Re: [LU] Wolves

[Ted]

Yeah - I agree Nick - I thought the first 30 mins was brilliant, Ayling was
great.  Thoroughly enjoyable.  We were the better side first half, them
second.  I agree, a draw would have been fairer but I've no real complaints.
(Bearing in mind it was 5 years ago yesterday that we got Steve fukcing
Evans!!)

Ted H

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 01:37, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  I don't know I thought the first 30 minutes was fantastic. Some great
> football. Yes the second half not as good and they got to grips with us but
> a draw was definitely merited.
> Nick
> On Monday, October 19, 2020, 06:31:47 PM EDT, John Lee via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>  A learning experience indeed. I’d like to see Pablo given a start - we
> need some guile, and whilst he’s not a long-term answer, he’s the best
> we’ve got.
>
> The way they pinned Dallas back and snuffed us out suggest Santo won the
> tactical battle, although a draw would have been merited imho.
>
> We better get used to that - not everyone is going to come and take us on,
> so some flexibility is going to be required?
>
> Some shocking crossing, and passing, at times, and Phillips was v lucky to
> stay on the pitch - very stupid, and I bet Southgate made a note of that
> tackle?
>
> The defeat will probably do us more good than a 0-0 though - a bit of
> expectation management for us all ;-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 19 Oct 2020, at 22:49, Nick  wrote:
> >
> > That fell flat didn’t it.
> >
> > With the exception of Meslier, Koch and perhaps Rodrigo, no one was
> really on their game today.
> >
> > Unlucky goal again, but we’ve got to do much more with possession. That
> said, their CH Kilman was MOTM by a mile.
> >
> > Its all a learning experience.
> >
> > Nick
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[Nick]

realising I didn’t say it…yes, I thought a draw would have been fair.

Nick

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 01:36, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> I don't know I thought the first 30 minutes was fantastic. Some great 
> football. Yes the second half not as good and they got to grips with us but a 
> draw was definitely merited.
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Monday, October 19, 2020, 06:31:47 PM EDT, John Lee via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A learning experience indeed. I’d like to see Pablo given a start - we need 
> some guile, and whilst he’s not a long-term answer, he’s the best we’ve got.
> 
> The way they pinned Dallas back and snuffed us out suggest Santo won the 
> tactical battle, although a draw would have been merited imho. 
> 
> We better get used to that - not everyone is going to come and take us on, so 
> some flexibility is going to be required? 
> 
> Some shocking crossing, and passing, at times, and Phillips was v lucky to 
> stay on the pitch - very stupid, and I bet Southgate made a note of that 
> tackle?
> 
> The defeat will probably do us more good than a 0-0 though - a bit of 
> expectation management for us all ;-) 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 19 Oct 2020, at 22:49, Nick  > > wrote:
> > 
> > That fell flat didn’t it.
> > 
> > With the exception of Meslier, Koch and perhaps Rodrigo, no one was really 
> > on their game today.
> > 
> > Unlucky goal again, but we’ve got to do much more with possession. That 
> > said, their CH Kilman was MOTM by a mile.
> > 
> > Its all a learning experience.
> > 
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[David Boocock]

We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable football
is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!

It’s a loss get real.

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 5:18 pm, Ted  wrote:

> Yeah - I agree Nick - I thought the first 30 mins was brilliant, Ayling was
> great.  Thoroughly enjoyable.  We were the better side first half, them
> second.  I agree, a draw would have been fairer but I've no real
> complaints.
> (Bearing in mind it was 5 years ago yesterday that we got Steve fukcing
> Evans!!)
>
> Ted H
>
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 01:37, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> >  I don't know I thought the first 30 minutes was fantastic. Some great
> > football. Yes the second half not as good and they got to grips with us
> but
> > a draw was definitely merited.
> > Nick
> > On Monday, October 19, 2020, 06:31:47 PM EDT, John Lee via Leedslist
> <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >  A learning experience indeed. I’d like to see Pablo given a start - we
> > need some guile, and whilst he’s not a long-term answer, he’s the best
> > we’ve got.
> >
> > The way they pinned Dallas back and snuffed us out suggest Santo won the
> > tactical battle, although a draw would have been merited imho.
> >
> > We better get used to that - not everyone is going to come and take us
> on,
> > so some flexibility is going to be required?
> >
> > Some shocking crossing, and passing, at times, and Phillips was v lucky
> to
> > stay on the pitch - very stupid, and I bet Southgate made a note of that
> > tackle?
> >
> > The defeat will probably do us more good than a 0-0 though - a bit of
> > expectation management for us all ;-)
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 19 Oct 2020, at 22:49, Nick  wrote:
> > >
> > > That fell flat didn’t it.
> > >
> > > With the exception of Meslier, Koch and perhaps Rodrigo, no one was
> > really on their game today.
> > >
> > > Unlucky goal again, but we’ve got to do much more with possession. That
> > said, their CH Kilman was MOTM by a mile.
> > >
> > > Its all a learning experience.
> > >
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[Ted]

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:28, David Boocock  wrote:

> We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable football
> is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
> 8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!
>
> It’s a loss get real.
>
>
> So you didn't enjoy the first 30 minutes?  We've had to put up with mostly
dross for most of the last 16 or so years, over that time I've gone to
watch Leeds mostly out of habit or to see mates - so yes, I can enjoy games
last night for what it was.  I was/am still disappointed that we lost but
it's not the end of the world anymore for me.  I'm more gutted that we
can't be there.

Cheers.
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[Nick]

exactly Ted - that was my biggest gripe, not being at the ground…I hate 
watching our games on TV

And you know - we lost a game or two last season, it turned out OK 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 08:37, Ted  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:28, David Boocock  wrote:
> 
>> We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable football
>> is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
>> 8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!
>> 
>> It’s a loss get real.
>> 
>> 
>> So you didn't enjoy the first 30 minutes?  We've had to put up with mostly
> dross for most of the last 16 or so years, over that time I've gone to
> watch Leeds mostly out of habit or to see mates - so yes, I can enjoy games
> last night for what it was.  I was/am still disappointed that we lost but
> it's not the end of the world anymore for me.  I'm more gutted that we
> can't be there.
> 
> Cheers.
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[David Boocock]

From the Swinnow area of Queensland a loss is a loss, which ever way you
dress it up🤓

Norman and big Jack would never accept this.

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 5:39 pm, Nick  wrote:

> exactly Ted - that was my biggest gripe, not being at the ground…I hate
> watching our games on TV
>
> And you know - we lost a game or two last season, it turned out OK
>
> > On 20 Oct 2020, at 08:37, Ted  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:28, David Boocock  wrote:
> >
> >> We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable
> football
> >> is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
> >> 8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!
> >>
> >> It’s a loss get real.
> >>
> >>
> >> So you didn't enjoy the first 30 minutes?  We've had to put up with
> mostly
> > dross for most of the last 16 or so years, over that time I've gone to
> > watch Leeds mostly out of habit or to see mates - so yes, I can enjoy
> games
> > last night for what it was.  I was/am still disappointed that we lost but
> > it's not the end of the world anymore for me.  I'm more gutted that we
> > can't be there.
> >
> > Cheers.
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[nigel]

I'm not massively downhearted about the loss. They happen. 

I do however continue to be perplexed at our lack of ability to cross the ball 
with any hint of ability. This has been an ongoing, glaringly obvious issue for 
all our time under Bielsa, yet not only do we not seem able to sort it out, we 
actively continue to play an attacking game which relies almost entirely on it. 
 Our repeated, patient, build-up play allows the opposition to regroup and mass 
in defense, and then when we eventually get the ball to a 'winger', the 
resulting cross pretty much never hits a white shirt.  We had what, three(?) 
last night that got into a dangerous area (one on Rodders' head that he should 
have done better with, one that they cleared off Paddy's foot for what should 
have been a corner, and one from Raph with his first touch after coming on). 
That may well be all that's needed on another day, but it was probably less 
than 10% of the crosses we attempted.

On the whole, the biggest frustration is that when we attack I have a sense of 
inevitability about us not even creating a chance (largely because of the 
crossing thing above), and for very different reasons, when Wolves attacked 
last night I had a sense that they may score.  Within 10 seconds of both times 
that they had the ball in the net last night, I had said to my son "they're 
gonna score here, if we continue to let them do this".

I saw several Tweets last night from other clubs' fans saying "all Leeds do is 
run, run, run", and to some extent they're right.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of David Boocock
Sent: 20 October 2020 09:15
To: Nick 
Cc: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves

From the Swinnow area of Queensland a loss is a loss, which ever way you dress 
it up🤓

Norman and big Jack would never accept this.

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 5:39 pm, Nick  wrote:

> exactly Ted - that was my biggest gripe, not being at the ground…I 
> hate watching our games on TV
>
> And you know - we lost a game or two last season, it turned out OK
>
> > On 20 Oct 2020, at 08:37, Ted  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:28, David Boocock  wrote:
> >
> >> We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable
> football
> >> is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
> >> 8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!
> >>
> >> It’s a loss get real.
> >>
> >>
> >> So you didn't enjoy the first 30 minutes?  We've had to put up with
> mostly
> > dross for most of the last 16 or so years, over that time I've gone 
> > to watch Leeds mostly out of habit or to see mates - so yes, I can 
> > enjoy
> games
> > last night for what it was.  I was/am still disappointed that we 
> > lost but it's not the end of the world anymore for me.  I'm more 
> > gutted that we can't be there.
> >
> > Cheers.
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[Michael Benjamin]

They Wolves, are a great team who are improving. They have a good coach, lots 
of investment, they are experienced and gelled.
We are where they were three years ago.
Let's wait, so far so very good.

Michael

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of 
ni...@sykesonline.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:33:15 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves

I'm not massively downhearted about the loss. They happen.

I do however continue to be perplexed at our lack of ability to cross the ball 
with any hint of ability. This has been an ongoing, glaringly obvious issue for 
all our time under Bielsa, yet not only do we not seem able to sort it out, we 
actively continue to play an attacking game which relies almost entirely on it. 
 Our repeated, patient, build-up play allows the opposition to regroup and mass 
in defense, and then when we eventually get the ball to a 'winger', the 
resulting cross pretty much never hits a white shirt.  We had what, three(?) 
last night that got into a dangerous area (one on Rodders' head that he should 
have done better with, one that they cleared off Paddy's foot for what should 
have been a corner, and one from Raph with his first touch after coming on). 
That may well be all that's needed on another day, but it was probably less 
than 10% of the crosses we attempted.

On the whole, the biggest frustration is that when we attack I have a sense of 
inevitability about us not even creating a chance (largely because of the 
crossing thing above), and for very different reasons, when Wolves attacked 
last night I had a sense that they may score.  Within 10 seconds of both times 
that they had the ball in the net last night, I had said to my son "they're 
gonna score here, if we continue to let them do this".

I saw several Tweets last night from other clubs' fans saying "all Leeds do is 
run, run, run", and to some extent they're right.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of David Boocock
Sent: 20 October 2020 09:15
To: Nick 
Cc: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves

From the Swinnow area of Queensland a loss is a loss, which ever way you dress 
it up🤓

Norman and big Jack would never accept this.

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 5:39 pm, Nick  wrote:

> exactly Ted - that was my biggest gripe, not being at the ground…I
> hate watching our games on TV
>
> And you know - we lost a game or two last season, it turned out OK
>
> > On 20 Oct 2020, at 08:37, Ted  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:28, David Boocock  wrote:
> >
> >> We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable
> football
> >> is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
> >> 8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!
> >>
> >> It’s a loss get real.
> >>
> >>
> >> So you didn't enjoy the first 30 minutes?  We've had to put up with
> mostly
> > dross for most of the last 16 or so years, over that time I've gone
> > to watch Leeds mostly out of habit or to see mates - so yes, I can
> > enjoy
> games
> > last night for what it was.  I was/am still disappointed that we
> > lost but it's not the end of the world anymore for me.  I'm more
> > gutted that we can't be there.
> >
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Re: [LU] Wolves

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Your inability to cross line made me laugh Nigel, although it wouldn’t have 
done last night!

I think Michael makes a fair point about being where Wolves were 3 years ago. 
This season is, despite us all wanting to surprise everyone and win the league, 
one of consolidation. If we can see the failings then so can Bielsa, although 
whether he’s up for changing his systems is debatable? 

We did play some slick passes at times last night, created a few half chances, 
but I’m not sure I thought we were going to score - the crowded defence was 
reminiscent of last season, and Bamford needs a bit of space. 

We do need a point at least from Villa’s formation diving squad, and I hope we 
take it to them, play Hernandez from the start, and whup them. Tis a shame they 
have Barkley now, one of my favourite current players - don’t let him shoot!

Did I read somewhere the Villa game is on Amazon? 




> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> They Wolves, are a great team who are improving. They have a good coach, lots 
> of investment, they are experienced and gelled.
> We are where they were three years ago.
> Let's wait, so far so very good.
> 
> Michael
> 
> Get Outlook for Android
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of 
> ni...@sykesonline.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:33:15 AM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves
> 
> I'm not massively downhearted about the loss. They happen.
> 
> I do however continue to be perplexed at our lack of ability to cross the 
> ball with any hint of ability. This has been an ongoing, glaringly obvious 
> issue for all our time under Bielsa, yet not only do we not seem able to sort 
> it out, we actively continue to play an attacking game which relies almost 
> entirely on it.  Our repeated, patient, build-up play allows the opposition 
> to regroup and mass in defense, and then when we eventually get the ball to a 
> 'winger', the resulting cross pretty much never hits a white shirt.  We had 
> what, three(?) last night that got into a dangerous area (one on Rodders' 
> head that he should have done better with, one that they cleared off Paddy's 
> foot for what should have been a corner, and one from Raph with his first 
> touch after coming on). That may well be all that's needed on another day, 
> but it was probably less than 10% of the crosses we attempted.
> 
> On the whole, the biggest frustration is that when we attack I have a sense 
> of inevitability about us not even creating a chance (largely because of the 
> crossing thing above), and for very different reasons, when Wolves attacked 
> last night I had a sense that they may score.  Within 10 seconds of both 
> times that they had the ball in the net last night, I had said to my son 
> "they're gonna score here, if we continue to let them do this".
> 
> I saw several Tweets last night from other clubs' fans saying "all Leeds do 
> is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of David Boocock
> Sent: 20 October 2020 09:15
> To: Nick 
> Cc: leeds list 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves
> 
> From the Swinnow area of Queensland a loss is a loss, which ever way you 
> dress it up🤓
> 
> Norman and big Jack would never accept this.
> 
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 5:39 pm, Nick  wrote:
>> 
>> exactly Ted - that was my biggest gripe, not being at the ground…I
>> hate watching our games on TV
>> 
>> And you know - we lost a game or two last season, it turned out OK
>> 
>>> On 20 Oct 2020, at 08:37, Ted  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:28, David Boocock  wrote:
>>> 
 We lost it doesn’t count,  another game to make up. If enjoyable
>> football
 is watching your team lose I may as well follow Barnstoneworth United!
 8-1...8 bloody 1, to Brighouse! The centre forward wears glasses!
 
 It’s a loss get real.
 
 
 So you didn't enjoy the first 30 minutes?  We've had to put up with
>> mostly
>>> dross for most of the last 16 or so years, over that time I've gone
>>> to watch Leeds mostly out of habit or to see mates - so yes, I can
>>> enjoy
>> games
>>> last night for what it was.  I was/am still disappointed that we
>>> lost but it's not the end of the world anymore for me.  I'm more
>>> gutted that we can't be there.
>>> 
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[LU] Wolves

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

A tad pissed off after last night and not felt that for a while which is good. 
I thought Wolves played the perfect game, they defended en masse with 3 central 
defenders and despite us coming out of the tracks fast they never really looked 
in trouble demonstrated by the fact that their keeper has not had to make a 
decent save all night. 
It really was the same story as we have seen many times under Bielsa. Lots of 
possession, lots of good link up play, lots of good positions but then failing 
to really hurt the opposition in the last 3rd. Costa did some great things in 
the first 15 minutes but what did he really have to show for it  ? Knack all 
apart from a feeble penalty claim. On the other side, Harrison was up to his 
old tricks, promising lots and delivering nothing. I think both Costa and 
Harrison will be hanging on to their shirts in the coming weeks with Poveda and 
Rafinha improving every week. 
And there's Lord Bamford. Great start to the season but in a game like this 
he's never gonna get a sniff. Surely there was a case of taking him off and 
trying something different ? 
Wolves second half, upped the tempo and for the first time for a while I 
thought we looked knackered. Philips who strolled through most of the first 
half with little to do other than pass backwards or square suddenly found 
himself outrun, outpaced and outclassed in midfield. His passing game also 
deserted him and he looked a sorry sight before being moved into the back four. 
Klich doesn't help him. People always say, Klich does a lot of things that you 
don't appreciate. Maybe but last night, his little flicks and passes weren't 
cutting it and I just wanted to see him roll up his sleeves and help Kalvin 
out. He didn't. 
Wolves are a very good side, with very good players. I thought they thoroughly 
deserved the win. On to Villa.
Miesler - 7. Didn't do much wrong and made a good save at the end of the first 
half 
Ayling - 6. Started well but second half he totally lost his passing range and 
kept giving the ball away. Great block 2nd half. 
Dallas - 6. Was pinned back but he stuck to his task and actually defended ok. 
Got skinned once first half. 
Koch - 8. Didn't really out a foot wrong and looked commanding on the ball 
first half. His cleared header went straight to Siass for their disallowed goal 
but it was hrdly a mistake. Like the look of this lad. 
Strujik - 7. Did really well. I think he is pushing Cooper for that place now. 
Slipped for the goal but that was unfortunate. 
Philips - 4. I think we should be prepared for more matches like this for him. 
He's going to really struggle in this league. How anyone thinks he is 
international / top PL class is beyond me ?
Klich - 5. Flitting around but not contributing 
Harrison - 4. Very disappointing. 
Costa - 5. Good start then you forgot he was on the pitch. 
Rodrigo - 7. I thought he was lively throughout but again not really hurting 
the opposition. Be good if Bamford had the ability to play some football with 
him. At least Hernandez tried to play on his level. 
Bamford - 4. Really poor, marked out of the game. 
Subs: 
Hernandez - 7. I thought he looked lively and if he is fit then he plays for 
me. 
Poveda - 4. Just didn't figure but I don't really blame him for that 
Raninha - 6. Looked lively. 
 
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[Nick]

"all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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[LU] Bloody hell!

[Robert Heath]

Can we start having a few easy bloody games please?

4 of our next 5 games are v teams in the current top 6 (and we've already
played the other 2) (+ Man City.)
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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 I think if we can get 7/8 points from that we are doing well. That would be 
say 15 points from a possible 30/33. 1.5 points a game equals 57 points in the 
season easily survived relegation.
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 07:30:38 AM EDT, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 Can we start having a few easy bloody games please?

4 of our next 5 games are v teams in the current top 6 (and we've already
played the other 2) (+ Man City.)
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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Total bollocks.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  
 
 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Exactly. Really we played a really good, established premier league team who 
have excellent players and are in Europe and we made them look shit for 25-30 
minutes. Yes the clear-cut chances did not come but it was great. Second half 
they were better but we never looked totally outplayed (they are going to 
trouble any team) and that they pulled 10 men behind the ball after they scored 
was a testament to us I think.
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:18:24 AM EDT, Ted  
wrote:  
 
 Yeah - I agree Nick - I thought the first 30 mins was brilliant, Ayling was 
great.  Thoroughly enjoyable.  We were the better side first half, them second. 
 I agree, a draw would have been fairer but I've no real complaints.(Bearing in 
mind it was 5 years ago yesterday that we got Steve fukcing Evans!!)
Ted H
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 01:37, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 I don't know I thought the first 30 minutes was fantastic. Some great 
football. Yes the second half not as good and they got to grips with us but a 
draw was definitely merited.
Nick
    On Monday, October 19, 2020, 06:31:47 PM EDT, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:  

 A learning experience indeed. I’d like to see Pablo given a start - we need 
some guile, and whilst he’s not a long-term answer, he’s the best we’ve got.

The way they pinned Dallas back and snuffed us out suggest Santo won the 
tactical battle, although a draw would have been merited imho. 

We better get used to that - not everyone is going to come and take us on, so 
some flexibility is going to be required? 

Some shocking crossing, and passing, at times, and Phillips was v lucky to stay 
on the pitch - very stupid, and I bet Southgate made a note of that tackle?

The defeat will probably do us more good than a 0-0 though - a bit of 
expectation management for us all ;-) 

Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Oct 2020, at 22:49, Nick  wrote:
> 
> That fell flat didn’t it.
> 
> With the exception of Meslier, Koch and perhaps Rodrigo, no one was really on 
> their game today.
> 
> Unlucky goal again, but we’ve got to do much more with possession. That said, 
> their CH Kilman was MOTM by a mile.
> 
> Its all a learning experience.
> 
> Nick
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[Nick]

yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…

I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our style of 
play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.

We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.

Nick

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> Total bollocks.
> 
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona 
> did was pass, pass, pass…
> 
> get in and stop them…do something better…
> 
> N 
> 
> > On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  > > wrote:
> > 
> > "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right
> 
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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the same 
thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks what you 
are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
;-)
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  
 
 yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…
I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our style of 
play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.
Nick


On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
 Total bollocks.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  
 
 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Not sure how anyone can say we deserved a draw or at least a draw when their 
keeper has not made a save all night ? I thought we were out thought and out 
played by a very good side.


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On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 3:46 pm, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the same 
thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks what you 
are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
;-)
Nick
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  
 
 yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…
I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our style of 
play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.
Nick


On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
 Total bollocks.
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  
 
 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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[Jim Moran]

Apart from the two shots on goal, and the (I hate it) greater expected
goals, and that had Phillips left the shot alone we’d have drawn 0-0, which
would have been a deserved draw. Tight game. Any result would have been
“deserved” or fair.

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 20:07, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Not sure how anyone can say we deserved a draw or at least a draw when
> their keeper has not made a save all night ? I thought we were out thought
> and out played by a very good side.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 3:46 pm, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>  No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the
> same thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks
> what you are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
> ;-)
> Nick
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick <
> n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…
> I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our
> style of play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
> We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last
> night this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are
> going to be OK here.
> Nick
>
>
> On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
>  Total bollocks.
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick <
> n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain /
> Barcelona did was pass, pass, pass…
>
> get in and stop them…do something better…
>
> N
>
> > On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> >
> > "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right
>
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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Their goalie made two saves...directly at him but two saves. Also they had a 
goal rightly disallowed, one great save from Meslier and the goal. Besides that 
nothing else I believe. Rich I think you are being extremely critical here we 
were killing them the first 25-30 with really great play.
And I actually think that was a clear penalty. Soft but he had an arm on Costa 
and tripped him.
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:20:52 PM EDT, Jim Moran 
 wrote:  
 
 Apart from the two shots on goal, and the (I hate it) greater expected goals, 
and that had Phillips left the shot alone we’d have drawn 0-0, which would have 
been a deserved draw. Tight game. Any result would have been “deserved” or 
fair. 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 20:07, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Not sure how anyone can say we deserved a draw or at least a draw when their 
keeper has not made a save all night ? I thought we were out thought and out 
played by a very good side.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 3:46 pm, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the same 
thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks what you 
are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
;-)
Nick
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…
I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our style of 
play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.
Nick


On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
 Total bollocks.
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

There were plenty of positives but we were well beaten by a better team. I’m 
struggling to remember those saves. I think you might be confusing save with 
picking the ball up.


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On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 8:26 pm, Nicholas Armit  wrote:

 Their goalie made two saves...directly at him but two saves. Also they had a 
goal rightly disallowed, one great save from Meslier and the goal. Besides that 
nothing else I believe. Rich I think you are being extremely critical here we 
were killing them the first 25-30 with really great play.
And I actually think that was a clear penalty. Soft but he had an arm on Costa 
and tripped him.
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:20:52 PM EDT, Jim Moran 
 wrote:  
 
 Apart from the two shots on goal, and the (I hate it) greater expected goals, 
and that had Phillips left the shot alone we’d have drawn 0-0, which would have 
been a deserved draw. Tight game. Any result would have been “deserved” or 
fair. 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 20:07, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Not sure how anyone can say we deserved a draw or at least a draw when their 
keeper has not made a save all night ? I thought we were out thought and out 
played by a very good side.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 3:46 pm, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the same 
thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks what you 
are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
;-)
Nick
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…
I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our style of 
play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.
Nick


On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
 Total bollocks.
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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Re: [LU] Wolves

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Definitely one from Rodrigo (could have done better I thought) and thought 
there was another (but could be senility)
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:37:26 PM EDT, Richard Walker 
 wrote:  
 
 There were plenty of positives but we were well beaten by a better team. I’m 
struggling to remember those saves. I think you might be confusing save with 
picking the ball up.


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On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 8:26 pm, Nicholas Armit  wrote:

 Their goalie made two saves...directly at him but two saves. Also they had a 
goal rightly disallowed, one great save from Meslier and the goal. Besides that 
nothing else I believe. Rich I think you are being extremely critical here we 
were killing them the first 25-30 with really great play.
And I actually think that was a clear penalty. Soft but he had an arm on Costa 
and tripped him.
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:20:52 PM EDT, Jim Moran 
 wrote:  
 
 Apart from the two shots on goal, and the (I hate it) greater expected goals, 
and that had Phillips left the shot alone we’d have drawn 0-0, which would have 
been a deserved draw. Tight game. Any result would have been “deserved” or 
fair. 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 20:07, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Not sure how anyone can say we deserved a draw or at least a draw when their 
keeper has not made a save all night ? I thought we were out thought and out 
played by a very good side.


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On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 3:46 pm, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the same 
thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks what you 
are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
;-)
Nick
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey…
I was talking about what the fans of other teams were saying about our style of 
play…which, in case it hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.
Nick


On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
 Total bollocks.
    On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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Re: [LU] Wolves

[nigel]

The stats say we had 2 shots on target. One was Rodders in the first half, with 
a soft shot straight at the keeper. I assume the other came from Raph's blocked 
cross just after he came on?

Nigel
(the Dublin one) 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Nicholas Armit via 
Leedslist
Sent: 20 October 2020 20:40
To: Jim Moran ; Richard Walker 
Cc: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves

 Definitely one from Rodrigo (could have done better I thought) and thought 
there was another (but could be senility)
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:37:26 PM EDT, Richard Walker 
 wrote:  
 
 There were plenty of positives but we were well beaten by a better team. I’m 
struggling to remember those saves. I think you might be confusing save with 
picking the ball up.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 8:26 pm, Nicholas Armit  wrote:

 Their goalie made two saves...directly at him but two saves. Also they had a 
goal rightly disallowed, one great save from Meslier and the goal. Besides that 
nothing else I believe. Rich I think you are being extremely critical here we 
were killing them the first 25-30 with really great play.
And I actually think that was a clear penalty. Soft but he had an arm on Costa 
and tripped him.
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 03:20:52 PM EDT, Jim Moran 
 wrote:  
 
 Apart from the two shots on goal, and the (I hate it) greater expected goals, 
and that had Phillips left the shot alone we’d have drawn 0-0, which would have 
been a deserved draw. Tight game. Any result would have been “deserved” or 
fair. On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 20:07, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Not sure how anyone can say we deserved a draw or at least a draw when their 
keeper has not made a save all night ? I thought we were out thought and out 
played by a very good side.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 3:46 pm, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 No I hot that you were just commenting on what other fans said (saw the same 
thing on Twitter somewhere). What they are saying is total bollocks what you 
are saying is lucid, well-thought out and backed by evidence.
;-)
Nick
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 10:44:03 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 yeah - you’ve misunderstood me there…but hey… I was talking about what the 
fans of other teams were saying about our style of play…which, in case it 
hasn’t been clear, I am a huge fan of.
We’ve lost 2 out 5 so far - league winners needed two penalties - last night 
this solid Premier league outfit needed a lucky deflection…we are going to be 
OK here.
Nick


On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
 Total bollocks.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 05:59:40 AM EDT, Nick 
 wrote:  

 "all Leeds do is run, run, run”…is a bit like saying all Spain / Barcelona did 
was pass, pass, pass…

get in and stop them…do something better…

N 

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 09:47, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> "all Leeds do is run, run, run", and to some extent they're right

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