RE: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-30 Thread Ruth Budge
Yes, Brenda, you're right.Lace RXP does work with BootCamp.Not being
a Mac user, I don't know the other programmes mentioned by Janice, but I do
know that, provided you have the "right" programmes on your Mac operating
system, it is possible to use Lace RXP and indeed, other Windows-based
programmes, on a Mac.

Ruth
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Subject: Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

I daresay it would work with BootCamp too, but I've gone down the Adobe
Illustrator route now and I'm happy with it.

Brenda

On 30 Jan 2011, at 17:30, Janice Blair wrote:

> My SonIL spent a day working on my MacBook Pro to make Lace RXP work 
> on it.  He made it work using  X 11 Application and WineHelper.  I am 
> not computer guru and have no idea how it works, but I do know I have 
> to use the fn key with the delete key to get rid of my mistakes.

Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I daresay it would work with BootCamp too, but I've gone down the Adobe 
Illustrator route now and I'm happy with it.

Brenda

On 30 Jan 2011, at 17:30, Janice Blair wrote:

> My SonIL spent a day working on my MacBook Pro to make Lace RXP work on it.  
> He 
> made it work using  X 11 Application and WineHelper.  I am not computer guru 
> and 
> have no idea how it works, but I do know I have to use the fn key with the 
> delete key to get rid of my mistakes. 

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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RE: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-30 Thread Jo
> I have no idea what Jo's Bobbinwork is supposed to do. I'm 
> probably being thick, but there doesn't appear to be any 
> instructions/help file on what to do with it. 

Under the links on the right of http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/
you will find links to user guides.

> I've managed to 
> get a couple of grounds in the window from the sample files, 
> but what I'm supposed to do with them after that, I don't 
> know. 

You can make variants, such as reduce a "vierge" (or however that is claaed
in English) to a roseground or whatever is in between. You can change the
colors of threads to see how the threads run through the ground and plan
some "Dick durch dunn" variation (http://tinyurl.com/4b935xg). A twist more
or less can have a big influence. The "how to" is available in Dutch:
http://tinyurl.com/6ezazgu

A tinied automated translation: http://tinyurl.com/4jtvhpj
If the slightly more computer literate contribute by adding an English
translation or their own way of explaining, or even add more how to pages to
the wiki, I might (don't hold your breath) get encouraged to resume
development some day.

> There doesn't seem to be a simple way of drawing fans, 
> marking rose ground, tallies, spiders, etc as there is with 
> Lace 2000/R-XP, so I suspect it's intended for something more 
> advanced than I'm interested in.

These functions are "not yet implemented". Please stop suspecting and start
reading: compare the "what" and "in practice" on the home page
http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/ following the link to the issues might
be a bit too technical for you but that could also shed some light on my not
yet implemented intentions. Except solving technical puzzles I desperately
need gui designers to help thinking. So Achim, a chance to turn your general
critisism into something practical and reply to isssue 33 ;-)

Jo

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Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-30 Thread Claire Allen
Apologies for not trimming my last post people.

I just hit reply without thinking. Doh!


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Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-30 Thread Claire Allen
I have had a look at eazydraw this weekend and I must admit it's really not for 
me. I have an old version of Illustrator which I shall stick with and as I am a 
student at present I shall take advantage of the Adobe 80% student discounts 
and get CS5 very soon.

 
Claire Allen
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Crafty stuff I want to show off.



On 30 Jan 2011, at 10:42, Brenda Paternoster wrote:

> I do have a Mac and I also have Knipling (the Mac version) but like Jean I 
> just don't get on with it and it's gathering dust on a shelf.  From time to 
> time I've looked at Jo's Bobbinwork, and had a dabble with EazyDraw but again 
> I don't get on with them.  Lace 2000/Lace R-XP has never been available for 
> Mac.
> 
> In the end I bit the bullet and bought Adobe Illustrator and I can do all I 
> want with it including bending and stretching patterns drawn on conventional 
> straight grids.  It takes time to draw the basic pattern and I have several 
> pre-drawn grids of dots to work with but the possibilities of what it can do 
> are enormous.
> 
> For three examples of what it can do see the patterns offered as the next 
> free pattern on my website
> http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/pattern/lacepattern.htm
> 
> Brenda
> 
> On 30 Jan 2011, at 08:24, Jean Nathan wrote:
> 
>> I don't on a Mac, but I do own Knipling and Lace 2000/Lace R-XP. I've had a 
>> look at Jo's Bobbinwork.
>> 
> 
> Brenda in Allhallows
> www.brendapaternoster.co.uk
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Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I do have a Mac and I also have Knipling (the Mac version) but like Jean I just 
don't get on with it and it's gathering dust on a shelf.  From time to time 
I've looked at Jo's Bobbinwork, and had a dabble with EazyDraw but again I 
don't get on with them.  Lace 2000/Lace R-XP has never been available for Mac.

In the end I bit the bullet and bought Adobe Illustrator and I can do all I 
want with it including bending and stretching patterns drawn on conventional 
straight grids.  It takes time to draw the basic pattern and I have several 
pre-drawn grids of dots to work with but the possibilities of what it can do 
are enormous.

For three examples of what it can do see the patterns offered as the next free 
pattern on my website
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/pattern/lacepattern.htm

Brenda

On 30 Jan 2011, at 08:24, Jean Nathan wrote:

> I don't on a Mac, but I do own Knipling and Lace 2000/Lace R-XP. I've had a 
> look at Jo's Bobbinwork.
> 

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-29 Thread Achim Siebert
> If you want a vector drawing program, you are better off getting the free
> open source Inkscape.

Yuck! ... dont get me started :). First of all, it's not a native Mac 
application - it's a Linux port that uses X11, so it doesn't even have a proper 
menu and doesn't use the standard Mac keyboard shortcuts. If you're a long time 
Mac user (maybe even still knowing MacDraw), then this is certainly something 
you wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
I tried it - it's slow, it flickers and it's a work in progress that might 
never reach version 1.0 ...

But please let's stop here, this is getting off topic, since there's quite a 
lot of applications that might work for lace design or just scaling and 
printing out scanned patterns - for people who like the typical Mac look and 
feel I still think EazyDraw might be a very good choice, since it's built 
around the features of OSX.

Cheers, Achim.

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Re: [lace] App for lace designers with Macs

2011-01-29 Thread Claire Allen
That definitely sounds worth a look. Thank you for the heads up on this.

Claire


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On 29 Jan 2011, at 11:32, Achim Siebert wrote:

> For those that use a Mac and are still looking for an alternative to the 
> expensive Adobe Illustrator as a vector drawing program for your designs, I 
> might have found something. I for one would rather spend those 800 $ for 
> bobbins, pins and threads.
> 
> The application is called "EazyDraw" and has quite a lot of features that you 
> only find in professional CAD progams. It used to be 99 $ for the download 
> version (and still costs that much from their website) - and now I found it 
> for 11,99 Euros in the new App Store (prolly 14,99 $ in the US).
> 
> Just had a short look into it and it seems quite capable and promising. This 
> might really be an alternative to the "big players" and certainly worth a try 
> for that price - the learning curve might be quite steep though, there's a 
> 350 page manual included ...
> 
> I used Intaglio up to now - not bad but it is more of a desktop publishing 
> program and crashes quite often on me.
> 
> No connection to the makers of this app - I just wanted to let you know what 
> might be a real snip (or bargain for the non-Europeans ;-) ).
> 
> Best regards from sunny but cold Berlin, Achim.
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