[lace] In Praise of Antique Lace Bobbin Makers
I have got that out of my system this afternoon, perhaps a few minor changes if and when I review it. I have it in PDF form 340KB and if you want to read my prattle I will send it to you. Drop me a note. PS. I write mostly for myself, to sort out my thoughts and feelings about a topic. To discover just how much I know or do not know about a topic. If it seems to work I offer it around. From Brian and Jean Cooranbong. Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Copyright etc.
I'm with Brian. When I first thought about starting bobbin lace, I asked a lacemaker for a pricking of a Springett snake. She (probably quite rightly) said no, it was copyrighted. But it seemed a bit tough to me at the time. I didn't want a copy of the whole book, just the famous "snake", which is ideal for a beginner to get the hang of cross and twist, and is often used on "try me" pillows at demonstrations. We were at a demonstration at the time - she on bobbin lace, I was tatting, before I had even started bobbin lace. Several years later, I of course bought copies of the Springett books, and have since shared the snake pricking with several others, who in turn have gone on to purchase the books. Had I not shared the snake pricking with them, they may not have known about the books, and how good they are. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au > Enjoy your hobby and get rid of the huge guilt that commercial enterprises > place upon us. > I know I am opening myself to a wave of criticism, I even admit proudly to > having done my Masters degree in Ethics! > From Brian > Cooranbong. Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Copywrite and cartoon bobbins.
I have a pair of your painted Celtic bobbins, Sherry - I love them, they are in use most of the time. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au > I only paint bobbins now when I feel like it. When I use to paint bobbins to > sell (Mostly Celtic Themed) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] RE: bobbin makers
Hello List, I am compiling this thread into a spreadsheet broken into turners and decorators to give a more complete single list - would you like me to put it online once it is 'done'? Jenny B Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bobbin Makers
I am about to write an essay "In Praise of Antique Bobbin Makers". It was inspired by this thread (No... you makers are not antiques!) I just thought that the information on this thread will be really valuable valuable for the "Springetts" of 100 years time. There is a wealth of practical art on you pillows that someone will sure want to study in the future. I notice one correspondent said that she had the "first" pair of bobbin a particular maker created. Merrilyn Finlay (West Australia) has my first pair... they were more like pokers than bobbins, I tried to get them back off her, but NO she would hold me to ransom at some future date. :( From Brian and Jean Cooranbong. Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] RE:bobbin makers
Re Valerie Dunsmore I had a bit of correspondence with her on her technique, in fact I believe I asked her if she would mind if I did a few bobbins that way. It ended up she was teaching some one else. I did make a couple for myself which I am sure I must have given away. It is hard yakka (as we say in Australia) I can understand why she gave up.. I think because of Arthritis in her hands or some thing (I apologies if I have it wrong...) but they are fantastic creations. Love them. - Original Message - From: "Helen Bell" To: Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 1:09 AM Subject: [lace] RE:bobbin makers Valerie Dunsmore (Australia). She did the wound thread bobbins in plaids and the like. Very cool. I have a lavender one of hers. Peggy Kirkus, from Colorado, used to decorate and maybe turn her own bobbins. It's been many years since I saw her last or have seen one of her bobbins, but she did some commemoratives I think for the RMLG one year. This is a fun thread - it's making me 'play' with my bobbins in a different way (and I have a lot on 2 pillows at the moment) :-) Helen, in sunny Duvall, WA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5496 (20101001) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Copyright etc.
I do not think that Sherry should have even thought to offer a long and explanatory apology/explanation about her cartoon characters. I think we all get far too worked up about copyright, and blatant money making from someone else's work is clearly wrong; but serious copyright breakers have very simple means to get around copyright and still look as if it is the real thing. We are just innocents in this game. We are all made to feel so guilty about this copyright issue that we dare not breathe without thinking of potential issues involved. I make amateur movies.. shown only to say 30 or 40 club members one evening a month, they vary between three and 15 minutes depending on the competition that night (no prizes except a certificate) The last time I went to pay a fee for use of a commercial piece of music for a 3 minute 30 secs film I was quoted $350 (AUD). I used the piece and did not pay the royalty. I felt comfortable with my choice, I thought the fee was exploitative, had they quoted me $50 Aud I would have paid up. I think we have to be comfortable with the choices we make regard to copyright, and in turn we should not be exploitative in what we do with other people creations, but "one for yourself and not make any money from it" seems OK by me and does not require any apology. Let people think what they like about you... if you are OK with your decisions... go with them. Enjoy your hobby and get rid of the huge guilt that commercial enterprises place upon us. I know I am opening myself to a wave of criticism, I even admit proudly to having done my Masters degree in Ethics! Over to you. From Brian Cooranbong. Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] bobbin makers and painters
Thanks everyone, especially Bobbi D. for the help in identifying my bobbin painter and maker. They are indeed the Gates [Shirley and hubby] work. They are too gorgeous to use - but I do use them. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Flexible people don't get bent out of shape. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Copywrite and cartoon bobbins.
I just received an email about cartoon characters being copy writed and to be careful. I know the cartoon characters are copywited. I just want to state that I do not sell these bobbins...so there is no profit in me painting them. I only painted what you see in the picture on my website under the bobbinlace page. They were all for my own use. I was taking a class on Russian Lace Making and I had I don't know how many bobbins right now "Plain Jane" unattractive bobbins. I wanted to paint something on them...and I wanted the bobbins to all go together sorta speak. So I just sat and painted cartoon characters on them. I only paint bobbins now when I feel like it. When I use to paint bobbins to sell (Mostly Celtic Themed) I decided it wasn't worth the money for me to sit at my table for hours on end and putting a kink in my neck and back painting bobbins for sale. So I don't do it any more. I have painted bobibns for a few different lace day events. And now I haven't painted a bobbin in months. Halloween is coming and I have been thinking of painting a bobbin for Halloween for myself. But really the cartoon bobbins were for me...they weren't sold and I have had pictures of those bobbins on my website for almost 10 years. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Aussie bobbin makers
Hi All, I will also vouch for Max Meier's bobbins. They are lovely and have a great feel as I work with them whether they be the midlands, or the midland travel bobbins. I was pleased to meet Max in 2003. Marvelous person and his wife, Shirley is a special friend. Susie Susie Johnson Morris, IL 815-942-1838 http://home.comcast.net/~cjohnson0969/home.html cjohnson0...@comcast.net At 01:42 PM 1/10/2010, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: >Some more Aussie bobbin makers, - besides John Beswick, are:- > >Leon Young (our first one , I think!) >Max Meier >Neil Keats, >Bill Lafferty, >?? Gesaitis, (Judy's husband) >Malcolm Fielding And let's never forget dear old Len Purcell, now deceased. I have quite a number of his bobbins and love them dearly. Sorry I forgot to mention Max Meier earlier. His bobbins are stunning as well - so fine and slim with wonderful looong necks. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Blog update MP
More Palmetto pictures and Romanian Point Lace Cording. I finally figured it out left handed. Sometime soon I will put pictures and video clip of how tos on my blog and website when I can get that figured out also. Also if you visit my website you will see cartoon bobbins I painted on continetal bobbins for a Russian Lace class that I took. I painted the bobbins for my own use. I have also given away a couple of them. One was Betty Boop and the other was Taz and Buz Bunny. I anybody is interested in seeing these bobbins for themselves I could bring them to Ithaca Lace Days Columbus weekend. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbin makers
Thanks, Eve, for adding Mr. Gates first name!! He is definitely the one, and they are wonderful bobbins. Thanks also for the additional names! Clay On 10/1/2010 8:57 AM, Eve Morton wrote: I believe they were made by Harry Gates, Shirley's husband. I am also enjoying this thread. To add more names to the list, I also have bobbins made by: John Platt, wood and bone, UK (now deceased) Richard Ives, wood, UK Geoff Mudge, wood and bone, UK Loricraft, wood painted with floral designs, UK (retired) Tom Chip of Extreme Woodturning, UK (don't know if it is his real name!) Jean Turner UK Also bobbin painters: Jan Gardiner of Lacewing UK Cheryl Blackham, who has painted The Lace Guild's commemorative bobbins, UK Eve Poole, Dorset, UK http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bobbin Makers and Painters
I originally posted this to lace-chat, but Janice Blair suggested I really meant to it post to lace, so here goes.. Yes, a very interesting thread as I am seeing names very new to me. Who remembers Harvey Helmke? Carolyn Gritzmaker? or Diane Miller? Harvey was the king of rings and his finish was silky smooth. He also made beautiful embroidery tools. Sadly he passed away about 10 years ago. Carolyn was very creative. She once carved a small, closed hand for the bobbin tail as a thank you for 'a helping hand'. Carolyn retired about 15 years ago. And Diane was another painter of delicate flowers. Diane moved from her cottage in the watercress fields and seems to have dropped out of sight. Judy in beautiful Houston, TX - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Lace Day
I was just reminded that today, October 1st is National Lacemaking Day in the US. I did my celebrating without realising it as I just ate a delicious chocolate gooey brownie for lunch and earlier I copied a pricking and have put it on my pillow to start working asap. It is a Christmas ornament as I realised I needed to make one for my British club craft and bake sale in November. We auction items for charity and my lace usually brings the highest price of the evening. I will be away in November so must get it done before our October meeting so I can give it to the President for later. Happy National Lace Day Janice p.s. Anyone in the world can celebrate - who doesn't like lace and chocolate. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] bobbin makers - Mary Niven
I think you'll find that this was painted by Barry Biggins - I have a commemorative one from one of the John Bull Competitions organised by Sue Cox of the English Lace School. Barry and his wife Caroline are both qualified art teachers and Barry designs Honiton lace while Caroline makes it (exquisitely). I got this info from their book - 'New Patterns in Honiton Lace' which was published in 1993. Liz Pass In Poole Dorset - still very damp. -Original Message- Subject: Re: [lace] bobbin makers - Mary Niven And while we are on this subject does anybody know who painted this bobbin? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170542550799&ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] bobbin makers and painters
With all the bobbin makers and painters on people's minds, perhaps someone can tell me the name of the painter who did those exquisite orchids and flowers on bobbins. I cannot make out the initials and the mind has forgotten the name. I believe the lady retired 6 or so years ago. Maureen Benda used to sell this lady's bobbins. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Flexible people don't get bent out of shape. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: bobbin makers
I am sure the makers of most of my bobbins have been mentioned. I don't have them cataloged or ID to know who made what bobbin, unfortunately, shame on me. But I do have a few bobbins made by a friend of mine who does the same heritage reenactments we do. He is an excellent wood carver and wanted to try turning some bobbins. So I gave him a pattern shape to go by and he did just fine. His work isn't well finished as some of the expert makers, but his bobbins are quite usable(and I have used them). A bit on the clunky sidewe will call them thumpers. One of my precious bobbins he gave me was a George Washington bobbin(as he calls it). That is, it is off a fallen limb of one of the historical trees from the Mt. Vernon property(or might be from Washington's boyhood home, can't remember him telling me). It is a tiny bobbin(still chunky though!) and the wood is yellowish in color(sugar maple???) I can't completely authenticate this. It is just what he has told me. He has made a couple of these. My wood carving friend also was a dear friend of my bobbin lace teacher who did the same reenactments. She told him that his bobbins weren't quite up to snuff and that he needs to keep trying to finish them better. Threads might snag on them. They constantly would nudge each other with wry comments. What are friends for?! Of course her husband made all her bobbins and they were exquisitely made and tailored just for her. She was spoiled by her husband's bobbins. I happen to be lucky to own two pair that she let me have. Great for doing tallies and sewings. The bobbins my friend makes will be bobbins that I always will know who made them because they are uniquely his work and he is a friend of mine and will be a momento from him. -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Aussie bobbin makers
At 01:42 PM 1/10/2010, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: Some more Aussie bobbin makers, - besides John Beswick, are:- Leon Young (our first one , I think!) Max Meier Neil Keats, Bill Lafferty, ?? Gesaitis, (Judy's husband) Malcolm Fielding And let's never forget dear old Len Purcell, now deceased. I have quite a number of his bobbins and love them dearly. Sorry I forgot to mention Max Meier earlier. His bobbins are stunning as well - so fine and slim with wonderful looong necks. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] another bobbin maker US
Dear Friends Does anyone know what became of Maeve de Hetre (later Brown)? She once made me a beautiful pair of bobbins in porcelain which she hand painted superbly with Australian galahs (birds). Alas they are now both broken. I last heard of Maeve in Florida about 5 years (or perhaps more) ago. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers
"Margot Walker wrote ...Anton Nahorny (who died a number of years ago), Wray Barton and Gary Wood. The latter two may have retired." Wray Barton and his wife Marjorie lived on Vancouver Island, then they moved across country to the Annapolis Valley. Marjorie and I were quite good friends at the time. Then I got a call from her saying that they were moving to the Azores - they had bought a farm. Since that day I have heard nothing more from them. I have quite a lot of Wray's bobbins including some painted ones - there was a lady who painted them for the Bartons. I have one lovely one with a scene of a hillside with sheep and a sheepdog. Malvary in Ottawa where retro lacing has stopped and forward lacing is now well underway again. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] bobbin makers
Hi All, And the name Shirley Gates suddenly rang a bell for me. Is Gates the person who had such beautifully turned colorful spliced bobbins? I know the bobbins I'm referring to weren't done by Malcolm Thorpe (who should be added to the list). I believe they were made by Harry Gates, Shirley's husband. I am also enjoying this thread. To add more names to the list, I also have bobbins made by: John Platt, wood and bone, UK (now deceased) Richard Ives, wood, UK Geoff Mudge, wood and bone, UK Loricraft, wood painted with floral designs, UK (retired) Tom Chip of Extreme Woodturning, UK (don't know if it is his real name!) Jean Turner UK Also bobbin painters: Jan Gardiner of Lacewing UK Cheryl Blackham, who has painted The Lace Guild's commemorative bobbins, UK Eve Poole, Dorset, UK http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers
I have to agree with you 100%!! Her painting just boggles my mind!! I don't have many of them, but the ones I have are precious to me. Clay IMHO, Janet Retter (England) is the best bobbin painter in the universe! I have 39 of her bobbins - 28 of which I commissioned and which I call "My World Travels". Every time I visit a country that I haven't seen before, I send her a picture which she paints on the bobbin and also paints the bottom bead as a globe with the name of the country written on it. I love using those bobbins because they bring back so many memories. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers
Hi I would like to add Richard Pikul of Toronto,another Canadian bobbin maker. Joan in Stayner Ontario On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Margot Walker wrote: > > Simon Toustou is the only Canadian bobbin maker mentioned so far. I'd like > to add three more names: Anton Nahorny (who died a number of years ago), > Wray Barton and Gary Wood. The latter two may have retired. > > My favourite bobbins were made by John Pollard (the Australian bobbin maker > who was mentioned earlier) and Jack Smith (who lives in north Wales and has > retired). > > IMHO, Janet Retter (England) is the best bobbin painter in the universe! I > have 39 of her bobbins - 28 of which I commissioned and which I call "My > World Travels". Every time I visit a country that I haven't seen before, I > send her a picture which she paints on the bobbin and also paints the bottom > bead as a globe with the name of the country written on it. I love using > those bobbins because they bring back so many memories. > > Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada > Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: > http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bobbin makers
Simon Toustou is the only Canadian bobbin maker mentioned so far. I'd like to add three more names: Anton Nahorny (who died a number of years ago), Wray Barton and Gary Wood. The latter two may have retired. My favourite bobbins were made by John Pollard (the Australian bobbin maker who was mentioned earlier) and Jack Smith (who lives in north Wales and has retired). IMHO, Janet Retter (England) is the best bobbin painter in the universe! I have 39 of her bobbins - 28 of which I commissioned and which I call "My World Travels". Every time I visit a country that I haven't seen before, I send her a picture which she paints on the bobbin and also paints the bottom bead as a globe with the name of the country written on it. I love using those bobbins because they bring back so many memories. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bobbin makers
Thanks for this nice list, Janice! Except for Mike Bester, I am not familiar with any of them! All the more reason to set up a website! I have access to web space, and I will be seeing someone tomorrow (I hope...) to discuss the feasibility of setting up a website of my own, and if it's possible, I'd love to create a catalog of modern bobbins, identifying makers from all over the world! With Arachne as a resource, this would be a lot of fun! Clay On 9/30/2010 3:07 PM, Janis Savage wrote: Hello all Some more South African bobbin makers are Mike Bester - Western Cape Harry Hughes - Johannesburg, much saught after fine midlands bobbins, sadly now deceases. Mary Hughes - Harry's wife painted beautiful bobbins and now at age 80 has macular degeneration and can no longer paint. Paddy Waters - also over 80 and still paints the most exquisite bobbins. Izak Cronje, Western Cape - wonderful midlands bobbins. Beyers Cronje, Graaf Reinet - Izak's son is a teacher and makes very fine midlands bobbins during holiday time. Xavier Stanton, Western Cape, now deceased - midlands bobbins Arthur Bolton, Fishhoek, Western Cape, now deceased - wonderful midlands bobbins. Mr Greyvenstein, Roodepoort - midlands bobbins Sebbald Horne, retired, Johannesburg - fine midlands bobbins Jean Horne. retired, Johannesburg - used to do pyrographed bobbins Ron Fandam, Johannesburg - used to make midlands bobbins Roland Wright, Natal - used to make ivory bobbins and wooden ones. These are the ones that come immediately to mind. I may think of some more tomorrow Janis Savage - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] RE: Bobbin Makers
Dear Arachnes, I am enjoying this thread, and think I have now have a good Autumn project to catalogue my bobbins now the wet weather is setting in! I'm not sure I have seen mention of another Cambridgeshire Bobbin Maker, my closest: Margaret & David Davies, in March: nice delicate bobbins in wood with a very distinctive deep grooved neck and almost hour glass tail. David is often to be seen at lace fairs demonstrating turning. They have a website. http://www.mdlacebobbins.co.uk/ Also Brian Goodwin, still very active as far as I know. http://www.briangoodwin.co.uk/index.html Stephen & Hilary Pearce have retired, but made wonderful ornate carved bobbins. There is another painter of bobbins that used to come to Herts lace days - very art deco / nouveau designs, the name I can never remember, but much enjoy. I have a couple of lovely painted bobbins, again bought many years ago at a Herts lace day, floral on bone with the initials MT - any ideas? One is an Acorn bobbin, the other is an old Cockermouth one. I also have some painted wood and also unusual Corian bobbins from a supplier based near Beaconsfield, Bucks which my mother gave me; she found them in the phone book and went to visit. Well over a decade ago. I thought they might have been Woburn Bobbins but am not sure, anyone recognise the description? Quite chunky so good for gimps and Russian Lace. Regards Louise On another soggy windy day in Cambridge. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
