I would be lost without it. The world would become dark and very boring. I have kidded with my family for years that my tombstone will say same day..."She never sat and did nothing". Sorry I have gone on and onbut I love lace of all kinds. I wanted to share with you all. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Fiber Familiarity
Dangerously seductive... On , Tatman wrote: It is like the lacer is the conductor, > the bobbins are the instruments, the pins and pricking are the music score > and the lace that abounds out from it the music of a siren(Greek > mythology). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
These slogans have conjured up a picture for me. So I had to draw it up and share with you. :) Would be nice on a T-shirt! http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: Fiber Familiarity
I really am enjoying this conversation. And Devon's slogans are clever. Some are downright funny. ;) I am a puzzle solver and find that BL is a puzzle to solve at times. If it is in repetition then it is more zen like. I like the movement of the fingers and clicking of the bobbins. It is like the lacer is the conductor, the bobbins are the instruments, the pins and pricking are the music score and the lace that abounds out from it the music of a siren(Greek mythology). -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats On 8/10/10 3:16 PM, "dmt11h...@aol.com" wrote: > In a message dated 8/10/2010 4:04:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lhal...@bytemeusa.com writes: > > As for me, not only is it the puzzle solving aspect, but I find the actual > working has an effect on my emotions. It is soothing and satisfying in a > way > that is hard to describe. The movements are hypnotic. > > > So, we are really finding altered consciousness when we do this. Like zen, > or using mind altering substances. > > Bobbin Lace: Tripping out, but legal > Bobbin Lace: Better than Glue Sniffing > Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Blows your Mind - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity
Hello All, all those remarks you mentioned you could hear in Germany too. It depends on what place and in what time of the year one does demonstrating. Beside these remarks I often heard positive ones but can't say for sure which more which less. All this doesn't bother me because each of us is an own character. I show, I explain and I try to give all those peoples something to think about. What happened later when they are back at home we mostly never find out. Why do I like bobbin lace making or embroidery or pottery or photographing to be honest first I had to think about. I like to do something with my hands. I prefer lacemaking because, after a learning period, I could do things I design, I like the wooden things in my hands and their lovely noise in my ears, it is a nice feeling having "produced" something own. Another wonderful effects of this doing is that after a while all problems go out of the door (for a while) and so it is relaxing poor. And last but not least, I like to show other people how to make such things, how to find out how to design an own idea, to look what color what stitches will fit. And I like to find out about all those people making lace a long time before us, how lace was used and so on, and so on... Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
