[lace] Pinterest site

[Laurie Waters]

OK - my LaceNews Pinterest site is not about pins for making lace.  It is a
social internet site - think of it as a series of bulletin boards where you
that you might pin photos too.  Except that the board is a folder on the
internet site, and the 'pin' is a picture from some website that you post
with an explanation in that folder.  Click on the pin and it takes you to
the original website.  I have found most of the various lace organizations,
and at the bottom of the page is a number of boards that include lace/book
suppliers by country.  I'm fairly confident after about a month's searching
that I've found most of these websites, but can always use feedback.  

Many of the sites also have facebook pages, twitter feeds, flickr pages,
etc., so when I find those I include them in the description of the original
pin.

This all is a permanent, fairly easy to maintain modern take on the
traditional 'link' page.  I currently have 59 boards and 914 pin, adding
more every day.

Laurie

http://www.pinterest.com/LaceNews/

 

 

 


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Re: [lace] Books - Import Impact on Price

[Lyn Bailey]

Unless there is something beyond page 2 of 4901, the cite you provided, 
which is highly unlikely, it is rather clear and unambiguous that books are 
free.  At least that's what I think.  They could hide something squirly 
someplace else, but the language is so clear in the chart...  lrb, Esq.


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To: nnef...@yahoo.com ; jeria...@aol.com ; lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Books - Import Impact on Price

I have always been under the impression that bringing books  and printed
material back from Europe, for personal use, is free. I think there  is
something on the form that you fill out in the airplane about this. This 
seems to

be covered in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States  (2009)
Chapter 49, or am I reading this incorrectly?

http://www.usitc.gov/publications/docs/tata/hts/bychapter/0910C49.pdf

Devon



Hi  Jeri,

I paid import duty on books one time when I brought in  several
hundred dollars worth of books through  customs,

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Re: [lace] Books and suppliers list

[Dmt11home]

Laurie Waters is listing suppliers and book dealers on  her Pinterest site 
http://www.pinterest.com/LaceNews/
Scroll about half way down and they start, by country. She  says she is 
interested in feedback, suggestions and new pins.
 
Devon

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Re: [lace] Books - Import Impact on Price

[Nancy Neff]

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Re: [lace] Books - Import Impact on Price

[Dmt11home]

I have always been under the impression that bringing books  and printed 
material back from Europe, for personal use, is free. I think there  is 
something on the form that you fill out in the airplane about this. This  seems 
to 
be covered in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States  (2009) 
Chapter 49, or am I reading this incorrectly?
 
http://www.usitc.gov/publications/docs/tata/hts/bychapter/0910C49.pdf
 
Devon
 


Hi  Jeri,

I paid import duty on books one time when I brought in  several
hundred dollars worth of books through  customs,

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Re: [lace] Books - Import Impact on Price

[Nancy Neff]

Hi Jeri,
 
I paid import duty on books one time when I brought in several
hundred dollars worth of books through customs, even though they were all
different titles: my total was over the personal exemption limit, which at the
time was $200, so I paid duty on the amount over $200. (My luggage was VERY
heavy.)  Just recently I brought about $1500 worth of stuff back, but paid no
duty because the personal exemption limit is now up to $1000 or something like
that, and about $1100 of what I'd bought was antique lace (antiques aren't
subject to duty), so the total of stuff that wasn't duty-free was less than
the personal exemption limit. The list of stuff that is duty-free is fairly
short actually, and books ain't on it.
 
Two things to glean from this:
1) 
Import duty is owed on books if they are being brought in for resale, or if
the total worth of them is over the personal exemption allowance.
2)  Be sure
to always get a certificate of authenticity and age if you buy antique lace
overseas--it has to be over 100 years old to be duty-free, and customs
inspectors are not going to be able to judge the age of lace.

Bottom line:
always buy lace :-).

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013
12:40 PM, "jeria...@aol.com"  wrote:
 
Is this tax some of
you are referring to charged to suppliers who  import 
one title in large
quantities?  That would be the only  difference from my 
single copy book
orders

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Re: [lace] Books

[Jack and Mariann]

I find that when looking for books, the best place for me to start at is 
Google search and then "shopping."  Then I go from there.  Sometimes I will 
put in an alert on either Google or eBay for an item.  I have found some 
good deals that way.  Shopping around seems to work for me.  Some gently 
used books are just fine.  New books may be more of a problem.


Mariann
Arizona 


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Re: [lace] Pin update- still seeking

[Kim Davis]

I have had similar issues with wire, and checked in with a wire maker.  I
found out that the core wire measurement is what is used.  For example, a
supa wire which is a copper core, at least one coat of color, and then a
coat of silver is still gauged at the copper core size. Two or more
coatings definitely change the diameter of fine wires.  I wonder if
something similar could happen in pin manufacturing?  Certainly, it could
just be the usual factors like inconsistent manufacture, supplier
variation, etc.
Kim
On Oct 30, 2013 8:14 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks to all who have responded to the pin question, it has  been very
> helpful. Acting on arachne sourced advice I decided to try to use a  box of
> pins that I had from Holly Van Sciver which were labeled Bohin 30 x .85
> nickel. As we have discovered the first number is the length and the
> second is
> the width. Logically, it would seem that for someone seeking a width of
> .86 mm
>  there would not be a perceptible difference in using a pin that is .85 mm.
>  However, the pin felt different, and did not resist heavy tensioning as
> well as  the .86 mm. Could it be only 1/100 mm less in diameter?
>
> Lacking a micrometer, I took Adele's advice and laid 10 pins  next to each
> other to measure them. To my surprise the .86mm measured about .83  and the
> .85 pins measured .78. So the discrepancy between the pins was not 1/100
>  mm
> but rather 5/100 mm. But, more distressing, it illustrated that the
> diameter  measurements of the pins are not reliable.
>
> In that many manufacturers fail to list the diameters of their  pins, as I
> discovered when I went on the numerous pin sites provided to me, one  would
> almost think that pin manufacturers are unaware that their purchasers
> regularly measure their pins with micrometers!
>
> I confess that I have never mastered how to add photos to the  arachne
> flicker site, so if you would like to see the results of my pin
>  investigation,
> ie. a photo of the pins together, and then a photo of each of  them laid in
> sets of 10 and measured with a millimeter tape, I have posted them  to
> laceioli.ning. If someone wants to add them to the Flicker site, feel free.
>
> Here is the link to the photos on laceioli.ning which you  don't have to
> join to view.
>
>
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/tools-and-equipment/forum/topics/pins-seeking
> -29-mm-x-86?xg_source=activity
>
> But seriously, where did I buy these pins and how can I get  more.
>
> Devon
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Re: [lace] brass lace pins & new Bulletin

[hottleco]

Thanks Sue!  You & other Arachne members are going to get me organized in spite 
of myself.  Love your tatting blog--just the right blend of chat & info!  Have 
sent a link to tatty friends who haven't yet taken the plunge on Arachne.  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA
  
 Sue Duckles  wrote: 
Mine are that size and they're used for torchon  and bedfordshire
My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/
 

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Re: [lace] Books - Import Impact on Price

[Jeriames]

Import Taxes?  For Books?  In the U.S.?
 
One thing I've noticed in these posts about inflated prices is references  
to paying import charges.  I have obtained many books from overseas  --  and 
NO DUTY was charged on them.  Here is how books come  home to me from other 
nations:
 
1.  Direct purchase, gift, or a reviewer's copy is mailed to  me.
2.  Ordered via local independent book shop, shipped to  them..
3.  Ordered via American lace book suppliers, shipped to  them..
4.  Hand carried in luggage and cleared through Customs. 
 
Is this tax some of you are referring to charged to suppliers who  import 
one title in large quantities?  That would be the only  difference from my 
single copy book orders
   
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
(Over 4,000 lace/embroidery books in private  library)

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[lace] Pin update- still seeking

[Dmt11home]

Thanks to all who have responded to the pin question, it has  been very 
helpful. Acting on arachne sourced advice I decided to try to use a  box of 
pins that I had from Holly Van Sciver which were labeled Bohin 30 x .85  
nickel. As we have discovered the first number is the length and the second is  
the width. Logically, it would seem that for someone seeking a width of .86 mm 
 there would not be a perceptible difference in using a pin that is .85 mm. 
 However, the pin felt different, and did not resist heavy tensioning as 
well as  the .86 mm. Could it be only 1/100 mm less in diameter?
 
Lacking a micrometer, I took Adele's advice and laid 10 pins  next to each 
other to measure them. To my surprise the .86mm measured about .83  and the 
.85 pins measured .78. So the discrepancy between the pins was not 1/100  mm 
but rather 5/100 mm. But, more distressing, it illustrated that the 
diameter  measurements of the pins are not reliable. 
 
In that many manufacturers fail to list the diameters of their  pins, as I 
discovered when I went on the numerous pin sites provided to me, one  would 
almost think that pin manufacturers are unaware that their purchasers  
regularly measure their pins with micrometers! 
 
I confess that I have never mastered how to add photos to the  arachne 
flicker site, so if you would like to see the results of my pin  investigation, 
ie. a photo of the pins together, and then a photo of each of  them laid in 
sets of 10 and measured with a millimeter tape, I have posted them  to 
laceioli.ning. If someone wants to add them to the Flicker site, feel free. 
 
Here is the link to the photos on laceioli.ning which you  don't have to 
join to view.
 
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/tools-and-equipment/forum/topics/pins-seeking
-29-mm-x-86?xg_source=activity
 
But seriously, where did I buy these pins and how can I get  more. 
 
Devon

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Re: [lace] brass lace pins & new Bulletin

[Sue Duckles]

Mine are that size and they're used for torchon  and bedfordshire

Granny Sue in a sunny East Yorkshire
On 30 Oct 2013, at 14:12,   wrote:

> Hello All!  Following advice from Adele & Bev, I measured my pins as 26x.6.

My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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[lace] brass lace pins & new Bulletin

[hottleco]

Hello All!  Following advice from Adele & Bev, I measured my pins as 26x.6.  
They are still a mystery as I don't know what they are used for.  They were in 
an orphan box of mixed supplies including an inexpensive foam Honiton pillow & 
many sizes of white thread but my friend wasn't learning Honiton lace.  In any 
event, I'm no help to Devon's pin search but I have learned a lot!  Oh my, the 
new Bulletin is a treat.  The front cover piece by Dawn Howell is an 
inspiration.  What a painterly use of colors to create a scenic vista!  
Congratulations to Dawn & the other winners:  Janice Blair, Elizabeth Ligeti & 
Julia Brock.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA cheering from the less 
experienced peanut gallery   

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Re: [lace] Books

[Nancy Neff]

Hi Alex and fellow spiders,
 
Actually there's a bit of confusion about the
shipping etc. charges for the copies of Alex's book already on ebay:  if
the buyer is in the US, the shipping charges are only $3.43 for economy
shipping (probably Media shipping which can take forever but doesn't cost
much).  The basic price of $67.95 probably covers the cost of the original
book at a dealer's discount from the author, plus shipping and import charges
from the UK, plus a moderate profit.  It still seems a little high, but not
as high as at least one other dealer will be selling it for I'll bet.
 
The
high shipping and import charges that Alex saw are because she was accessing
the ebay site from the UK and they were charges for shipping the book back to
the UK.  It would certainly make no sense for anyone in the UK to buy it from
a seller outside the UK.
 
I still prefer to buy from the original source
when possible because I prefer the profit to go to the author rather than be
split between an author and a dealer, but I realize this is not always
convenient for people, plus we need to support our dealers so they are there
to supply us with books and threads and things that it is not so easy to get
ourselves. I have seen some books currently in print for higher prices on
ebay, however, than one can get through amazon.com or even from full-price
retailers, so it pays to be cautious.
 
Also, I have been told that there has
been some indication of knock-off copies of Alex's books being sold for
a LOT less, and those should be avoided too! That is in violation of the
author's copyright, and NO profits are going to the author.  So only buy from
reputable dealers or the author, and remember that, if some deal is too good
to be true, it probably isn't.
 
Sorry for such a long post, but I think
these are issues important to the lace community.
 
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:59 AM, "alexstillw...@talktalk.net"
 wrote:

...My book ��ll about making
��Floral Bucks Point Lace�� has only been
available since 21 October
2013 and there is already one available on ebay at
of $67.95. It also has an
additional shipping charge of $18.93 plus and Import
charge of $22.88 making a
total of $109.76 (�68.45p).

Do NOT pay such highly inflated prices. My book
is �28.50 and is available
from well known suppliers, there are already
three who have it in stock, or
myself, for less.
...  

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[lace] Books and suppliers list

[Lyn Bailey]

There was once a list of suppliers on the Arachne website.  It was removed 
due to obsolescence, and rightly so.  However, this would be a good place to 
list suppliers of all sorts globally, and self publishers so they can be 
found.  Thus the space on the digest would be preserved.  Or even references 
to other places that list such things.  All suppliers are not alike in their 
inventory, and sometimes books can be found one place but not another. 
Perhaps it would be easiest to contact the webmistress and let her know who 
is selling what, what the website is, and all that.  Since the website 
hasn't been updated in 3 years, a refurbishing might be in order.  Perhaps 
also it is time to list where the websites,  facebook pages  and yahoo 
groups are that talk about lace.


Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it's warmer but cloudy. 


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[lace] Re: Books

[alexstillwell]

Thank you Jane.  All we can do is keep alert and letting new lacemakers be 
aware.


Happy lacemaking All

Alex



-Original Message- 
From: Jane Partridge

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:23 AM
To: alexstillw...@talktalk.net
Cc: Arachne reply
Subject: Books

The way the digest works is that it sends out messages once the 'file'
reaches a certain size.  If you were to even attempt 
to

list every author and supplier you would probably exceed this limit and
may end up with no room for the messages themselves! 
..

--
Jane Partridge 


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[lace] WANTED knitted lace pattern

[Jenny Brandis]

I have just received 100gm of 2 ply silk that is from ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/350849985827?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
 &_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 

 

It is length  5395 meters or 5900 yards  the yarn has a count of 60/2 and is
finer that I expected. I am hoping to make a piece of lace such as a wedding
ring shawl or Estonian shawl but now the yarn has arrived I am getting cold
feet. 

 

Could you help me decide on a pattern? I have the following books

 

Knitted Lace of Estonia by Nancy Bush  (love the DVD that comes with it)

First Book of Modern Lace Knitting by
 Marianne
Kinzel

Knitted Lace in White by Sonja Esbensen

 

 

Jenny Brandis

Kununurra, Western Australia

je...@brandis.com.au   

www.brandis.com.au   

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[lace] Lace Magazines

[pene piip]

On Monday I received two magazines - the Nov./Dec. issue of Piecework
& the Fall 2013 issue of I.O.L.I. Bulletin.
Now I'm waiting for the UK Lace one to arrive.

I realized that the October 2012 issue (#148) had an article about a
Halloween quilt made with 12 lace motifs applied to the pumpkins.
Included were the patterns for an owl, a witch & a vulture.
I was looking forward to seeing the other patterns published, so I'm
wondering if there will be some more patterns in the next issue?
But do we have to wait for another 2 years for all the others?

Warm regards from
Penelope in Tartu, Estonia

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[lace] Books

[Jane Partridge]

The way the digest works is that it sends out messages once the 'file' 
reaches a certain size. It was created in the days when most people were 
paying by the second for downloads. Some still are, which is one of the 
reasons we are asked to trim our posts. If you were to even attempt to 
list every author and supplier you would probably exceed this limit and 
may end up with no room for the messages themselves!


Technology moves on, and I expect the membership of Arachne has been 
fairly stable for the last few years - meanwhile we are seeing many new 
lacemakers on Facebook (there are several pages devoted to lacemakers, I 
follow two of them), who are asking questions about suppliers. Again the 
no advertising rule applies, but it is easy to find a link to someone's 
web page when that supplier is also in the group following the page.


By putting such a list on Arachne, I think you would be preaching to the 
converted - most of us know who the reliable suppliers are.


Jeri has done sterling work in the past by posting reviews of new books 
on Arachne. You will also find reviews in most of the major lace 
organisation journals, and if you join the organisation in your own 
country you can usually borrow books from their library for the cost of 
postage. The journals also carry some advertising for suppliers, and 
there are usually links to suppliers' pages from the organisations' 
websites.


Again, these organisations would be too many to list in terms of 
"cluttering up the digest", but if someone wants to know which 
organisations have members in their country, they can always ask a 
specific question here!


Finally, I will mention that The Lace Guild has recently brought a new 
book out. But as I'm 'connected', I'm waiting for someone who isn't on 
the Exec to comment on it!


In message <6EFCD7C18C8F4867924CEA2264F0CA91@Salex>, 
alexstillw...@talktalk.net writes

Hi Arachnids

. A list of book suppliers at the end of each Digest should
including authors who are self-publishing to make it easier for lacemakers to
access their books. This may encourage others to self-publish and we will have
more books available. I am happy to share my experiences of self-publishing
with any budding authors.


--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] brass lace pins & a Waulking song‏‏

[Jean Nathan]

Jeanette wrote: 


Don't know. She'd have to tell you that, but I think she gave me the micrometer 
back at the following week's lacemaking group.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
  

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[lace] books

[alexstillwell]

Hi Arachnids

As a self-publishing author I give a discount to suppliers. However, the
supplier has to pay carriage, which on heavy books, is substantial. Also when
sending outside the EU there are usually import duties for them to pay and
local sales tax. This will probably increase the price they pay per book to
over the original retail price. On top of that the supplier has to make a
profit.  This has to be take into account when buying from suppliers. Even so,
we have all seen books being sold on ebay at ridiculous prices.

Take care everyone

Alex

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[lace] Books

[alexstillwell]

Hi Arachnids

I know there is an embargo on advertising ones own books but this email is not
about advertising but about warning lacemakers.

My book ‘All about making – Floral Bucks Point Lace’  has only been
available since 21 October 2013 and there is already one available on ebay at
of $67.95. It also has an additional shipping charge of $18.93 plus and Import
charge of $22.88 making a total of $109.76 (£68.45p).

Do NOT pay such highly inflated prices. My book is £28.50 and is available
from well known suppliers, there are already three who have it in stock, or
myself, for less.

Cathy Barley is preparing her needle lace book for reprinting and is also
concerned about this. Are there any more authors who have experienced this
problem?

Perhaps Arachne could have a link at the end of each Digest to a list of
suppliers who have books available at sensible prices. this suggestion is not
about advertising and gaining sales. Its intention is to save lacemakers from
this scam.

Most lace authors never make enough on sales of their books to cover their
time spent writing it.  Certainly my latest book has taken 7 years and I have
worked on the manuscript several days per week and on the lace most days. When
I finished my book on geometrical Bucks I could not find a publisher and had
to self-publish. A list of book suppliers at the end of each Digest should
including authors who are self-publishing to make it easier for lacemakers to
access their books. This may encourage others to self-publish and we will have
more books available. I am happy to share my experiences of self-publishing
with any budding authors.

I am interested in the responses this will generate.

Happy lacemaking to all

Alex

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[lace] brass lace pins & a Waulking song‏

[Jean Nathan]

Now here's dedication for you. I lent my micrometer to Eve Morton, who measured 
the diameters of all her mixed up pins to get them sorted in sizes again.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 

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