Re: [leaf-user] Bering RC-4 unexplainable holes in shorewall - long

2002-11-02 Thread Ray Olszewski
Not being a Shorewall expert, I waited a while to see if someone who knows 
Shorewall would spot the problem just from the config files you posted. Not 
seeing any replies of that sort, let me suggest you post a more complete 
report, following the advice in the SR FAQ. Then people (like me) who do 
not know Shorewall can see the underlying iptables rulesets and, perhaps, 
identfy the source of some of your problems.

One piece of what you wrote is especially perplexing, though, namely --

most disturbing is my
ability to ping internal clients on both internal networks from the EXTERNAL
network - even masq'd clients.  I know the norfc1918 option on zone net will
stop this but shouldn't the overall policy of net2all prevent this?


This one needs a bit more explanation. Since the external connection is a 
PPPoE connection, just where are you doing this ping'ing *from*? From out 
on the Internet, pings to your private addresses should not get even close 
to your LANs; the ISP's routers should stop them before they ever encounter 
your rulesets. If you traceroute to these addresses, do they really prove 
to be on your LANs (or are you just able to ping *some* hosts with 
192.168.17.d addresses)?

In any case, a look at the underlying iptables rulesets will probably let 
us see where any problem is.

At 10:27 PM 11/1/02 -0400, Jeff Clark wrote:
I'm setting up a Bering rc-4 box with pppoe net access and two internal
networks - not a DMZ just 2 seperate internal networks.  I want traffic
blocked between the internal networks and from the 2nd network to the net.

I've set up 3 zones:

net is pppoe through eth0
ofl is 192.168.17.0/24 on 192.168.17.254 thorugh eth1
onl is 192.168.170.0/24 on 192.168.170.253 through eth2

Offline and Online are arbitrary names only, referring only to what we call
each network in the office...think of them as A and B.

Offline is to be masq'd and Online is not - Online is actually to be
completely isolated from the internet and Offline.  Think of Online as Area
51 - it simply doesn't exist to anyone outside of the office - it will be
connected to an ipsec tunnel after I get the rest of this setup working to
connect to a remote facility.

Here are my zone, ifaces, policy and rules:

# cat /etc/shorewall/zones | grep -v #
net Net Internet
ofl Offline Offline network
onl Online  Online network

TOH-FW-1: -root-
# cat /etc/shorewall/interfaces | grep -v #
net ppp0-   routefilter
ofl eth1-   routestopped
onl eth2-

TOH-FW-1: -root-
# cat /etc/shorewall/policy | grep -v '#'
ofl net ACCEPT
fw  net ACCEPT
net all DROPinfo
all all REJECT  info

TOH-FW-1: -root-
# cat /etc/shorewall/rules | grep -v '#'
ACCEPT  fwnet   tcp 53
ACCEPT  fwnet   udp 53
ACCEPT  net   fwtcp 22
ACCEPT  ofl   fwtcp 22
ACCEPT  ofl   fwudp 53
ACCEPT  ofl   fwtcp 80
ACCEPT  net   fwtcp 37



# shorewall stop;shorewall start
Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf ...
Processing /etc/shorewall/params ...
Stopping Shorewall...Processing /etc/shorewall/stop ...
done.
Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf ...
Processing /etc/shorewall/params ...
Starting Shorewall...
Initializing...
Determining Zones...
   Zones: net ofl onl
Validating interfaces file...
Validating hosts file...
Validating Policy file...
Determining Hosts in Zones...
   Net Zone: ppp0:0.0.0.0/0
   Offline Zone: eth1:0.0.0.0/0
   Online Zone: eth2:0.0.0.0/0
Deleting user chains...
Creating input Chains...
Configuring Proxy ARP
Setting up NAT...
Adding Common Rules
Adding rules for DHCP
Setting up Kernel Route Filtering...
IP Forwarding Enabled
Processing /etc/shorewall/tunnels...
Processing /etc/shorewall/rules...
   Rule ACCEPT fw net tcp 53 added.
   Rule ACCEPT fw net udp 53 added.
   Rule ACCEPT net fw tcp 22 added.
   Rule ACCEPT ofl fw tcp 22 added.
   Rule ACCEPT ofl fw udp 53 added.
   Rule ACCEPT ofl fw tcp 80 added.
   Rule ACCEPT net fw tcp 37 added.
Setting up ICMP Echo handling...
Processing /etc/shorewall/policy...
   Policy ACCEPT for fw to net using chain fw2net
   Policy DROP for net to fw using chain net2all
   Policy REJECT for ofl to fw using chain all2all
   Policy ACCEPT for ofl to net using chain ofl2net
Masqueraded Subnets and Hosts:
   To 0.0.0.0/0 from eth1 through ppp0
Processing /etc/shorewall/tos...
   Rule all all tcp - ssh 16 added.
   Rule all all tcp ssh - 16 added.
   Rule all all tcp - ftp 16 added.
   Rule all all tcp ftp - 16 added.
   Rule all all tcp ftp-data - 8 added.
   Rule all all tcp - ftp-data 8 added.
Activating Rules...
Processing /etc/shorewall/OUTPUT ...
Processing /etc/shorewall/start ...

[leaf-user] D-LINK DFE-690TXD

2002-11-02 Thread Erich Titl
Hi folks

does anyone know what pcmcia configuration is required for D-LINK 
DFE-690TXD, I found the the network driver is a 8139too. I could not find 
the necessary cs module to bind to.

Thanks

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Re: [leaf-user] D-LINK DFE-690TXD

2002-11-02 Thread JeeBak Kim
Hi Erich,

* Erich Titl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021102 09:00]:
 Hi folks
 
 does anyone know what pcmcia configuration is required for D-LINK 
 DFE-690TXD, I found the the network driver is a 8139too. I could not find 
 the necessary cs module to bind to.

This is what I used as a reference:

  http://newton.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre/cardbus_DFE-690TXD/README



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[leaf-user] WISP partition questions

2002-11-02 Thread Lee Kimber
I've just started to play with WISP on a compact flash card. I've created a 
bootable WISP CF card but the process brought unexpected torment. It has 
left me with a few questions. ;-)

Environment:
32Mb CF card in Silicon Kit IDE to CF adapter
BIOS using CHS to see the CF card

Torment:
The CF card came out of a PocketPC and had files on it that I could see if 
I booted the WSIP hardware using a DOS floppy. In other words, it had a 
working partition on it.

I found it impossible to create two partitions on this card using fdisk on 
a Win98 disk or using Partition Magic 6.0 or 7.0.

After I'd fdised, all three tools misreported the the CF as having about 
15Mb of free space after the first partition - even if the partition was 
27Mb! When I ran syslinux.com -s c: against this card, I got no error but 
the system would hang on boot.

In the end I formatted the card in a friend's PocketPC and then found it 
possible to copy the WISP files to it from the .zip file on the WISP 
downloads page at:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751

I then made the CF bootable by booting a floppy and running syslinux -s c: 
against the CF card. Great! WISP now boots.

But I'd like to create a second partition for WISP's read/write files...

Now I looking at shoving an ancient Antec Descartes CF card reader/writer 
in a separate Linux box so I'm wondering if people have successfully 
partitioned and formatted the CF card for WISP using straightforward Linux 
fdisk and fdformat?

Also, is the second partition to be DOS or minix or does it not matter?

I've got an 8MB CF card so in theory I can dd the 
wisp-dist_2348_img_wdist.bin file on the LEAF downloads page. But... I can 
get this binary to yield its .img content. I've made it executable but 
executing it doesn't do anything. Is this a MacBinary? I'll bet I'm missing 
something else so I'm looking for a clue!

I'll also be trying to work out how to get a RTL8019AS driver on to the CF 
but I reckon I'll be able to work that out on my own.

I'm willing to contribute back to the WISP documentation of course.

Thanks...

Lee





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Re: [leaf-user] D-LINK DFE-690TXD

2002-11-02 Thread Erich Titl
Hi

At 18:31 02.11.2002, JeeBak Kim wrote:

Hi Erich,

* Erich Titl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021102 09:00]:
 Hi folks

 does anyone know what pcmcia configuration is required for D-LINK
 DFE-690TXD, I found the the network driver is a 8139too. I could not find
 the necessary cs module to bind to.

This is what I used as a reference:

  http://newton.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre/cardbus_DFE-690TXD/README


You are right, I need glasses

Thanks

Erich


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[leaf-user] OT: Cisco IGS Multiprotocol Router Bridge

2002-11-02 Thread Tony
Hi Gang,

Does anyone have any interest in this piece of hardware?  If so, it's yours
for the cost of shipping.  It has the serial and token ring connectors on
the back, along with an aux and console port.  I have no documentation and
can not help you set it up.  I don't have token ring at the house, and doubt
I will be installing it anytime soon.

If you know how to use it, and _can_ use it, drop me a private e-mail and we
can go from there.

Now back you your regularly scheduled program already in progress


Thanks,

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Re: [leaf-user] D-LINK DFE-690TXD

2002-11-02 Thread Erich Titl
Hi

thanks for the info

At 18:31 02.11.2002, JeeBak Kim wrote:

Hi Erich,

* Erich Titl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021102 09:00]:
 Hi folks

 does anyone know what pcmcia configuration is required for D-LINK
 DFE-690TXD, I found the the network driver is a 8139too. I could not find
 the necessary cs module to bind to.

This is what I used as a reference:

  http://newton.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre/cardbus_DFE-690TXD/README


I believe all the necessary modules are available for bering. Could you 
please tell me what you used in the /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. I am probably 
binding to the wrong module (pcnet_cs)

Thanks

Erich

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[leaf-user] superformat followup..

2002-11-02 Thread Jeff
I finally got one floppy to format from

superformat /dev/fd0u1680

Felt a great accomplishment. But, try do it again on several different 
floppies and I get problems from the very start

Stops almost immeadiatly with lseek invalid argument, huh?

just re-enter the command and it doesn't do that again.

It trys and gives  continuous
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector number upto and 
past as I type this sector 1383 and keeps going forever.

Why does everthing with Linux have to be so damn complicated, 
infuriating and cryptic?

Hell, I even try superformat /dev/fd0h1440, a normal floppy right, 
immeadiatly fails with:

Verifying cylinder 0, head 0 Error, 5120 bytes remaining
Verifying cylinder 0, head 1 lseek: Invalid argument

Then immeaditly re-run the same command AND IT WORKS!
Running thru to the end and printing:
mformat -s18 -t80 -h2 -S2 -M512 a:

Just love apps that fail and then run normally.

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[leaf-user] superformat question

2002-11-02 Thread Jeff
I am at wits end. I am trying to create a 1680 floppy for using Bering. 
I've done this before. I created several for eigerstien.

I cann't get a floppy to format 1680!
I've tried three different Linux systems. I even tried a 650Mhz 
Thunderbird with via chipset USING the floppy drive off of the leaf box.

First all do numnerous reseeks while formatting and after going through 
all of that they all fail at track 68 with:

Verifying cylinder 68, head 1 Error, 9216 bytes remaining.

Command is

superformat /dev/fd0u1680

Which goes through it's raw data check, etc.

What am I doing wrong?
Is there a Windows program that formats 1680?
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Re: [leaf-user] superformat question

2002-11-02 Thread Etienne Charlier
www.winimage.com , or just download the bering self extracting executable,
create a floppy then delete the files and copy yours on the floppy


Regards,
Etienne Charlier
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- Original Message -
From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:34 PM
Subject: [leaf-user] superformat question


 I am at wits end. I am trying to create a 1680 floppy for using Bering.
 I've done this before. I created several for eigerstien.

 I cann't get a floppy to format 1680!
 I've tried three different Linux systems. I even tried a 650Mhz
 Thunderbird with via chipset USING the floppy drive off of the leaf box.

 First all do numnerous reseeks while formatting and after going through
 all of that they all fail at track 68 with:

 Verifying cylinder 68, head 1 Error, 9216 bytes remaining.

 Command is

 superformat /dev/fd0u1680

 Which goes through it's raw data check, etc.

 What am I doing wrong?
 Is there a Windows program that formats 1680?
 --
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Re: [leaf-user] superformat followup..

2002-11-02 Thread Erich Titl
Jeff

Jeff wrote the following at 21:12 02.11.2002:

I finally got one floppy to format from

superformat /dev/fd0u1680

Felt a great accomplishment. But, try do it again on several different 
floppies and I get problems from the very start

Stops almost immeadiatly with lseek invalid argument, huh?

just re-enter the command and it doesn't do that again.

sounds like either floppy quality or hardware

HTH

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Re: [leaf-user] superformat question

2002-11-02 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
 I cann't get a floppy to format 1680!
 I've tried three different Linux systems. I even tried a 650Mhz
 Thunderbird with via chipset USING the floppy drive off of the leaf
box.

snip

 What am I doing wrong?

I'm not sure...I don't use superformat.

 Is there a Windows program that formats 1680?

Yes, winimage will do it, and I think there may be a few other
utilities.  You could also just cheat and just run one of the
self-extracting 1680K disk images, then delete all the files :-)

Also, since you're using bering (which is based on Dachstein), you might
check and see if you have the backupdisk command available.  I wrote
this script to allow folks to easily backup their 1680K boot disks using
the firewall itself (rather than requiring folks use a full linux disto
or something like winimage).

The script formats the floppy using:

fdformat device

where device is the desired high-capacity floppy device (such as
fd0u1680).  You might try the fdformat command on your bering system,
and see if you get any better results.

Otherwise, maybe you've got a batch of bad floppies?

Charles Steinkuehler
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Re: [leaf-user] WISP partition questions

2002-11-02 Thread Vladimir I.
Lee Kimber wrote about [leaf-user] WISP partition questions:

 But I'd like to create a second partition for WISP's read/write files...
 
 Now I looking at shoving an ancient Antec Descartes CF card reader/writer 
 in a separate Linux box so I'm wondering if people have successfully 
 partitioned and formatted the CF card for WISP using straightforward Linux 
 fdisk and fdformat?

Yes. No need for fdformat though.

 
 Also, is the second partition to be DOS or minix or does it not matter?

It would be minix, but what you set as partition type shouldn't matter.

 I've got an 8MB CF card so in theory I can dd the 
 wisp-dist_2348_img_wdist.bin file on the LEAF downloads page. But... I can 
 get this binary to yield its .img content. I've made it executable but 
 executing it doesn't do anything. Is this a MacBinary? I'll bet I'm missing 
 something else so I'm looking for a clue!

Wait, this *is* an image. In other words, it's already 
extracted and ready to be dd'ed. :-)

 I'll also be trying to work out how to get a RTL8019AS driver on to the CF 
 but I reckon I'll be able to work that out on my own.

What is the usual Linux driver for it? ne2k-pci?

-- 
Best Regards,
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Re: [leaf-user] superformat question

2002-11-02 Thread arif mamdani

On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 01:34 PM, Jeff wrote:


I am at wits end. I am trying to create a 1680 floppy for using 
Bering. I've done this before. I created several for eigerstien.

If you've done this before, using the same machine, same floppy drive, 
etc, then it's almost certainly a bad set of floppies.  I once had a 
run of 11 bad floppies in a row -- seems there's something about the 
larger disk format that just makes some floppies unhappy.  My solution 
was to stop trying to reuse the old floppies that I dug out from under 
desks and behind radiators and just buy a fresh box of them -- didn't 
have any problems with those.

Try it with a fresh disk, if that doesn't work, try it in a different 
machine with a fresh disk. . . though from the sound of it, it sure 
sounds like a couple of flaky floppies -- and generally, if the 
floppy's bad, it's bad.  You can't just re-run superformat or fdformat 
and hope that it will work the next time around.

good luck,

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Re: [leaf-user] WISP partition questions

2002-11-02 Thread Lee Kimber


Wait, this *is* an image. In other words, it's already
extracted and ready to be dd'ed. :-)


Ho ho! That caught me out nicely! ;-)



 I'll also be trying to work out how to get a RTL8019AS driver on to the CF
 but I reckon I'll be able to work that out on my own.

What is the usual Linux driver for it? ne2k-pci?


This is an ISA card so I'm guessing it is ne.

The card is set up and has a non-conflicting IRQ but WISP is not finding it 
on boot.


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[leaf-user] bering and tinydns

2002-11-02 Thread Brett
hi,
i'm toying with the idea of using a bering box ( p100
32M ram) with tinydns to be used for a public dns
server.  
there will probably not be any client machines or
servers behind this box.
is anyone doing this?(i did not find much on this in
the archives)  any gotchas if someone is doing this
now?

thanks,
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Re: [leaf-user] Bering RC-4 unexplainable holes in shorewall - long

2002-11-02 Thread Tom Eastep


--On Friday, November 01, 2002 10:27:51 PM -0400 Jeff Clark 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My problems begin with the fact that shorewall does show a REJECT policy
for the onl network with the all2all chain even though it appears to
establish one - I cannot ftp or ssh from ofl to onl or access the net
from ofl.


The grammer and logic in the above paragraph defy words. I have absolutely 
no idea what you are trying to say.


However, I can ping freely between the networks and most disturbing is my
ability to ping internal clients on both internal networks from the
EXTERNAL network - even masq'd clients.  I know the norfc1918 option on
zone net will stop this but shouldn't the overall policy of net2all
prevent this?


Pinging and overall policy are two different things in Shorewall. Most 
users (probably irrationally) expect to be able to ping even when they want 
to prevent establishment of any other type of connection -- they see 'ping' 
as the magic bullet that proves connectivity.

In order to drive down the number of posts that say

whine
I can't ping
/whine

I implemented a shorewall.conf variable called FORWARDPING. If set to Yes, 
this variable causes icmp echo requests to be accepted in the FORWARD chain 
prior to the application of POLICY. FORWARDPING=Yes is the default value -- 
if you don't like it, you can of course set it to No.

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[leaf-user] Bering RC4 + hostap_cs.o

2002-11-02 Thread John Kicklighter
I am working on creating a laptop based wireless access point.  I have
purchased two prismII based wlan cards (Engenius NL-2511CD PLUS -
200Mw!) and cannot get the AP drivers loaded.  I am getting an error
that the

CardServices release does not match

when I run

insmod hostap_cs

(after I have already loaded the 3 other hostap modules: hostap_crypt.o,
hostap_crypt_wep.o and hostap.o).  As far as I can tell, this is an
incompatible combination.  I am using the pcmcia.lrp from the latest
area of the package repository for Bering and the modules that come with
Bering RC4.  My thought is that I need a version of the pcmcia.lrp that
matches what the hostap_cs.o is built for.  I tried to use the
pcmcia.lrp package from RC3, but that suffers from the same problem
along with not matching the release version for pcnet_cs.o either

The PCMCIA service is working since my Ethernet adapter is a PCMCIA card
(pcnet_cs.o) and it seems work under RC4.

Eventually, I will be switching to the wisp-dist as soon as my CF to
SFF-IDE flash adapter arrives in the mail, but since wisp-dist is also
based on Bering, I will probably have the same problem.  Any ideas on
how to solve the problem?

Any tips on how to bring up the wlan0 interface after the drivers are
loaded would be a help too.  I'm sure that will be my next hurdle.

Thanks.



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Re: [leaf-user] bering and tinydns

2002-11-02 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
 i'm toying with the idea of using a bering box ( p100
 32M ram) with tinydns to be used for a public dns
 server.
 there will probably not be any client machines or
 servers behind this box.
 is anyone doing this?(i did not find much on this in
 the archives)  any gotchas if someone is doing this
 now?

I was doing something similar with LRP and bind for a while, but I've
migrated to bind 9.x, which won't gracefully compile with the older libc
used by LEAF distos, so I've moved DNS to RedHat based servers (I'm
using lots of the new 9.x features, including multiple views, which is
kind of akward to setup with tinydns).

Other than issues you might run into with using tinydns vs the more
standard bind, there are no particular gotcha's with using LEAF for
a thin server OS.  Although mainly used for routers  firewalls, the
nothing but the basics mentality works just as well for small,
dedicated servers.  Just remember you don't have emacs, perl, etc., but
for something like a DNS server, you probably don't need that anyway.

Charles Steinkuehler
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Re: [leaf-user] bering and tinydns

2002-11-02 Thread H. D. Lee
On 2002.11.02_17:39:26_+, Brett wrote:
 i'm toying with the idea of using a bering box ( p100
 32M ram) with tinydns to be used for a public dns
 server.  

What did you refer to as public dns server? is it going to serve your
dns data (tinydns)? or is it going to be a resolver that used by public 
to query dns data (dnscache)?

 there will probably not be any client machines or
 servers behind this box.

ok.

 is anyone doing this?(i did not find much on this in
 the archives)  any gotchas if someone is doing this
 now?

Yes, if you have no client machine or server behind the box, that means
one interface (NIC) is enough it. No gotchas, if you follow the
documentation, both Bering and the official http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html.
FYI, the latter has been revamped lately, please check often because djb
is updating the documentation very much daily. For basic installation,
it have been there and proven helpful.
 
 thanks,
 brett
 

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Re: [leaf-user] bering and tinydns

2002-11-02 Thread Brett
this is to serve dns data with tinydns.
i have it up and running, but was curious if this was
a good project for leaf.  so far the responses have
said it is

thanks,
brett

--- H. D. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2002.11.02_17:39:26_+, Brett wrote:
  i'm toying with the idea of using a bering box (
 p100
  32M ram) with tinydns to be used for a public dns
  server.  
 
 What did you refer to as public dns server? is it
 going to serve your
 dns data (tinydns)? or is it going to be a resolver
 that used by public 
 to query dns data (dnscache)?
 
  there will probably not be any client machines or
  servers behind this box.
 
 ok.
 
  is anyone doing this?(i did not find much on this
 in
  the archives)  any gotchas if someone is doing
 this
  now?
 
 Yes, if you have no client machine or server behind
 the box, that means
 one interface (NIC) is enough it. No gotchas, if you
 follow the
 documentation, both Bering and the official
 http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html.
 FYI, the latter has been revamped lately, please
 check often because djb
 is updating the documentation very much daily. For
 basic installation,
 it have been there and proven helpful.
  
  thanks,
  brett
  
 
 -- 
 H. D. Lee
 http://www.dutnux.com
 
 
 

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Re: [leaf-user] Need help getting Intel PRO/100 S Desktop Adapterrecognized.

2002-11-02 Thread Greg Morgan
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The PCI bus is scanned properly under RedHat 7.2 and works fine. I don't think
that is it.

In fact the dmesg output looks ok to me and is almost the same under redhat and
bering rc4, except for the PCI stuff that is.

I have disabled the realtek card.


OK, I have a wild idea based on a troubling experience I had two weeks 
ago.  Oracle has just created bug 2652798 on their Oracle Lite product. 
I had two identical servers at work.  One had more memory than the 
other.  The Compaq server with less memory displayed the Mobile Server 
webtogo site in Oracle Lite properly.  The production server with over 
1405MB would not serve the webtogo site up.  Apache just hung on the page.

Go figure! I lost a week on the project until I took some memory out. :-(

I don't have time to try it now plus I'd have to try the Bering 
distribution, but my ECS board below has sockets for both PC 133 and 
PC2100 memory.  PC2100 memory is faster, and perhaps requires a 
different bus architecturally in the kernel.  (That's was the best speed 
increase in a computer that I have seen in awhile when I switched from 
PC133 to PC2100 on this mother board. YaDa YaDA.)  So my proposal is to 
try and boot Bering on this mother board presuming it would fail to 
recognize the Ethernet cards.  Switch back to PC133 and boot Bering 
again presuming it would recognize the Ethernet cards.  If this proves 
to be true, then perhaps there are kernel options to recognize PC2100 
and the newer PC2700 memory.  Perhaps Red Hat has compiled them into the 
kernel?   Perhaps Bering would have to compile them in?  (H PC2700 
memory bus speeds at 333MHZ.  What a concept!?)



On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:39:16 -0700
 Greg Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Jeff Greer wrote:


It would appear to be a CPU issue.

I am running an AMD 1700+ with 128MB DDR 2100 RAM.



For what its worth many of these boards have lots of on-board extras. My
Elitegroup ECS K7S5A, which sounds like yours has both a reltec ethernet and
AMR devices onboard.  I disabled them.  Ummm...I go for cheap any more on
component, which the ECS falls under.  So far I've had no problems. Any
chance the PCI bus is bad on the motherboard?

Greg Morgan








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Re: [leaf-user] Bering RC-4 unexplainable holes in shorewall - long

2002-11-02 Thread Jeff Clark

- Original Message -
From: Tom Eastep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jeff Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering RC-4 unexplainable holes in shorewall - long




 --On Friday, November 01, 2002 10:27:51 PM -0400 Jeff Clark
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  My problems begin with the fact that shorewall does show a REJECT policy
  for the onl network with the all2all chain even though it appears to
  establish one - I cannot ftp or ssh from ofl to onl or access the net
  from ofl.

 The grammer and logic in the above paragraph defy words
^^^
I have seen far worse on this list that didn't solicit a comment such as
this=-)

My question was why does the output of 'shorewall start' not list all
zone-to-zone policies?  For example, in my original post I stated that I've
create 2 internal zones, 'ofl' and 'onl'.  I have not created any policies
or rules to allow traffic between 'ofl' and 'onl'.  Therefore I would expect
to see output from 'shorewall start' such as:

Policy REJECT for ofl to onl using chain all2all
Policy REJECT for onl to ofl using chain all2all

As shown in the original post, these policies are not listed.  Further
testing at the time showed me that traffic such as ftp or ssh are indeed
rejected between the 2 zones 'onl' and 'ofl'.  Further testing today has
shown me that 'shorewall start' only shows policies between zones if the
zones are referenced in a rule.  This all makes sense to me now and renders
the above question pointless, unless I'm way off here, in which case please
feel free to correct me.

There is still the question of pinging between networks that are isolated by
policy, which is discussed below.

 
  However, I can ping freely between the networks and most disturbing is
my
  ability to ping internal clients on both internal networks from the
  EXTERNAL network - even masq'd clients.  I know the norfc1918 option on
  zone net will stop this but shouldn't the overall policy of net2all
  prevent this?

 Pinging and overall policy are two different things in Shorewall. Most
 users (probably irrationally) expect to be able to ping even when they
want
 to prevent establishment of any other type of connection -- they see
'ping'
 as the magic bullet that proves connectivity.



I agree with you here.  If one is preventing ALL connections between
networks then there is no need to ping between those networks - ping within
the network or from the gateway only.



 In order to drive down the number of posts that say

 whine
 I can't ping
 /whine

 I implemented a shorewall.conf variable called FORWARDPING. If set to Yes,
 this variable causes icmp echo requests to be accepted in the FORWARD
chain
 prior to the application of POLICY. FORWARDPING=Yes is the default
value --
 if you don't like it, you can of course set it to No.


I've since re-read Tom's excellent doc's (after a long break) and
FORWARDPING slapped me square in the forehead.  FORWARDPING is now set to
no. ( I knew I was missing something horrendously obvious but that's what
happens after 10 or 12 hours of working on this stuff without stepping away
for a while =-)  )

I have now solved my problem of isolating the two networks from each other,
including pinging, with filterping and FORWARDPING set to no.  Filterping on
an interface does have a side affect of preventing machines on that network
from pinging that interface if you do not ACCEPT traffic from that zone to
fw.  However this is easily overcome by adding the a rule to ACCEPT icmp
from that zone to fw:ip.of.that.ethx/32

Okay, it's 2 am again and I'm rambling...again.  Lessons learned are: (a) if
you can't get something to work that should work, take a break every now and
then or you'll end up screwing it up worse, and (b) if you're going to
criticize someone's grammar, spell it correctly (just kidding!!!Please no
flames!)  =-)






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