[lace] Tatting in fiction

2010-09-23 Thread Su Carter

Oh my, this is a classic:


And I will go and see about dinner, Reginald, remarks
Mrs. Owenson, settling her cap with a pleased simper at herself
in the glass, if you can spare me.

Spare you! What the devil good are you to any one
I should like to know! sitting there with your eternal knitting

Not knitting, Reginald, love, remonstrates Mrs. Owenson,
knitting's old-fashioned. Tatting.


It's from One Night's Mystery by May Agnes Fleming, a 19c Canadian  
author.



See you,
Su
Williamsburg, VA

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Re: [lace] Lace in Popular Mechanics

2010-07-17 Thread Su Carter

Clay,

It took a bit of head scratching, but I've got the gist of it. In  
1660, with the end of the Protectorate and the Restoration of Charles  
II, Virginia was once again seen as a source of income for the Crown.  
As a result, the Governor and General Assembly had to knuckle down  
and show their loyalty!! Ha! They'd gotten used to being fat and rich  
and ignored by the Mother Country -- now they were suddenly expected  
to send the money home again to fatten the newly reinstated Royal  
coffers. If everybody in Virginia sent big orders for silk and lace  
and stuff along with the tobacco sent to London to be sold, well,  
that meant they had way too much left over after Charles took his  
share so he'd just have to take more!! Raise the taxes!! After all,  
they were just here in Virginia to work for him -- what did they need  
with fancy clothes  to hoe tobacco??


So the General Assembly was trying to do anything it could to get the  
people to stop ordering extravagant goods from England until the King  
stopped paying attention.


By the time Williamsburg was the Capitol everybody was back to  
wearing lace and ordering loads from England of the very latest  
fashion. Remember, Williamsburg fashion was know for being only a few  
months behind the very latest in London. If the latest lace and the  
patterns for the latest lace arrived on the same ship, which do you  
think would sell first?


Su
Williamsburg, VA



On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:

I find that 1662 law in Virginia to be quite interesting!!  Of  
particular interest is the fact that the research in Colonial  
Williamsburg (a heavily endowed organization which recreates the  
17th century life in that town...  then the Capitol of Virginia)  
indicates that there has never been any archival indication of the  
existence of lacemaking in Williamsburg during that time, and  
therefore there is never any demonstration of the art of lacemaking  
in the historical village - which has always made me sad.  Now I  
have a clue...  there may have been a very good reason (legally,  
but not rationally!!).  I would also like to know if this law was  
ever repealed.


Clay


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Re: [lace] Securing prickings

2010-04-10 Thread Su Carter

On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:02 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:



Personally I feel that the pricking would not buckle so much if it  
was a thin Manilla-type card, but as mine are always paper with  
Contact, this is often a problem. I feel it has something to do  
with large areas of point ground, rather than the areas of half or  
whole stitch, and may well be the angle of the pins in those areas.


David



Hi David,

Oy, I hate lifting prickings -- I've had it happen with thin pricking  
card, thick pricking card, and Contact!!! Aaargh!


Yes, I agree that large areas of point ground are likely to be a  
problem and watching the angle of the pins VERY carefully generally  
sorts it for me. On the other hand, you could always leave out the  
pins altogether in the point ground. Or if that gives you heartburn,  
try pinning every other diagonal, or only leaving in 3 or 4 rows at  
the working edge and pulling the rest.


Good Luck!
Su, in finally back to normal spring weather
Williamsburg, VA

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Re: [lace] Mystery tool

2009-09-29 Thread Su Carter

Shirley,

Eureka -- googled special scissors and found cigar scissors -- aha,  
that rings a bell! So I refined the search and found out that some  
folks apparently pierce their cigar rather than clipping it.


Now why in the world was this cigar piercer in a needlework box? Did  
the needleworker smoke? Or maybe she hid it from her husband in a  
place he'd never look?


Su

On Sep 29, 2009, at 3:57 AM, Tregellas Family wrote:


Afternoon Everyone,

   I'm wondering if someone can help me please.  I've posted some  
pics on the Arachne webshots page (thanks Liz L for your help)  
under my name (Shirley T.) and if you are inclined please would you  
take a peek.  I'm trying to find out what this tool is called/used  
for.  It was found in a lady's needlework box from a deceased estate.
   Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Even the staff at  
'Collectors' - our Australian antique programme - can't seem to  
identify it but I know someone out there understands its use.

Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  in sunny Adelaide but the ground is still wet from  
the soaking its had these last few weeks.

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Re: [lace] Mystery tool

2009-09-29 Thread Su Carter

Shirley,

Oh look, there's one just like yours on ebay:  350183137862

Su



On Sep 29, 2009, at 3:57 AM, Tregellas Family wrote:


Afternoon Everyone,

   I'm wondering if someone can help me please.  I've posted some  
pics on the Arachne webshots page (thanks Liz L for your help)  
under my name (Shirley T.) and if you are inclined please would you  
take a peek.  I'm trying to find out what this tool is called/used  
for.  It was found in a lady's needlework box from a deceased estate.
   Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Even the staff at  
'Collectors' - our Australian antique programme - can't seem to  
identify it but I know someone out there understands its use.

Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  in sunny Adelaide but the ground is still wet from  
the soaking its had these last few weeks.

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[lace] lace (pins) in fiction

2009-08-30 Thread Su Carter
Likely this is already in the collection--the book has been out for a  
few years--but I've only just gotten around to reading it and now  
that I've recovered, dried my eyes, and picked myself up off the  
floor beside the sofa, I just had to share:



What's the most expensive pin ever made commercially, Stanley? said  
Moist quickly.


It was like pulling a lever. Stanley's expression went from agonized  
grief to scholarly cogitation in an instant.


Commercially? Leaving aside those special pins made for exhibitions  
and trade shows, including the Great Pin of 1899, then probably it is  
the No. 3 Broad-headed 'Chicken' Extra Longs made for the lace-making  
market by the noted pinner Josiah Doldrum, I would say. They were  
hand-drawn and had his trademark silver head with a microscopic  
engraving of a cockerel. It's believed that fewer than a hundred were  
made before his death, sir. According to Hubert Spider's Pin  
Catalogue, examples can fetch between fifty and sixty-five dollars,  
depending on condition. A No. 3 Broad-headed Extra Long would grace  
any true pinhead's collection.


-- Going Postal by Terry Pratchett


Su, recovering from her unexpected overdose of endorphins

Williamsburg, VA

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Re: [lace] Pretty object, but what is it?

2009-08-24 Thread Su Carter

Clay,

Oh my, lovely!!  What a wonderful find!!

How long are they?

Su


On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:

I have just uploaded a couple of picture to my folder on the  
Arachne2003 webshots.   Tiny Url is  *http://tinyurl.com/nwetd4***  
http://tiny.cc/8CFvC


While out running errands this morning, I spotted a pretty, ornate  
pair of very old scissors.  They are marked 800 (coin silver as  
opposed to sterling), and show what's left of some engraving on the  
blades.


But...  once I actually started looking at them, I suspected that  
they are not scissors at all!  The back blade, (referred to that  
way because when you look at that side, you're looking at the back  
of the two human figures), is solid across the whole blade portion  
of the implement.  On the *front*, the blade is just half as wide,  
and neatly fits into a recession of the back blade.  If you look at  
the first picture I've posted, you can see this (barely).  Neither  
of the blades is sharp, and they don't appear to ever have been  
sharpened.  So my question is, what are they?


I remember that when I took Honiton, we were encouraged to have a  
pair of dull scissors to help us with the handling of the threads  
(to make a swift bundle of the loose ends when starting a piece).   
Looking at this thing, I'm wondering if it were designed for just  
such a purpose.


Does anyone out there know what I've found??

Clay

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Re: [lace] Sue Carter?

2009-07-27 Thread Su Carter

HI Duchess, and all you other Arachnids out there, too!!

I'm here, though I do sort of have a modified identity ;-)  Along  
with my new e-mail, I've a new car, which obviously needed a new  
license plate!!! So if you're in Virginia and see a silver Honda with  
PTGRND honk and wave a bobbin!!!


Su

On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Tamara P Duvall wrote:


Hi, and sorry to bother everyone...

If Sue Carter (of Williamsburg, VA) is still on Arachne... Would  
she please get in touch? My e-mails to her get returned with the  
dreaded unknown user explanation...

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace] Pop goes the weasel

2008-08-18 Thread Su Carter
But Jeri, why would they measure knitting yarn? Measuring yarn on the  
weasel yields that all important Yards Per Pound (ypp) that weavers  
need to plan the loom set up - it's the same ypp that informs our  
lace thread sizes.


Su



On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From the primitive nature of this all-wooden equipment, I'd say  it  
measured
heavy yarn that would have been used  for knitting  sweaters, caps,  
and
mittens for men who worked in the woods or at sea,  as well as for  
the families of

many children.  Nothing fancy.


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Re: [lace-chat] What is Fried Mush? [formerly What are grits?]

2008-08-08 Thread Su Carter

On Aug 8, 2008, at 1:44 AM, Louise Hume wrote:



I prefer corn meal mush. It is prepared by cooking corn meal in  
boiling water.  It can be eaten then as porridge, or  poured into a  
bread pan and after it has cooled, slice and fry.


And serve with lots of warm maple syrup!! Oh my, that is a pure  
comfort food memory.


Thank you, Louise, you've made my day!

Su
Williamsburg, VA

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Re: [lace] RE: A question

2008-08-07 Thread Su Carter

Bingo!! Thank you Verla! I'm with you -- it's likely the twist.

Ann, you might try a 3-ply thread. Three-plies are supposed to be  
more neutral.

It would be an interesting experiment.

Or try a different manufacturer of whatever size thread you
normally use.

Hmmm, sounds like the next edition of Brenda's twisty snake  
research. . . ?


Su
in cloudy but bright Williamsburg, VA


On Aug 7, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Verla Davis wrote:


Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:52:39 +0100
From: ann.humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 01:52 AM 8/6/2008, you wrote:

I don't do much tape lace so it's probably down to my inexperience
but can anyone tell me why when I place the pin at the right hand
side of the work I get a nicely formed loop but when I work the left
hand side the loop is much smaller and not so well formed. I angle
my pins and tension the same but there is still a difference between
one side and the other. Hope this makes sense.
Ann
Yorkshire UK


Weavers have the same problem with selvages -- one is usually  
better than
the other.  Some say it's the right-handed, left-handed thing but  
most of it
is the twist of the yarn.  I see the same thing with bobbin lace as  
well.  S
and Z twist threads will result in the opposite affect on the lace  
to my

experience.

Verla in Prescott, AZ
Wishing I was with my mom and buddies at IOLI

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Re: [lace] Exhibition

2008-08-03 Thread Su Carter

Oh Jane, thank you –

I did a bit of googling and found his portfolio!!! Some good
shots of the lace to study more closely once my eyes are fully open ;-)

http://www.tricikel.net/

The portfolios ( his and his partner) are at the bottom of the page.

AND!!! Did anyone notice the Nov/Dec 2007 issue of Crafts Magazine?  
The cover is
a pricking and CRAFTS is spelled out in pins!!! Oh, and there's an  
article about
Urh and his lace making grandmother. I'm going to order the issue,  
just for the cover, but I'm
hoping for images of the lace in progress. Hmmm, maybe I'll order two  
copies -- so I can

frame one . . .

No more googling now -- need more coffee and some breakfast while I  
look at this stuff.


Su
Williamsburg, VA







On Aug 2, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Jane Partridge wrote:

On Friday night I had had an invite to go to the private viewing of  
the

Men Only exhibition at The Beetroot Tree (www.thebeetroottree.com)
which is a gallery at Draycott, in Derbyshire (not far from Long  
Eaton,
and Junction 25 of the M1, for those in the UK). One of the four  
artists

is Urh Sobocan (there is a saucer-shaped accent over the c), from
Slovenia, who designs lace which his grandmother then makes up. The
designs in the exhibition are based on his grandfather's WW2  
experience,
very similar to (but not quite as intricate as) the War Lace design  
that

was featured in the centre of Lace several years ago - and now at long
last I can see how that design could be made! The other three artists



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Re: [lace] The strange bobbin

2008-07-17 Thread Su Carter
Just to stir the brain cells a bit, let me point out that half (more  
or less) the population of Virginia did not come equipped with an  
English, or even a European background -- they were slaves, many of  
them no more than a generation from their African roots. And then  
there's the Native American culture to take into account as well --  
Montpelier is way out there on the fringes in Madison's time -- so  
the culture in the slave quarter would have been  an African/Native  
American/European mixture.


And as I was writing that I remembered a pair of ivory awls  
connected by a green cord that Jeanie Asplundh bought because they  
looked like they might be sewing related. It turned out, after much  
research, that they were used in lawn bowling, to determine which  
ball was closest to the ... oh darn, the little target one that I  
forget the name of. Anyway, these bobbin things would work great for  
that, with string run through the hole in the tips.


Thinking along the same lines, they'd be suitable to mark out seed  
lines in a veggie garden -- with a wire run through the hole to keep  
them together between plantings ... in other words, to my mind  
they're much more likely to be just about anything other than a lace  
bobbin.


Now, what  I want to hear is why Montpelier calls them lace bobbins.  
Is there some bit of Dolly mythology to support it? Or is it Martha  
envy? (You know, her 'tatting' shuttle!) Or could it be something in  
the post Madison history of the place? I'm intrigued.


Su
Williamsburg, VA

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[lace] Slough of Despond

2008-06-06 Thread Su Carter
Here's another interesting quote, but beware: she's very opinionated!


Although good Queen Adelaide had a pretty fancy for lace, she wore  
little of it, and it was left to Queen Victoria to revive the glory  
of wearing Brussels to any extent; and she, alas! was sufficiently  
patriotic to encourage home-made products by wearing almost  
exclusively Honiton, which I personally am not good Englishwoman  
enough to admire except at its latest stage (just the past few  
years), when lace-making, as almost every other art work in this  
country, is emerging from what, from an artistic point of view, has  
been one long Slough of Despond.

Chats on Old Lace and Needlework, by Emily Leigh Lowes, 1908


Su

hiding from the heat wave in Williamsburg, VA

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Re: [lace] RE: Fanny Kemble quote

2008-05-22 Thread Su Carter

Annette,

Your wish is my command :-)

It's from:

Records of Later Life
Henry Holt  Co.
1882
pp. 254-255

She was traveling in Europe in 1841 after spending some years in  
America -- most recently with her husband on his plantation in the  
South where she experienced slavery ...


I think all her books are available on Google Book -- she wrote lots  
and well, so be careful!


Su
Williamsburg, VA


On May 22, 2008, at 3:49 AM, Annette Meldrum wrote:


Dear Sue,
I loved the comment - it says so much.
Do you remember where it comes from? It would be brilliant to have  
the full

citation. Sorry if I sound too much like the Librarian that I am.

Annette in cold Wollongong Australia

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Hi all,

I chanced upon a lovely comment about lace by Fanny Kemble that I
thought you'd enjoy.


Frances Ann Kemble, 1841


Su Carter, enjoying a lovely day in
Williamsburg, VA, USA



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2008-05-21 Thread Su Carter
Hi all,

I chanced upon a lovely comment about lace by Fanny Kemble that I  
thought you'd enjoy.


I was much interested by the lace-works at Brussels and
Mechlin, and very painfully so. It is beginning to be
time, I think, in Christian countries, for manufactures of
mere luxury to be done away with, when proficiency in
the merest mechanical drudgery involved in them demands
a lifetime, and the sight and health of women,
who begin this twilight work at five and six years old, are
often sacrificed long before their natural term to this
costly and unhealthy industry.

I hope to see all such manufactures done away with,
for they are bad things, and a whole moral and intelligent
being, turned into ten fingers' ends for such purposes, is
a sad spectacle. I (a lace-worshipper, if ever woman was)
say this advisedly; I am sorry there is still Mechlin and
Brussels lace made, and glad there is no more India
muslin, and rejoice in the disuse of every minute manual
labor which tends to make a mere machine of God's
likeness. But oh, for all that, how incomparably inferior
is the finest, faultless, machine-made lace and muslin to
the exquisite irregularity of the human fabric!...

Frances Ann Kemble, 1841


Su Carter, enjoying a lovely day in
Williamsburg, VA, USA

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Re: [lace] museum exhibit - flour sacks

2005-04-27 Thread Su Carter
Nifty! There's an exhibit on-line at his Presidential Library -

http://hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/collections/flour%20sacks/

What a treat - there's even a pair of bloomers ;-)

Su

Alice Howell  wrote:

 I just opened my paper and read about a display of flour sacks stitched for
 Presiden Hoover by people in Belgium years ago.  It's the 50th anniversary
 of the museum, and they are celebrating with this exhibit.  A few quotes
 and story summary from the full page article: follows.
 
 Framed, beautifully embroidered and painted cotton flour sacks are
 temporarily replacing the usual art on the walls of ... the boyhood home of
 Herbert Hoover.
 
 Several hunderd of the sacks were given to Hoover by Belgians in gratitiude
 for his work in providing famine relief to their country during World War I.
 
 The (relief) commission shipped nearly  700 million pounds of flour to
 Begium.  Over 14 million empty flour sacks were created by the famine
 relief.  (The commission) controlled where they went and what was done with
 them, for two reasons:  Fear that the good flour would be taken out and
 replaced with inferior flour, and since cotton wadding was used in
 munitions, they wanted to keep them out of the hand of the enemy.  They
 accountd for every single one of them.
 
 The sacks were distributed to professional schools, convents, artists and
 public sewing workrooms.  They were used for clothing and to make a wide
 variety of items..
 
 Women embroidered, stenciled or painted (several hundred) sacks, sometimes
 using threads from their own clothing, or sewing in swathes of Belgium
 lace. One of the sacks on display is embellished with a delicate white lace
 swatch and white embroidery.
 
 -
 
 Now...I MUST go see this exhibit, on only for one month, and see just how
 many have lace on them, what kind, etc etc.  Anyone else who is in the
 Newberg, Oregon area during May might stop by.  They're open 1-4 Wed
 through Sunday.  Signs on the highway point to the turn.  It's a block off
 the main highway.  It's been several years since I stopped by, so now is
 the time.
 
 Happy lacing,
 Alice in Oregon -- whose Beds fan is 25 percent done.
 
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Re: [lace] lace pillow storage

2004-12-10 Thread Su Carter
Elaine,

I'd be concerned about using plastic of any kind to store pillow or lace -
not just the off gassing, but also trapping moisture inside with the
possibility of mold, mildew, etc.

I've managed to save the carton my pillows came in or stumbled on one that
would work, so I can pretty much pack them all away safely - it sure helped
when I moved back down here from Massachusetts!

On the other hand, I'm painfully aware that the the cartons are not in any
way archival and are going through nasty acidic changes so . . .

I have a wonderful book given me by a devious friend ;-)

Books, Boxes and Portfolios by Franz Zeier - I just checked, it's on Amazon.

The friend wants some portfolios, but I immediately noticed his section on
boxes - I love boxes. He gives directions for boxes with corners and ROUND
ones. It didn't take me long to figure out that a custom built box for each
pillow, made of archival board and paper and glue, would be a wonderful
thing. And the potential for covering/decorating each differently . . .
well, I was right round the bend with plans. Of course, that was 2 years ago
and nary a pillow box have I made. But I have made a number of folded boxes
from archival paper and covered them with some interesting Japanese papers I
had around - a nice safe lovely container for lace threads!

All of this is a long winded way of saying - you could make a box (believe
me, a sturdy box is an engineering feat and he even has instructions for
hinged lids and insert trays!) or you could find a local bookbinder who does
work for a museum/library to archival standards and have one/some made to
your specifications.

Su

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 I have been storing pillows in the square plastic bags that sheets sets come
 in.  They have zipper closures   However, the textile conservator that spoke
 at The Lace Museum last spring was not happy about this choice and felt that
 there would be off gassing from the plastic.  Does anyone have a comment on
 this.  I have to admit that I hanen't removed the pillows from these bags yet
 because I haven't seen anything better.  The specialist archival catalogs that
 we 
 have at the museum do not list anything that is really the right shape.
 I had never seen the wreath boxes that are being discussed, but I doubt if
 they are made of archival material either.
 
 Elaine Merritt
 
 The Lace Museum
 552 South Murphy Avenue
 Sunnyvale, CA 94086
 
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: kerosene lamps

2004-11-26 Thread Su Carter
Oh T, you're so right - box irons are wonderful. We have some reproduction
ones here at CW and the first time I used one I was hooked.

What did you iron on? We used a heavy woolen blanket with a heavy linen
sheet on top. That was another lesson for me - I promptly recovered my
ironing board with an old blanket and a piece of hempen canvas.

Su

Tamara P. Duvall  wrote:

 On Nov 25, 2004, at 4:07, Barbara Stokes wrote:
 
 if the flat irons weren't cleaned properly when heated on the stove
 then black marks on the clothes!
 
 VBG We did have electricity in Warsaw for all the time I can remember
 (and my parents told me it was there before I could remember g)...
 But I spent some 4-5 months out of every 12 in the village (my
 father's family) until I was 7 (and went to school), and 4-10 weeks for
 the next 7 yrs. They didn' get electricity till mid 60ties (they got
 running water in '00; same year they got their 'puter/modem installed
 g), so it was all kerosene lamps/candles and funny irons, and water
 drawn by a bucket from a well (I found out - recently - that Polish
 wells were better designed than Ukrainian ones g)...
 
 But the irons weren't heated on the stove, and didn't need much
 cleaning; they had a soul... :) The iron itself was a metal shell,
 with a hinged door in its tail, which was kept closed with a little
 hook/loop contraption. The soul was a solid piece of metal (iron?),
 about an inch thick and shaped like the bottom of the iron, and it fit
 inside the shell. The soul was what got popped into (not on) the -
 coal-powered - stove to heat up, till it was literally red-hot (souls
 are hardy animals and can withstand abuse g). Each iron had 2 or 3
 souls to go with it, so there was no break in the ironing process; as
 one soul got too cool to iron even the delicates, another one -
 red-hot - replaced it, and back we went to linens, without missing a
 step, while the cooled off soul got revived in the heart of the
 fire...
 
 By the time I was 12 (and ironing all of my own stuff and some of the
 family stuff as well), I *missed* those old-fashioned irons... The
 electric ones - this was before thermostats - scorched if you
 daydreamed for a second, and you had to plug/unplug them all the time.
 With the soul-powered irons, it took a major diaster, and leaving the
 iron flat *on* the item while you saw to the disaster, before you had a
 scorch mark.
 
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 Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
 
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: soulful irons (was: kerosene lamps)

2004-11-26 Thread Su Carter
Tamara P. Duvall  wrote:

 A folded (sometimes twice-folded) woolen blanket, which was used for
 only that purpose, so it was very slick, with all the fuzz beaten down.

Yup, my ironing blanket is an old one I inherited from my great aunt.

 
 PS When you use the box irons at Williamsburg, how do you sprinkle the
 fabrics (linen and cotton) which require steam? My aunt and cousin in
 the village, and my Mother in Warsaw... All of them could take a small
 mouthful of water, close their lips tightly, blow... And *mist* a
 really big area all at once. Me, I never learnt that skill, and had to
 dip my fingers in the bowl, then shake them over the item. Much less
 efficient, and much less uniform.
 

Oh ho, that makes me laugh! I'd forgotten all about it. My grandmother did
the  mouth trick, but only on really fine things like hankies. Otherwise she
used the sprinkler bottle and rolled things up for the moisture to even out.

At CW we either used fingers or a bundle of fine twigs bound together like a
little broom unless we got to the things before they were quite dry - that's
best for linen.

Su

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[lace] Interesting use for lace

2004-10-18 Thread Su Carter
Something finally came along that brought me out of my long lurk-mode.

On another list I subscribe to, one on 18c history, they've been discussing
toilet paper - as in what was used before the purpose made rolls of today.
This morning someone posted a link to an amazing collection of tp trivia,
including . . . wait for it . . . French royalty used lace!

http://www.toiletpaperworld.com/tpw/encyclopedia/navigation/funfacts.htm

(It's a long page so if you're in a hurry to find it best search the page
for lace.)

Is this an answer to that perennial question -- what to give the person who
has everything?

Su
in delightfully cool Virginia

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