Fwd: [lace] Re: Christmas Ornament

2013-01-27 Thread Tamara P Duvall
Somehow (doubtless through the "magic" of the intertubes) the following
message, although meant for the list, ended up in my inbox only (I think). If
anyone can help Bonnie, please use "reply all" or else write to her directly.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Bonnie Berg" 
> Date: January 25, 2013 12:30:01 AM EST
> To: 
> Subject: [lace] Re: Christmas Ornament
>
> I am trying to purchase a Brigette Bellon bobbin lace pattern of 2 shephard,
2 sheep and 2 stars.  By any chance can you tell we what book it is in?
Thank you, Bonnie Berg, Shreveport, La.

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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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RE: [lace] knitted lace

2013-01-27 Thread Angel Skubic
Wow Lorelei, what size needles did you use? I am assuming you used gossamer
weight lace yarn? The solid areas look really "fine" with no holes, so I am
thinking very small gauge needles. All my Estonian knitting has been on size
2 or 3 needles which I find HUGE for light gossamer yarn. The solid areas
are not so solid...But everyone said to use that gauge and everyone loves
the results. I personally prefer to use 00 or 000 needles with very fine
yarn. The result is uniform ground areas and the pattern pops without any
confusion... (solid is solid...holes are holes) Yes, much longer to work and
takes more yarn but the results are definitely worth it. (I have a few
shawls I am working with very fine needles, but they are more of the
Shetland school of design)

Cearbhael

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Beautiful!

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> On Behalf Of Lorelei Halley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:20 PM
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> Subject: [lace] knitted lace
> 
> Those who love knitted lace will enjoy this:
> 
> http://stitchinfingers.ning.com/photo/estonian-lace-christenin
> g-shawl?context
> =latesthttp://stitchinfingers.ning.com/photo/estonian-lace-chr
> istening-shawl?
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> Lorelei

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[lace] Re: pattern would you use? Colour

2013-01-27 Thread Susan Reishus
"When giving something to a friend not relative like a horseshoe,
handkerchief or other small item to a bride without knowing the colour of 
her
gown etc are there any ideas people could tell of how they achieved that
without it looking out of place?"  Sue T
***
I would think white would be good
regardless, as if she does cry, it needs to be washed.  
It is ideal for a
baby bonnet conversion with a note to explain, so she may not care if wearing
ivory, etc.
I suppose a bit of blue could be worked in, in case she hasn't
taken care of that belief (and many babies have blue eyes before they change).
I would think the sentiment would outweigh any questions of use, and at least
you know it would be kept for down the road.
I suppose a bit of ivory would be
worked in with the white, also.  Patterns, I can't suggest as there are so
many, but I particularly like embroidered initials, or the last name taken for
both, and the future child.

Best,
Susan Reishus

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Re: [lace] linen christening gown

2013-01-27 Thread Dona Bushong
--but is it possible to hand sew the garment with linen thread?

Hi Susan, I'm sure it is possible for someone to hand sew the garment
itself with linen thread but unfortunately I think that would be beyond my
seamstress skills. Perhaps there's a place for hand sewn garments and I
admire someone who can do it skillfully but in my mind, there's a reason
sewing machines were developed as well as spinning wheels vice hand
spindles or 8-harness looms vice back strap looms.  Things can be done more
efficiently and consistently.  Of course as I write that it strikes me that
- I. Make. Lace. Which some people think doesn't make sense either when you
can go to the store and get something that is more consistent and didn't
take several years to produce. So I suppose that logic isn't logical at
all. :-)  I guess the difference is that I don't have the desire
to acquire the necessary skills for hand sewing the dress itself.
Dona in Havre de Grace, MD

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Re: [lace] Re: pattern would you use? Colour

2013-01-27 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Sue and everyone
Just some thoughts - Make white lace then tie appropriate colour ribbon on
the lace somewhere, when you do know? If the bride has chosen off-white,
sew on a tiny off-white button 'for luck' ?

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Sue  wrote:

> When giving something to a friend not relative like a horseshoe,
> handkerchief or other small item to a bride without knowing the colour of
> her gown etc are there any ideas people could tell of how they achieved
> that without it looking out of place?
>

-- 
Bev in rainy Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] What thread and/or pattern would you use?

2013-01-27 Thread Susie Rose
Hi All!

Thank you for all of you wonderful suggestions.  It's a good idea to
purchase as much thread that I think that I'm going to use.  Then, just to
make sure that I have enough, I buy 3 times as much! I do like Tonder Lace and
especially the Tonder Heart. Which is appropriate.  Both of my parents came
from Danmark.  I was born in California.  If I can find a good picture of it I
can draft the pattern, if I can't find the book.


I should have elaborated on
my query with my background.   My Mother and I used to make 3-5 wedding
gowns/parties a year.  I understand the ins and outs of making gowns.  Also
I'm the only wage earner in this household.  I make things to sell.  If I
don't, I can't make money.  I don't have the time to complete something when
she gets engaged. Unless of course my knight in shining armor whisks me off my
feet and turns me into a lady of leisure.  God willing and the creek don't
rise.  I have to plan ahead for these things.  I've seen brides get engaged
and married in as little as 4 weeks.  And then again in 2 years.  Yes I know
it's HER dress. And HER style. And HER colors.  And she WANTS me to make the
lace for her wedding dress and the dress.  She wants the traditional white
dress.  That's in keeping with her character. (Well we do live one step above
Amish with internet. We live off-the-grid.)  As to the style that will happen
when the
 times comes. Oh she wants to make all the goodies that go along with it.  Ya
think I'm going to be a bit busy.  Busy like a one armed wall paper hanger
with a 12 room mansion to do.  LOL!!!


I stopped making bridal gowns for
others because my last bride was a bridezilla.  Yes it's your special day. But
you don't have to treat people who are working for you as if they are nothing
but dirt. Don't forget it's your new husbands day also.  
 
Hugs,
 
Susie
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[lace] What thread and/or pattern would you use?

2013-01-27 Thread Jane Partridge
I think another thing to consider is that thread that is easily 
available now may not be in ten or so years' time - if you do choose a 
thread, make sure that you get more than sufficient for what you think 
you need, and store it correctly. In the last couple of years we have 
seen major brand names stop the production of what used to be common 
threads, due to the whims of the fashion industry whose factories the 
threads we use are mainly produced for. With the trend towards synthetic 
fabrics for clothing, we may see less specialist, natural fibre, threads 
being produced in the future.


In message <89DFA9620B924C188E3FDC140A2EDF10@SuePC>, Sue 
 writes
I think advance work could be done on design and samples of lace in the 
early days, small items and threads and then you would be prepared to 
follow Maureens idea after a date has been arranged.  To work your own 
design is also a lovely touch.  Certainly makes the lace extra special.

Sue T



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Re: [lace] Re: Linen Christening Gown

2013-01-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
"XX weight" usually refers to cotton threads and is based on the cotton count 
of the number of 840 yard hanks obtained from 1 lb of fibres.  Linen threads 
are usually measured by the number of 300 yard hanks obtained from 1 lb of 
fibres.  Thus a number on a reel of linen thread is likely to be 2.8 times 
higher than the number on a reel of the "same size" cotton thread.

Modern sewing machine cotton (for ordinary sewing together of pieces of fabric) 
is generally 50/3 cotton count - or 32 wraps/cm.  There aren't any 3 ply linen 
threads as fine as that - Fresia 100/2 and Bouc 90/2 are the nearest (if they 
are still available) and anything much finer is like hens' teeth!  

Brenda

On 27 Jan 2013, at 01:57, Susan Reishus wrote:

>  The "33" weight sounds quite thick---"45" might be more
> tolerable as many standard sewing threads are nowadays in the 50 range.  And
> then some threads are given a wt. that varies considerably, also.  As I
> mentioned, handkerchief linen typically requires 80 (and often 90) thread.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Fw: [lace] What thread and/or pattern would you use?

2013-01-27 Thread Sue
I think advance work could be done on design and samples of lace in the 
early days, small items and threads and then you would be prepared to follow 
Maureens idea after a date has been arranged.  To work your own design is 
also a lovely touch.  Certainly makes the lace extra special.

Sue T

Good morning

I also agree with Jane.My daughters both chose ivory for their wedding
dresses but I would have thought that one of them would have chosen white as
she is dark haired and has quite an olive coloured skin.   It all depends on
the dress that they see and like at the time, and of course, can afford.
I made both of them a garter but after they announced they were getting
married.The eldest daughter gave us five weeks notice of the wedding and
the garter was made up using 80 fil a dentelles in white with a blue pair
down the edge
   My younger
daughter gave us over a year's notice of her intention to marry.Again
the pattern was torchon of my own design, but I worked this in silk this
time, can't remember the actual thickness of the thread but it would have
been the equivalent of 30 retors (now 30 madeira cotona) and took longer.
It is an off white colour with a blue pair on the edge of the fan.

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RE: [lace] What thread and/or pattern would you use?

2013-01-27 Thread Maureen
Good morning

I also agree with Jane.My daughters both chose ivory for their wedding
dresses but I would have thought that one of them would have chosen white as
she is dark haired and has quite an olive coloured skin.   It all depends on
the dress that they see and like at the time, and of course, can afford.
I made both of them a garter but after they announced they were getting
married.The eldest daughter gave us five weeks notice of the wedding and
the garter was made up using 80 fil a dentelles in white with a blue pair
down the edge of the fan.The lace was torchon and my own design. I
could work a strip of it in about two evenings and finally finished it
within three weeks. She did have fairly slim legs as she was only a size 8
at the time, and still is.   I was working full time them.  My younger
daughter gave us over a year's notice of her intention to marry.Again
the pattern was torchon of my own design, but I worked this in silk this
time, can't remember the actual thickness of the thread but it would have
been the equivalent of 30 retors (now 30 madeira cotona) and took longer.
It is an off white colour with a blue pair on the edge of the fan.

So I made the decision of what to make after they announced the date of
their wedding.Had all sorts of plans of making edges for a Honiton veil
during their childhood, but it was just as well that I didn't because it
would probably have been done in white and wouldn't have suited.Plus at
least one veil was pure silk, and I would have been reluctant to put cotton
made lace on it as I prefer to keep like fibre with like fibre.

Maureen
E Yorks UK where the snow has all but gone, temperatures are now about 8C
and it is threatening to rain.

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[lace] Re: pattern would you use? Colour

2013-01-27 Thread Sue
When giving something to a friend not relative like a horseshoe, 
handkerchief or other small item to a bride without knowing the colour of 
her gown etc are there any ideas people could tell of how they achieved that 
without it looking out of place?

Sue T
Dorset UK, dry and brightish after a wild windy night


I too wanted to make lace for my youngest daughter's future wedding but 
neither she nor I had any idea what kind of dress she would want and so I 
began yardage for a wedding veil when she was still in high school.  I 
chose a torchon pattern about 2 " wide and used Metler 60/2 cotton thread. 
Over the next 5 years I made 8 yards. I used all but 13" when I made the 
veil.  I also made her garter and lace for a hanky.  Finally I made a 
square mat that was open in the center for the bridal pillow and after the 
wedding I took the mat off the pillow and put a picture of the bride and 
groom in the center, framed it and gave to the bride and groom.

There are lots of ways to use lace in a wedding besides on the dress.
Carol Melton

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