Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I think he’ll have learnt a big lesson from the Crawley game as to how to approach next season, if he’s still here? I like the sound of the 50 year anniversary and winning it again too ;-) Mind you, it does mean we’ll have to endure thousands of showings of Montgomery’s save again, not to mention references to Colchester, Sutton, Crawley, Histon, Wigan etc. > On 12 May 2021, at 08:21, Ian Murray wrote: > > Bielsa proved with our defeat to Crawley that we are properly cursed in the > cup. > > Maybe the curse allows us to win it every 50 years or so. In which case it's > on next year > > (I would also love it) > > > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
Bielsa proved with our defeat to Crawley that we are properly cursed in the cup. Maybe the curse allows us to win it every 50 years or so. In which case it's on next year (I would also love it) From: Leedslist on behalf of Tim Whelan via Leedslist Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2021 4:31 AM To: Richard Naef ; t...@3lv.uk ; e...@morrish.org Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there I’d love us to have a proper go at FA Cup next season. It’s annoying that the way the draw went this season we could have got to the semi-final without having to play anyone higher than us in the league. Though obviously with the restrictions it wouldn’t have been the greatest season to get to Wembley. Maybe next year. -- Original Message -- On Tuesday, 11 May, 21 At 12:13, Richard Naef wrote: I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early rounds. -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 To: e...@morrish.org Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in those 360 minutes. The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be aware of this and, hopefully address next season. Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the 'rigours of success' Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN StigOfTheMusingDump > >> >> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from >> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I >> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit >> > > I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able > to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. > Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski > > giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually > > been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for > example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I’d love us to have a proper go at FA Cup next season. It’s annoying that the way the draw went this season we could have got to the semi-final without having to play anyone higher than us in the league. Though obviously with the restrictions it wouldn’t have been the greatest season to get to Wembley. Maybe next year. -- Original Message -- On Tuesday, 11 May, 21 At 12:13, Richard Naef wrote: I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early rounds. -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 To: e...@morrish.org Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in those 360 minutes. The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be aware of this and, hopefully address next season. Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the 'rigours of success' Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN StigOfTheMusingDump Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I would LOVE IT if we snapped up Adama Traore. He is an amazing player already but I think in a Bielsa team he could be sensational. And it looks like he wants out of Wolves. On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:45 PM John Lee via Leedslist wrote: > I’m not bothered about European qualification at all this year - get > living with Covid established and have a crack at it in 2022. I hope we > take max points from our last 3 games though, just to set a benchmark for > next season. > > I don’t see us buying more than 3 players for the first team squad, unless > we have some unexpected departures. The left back position is tricky - and > how has Orta and the team been able to scout players? Hopefully coverage of > Leeds in Argentina, and across the world, may flush out the odd Bielsa > disciple? Of the relegated teams, I think Pereira from West Brom would give > us something extra, but there’ll be a bidding war for him. Lookman at > Fulham is a good prospect too. > > The creator-supreme role, with the ability to run 12km per game and sprint > like Carl Lewis, is even trickier. That said, I’d never heard of Rapha & > Koch until we bought them, so hopefully there is a £20million nugget out > there? > > > > > > > > On 11 May 2021, at 12:13, Richard Naef > wrote: > > > > I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next > season, it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the > early rounds. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk > > Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 > > To: e...@morrish.org > > Cc: Leeds List > > Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there > > > > To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) > is simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no > goals in those 360 minutes. > > > > The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is > very much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and > walk it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we > clearly struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm > sure, be aware of this and, hopefully address next season. > > > > Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the > defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us > 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! > > > > Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I > think we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit > too soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation > for the 'rigours of success' > > > > Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN > > > > StigOfTheMusingDump > > > >> > >>> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from > >>> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I > >>> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit > >>> > >> > >> I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able > >> to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. > >> Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski > >> giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually > >> been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for > >> example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. > >> > > ___ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > ___ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I’m not bothered about European qualification at all this year - get living with Covid established and have a crack at it in 2022. I hope we take max points from our last 3 games though, just to set a benchmark for next season. I don’t see us buying more than 3 players for the first team squad, unless we have some unexpected departures. The left back position is tricky - and how has Orta and the team been able to scout players? Hopefully coverage of Leeds in Argentina, and across the world, may flush out the odd Bielsa disciple? Of the relegated teams, I think Pereira from West Brom would give us something extra, but there’ll be a bidding war for him. Lookman at Fulham is a good prospect too. The creator-supreme role, with the ability to run 12km per game and sprint like Carl Lewis, is even trickier. That said, I’d never heard of Rapha & Koch until we bought them, so hopefully there is a £20million nugget out there? > On 11 May 2021, at 12:13, Richard Naef > wrote: > > I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, > it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early > rounds. > > -Original Message- > From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk > Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 > To: e...@morrish.org > Cc: Leeds List > Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there > > To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is > simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in > those 360 minutes. > > The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very > much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it > into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly > struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be > aware of this and, hopefully address next season. > > Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the > defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us > 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! > > Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think > we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, > without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the > 'rigours of success' > > Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN > > StigOfTheMusingDump > >> >>> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from >>> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I >>> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit >>> >> >> I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able >> to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. >> Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski >> giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually >> been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for >> example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. >> > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I believe it is 2.7 million per place. On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 07:28:51 AM EDT, Steve Gillen wrote: Not this season... Due to Covid the FA have halved the prize money to £1.8 million for the winners. > On 11 May 2021, at 12:25, Andy Brown wrote: > > I doubt that will happen. This seasons winners will take £3.4M in prize > money. I can’t remember the number mentioned for a league place but it’s not > so different. > > The only way the FA Cup is going to have 1980’s levels of importance is by > giving the winner a champions league slot. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2021, at 12:13, Richard Naef >> wrote: >> >> I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, >> it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early >> rounds. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk >> Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 >> To: e...@morrish.org >> Cc: Leeds List >> Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there >> >> To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is >> simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in >> those 360 minutes. >> >> The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very >> much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk >> it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly >> struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be >> aware of this and, hopefully address next season. >> >> Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the >> defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us >> 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! >> >> Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think >> we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too >> soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the >> 'rigours of success' >> >> Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN >> >> StigOfTheMusingDump >> >>> >>>> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from >>>> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I >>>> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit >>>> >>> >>> I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able >>> to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. >>> Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski >>> giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually >>> been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for >>> example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. >>> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
Not this season... Due to Covid the FA have halved the prize money to £1.8 million for the winners. > On 11 May 2021, at 12:25, Andy Brown wrote: > > I doubt that will happen. This seasons winners will take £3.4M in prize > money. I can’t remember the number mentioned for a league place but it’s not > so different. > > The only way the FA Cup is going to have 1980’s levels of importance is by > giving the winner a champions league slot. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2021, at 12:13, Richard Naef >> wrote: >> >> I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, >> it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early >> rounds. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk >> Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 >> To: e...@morrish.org >> Cc: Leeds List >> Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there >> >> To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is >> simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in >> those 360 minutes. >> >> The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very >> much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk >> it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly >> struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be >> aware of this and, hopefully address next season. >> >> Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the >> defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us >> 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! >> >> Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think >> we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too >> soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the >> 'rigours of success' >> >> Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN >> >> StigOfTheMusingDump >> >>> >>>> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from >>>> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I >>>> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit >>>> >>> >>> I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able >>> to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. >>> Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski >>> giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually >>> been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for >>> example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. >>> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I doubt that will happen. This seasons winners will take £3.4M in prize money. I can’t remember the number mentioned for a league place but it’s not so different. The only way the FA Cup is going to have 1980’s levels of importance is by giving the winner a champions league slot. Sent from my iPhone > On 11 May 2021, at 12:13, Richard Naef > wrote: > > I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, > it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early > rounds. > > -Original Message- > From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk > Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 > To: e...@morrish.org > Cc: Leeds List > Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there > > To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is > simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in > those 360 minutes. > > The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very > much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it > into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly > struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be > aware of this and, hopefully address next season. > > Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the > defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us > 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! > > Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think > we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, > without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the > 'rigours of success' > > Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN > > StigOfTheMusingDump > >> >>> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from >>> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I >>> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit >>> >> >> I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able >> to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. >> Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski >> giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually >> been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for >> example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. >> > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early rounds. -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56 To: e...@morrish.org Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in those 360 minutes. The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be aware of this and, hopefully address next season. Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the 'rigours of success' Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN StigOfTheMusingDump > >> Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from >> players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I >> mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit >> > > I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able > to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. > Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski > giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually > been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for > example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 09:56, wrote: > Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I > think we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a > bit too soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in > preparation for the 'rigours of success' > I agree; missing out on Europe might be a blessing in disguise, just as not getting promoted the season before last was. *How* much better were we last season than the one before? And would we have been *this* good in the Premier League without that extra season of the team coalescing? I can't see Ayling/Janson/Cooper/Alioski/Phillips/Klich/Harrison/Hernandez/Bamford taking the fight to Liverpool like we did on day one if they'd have been promoted earlier. Coming up with the confidence of Champions, winning the league by ten points instead of the playoffs, overcoming the poor patches to triumph... that's all invaluable experience, and made this team better. I think European qualification will be needed at the end of next season if we want to keep Raphinha, Meslier, Koch and Llorente, though. (Phillips I think will stay as long as he's getting picked for England.) Ed. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in those 360 minutes. The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be aware of this and, hopefully address next season. Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us 5th, 1 point behind Leicester! Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the 'rigours of success' Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN StigOfTheMusingDump Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
And I didn’t say you did I was responding to Nick A comparing me to Trump (and himself to a 60 yr old American woman) LOL. From: Richard Walker Sent: 10 May 2021 15:42 To: Nicholas Armit ; Robert Heath ; Leeds List ; Richard Naef Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there and I never said you didn't. I was talking more about the Twitter masses than the list On Monday, 10 May 2021, 14:08:09 BST, Richard Naef mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> wrote: I never said you can’t question it - and never have or will and it’s fun down the pub/online having these discussions, as is pointing out to the negative ninnies the gulf in knowledge. . From: Nicholas Armit mailto:arm...@yahoo.com>> Sent: 10 May 2021 13:57 To: Robert Heath mailto:heathpalai...@gmail.com>>; Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>; Richard Naef mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Their reasons for thinking they know better were all of the performances in the Brighton game. Fair enough to call those out and to be slightly concerned when the team was set up for Tottenham. In the end Bielsa and the players showed why he is such a great manager. However, never to question all sounds a bit Trump and the Republican Party to me...(maybe I am the List's Liz Cheney... :-) ) Nick On Monday, May 10, 2021, 07:33:36 AM EDT, Richard Naef mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk><mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>> wrote: Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org><mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>>> On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org><mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>> Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org><mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org><mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
and I never said you didn't. I was talking more about the Twitter masses than the list On Monday, 10 May 2021, 14:08:09 BST, Richard Naef wrote: I never said you can’t question it - and never have or will and it’s fun down the pub/online having these discussions, as is pointing out to the negative ninnies the gulf in knowledge. . From: Nicholas Armit Sent: 10 May 2021 13:57 To: Robert Heath ; Leeds List ; Richard Naef Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Their reasons for thinking they know better were all of the performances in the Brighton game. Fair enough to call those out and to be slightly concerned when the team was set up for Tottenham. In the end Bielsa and the players showed why he is such a great manager. However, never to question all sounds a bit Trump and the Republican Party to me...(maybe I am the List's Liz Cheney... :-) ) Nick On Monday, May 10, 2021, 07:33:36 AM EDT, Richard Naef mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> wrote: Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
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On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 14:22, Nicholas Armit wrote: > Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from > players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I mean.) > Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit > I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack. Michael Brown, on the other hand, was a useless fucking cunt. Ed. *Even that has to be balanced against just how much he's improved over the last two months at left-back. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
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Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit Nick On Monday, May 10, 2021, 09:08:14 AM EDT, Ed Morrish wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 13:57, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist wrote: Their reasons for thinking they know better were all of the performances in the Brighton game. Fair enough to call those out and to be slightly concerned when the team was set up for Tottenham. In the end Bielsa and the players showed why he is such a great manager. However, never to question all sounds a bit Trump and the Republican Party to me...(maybe I am the List's Liz Cheney... :-) ) The reason I find the doom-mongering so laughable is that the evidence against it has literally been there for three seasons now. We know the system he likes, we know the players he likes, he doesn't chop and change (eg keeping Costa in for two games longer than we thought he merited before injury forced him out), and it's up to the players to make the system work. When it does, it's great, when it doesn't we get thumped. So that's what you can criticise; to go 'Player X is shit" on the basis of a bad performance ignores the fact that Bielsa has moulded a team, not eleven individuals. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
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On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 13:57, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist < leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > Their reasons for thinking they know better were all of the performances > in the Brighton game. Fair enough to call those out and to be slightly > concerned when the team was set up for Tottenham. In the end Bielsa and the > players showed why he is such a great manager. However, never to question > all sounds a bit Trump and the Republican Party to me...(maybe I am the > List's Liz Cheney... :-) ) > The reason I find the doom-mongering so laughable is that the evidence against it has literally been there for three seasons now. We know the system he likes, we know the players he likes, he doesn't chop and change (eg keeping Costa in for two games longer than we thought he merited before injury forced him out), and it's up to the players to make the system work. When it does, it's great, when it doesn't we get thumped. So *that's* what you can criticise; to go 'Player X is shit" on the basis of a bad performance ignores the fact that Bielsa has moulded a team, not eleven individuals. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
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I never said you can’t question it - and never have or will and it’s fun down the pub/online having these discussions, as is pointing out to the negative ninnies the gulf in knowledge. . From: Nicholas Armit Sent: 10 May 2021 13:57 To: Robert Heath ; Leeds List ; Richard Naef Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Their reasons for thinking they know better were all of the performances in the Brighton game. Fair enough to call those out and to be slightly concerned when the team was set up for Tottenham. In the end Bielsa and the players showed why he is such a great manager. However, never to question all sounds a bit Trump and the Republican Party to me...(maybe I am the List's Liz Cheney... :-) ) Nick On Monday, May 10, 2021, 07:33:36 AM EDT, Richard Naef mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> wrote: Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
Their reasons for thinking they know better were all of the performances in the Brighton game. Fair enough to call those out and to be slightly concerned when the team was set up for Tottenham. In the end Bielsa and the players showed why he is such a great manager. However, never to question all sounds a bit Trump and the Republican Party to me...(maybe I am the List's Liz Cheney... :-) ) Nick On Monday, May 10, 2021, 07:33:36 AM EDT, Richard Naef wrote: Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
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No matter how you look at it, finding the opponent manager spending most of the time ahead of the microphone doing the VAR-excuse, was just plain stupid. Spurs where played off the park, end of story. We are Leeds - MOT! On 10. May 2021, at 14:04, Richard Walker via Leedslist wrote: You could argue that Bielsa got it spectacularly wrong against Brighton and spectacularly right against Spurs. Or you could argue that Brighton were actually a better opposition on the day (spurs were poor). You could also argue that Koch has improved in the Philips role and looks the part and you could argue that having Raphina to come on as a sub sealed the Spurs win and that option wasn't available against Brighton and many other combinations of arguments. Which ever way you perceive it, is entirely your point of view but one things for sure, that's what makes football - different opinions and the fans who cannot tolerate any criticism of players and the manager just don't understand the game. On Monday, 10 May 2021, 12:33:33 BST, Richard Naef wrote: Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
You could argue that Bielsa got it spectacularly wrong against Brighton and spectacularly right against Spurs. Or you could argue that Brighton were actually a better opposition on the day (spurs were poor). You could also argue that Koch has improved in the Philips role and looks the part and you could argue that having Raphina to come on as a sub sealed the Spurs win and that option wasn't available against Brighton and many other combinations of arguments. Which ever way you perceive it, is entirely your point of view but one things for sure, that's what makes football - different opinions and the fans who cannot tolerate any criticism of players and the manager just don't understand the game. On Monday, 10 May 2021, 12:33:33 BST, Richard Naef wrote: Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
Leeds Twitter went into meltdown when the team was announced, the vast majority saying it was madness and that Bielsa was too stubborn, never learned etc. All the oft repeated bollocks, like the famous Bielsa Team meltdown comment that outraged much the same people when Karen Carney made it. The thing is that MB isn't perfect, but he is thorough and everything he does is done for a finely detailed and researched reasons, mostly beyond our ken or experience. I'd guess he chose the same team, because of the options he had, the things he's seen in training, the research he had done on Tottingham, his 50 years of experience. In the case he got it 100% right. On other occasions he might not, but it won't be down to stubbornness. This doesn't mean I don’t think every Leeds fan has the right to express contrary opinions, but when they do, its fair to ask, what are their reasons for thinking they know better. Richard -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Robert Heath Sent: 09 May 2021 08:00 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there Not hearing much from all those moaners who were so furious with the players last week. My scores for the Totteringham match: Meslier 8 Ayling 7 Llorente 9 Strujk 9 Alioski 8! Koch 8.5 Klich (back on form at last) 7.5 Roberts 7 Harrison 9 Dallas 9 Bamford 8 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
