Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Thanks for your kind words Bobbi. I am very proud of my Miss Channers Mat and it hangs in my lounge in a very nice frame. I learned a lot when doing it. Sandra Straughair from the UK helped me get started but I had only done the first inch or so when she returned home and I was on my own then with only the picture of the original mat for guidance. What I learned by studying the picture, trying to see how it was done, is that in Floral Bucks point today we try our utmost to make the passives run vertically and the weavers to run horizontally to make the weaving as even as possible, but in the original the weaving runs every-which-way. The overall effect is impressive but the fine work is not. After a lot of thought I decided to do my own thing and try to get it a even as possible. It probably needed a lot more throwing out of pairs and bringing them in again than the original, and a lot of unpicking of various elements and redoing them as much as half-a-dozen times. There are parts of it that I am not 100% happy with but could not face doing it over again. At the end I counted the bobbins I had used and it was 350, many of them used over and over again. Best wishes to anyone who does it. It is worth all the work and is an education in itself. You will never be scared of a piece of Floral Bucks again. Janis Savage in Honeydew, South Africa, where summer seems to have made a reappearance after a very wet February. - Original Message - From: Roberta S Donnelly bobbil...@juno.com To: rhiannonm...@hotmail.co.uk Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly I've just checked my folder on Miss Channer's Mat and I have a note from Dec. 2004. The lace maker is: Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place South Africa lacem...@mweb.co.za Attached to the note is a picture of her finished piece. Which I confess is fantastic! I kept the note as inspiration for when I get around to doing it. David, I'm waiting to keep a photo of your finished piece too! ;-) What do you figure? Next week? ;-) Take care and talk to you soon! bobbi ~*~ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Quality exterior maintenance. The home and garden directory. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGBBArH4UnbFO1vSEcAKYM7GzQlho5O3UY9imTJ5r3kF26KtZrK5I/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Yes, I meant that it does have a picture of the completed mat, and a pricking, but no diagram of how to work it. Clay Sue wrote: Clay wrote Miss Channer's mat is just a pricking - no diagram Clay did you mean working diagram or picture of complete work as I have the latter? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Hi David - This version of Miss Channer's mat outshines your first effort with the mat! Can you tell me please... aside from reducing the size and using black silk instead of white cotton, what else are you doing to work this as Chantilly rather than Bucks? I applaud anyone who can take a pattern (and, as we know, Miss Channer's Mat is just a pricking - no diagram!), and work it in a way that pleases them. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA David in Ballarat wrote: Janice, I have reduced the pricking, and each block on my lace desk is 12 inches (30cm) square. So my doily is 9 (22.5 cm) long David I am curious, can you tell me what the dimensions are for Miss Channer's mat? It looks like you are working on a large block pillow and also that the mat fits onto one of the blocks. I had always imagined this piece was about 2 foot long. How big is your center block? Maybe someone else can answer the first question as David may have gone walk about at this time of the year. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
David in Ballarat wrote: Strange. This is the first time I've ever tackled her!!! ?? REALLY?! I am certain that way back on this list, someone else did the mat, and we saw frequent updates. For some reason, I thought it was you!! Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
I believe David was working on his resizing back in 2003 according to the archive- is this so? Nine inches does not seem very big; that must need some extra special patience. Has anyone got an updated source for the channer mat pricking as LACEFAIRY link is no longer in service? Top work tho' David- your three day updates are making me keep on working my edging to get my black thread out for some katstich patterns! Rhiannon Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:26:54 -0500 From: clayblackw...@comcast.net To: d.collye...@aapt.net.au; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly David in Ballarat wrote: Strange. This is the first time I've ever tackled her!!! ?? REALLY?! I am certain that way back on this list, someone else did the mat, and we saw frequent updates. For some reason, I thought it was you!! Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ Get 30 Free Emoticons for your Windows Live Messenger - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Hi Rhiannon - The mat pricking was produced and sold by Ruth Bean, but has long been out of print. Ruth Bean holds the copyright, and when contacted about re-publishing the mat, the response was that there were no plans to do that. Sorry!! Maybe someone else (in the UK, perhaps) has more recent information? Clay Rhiannon Mann wrote: I believe David was working on his resizing back in 2003 according to the archive- is this so? Nine inches does not seem very big; that must need some extra special patience. Has anyone got an updated source for the channer mat pricking as LACEFAIRY link is no longer in service? Top work tho' David- your three day updates are making me keep on working my edging to get my black thread out for some katstich patterns! Rhiannon Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:26:54 -0500 From: clayblackw...@comcast.net To: d.collye...@aapt.net.au; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly David in Ballarat wrote: Strange. This is the first time I've ever tackled her!!! ?? REALLY?! I am certain that way back on this list, someone else did the mat, and we saw frequent updates. For some reason, I thought it was you!! Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ Get 30 Free Emoticons for your Windows Live Messenger - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Clay wrote Miss Channer's mat is just a pricking - no diagram Clay did you mean working diagram or picture of complete work as I have the latter? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Forgot to say Rhiannon I also have the pricking if you need it Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Hi Sue, The Ruth Bean pattern pack contains the pricking and a picture of the finished piece. No working diagram. I have mine pricked and ready to go but then it's been that way for probably 5 years ;-) Good luck if you decide to do it! bobbi On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:59:00 - Sue 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk writes: Clay wrote Miss Channer's mat is just a pricking - no diagram Clay did you mean working diagram or picture of complete work as I have the latter? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK4 ~*~ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get free phone system price quotes from multiple dealers and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQZapadxPG1s5TWPukzbCjvYHVfeSeWciBickw2DEe0hbwOB2nYZL/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
I've just checked my folder on Miss Channer's Mat and I have a note from Dec. 2004. The lace maker is: Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place South Africa lacem...@mweb.co.za Attached to the note is a picture of her finished piece. Which I confess is fantastic! I kept the note as inspiration for when I get around to doing it. David, I'm waiting to keep a photo of your finished piece too! ;-) What do you figure? Next week? ;-) Take care and talk to you soon! bobbi ~*~ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Quality exterior maintenance. The home and garden directory. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGBBArH4UnbFO1vSEcAKYM7GzQlho5O3UY9imTJ5r3kF26KtZrK5I/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Rhiannon, I believe David was working on his resizing back in 2003 according to the archive- is this so? That was probably when I actually resized the pricking. I have to confess that I did it first in order that it would fit on to one A4 page :) And I'm fairly sure that I had to take it to the local printers to get that done as there was no way then that I could scan anything larger than A4 (still can't). However, today I would probably try photographing the pricking with my digital camera - then fiddling. Nine inches does not seem very big; that must need some extra special patience. Nah - patience has just never been an issue with me. The whole exercise of lace making is always like meditation therapy. That is of course until something drastic goes wrong. The language that issues forth then could hardly be called meditative!! (As witnessed the entire Melbourne Lace Group one days some years ago when a certain woman knock my pillow on to the floor). Top work tho' David- your three day updates are making me keep on working my edging to get my black thread out for some katstich patterns! Only too pleased to be of serv ice :) David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Miss Channer
How terrible! It sounds as though someone is very jealous of your beautiful work, and so feels she must hurt you by hurting your lace. I guess we can be grateful that we have gifts that make us happy, while they have bad feelings that make them miserable people. Among the lacemakers I know, there are at least two kinds... one sort celebrates the lovely lace that others make, and loves to see it develop and encourages the other lacemakers. The other will not even look at the lace of others, especially if other people are complimenting it. She wants all the attention on her lace. VERY unpleasant persons to be around. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA Ilske Thomsen wrote: such things are very ugly. Me once happened that on sunday eveing after a lace-meeting-weekend I remark that into the lace on my pillow which was 40 x 40 cm in a square and nearly ready somebody has made two cuts, so I could through away the whole thing. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Miss Channer
The mat was designed by Miss Channer, the original was made by Mrs Dixon of Clapham, Bedford in a class at the Technical Institute in Bedford around 1926. It was not part of the lace expo at Northampton in 1999. I think I have some info on the Warren sisters somewhere - now where is it? Diana in Northants - Original Message - From: Lynn Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Arachne' lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Re: Miss Channer I just did a two day workshop with Barbara Underwood in Sydney and the subject of Miss Channer's mat came up. She told the very unfortunate story of the disappearance of the original mat made by Miss Channer. It was on display with a furniture exhibition and when the exhibition closed and the furniture removed the mat disappeared, no one knows where it went except the person who took it, unless it was accidentally tossed when they tidied up from the exhibit. Anyone who knows Barbara could get further details, I was a bit sidetracked doing the Penelope stitch on another rolled tallie. Lynn in Wollongong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Miss Channer
I just did a two day workshop with Barbara Underwood in Sydney and the subject of Miss Channer's mat came up. She told the very unfortunate story of the disappearance of the original mat made by Miss Channer. It was on display with a furniture exhibition and when the exhibition closed and the furniture removed the mat disappeared, no one knows where it went except the person who took it, unless it was accidentally tossed when they tidied up from the exhibit. Anyone who knows Barbara could get further details, I was a bit sidetracked doing the Penelope stitch on another rolled tallie. Lynn in Wollongong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Miss Channer
Now THERE's a sad story!! I've done a number of pieces which I would like to display or to even enter in competitions, and because of my own reluctance to put my long and hard work up for grabs (in a worst-case-scenerio) I have not done so. However, I must add that if I ever (in my dreams!!) had pieces fit for display at an IOLI convention, the security there (regardless of where the convention occurs) is not to be surpassed... and I've never heard of any mishaps at a convention. However, on a more local scene, I've observed everything from a total absence of security to a moderate amount of security in venues which include our State Fair, county fairs, and exhibitions at local venues of historic interest. As far as the state fair goes, the security is sufficient to protect jars and jars of jellies and pickles, but questionably sufficient to oversee the security of laces, quilts, embroideries, or smocking. As a result, I've been very reluctant to send out pieces for display. On the other hand, if the event is one day, and I am invited to attend and demonstrate, then I will take along samples of my work for others to see. I know lots of other lacemakers who do this as well, and so far, we've had no disasters!! We're there, to keep an eagle-eye on things!! As far as our own Lace Day events go... (and this was also brought up just a day or two ago...), I suggest that as we are at the mercy of venues which also bring in the public, (and who knows... perhaps our own members?), we need to be careful about how we display our hard work. While it is a sad reality, the fact is that our beautiful lace may be irresistible to a very small number of viewers. Therefore, I suggest that it be contained in large and difficult-to-conceal items, such as scrap-books or framed pieces, or items of clothing that would be difficult to spirit off in a handbag. I absolutely adore and trust the vast majority of lacemakers I have ever met! Still... the odds are.. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA Lynn Scott wrote: I just did a two day workshop with Barbara Underwood in Sydney and the subject of Miss Channer's mat came up. She told the very unfortunate story of the disappearance of the original mat made by Miss Channer. It was on display with a furniture exhibition and when the exhibition closed and the furniture removed the mat disappeared, no one knows where it went except the person who took it, unless it was accidentally tossed when they tidied up from the exhibit. Anyone who knows Barbara could get further details, I was a bit sidetracked doing the Penelope stitch on another rolled tallie. Lynn in Wollongong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Miss Channer
Interesting. There is a very famous university in these parts, which has an art museum. It recently loaned a painting, valued at a few million, to another institution. I believe it was a Leger. When the painting was returned, its home museum didn't unpack the crate for a few months. When a faculty member was ready to bring around her students, as was her custom, it was discovered that crate and painting were missing. It is believed that the crate was discarded by workmen who assumed it was empty. Anyway, the painting is missing, and the art museum director has resigned. And the faculty member will no longer be recommending to her friends and colleagues that they loan or donate art to the museum. I have had lace bobbins neatly cut off my pillow (just two, side by side, very neat) at a workshop. It hurts too much to think that a fellow lacemaker would do such a thing, so I prefer to believe that it was an impulse that overtook someone casually passing through the room, either a guest at the hotel, or one of the hotel staff. I also have lost a mat edged with Binche that I took with me when demonstrating. I like to take nice lace along, thinking it may inspire a new lacemaker or two. When I think about it, despite the value that I placed on that lace due to the time and effort it took to work, and that it was a lovely design, I'm so grateful that I didn't lose the Bucks wedding fan that I had made for my daughter's wedding. The upshot is that I no longer take anything that I consider irreplaceable or very valuable. Even less valuable items I cover up, tie down, put away, etc. etc. Sad, but life eventually knocks some sense into even the most naïve of us. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:01 PM To: Lynn Scott Cc: 'Arachne' Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Miss Channer Now THERE's a sad story!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
