[lace] variegated thread for BL
In message 20100617020233.shthf.174453.r...@cdptpa-web09-z02, hottl...@neo.rr.com writes Hello All! In from the garden for the night so will toss in a comment about variegated threads. Shortly after I started making lace, I fell in love with Oliver Twist threads. Variegated thread is a good way to punch up a simple project so give it a try. Use of colour in lace is all about experimentation, though the effect it will give can be planned with the help of a working diagram, coloured crayons and an understanding of the paths individual threads will take according to the stitches used. There is a difference, however, between variegated and space-dyed threads - in that the mass produced variegated threads tend to have shorter lengths of each of their colours, and not all blend from one colour to the next. Space-dyed tend to be a longer thread length before going into the next colour, and the colour change can be quite dramatic. Some threads are dyed in different shades of one colour, graduated so that they blend from one to the other, others are a mix of several different colours. Some patterns work well - a torchon sampler bookmark I designed some time ago (for an Arachne bookmark swap - it has been published since, in Lace 113, January 2004) has been successfully worked using variegated colours - I think it was a Sulky in a pinkish-mauvish-red (It wasn't me that worked it on that occasion). Others, well large areas of roseground do not work, unless the shade difference is very slight. This is because having each thread of a different colour or shade, the individual thread paths show up very clearly. When the thread (I'm thinking DMC Special Dentelles 80) has purple on one bobbin and yellow on another, the colours may go well in colour theory but in practice, in a standard roseground square, they look awful! However, a metallic variegated, such as Madeira's Astro, can have quite a shimmering effect in a trail of cloth stitch. The one use of variegated threads I have really sat back and said wow to, was when Bev adapted my asymmetric square pattern and used a mix of plain and variegated threads - perhaps for those who haven't seen it, Bev could post a link to the photo? It is also shown on the back cover of the Canadian Lacemaker Gazette, Vol.20 No 3, Spring 2006. A lot depends on the overall effect you want to have, and sometimes the use of only variegated threads can work, sometimes they don't, and sometimes the pattern needs a mix of variegated and plain. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] variegated thread for BL
Jean Oliver is in England and her dyed cottons are definitely available in UK. There's no website for Oliver Twists yet, but they are the first business mentioned on http://www.workshopontheweb.com/traders/admall.htm For a bit of info about using variegated threads in BL, and a few pics have a look at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/variegated/variegated.htm Brenda On 17 Jun 2010, at 03:02, hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: In from the garden for the night so will toss in a comment about variegated threads. Shortly after I started making lace, I fell in love with Oliver Twist threads. They are easy to use, come in a wide range of yummy colors are a nice size for simple Torchon patterns. They are also good for machine quilting. The cotton ones are available in the US but I've only seen the silks in the UK. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] variegated thread for BL
Hello All! In from the garden for the night so will toss in a comment about variegated threads. Shortly after I started making lace, I fell in love with Oliver Twist threads. They are easy to use, come in a wide range of yummy colors are a nice size for simple Torchon patterns. They are also good for machine quilting. The cotton ones are available in the US but I've only seen the silks in the UK. A friend designed an airedale pattern bookmark for me between the OT thread the ground, the result was a textured appearance sort of like my dog's curly fur. Mr. Rudy rocks!! Variegated thread is a good way to punch up a simple project so give it a try. Happy user, usual disclaimers. Sincerely, Susan Erie PA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Variegated thread again
Following Bev's lead I have just scanned all the pieces of BL I have which are made with variegated thread and uploaded them to http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/variegated/variegated.htm Also a list of colour repeat lengths for the threads I have. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] variegated thread pictures
Hello everyone My internet connection has been uneven this weekend but today I finally uploaded several photos to my blog, of some experiments with variegated threads. My scanner was puzzled by the fabric backgrounds I used, and I should re-do them with paper background. But - another day, when the line speed is better. Warning, the three pictures could appear bright and busy! http://www.looonglace.blogspot.com/ --- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would have replied earlier as I use variegated thread a lot in my coloured idrija, but Brenda replied for me. I am currently in England to help Jacquie organize my dad's funeral. He passed away on Saturday last week (10th) and I haven't had time to write before. Malvary (normally in Ottawa) in Sanderstead, Surrey - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Perhaps even more accurate: copy the pricking slightly larger and sling the worker around its pins. Jo So, hot tip for using variegated thread - wrap the thread around various widths of card to test the limits of the colour sequence. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think Steff has hit the nail on the head here. I don't often use variegated thread but if I do I choose subtle changes of colour. I called in to Vivienne of Presencia UK yesterday and was looking at her display of (colour photocopies of) the lace they sell patterns for. One was worked with ecru passives and ecru/lilac variegated workers for the zig-zag trail and it looked very nice. At Lace Guild Convention a few weeks ago I did a workshop session with Malvary making coloured Idrijia. We used variegated passives with solid colour workers, changing the workers to suit the design. On the pillow it looked a bit bland but when it came off the pillow I was pleased with it and it's now in a photo frame alongside several dolphin ornaments in my conservatory. http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/arachne/convention2008.htm (I have finished the flower - will try to get it photographed and uploaded this weekend!) On the whole though, I prefer using solid colours. Often lots of them in the same piece, but so long as you avoid half stitch, there is so much more control over which colours to choose and how it will work out. Brenda Any hints about using variegated thread successfully? I've been using some Valdani thread as workers in a piece of Torchon and it's comming out in regular stripes - not the effect I wanted at all. Other times I've used it and the patterns been completely lost and a mess. What's the trick? All the pieces that people are pleased with use a variegated thread with a small range of colour variation - shades of one colour, or two adjacent colours on the colour wheel. The types of variegated thread that have several colours in break up the item visually so that for me the shape of the lace itself is lost. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is a hot tip for using variegated thread (first some preamble) It depends on the effect the lacemaker likes, doesn't it? but so long as you avoid half stitch, Or meet it head on ;) After some thought, what Brenda does with thread and lace inspired me about the core of the matter - via thread wraps: So, hot tip for using variegated thread - wrap the thread around various widths of card to test the limits of the colour sequence. That will give an idea of the colour behaviour in a cloth stitch area, if using the variegated as weavers, and will also show whether or not the sequence is a repeat or at random. Get to know the thread and it will work for you :D As to colour choice in the variegateds - entirely up to the lacemaker ;) On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Steff has hit the nail on the head here. I don't often use variegated thread but if I do I choose subtle changes of colour. On the whole though, I prefer using solid colours. Often lots of them in the same piece, there is so much more control over which colours to choose and how it will work out. All the pieces that people are pleased with use a variegated thread with a small range of colour variation - shades of one colour, or two adjacent colours on the colour wheel. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Variegated thread
Roseground had Valdani thread for sale on their stall at The Chepstow Lace Suppliers' Fair (run by Ann and Tim Parker). When I spoke to Pat about using the variegated she showed me a couple of pieces she had done. In both of them, the variegated was limited to cloth stitch trails, the rest of each being in white. I was impressed with the results. She herself has been too busy to respond to this discussion. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hallo, because of that striping effect this kind of varigated thread is seldom uesed in industry if fo any reason what so ever we realy need a varigated thread we will do it a bit differend we then use a gimped thread the core yanr is then an even coloured thread which matches the most common ground colours of the thread (varigated ) which is used for gimping if this is don whit evrytime a little space between the gimping you will have a slightly underbroken pattern which will never give you any stripes. i lack good proper english to explain it so for some it wiil be jibberisch but try to immagine... this kind of thread is never offered to the hobby market because most of you will find it not special and don't seet he connection to the why of it i have offered that kind of thread to several markets but no way they did no twant it so what kin you do to mach it a littel bit you take that varigated thread and take an other thread on the same bobbin together and slightly twist them to give a gimping effectnot the same but it will give you an advantage. beleve me this way will do one disadvantage the threads are becoming thicker which might give you the disadvantage in certain patterns. francis Alice Howell schreef: Variegated threads can be tricky. The color changes attract attention away from the pattern. If you have an intricate pattern don't put variegated thread in it. I did a small 's Gravenmoerse pattern with variegated thread and the pattern was very hard to see among the different color shades. Yet, if you use the variegated ONLY on the cloth stitch trail of a pattern, it can be exquisite. My friend did that on a scarf pattern and it turned out a prize winner. The length of the thread in one color before it changes makes a big difference. I have been making roses with a pricking that is all half stitch. It's the shaping of the rose after the lace is done that makes this rose nice. Since there is essentially no 'pattern' in the lace, there is a lot of scope for using variegated threads. I made some with the variegated only on the passives, on both passives and worker, and just on the worker. This was larger scale thread...DMC Cordonnet 30. The color changes were many inches apart on this intended-for-crochet thread, but worked out fine in this case. I particularly liked using a solid color in the passives and the variegated (say...red and white) for the worker. Each color would do 8-12 rows before changing. This was enough space that it looked like whole petals alternating from lighter to darker. I acquired a spool of thread with color changes every half inch or so. A bookmark made of it was disappointing. The constant change of color distracted from the pattern. The solid color bookmark of the same pricking was much more attractive. When a variegated thread is mixed with a solid color, the eye blends them. Change one of the threads, and you get an entirely different look. In general, I suggest keeping a thread that changes color limited to a simple area of the item, such as cloth stitch sections. This will let the color be the star of the show without competing with an intricate pattern at the same time. Also, different types of lace will respond differently to being made with variegated threads. Experiment a bit, but be aware that some things will not work out as well as hoped. Then again, some of them will be absolutely amazing. Alice in Oregon -- expecting record high temp of 96+ degrees fahrenheit tomorrow. Rather a shock after below normal temps all spring. But it's only for 4 days and then the cool returns. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any hints about using variegated thread successfully? I've been using some Valdani thread as workers in a piece of Torchon and it's comming out in regular stripes - not the effect I wanted at all. Other times I've used it and the patterns been completely lost and a mess. What's the trick? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] variegated thread
Generally speaking, I don't like very much coloured laces, however I found that to use variegated colour in working pairs (torchon technique), just in the area of wholestitch and outside head of the lace, is really attractive. The stripping effect has been for me too, an effect to avoid, and I agree with Francis that the solution was to use a thinner thread, as it is Sulky Guttermann, and to wind the working pair with variegated thread, two threads together. I didn't need to twist them. Then,I worked the ground and other stitches with ecru or white thread, Finca bolillos #20. The stripping disappeared and the result was a new mixed colour. Just my experience. Carolina. Barcelona. Spain. Carolina de la Guardia http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego Witch Stitch Lace - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Variegated thread
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:35:56 +0800, Hilary wrote: Any hints about using variegated thread successfully? I've been using some Valdani thread as workers in a piece of Torchon and it's comming out in regular stripes - not the effect I wanted at all. Other times I've used it and the patterns been completely lost and a mess. What's the trick? All the pieces that people are pleased with use a variegated thread with a small range of colour variation - shades of one colour, or two adjacent colours on the colour wheel. The types of variegated thread that have several colours in break up the item visually so that for me the shape of the lace itself is lost. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Variegated thread
Any hints about using variegated thread successfully? I've been using some Valdani thread as workers in a piece of Torchon and it's comming out in regular stripes - not the effect I wanted at all. Other times I've used it and the patterns been completely lost and a mess. What's the trick? Hilary Wedderburn Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way that variegated thread works out is related to the length of thread that each color occupies and how well it matches or doesn't with the width of the lace you work across. If the thread changes color at some even multiple of the width of the work, it will look stripey. It usually works out best is the is enough of one color to work a couple of times across the width of the lace and then changes in the middle of a row. Stripes are an effect of short color changes, which is what the Valdani threads do. ( I have some, and just checked.) Patty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Question is, what sort of patterns best suit variegated yarn? Cloth stitch or half stitch diamonds/trails? Big or little spiders? Sounds lovely! What are the colors? The elements that, IMO, best show off variegated threads are: - Cloth (CTC) stitch trail, where the worker pair is variegated. You can make everyone variegated, but that may be muddy if the range of colors is too extreme (like red-to-green, which will make brown). Blocks of cloth stitch can also be nice, but a continuous trail is even better. - Whole (stitch ground (CTCT p CTCT) areas, because the pairs stay in a vertical lines and the color changes will be independent of the neighbor pairs. - Fans with a single worker going out and in, either in cloth (CTC) or whole (CTCT) stitch. - Half (CT) stitch; with everyone variegated so the whole thing blends to a heather (assuming the variegations aren't too extreme), or with just the worker thread variegated. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Variegated thread
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:49:17 +1000, Noelene wrote: At a Canberra craft fair last week, I purchased a couple of hanks of a variegated yarn 60% cotton, 40% viscose in wonderful colours. It's called Vittoria, from Filatura di Crosa in Italy, each hank has about 1,400 metres, and the thread thickness is about equivalent to Bockens 40/2 (22 wpc). It has a lovely silky look to it. I'd like to make a deep Torchon edge around a square of linen. Question is, what sort of patterns best suit variegated yarn? Cloth stitch or half stitch diamonds/trails? Big or little spiders? I would think it would have to be very simple, a busy pattern would be lost in variegated. Anyone got any experience in this? The piece I made with variegated thread that I think showed the thread off to best advantage was a hairpin crochet hanky edging. The loops in hairpin change following the thread colour changes, as there is only one thread. The best use I ever made of variegation in bobbin lace was as you suggest a fairly simple pattern, a bookmark from Barbara Underwood's 20 Lessons in Bedfordshire Lace, containing leaves and half stitch buds. It is (I think) the first bookmark pattern in the book. -- Gratitude is merely the secret hope of further favours. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Variegated thread
At a Canberra craft fair last week, I purchased a couple of hanks of a variegated yarn 60% cotton, 40% viscose in wonderful colours. It's called Vittoria, from Filatura di Crosa in Italy, each hank has about 1,400 metres, and the thread thickness is about equivalent to Bockens 40/2 (22 wpc). It has a lovely silky look to it. I'd like to make a deep Torchon edge around a square of linen. Question is, what sort of patterns best suit variegated yarn? Cloth stitch or half stitch diamonds/trails? Big or little spiders? I would think it would have to be very simple, a busy pattern would be lost in variegated. Anyone got any experience in this? Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] variegated thread
Robin wrote: I used variegated thread for my Chrysanthemum lace class with Cathy Belleville, and it worked beautifully! I used silk floss (Caron Waterlillies, Thread Gatherer Silk 'n' Colors, and Gloriana). Just curious, what size threads do these embroidery thread compare with? Janice Blair - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
