[lace] commutative
If halfway some continious lace you would unpin and repin reversed, you would have to cross the pairs and twist the centre two bobbins. Jo > Yes, but the maths is interesting too! And reminded me of the word > "commutative": twists and crosses are non-commutative > operations - it really does matter in wuich order they are > performed . > Margery. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re: Braid Theory & bobbin lace
Nancy > However, I've not seen yet any practical > application except a mention of its use in partical > physics--analyzing the tracks particles make in whatever the > modern equivalent is of cloud chambers. At first sight I did not see practical use until I read the remark above: I still have a challenge to tension the virtual threads, the paths of the threads should be shortend to as straight as possible within the complex contraints. Until now I was just thinking about Bezier analysis. But I'm afraid the math of both might be beyond my rusty math experience. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] correct link..
> Why make something so easy look and sound so difficult? > > Ruth The late proffesor that launched the project of scanning out-of-copyright-books was a professor in math. So we owe more to math than meets the eye. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] easy lace vs hard maths..
The math is less strict, we don't move odd bobbins to the left, or even bobbins to the right. Unless we use gimps or pairs as bobbins. Jo > Yes, I agree that lace is easy compared to the math analysis, > but I thought it was fascinating that there even was a math > analysis of something so much like our bobbin lace. Thanks > Margery, I'm not alone out here!! > Nancy Neff - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re: Accomodation in Tonder 2010
I went to Tonder two or three years ago. Not at festival time:-( but nevertheless it ws worth the detour. We were with a caravan and I dont remember the showers on the campsite were that bad (in the south of France I once had a much worse experience, you had to pull a chain so had just one hand free, the little spray vapourised so quickly my belly did not get wet). Renting a camper might also be a good idea. Danmark has tons of open air musea, for free, usually with a lace class room. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] New release of BobbinWork Diagrams
Hello spiders I thought I could make a happy dance tonight, celebrating a new release. But the dance is limping. I wanted to make it easier to launch, but Java WebStart reports some denied access. So I still problems to solve. But with a relatively new system you might give it a try. It is still an incomplete pilot, but what it can do should now be more intuitive. The left panels are redesigned. Just walk through the desccriptive instructions and the corresponding part in the diagram is highlighted. Or click in the diagram to find the corresponding description. Hover over buttons for hints, repaint threads or replace stitches. Tell me what is wrong. Note that the user guide is not yet updated. As the guide is in a wiki, you can help out. You can download the new version from http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/ If the command "java -version" prompts with 1.6 or higher you can run the program with the command "java -jar YOUR/PATH/TO/BwDiagrams-rel-2.1.450.jar". On some systems you can simply double-click the jar file. If your java version is lower, see www.java.com/getjava/ I tested on Windows and Linux (Ubuntu). My Mac tells me my java 1.5 is the latest and greatest though http://developer.apple.com/java/ seems to tell there is a Java SE 6. For the google-paranoid spiders: it is not a google application but mine, I just happen to choose google to host it. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] BobbinWork trouble shooting
Hello spiders I uploaded a new version that should work for up-to-date mac users. If the command "java -version" propmts with version 1.5 or higher, you can launch the program with the command: java -jar "your/path/to/BwDiagrams.jar" You can download the jar file from http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/downloads In the meantime I also translated the program into Dutch and it is ready for translation into other languages, see http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com/translate+the+software I would also like some help with further trouble shooting. Though the program works when launched as described as above, it sould also launch with the following link: http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/webstart/BwDiagrams.jnlp or tynied: http://tinyurl.com/yjt2pn9 However, in this case it might not show any diagram. I would like to know if anybody can show any diagram when using the jnlp link. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] BobbinWork trouble shooting
Sue A screenshot of the may version is still on http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com/ I was trying to talk about todays version, screenshots on http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com/quick+start+for+diagrams are a mix of todays and the may version. I looked further into it: I told the compiler to produce 1.5 code but that does not seem to be enough. They say the compiler itself should have been executed with the 1.5 version. So I'll have to try again. Jo > I've downloaded the (May) version, the new one won't run on > my intel mac using Leopard. However it doesn't show > anything, what is it supposed to show? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] RE: [bw] BobbinWork trouble shooting
Hello spiders I managed to compile it on Mac. I replaced the download link http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] BobbinWork trouble shooting
Nancy and other vista users > FYI (I can't offer any help with this): with either link > below, the app produces the error message > "java.security.AccessControlException access.denied > (java.lang.RuntimePermission setIO). > > I'm running Vista, so it may be a quirk of my PC/OS. > > --Nancy You might be right with suspecting vista, see http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6459786 An update of java might fix it. A workaround: - save the jar file from the download section of http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/ on your hard disk. - Open a terminal. - Type the command "java -jar /PATH/TO/YOUR/FILE.jar", of course replace parts in capitals. Should that be added to http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com/trouble+shooting ? Please go ahead. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Faces on beads
What about a tip of nail polisch applied with a tooth pick? Never ttied it though. > Does anyone know how to put faces on pearl beads? > > Pene in Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Mary Niven OOP?
May be just the first edition. I bought a reprint between 2003 and 2007. That is when the paperback was published respectively when I entered it on http://www.librarything.nl/catalog/kantelier Jo > Meanwhile, try Michael's Flanders book... Holly and Lacy > Susan both carry it. Another excellent book is Mary Niven's > book on Flanders, but it's OOP... but not impossible to find. > Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Java webstsart wizzard among us? Not OT
Dear spiders, I'm afraid you have to jump through too many hoops to run the lace software I'm developing for you for free. Do we have any Java developpers among us or our relatives? Someone with experience with Java Webstart might lend a helping hand to solve next issue http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/issues/detail?id=19 An alternative would be to edit the wiki page that describes the hoops. My wordings might be too technical and chaotic for the less computer literate. http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com/trouble+shooting#toc1 Please help me helping you Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Please proofread (just a few lines)
Hello bi-lingual spiders I just discoverd the possibillity to offer translated versions of http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/wiki/WikiHome The central part of the page should appear in the language of your system/browser, as far as I master the languages or got some help previously. I would be delighted if you could verify/complete the versin in your mother tongue. I still have to figure out a trick to make the project home page translatable. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Please proofread (just a few lines)
On the right 'locales' presents the other languages. > well, it works in English ;) > I suppose I would have to reset my computer language to see it in French. >> http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/wiki/WikiHome - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Please proofread (just a few lines)
Dear spiders I'm afraid I caused some confusion. Some updated the wikispace intro pages. Not what I tried to ask but great too. So thanks Antje and anonymous. Comment/discussion sections on wiki pages (any wiki) are intended to communicate about the content on the wikipage. So that reaction is ok too: If the content of the page is clear as mud, it needs improvement. I tried just moments ago. My intention was to get the english and bad phrases replaced on the following pages http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/wiki/WikiHome?wl=de&show=content http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/wiki/WikiHome?wl=fr&show=content http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/wiki/WikiHome?wl=es&show=content Sadly enough a google bug prevents to do that the wiki-way*, but mail me your version and I can submit it. Corrections on the 'en' and 'nl' version are welcome too. *: well you could join the project as a developer, install subversion, check out trunk/wiki... Lost me? forget it. Not lost? Go ahead and welcome! > Jo, I see the locales, and have followed the links; it is the > WikiHome I'm looking at, for another language which I thought > was what you meant. BUT I see it is for communication with others. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Webshot pop ups
I like to see your laces, but the popups of webshots make me paranoid. My Firefox 3.6 does not block them. What is the experience of others. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Webshot pop ups
I have the checkbox ticked. Problem is it is not a traditional pop-up. > This is not directly related to lace, But it is related to a website heavily used by our list members. The ads used to be acceptable but are currently so agressive it renders the site almost useless for my taste. I'd rather keep my system safe. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] There must be a better way!!
A variant on the tuning forks are bycicle spokes. Bend them around somthing and you have a half open safety pin like device to scoop up the bobbins. The little knob prevents the bobbins from rolling out. Works for continental bobbins. Not for unspangled midlands. T__| Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lacemaking group wanted
http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ lists a honiton tutor in Wellington, she might know more Jo > Does anyone know of a lacemaking group in the Tiverton UK > area that I might be able to join? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Thread amount per bobbin
Mark, The question is answered before in general. Search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/ You might try to study how the threads run through a design with my program on http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/ but that might still be too elaborate and it still requires a learning curve. It might be too short for a runner. Rather than knotting, you could try to plan working with double threads to lengthen. Work double through one or two tctct's and it will hold. The twists are the most important, both to hide working temporarily with double threads and to keep them firm in place. You could also attach extra lengths to the threads that is just used to wind on the bobbins. In my experience: use thread with the same twist, others seem not to mind. Jo > I have a question about thread amounts per bobbin, when the > directions don¹t give that information. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Running out of thread (was: Thread amount per bobbin)
> Thanks for these. I am not sure I understand about the > double thread method. I'm afraid you don't. Hang up a pair with one bobbin that will run out very soon. Knot a temporary thread to the short end. Before you reach the knot, add a new bobbin with plenty thread on a temporary support pin. Work the short thread and new thread as a single bobbin. Twist them firmly so they become a single thread. Work this double thread through one or two stitches. Throw out the short thread. Don't use this trick in ct/tc area's, preferably avoid ctc area's. If even the ascii-art attempt (use a monospaced font) doesn't clarify, may be someone else could jump in with other wordings. _ /o\ | | | | | | | | | | \ | | || | || | | \ | | x | | \ | |\ | | T T | | T T O O O O O O O O V V - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re: Thread amount per bobbin
Another idea: use th tencels as a gimp in patterns with lots of gimps. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] lace on airplanes, was Bobbin lace carry pillow
Lately I tend to make wire lace. It needs few pins and is easy to repin so a miniature pillow is enough. So I wrapped a fleece shawl and placed it in a food container, pinned wire lace on it and arranged it as shown on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html Imagine how all that metal looks on an x-ray image scanner... I had to open up and explain but otherwise no problem. The pillow can actualy be smaller than the pattern. To have a larger working space, I pin a 'skirt' on the pillow. A kind of semi-circular cover cloth padded with undercarpet. There is always something at hand to put as extra padding under the 'skirt', another sjawl, gloves... Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re: Pricking Material/Libraries (Evolved to Copyright)
> For me, it always boils down to "doing unto others as one > would prefer done to you." (Golden Rule). If this was > minded, then laws would be, by and large, unnecessary. > Best,Susan Reishus It is not that simple. I know lace designers who are just happy when their designes are loved and used as it is their hobby, I also know who try to make a living from their designs. These two would prefer to be done different to themselves. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Strange magazine received
You could also try an automated translation on http://www.kantinvlaanderen.be/ (just stripped the email part up to the @) Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] announcements
> I'd like to start over with new listings, but while I could > probably manage to put it together, keeping it up to date > going forward is just going to continue to be a problem. Why not create http://arachne.wikispaces.com/ Then anyone can help you maintain whatever list or faq you (or someone else) starts. I have one and experience no spam even though I configured it completely open without even requiring to sign up to make changes. Should spam become a problem, you can tighten security with a few moderators to accept newbees. User friendly and for a free scheme the adds are not very dominant. No affiliate, just a happy user: http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Pattern drawing software
@Liz You can find several overviews in the software section of http://bobbin-lace.wikispaces.com Perhaps more than you might want to know yet. @all spiders If anyone sees out of date information, please join and update. @Anna Couldn't you share some of your templates, why let others reinvent the wheels? I shared my baby steps on http://bobbin-lace.wikispaces.com/software+reviews but never tried to walk the lane any further. @spiders using http://www.gimp.org I just wrote a tutorial for grids on http://bobbin-lace.wikispaces.com/grids#Tutorials-Gimp but still have to learn to connect the dots efficiently. Any hints? Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Pattern drawing software
Hello Ruth The website of Easy-lace seems still alive. I made some adjustments to http://bobbin-lace.wikispaces.com/design+software+compared but I might not have all the details right from the description page, could you fill me in on the question marks and other details I missed. For example is it only available in English? Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Belgian Lace Tour
> would be very grateful for people's recommendations of where to see lace Have you checked http://www.lokk.nl/musea/index.php ? Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] the Greek Lacemaker
As well as lace, among my obscure hobbies I do folk dance Me too, we even practiced a dance called 'kantklossen' which is bobbin lace making. I did not recognis Jo https://kantelier.wordpress.com/category/english/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] drawing with svg editor
Hello spiders Sorry for cross-posting, but for those not on the IOLOI forum I'd like to announce the result of my research about drawing thread diagrams with InkScape. It is especially about generating variations on grounds. You can find the result via http://kantelier.wordpress.com Reviews and other comment are welcome. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] seeking Milanese advice
Sometimes a patterns anticipates a curve, while lacing you think you need backstitches, to discover you soon need backstitches on the other side, so after all you didn't need a single backstitch at all. Instead of counting to get proper curved braids, I draw lines on a copy of the pattern. A zigzag line for plain cloth stitch, or just connect opposite dots with parallel lines for decorated braids. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] ridle in Binche kompakt
Hello Spiders I'm working the pattern http://tinyurl.com/BincheKompakt and don't understand the half-stitch area in section 21. The copy of the finished lace is of poor quality. Has any of you done the pattern and figured it out? The horizontal connection between the cloth-stitch and half-stitch area is clearly drawn as a tctc, in ascii-art: "><" between the pins, the diagonal connection is drawn as ">--<" but no red color indicating a tctc. I found a better picture http://tinyurl.com/BincheKompakt2 It is the symmetrical corner at the left bottom. It looks like tctc all around. Thanks for any advice Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] ridle in Binche kompakt
I looked more carefully now with better light. I thought the lines were green, but you're right, they are blue. Thanks > Hello Jo, > > When referring to the diagonal connection, do you mean the blue line? > Because if it so, then it means that it is a briad. > > Maria > from Spain - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] archive.org and link rot
Hello spiders The archive.org is one of the tools and services under development to fight link rot in (scientific) articles. Link rot is not only about pages and websites that disappear, but also about pages with changed content. You might have learnt by now to recover a lost page by pasting its address on http://archive.org/web/ but it requires some luck. In case sooner or later you forget or somehow become unable to maintain links on your site, you can improve the luck of your future visitors. Try the above action when you create a link to a valuable page. If the archive does not has a capture yet, a link is presented to save the URL. If the capture is outdated, the lower right form allows you to create a new capture. The techies among us may prefer to prefix the original URL with http://web.archive.org/*/ respective http://web.archive.org/save/ Much more is explained at https://archive.org/about/faqs.php#The_Wayback_Machine and https://blog.archive.org/category/wayback-machine/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] RE: Mathematics and lace
Hello spiders > Actually Veronika Irvine, one of the authors of this paper I'd guess she is not just one of the authors but the major author, the other author one is "just" her supervisor. > Veronika also has a computer code based on her work (DiBL - Diagrams > for Bobbin Lace), see <https://github.com/jo-pol/DiBL/wiki> https://github.com/jo-pol/DiBL/wiki I can't help but defending myself as the mayor author of the DiBL project. Veronika's output was my input. She's the giant, I stand on her shoulders. Her InkScape extension were first published (and still are) on her own website <http://web.uvic.ca/~vmi/> http://web.uvic.ca/~vmi/ and later bundled together with extensions by me at DiBL. One of my extensions is a simplified version of an eight year old (way too complicated) polar grid generator. Jo Pol - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Bruges without official OIDFA support
Without blaming or shaming anyone for the incompatible Belgian laws and OIDFA regulations, or whatever more contributed to the problems, reading the interview "canceled" was a wrong subject line in my opinion. The content of the message may explain more, but the first blow is half the battle. Some may not read beyond the subject line. > 2018 OIDFA Congress in Bruges cancelled http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg49405.html No affiliation with either party. I didn't hear about it until I visited the Arachne archive. Jo Pol - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] GroundForge
Hello Arachnids, As a few of you might know I've been working on a new ground generator in spare time for more than a year. As I don't want to make perfection the enemy of the good and before the screen casts get too outdated, It's getting time to let you all know about it. It's an online application, so no need to install anything though tablets let you enjoy only part of the fun, real web developers are welcome to jump in on that aspect. The application allows you to design your own ground by configuring matching pairs of thread and pair diagrams with variations of the corresponding pricking. Some patterns may be quite common, many but not all may have been published before somewhere but anyway you can give the grounds your own twist, pun intended. I tried to add enough explanations but don't hesitate to ask. Questions are important to make me improve. Please go ahead, look and play around and note that even the footer is part of it all. Here is the link: https://d-bl.github.io/GroundForge/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] using thread diagrams as pair diagrams
Hello Spiders Thread diagrams of a plain Torchon ground (with respectively ctctc, ctct or ct), are pair diagrams for Binche, Flanders or Paris grounds. As a Christmas gift to all off you I added a page to GroundForge that draws up many more patterns following the same principle. https://d-bl.github.io/GroundForge/recursive.html Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Bangle patterns sizes
If your bangles are of another size, you might consider rezising the pattern and use other thread. You'll find various links to that subject on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-NL.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lacemakers in Arizona
You will find lacemakers in the region at http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ Jo, the map-assistent of the lacefairy - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Visit to The Netherlands
Don't miss http://www.museumpakhuiskoophandel.nl/ The page "lokatie" shows how to walk from the train station, or which bus to take. You can plan your public transport at http://www.9292ov.nl 36 minutes for direct trains, 50 for other trains. In this case you might go together with your husband in a weekend. http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ Lists 2 lacemekers in Groningen. You can find Roelien via http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kantklossen/ She might not speak English. Jo > There's a wonderful costume museum (with lots of lace) in > Noordhorn, a short bus ride from Groningen. See: > http://home.kpn.nl/pilat004/ frame.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] subscription
What about a tray with a built-in pillow at its bottom? http://www.wolviesshop.nl/Documenten/Afbeeldingen/Artikel/479_Luxe_schoottafel__Burberry__.jpg Jo > Avital > Arachne moderator, typing in bed with laptop on my lap (if someone can > think of a better arrangement so I don't have to balance this hot > thing on my thigh, I'm open to suggestions) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Help Needed
Hi Karen You could try to play with http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/webstart/bwpGrid.jnlp Explained at http://bobbinwork.wikispaces.com/quick+start+for+grids It counts in mm and wants at least half a circle on a page. But you could try as if mm's are cm's and enlarge 10 times. The help is a wiki so anyone is welcome to improve it. > So the question is this: How do I calculate the outer circle > size and the size of the grid for that circle? - I can work > on a torchon grid. How do I then calculate the sizes of the > inner circles as I move inwards? Jo Founder of this Open Source project - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Museum map
Hello Spiders >From time to time we get questions like: I'm going to spend some time in ... can anyone reccommend something lacy in the region? To make it easier I'm proud to anounce http://www.lokk.nl/musea/ There is different technology under the hood, and also different (Dutch) wording because of the different purpose, but it works more or less like the http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ So I invite yo to add all the lacy musea, permanent and temporal lace exhibitions on the LOKK map you know about that are not yet represented. Whenever you encounter a closed museum that is still on the map, please use the contact link at the bottom of the pop ups to inform the moderator. For more translation you might copy text into an automated translator. Viewing the whole page within such a translator might disable functionallity of the map and not everything gets translated that way. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Index of world lace bobbins in Drawings ?Help please
This one accidently did not go to the list > > It is a Dutch catalogue of a contemporary bobbin maker: > > http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/bobbins/ > > > >> I have copied and edited the following sets of images on these URls > >> > >> http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=11&u=13882551 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Downton bobbins
Jeri and others Would you please be so kind to put information like this on http://www.lokk.nl/musea/ The more contributions the better the map becomes. Together the spiders must know a lot more than is already on map. Jo Who wrote the code under the hood of this map > There is a lovely museum in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, > located diagonally across to the right from the front door of > Salisbury Cathedral, called Salisbury Museum. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] English help for Museums map
Lyn Thank you so much for your offline feedback and encouragement to write an English help page. When I have the Dutch equivalent of the page, I will put a proper link on the map page, as now I don't know were to put it. But you can find the explanations at http://www.lokk.nl/musea/help-en.html So now I expect either more contributions or further feedback on unclear details. Jo > How absolutely fantabulous!!! It's a lot easier than asking > every time. I had been hoping something like this could be > accomplished. This is truly wonderful. I'm so very, very > glad there is now a way to see where the lace-related places > are. Thank you so very much indeed. lrb - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] "bobbin lace" vs "needle lace" in print in English
I'm afraid the scientific use is debatable. Much depends on projects scanning books and offering the scans to google. So the books searched might be very biased. And the bias might differ by period. After all it are just about 4 percent of all books ever published. (I would like to know this percentage by period) some more explanation on http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/info It is interesting to zoom in for example on "bobbin lace" from 1940-1980 and follow the link for 1959 respective 1960-1979. 1959 has some general textile and antiques book on top, where the latter period has many about bobbin lace on top. Where ever the links at the bottom of the graph shows a period (as opposed to just a single year) there is a chance you can narrow the plotted period. A combined graph for different lace terms http://tinyurl.com/35rvgyk I know spangles just from bobbin lace, but from this graph I guess it must have other uses too ;-) It would have been interesting to have different types of curves in the graph. For example just counting publications that mention bobbin/needle-lace at all, counting titles with containing the search term, counting books that mention both needle-lace and bobbin-lace as opposed to just one of them etc. Jo > (explanation is at http://tiny.cc/cwwy0 for anyone who missed > my previous post.) > > Nancy > Connecticut, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Nancy's graph
Mixing all the lace terms mentioned so far in a single diagram http://tinyurl.com/2ujyby7 Had to play with the order for distinguishing by color Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] wire lace with insect pins
Hello Spiders As my old site is too elaborate to maintain, I just started a blog. My first post: http://kantelier.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/wire-lace-with-insect-pins/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Drinking straws (was ... metalic thread)
Though used for another reason (a replacement for hooded bobbins) shown on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html > If the thread is thin enough, another solution is to cut > plastic drinking straws to the length of the bobbin's neck > and then slit them lengthwise and slip over the thread. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Question concerning metallic thread.
Hello Spiders I happend to be assembling a blog-post on wire bobbins, part own images, part links to images. Like Brian I cloud use some help on missing links. May be French spiders could get the help from mono-lingual lacers for the origin of the faked top-right image. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bobbins for Brian?
Perhaps someone to contact http://travelfibreandthread.blogspot.com/2011/01/lacey-update.html Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] lacemakers sought
http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ Has at least one with an e-mail address only 30 km from Munich Jo > I email with a lacemaker from the Munich area, and she told > me that she does not know of any other lacemakers or groups > in the area. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] RE: [bobbinlace] App for lace designers with Macs
There is even a free (open source) alternative: http://www.gimp.org available for all/most operating systems, havent explored it myself for the purpose of lace yet, as years ago I bought http://www.knipling.de/knipling/knipling-kn30en.html and later I started to develop http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/ for a slightly different use case. Also available for all/most systems. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] RE: [bobbinlace] App for lace designers with Macs
Hello Achim > I also own Knipling - nice program but again in a different > price category and not very Mac-like It runs on windows too. I just mentioned it to explain why I did not try wether "The Gimp" could do something. After buying one of the first versions of Knipling I volunteerd as a beta tester for later versions. I was not very succesful in convincing to improve usability. Way too much and too complex dialogs. > And I think there's no > development for it any more, so if it stops working in any > OSX update we're lost (I just checked on their webpage and > indeed the Mac version is discontinued already). I suppose too few people bought it to pay a serious developers salary. Most software developers need to make a living... I never even considered a comercial version for my Bobbinwork. It isn't half way what I imagined and you can see the estimated costs thus far from the statistics. Estimated by a third party by counting code lines, not includeing the time spent on the user guide what should not be underestimated too. If I would consider to sell Bobbinwork in its current state at the same rates for Knipling, I would need to sell 1800 copies for a break even, just to get a developers salary and not even counting the costs of running a business. I'm afraid the market is not that big. If no one pays nor participates in developing, nothing happens anywhere. I'm not asking to be pitied, I did what I did for other reasons. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs
> I have no idea what Jo's Bobbinwork is supposed to do. I'm > probably being thick, but there doesn't appear to be any > instructions/help file on what to do with it. Under the links on the right of http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/ you will find links to user guides. > I've managed to > get a couple of grounds in the window from the sample files, > but what I'm supposed to do with them after that, I don't > know. You can make variants, such as reduce a "vierge" (or however that is claaed in English) to a roseground or whatever is in between. You can change the colors of threads to see how the threads run through the ground and plan some "Dick durch dunn" variation (http://tinyurl.com/4b935xg). A twist more or less can have a big influence. The "how to" is available in Dutch: http://tinyurl.com/6ezazgu A tinied automated translation: http://tinyurl.com/4jtvhpj If the slightly more computer literate contribute by adding an English translation or their own way of explaining, or even add more how to pages to the wiki, I might (don't hold your breath) get encouraged to resume development some day. > There doesn't seem to be a simple way of drawing fans, > marking rose ground, tallies, spiders, etc as there is with > Lace 2000/R-XP, so I suspect it's intended for something more > advanced than I'm interested in. These functions are "not yet implemented". Please stop suspecting and start reading: compare the "what" and "in practice" on the home page http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/ following the link to the issues might be a bit too technical for you but that could also shed some light on my not yet implemented intentions. Except solving technical puzzles I desperately need gui designers to help thinking. So Achim, a chance to turn your general critisism into something practical and reply to isssue 33 ;-) Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] RE: lacemaker map delete
Sister Johanna from Cincinnati, OHIO If you are on the list, Joillet Caroline From Aarschot in Belgium on http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ wants to contact you. If Johanna is not an arachne-member but some spider knows her, please forward this message. Jo > I have some models for religious lace, I am from Belgium, but > I don't know how to contact you. > I am just a new "member" Much greetings , Caroline Joillet - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] RE: [bobbinlace] Chantilly lace fan
Achim Somewhere I read about a (rather destructive) test: somehow melt a litle bit at an invisible spot. If my memory is not tricking me, the real material should smell like burning hair. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong. Jo > Maybe some of you could give me some information about the > fan stick material (the seller said "faux tortoise", but I > think it might even be real tortoiseshell) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] RE: [bobbinlace] Chantilly lace fan
But perhaps a macro picture of the damaged ends offers enough information to a specialist. > Achim > > Somewhere I read about a (rather destructive) test: somehow > melt a litle bit at an invisible spot. If my memory is not > tricking me, the real material should smell like burning > hair. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong. > > Jo > > > Maybe some of you could give me some information about the > fan stick > > material (the seller said "faux tortoise", but I think it > might even > > be real tortoiseshell) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Looking for Sister Johanna
Sorry for the odd previous subject > Sister Johanna from Cincinnati, OHIO > > If you are on the list, > Joillet Caroline From Aarschot in Belgium on > http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ > wants to contact you. > > If Johanna is not an arachne-member but some spider knows > her, please forward this message. > > Jo > > > I have some models for religious lace, I am from Belgium, > but I don't > > know how to contact you. > > I am just a new "member" Much greetings , Caroline Joillet > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing > the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Special bobbins for brian?
Bobbins with a detacheable head http://www.lesdiversespassionsdejosi.com/article-un-carreau-tout-beau-tout-n euf-60443550.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace Dragon
Did you mean this one? http://www.dentellieres.com/Reportage/R2004/Mirecourt/mirecourt4-det2.htm The second link on http://www.dentellieres.com/Reportage/R2004/Mirecourt/mirecourt4.htm Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] magnifier/jewelers loop
If you meant viewing while making, I have some arguments listed on https://kantelier.wordpress.com/category/english/ > What he found is a magnifier which uses a convex and concave > lens stuck together so you get an even magnification instead > of having a focal area surrounded by some distortion. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions
Do you mean re-produce? As producing a good video is not easy at all. I once tried it myself for a very tiny peace of lace. There are lots of problems as threads are hardly visible by the camera, some movements are too quick to capture, the viewing angle, proper contrast. You have to cut and paste in a logical way, etc. So it takes a lot of time and as time is money... > This seems a really said thing when it is so easy to produce > DVDs on a home computer. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] lace days
Everyone can help to collect exhibitions and musea all over the world on http://www.lokk.nl/musea/ Implemented by me, kindly hosted by the dutch guild Jo > May I ask the same for the US? > (...) > > Where can I find a list of planned lace days for September 2011 in > > England/western Europe. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless
I definitely started as an activist. Observed a demo and tried it from memory at home. But then I decided to be pragmatic and turned to a library. Jo > I am definitely an activist!! Cannot understand written > instructions so I barge in and solve problems as they arrive!!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace patterns
Reminds me of how Ulrike Loehr structured her "Maikaefer, flieg!". The first patterns have lots of instructions, the latter less and less. I try to encourage my students to draw their own route-maps when they find a pattern with too little instructions. Consider it a phase in learning levels. > I always worry about the modern trend of making lace > fillowing route map charts. This is only another form of > 'making lace by numbers'. A true lacemaker is able to 'read a > pricking' - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Spanish language lace
Would a Spanish/Portugeese help page get more of them on http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ than the automated translation does? Then please help me to create such a help page as I don't master these languages. Jo The map assistent of the lacefairy > Yes, there's Latin American lacemakers (Spanish and > Portuguese-speaking) and the actual Spanish, and we are > everywhere, he he he - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Spanish language lace
> I haven't tried it, but if you googled the > words for lace from the 'International Lace Dictionary': But you would also get a lot of rubisch, such as the philosopher Immanuel Kant, and the Dutch kant just means side, everything about other side back side etc. The German Sptize means pointy so you will get more church towers than lace, and the French dentelles delivers more mountain ridges and even wines. Even in plain English you would get shoelaces too. So you would need to be more specific. I added row for needle lace and tatting to http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQ The knowlegdgebale could add columns for the missing languages. It would be helpfull to complete at least the rows for bobbin lace, needle lace and tatting. There are now two rows for the languages: English and the native version. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Dunning Kruger effect
When developping software and trying new techniques, I frequently say something like: "not disturbed by any knowledge" I acomplished ... Way back someone explained the difference between an IT-profeesional an a mathematicion (or me and him, or a pargamatic versus ...) with the same words in different order: an ITp does not know why it works, a M does know why it does not work. Hmm, in English one of the words spells differently. I also heard about the evolution: Uncounsiously incompetent, counsiously incompetent, counsiously competent, incounsiously competent. I guess Darwins phrase or the Dunning Kruger effect is about the "counsiously competent". Jo > Darwin; "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than > does knowledge". - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] French speaking spiders
Hello French speaking Spiders If you have as helpfull lace groups as Arachne is, could someone ask to help find the web page where I found a bolted bobbin like http://tinyurl.com/45egxne on http://kantelier.wordpress.com/2011/01/16 If my memory is not playing tricks I might have seen it on http://www.dentellieres.com It tried to google with "cuivre site:www.dentellieres.com" and "fer site:www.dentellieres.com" but have no iedea wich other words I could try. But It might also be another site. Thanks in advance Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] French speaking spiders
A problem is the French have a single word for wire and thread: fil > If you know the French for wire bobbin... lrb - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Old pic of Lacemaker
In the '80th, before the web and before I discovered the LOKK, having just a handfull of books, I discovered a significantly younger woman in the street were I lived with her pillow in the window. It wasn't a touristic or crafty neighbourhood at all. Thought I was lucky but she wasn't into tutoring, neither knew someone who did beyond office-hours :-( Jo > When I was in Brugge last fall, I saw a younger (but not > *much* younger) woman sitting in a doorway just as this woman > was, making lace on a similar pillow. In Brugge, it seems > that time has stood still in some respects! > > Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Disaster?
Not of much help now, but to prevent disasters I use transparent cloths to cover my pillows. Preferably good quality fine woven smooth glass curtains. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] first pillow
My first pillow was a roll of about 10 cm wide and a diameter of 5 cm, filled with ... Sand! I soon discovered I must have misunderstood something on the street fair. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] first pillow
I know too little of needle lace to know wether sand is a good or bad filling. But it does not hold the pins in place for bobbin lace. Now I know it is good to put brass pins in a *pin cushion* not your *lace pillow* filled with sand for the bottom of bird cages. The constant movements sands of the (green) corrosion. In Dutch pillow and cushion is a single word, so I must have mixed up these two. > A friend made a needlelace pillow for me and filled it with sand. > > Jay in Sydney - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace]strip tablecloth
a variation on the previous solutions (repinning previous strips, wrapping in tea-cloths) Sart making the odd strips. Then while making strip 2 join it alongto strip 1 and 3, while making strip 6 join it to 5 and 7 while making strip 4 join it to 1-3 and 5-7 while making 4. To avoid ending and starting each strip, you could zigzag with corners. In ascii art the start looks something like: v << v >v ^v ^v v ^v ^v ^v v ^v ^v ^v v ^v ^v ^v >>>^>>>^>>>>> Then on you way back you fil in the missing strips. Or work circular, inside out or outside in. Note that depending on your tension unpinned sections may shrink and hard to repin. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Blood on lace, how to remove.
> soak item in cold highly salted water. versus > Take a piece of the same thread you are using for the lace, > make a small ball of it, about the size of a large pea. Put > the ball in your mouth and soak it with saliva. Now use that > ball of wet thread to dab the blood off the lace. You might not have salt available at conventions or wherever You allways have your own salive with you Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] modify, combine, and create new patterns
See https://kantelier.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/pommegranite/ Jo > On that note, teach design along with the lacemaking itself. > No young person I know would be satisfied just knowing how to > follow existing patterns, or recreating old lace. Teach > what's needed to modify, combine, and create new patterns, > and we will. > > -Katelyn Schreyer > Here is a better/bigger picture. > http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6239775603_188ec0183c_b.jpg > Natalie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Demo / christmas
You could make a start with christmas stable figures and have the rest of the patterns on display. Or mix your lace figures between other type(s) of crafty figures. Jo > I'm definitely going to see if I can get to mind the church > while our festival is on, and take a lace pillow, even though > I've not got enough time to display a tree. > > Alison - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] SWAT PPT / how long does it take
Hello SWAT-spiders With christmas we are asked to do something with our hobbies at work. Of course that's a lace demo / have-a-go by me. But it might be nice to add a powerpoint presentation. Couldn't the virtual lace-SWAT team assemble something at for example http://www.slideshare.net/ with a creative commons license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ some thoughts about hte content: * the SWAT poster turned into a template * a slide in the FAQ category: a baseball bat next to a bayeaux bobbin: "size matters" * modern examples of lace: both stunning pieces of art and simple yet attractive pieces * various types of pillows Do you have other suggestions? another question to prepare my demo, how many time needs an average unitiated adult to make the famous fish, how many pairs/rows go in that fish? Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace classes
Hi Nita I have not much to add to Lorelei's suggestions. I started tutoring with a longer lacing history but without previous education experience. I started with a single newbee and slowly the number grew. I took rather a coaching approach than a schoolish approach, except for the first one or two lessons. It worked for me and most of my students. What took me by surprise at first was a reflex when letting them make tapes. When the worker returns, they tended to make mirrored stitches, that is the cross with the 3rd bobbin over the 2nd and the twists with the 1st an 3rd over the 2nd and 4th. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace classes
> but it might be worth > considering that your students might have been damaged by a > previous experience. Happened to me with one: it appeared she could not bear at all with undoing. If I had known I would have fiddled something but even the first time appeared to be fatal. Lesson learnt by me: _allways_ ask "do you want to live with an imperfect sample"? After a few times you know the attitude. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace classes
> Sometimes you have to live with an inperfect sample as long > as the planned piece is perfect. > After all, there is no point in keep undoing a sample > and being put off for ever. > > Maureen I totaly agree. I just had to learn that some people are putt off very very quickly. My patience did not get a second chance. Another one I managed to resque. Out of my knowledge a third lady putt her off with a very critical remark about her work. She prompted that remark by mailing me she would quit. I phoned to learn why, she wisely refused to tell the name of the other person but I could convince her to stay. Her work may not win prizes, but that was no point for me. She loved to do it and put effort in it. So I declared that were two strong reasons for me to also put effort in her. She stayed and slowly but surely progressed :-) Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] diagrams
> The colors in that book don't correspond > to the system as we know it know. Allways make a legend when publishing, and look for it when reading > a verbal description has to be translated > into an image in the student's head > before she can follow the instruction. The image is like a roadmap and woman are unfamous when it comes to reading roadmaps. You still have to translate the diagram into decisions when to make a stitch with which bobbins. Like roadmaps we sometimes need a person or gps-gizmo sitting next to us telling when to turn left or right. > A colored diagram, which instructs pinhole by > pinhole just doesn't afford such freedom, > or give such responsibility to the lacemaker. > Is this good or bad? I don't know. Might be necessary. Perhaps we need both. Reading diagrams to start learning. Transform prickings or photographs into diagrams as a next step. On the go discover your own road to adjust, alter and finaly design. > Yes, Lorelei! I've always felt like the > diagram was a diagrammatic version of a > computer algorithm. Proven with http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com Like the gps-gizmo it shows diagrams together with verbal instructions that do exactly match. No more mistakes in the translation. Drawback: there are allways different working orders possible for a single diagram, the application shows just one. You would have to create the diagram several times to show the different working orders. On the other hand, the diagram can prove that different working orders produce exactly the same diagram. Like the 3-pair star is broken down in two different systems/rythms of actions on https://kantelier.wordpress.com/category/english/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace diagrams
> Also you are one of the 'thinkers' ... Many do not and > faithfully continue follow diagrams for years without > thinking about how it all works. They are my concern. Why worry so much? One mans ceiling is another mans floor. Of course you can try to encourage. Someone called teachers with diagrams lazy. When one of my students finds a pattern with too little instructions for her skills, I'm usually too lazy to create a full diagram. I just make snippets for the spots where they have problems or I expect difficulties. jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] lace facebook / bone lace
> Could there be Facebook for Lacemakers? Call it iLace ? > Who could start it? There is aready flickr, seems to have some active members, not me. We have had some discussions in the past about bone lace. Two and two put together: http://www.flickr.com/groups/bobbinlace/pool/page28/ Which contains http://www.flickr.com/photos/perignon/378598800/in/pool-879847@N24/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Ravelry
> Search engines won't find any online content that > is specified as "private". Ravelry could solve that problem, > but evidently have not. And they should not. That is the whole point in marking something private. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace diagrams / twist
> I recently took a class where > the teacher said she doesn't mark the twists. This creates > confusion. Drawing twists makes a diagram more error prone. Better no marks than wrong marks. So it is better to teach them by mouth in those situations they don't come natural with your level of understanding of the lace. It also depens on whether you are a tc-er or ct-er where the twists should be drawn. No twists makes the diagrams universal. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Jana Novak PDF books
> Thanks for the information, Liz. > This site however, does not show the 4 "Scan Books" on the > Moravia site. > >> http://www.ateliermb.ch/ 3 of the 4 covers below properly link to PDF's Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Making lace in beautiful places
> Where do you make lace that is pretty? I worked on a milanese palm tree on the Nile with the actual trees floating by on the banks of the river. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace site with pattern downloads (and lace for kids)
to get a frame trasnslated, you can right-click a frame to open it in a new tab or window, then paste the following in front of the address http://translate.google.com/translate?u= Below some links to save you a few clicks and keystrokes, though you might have to paste the lines together Hjem = home = http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.nytiknipling.dk/start.html Nyheder = news = http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.nytiknipling.dk/nyheder.html Download = http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.nytiknipling.dk/downloads.html Links = http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.nytiknipling.dk/links.html Vestival 2001 = http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.nytiknipling.dk/festivalen.html Vestival 2001 = http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.nytiknipling.dk/festival2004.htm l - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Re: Hanging in bundles and sequence
Debora an other spiders For a false footside, hang bobbins in abab cdcd then you have already one twist. Hang them abba cddc for a twistless false footside. If you start with some cloth stitch braid where the end meets the start, hang your bobbins aabbccdd. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] crapponne
Hello Spiders I don't know the exact details of the recent disussions about croponne, but I just stubled about these albums. http://defilsendentelles.over-blog.com/albums.html Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] cloth stitch edge (was: roller pillow and pins)
> I would suggest, however, that you chose a pattern that does *not* have a cloth stitch edge passive that never sees a pin. I'm actually working with such a type of pattern and having no trouble at all. The cloth edge passive sees one just twist per repeat and I'm reusing pins after about three repeats. The thread is linnen so not very slippery. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] cloth stitch edge
Clever solution Alice. Changing back would only be needed when you have less thread for the passives on you bobbins. One could also consider changing a single thread per pin. Jo > I solved my problem of straight passives by switching threads > once a repeat... doing a change stitch with the worker pair > on one row, and switching back with the change stitch on the > next row. This anchors the threads really well. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Perfect leaves
Hello spiders Unbelievable perfect leaves! http://domanjova.eu/?p=3982 Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
