Re: [lace-chat] Lives of the cat (was: seven)

2004-06-04 Thread Weronika Patena
I have a vague recollection that 9 is the right number, but I don't
remember any particular saying associated with it. 

Weronika

On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 09:15:03PM -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2004, at 19:58, Weronika Patena wrote:
> 
> >I think it's nine in Poland...
> 
> I've been trying to remember anything on the subject, and can't; 
> neither seven nor nine seems to ring any bells (Weronika, what's the 
> Polish phrase you remember?). All I can remember is that a cat "always 
> falls on 4 legs" (zawsze spada na cztery nogi), ie lands safely. In 
> extensio, that would mean that a cat never dies at all 

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[lace-chat] :-)) Male intuition

2004-06-04 Thread Jeanette Fischer
MAN'S INTUITION


   A woman was shopping at her local supermarket where she
   selected:

   a litre of semi-skimmed milk,
   a carton of eggs,
   a litre of orange juice,
   a head of iceberg lettuce,
   a jar of coffee,
   and a package of bacon.

   As she was unloading her items on the conveyor belt to
   check
   out, a drunk standing behind her watched as she placed the
   items in front of the cashier.

   While the cashier was ringing up her purchases, the drunk
   calmly stated, "You must be single."

   The woman was a bit startled by this proclamation, but she
   was
   intrigued by the derelict's intuition, since she was indeed
   single.

   She looked at her six items on the belt and saw nothing
   particularly unusual about her selections that could have
   tipped off
   the drunk to her marital status.

   Curiosity getting the better of her, she said "Well, you
   know
   what, you're absolutely correct. But how on earth did you
   know that?"

   The drunk replied, "Cause you're ugly."


Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.
_

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thanks

2004-06-04 Thread Sonja Sillay
   Dear Secret Pal in New Zealand,

Your parcel arrived a few minutes ago and earlier than I expected it is the
4th today - what a lovely surprise.

The bobbins will get spangled and in work on my pillow straight away and also
the cover cloth.
It is such a lovely print on the cloth and I will think of you when I see it.
Look forward to make up the hardanger kit.

Thank you very much for everything you sent / Sonja

Sonja Sillay in sunny Bristol UK
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Re: [lace-chat] taxes in Australia

2004-06-04 Thread lynn
>Helene said:  My biggest gripe since we've started a 10% goods and services
tax, is that
> for some things, they cahrge you a governement tax, *then" they charge you
> 10% on top of that, so you pay tax on the tax!! I'm not against paying
> taxes, but I think that really stinks!  It is depressing to think that our
tax free day is 9 months into the tax year.


For instance Helene, since we moved back from our disaster year down the
coast, we have to sell the 5 acres we bought to build on.  As we didn't
build, it is an investment property, therefore, when we sell, we pay 50%
capital gains tax on the so called profit, 2.5% stamp duty on the total sale
price, and the purchaser pays stamp duty on both the purchase and any
mortgage, plus 10% gst on any building.  Not a bad turnover of income for
our government.

Lynn Scott, Wollongong

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Re: [lace-chat] Flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread Margery Allcock
Tamara wrote:

> You kept a "packa" (mmm... the dictionary translation
> is wrong; but it's one of those flexible squares on a
> stick?) handy


A flyswat?  That's what we call ours.  But trying to swat a gnat (or maybe
it's a mozzie?) on the ceiling above our bed, while DH hides under the
bedclothes, is hardly ever successful except for the entertainment value.


BFN,
Margery.

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[lace-chat] Goldwork Spider

2004-06-04 Thread Margot Walker
The latest issue (June/July) of Workbox has a magnificent design by 
Shelley Cox, for a silk embroidery and goldwork spider and web.  It's so 
beautiful that it's definitely on my to-do list.  Try to get a copy.

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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[lace-chat] Re: Flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread Lynn Carpenter
"Tamara P. Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mosquitoes. In Poland, they were plentiful, but only outdoors; they 
>almost never came into the house. Here, it's the same; they happily 
>congregate over patches of standing water (lotsa happiness there, the 
>past few weeks ), especially in the shade.

Wa!  So are you telling me in the South, even the mosquitoes are
polite? !  I am so envious!  A vampire insect that waits on the threshold
-- it boggles the imagination (at least, to someone who grew up with the
impolite Michigan species).

I just did a Google search, and apparently one of our Michigan mosquito
species is even called the "northern house mosquito", Culex pipiens.  They
like shade:  houses count as "shady".  If we have even a small hole in a
window screen, say the size of a dime (about 1cm), they will funnel inside
like the pointy end of a tornado.

Not only are they whiny and annoying, now they also carry West Nile virus.
Historically mosquitoes were malaria carriers here.

Alexis de Tocqueville, who wrote "Democracy in America" in the 1830's, went
hunting up near Saginaw, and found the mosquitoes so fierce he couldn’t
even pause to write in his notebook.  Some summers when they are bad, I
can't even pick black raspberries with long sleeves, jeans, AND mosquito
repellant on -- they buzz all around you until they drive you flat NUTS.

This page
http://www.mackinac.org/article.asp?ID=25
describes Michigan in the early 1800's as "uninhabitable" due to the hordes
of mosquitoes.  The page has some other interesting quotes:  "In 1859, the
new Michigan Agricultural College in East Lansing came to a standstill
because all 100 students, and all but one of the faculty members,
contracted malaria."
and
"Tocqueville later wrote that he had "never experienced a torment" like
mosquitoes, which were "the scourge of the American solitudes." "

Wow, someone who has experienced a Michigan mosquito cloud, writing with
the grammar of the 1830's.  They are a scourge, all right.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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[lace-chat] Re:flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread janette humphrey
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 00:44:13 -0400
From: "Tamara P. Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Flies and mosquitos

On Jun 3, 2004, at 23:25, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

> Fly screens are a necessity here in Oz.  Flies are everywhere, all year
> round,

Also in Oz we have what is known as 'The Great Australian Wave'.  Often during the 
summer the news/tv reporters can be seen waving their arms around furiously whilst 
reporting the news! It is either that or we sit at home and watch the flies crawl all 
over their faces.  You really know it is summer here when you see everyone doing the 
same thing in the street.

Janette in downtown Wanniassa, Canberra waiting for the temperature to reach  -6 
tonight!

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Re: [lace-chat] Flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread annetoney
When we lived in New Orleans, the last thing we did before going to bed
was kill the mosquitoes.  We each took a fly swatter and went from room
to room killing them.  They sat on the ceilings and tops of the walls waiting
for us to go to bed so they could attack.

Anne

>-- Original Message --
>From: "Margery Allcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Flies and mosquitos
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:47:30 +0100
>Reply-To: "Margery Allcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>Tamara wrote:
>
>> You kept a "packa" (mmm... the dictionary translation
>> is wrong; but it's one of those flexible squares on a
>> stick?) handy
>
>
>A flyswat?  That's what we call ours.  But trying to swat a gnat (or maybe
>it's a mozzie?) on the ceiling above our bed, while DH hides under the
>bedclothes, is hardly ever successful except for the entertainment value.
>
>
>BFN,
>Margery.
>
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread Lorri Ferguson
How many have tried keeping basil plants around to keep out the flies?
It really does work, I noticed the effect when I had a pot of basil (the 
herb) in my kitchen window.  Then later read it in a gardening news column.
That reminds me I need to go to the garden store and get a pot for this 
year, well maybe several pots as we have a new covered patio to use this 
summer.
Are there any other plants that have this effect?

Lorri
Graham, WA USA
in the foothills of MT. Rainier 

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

2004-06-04 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends,
> Everybody gets confused over whether 12:00 is ante meridian or post
> meridian.
Not here - we were simply taught to write 12 Noon or 12 Midnight, as it is 
neither A.M. nor P.M.
David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] mosquitoes

2004-06-04 Thread
Ah, now if you want to see mosquitoes, you have to go to Northern Canada :)
There's many tales of how inattentive runway crews have attempted to refuel
a mosquito before they realise it's not an aircraft :)  DH and I once made a
three week canoe trip in DH's stomping grounds of northern Manitoba..it just
happened to be a time when they had the worst outbreak of mosquitoes in 17
yrs.   The first day we made 25 miles.  We just had to keep paddling to
avoid the mozzies.  We had three portages the first day that were  over a
mile long, they were pretty exciting, we couldn't move fast enough.  Then
there were the blackfly. Oh, and it was also a record year for leeches..I
thought they were eels until DH informed me otherwise :(  Sharon.. on sunny
Vancouver Island

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[lace-chat] windows

2004-06-04 Thread Janice Blair
Tamara wrote:
 > >Don't know what's wrong with *yours*, but... To me, windows ought to 
> >have two -- large and unbroken (to allow for maximum light and for a 
> >"dead air" cushion, both in summer and in winter) -- glass panes. 
And 
> >they should open *out*, on hinges, like doors (so-called "casement" 
> >windows). Or, if you go for a more modern version, on a swivel, 
which 
> >allows you to open the top in, and the bottom out, and vice-versa. 
 
We have just replaced our old sash windows that had storms in with new casement 
windows.  Large ones with no lites (wooden bars dividing them up).  They open outwards 
sideways and the screens can be put in during the summer on the inside.  What a 
pleasure after years of cleaning windows with two sets of 4 sides in each frame!  I 
always managed to break my nails and bash my knuckles taking the storm windows out and 
putting the screens in.  These new windows will never need painting, just a gentle 
wipe down, and they lock in 3 places instead of the old 1 place so I feel they are 
even more secure.  Problem was the new windows made the cedar siding look shabby so 
next Monday I have to be up before 7:00 am as the painters are finally coming.  
 
I was not familiar with storm windows until we bought this house 10 years ago.  I was 
busy painting before we moved in and opened the windows up, as I still couldn't feel a 
breeze I investigated further and found that there was another set of windows about 3" 
further out in the frame.  They were wonderful for insulation but such a pain to 
clean.  When we got a quote for replacing them the guy showed me how to pull out the 
sash windows to get at the storms easier.  Another problem of not having grown up in 
the country.  What a dope I felt, now no reason to get new ones but I failed to 
mention it to my hubby until the order for the new ones was placed. :-)
Janice

 



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Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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[lace-chat] Re: windows

2004-06-04 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 4, 2004, at 17:32, Janice Blair wrote:
We have just replaced our old sash windows that had storms in with new 
casement windows.  Large ones with no lites (wooden bars dividing them 
up).  They open outwards [...]
Yeah, and how are you gonna wash 'em? Do your Spiderwoman act? When we 
enclosed out side porch some 15 yrs ago (and turned it into a music 
room), Severn, wanting to please, OK-ed casement windows. American 
style. They're operated by a crank, and they open outwards. They're 
also single-pane (cold in winter, hot in summer) but, naturally, the 
only storm windows available were sash ones, so we don't have any, and 
the room is a freezer in winter and a frying pan in summer.

It's true that, with casement windows opening inwards, you either can't 
keep anything in front of them, or else have to move everything every 
time (which is where the idea of "lufcik" - a small part of the window 
opening, independently, at the top - comes in). But, for washing... You 
do both sides of the pane at once - Lazy Lizzie's paradise 

The older windows had two separate frames, each holding one pane; in 
effect, two separate windows. The newer ones hold two panes and come 
apart (so you can wash only the outsides, or both outsides and 
insides). In either case, you have, in addition to the two layers of 
glass, a layer of air in between.

 *Without* the hassle of the storm windows (which are twice the pain of 
the ordinary sash ones), as is the case in US. Which hassle is so great 
- glass up, screen down, screen up, glass down, aaargh - that I don't 
even bother to use them; wichever way they're set, thus they stay (in 
any case, you can only open half of the window at once)

And this is the country which has invented the "dumb Polack" term? 
Bt...

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[lace-chat] Re: Flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 4, 2004, at 9:41, Lynn Carpenter wrote:
Wa!  So are you telling me in the South, even the mosquitoes are
polite? !
 I don't think our mosquitoes read Miss Manners :) But they just 
don't seem to find as much "interesting stuff" inside as they do 
outside. Perhaps it's because I smoke? Or because - as my friends in 
Poland used to claim - I'm so bitchy, my blood's to bitter to suck? In 
any case, if we do get a mosquito inside, it's usually something we've 
transported in ourselves.

But there isn't a whole lot of stagnant (or even moving) water around 
here, which might also account for there being fewer mosquitos all 
around.

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[lace-chat] Re: Flies and mosquitos

2004-06-04 Thread Lynn Carpenter
"Lorri Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>How many have tried keeping basil plants around to keep out the flies?
>It really does work, I noticed the effect when I had a pot of basil (the 
>herb) in my kitchen window.  Then later read it in a gardening news column.

It must depend on the fly species.  Last year in my garden we had some kind
of fly that liked to rest, sit, perch, whatever you call it, on the plants.
 They came by the tens at a time, and I do remember them sitting on the
basil, as well the tomatoes, the four o'clocks, and whatever else was
growing out there.

>Are there any other plants that have this effect?

The old-fashioned scented-leaved geraniums are supposed to be insect
repellents.
But they are worth growing just for the leaf scent, if you can find them.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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[lace-chat] Re: Insects meet their fate

2004-06-04 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 4, 2004, at 8:47, Margery Allcock wrote:
Tamara wrote:
You kept a "packa" (mmm... the dictionary translation
is wrong; but it's one of those flexible squares on a
stick?) handy
A flyswat?  That's what we call ours.
They're called flyswatters here; thanks Pam!  And thanks Margery; if 
Pam hadn't written with the term I know, I'd have been able to 
reconstruct it from the "flyswat"...

Out of curiosity... When I see a fly or a bee/wasp/yellow jacket/hornet 
in the house, I reach for the fly swatter. When I see a mosquito, I 
wait for it to "come into my parlour" (ie alight somewhere on me) and 
then slap it flat. When I see a "flour moth", I chase all over the 
kitchen after it, trying to smash it between my clapping hands. Most 
unsatisfactory method, but one which seems instinctive... Do other 
people do it the same way?

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Insects meet their fate

2004-06-04 Thread A+Y Farrell
I heard that if you hold your breath when a mozzie lands on you it can't fly
away and then it is really easy to swat it. Apparently something to do with
your pores closing when you breathe in. I thought it was a myth but I tried
it and it works.

Cheers, Yvonne.

 Tamara wrote:
>
>>
Out of curiosity... When I see a fly or a bee/wasp/yellow jacket/hornet
in the house, I reach for the fly swatter. When I see a mosquito, I
wait for it to "come into my parlour" (ie alight somewhere on me) and
then slap it flat.

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[lace-chat] Re: Lives of the cat

2004-06-04 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 4, 2004, at 2:56, W & N Lafferty wrote:
All I can remember is that a cat "always falls on 4 legs", ie lands 
safely. In
extensio, that would mean that a cat never dies at all 
and a piece of buttered bread always lands butter side down.
So if you strap a piece of bread, buttered side up, on a cat's back,
and drop the cat from a height, then both the cat's feet and the
buttered side of the bread will want to land first and hey presto,
perpetual motion!
I think I'll spend the rest of the evening meditating... Are you a 
genius?  Am I a nut, because I find the idea most amusing? Flip, flop, 
flip, flop... How big would the bread piece need to be to balance the 
cat and keep the flip-flopping going?  Would it be a matter of weight, 
or of surface? And, how soon after being dropped (from what height?) 
would the flip-flop "click in"?

Weronika, perhaps some of your buddies at CalTech might want to do an 
in-depth study of the physics (and the metaphysics) of the problem. 
Especially those in search of a "meaty" subject for a thesis... I'm 
also forwarding this message to all the sci people I know; this is 
beyond *my* two brain cells, but...

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Lives of the cat

2004-06-04 Thread Ruth Budge
Tamara, Don't forget that Noelene is down here south of the Equator ... and we
know strange things happen here, like the bathwater going down the plug hole in
the opposite direction.So, whilst  you're meditating, consider whether the
same would apply to the flip, flop of the cat/buttered breadwould the
cat/bread sandwich in the northern hemisphere go flop, flip instead of the
other way round, and would it have any effect on perpetual motion or not!!?
(Extremely big grin!!)

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
"Tamara P. Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Jun 4, 2004, at 2:56, W & N
Lafferty wrote:
>
> So if you strap a piece of bread, buttered side up, on a cat's back,
> and drop the cat from a height, then both the cat's feet and the
> buttered side of the bread will want to land first and hey presto,
> perpetual motion!

I think I'll spend the rest of the evening meditating... Are you a 
genius? Am I a nut, because I find the idea most amusing? Flip, flop, 
flip, flop... How big would the bread piece need to be to balance the 
cat and keep the flip-flopping going? Would it be a matter of weight, 
or of surface? And, how soon after being dropped (from what height?) 
would the flip-flop "click in"?



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Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

2004-06-04 Thread Martha Krieg
 > Weronika, the problem of "getting lost" in conversation doesn't 
only occur when
 moving to a country with a different language!  
I'm sure it doesn't.  I'm fine with most of the language, it's just the
culture that confuses me.  Especially when people my age start talking
about music and movies and such...
Weronika
Weronika,
The culture confuses ME, and I was born and raised here by very 
non-international parents! Except for The Lord of the Rings and Harry 
Potter, "Master and Commander" (because we liked the books) and 
"Minority Report", I don't think we've seen any movies in the last 
five years. As for modern music well, I know more medieval pieces 
by heart than pop songs! The number of references in meetings at work 
that sail right over my head, to my all-too-obvious complete 
non-comprehension is probably legendary by now!
--
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[lace-chat] insects meet their fate

2004-06-04 Thread Dearl Kniskern
dear Tamara
 When I see a "flour moth", I chase all over the kitchen after it, trying 
to smash it between my clapping hands. Most unsatisfactory method, but one 
which seems instinctive... Do other people do it the same way?

no, with the flour moths I use a butterfly net or fishing net (they come in 
different sizes ) and they both work well
I used to do the other thing like you said but since then my granddaughter 
taught me how to catch them and then step on them in the net
works a charm
yours in lace

Dearl
Christiansburg, Virginia, USA
My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.
Do not meddle in the affairs of  dragons for you are crunchy, and taste 
good with ketchup.
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[lace-chat] Witches

2004-06-04 Thread Joan Whitfield
Malvary, I can also claim a weird family history - one of my ancestors was
reputedly a witch.  The UK arachnes may have heard about the Pendle witches
in Lancashire; my ancestor was Alice Nutter who met an untimely end.  I've
read various versions - hanged in Lancaster, burnt at the stake but Dad
insists that the true version is that she was about to be burned but had a
heart attack and died before the fire was lit, but they burnt the body
anyway.  Dad quelled my fear of the dark when I was little by telling me
that because we were decended from witches we were protected in the dark and
nothing could harm us, and this 'belief' has also been passed on to my
children and grandchildren.
Joan from Yorkshire (but born and still roots in Lancashire)

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[lace-chat] :-)) Interesting exercise

2004-06-04 Thread Jeanette Fischer
Take it slow,  and take it from the top. You will find this very funny as
well as interesting. Scroll down, real slow and give it your full attention,
otherwise it wil not work.

Think of a letter between
A and W.

.
.

.

Repeat it out loud as you scroll down.

.

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Keep going . .

Don't stop . .

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Think of an animal that begins with that letter.

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Repeat it out loud as you scroll down.

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Think of either a man's/woman's name that begins with the last letter in the
animals name

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Almost there

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Now count out the letters in that name on the fingers of the hand you are
not using to scroll down.

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Take the hand you counted with and hold it out in front of you at face level

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Look at your palm very closely and notice the lines in your hand

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Do the lines take the form of the first letter in the persons name? Take
your time. . .

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. Of course not...

Now smack yourself in the head, get a life, and quit playing stupid e-mail
games!

Jeanette  Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.

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