Fwd: Re: [lace] computer programmers and lace

[Susan McKinnell]

I was a programmer/designer for 42 years mostly at AT and Bell Labs 
and I watched the bobbin lace my mother did (she was a pre-med grad) for 
years - she started in 1976 - but I didn't start lace myself until a 
little over 2 years ago when I found a local group and started with 
them.  I was a math major in college and I also write Scottish Country 
dances.  I see my love of figures and patterns (abstract algebra was my 
favorite subject) as all related to each of these areas of interest.

Sue McKinnell (outside Chicago, USA)


On 5/27/2018 5:51 PM, Anita Hansen wrote:
> Hi Sharon,
> I first saw and discovered such a thing called bobbin lace in the early 
> 1980’s but I didn’t take my first lace class until 1996.
> However, I was indeed a software engineer (we preferred that term over 
> computer programmer as we also did software design) in 1983-4+. Around this 
> timeframe our company (Rockwell Collins) was an early adapter of the Ada 
> programming 
> language!https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)
> I worked with Ada for the rest of my career at the company.   My lace work 
> has been mostly after leaving my job in 2000. Again, I don’t see any 
> relevance between code and lace. But it was fun learning about Countess Ada 
> Lovelace and her work with Charles Babbage as one of the first females to 
> “program” a computer!
> Anita Hansen
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa ... where I have been busy this past week sewing bobbin 
> bags!
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Re: [lace] computer programmers and lace

[Brenda Paternoster]

I’m not a computer programmer, just a computer user, but I’ve used drawing
programs to manipulate straight grid laces (torchon) into curved shapes since
the mid 1980s - IIRC it was 1984 when I first played around like that.

For some early examples of what I could do, and the hardware/software used
have a look at
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/lacepics/lacepics.html

Brenda

> if any of you are computer programmers, 1984 and 1985 was a long time ago,
> but do you remember if you had any bright ideas about the resemblance
> between lace making or lace-patterns and coding? And if so, in what
> software language?

Brenda in Allhallows

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Re: [lace] computer programmers and lace

[H M Clarke]

I started out as a programmer in 1983 (I did a sandwich degree in maths and 
that was my year ‘in industry’). I had been introduced to lacemaking in the 
1970s since one of my grandmas made lace (btw, I’m still tracking down 
information to send to Suffolk). 

I worked in the defence industry using languages specific to our computers. One 
(Fixpac) was a low level language where we were directly manipulating the bits 
and bytes - space was at a premium in those days. The other (Coral) was a 
higher level language which compiled down to Fixpac (both were proprietary to 
my then employer, Ferranti, as was the hardware). This was probably about as 
close as you could get to a lacemaking equivalent. However at no point did I 
associate one with the other. 

To me the link is logic (one of my strengths, and weaknesses) with the ability 
to also be creative in how you manipulated the component parts to produce 
something powerful. Isn’t this also the basis of the early machines for making 
lace? 

IMHO, to see lace within a computer programme would be unlikely unless you were 
programming something similar - weaving perhaps? For me, you would probably 
need to go back to when the lacemaking machines were being conceived and have 
somebody who made lace by hand and then saw how to translate the steps into a 
mechanised version. 

As usual, just my C$0.02. 

Helen, who is trying to get the dog to realise that it is too hot for a walk at 
the moment!



> On May 27, 2018, at 13:10, Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Friends
> if any of you are computer programmers, 1984 and 1985 was a long time ago,
> but do you remember if you had any bright ideas about the resemblance
> between lace making or lace-patterns and coding? And if so, in what
> software language?
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon

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[lace] computer programmers and lace

[Anita Hansen]

Hi Sharon,
I first saw and discovered such a thing called bobbin lace in the early 
1980’s but I didn’t take my first lace class until 1996.
However, I was indeed a software engineer (we preferred that term over computer 
programmer as we also did software design) in 1983-4+. Around this timeframe 
our company (Rockwell Collins) was an early adapter of the Ada programming 
language! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)
I worked with Ada for the rest of my career at the company.   My lace work has 
been mostly after leaving my job in 2000. Again, I don’t see any relevance 
between code and lace. But it was fun learning about Countess Ada Lovelace and 
her work with Charles Babbage as one of the first females to “program” a 
computer!
Anita Hansen
Cedar Rapids, Iowa ... where I have been busy this past week sewing bobbin bags!

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Re: [lace] computer programmers and lace

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Sharon,

It wasn't quite as early as 1984, but in the early 1990s I was aware of how
much lace and software seemed to require the same skills, and how much they
were alike, lace being essentially binary in action. The software language
I was using then happened to be C, but it's been the same for any other
language I've used, even graphical languages.

(BTW, if you are choosing a language for your character, it would be much
better to choose the language depending on what business the character is
in.)

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Sun, May 27, 2018, 16:14 Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi 
wrote:

> ...resemblance between lace making or lace-patterns and coding? And if so,
> in what software language?

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[lace] computer programmers and lace

[Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi]

Dear Friends
if any of you are computer programmers, 1984 and 1985 was a long time ago,
but do you remember if you had any bright ideas about the resemblance
between lace making or lace-patterns and coding? And if so, in what
software language?

Thanks
Sharon

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[lace] Computer coding

[Anita Hansen]

Ahh yes, Ada Lovelace! I knew about her long before I discovered lace! Our 
company and my group in particular was an early adopter of the Ada Programming 
language back in the early 1980’s. It was fun to learn a female was one of the 
first computer programmers!
Anita Hansen

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Re: [lace] Computer coding

[Karen ZM]

On Sun, 20 May 2018 at 10:20 AM, Gilian Dye  wrote:

> It is often forgotten that one of the earliest computer programmers was a
> woman - Ada Lovelace...


Ironic to this discussion that her surname was Lovelace 🙂

Karen in Malta

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[lace] Computer coding

[Gilian Dye]

It is often forgotten that one of the earliest computer programmers was a
woman - Ada Lovelace, daughter of Lord Byron - who in the 1840s did much of
the work that led to Charles Babbage's *Analytical Engine*, widely
considered to be the first computer.
Also Jacquard cards (basically computer punch cards) were in use on
lace-making machines as early as  1834 .
Gil

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[lace] computer aided design

[Lorelei Halley]

In addition to Jenny's new site on facebook, laceioli has a group called
COMPUTER AIDED DESIGN. But it includes discussions of all and any graphics
software useful for lace design.
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/computer-aided-design

Lorelei

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[lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[scotlace]

I have phoned my local computer shop but the person there is not familiar with
Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer has gone into full screen and I lose all
the directional arrows, bookmarks etc.  The only way to move from one site to
another is by switching off and then on again.  

My question is does anyone
know of a key or combination of keys which will restore the status quo?  I waa
told to try F10 but that doesn't work and I had already tried Escape before
phoning.

Patricia in Wales

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Re: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[Catherine]

Hi Patricia

Try pressing the 'Esc' key.  Hope this works for you.

Catherine Barley

Sent from my iPad 

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 On 7 Nov 2014, at 15:59, scotl...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I have phoned my local computer shop but the person there is not familiar with
 Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer has gone into full screen and I lose all
 the directional arrows, bookmarks etc.  The only way to move from one site to
 another is by switching off and then on again.  
 
 My question is does anyone
 know of a key or combination of keys which will restore the status quo?  I waa
 told to try F10 but that doesn't work and I had already tried Escape before
 phoning.
 
 Patricia in Wales
 
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Re: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[iseadler]

or - press 'alt' and 'esc'.  That should get you back to your normal window.
Good luck.

Ingrid
 
 
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Sent: Fri, Nov 7, 2014 11:27 am
Subject: Re: [lace]
Computer tech help if possible, please


Hi Patricia

Try pressing the 'Esc'
key.  Hope this works for you.

Catherine Barley

Sent from my iPad
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www.catherinebarley.com

 On 7 Nov 2014, at
15:59, scotl...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I have phoned my local computer shop but
the person there is not familiar with
 Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer
has gone into full screen and I lose all
 the directional arrows, bookmarks
etc.  The only way to move from one site to
 another is by switching off and
then on again.  
 
 My question is does anyone
 know of a key or
combination of keys which will restore the status quo?  I waa
 told to try
F10 but that doesn't work and I had already tried Escape before
 phoning.

 Patricia in Wales
 
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RE: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[Agnes Boddington]

Hello Patricia 

Have you tried system restore?
When you swtich the computer on, you get a screen with shortcuts etc.
There should be a search bar (mine is bottom left). In it type system
restore, and a list of programmes comes up incl. system restore or some
similar name.
Click on it and on the screen you'll get open system restore.
Next screen says something like: Restore system files and settings.
There should be a list of several restore points.
Choose one and click on next, and it will say Confirm your restore point.
Cliock Finish and the computer should go back to an earlier point in time.
This may solve the problem.
Agnes Boddingon
Elloughton UK


Subject: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

I have phoned my local computer shop but the person there is not familiar
with Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer has gone into full screen and I
lose all the directional arrows, bookmarks etc.  The only way to move from
one site to another is by switching off and then on again.  

My question is does anyone
know of a key or combination of keys which will restore the status quo?  I
waa told to try F10 but that doesn't work and I had already tried Escape
before phoning.

Patricia in Wales

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Re: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[The Lace Bee]

Standard button hit for full screen on and off is F11

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

 On 7 Nov 2014, at 15:59, scotl...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I have phoned my local computer shop but the person there is not familiar with
 Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer has gone into full screen and I lose all
 the directional arrows, bookmarks etc.  The only way to move from one site to
 another is by switching off and then on again.  
 
 My question is does anyone
 know of a key or combination of keys which will restore the status quo?  I waa
 told to try F10 but that doesn't work and I had already tried Escape before
 phoning.
 
 Patricia in Wales
 
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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[scotlace]

 Bev emailed with much the same advice but it didn't work.  This time, on
aol, it did!!  Thank you very much to all who replied.  I appreciated it very
much.  I have a sinus and chest infection and the weather is absolutely fowl
and so I didn't want to take my pc to the shop.

Patricia in Wales

 

 


Oh,
I hate it when I do something and Firefox goes full screen.  I just 
found the
button to make mine go full screen.  In that mode I found if I 
moved the
mouse up to the very top of the screen, the buttons appeared 
for me.   I
could then click the one in the upper right to make it 
smaller again. ( one
to the left of the red x)

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 I have phoned my local computer shop but the person
there is not familiar with
 Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer has gone
into full screen and I lose all
 the directional arrows, bookmarks etc.  The
only way to move from one site to
 another is by switching off and then on
again.



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Re: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING

[Ruth]

That's odd, as I just went directly to the page with the download
available. The address is

http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=demos

And I'm downloading the demo right now. Hope it helps.

Ruth Budge wrote:

Let me assure you all, I have been nagging ILSoft since March to get on and
put a demo version of the programme on their website.   The page actually
says it is available, but even I can't find it!

Miranda, I'll email you personally with a copy of the demo version, and I'll
also email ILSoft again!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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Re: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING IL Soft

[Sue Babbs]

I emailed Ian this morning about the lack of demo link and he put it up 
straight away, along with a couple of the patch files.


Sue
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That's odd, as I just went directly to the page with the download
available. The address is

http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=demos

And I'm downloading the demo right now. Hope it helps.


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RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING

[Ruth Budge]

Ruth, I think that's because you probably were the first person to use Ian's
revamped website!!

The email before yours was from Ian, and read as follows:

Hi Ruth

Thanks for the email.

I have now updated the website to include a menu item at the top of the page
which leads to a demo page where the demo of Lace 2000 can be found.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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That's odd, as I just went directly to the page with the download
available. The address is

http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=demos

And I'm downloading the demo right now. Hope it helps.

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[lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING

[Faye Owers]

Hi Everyone,

I use AutoCad for my patterns, but  it is not user friendly and 
therefore I have not mentioned it.  I use it a work so it is second 
nature to me, but if I did not have it I would use Lace 2000, it is 
quite friendly to use and there is lots of help out there if you need 
it.  

I don't draw it out first I just go straight to the computer and 
open all the blocks that I think I will need and start inserting and 
moving, just like a jigsaw it is great fun.


Faye Owers
Tasmania
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RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING

[Sheree]

I have not tried Lace 2000 but when I went to their website I could not find
the link to the demo they mention. Does anyone know where I can get a copy
of it so I can try it out before I buy it?  I have just recently started
designing on my computer instead of pen and paper. I would love to try it
out.

Miranda


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Subject: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING


Hi Everyone,

I use AutoCad for my patterns, but  it is not user friendly and 
therefore I have not mentioned it.  I use it a work so it is second 
nature to me, but if I did not have it I would use Lace 2000, it is 
quite friendly to use and there is lots of help out there if you need 
it.  

I don't draw it out first I just go straight to the computer and 
open all the blocks that I think I will need and start inserting and 
moving, just like a jigsaw it is great fun.


Faye Owers
Tasmania
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RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING

[Ruth Budge]

Let me assure you all, I have been nagging ILSoft since March to get on and
put a demo version of the programme on their website.   The page actually
says it is available, but even I can't find it!

Miranda, I'll email you personally with a copy of the demo version, and I'll
also email ILSoft again!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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I have not tried Lace 2000 but when I went to their website I could not find
the link to the demo they mention. Does anyone know where I can get a copy
of it so I can try it out before I buy it?  I have just recently started
designing on my computer instead of pen and paper. I would love to try it
out.

Miranda

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[lace] computer aided lace drafting

[Teresa Thomas]

I am usually a lurker here. I enjoy reading everyones posts. So please 
forgive me.
For now I have a big question about computer aided lace drafting 
programs. I found 3 programs. After reading past posts and many personal 
web sites it had looked like Lace 2000 would be absolutely wonderful. I 
have recently found out that ILSoft is not supporting nor updating this 
software. Nor are they answering emails with inquires and questions 
about updates, support or patches for know bugs. The version they are 
selling is an 2002 version, four years old. To me this looks like an 
orphan program that ILSoft is still collecting money on. The information 
on there web site about a down loadable Demo as well as patches and 
updates at The Lace Studio are all bogus. These issues are a problem 
for me. I did just read Ruth Budge post. It is quite a coincidence that 
I had planed to cover this issue with an inquiry here.
The other 2 programs that I found are Easy Lace and Knipling. Any feed 
back from users about these programs? At least these companys appear to 
be keeping current and updated. Please give me feed back about the pros 
and cons for Easy Lace and Knipling software.

A big thank you to everyone.

Teresa Thomas
From sunny south Texas, right on the Gulf of Mexico.

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RE: [lace] computer aided lace drafting

[Ruth Budge]

Theresa, I'll grant you that the ILSoft website needs some attention, but I
don't agree that the information is bogus.

There was a huge upheaval at ILSoft last year...which has left the
owner/programmer of Lace 2000 trying to do everything in his company by
himself - and he is not a lacemaker.  And, because of its relatively small
turnover, Lace 2000 is a minor part of his business, and gets an accordingly
minor part of his attention.

I know that he used a work-experience student to update his website...and
obviously that's where the confusion arose about referring people to The
Lace Studio website.  The Lace Studio is no more, so that's why the links
don't lead anywhere.   I have written to England about that matter.

However, the programme IS still supported - and as I've repeatedly said, all
anyone has to do is email me for help and support.   I will also send you
privately a demo version of the programme.

As for updates...the version of the programme being sold is the 2002
version, and includes any patches which were needed by owners of earlier
versions of the programme.  The version which needed patches has not been
sold for several years now.   Having said that, I only know of one small
programming error, and I do have a solution for that, and have sent it to
several Arachnes in the last couple of weeks - it is free of charge to any
owners of the programme.  

Anything I say about Easy Lace (for which I wrote the instruction book,
similar to the one I wrote for Lace 2000) or Knipling will not be seen as
unbiased, because of my involvement with Lace 2000.

Sufficient to say that, long before I had any involvement with the company
at all, I had tried the others, and chose Lace Designer Gold (which was the
forerunner of Lace 2000) for myself.   Since then I have tried the others
again, and still I keep coming back to Lace 2000.  

Both Easy Lace and Knipling are far more technical in nature, and from my
observations of Easy Lace users both in Australia and England, it appears to
be less intuitive and harder to come to terms with...the language is more
difficult for lacemakers to relate to.

I will say one more thing - my direct involvement with ILSoft now goes back
about 6 years...and most of the work I've done in that time is on a purely
voluntary basis.   So I'm not trying to sell you on Lace 2000 in order to
make money - in fact, as I've also said before, I'm only allowed to sell
within Australia, so it does not affect me whether anyone anywhere else in
the world buys Lace 2000 or not. 


Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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Teresa Thomas
Sent: 01 March 2006 00:28
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Subject: [lace] computer aided lace drafting

I am usually a lurker here. I enjoy reading everyones posts. So please
forgive me.
For now I have a big question about computer aided lace drafting programs. I
found 3 programs. After reading past posts and many personal web sites it
had looked like Lace 2000 would be absolutely wonderful. I have recently
found out that ILSoft is not supporting nor updating this software. Nor are
they answering emails with inquires and questions about updates, support or
patches for know bugs. The version they are selling is an 2002 version, four
years old. To me this looks like an orphan program that ILSoft is still
collecting money on. The information on there web site about a down loadable
Demo as well as patches and updates at The Lace Studio are all bogus.
These issues are a problem for me. I did just read Ruth Budge post. It is
quite a coincidence that I had planed to cover this issue with an inquiry
here.
The other 2 programs that I found are Easy Lace and Knipling. Any feed back
from users about these programs? At least these companys appear to be
keeping current and updated. Please give me feed back about the pros and
cons for Easy Lace and Knipling software.
A big thank you to everyone.

Teresa Thomas
 From sunny south Texas, right on the Gulf of Mexico.

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[lace] Computer

[delia.palin]

Hello everybody!

I am having loads of trouble with my computer and can only get online once a
day, if I am lucky.  'They' say it could be weeks before it is sorted out
properly.  However, I am still intending to participate in Secret Pal etc, but
please don't be worried if I can't post things online as quickly as I should.

If anyone needs me my telephone number is 01594 510519 (UK).  If I have real
problems, I will try to get in touch with Brenda by phone.

Thank you.

Dee Palin
in the Forest of Dean - where things using TECHNOLOGY aren't reliable!!!

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[lace] Computer programs

[Christine Lardner]

Hi, I'm thinking of treating myself to a computer program to assist in 
designing and drawing patterns. Does any one out there have any experience 
of these? I have downloaded the demo for Lace 2000, and that seems quite 
easy to use. Are there any others?
Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation
Christine (frosty but sunny Oxford)
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Re: [lace] Computer programs

[Dorte Zielke]

There is on the homepage www.knipling.de allso a program, I have both, but
like 2000 best, it is a lot easyer to learn by playing with it.
Dorte
www.f2.pg.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos
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 Hi, I'm thinking of treating myself to a computer program to assist in
 designing and drawing patterns. Does any one out there have any experience
 of these? I have downloaded the demo for Lace 2000, and that seems quite
 easy to use. Are there any others?
 Any comments would be appreciated.

 Thanks in anticipation

 Christine (frosty but sunny Oxford)

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Re: [lace] Computer swalled Grandma

[Dora Smith]

LOL!

Well, we got this one!

Now, I would have been tearing my hair out too - only I'm not a grandma so
sending e-mail doesn't USUALLY leave me in this kind of a quandary - but
then you realized that!

 It sounds as if there could conceivably be a problem with how your e-mail
is set up or functioning - definitely get your husband on it when he gets
home.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
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From: Catherine Barley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:32 AM
Subject: [lace] Computer swalled Grandma


 I have tried twice to send this to 'lace chat' - hope I will have better
luck
 this time on 'lace'.  Sorry for posting to the wrong list.


 Oh Maxine I just love it!

 I rushed upstairs to use my laptop when I saw my third attempt to send a
reply
 to lace appear on the screen downstairs - typedl out my reply - it went
into
 the 'outbox' and there it still remains!  Run downstairs again to the
study to
 use my husband's computer (good job he's gone off to golf or he would be
using
 it himself) and try to send this one.

 I've just about had enough of these silly games this morning, wasting
valuable
 lacemaking time.  I'm off to start stitching before I tear my hair out!  I
 will try later on to send the message on the laptop.

 Catherine Barley
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[lace] Computer problems

[LACEELAIN]

In a message dated 5/10/2004 7:43:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear friends.  I have had a computer failure that erased my entire address 
book.
I would very much appreciate  a short email from those of you who correspond 
more or less regularly with me so that I can build my list once more!
Many thanks.
Elaine Merritt   
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Re: [lace] Computer problems

[Clay Blackwell]

Oh Elaine !  I'm so sorry to hear you had that trouble!
I've spent the last three days fretting over my computer,
which fortunately never completely died.  In the meantime, I
had a chance to back up all my data and to print out my
address book.  The problems aren't resolved yet, but I HAVE
finally gotten a good response from my computer's tech
department, and help is on the way.

Because there are so many nasty worms and viruses out there
these days, I just thought I'd suggest to everyone that you
do the same TODAY...  you may be very glad you did (although
I hope you won't ever have need for it!).

Clay

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 In a message dated 5/10/2004 7:43:53 AM Pacific Daylight
Time,
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 Dear friends.  I have had a computer failure that erased
my entire address
 book.
 I would very much appreciate  a short email from those of
you who correspond
 more or less regularly with me so that I can build my list
once more!
 Many thanks.
 Elaine Merritt
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Re: [lace] Computer programs

[G.Kister-Schuler]

I use 'knipling' (the producer is nearly a neighbour) and I can add, that this
program is able do fill a ground with patterns. It offers a 'library' where you
may create and store your own ground.
Greetings from Chemnitz,
Gabriele

Jean Nathan schrieb:


 I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free in
 the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it able
 to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is
 the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the
 pricking into a technical drawing.

 Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Computer programs

[Viv Dewar]

I use Corel Draw too
I learned the basics from LACE (someone did a couple of articles in
1999/2000 )

Jean
What version have you got - I can e-mail a sheet of dots (45degrees or 55
ish for Bucks)
Please e-mail me privately
Viv
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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: [lace] Computer programs


 I keep thinking about using a computer, but still haven't made up my mind
 which way to go. I've got CorelDraw, but until someone tells me how to
make
 the page full size and put a dot on it (and I used to teach computing!!)
 just to get me started, I don't seem to have time to start exploring that.
 It's all very well saying make a small elipse and then copy it if you
 already know how to make a small elipse with this program.

 I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free
in
 the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it
able
 to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is
 the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the
 pricking into a technical drawing.

 On the other hand, I'm quite happy with graph paper and pencil.

 I also managed to turn Steph's pre-prepared grids of dots pale blue with
 Paint Shop Pro so I can see my black dots and markings more easily, but
 can't remember how I got it perfect. Since the first one, the grids have
 been distorted when I open them, so I need to concentrate and write down
how
 to do it. Particularly useful for non-45 degree grids.

 Jean in Poole

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[lace] Computer programs

[Jean Nathan]

I keep thinking about using a computer, but still haven't made up my mind
which way to go. I've got CorelDraw, but until someone tells me how to make
the page full size and put a dot on it (and I used to teach computing!!)
just to get me started, I don't seem to have time to start exploring that.
It's all very well saying make a small elipse and then copy it if you
already know how to make a small elipse with this program.

I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free in
the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it able
to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is
the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the
pricking into a technical drawing.

On the other hand, I'm quite happy with graph paper and pencil.

I also managed to turn Steph's pre-prepared grids of dots pale blue with
Paint Shop Pro so I can see my black dots and markings more easily, but
can't remember how I got it perfect. Since the first one, the grids have
been distorted when I open them, so I need to concentrate and write down how
to do it. Particularly useful for non-45 degree grids.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Computer programs

[Ilske und Peter Thomsen]

am 01.09.2003 9:41 Uhr schrieb Jean Nathan unter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I keep thinking about using a computer, but still haven't made up my mind
 which way to go. I've got CorelDraw, but until someone tells me how to make
 the page full size and put a dot on it (and I used to teach computing!!)
 just to get me started, I don't seem to have time to start exploring that.
 It's all very well saying make a small elipse and then copy it if you
 already know how to make a small elipse with this program.
 
 I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free in
 the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it able
 to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is
 the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the
 pricking into a technical drawing.
 
 On the other hand, I'm quite happy with graph paper and pencil.
 
 I also managed to turn Steph's pre-prepared grids of dots pale blue with
 Paint Shop Pro so I can see my black dots and markings more easily, but
 can't remember how I got it perfect. Since the first one, the grids have
 been distorted when I open them, so I need to concentrate and write down how
 to do it. Particularly useful for non-45 degree grids.
 
 Jean in Poole
 
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Hello lacefriends,
In my opinion one can use every fine design-Software you have or belong to
your PC.
I visited a class where the teacher used Coral-Draw, I was handicaped it was
for Windows and I am a Apple-user. But I managed it but I got the impression
that it is to much work. If you are a teacher and needed dozens of copies
than it is perhaps worth. I find it easier to use grids when you will do
something with laces who have one. But if you, like me design free pattern
than you couldn't use Knipling or Easy-lace. Than you need a professional
design-programm and/or a painting board.
Ilske from Hamburg in Germany

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[lace] Computer Programs

[W N Lafferty]

Liz Asks

 Spiders - this has made me think - how many of you who design use computer  programs 
 and which do
you use

My DH is a retired surveyor and we have a (once very expenseive, now
useless to him) survey software package based on a 3 dimensional
grid.   Two dimensions are perfect for drawing up lace!   I drew myself
up a grid of dots which I copy for each new pattern, then edit each
dot I want to a different colour and layer in the program until I have
enough for one repeat.   I then get rid of all the base dots, copy and
rotate to my heart's content and print out at any scale I want to.

There is a sample on my website - the Cooma Kiss hanky edge.
I have no intention of copyrighting it, everyone is welcome to copy it,
use it, print it elsewhere (eg in newsletters), share it around.  I respect
copyright for those who are trying to earn some money from their
books, but I am unlikely to design anything worth putting in books!

Noelene i Cooma
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 Liz


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  Sorry if I mislead using the term mat. All I am doing is making a
  rectangle out of a pricking for a corner (using CorelDraw 10). It will
  have a fabric inset in the center. It has both a wavy footside and
  headside.
 



 Regards

 Liz Beecher

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