[lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups

2005-07-14 Thread Lynn Scott
I haven't found them in Australia either, apparently you can get them in a
store somewhere in Sydney, but it is a 2-3 hr drive from here for me with
the traffic, so I have learned to make my own, melt some chocolate into
one of those make at home chocolate trays, swirl it around, I do one cup
at a time, when cool add peanut butter (I have peanuts ground fresh at the
health food store so I don't get the sugar and salt - but for true
authentic taste get the cheap peanut butter as it has lots of both) then I
pour more melted chocolate on top. Pop the tray in the fridge then consume
at will - not quite the same, but a reasonable substitute.

Lynn Scott Wollongong Australia (formerly Canada), where I am neither rich
nor famous enough for any stalker to care

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[lace-chat] Bombings

2005-07-14 Thread Jean Nathan
Yes, please relax. The chances of being involved in a terrorist attack are 
very small. The chances of being murdered are very small. The chances of 
being in a car accident are quite high.


By their very nature, terrorists aren't recognisable - your next door 
neighbour could be a terrorist and you wouldn't know. Outwardly, they live 
perfectly normal lives, don't wear uniforms and don't have a sign round 
their neck saying "terrorist". If you worried about it, you'd be suspicious 
of absolutely everyone, and that would make for a very miserable life.


I laugh each time I hear George Bush talk abut the "war on terror" and 
"defeating terrorism" - can't be done. If it was that easy, we wouldn't have 
had so many years (nearly 200) of terrorism from the IRA, there'd have been 
no 9/11, Israel would be totally safe and so on.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace-chat] ANN DURANT

2005-07-14 Thread Pat Hallam
A lacemaker in Australia has asked me to try to locate her cousin, Ann
Durant, who is a lacemaker and believed to be in the Nottingham area.

If she is a member of this list or known to anyone, I would appreciate is
she would get in touch.

Thanks

Pat Hallam
Nottingham, UK

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[lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups

2005-07-14 Thread Helen
I know that Woolworths in the UK has sold these things at some point, 
certainly when I was younger.  At the time it was probably the only 
chocolate-y thing I didn't like :o)  In London there's also a couple of 
shops that import American and Canadian foods so if you find one of the 
shops you should be able to buy the peanut butter cups there.


Helen

At 06:04 14/07/2005, Avital wrote:


Reese's Peanut Butter Cups! Yes, we can get them here and they're kosher. DH
buys them quite often. They're the only sweet thing I will eat willingly,
probably because they also have so much salt in them. I don't have much of a
sweet tooth and chocolate goes moldy around me.  We also have the Reese's
Pieces and something else that came to Israel recently. A friend described 
it as

a chip version of the peanut butter cups. Carol, should I send you a care
package? ;-)

Avital,
amazed to find something in Israel that's not in the UK, but my English DH 
says

he's never seen Reese's there

> From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I am just drooling, thinking of those lovely American chocolate sweets -
> like a little cup of chocolate, and filled with peanut butter.   I could
> become addicted very easily - I just can't find them over here now ...
>
> Carol - in Suffolk UK




Helen, normally in Somerset, UK but back in Poole, Dorset for the summer

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Re: [lace-chat] stalkers

2005-07-14 Thread Jenny Brandis
At 01:20 AM 7/14/2005 -0400, Joy Beeson wrote:

  At 09:58 PM 7/13/05 +0800, Jenny Brandis wrote:

  > Has anyone else noticed that when we talk of stalkers we call them
  "he" ?

  Which is proper English grammar for a person of unknown sex.  

Ah but who says us Australians speak proper English?

Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia
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[lace-chat] fried food

2005-07-14 Thread Sylvie Nguyen
Hello Helene,

While there are some Americans who fry a great deal of
their food, others do not.  Having eaten among
friends, I have seen both.  American dinners are quite
often baked in ovens.

As for myself, I only fry eggrolls, which I make a few
times per year.  Because they are more work to make
than other foods and I know that all the oil is not
healthy, we just don't eat them more often.  

Having  been raised in a very health conscious manner,
I have continued to run my kitchen in the same way. 
In fact my sons say, "Mom is has her leaves again,"
when they notice all of the salad greens and large
variety of herbs. 

What are some of the most common ways that food is
prepared in Australia?

Sylvie
Cherry Valley, Illinois, USA






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RE: [lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups

2005-07-14 Thread Kim Czerwinski

>not quite the same, but a reasonable substitute.

The trick to make them taste more like a reeses is to add some peanut butter 
in with the melted chocolate.  This changes the consistency slightly and 
makes the chocolate a bit softer like a reeses.  There is a good recipe at   
http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/home.asp


Then add 1/5th of the peanut butter mixture to the chocolate to make them 
perfect. Yum!


Kim from  Delaware, US

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RE: [lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups

2005-07-14 Thread Lynn Scott
Yummy, thanks Kim.

Lynn in Wollongong Australia

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[lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups

2005-07-14 Thread Jane Partridge
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Helen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I know that Woolworths in the UK has sold these things at some point, 

>>Avital,
>>amazed to find something in Israel that's not in the UK, but my English DH 
>>says
>>he's never seen Reese's there

Apparently my daughter's American work colleague buys them in Asda - so
if we've got them here in Tamworth, the chances are most Asda stores
stock them. But then, Asda are now owned by Walmart.
-- 
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Re: [lace-chat] green tomatoes

2005-07-14 Thread susan
it's true! we fry everything.  we also boil, bake, microwave and
barbecue a lot.  frying and barbecuing tastes the best of all types of
cooking if it is done right.  nowadays after they fry something they
recommend you set it on a towel or papertowel to absorb grease.  you
can also put it in a strainer with a bowl or plate underneath it to
catch the grease.  america's most favorite foods are fried like fried
chicken, french fries, onion rings, potatoe chips, fried fish and hush
puppies, hamburgers, pork chops, etc. 

we do try to get rid of fatty ways to cook.  i put my meatloaf on a try
inside a large baking pan, put water in the bottom of the pan to keep
the grease from the hamberger catching on fire, and then put a lid on
top.  i also do this to my hamburgers sometimes.  i put a pan on the
stove top, put a spatter shield on top of the pan, put my hamburgers on
top of the spatter shield, and put a lid on top of the spatter shield
and it cooks a nice hamburger, but it takes forever to cook.

we do a lot of stove top cooking and the best way to do that is by
frying.  nothing tastes good unless you fry it for most foods.  we also
eat a lot of soups and stews, but the meat is floured and fried before
it is put in the stew. it costs too much to bake in the stove by
electricity or gas.  it is cheaper and quicker to cook on top of the
stove.  if you work a lot of odd hours with a lot of nights like most
jobs that i have had, then you don't have too much time to cook.  

i have heard that in england and europe they have to add fat to their
meat.  our animals are naturally fatter, so we don't have to do that. i
have also heard that they are much more thinner than most americans. 
the french are said to be very thin.  i am not sure why that is, but it
is true we are fried food finatics. 

--- Helene Gannac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Susan wrote:
> >just out of curiosity, has anyone in the uk or anyone overseas ever
> cooked or ate fried green tomatoes?  it seems to be more of an
> american
> southern type of food, so probably not even some of the northern
> americans have tried it. all you do is slice a green tomatoe, roll it
> in corn meal and then fry them until they are dark brown. salt them
> after you pull them out of the hot oil and they are really good
> 
> I've never tried fried green tomatoes, but I always remember my best
> friend's
> grandmother's green tomato jam. I used to absolutely adore it, and
> they gave it
> to me for afternoon tea every time I went there!!
> I've made some myself, and it was still pretty good, so I would
> recommend it!
> Just make it like any other jam, with 3/4 weight sugar, and a dash of
> lemon
> zest and juice in it as well.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, and because I've been reading a lot of
> American
> mysteries: Do American eat everything fried??? No wonder so many
> people have a
> weight problem! Fried food always seems to be what the characters in
> those
> books eat at the restaurant or at home, and the mysteries that give
> recipes in
> them have half fried recipes, even from places which you would think
> were too
> hot for that kind of food, like Florida or New Orleans!! The English
> have a lot
> to answer for!!! It was similar in Australia in 1969 when I arrived,
> although
> it was supposed to have the best fish and shellfish in the world, the
> only way
> you could get it at the restaurant was fried in thick batter with
> crumbs
> around. Yucks!!! Fortunately, we've come a long way since.
> 
> I hope lacemakers are a bit more health conscious!!! :-)
> 
> Helene, the froggy from Melbourne
> 
> 
> 
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[lace-chat] RE: green tomatoes

2005-07-14 Thread Helen Bell
No Helene, you can get BBQ, flame grilled, smoked, char broiled -
whatever your heart desires.  Just like in any other country.

It's not the fried food (although that doesn't help), it's the portion
sizes (like super sizing fast food meals).

Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver

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[lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-14 Thread susan
i'm not paranoid about it.  there are about 3000 or more people with my
exact name all over the united states.  i also did what another arachne
member did and put my last name in where it kept printing up in my
email.  i had no idea my last name came up everytime i sent an email. 
but it would not be very responsible to encourage someone to put their
first and last name in any email.  

in the u.s. we hear of children getting raped and people getting
murdered all the time from people they met on the internet.  i'm not
trying to be gory, but i'm originally from detroit, michigan, u.s.a.
which at one time was the murder capital of the u.s.a., so i think it
was correct to keep citizens there warned and cautious, but not
paranoid.  even the best police officers in detroit would tell you it
is not any better to hide in your house and be paranoid. 

unfortunately we had one incident when i was in 6th grade where our
paperboy came up missing.  i am not liing, and you could look this up
in the detroit news newspaper archives in either 1981 or 1982 about the
incident or the detroit news television news casts archives.  the paper
boy's name was Kurt Cizio, he was a student at saint cundagunda
catholic school that was about 6 to 7 blocks from where i lived.  his
body was found 2 houses down from my grandmother's house and one city
block and 2 houses down from where i lived inside one of the neighbor's
house.  the man had strangeled the kid, raped his body, bathed him,
wrapped his body in a sheet, and put his body in the wall of his attic.
 

the whole time the police were searching for this boy by those houses
they heard him hammering away upstairs in his attic trying to close the
wall in to hide the body.  the police brought dogs in and and they
smelled out the boys footprints leading right to the man's front door
where he dropped his newspaper off and into the man's house from the
backdoor where he dragged the strangled boy in.  this wasn't caused
from the internet, but things like this happended all the time. 
detroit city had about 1 million people in it at the time, and there
was always something terrible going on.

we lived 4 or 5 blocks from where the prostitutes used to sell
themselves at on michigan avenue.  our neighborhood was close to the
railroad tracks and darker lit with street lights than other streets,
so the hookers would park in the cars with their johns, do their job,
and get out of the car and walk back to michigan avenue for another
one.  one day my brother was standing in the front of my mother's house
and a cop walked up out of no where and asked to borrow his bicycle. 
my brother agreed, and watched him ride by a parked van where he peeked
into the window, then radioed his partner and made an arrest right
there.  apparently a hooker had brought her john there and was caught. 
both people were arrested.  

i think most of this list is from small towns because you wouldn't ask
for information like full names of names of cities in new york city, or
chicago and not get an argument about how unsafe it could be.  not that
anyone has asked for anyones last name because they haven't.  i'm not
trying to scare anyone, but why leave opportunity for anything when you
can be safe with knowing already what is already known and no more. 
the u.s.a. is not a safe place to live and even in small towns there
are horrible crimes.  england must be a very safe place to live because
everyone seems to sherk and overlook the possibilities for a horrible
crime to happen.  that says a lot of good things about it, but the
u.s.a is not a good place to live and if you looked closer at the crime
rate in each city, you would see it is not a good place to take any
chance with your safety.  

not trying to scare anyone, and i know this is going to tick a lot of
people off, but you should talk to your local police stations and then
type the reaction and comments the police had to the suggestion to give
any information to anyone on the internet.

--- Helene Gannac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Susan wrote:
> >i would especially be scared after the bombings both in the u.s.a.
> and
> london to put a name anywhere.  the way things are going we are going
> to all be walking around with gas masks in our pocket books next to
> pills that clean dirty water, foldable axes to cut out debree of
> fallen
> building matter, and a cyanide pill to kill ourselves with if we are
> taken captive .
> 
> Dear Susan,
> 
> please relax, I don't think anyone in the lacemaking world has got
> time to go
> and plant bombs around, we are too busy making lace :-). YOu don't
> have to give
> your full name on the net anyway. I often wonder why people put their
> full name
> as their email address, unless they are trading, and want people to
> know who
> they are. I don't think you've ever seen my full name, have you? I
> noticed your
> email address is not revealing everything about you either, so even
> if you live
> in a small town (and you can say i

Re: [lace-chat] Re: fried green tomatoes/ peanut butter

2005-07-14 Thread Steph Peters
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:45:53 -0400, Joy wrote:

>At 12:09 AM 7/13/05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> There was much more sugar in it, . . . 
>
>*More* sugar than American peanut butter?  GAAAH

The amount of sugar in peanut butter must vary by brand.  The ones I buy in
UK contain no sugar or sweetener at all.  I nearly choked the first time I
had American sweetened peanut butter, I don't like it at all.
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Re: [lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups

2005-07-14 Thread Steph Peters
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:49:20 +0100, Jane wrote:

>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Helen
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>I know that Woolworths in the UK has sold these things at some point, 
>
>>>Avital,
>>>amazed to find something in Israel that's not in the UK, but my English DH 
>>>says
>>>he's never seen Reese's there
>
>Apparently my daughter's American work colleague buys them in Asda - so
>if we've got them here in Tamworth, the chances are most Asda stores
>stock them. But then, Asda are now owned by Walmart.

I've seen Reese's peanut butter cups around, not in Asda.  But only in about
the last 5 years or so.  Tried one once, and have now had my lifetime's
ration.
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Re: [lace-chat] watermelon/p.b. sandwiches

2005-07-14 Thread susan
forgot not to hit reply, so ignore the personal email.

that must be quick jelly!lol.  i'll have to try it. 



--- Bev Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi everyone, and susan, who wrote about fried green tomatoes -
> these arent' in abundance where I am (I'm lucky if I get a single
> uncooked
> green tomato *at all* but I try to grow them every year anyway )
> however a friend served this at a lunch - I ate one, out of
> politeness.
> She said that watermelons have more licopene than tomatoes, and it
> tastes
> better with p.b. than do tomatoes (again, no opinion from this
> quarter).
> Toast a thick slice of bread. With a good bread knife, slice the
> bread
> through itself so you have two skinny slices of bread, one with a
> toasty
> side, one with the soft side (alternatively, I suppose you could
> broil two
> pieces of bread - broiling toasts one side only).
> On the toasted part spread peanut butter, the unadulterated 'peanuts
> only'
> - optional, a dash of salt, and one slice of dry-ish watermelon.
> Assemble
> with untoasted sides outward. Enjoy?
> I must say the texture of the sandwich unit was v. interesting.
> -- 
> bye for now
> Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
> Cdn. floral bobbins
> www.woodhavenbobbins.com
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[lace-chat] 3 Cs to think about

2005-07-14 Thread Tamara P Duvall

From: J.O.


THREE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT IN 2005: COWS, CONSTITUTION, AND THE
TEN COMMANDMENTS.

COWS
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government 
can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the 
stall where she sleeps in the state
of Washington. And they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they 
are unable to

locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around our country.
Maybe we should give them all a cow.

CONSTITUTION
They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we 
just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's 
worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.


TEN COMMANDMENTS
The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse:
You cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit 
Adultery," and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, 
judges and politicians! It creates a hostile

work environment!

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Jewish Mother

2005-07-14 Thread Tamara P Duvall
I can - almost - hear my own mother; could never win an argument with 
her, either... :)



From: C.B.2


Daughter: Hi Mom. Can I leave the kids with you tonight?
Jewish Mother: You're going out?
D: Yes.
J M: With whom?
D: With a friend.
J M: I don't know why you left your husband. He is such a good man.
D: I didn't leave him. He left me!
J M: You let him leave you, and now you go out with anybodies and 
nobodies.

D: I do not go out with anybody. Can I bring over the kids?
J M: I never left you to go out with anybody except your father.
D: There are lots of things that you did and I don't.
J M: What are you hinting at?
D: Nothing. I just want to know if I can bring the kids over tonight.
J M: You're going to stay the night with him? What will your husband 
say if he finds out?
D: My EX husband. I don't think he would be bothered. From the day he 
left me, he probably never slept alone!

J M: So you're going to sleep over at this loser's place?
D: He's not a loser.
J M: A man who goes out with a divorced woman with children is a loser 
and a parasite.

D: I don't want to argue. Should I bring over the kids or not?
J M: Poor children with such a mother.
D: What do you mean?
J M: With no stability. No wonder your husband left you.
D: ENOUGH !!!
J M: Don't scream at me. You probably scream at this loser too!
D: Now you're worried about the loser?
J M: Ah, so you see he's a loser. I spotted him immediately.
D: Goodbye, mother.
J M: Wait! Don't hang up! When are you bringing them over?
D: I'm not bringing them over! I'm not going out!
J M: If you never go out, how do you expect to meet anyone?
 
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[lace-chat] SP Thanks

2005-07-14 Thread Win Lambert
Thank you to my American secret pal for the parcel arrived yesterday - two 
books; tea/coffee; beads; bobbins - too much!!  Thank you.


Win
in sunny but cold Tasmania

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[lace-chat] Re: fried green tomatoes/ peanut butter

2005-07-14 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Jul 13, 2005, at 16:45, Joy Beeson wrote:


*More* sugar than American peanut butter?  GAAAH!

Yesterday I went up and down the bread aisle muttering
"If I wanted to to eat cake, I'd buy cake!"
*Everything* in America has sugar in it.


Including *pickles* :) I buy pickled herring (can't find any fresh, 
from a barrel), ditch its brine, make new brine, then let the herring 
sit in it for a few days before I eat it... You also use *salt* in 
everything, including cakes - that's why you need so much sugar :)


As to who doesn't have what...

Poland doesn't have peanut butter (though you may now be able to buy 
it, imported). It's an acquired taste, and since I never acquired it, I 
don't care what the stores here carry.


Poland doesn't have salted butter. Since I'm able to find unsalted 
here, I'm happy. Salted butter is another taste I never acquired :)


Unseasoned (hamburger) or over-seasoned (hot-dogs) meat is another 
thing I never miss. We have our own versions of both, and I pig out on 
them whenever I visit (just as I do on all other things I can't get in 
US).


DH loves green tomatoes, but he bakes, not fries, them. He indulges in 
them when the season is almpost over, and frost threatens to kill hte 
plants. I love the red ones from the garden (he just brought in the 
first two, today. One for each of us. Yum )


Poland doesn't have sour-mash bourbon - a  taste I acquired very fast, 
so I take a half-gallon with me every time I go :)


Poland doesn't *grow* a lot of fruits that are available here - we 
don't have enough sun - but we have them all; imported. So I knew 
watermelon from childhood.


The list of "t'other way 'round"  is mammoth - very few comfort foods 
from my childhood are available here (esp in a small town like mine). 
So I either make them myself, or pig-out while in Poland, or settle on 
half measures while visiting DS in Northern CA (San Francisco has a 
very good Polish deli)


Martha Krieg wrote:

I grew up having bread with supper every night, and potatoes every 
night we didn't have something like chop suey that takes rice - but I 
don't put bread on the table for dinner, and we often don't have a 
starchy food with it, either.


 My mother's mantra had always been: "we are not as poor as the 
Russians, so we do not have to have bread *and* potatoes (or rice, or 
pasta) together". The aim was to have a piece of meat (or fish), a 
starch (potato, rice, pasta, *or* bread, if she didn't feel much like 
cooking), a raw veg and a cooked veg (the cooked being a soup, as often 
as not. Otherwise, the raw veg became a piece of fruit).


Imagine my surprise, when I came here - to *rich* America - and was 
offered bread with my dinner, which had a starch on the plate already! 
I never told my mother about it, because I could hardly wait till she 
came to visit and was offered same :)


Also from Martha:

More of a problem even than eating fried food is the non-walkability 
of American suburbs.


And I think that's really the crux of the matter - the lack of 
exercise. A lot of Polish food *is* fried and, while I no longer cook 
that way for DH, I still indulge myself once in a while. Not *deep 
fried* - nobody but a commercial establishment can afford it, and not 
many Polish foods call for such cooking - but fat does improve the 
taste (if you eat it right away; let it cool off and its hateful ) 
to an extent. And, while the restaurant portions here are about twice 
the size of those I remember from Poland (we didn't have "doggie bags"; 
you were still hungry, you ordered another dish), at home, they weren't 
all that small, either - they were sized to suit. My father "ate enough 
for a legion" and I not much less (once I started eating normally, at 
about 12), while my mother "pecked around the edges".


But. She hardly moved, once she retired and didn't have her daily dose 
of the walk to and from the tram-stop (ca 3/4 of a mile), while I still 
had to (and, half of the time, it was simpler to just walk to school or 
U, than wait for the - crowded - bus to take me the measly 3 stops), 
and my father had made a fetish of exercising. So, she looked, *almost* 
like what's now known as "an American whale" in Poland.


Though Poland is now getting more and more whales of its own. The food 
habits are changing, but not much. OTOH, more and more people - of all 
ages - are spending more and more time sittting (many, many, 
reasons)...


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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