Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-08 Thread Jaime Nebrera Herrera

  Hi Jaques:

> We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.
>
> 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html
>
> 2 chapters in the Bering user's guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime.html
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bumail.html

  I'll give them a look, but remember I'm not english native.

  Regards.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread Jon Clausen

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:59:07AM +0200, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> We have three new pieces for the Bering documentation that will be released 
> with rc4 coming out shortly.
> 
> We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.

Great stuff! I like the page about time in particular. That's something
I always wanted... ;)

I'll try to stay out of the content, more or less... So this is mostly
just proofreading. Comments inline:
 
> 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html

Proofreading:
10.3: "If you want to add an hard-disk..." 
-> "If you want to add a hard-disk..."

10.9: "PLease refer to..."
-> "Please refer..."

Suggestion:
10.8: Maybe mention ssh along with smtp/nntp towards the end?

> 2 chapters in the Bering user's guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime.html

13.1: "...Jeff Newmiller from which..."
-> "...from whom..."

13.9: "Miscellaneous"

g) maybe add some reason? Or just elaborate slightly more...?

h) Does backing up etc.lrp save stuff if one chooses to go with
ntpdate.lrp? (I guess not, but it ought to be a little clearer imho)

i) great ;)

> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bumail.html

14.1: "... a help..."

14.2:
 "If you want to send mail...:
ACCEPT  fw  net 25  tcp

...well, I might want to send it to an *internal* host ...(?)

14.3:
"After changing the cronjob is updated automatically."

Maybe it's just me, but some punctuation might be good:

"After changing, the cronjob is updated automatically."

-or even a small mention of *how* cron sees that something's changed
(that the timestamp on the directory is updated)

"You can edit the multicron file as above or (probably a better idea)
insert a new file with the syntax as before for each additional
purpose."

Might be better phrased as something like:

"To add jobs to be run, you can edit the multicron file. A better idea
might be to put them in (a) separate file(s) in /etc/cron.d/ (keeping
the syntax)"

...or something

Also this might be a good place to mention /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ -in
case somebody would like to run a userland cronjob. And if that gets
added, then a note on the fact that userland crontabs don't have the
"user" -field.

I know this is not supposed to be a new manpage, but having been through
a bunch of cron-related stuff recently, I think it would be great to
'spell it out' just a *little* more.

MHO, HTH, TIA a.s.o. ;)

Jon Clausen


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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread Larry Platzek

Have you checked that ntpdate will run after serial modem is working,
I have seen ntpclnt try to run before it can reach the internet!
It might work fine for other connections but not a pppd demand dialing.


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On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jacques Nilo wrote:

> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 07:59:07 +0200
> From: Jacques Nilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc
>
> We have three new pieces for the Bering documentation that will be released
> with rc4 coming out shortly.
>
> We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.
>
> 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html
>
> 2 chapters in the Bering user's guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime.html
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bumail.html
>
> There are still some unresolved hyperlinks.
>
> Jacques & Eric
>
>
>
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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread Jeff Newmiller

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jacques Nilo wrote:

> We have three new pieces for the Bering documentation that will be released 
> with rc4 coming out shortly.
> 
> We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.
> 
> 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html
> 
> 2 chapters in the Bering user's guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime.html

13.3.2 :  preformat example commands
13.3.3 :  preformat example commands
13.3.3 :  activate link to arachnoid
13.3.3 :  I am pretty sure the second Shorewall rule should be
  ACCEPT  fw loc udp 37

13.5 : "See Bering Installation Guide" ... perhaps should be a link to
___, except that I don't see a section on /etc/lrp.conf to link to. Omit?

Note: 13.5, 13.6, and 13.7 and 13.8 are all (effectively) mutually
exclusive approaches to the optional setup of automatic time maintenance,
and should be presented as part of the same section 13.5... perhaps
13.5.1, 13.5.2, 13.5.3, and 13.5.4.

13.6 :  b/ ... "timsersever" should be "timeserver"

13.7 : not having done this, I wonder whether "svi ntpsimpl restart" is
needed.

13.9 : Spelling: "Miscellaneous"

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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread K.-P. Kirchdörfer

Am Mittwoch, 9. Oktober 2002 07:59 schrieb Jacques Nilo:
> We have three new pieces for the Bering documentation that will be released
> with rc4 coming out shortly.
>
> We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.
>
> 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html

-- snip ---
# SPACECHECK, will check the space available on the root device.
# If the remaining free space is <= MINKB or <= MINPER, each level
# of file mask(s) will be wiped, until the minimum available space
# is met or level 5 is reached. Files are individually null'ed
# to 0 size. They are not rm'ed. (syslogd will not be interrupted)
# When the level set in MAIL_LEVEL, is reached or exceeded, an
# alert will be sent to ADMIN. (If set)

lrp_SPACECHECK=NO   # YES or NO
lrp_SC_MINKB=-1 # <= -1 to disable.
lrp_SC_MINPER=2 # >= 101 to disable. Default 2%.
lrp_SC_MAIL_LEVEL=2 # >= 6 to disable.
lrp_SC_MNT="L"
lrp_SC_MOUNT="/var/log"

I guess the above comments are self explanatory :-)

 snip 

This isn't self explanatory.
What are 
lrp_SC_MNT="L"
lrp_SC_MOUNT="/var/log"
?
I guess the spacecheck will happen on lrp_SC_MOUNT and not on the root device.
No idea what lrp_SC_MNT stands for...

kp



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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread Eric Wolzak

Hello K-P
you are right, there is even a small error in the abbreviated version, 
At the bottom I included a part of the original xml documentation. 
hope this makes it more clear.


> Am Mittwoch, 9. Oktober 2002 07:59 schrieb Jacques Nilo:
> > We have three new pieces for the Bering documentation that will be released
> > with rc4 coming out shortly.
> >
> > We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.
> >
> > 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> > http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html
> 
> -- snip ---
> # SPACECHECK, will check the space available on the root device.
> # If the remaining free space is <= MINKB or <= MINPER, each level
> # of file mask(s) will be wiped, until the minimum available space
> # is met or level 5 is reached. Files are individually null'ed
> # to 0 size. They are not rm'ed. (syslogd will not be interrupted)
> # When the level set in MAIL_LEVEL, is reached or exceeded, an
> # alert will be sent to ADMIN. (If set)
> 
> lrp_SPACECHECK=NO   # YES or NO
> lrp_SC_MINKB=-1 # <= -1 to disable.
> lrp_SC_MINPER=2 # >= 101 to disable. Default 2%.
> lrp_SC_MAIL_LEVEL=2 # >= 6 to disable.
> lrp_SC_MNT="L"
> lrp_SC_MOUNT="/var/log"
> 
> I guess the above comments are self explanatory :-)
> 
>  snip 
> 
> This isn't self explanatory.
> What are 
> lrp_SC_MNT="L"
> lrp_SC_MOUNT="/var/log"
> ?
> I guess the spacecheck will happen on lrp_SC_MOUNT and not on the root device.
> No idea what lrp_SC_MNT stands for...
> 

I hope this part of the original documentation will makes things more 
clear.
  lrp_SPACECHECK=YES# YES or NO 
You can find this variable in the systemconfiguration. The 
default is NO.


This will check how much space there is left on a device you specify. 
If the space is less than the limit you set 
than a choosen action will be performed. For example delete files 
and mail an alert

In contrast to the original Dachstein and LRP version which 
tested the root device the Bering image tests the /var/log device
as this is on a separate partition. 


The configuration may seem a little complicated at first.
The lrp_SC_MNT= sets the abbreviation for the different 
partitions/directory that should be tested 

lrp_SC_MNT="L T"

Corresponding there should be a variable set with the name of the 
partition / directory

lrp_SC_MOUNT_L="/var/log"
lrp_SC_MOUNT_T="/tmp"

Now you can specify a treshold for the memory to take an action. 
You can specify this as KB (lrp_SC_MINKB) or percent of the 
partition.(lrp_SC_MINPER)

lrp_SC_MINKB_L="200"
lrp_SC_MINPER_T="30"

in this case there will be an action as soon as the free memory on 
/var/log is less than 200 KB
on the /tmp partition there will be an action as soon as the amount of 
free space is less than 30%

As soon as one of the treshold for a certain partition is 
reached the following action is taken.
look if there is a variable specifying the level and nullify the files in 
this variable. Now the space is checked
again to see if the space is still under the treshold level if yes then 
the next level files is nullified.
This continues untill level 5 is reached.

lrp_SC_L1="/var/log/*.4.gz" 
lrp_SC_L2="/var/log/daemon.log"

in level 2 /var/log/daemon.log will be set to 0.


Regards Eric Wolzak
member of the Bering Crew


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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread Jacques Nilo

Jon, Jeff, KPK and Larry:
Thanks everyone for the useful feedback.
I'll include most of your comments/remarks.
Here is the updated version of butime.html:
http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime1.html

I still have to fix the rest:
Jacques


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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-09 Thread Jeff Newmiller

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jacques Nilo wrote:

> Jon, Jeff, KPK and Larry:
> Thanks everyone for the useful feedback.
> I'll include most of your comments/remarks.
> Here is the updated version of butime.html:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime1.html

You seem to have altered my suggested fix for shorewall to allow
connection to an internal timeserver.

If the rdate server is in your protected network, and the rdate command is
to be executed on the firewall to set the time, then the connection has to
go FROM "fw" TO "loc".

Also, you added in some lines under 13.5 to allow ntp protocol
through... but ntp is to port 123, not port 37 like for the rdate command.

"The main inconvenients..." should probably be "The main drawbacks..."

"A list of available timeservers... from ntpd OR ntpdate."

13.6 : "For YOUR internal network..."

This is looking very nice, Jacques.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-10 Thread Mike Noyes

On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 22:59, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> We have three new pieces for the Bering documentation that will be released 
> with rc4 coming out shortly.

Jacques,
Please update your Bering User's/Installation guide XML files in our CVS
repository. Thanks.

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/doc/guide/

Note: our doc tree in cvs exports nightly to our /pub/doc directory on
the shell server. If you place the html files in cvs they will be
available from:

http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc
http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/guide/install-bering/
http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/guide/user-bering/

> We would welcome proofreading, comments and suggestions before release.
> 
> 1 chapter in the Bering installation guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bisystem.html
> 
> 2 chapters in the Bering user's guide:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime.html
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/bumail.html
> 
> There are still some unresolved hyperlinks.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc

2002-10-11 Thread Larry Platzek

Jacques, Eric:
May suggest in butim1.html 13.5 "here you have ..." remove and handle like
in 13.3 "there are three common ..." then "Method 1:" "method2"
I think it would look better to be consistent.


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On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jacques Nilo wrote:

> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:48:49 +0200
> From: Jacques Nilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Help needed: new chapters in Bering doc
>
> Jon, Jeff, KPK and Larry:
> Thanks everyone for the useful feedback.
> I'll include most of your comments/remarks.
> Here is the updated version of butime.html:
> http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/butime1.html
>
> I still have to fix the rest:
> Jacques
>
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