RE: [lace] There must be a better way!!
A variant on the tuning forks are bycicle spokes. Bend them around somthing and you have a half open safety pin like device to scoop up the bobbins. The little knob prevents the bobbins from rolling out. Works for continental bobbins. Not for unspangled midlands. T__| Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
I have just been trying out something new to bundle up bobbins: Jewellery pouches with draw strings, about 10x12cm. I bought 10 on ebay for £2.99 plus p/p. You put 5-6 pairs in each pouch, pull the string, then pin the pouch(es) out of the way on your pillow. For the bobbins to stay in the right order, I put some cord or shoe lace through the spangles. Only used them for the first time last night, and I find it better than unwieldy metal stitch holders. Agnes Boddington - Elloughtn UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
Hi Lorri - A picture of my Christina with the wings that my DH made has been added to my album in Webshots. ( http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/571334706pwYDpA ) I designed it, he crafted it. We had to go through three designs before I found the ideal shape and size. Clay On 4/9/2010 1:03 AM, Lorri Ferguson wrote: Is there a picture of this somewhere that we can view? Lorri Subject: Re: [lace] There must be a better way!! Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back part of her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and under the shelf. Maybe an adaptation of this. Cherry Knobloch Chesapeake, Va USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
For what it's worth, when I began studying Binche with Michael Giusiana, I quickly realized that with hundreds of bobbins on the pillow, I needed to find a system! I asked Michael about this, and his response was that successful bobbin management was what separated the girls from the women!! I've known people who avoid certain laces for particular reasons... they don't like to do xxx and so avoid it. My approach has been to overcome the weakness and move on. I tackled tallies - which opened up an entire new world for me, I tackled fine threads - which gave me such lovely laces, and then I tackled bobbin management. I won't say that this is my favorite part of making complex laces, but between the paddles, the long brass pins, and the wings on my Christina, I've got a system. The long brass pins don't go on the Christina though! I use those on flat pillows, to prop the loaded paddles on their ends, which means I can have quite a few more stored to one side than if I just stacked the loaded paddles on top of each other. And scooping and parking bobbins just becomes part of the rhythm of working with hundreds of bobbins. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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-I use the ones I make myself that I crochet. It holds as many bobbins as I want and then I stack them. Bobbins never fall out or change places. Instructions. chain as long as you want, I do 40. Single crochet back . The next row is double crochet skip 1 double crochet repeat to the end. Single crochet the next row on each double crochet and space. Repeat the last 2 rows again and there you go. Becca I use the tongue depressor/elastic band method a lot. It only takes a couple seconds to scoop one under a group of bobbins and hook the band over the other end. Then the bundles stack up fairly well, or at least lean against the pile of bundles. I guess, since I'm used to doing it, I seldom have a band not fasten, though I've known a few to fly through the air across the room if I don't hang on to them just right. I've tried layers of cloth but wasn't happy with it. I do it only in a pinch. Your question brought to mind the bobbin holder I got in Europe. It's a long U-shaped piece of wood with a long pin sticking out of the solid end. It's designed to scoop up a cluster of bobbins, and then be pinned upright on the pillow. It's a variation on the long brass pins used to scoop up bobbins and hold them vertically. In the U-shaped holder, the bobbins cannot fall out or get out of order. If I had more than one, it would be fun to test the theory. Maybe someone in Europe who has used these could comment. Alice in Oregon -- where we had a partly gray day but no rain. Apr 8, 2010 05:48:56 AM, dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Whilst I'm getting there and plodding on, I am just wondering whether there might be a better way - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
U shaped wooden tines, shaped like tuning forks, with holes near opening to pin to pillow, etc. Perhaps these devices need a stand, so the base could be set into a strip of two long pieces or perhaps better, a U shape. If the bottom edge of the U shaped device was squared off, or perhaps better, pegged, then they would sit better in a stand. In a pinch (since I don't have woodworking equipment where I live), one could use one of those bakeable clays, or even something akin to plaster of Paris to make a base from? Too bad a wooden wine rack would be too far away? I think one would have a lot of wear and tear on the pillow with heavier items being pinned near or on the edge of the pillow. Someone must have a woodworking aptitude that could develop something? Perhaps a bit like a large bobbin rack, but lower, and larger and longer, etc.? Just amateur attempts to stir creative solutions . . . Best,Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
I'm afraid that the ideas about racks and stands are not practical, because they would necessitate lengthening and shortening the leashes of each bobbin each time you put them in storage. I'm quite certain the joy would be gone forever if that had to be done!! Clay On 4/9/2010 1:11 PM, Susan Reishus wrote: U shaped wooden tines, shaped like tuning forks, with holes near opening to pin to pillow, etc. Perhaps these devices need a stand, so the base could be set into a strip of two long pieces or perhaps better, a U shape. If the bottom edge of the U shaped device was squared off, or perhaps better, pegged, then they would sit better in a stand. In a pinch (since I don't have woodworking equipment where I live), one could use one of those bakeable clays, or even something akin to plaster of Paris to make a base from? Too bad a wooden wine rack would be too far away? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back part of her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and under the shelf. Maybe an adaptation of this. Cherry Knobloch Chesapeake, Va USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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At 03:29 AM 9/04/2010, Cherry Knobloch wrote: Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back part of her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and under the shelf. Maybe an adaptation of this. H - -- can't see that working in my case. I'm using a large horse-hair filled cookie-pillow which sits on a round foot stool between the TV and me, so it's easily swivelled. I should have studied the pricking more thoroughly before I began the piece, and then I would have set it up on my large table-top desk, for which I thank dear Len Purcell every day I use it. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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I have the pattern in front of me, and see what you mean. There are an awful lot of pairs, especially in the horizontal leaves. Cannot think of another way but to use holders or similar. I'm quite interested how you get on, as I fancy doing this pattern myself, but am tied up with some floral Bucks for the moment. Agnes Boddington- Ellougthon UK David Collyer wrote: Whilst I'm getting there and plodding on, I am just wondering whether there might be a better way that our collective heads can come up with. At present I find I am having to place bobbins on holders for every single pass and this is really slowing things down. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] There must be a better way!!
has very large maple-like leaves with numerous veins, which require nearly all bobbins to be usable at any one pass. David that's the way many of the more intricate Maltese pieces are worked. I worked on a table centre which had as many as 250 bobbins in use at the corner and it is very tiresome and slow. In fact, Maltese, although beautiful, is not exactly my favourite lace to work. Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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David, When I was working on a Flanders piece I ran into a situation where I had to take a pair of workers all the way aross the pillow and back. I was too lazy to bind up the extra bobbins just to have to unbind them again half a minute later. So I used a cover cloth that I placed on top of the bobbins I had just passed through. Then I worked the other bobbins on top of the cover cloth. When I got to the other side of the pillow and started working back I worked until I got to the bobbins that were under the cover cloth. Then I bound up the bobbins I had just passed through, uncovered the bobbins that had been under the cloth and continued working. This did result in a very lumpy work surface, but I found that slowing down to work on the lumpy surface was not as bad as taking the time to bind and unbind the bobbins. I am not sure I completely understand your situation, so this suggestion may not work. But perhaps it will trigger an idea. Liz Redford Raleigh, NC, USA David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Dear Friends, There must be a better way! Any suggestions more than welcome. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
I use the tongue depressor/elastic band method a lot. It only takes a couple seconds to scoop one under a group of bobbins and hook the band over the other end. Then the bundles stack up fairly well, or at least lean against the pile of bundles. I guess, since I'm used to doing it, I seldom have a band not fasten, though I've known a few to fly through the air across the room if I don't hang on to them just right. I've tried layers of cloth but wasn't happy with it. I do it only in a pinch. Your question brought to mind the bobbin holder I got in Europe. It's a long U-shaped piece of wood with a long pin sticking out of the solid end. It's designed to scoop up a cluster of bobbins, and then be pinned upright on the pillow. It's a variation on the long brass pins used to scoop up bobbins and hold them vertically. In the U-shaped holder, the bobbins cannot fall out or get out of order. If I had more than one, it would be fun to test the theory. Maybe someone in Europe who has used these could comment. Alice in Oregon -- where we had a partly gray day but no rain. Apr 8, 2010 05:48:56 AM, dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Whilst I'm getting there and plodding on, I am just wondering whether there might be a better way - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
Is there a picture of this somewhere that we can view? Lorri Subject: Re: [lace] There must be a better way!! Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back part of her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and under the shelf. Maybe an adaptation of this. Cherry Knobloch Chesapeake, Va USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!
One more gizmo for collecting/holding bobbins is made by John Aebi. Imagine a wooden tuning fork with very long tines and no handle. The tines taper at the tips, so you can place it on the pillow and scoop the bobbins into it. There's a pinhole going through the tines at their tips, and another pinhole at the base (same direction as the one through the tips). By scooping bobbins into the slot between the tines and, if necessary, pinning through the tines, I can quickly put a bunch (up to 10 pairs of Swiss bobbins) aside in order. They're reasonably stackable. For longer storage, the forks can stack and be held in place with a long pin through several of them. I had 140+ pairs on my pillow for a 'sGravensmoerse scarf, stacked in these forks. However, I didn't have to constantly add/remove as frequently as David is doing. I find them faster than knitting stitch holders and tongue depressors/elastic, but still a bother. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
