from:"Rick Hutley"

Re: bone turning

2024-05-05 Thread Rick Hutley

This was very informative - and inspiring. Thanks Curt!RickOn May 5, 2024, at 06:06, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Curt asked me to post this to the group enjoyhttps://youtu.be/Fn-UvXcvsv0 Bill



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Outstanding!On Mar 30, 2024, at 05:26, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Holy crap simply beautiful amazing work Roger Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 2:22 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Roger's new work of Art Hello Everyone. Roger (Ccm Ccm) made these table, He told me that he could not get the pix. size down enough to share with the Group. I think this is a breath taking work of Art. and I feel everyone in the group. should see it. Good job Roger! C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1979365805.2024681.1711768922492%40mail.yahoo.com.

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Re: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

2024-03-08 Thread Rick Hutley

A little more detail on my router setup….As I say below, I bought the Incra LS Positioner / Wonderfence system - this allows me to, very accurately set the back & forth depth of the fence and quickly/easily/accurately repeat those settings.I then bought the MLCS Powerlifting Pro digitally controlled router lift along with a Bora 3.5 Hp variable speed motor. This uses Bluetooth to connect to my Android tablet. This setup allows me to very accurately to set and repeat the height of the router bit. For example, to raise the router so I can insert/remove the router bit. Then set the zero height level, and finally, to set a series of heights for routing.RickOn Mar 7, 2024, at 12:34, Rick Hutley wrote:I have the Incra LS Positioner/ Wonderfence router table system and I added a computer controlled power lift. It’s a very sophisticated system and highly accurate, so easy to repeat cuts etc. However, there’s a steep learning curve and it takes quite a bit of practice to get used the way it works - but that’s true of most tools. I am very impressed with the Incra system.RickOn Mar 7, 2024, at 12:00, Tim Ziegler wrote:Good morning, In regard to both of these jigs I was truly amazed at what the jigs could do too given the demonstratorhad hours and hours of practice and sure made it sould and look very easy. I have not purchased either of these jigs but again was alway impressed. I have watched market place for used ones but am not really into that sorta of jig in the used form but it the right opportunity came along maybe. I have a few of the Incra jigs like the "I Box", the Hinge making jig and most recent like 2 years ago I boughttheir Router lift. Very well made but I think Jessem actually makes them for Incra. So no experience with Jointech, just some drooling in the years past. And some experience with Incra but not their dovetailing equipment. I have the large 24 inch Omni Jig for that. Not much else on the subject Mac and David. Sorry Both companies seemed equal though?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:25 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:For: David Mann,
(and other who have opinions regarding the former Jointech Jigs/accessories vs the Incra Jigs/accessories)
Since The Group board has been somewhat quiet, I figured I'd throw this one out again for discussion - since most all of have either a table saw, a router table, or both. I thought it would make for interesting sharing of thoughts and experiences. It is a REAL shame that JoinTech went out of business - and that put a damper on competition as well as ingenuity/inventiveness.
Your thoughts, experiences, etc.?
Mac

-Forwarded Message-From: M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net>Sent: May 3, 2022 3:11 PMTo: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

Hi David,
When talking about an Incra Fence and Joinery Package, I saw where you said: "a real upgrade from the old jointech setup I had".
I remember watching both Jointech and Incra folks demonstrating their products at The Woodworking Shows.
They both seemed "better than sliced bread" - equally yoked.
My question: What is significantly better about the Incra - vs the Jointech? (Other than fact that Jointech went belly up!)
(There may be others on here that can chime in with their experiences - so please do if that applies.)
Thanks for your inputs here - hopefully "educational" for all of us.
Mac

-Original Message-From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Sent: May 3, 2022 8:17 AMTo: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: New post
Thanks Tim. I can thank Denison for the old original design paper from legacy he shared with me, and his nephew who made a copy of the templates for me. Going for that country/farm table look that’s popular in my area of Texas. That breakfast bar took 20 days start to finish, but some days I only worked 2-3 hours. Never more than 6. That also included a couple days clean up sawmill lumber. Probably 65-70 would be a good guess. I had a bad case of Covid and literally didn’t do anything for 6 months, and am easing back into it. I did the dovetail drawers with a new incra fence and joinery package. Took 9 months to deliver, then sat in the boxes for another 9. Very happy with it and a real upgrade from the old jointech setup I had. I still get and see everybody’s posts here. For some reason my phone won’t let me start a new thread, so thanks for the link Tim, I’ll try that next time.
David
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On May 3, 2022, at 6:08 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow David,
Beautiful craftsmanship. Love those mouldings you created and the dovetail drawers.
You can be very pro

Re: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

2024-03-07 Thread Rick Hutley

I have the Incra LS Positioner/ Wonderfence router table system and I added a computer controlled power lift. It’s a very sophisticated system and highly accurate, so easy to repeat cuts etc. However, there’s a steep learning curve and it takes quite a bit of practice to get used the way it works - but that’s true of most tools. I am very impressed with the Incra system.RickOn Mar 7, 2024, at 12:00, Tim Ziegler wrote:Good morning, In regard to both of these jigs I was truly amazed at what the jigs could do too given the demonstratorhad hours and hours of practice and sure made it sould and look very easy. I have not purchased either of these jigs but again was alway impressed. I have watched market place for used ones but am not really into that sorta of jig in the used form but it the right opportunity came along maybe. I have a few of the Incra jigs like the "I Box", the Hinge making jig and most recent like 2 years ago I boughttheir Router lift. Very well made but I think Jessem actually makes them for Incra. So no experience with Jointech, just some drooling in the years past. And some experience with Incra but not their dovetailing equipment. I have the large 24 inch Omni Jig for that. Not much else on the subject Mac and David. Sorry Both companies seemed equal though?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:25 PM M.W.Foscue wrote:For: David Mann,
(and other who have opinions regarding the former Jointech Jigs/accessories vs the Incra Jigs/accessories)
Since The Group board has been somewhat quiet, I figured I'd throw this one out again for discussion - since most all of have either a table saw, a router table, or both. I thought it would make for interesting sharing of thoughts and experiences. It is a REAL shame that JoinTech went out of business - and that put a damper on competition as well as ingenuity/inventiveness.
Your thoughts, experiences, etc.?
Mac

-Forwarded Message-From: M.W.Foscue Sent: May 3, 2022 3:11 PMTo: Subject: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

-Original Message-From: Sent: May 3, 2022 8:17 AMTo: Subject: Re: New post
Thanks Tim. I can thank Denison for the old original design paper from legacy he shared with me, and his nephew who made a copy of the templates for me. Going for that country/farm table look that’s popular in my area of Texas. That breakfast bar took 20 days start to finish, but some days I only worked 2-3 hours. Never more than 6. That also included a couple days clean up sawmill lumber. Probably 65-70 would be a good guess. I had a bad case of Covid and literally didn’t do anything for 6 months, and am easing back into it. I did the dovetail drawers with a new incra fence and joinery package. Took 9 months to deliver, then sat in the boxes for another 9. Very happy with it and a real upgrade from the old jointech setup I had. I still get and see everybody’s posts here. For some reason my phone won’t let me start a new thread, so thanks for the link Tim, I’ll try that next time.
David
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On May 3, 2022, at 6:08 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Wow David,
Beautiful craftsmanship. Love those mouldings you created and the dovetail drawers.
You can be very proud of that piece.
Thanks for posting that too. How many hours do you think you have in that build?

Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 11:06 PM 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

No problem, I’ve been off work for a while, didn’t do anything for about 6 months and just getting back into the swing of things. Installed a kitchen island/bar last week, used the legacy for the corners (1 1/2” rope twist, 2 start). You helped me get my Morse taper unstuck a while back, didn’t think it would happen….. remember that?
Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2022, at 10:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

Sorry David

Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

2024-03-02 Thread Rick Hutley

Wow - I now have an even greater appreciation for the results you produce On Mar 2, 2024, at 00:32, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hey Guys!Bill I have a way to make this chatter wave 100% every time. but it involves another jig to make it work. What I did the first time is supper Kool, but Its not easy to get the results prefect every time. I called this cut a chatter cut, mainly due to that is exactly what is happening, the route bit chatters/bounces over the wood as it is cutting.There are a number of variables that are needed to make the Chatter cut work on the Legacy at this time it is not an exact science . (those variables are, speed of cut/RPM of the bit, depth of cut from the side/Y axis , and  Speed of the motor drive/carriage movement. all have to be the same, to get the good results. If one is off the cut will not be consistent.) C.A.G.





On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 06:23:14 PM EST,   wrote:



Well however you did it I think it needs more research I think it’s a very interesting look   Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 1:43 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Feb 5 bone turnings  Hello Bill  The chatter wave was cut form the side of the work piece, I used the clime cutting method, (the router bit is spinning like a car tire on wet pavement)  Sadly I do not remember the pitch or speed I used at this time.What I do remember is the chatter happened on the first cut, I liked the look, so I repeated all the cut the exact way to repeat this process. Here are some more Wave' y cuts that I have made.  C.A.G.  On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 03:21:38 AM EST,  wrote:     Nice chatter wave curt what pitch did you set the mill at? And what wave width did you set the attachment at? also how many starts? and last what router bit did you use to side cut that wave? And what was the blank size? Lots of questions I know lol sorry Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 4:25 PMTo: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Feb 5 bone turnings Hello Everyone. (just got home form work.)Thank you all for the kind words. Using and Making the Wave attachment is not all that hard to do. I too enjoy the look of the waves, in wood as well as in my bone turnings.If anyone would like to know more, We can open a posting on the process of makingone. With Tim K. Bill, and my self,(who have all made our own versions.) as well as a few others in the group who own the wave attachment, I'm sure anyone in the group could make thereown. The concept of how they work, as well as the simple construction it takes to make a attachment. Is pretty easy. Just let me know what you all think?Here are a few photo's of both, works and attachment.C.A.G.On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 01:48:19 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:   Beautiful Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Thursday, February 29, 2024, 8:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Good morning everyoneTim here is the photos you asked for.  I hope these photo work for you?for some reason taking photo's of these bone handles, just don't quite look the same as they do by eye.  The cut is .250 of an inch deep (appx. the same depth as a piece of paper) the wave off-set is 1/8" with a 3" pitch.I hope this helps? Have a good day. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 06:35:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Hey Curt, Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles. Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachmenton?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer. Great work as always. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)Here are some of my latest turnings. I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy. Any question or comments are, as always welcome.I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achievemy personal best. ;-) C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-15 Thread Rick Hutley

These look very substantial and long-lasting Curt. I wonder if it would be 
worthwhile cutting them out of ¼” acrylic sheet on a laser engraver. It if is, 
it would be a fast and easy way to duplicate them when they wear out or someone 
else needs one (and a lot lighter, and hence cheaper, to post).

Also, anyone with any graphics skills (eg. Using Illustrator) could create 
their own template designs – or perhaps take a contour off of an existing piece 
they are trying to replace/replicate (maybe using one of those contour 
measuring things from Homedepot etc.)

Rick

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Date: Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:32 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
Hello and Good morning again everyone.
I stated the Pen State was the only company that still makes templates.
This is true, but I also wanted everyone to know there templates are a bit 
different then the
ones that I make.  here are some photo's of there templates modified to work 
with my set-up.
As you can see there templates are much smaller then what I make, In these 
photos, I tac wielded there
templates onto a piece of metal So I can hold these templates with my 
set-up/tool holders. There templates
are nice, but they may need some modifications if you want to use them.(same 
but different.)  ;-)
NOTE: the white template in the mid, of the second photo is one that I made/ 
point of reference.

C.A.G.

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 09:21:33 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:


Good morning Tim.

"Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  . 
(Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p

Have a great day.

C.A.G.

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:


Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making 
templates. Many by hand, but in the end
most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
 wrote:
Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)

I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
others might also like to hear more on this topic.
First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the past 
I
made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal templates 
that I
have both bought and made.
The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only company 
that I
know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there were 
more.
I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry, 
Templates were the poor
man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not just 
wood turning.)

I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine details 
in my templates, only
the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my Legacy 
and or turned by hand,
this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the finer  
look of a production
quality, that many people today are looking for.

When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This centerline 
is where I not only start to draw
from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so 
everything works together. this is why
every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center line of 
the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this center line 
is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
all measurements are taken form this point.
These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that I 
like to make today. I am limited
to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2" tall 
(remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under 1/2" is 
the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is larger 
then what I want to make the template too will also have to be modified, if I 
choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many different templates. At 
this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my shop. (I only have one 
photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks that hold some of my 
templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and plastic templates that I 
made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these templates range form stair case 
parts, finals, and other wood turning design patterns that I wanted to make 
over the years.
I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and spindles 
form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as

Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Rick Hutley

A warm welcome to all of our new members. While I am guilty of only sporadic postings myself, I have found this group - and its members - both knowledgeable and very friendly. I look forward to keeping this group active .. and fun!RickSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:34, Jeff Richmond wrote:Ditto on that.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Great advice Curt.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Everyone.Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group. Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. To those "Lurkers" out there. With out commentary our group can not function as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our group will not know, either. If for some reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail, curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can all learn from the experience. C.A.G.

Re: Wanted to Wish everyone the very best.

2023-12-24 Thread Rick Hutley

Happy Christmas / Hanukkah / etc and a fun and productive new year to all.RickOn Dec 24, 2023, at 08:44, Ed Trevillian wrote:Merry Christmas to you all ! My kind of people !Ed TrevillianOn Sun, Dec 24, 2023, 1:26 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:HI everyone.Tomorrow is Christmas, And in another week it will be a hole New Year. (2024)I plan to be with my family celebrating our holiday traditions.I would like to thank everyone in the LOM users Group . We have had some very good topics and ideas discussed within the group this year, (I know that I have learned quite a bit through our conversations.)I have some big plans/hopes, for projects and things that I would like to make with the use of the Legacy (LOM) . I am looking forward to talking to you all more about them, in the near future.But for now. I would like to Wish you all a very Merry Christmas, and a Joyous new year.C.A.G.

Re: laser pointer

2023-11-26 Thread Rick Hutley

Not sure if this one would suit your needs Bill:  OLIGHT O'Pen ProOn Amazon. Expensive for a laser pen ($55 US) but it is rechargeable and does have an on/off switchRickOn Nov 26, 2023, at 21:56, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Thanks curt but nothing there suitable  Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023 3:51 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: laser pointer Bill Amazon has a number of different pen stile laser pointers.https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Demonstrator-Construction-Demonstration-Instruction/dp/B0B94DVX3D/ref=sr_1_42?keywords=pen+laser+pointer=1701060470=8-42  Here is one that look like will fit the bill. (excuse the pun.) ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:39:32 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au  wrote:   I need some help guys I’m looking for a laser pointer to put on one of my tools it needs to be about the dia Of a pen, runs on one AAA battery that you put inside it and you push a button once to turn it on then push once again to turn  it off Do you think I can find one that meets this criteria all the ones here you have to hold the button to keep it working which is no goodWhen you need 2 hands to work the machine or it runs on button batteries or it has internal recharging or it is so powerful it would burn A hole in the moon and is the size of a fly spray can. Lol So please if anyone can help me find one please show me where I can buy it from Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003b01da20eb%24b1de7300%24159b5900%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/635930568.4428812.1701060653589%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: laser pointer

2023-11-26 Thread Rick Hutley

The color of the laser will also be important Bill. A green laser scintillates - I.e. the beam is visible (I use this for astronomy). A red laser beam is not visible - only the red dot will be visible on the object it touches (e.g a white board)RickOn Nov 26, 2023, at 21:39, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I need some help guys I’m looking for a laser pointer to put on one of my tools it needs to be about the dia Of a pen, runs on one AAA battery that you put inside it and you push a button once to turn it on then push once again to turn it off Do you think I can find one that meets this criteria all the ones here you have to hold the button to keep it working which is no goodWhen you need 2 hands to work the machine or it runs on button batteries or it has internal recharging or it is so powerful it would burn A hole in the moon and is the size of a fly spray can. Lol So please if anyone can help me find one please show me where I can buy it from Bill

Re: Eureka!

2023-09-16 Thread Rick Hutley

Dan - congratulations!I have been following this conversation quietly in the background (along with the gear calculations conversation). To be honest, even though I too have a scroll saw, I am not skilled enough / practiced enough on the Legacy to be up to building my own. However, I was intrigued by your work using acrylic gears.I wanted to let the group know that I have a laser engraver that will easily cut acrylic - and very, very precisely. If anyone has a graphics file or .pdf of the gear(s) you need, I would be happy to cut them out for you. The beauty is, once we have a good graphics file I could cut new gears in minutes. RickOn Sep 15, 2023, at 15:42, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:(He runs down the road naked shouting "Eureka! Eureka!"TMI, I know.  But I was successful in getting these plastic gears to run true enough to work on a slightly modified banjo system.  I had to extend the slot on the driver side of the main banjo and cut the sides back on that channel so it would slide over the driver shaft, not stop against it.  Very minor changes, which ultimately expand the banjo to its absolute maximum range.  The right side of the banjo is also at it's maximum.  It looks to be the correct ratio, too.  I haven't made any cuts yet, so the proof is still in the pudding.  I took a video so you could see it actually in motion.  The scraping sound is the plastic gear rubbing against the idler screws, which I had to flatten.<45-66DuplexGear.JPG>DanK



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Re: Most recent pen.

2023-07-03 Thread Rick Hutley

It’s all woodwork as far as I’m concerned Bill. I too use a scroll saw - and a wood turning lathe, in addition to my Legacy. Thanks for sharing - very inspirational RickOn Jul 3, 2023, at 02:17, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Oh did I send that to the group I put the wrong address on itIts not legacy sorry about that scrolling is my other hobby Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rick HutleySent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:46 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Most recent pen. These are beautiful - that’s a heck of a lot of work Bill! RickOn Jul 3, 2023, at 01:12, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Yes I did that with my scroll saw projects made time, I’m still working on them now Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/004601d9ad75%243f48e120%24bddaa360%24%40mmnet.com.au.<3.JPG><2.JPG><1.JPG>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/481846F5-65B5-4629-9165-B3BAA3836E2E%40gmail.com.



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Re: Most recent pen.

2023-07-03 Thread Rick Hutley

These are beautiful - that’s a heck of a lot of work Bill!RickOn Jul 3, 2023, at 01:12, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Yes I did that with my scroll saw projects made time, I’m still working on them now Bill 



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Re: wood lathe

2023-06-23 Thread Rick Hutley

I would add to Michael’s advice: get a digital lathe. The ability to control the speed from a few revolutions (e.g. for sanding) to full speed without having to stop and manually change bands makes turning so much easier and more enjoyable.RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 10:00, Tim Ziegler  wrote:That's the exact lathe I got. PM4224B Great lathe and yes its a tank, But absolutely everything you'd ever want and need in a lathe. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:32 AM Owner <krat...@roadrunner.com> wrote:Have been turning for 60 years there are more lathes manufactures and models out there than you can count, my advice is to buy the biggest and heaviest  one you can’t afford or you’ll regret it.For me my go to lathe is a Powermatic 4224B could’d be happier as there's nothing it can’t turn big or small it also has a built in vacuum chuck system and indexing. Mass is critical if your turning anything bigger than spindles. Some fellow club members have reported issues with Laguna electronics as has the local Woodcraft that sells them.Have a Jet 1220 VS with stand I’m will to sell for a reasonable price with many accessories I used to take on the road for demos but I no longer do that.
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Re: wood lathe

2023-06-23 Thread Rick Hutley

This also rates Laguna in the top picks: https://www.lathematters.com/best-wood-lathe/RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 09:05, Rick Hutley wrote:I’ve done wood lathe turning for a number of years - not on a Laguna I’m afraid. However, I can tell you that Laguna have a very good reputation. You might also look at the Powermatic lathes.RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 07:07, Tim Ziegler wrote:I have a call turning friend that just bought a Laguna for a replacement lathe. He turns everyday and said it runs super smooth and really likes it. Not sure what model he has but could find out. I'm a Power Matic guy so can only attest to his opinion, and if he likes a tool its got to be pretty good. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:19 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Has anybody had any experience with a laguna wood lathe I am looking at different brands for a friend and laguna keeps coming up as a very good one looking for opinions Bill

Re: wood lathe

2023-06-23 Thread Rick Hutley

I’ve done wood lathe turning for a number of years - not on a Laguna I’m afraid. However, I can tell you that Laguna have a very good reputation. You might also look at the Powermatic lathes.RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 07:07, Tim Ziegler wrote:I have a call turning friend that just bought a Laguna for a replacement lathe. He turns everyday and said it runs super smooth and really likes it. Not sure what model he has but could find out. I'm a Power Matic guy so can only attest to his opinion, and if he likes a tool its got to be pretty good. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:19 AM wrote:Has anybody had any experience with a laguna wood lathe I am looking at different brands for a friend and laguna keeps coming up as a very good one looking for opinions Bill

Re: Ratcheting index system

2023-06-11 Thread Rick Hutley

That’s very impressive Curt. I’ll have to think on this one!

Rick

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Date: Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:21 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Ratcheting index system
Hello Everyone.

I Know most of you will not think much of this ,Since it is not a Legacy made 
tool.
But I for one am Extinctic about this new Toy that I've made for my Ornamental 
Mill.

This jig is for making designs that are more OT looking. I can use a number of 
different rosettes (round templates) to make a number of different patterns.  
This is just a newer mod to what I used in this video 2 years ago.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5_TLeQQXeY

Now the indexing part.
In the past I removed a screw and counted holes in the indexing plate to get my 
indexing. This jig, Makes the counting of hole obsolete (for the most part.)  
by setting the bolts on the slide, I can make the indexing much quicker and 
more accurate then what I could do with counting holes.
I still need to count the holes and use the pin when setting up this jig, but 
once set up, the pin will be used for a lock while cutting, and by using the 
bolt/limit I can control the indexing of the part by using the ratchet.

If all goes well, this jig, should help me do some pretty neat things in the 
future. ;-)

Talk to you all more latter.
Have a good day.

C.A.G.
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Re: Hello and Welcome to the Group.

2023-04-26 Thread Rick Hutley

It’s a great group Tim - some very knowledgeable and creative people. Always will to share. WelcomeRickOn Apr 26, 2023, at 13:00, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Welcome to the group Tim (my youngest son is named Tim) and good luck on the heart valve install.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2023, at 7:17 AM, Eric Gantner  wrote:Good Morning Tim P. ,When you are ready, I would like to come and visit.  I live off Big Bend and 301.  I have a 900 and a Wood Chuck but I have been so busy I have not been able to use it.  I am hands on type of learner, so maybe you can show me what you know.  God Speed today wishing you a speedy recovery.Eric G.  On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 12:05 AM Tim Porter  wrote:Thanks.  I look forward to being a contributor.  For a while I will be kind of quiet.  Getting a new heart valve installed tomorrow.  What fun!TimSent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Apr 25, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Curt George  wrote:
Hello again Tim.(I am forwarding this e-mail to the group. So they too can get to know you.)If you need, I have the taps to make/replace the split nuts, just in case your daughter has any problems making them for you.The Group has more then a few really good people in it.  If and when you run into any problems just ask and I know someone in the group will know how to fix the problem you may be running into.We need all kinds of people in our group. Not just the masters, We need people to ask question as well, many people will not step up and offer ideas, but will answer if a question is asked and they know the answer being asked. We also need the "Dreamers" (those people who are always looking for the "What IF's" And "How can I do that, type of person.Again Welcome to the group.I am looking forward to knowing you more.Have a good day.C.A.G.





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Hi CurtI look forward to being a part of this group.  I live in a 55+ community with a really nice woodworking shop. I have been a machinist for my career and just began woodworking a few months ago.  We have a Legacy model 900 in the shop and I have been learning to use it, so far a few sets of table legs.I have to mention that I owned (2nd generation) and large machine shop which is now being operated by my daughter.  She is going to have a small run of the half nuts made for me, as the ones in our machine are very worn.  This is definitely something I would be happy to offer to interested folks.Thanks TimSent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Apr 24, 2023, at 11:44 PM, Curt George  wrote:Welcome to the Group. I will approve your request right after I sign off with you in this Welcome aboard message.  The Legacy Ornamental Mills users group was made to help owners of the LOM to get the most out of their milling machines as possible.  "Why should I have to make all those mistakes myself" was the main question asked by many owners.  The answer to the big question here is to share information with others whom are like yourself.  For those who want to learn and become the best woodworkers possible, the Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM) is a very good machine, but there is a slight learning curve that need to be understood before you can master the machine. Its like me giving you a paint brush and asking you to paint me a master piece on canvas. just because you have all the parts needed does not make you a master! ;-)We have over 500 members today, most are willing to share a helping hand to others who are in need.  This is mainly an e-mail group. (Yes the web site works, but the system was set up to link our messages together through our E-mails, Pictures can be attached, and quicker reply's can be done through the e-mail.) Tim and I have a standing policy that there is no such thing as a dumb question, except perhaps the one not asked?  For those that are not comfortable asking questions to a group, you can e-mail Tim or me. curt.geo...@yahoo.com or Tim's,  artmarb...@comcast.net at any time and ask your questions in complete privacy. If we do not know the answers you ask, we can/will send them to the group under our names so know one will know where the question came form.Please feel free to search our archives. I know you will find a wealth  of information at your disposal.One more note, I ask everyone to make a short introduction to the group. I think of it as an ice breaker so everyone can get to know a little bit about you.  Something simple, name, types of woodworking you like to do, perhaps equipment you own? How long you have been wood working, stuff like that. I

Re: Drive motor on my Revo

2023-04-14 Thread Rick Hutley

YESOn Apr 14, 2023, at 08:31, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello and Good morning everyone. Just a question on this posting. Is everyone receiving these postings?After talking (private e-mail) It was suggested that perhaps many of the others in the group were not seeing everything.So I decided to use Tim's Revo motor posting to double check the settings. Could everyone, Please reply if you do. a simple YES would do.Thank you.C.A.G.On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well after waiting and putting things off, I finally put the drive motor and controls on to my Revo. Though I will be changing somethings at least nowi have it so I can use it with a drive. Not wild about chain drive but it works until I come up with something else. I still need mounting plates for the micro switches but sure opens up a lot of possibilities with a drive. I now have 4 of my machines with drives. and 2 manual machines. Comments or questions??? Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

Re: Eric 900

2023-02-14 Thread Rick Hutley

I have a 900 too (with a handle) and I use Tim’s approach as well.RickOn Feb 14, 2023, at 21:48, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Eric,It is slow but still cool you can do both. Many times I use my lathe to round them, sand,  then play on the LOM with all the decore. But over all it does a really good job. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:12 PM Eric Gantner  wrote: I turned on my 900 today, and tried to make round stock.  Coming from a lathe I found it slow, but I am not sure if I was doing it right.  I was moving my sled with the crank and hand turning the wood, because I do not have a handle yet.  Anyway I am still learning so that is always fun!  Sent from my iPadOn Feb 9, 2023, at 6:57 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:yup figured that our. Just had to go to the right pix. lol.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 10:04 PM  wrote:What they are is the name of each pic Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 9 February 2023 2:29 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 I don't see the names on them for him Bill? Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 8:26 PM  wrote:Ok here are your pics back with their names hope it helps if not just ask  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Thursday, 9 February 2023 12:06 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 Here pics of parts that came with the machine, one I know was posted not too long ago, the duplicator.  The others I am not to sure about, maybe 1  or 2 extra parts.  School me fellas!  Eric GantnerSent from my iPad On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Pix are worth a thousand words  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 5:40 PM Eric Gantner  wrote:Bill,  Thanks, I will also take pictures of the whole mill. Eric Gantner On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:34 PM  wrote:From what I can see which is not all of the mill everything looks ok, before amazon ask the group someone might have a spareSpindle crank handle they could sell youBill-Original Message-From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Thursday, 9 February 2023 9:38 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Eric 900Good Evening Gents,I turned on 900 for the time today, big learning curve.  Come to find out I am missing a spindle shaft handle.  Pretty sure I  can order a handle from Amazon and make the hole bigger.  Please check out my pictures and please let me know if some is setup  incorrectly.  Thanks Eric Gantner-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/162E8720-81BE-467A-8E82-E46DA69579CC%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001e01d93c15%24dec4cec0%249c4e6c40%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAFcbDswYSqpQFku_33YZnDLmuKvGq5XvfB61vqF7%3DyQcpzz59Q%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEqRx_8S4Rd0nwzMdzwV5YT2PhmzjDD%2BCA-Lg5w3nEL-w%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Productive Saturday in the shop

2023-02-11 Thread Rick Hutley

Slacking off a bit then, Mike Productive day indeedRickOn Feb 11, 2023, at 21:12, Mike Newman  wrote:Spent most of the day doing various projects in the shop on and with the LOM.  Started off with making a new carving mallet out of hard rock maple.  This was the first time I used the rails to produce a tapered shape which worked pretty well.  I have a tote full of these chunks that a local factory was throwing away so I'm always looking for things to make out of them.    After that I wanted to add chip skirts that would hang down on all 4 sides of the router sled to minimize throwing chips outside of the bed/bag.  I found a roll of heavy duty  clear vinyl material at my local salvage store that turned out to be exactly what I needed for this project.  Next I added a simple magnetic tool holder to the lower rail of my LOM to hold the various items I'm using regularly.  Then to finish out the day I put a length of old oak handrail on the LOM and rounded it off to make a new walking stick.  Here are a few pictures of some of the things.  <20230211_170713.jpg><20230211_143904.jpg><20230211_190054.jpg>



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Re:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick

2023-01-20 Thread Rick Hutley

Ah but yours are good Bill - very good. You describe (and show) every step, which is essential with something as complex as some of your Legacy creations. What frustrates me me about ‘typical’ YouTube videos are those that show the same, often simple, step over and over at normal speed. E.g. I don’t need to see someone take several minutes to insert 14+ screws into a board - one (or at a push, two) would suffice. Your Legacy pieces, by contrast, often involve intricate, non-repetitive actions and you, taking your time to show us exactly what/how you do things, at normal speed, is highly valuable.Don’t stop!!RickOn Jan 20, 2023, at 14:44, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Oh well like I always say I make legacy videos but I never said they are good videos lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Saturday, 21 January 2023 2:18 AMTo: LOM Group Subject: Re:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick Hey Bill we're not letting you off the hook that easy. You've way over 20 years experience on LOM's, we still need you.On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 7:36 AM  wrote:At last somebody that can make legacy videos better than me now I don’t have to make them  Bill   From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rick HutleySent: Friday, 20 January 2023 8:47 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick Subscribed - great videos. I love the speed of the videos, with voice description overlays. I get very frustrated by the ‘usual’ videos one finds, where they repeat every step at normal speed - after seeing someone cut one board, I don’t then need to see them repeat it for the other 3 sides of the box - well, not at normal speed. You do it in fast mode and describe at normal speed: all 4 sides demonstrated in the timeline of one side. Excellent  Rick On Jan 19, 2023, at 21:57, Tim Woodard  wrote:Thanks for sharing. my wife and I are Couple of bunkys on youtube please consider subscribing we do a new project every Thursday. check us out https://www.youtube.com/@CoupleofBunkies On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:49 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:Here you go guys eat it up. New LOM owner having fun.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell -- Forwarded message -From: YouTube Date: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:00 PMSubject:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstickTo: Tim Ziegler  Live on YouTube: Couple of Bunkys - Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick! PREMIERELegacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick Couple of Bunkys You were sent this email because you chose to receive updates from Couple of Bunkys. © 2023 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGJh047ar3siPsPqw3RYi80bQJZi7dOGrpCWOewc68t2Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- Timothy Lee WoodardE: twoodard...@gmail.comC: (757) 399-9778-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAC6wDbWnGAnSPMCQziXPGXTtb1Y0uutfAAuYJNF%2BXJti8jaJvw%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/32163815-A31C-44B5-AA76-50A237C9D7CF%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000301d92cd4%2421f47ca0%2465dd75e0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick

2023-01-20 Thread Rick Hutley

Ah - but your videos are super-informative as well Bill!On Jan 20, 2023, at 08:36, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:At last somebody that can make legacy videos better than me now I don’t have to make them  Bill   From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rick HutleySent: Friday, 20 January 2023 8:47 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick Subscribed - great videos. I love the speed of the videos, with voice description overlays. I get very frustrated by the ‘usual’ videos one finds, where they repeat every step at normal speed - after seeing someone cut one board, I don’t then need to see them repeat it for the other 3 sides of the box - well, not at normal speed. You do it in fast mode and describe at normal speed: all 4 sides demonstrated in the timeline of one side. Excellent  RickOn Jan 19, 2023, at 21:57, Tim Woodard  wrote:Thanks for sharing. my wife and I are Couple of bunkys on youtube please consider subscribing we do a new project every Thursday. check us out https://www.youtube.com/@CoupleofBunkies On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:49 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:Here you go guys eat it up. New LOM owner having fun.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell -- Forwarded message -From: YouTube Date: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:00 PMSubject:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstickTo: Tim Ziegler  Live on YouTube: Couple of Bunkys - Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick! PREMIERELegacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick Couple of Bunkys You were sent this email because you chose to receive updates from Couple of Bunkys. © 2023 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGJh047ar3siPsPqw3RYi80bQJZi7dOGrpCWOewc68t2Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- Timothy Lee WoodardE: twoodard...@gmail.comC: (757) 399-9778-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAC6wDbWnGAnSPMCQziXPGXTtb1Y0uutfAAuYJNF%2BXJti8jaJvw%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/32163815-A31C-44B5-AA76-50A237C9D7CF%40gmail.com.



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Re:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick

2023-01-20 Thread Rick Hutley

Subscribed - great videos. I love the speed of the videos, with voice description overlays. I get very frustrated by the ‘usual’ videos one finds, where they repeat every step at normal speed - after seeing someone cut one board, I don’t then need to see them repeat it for the other 3 sides of the box - well, not at normal speed. You do it in fast mode and describe at normal speed: all 4 sides demonstrated in the timeline of one side. Excellent RickOn Jan 19, 2023, at 21:57, Tim Woodard wrote:Thanks for sharing. my wife and I are Couple of bunkys on youtube please consider subscribing we do a new project every Thursday. check us out https://www.youtube.com/@CoupleofBunkiesOn Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:49 PM Tim Ziegler wrote:Here you go guys eat it up. New LOM owner having fun.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- Forwarded message -From: YouTube Date: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:00 PMSubject:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstickTo: Tim Ziegler

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Re: Wishing everyone a Very happy New Year.

2022-12-31 Thread Rick Hutley

…and may 2023 be better for us all 

Rick



> On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Steven Jacobs  wrote:
> 
> Happy New Year all!
> 
> I was getting spooled up to be more active here as life was starting to slow 
> down. I have a nice Revo and 900 CNC to get going again.
> That was until the deep freeze bit us while in Florida for the holidays. Pipe 
> burst and ran for 3 days. Repairs are in progress and Border Collie does not 
> like it at the Hampton Inn.. I don’t either really.
> 
> Just another experience I would rather not have! LOL
> 
> To all of you and your family around the world I hope you have a very Happy 
> and Safe New Year!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobs
> Brighton, TN. USA
> 
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Wishing you a happy new year as well Curt. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:35 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> > > wrote:
>> Just wanted to Wish everyone a Happy New Year.
>> I hope (and pray) that This up and coming new year will be an
>> even better year for Everyone.
>> 
>> C.A.G.
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Re: Re cold weather

2022-12-24 Thread Rick Hutley

-13 below zero here in Atlanta - and we are less used to such temps here than 
our friends up north. Still, we have been well warned by the weather forecasts 
and fortunately we’ve not had any precipitation so the roads are clear.

Stay warm and safe everyone - Merry Christmas!

Rick

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 06:44, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Brigitte,
> 
> We here in Central Minnesota are fighting some frigid temps. Wind chills to 
> -40 below, but 
> we are use to that so we prepare. They had some major interstates closed 
> yesterday south of us. 
> Overall I think outside of going through a lot of fuel oil for the heating 
> system and LP gas in the other
> systems we are doing ok. the Wind did not get to the 50 mph like they 
> predicted so thats a good thing. 
> Coldest we saw it so far is about -14 below zero. So not the worst. Here in 
> Minnesota we just refer this
> weather as "its making Ice" for ice fishing. 
> thanks for checking and Merry Christmas to you as well. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 4:20 AM Brigitte Graham  
>> wrote:
>> Morning Boys,
>> I hope that none of our Eastern  USA members are affected by the cold 
>> weather storm?
>> (I can't get the Legacy map up to see where group members are located).
>> I am praying that you are taking great care of yourselves!
>> 
>> Wishing everyone a Very Happy Christmas
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Legacy Widow
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Re: Snow Plowing Unit

2022-12-16 Thread Rick Hutley

Beautiful country though…..

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 4:33 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Yea every thing in Australia is poisonous lol
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  
>  > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 16 December 2022 9:14 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Snow Plowing Unit
>  
> Wow I guess I'll keep Minnesota, we might have mosquito's but mostly nothing 
> poison at least. They can't take the MInnesota Winters. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:09 PM  > wrote:
>> No snow in most of Australia accept in the mountains in the south east but 
>> nothing like what you guys get
>> Remember Australia is mostly a desert country in the middle and tropics in 
>> the north the south is the best weather\
>> So very little snowy places the couple of times it snowed where I live in my 
>> life time it melted as soon as it hit the ground.
>>  
>> Bill
>>  
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> > > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Friday, 16 December 2022 8:17 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Snow Plowing Unit
>>  
>> this is just the beginning of what we can get here. We don't get it like 
>> other states though. Or even Northern Minnesota
>> really gets dumped on. 
>> Does it even snow in Aussie Land?
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>>  
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>  
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>  
>>  
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:06 PM > > wrote:
>>> Wow thanks Tim I cant even imagine snow like that 
>>>  
>>> Bill
>>>  
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>> Sent: Friday, 16 December 2022 6:34 AM
>>> To: LOM Group >> >; Tim Ziegler 
>>> mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com>>
>>> Subject: Snow Plowing Unit
>>>  
>>> Hey Bill, and all,
>>>  
>>> Here is a little taste of what we have been getting this last couple days 
>>> with more coming. Ending tomorrow some time. We only got about 10 inches 
>>> but right before that the storm brought rain too. Its a mess. 
>>> See pics.
>>> Mac we are living up to our reputation. 
>>>  
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>  
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>  
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Remembrance Day

2022-11-10 Thread Rick Hutley

Same here Bill. May we all remember - and at the very least, spare 1 min of our 
day for silent contemplation and gratitude 

Rick

> On Nov 10, 2022, at 17:14, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Well in Australia its that time of the year again Remembrance Day 11/11/22
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kX_3y3u5Uo=18s_channel=TerryKelly
> and sadly every year here more and more people don’t take a minuet to remember
> our fallen Soldiers. So sad, I’m not one of them lest we forget.
>  
> And I have sort of adopted this song to help us always remember each year
>  
> Bill
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Re: Legacy video's

2022-11-03 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks Bill. While I only have a 900, the techniques shown are very useful.

Rick

> On Nov 3, 2022, at 00:31, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://lwmcnc.com/class-review/
> 
> Hello Everyone, this is form there CNC training classes.
> Although its geared for CNC, many of the steps and what they are making
> can be directly done on the Older Manual units.
> Its a good source of Information that many of our users/Group may like to see.
> 
> C.A.G. 
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Re: new video

2022-10-01 Thread Rick Hutley

I just watched the single start barley twist -outstanding. You show every step, 
in detail. I am a beginner (still) and have made barley twists the traditional 
way - through a frustrating process of trial and error! This is the first time 
I’ve seen how to use the gear chart. If only I’d had your video it would have 
saved me a lot of time, sawdust, and frequent profanity 

Thank you for these videos Bill

Rick

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 00:54, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A+.
> 
> Nice start Bill.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 04:23:46 PM EDT,  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks mac could you follow it ok with the missing video footage I lost I’m 
> hoping there is enough there to
> 
> Still learn how to mill a piece of stock to a certain size
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
> Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2022 5:23 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new video
> 
>  
> 
> Bill,
> 
>  
> I wholeheartedly agree with Tim - you did an EXCELLENT job producing that 
> video!
> (Look out! - Steven Spielberg!  Bill's coming at you!  LoL!)
> That is one thing that we all are missing out on - basic and 
> intermediate-level LOM videos.
> There are lots of folks getting their LOM "second hand" ("used"; but 
> sometimes some or all of it still in the factory boxes!) - so there 
> definitely is a NEED for very helpful videos like yours.
> On behalf of myself and others in this LOM Group - THANK YOU!
>  
> We look forward to MANY more. (That scares both Spielberg and "Follywood" 
> producers!)
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Sep 30, 2022 1:28 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: new video
> 
>  
> Hey Bill, 
> 
>  
> 
> thats awesome, that you took the time to make a good detailed video for the 
> new LOM owners. 
> 
> Its always good to see details like that. The length is fine. you get good 
> content in it that way.
> 
> I am all about longer videos if that what it takes to show what you need to 
> show.  
> 
> Great job Bill. 
> 
> Stay tuned as I finish it up. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> 
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>  
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:44 AM  wrote:
> 
> Ok guys I just made a new video https://youtu.be/7ZrQhmNmlqU
> 
>  
> 
> It’s the first in a series I’m going to try and do on showing newbees  basic 
> milling techniques  
> 
> The first is turning a blank to a size and boy did I have trouble with it 
> everything went wrong
> 
> From machine breakdowns to loosing video footage but good or bad its done I 
> did it with
> 
> What the basic new person would have with their mill hand cranking and only 
> using the drive motor
> 
> I just hope beginners can follow it its so hard to show an easy way. And yes 
> its long winded lol
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
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Re: a hand made gift

2022-09-11 Thread Rick Hutley

Indeed, a lovely sentiment Bill. The Japanese, in particular, are very attuned 
to this, placing great store in hand-made items. Even something as simple as a 
thank-you card is often made by hand to signify that the value of the message 
is in the effort the sender put into it, rather than the price of the card if 
bought at a shop. When you think of it, we all place great value on those, 
often unrecognisable drawings our young children make for us. Not because of 
the artistic flare but because they are hand made, for us, by someone we 
cherish above all else.

Rick

> On Sep 11, 2022, at 07:16, Ccm Ccm  wrote:
> 
> Nice 
> 
>> On Saturday, September 10, 2022,  wrote:
>> Today I gave my son his birthday gift and a card with this piece of advice
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The wealth of A hand made gift.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Each person in the world is given the gift of life
>> 
>> An amount of time they have till they die
>> 
>> So, every moment of it is a very precious thing
>> 
>> for a person to give up to you some of their time on the earth
>> 
>> in the form of a gift they have made nothing could be of higher value, the 
>> quality of the gift is not important it is the decision to give to you that 
>> part of their life to make it is a handmade gift makes it the most precious 
>> and valuable gift there is
>> 
>> I for one consider this a very valuable thing the most valuable gifts I own 
>> were given to me by people who had very little money or children who had 
>> none, these gifts are true treasures money cannot buy such wealth.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
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Re: legacy site

2022-05-23 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks Bill - very useful 

Rick

> On May 23, 2022, at 08:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/manuals/
>  
> just in case any of you guys didn’t know have a nose around here
> some interesting stuff from the legacy site on our old mills manuals and 
> other stuff
> I know most of you will have browsed but some newbees might not know
>  
> Bill
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Re: REVO DVDs

2022-05-12 Thread Rick Hutley

They do Curt, but unfortunately, when I tried to use them some months ago I 
found they are limited in size (unless you pay for an account)

Rick

> On May 11, 2022, at 21:50, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> OK I just remember people having You tube private channels that were not 
> accessible to everyone.
> You dont know if you dont ask.
> 
> thanks Bill.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 10:06:32 AM EDT,  wrote:
> 
> 
> No I cant put them on my youtube channel it would be violating copy write and 
> I would get kicked off youtube they are very fussy lots and lots of rules
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2022 11:03 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: REVO DVDs
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Bill
> 
>  
> 
> I dont know much about the video /you tub market.  But is there any way you 
> could post those on your web, as a private site just for Legacy LOM users?  
> Sorta public and private?  at least as a trial. If we find out its not a good 
> idea then it can be removed, no problems...
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 01:20:48 AM EDT,  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Ok dan I got the demo one downloaded
> Can you let me know please when the revo training video has finished 
> uploading so I can download that one
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Dan Krager
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2022 8:24 AM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: REVO DVDs
>  
> Bill, there may have been nothing there yet.  These things take forever to 
> upload. 
> DanK
>  
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:24:31 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:
> There doesn’t seem to be any substance to the files they only took a few 
> seconds to download
> Any file for a dvd should would take a while to download so something is not 
> right
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Richard Hutley
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2022 5:37 AM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: REVO DVDs
>  
> Hi Tim,
>  
> These are DVD files - you have to burn them to a set of DVDs for them to work 
> (which I have not done yet). Did you burn to DVDs?
>  
> Rick
>  
> 
> On May 10, 2022, at 11:36, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>  
> Hey Dan, I could not get these to play, can you redownload one to yourself 
> and see if it works?
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:41 AM Dan Krager  wrote:
> Here is the link to a folder on "my drive" named "REVO DVDs" where all five 
> discs each have their own subfolder.  The subfolder holds the entire DVD, so 
> download the entire subfolder and burn it to a dvd for permanency. 
>  
> Since this is a personal space, I will hold these here for several months to 
> give everyone time to download, after which I will probably need the space 
> for something else. 
>  
> Still hoping for permanent space on the site.
>  
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MBhAWewRxcVOfk9wjVkOVktxRNol0vbv?usp=sharing
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> DanK
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Re: REVO DVDs

2022-05-11 Thread Rick Hutley

As Tim says, we really appreciate your efforts Dan. I wished we lived closer so 
I could help (I’m a computer chap).

You could try playing the disks and use screen capture  software to make a copy 
of each disk. Each disk would then be recorded in a single non-DVD format file 
(e.g. mpeg or mov). They would be large but error free and should, therefore, 
transfer OK.

Rick

> On May 11, 2022, at 03:54, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> thanks Dan all we can do is try. And your efforts are much appreciated. 
> I will talk to my Son too and see if he has some idea's. 
> We have a company out by us that does a lot of that sort of thing but the 
> last I checked they
> were like $25.00 per disc so I never used them.
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 5:33 AM Dan Krager  wrote:
>> Well Gentlemen, so far my efforts to upload have failed.  The reason for 
>> failure is not clear to me as there could be several reasons and 
>> combinations of things.  We use DSL on copper as the most reliable and 
>> fastest internet available in this area.  We don't normally need really high 
>> speeds or heavy volume, so under normal circumstances this suits us fine.  
>> Another reason is that the discs are scratched enough that may cause file 
>> transfers to hiccup. Uploads are not very hiccup tolerant. They play just 
>> fine, but media players behave differently than file transfers and are a lot 
>> more forgiving of defects as a result.  
>> 
>> So I don't know what to do at this point.  There is one file that is error 
>> free "Revo Training (rev3)" and should work. The other "Demo DVD" is short 
>> two files that just won't transfer.  
>> 
>> I will try some more, but suggestions are welcome.
>> DanK
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Re: REVO DVDs

2022-05-10 Thread Rick Hutley

It’s not as easy as that Tim. I assume these will fit on a standard DVD (as 
opposed to a double sided DVD etc.) however, you need DVD burning software - 
which I guess you may not have.

Rick

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2022, at 14:47, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Rick,
> 
> No I am not sure we even have any blanks here. I will check on that. 
> Can you tell me the format etc... I should be getting? 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:24 PM  wrote:
>> There doesn’t seem to be any substance to the files they only took a few 
>> seconds to download
>> 
>> Any file for a dvd should would take a while to download so something is not 
>> right
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Richard Hutley
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2022 5:37 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: REVO DVDs
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> These are DVD files - you have to burn them to a set of DVDs for them to 
>> work (which I have not done yet). Did you burn to DVDs?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 10, 2022, at 11:36, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey Dan, I could not get these to play, can you redownload one to yourself 
>> and see if it works?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:41 AM Dan Krager  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is the link to a folder on "my drive" named "REVO DVDs" where all five 
>> discs each have their own subfolder.  The subfolder holds the entire DVD, so 
>> download the entire subfolder and burn it to a dvd for permanency. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Since this is a personal space, I will hold these here for several months to 
>> give everyone time to download, after which I will probably need the space 
>> for something else. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Still hoping for permanent space on the site.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MBhAWewRxcVOfk9wjVkOVktxRNol0vbv?usp=sharing
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> DanK
>> 
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Re: Legacy projects

2022-05-04 Thread Rick Hutley

Apart from the beautiful looks, being cedar it must smell wonderful too. 
Perfect for a blanket chest.

Rick

> On May 4, 2022, at 06:55, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> very good thanks. It sure pops 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
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> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 10:02 PM 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> It’s Minwax fast drying polyurethane, gloss finish. I think I didn’t mention 
>> it was an old legacy video that I saw and borrowed the idea from. I believe 
>> they had plans they sold as well for this style chest. The building is 
>> 60x40, 12’ side wall height. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 3, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> David that is absolutely beautiful. I just love how you combined the legacy 
>>> mill work into 
>>> such a classic cedar chest. It is absolutely stunning. 
>>> Looks like a pretty sizable shop too. Very nice and thanks for sharing. 
>>> Oh what are you using for finish? Almost looks like Piano Lacquer with its  
>>> high gloss.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 8:41 PM 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
  wrote:
 I saw about a 15-20 second clip from an old promotional video featuring a 
 “south west blanket chest”, and came up with this. 3” corners, 1 1/2” rope 
 twist 2 start, 3” pitch. Pretty easy to build.
 
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Re: Anzac

2022-04-24 Thread Rick Hutley

Yep - exactly

> On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:46 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> So like our Memorial Day?
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
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> 
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> 
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 6:26 PM Rick Hutley  <mailto:rghut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I have a few Oz relatives - long may we remember those who gave the ultimate 
> sacrifice.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:13 PM, > <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>> > <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone interested its anzac day here in oz as usual I went to the dawn 
>> service lest we forget
>>  
>> Bill
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Re: Anzac

2022-04-24 Thread Rick Hutley

I have a few Oz relatives - long may we remember those who gave the ultimate 
sacrifice.

Rick


> On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:13 PM,   
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> For anyone interested its anzac day here in oz as usual I went to the dawn 
> service lest we forget
>  
> Bill
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Re: pineapple pattern

2022-04-21 Thread Rick Hutley

That’s very impressive!

> On Apr 21, 2022, at 21:22, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I found this pic of a Dimond or pineapple pattern done on a legacy now just 
> by adding a 3/16 flat in the bottom of the spirals really makes the pattern 
> pop what do you all think? Some one should try this.
>  
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Re: Walking Stick Turned on my 1200 LOM

2022-04-12 Thread Rick Hutley

I have a 900. Not sure how long it is but, not as long as your walking stick I 
doubt. Extension rails sounds like a good way to go :)   Thanks for the tip.

Rick

> On Apr 12, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> Hey rick,
> 
> Thanks for the compliments. What size mill do you have?
> I have even added 3 feet of Rails and have run 9 foot on my mill. I don't 
> leave the extensions on 
> though as it almost touches my table saw then. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
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> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 6:55 AM Rick Hutley  <mailto:rghut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Nice!  I couldn’t handle something that long as one piece, but maybe two 
> pieces with a screw connector would work (like a pool cue).
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2022, at 22:22, timjz...@gmail.com <mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> 
>> mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening all LOM enthusiast's:
>> 
>> Hope all is well with all. 
>> I just finished a Walking Stick for my sister in-law. 
>> The species of wood is Tiger Strip Maple and I must say it really pops. l 
>> stained it with 
>> a Sherwin Williams "Bronze Walnut" and top coated with vinyl sealer and 2 
>> additional coats of Sherwin Williams lacquer. 
>> I used a 1 1/2 roping bit and have 4 starts using the standard gear set, 
>> giving  me a 6 inch pitch. 
>> I also used a 1/4 core box style bit to do the fluting which I incorporated 
>> The "Curtis George Indexing System" which worked absolutely perfectly. I cut 
>> the indexing plate for in on my Laser Engraver. 
>> I also used a 1/2 round over bit for the top end and a 1/4 round over bit on 
>> the bottom. 
>> The center is using a 45 degree V grooving bit. 
>> I believe the last 2 decorative rings at the base I used a 1/8 carbide 
>> spiral Bit. 
>> One last thing I used a 1/4 taper  from end to end to turn the part which 
>> the stick is approx. 5 ft long.
>> Overall I am very satisfied with the Stick and finish.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Tim J. Ziegler
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>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
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Re: Ukraine-Arkady Paka needs our help

2022-03-20 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks for organizing this Tim. Transferring the money to him was simple. Let’s 
hope he and his family remain safe and can rebuild their lives.

Rick


> On Mar 19, 2022, at 22:48, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good evening LOM group, 
> 
> After getting feedback from our mediators it was suggested that you donate 
> directly to Arkady Paka, That way there
> are no missing links or errors and it goes directly to him. 
> Please give if you can and I know he appreciates all the help he can get. 
> Please use the following address to find him in PayPal.
> 
> arkadyp...@gmail.com
> 
> It works as I'd already connected to verify it. 
> I know this will never replace what he left behind but will for sure be a 
> huge benefit to him and his wife. 
> thanks all. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 8:13 PM  wrote:
>> I would post both if I were you Tim it covers everyone that way
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2022 11:25 AM
>> To: LOM Group 
>> Subject: Re: Ukraine-Arkady Paka needs our help
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey LOM group, 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Arkady reached out with his PayPal user name. so we can do one of two 
>> things. 
>> 
>> You can each donate or I can have you each send it to my account and I can 
>> send it. 
>> 
>> If each of you have a Pay Pal it may be just as easy to donate direct but 
>> its up to you guys. 
>> 
>> Tell me how you want to handle it and I will either give you my Pay Pal user 
>> or Arkady's which ever will be 
>> 
>> the easiest for each of you. 
>> 
>> lets get him the help he needs. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:18 AM Tracy Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Count me in too.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tracy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:50 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's Nice Tim.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Let us know what you want to do and  how to do it.
>> 
>> I too would like to help Arkady if I can.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Please tell him that he will be in my Prayers. Hopefully this mess
>> 
>> will all be over soon?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.   
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 07:11:16 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks Rick, I know it will be appreciated. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 4:52 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> 
>> Me too
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2022, at 17:50, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would be willing to put in a few dollars to help out a member in need if 
>> every member of our group is willing to give just a couple of dollars it 
>> would add up to a nice amount to help out our member in great need.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 7:42 AM
>> To: LOM Group 
>> Subject: Uk

Re: candle stick

2022-03-20 Thread Rick Hutley

That is a great candle stick Bill. More importantly (for me) your images 
provide an excellent step-by-step ‘tutorial’ on how you made it. That is 
exceedingly helpful - thank you!

Rick

> On Mar 19, 2022, at 18:34, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> This came up in another woodwork group I am a member of so I thought I would 
> reshare it again here one of my early projects when I first got my mills
> https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/Candlestick/index.html
>  
> Bill
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Re: Ukraine-Arkady Paka needs our help

2022-03-17 Thread Rick Hutley

Me too


> On Mar 17, 2022, at 17:50, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I would be willing to put in a few dollars to help out a member in need if 
> every member of our group is willing to give just a couple of dollars it 
> would add up to a nice amount to help out our member in great need.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 7:42 AM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Ukraine-Arkady Paka needs our help
>  
> Good afternoon LOM group,
> As many of you know Ukraine is undergoing a mess right now and one of our 
> group members is from the Ukraine and many of you know him better then I do.
> I have been talking to him consistently this past few days in concern for his 
> safety and well being. 
> First he had to leave his home and stayed in a basement at a friend or 
> relatives home, now they are refugee's working on trying to get to West 
> Germany. 
> Many of the closer area's are already saturated with refugees so he's 
> attempting to get to West Germany possibly. 
> Currently they have a very old car and no money. I offered to reach out to 
> the group and see if there is anything anyone can do monetarily to help 
> Arkady?
> Also does anyone know anyone that could offer them a place to stay? 
> I reached out to some relatives but so far to no avail. 
> I have discussed this with a couple other's on the Forum and thought it a 
> good idea. At this point still a little uncertain to how we can get him funds 
> but I know 
> as Curt always says: where there's a will there's a way. 
> Also I have reached out to a local Church as well to see what can be done.
> Please consider helping our Friend out. He may never see his homeland again.
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
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Re: Note to all, I will be gone for a few days.

2022-03-04 Thread Rick Hutley

Congratulations on your 30th - have a great time

> On Mar 4, 2022, at 21:14, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My wife and I are going on a Caribbean Cruse tomorrow.  Celebrating our 30yr.
> 
> Tim K. and the other prime members of this LOM, GROUP will be watching  while 
> I'm away. 
> I hope there will be lots of good topic and new adventures with people 
> projects, while I'm gone.
> 
> 
> Just so, if you want to get a hold of me, and I don't reply, You will know 
> WHY,MAR. 15th I plan to be back.  I will try to check my e-mail, but 
> there is no for certain way to do that...
> 
> talk to you more latter.
> 
> I'm gong on a SEA Cruse!  
> "Anchor's away,"
> C.A.G.
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Re: Anyone heard from LOM Group member in Ukraine?

2022-02-26 Thread Rick Hutley

Me neither. Communication may be challenging right now

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 07:06, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have not yes lots of Prayer
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:58 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> Let's try this again!
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:55 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> Re-sending with a MUCH better SUBJECT line
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:52 AM
>> To: 
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> Curtis - and others,
>>  
>> Has anyone heard anything from our Guild member that lives (prayerfully 
>> STILL lives) in Ukraine!
>> His name is "Arkady from Ukraine".
>> (I won't put his last name - for his own protection.  Ya never know what the 
>> Commie-bastards will do!)
>> Here is the last post I found that he made - earlier this month, I believe:
>> Hi Bill. Good job. Wait making square spirals video.
>>  
>> Please PRAY for the Ukrainians - they need it badly right now.
>> Have a prayerful weekend!
>> Mac
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:16 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Perhaps? If you can, Please let us know what you find.  I have not seen this 
>> type of die-grinder but it sounds do-able.
>> I  wish you luck.
>>  
>>  
>> C.A.G.
>>  
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:25:15 PM EST,  wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to hold 
>> the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but it 
>> defiantly worth playing with the idea
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2022 1:26 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long 
>> neck which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work 
>> piece. (Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I 
>> have a few that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but 
>> seem to have just as much 
>> power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
>>  Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard 
>> to control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting 
>> would have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.
>> 
>> Gota run.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a great day.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST,  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template 
>> milling interesting idea curt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Jeff (and everyone.)
>> 
>> Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The 
>> last time I saw Andy at a trade show.
>> 
>> ( This was a few years ago.)
>> 
>> Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
>> Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
>> surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
>> less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on 
>> why his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine 
>> look different. and in a good way.) 
>> 
>> My point is two fold, 
>> 
>>  #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) 
>> for Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or 
>> Dermal (another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember 
>> this Z Axis dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what 
>> you have on your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used 
>> only when you need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out 
>> with the bath water, so to speak just to build something new. 
>> 
>> And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By 
>> breaking the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you 
>> could have never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old 
>> ways.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a good night.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Good thoughts Curt,
>> 
>>  
>>

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Rick Hutley

Good advice - thanks Curt!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 09:07, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Rick.
> 
> Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.
> Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will need 
> to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going through 
> all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.   In this 
> way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do anything your 
> body is not ready for.
> They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day 
> Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If you 
> think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to be 
> out in the shop to make things. Just think about it.   
> 
> I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the way 
> of you making stuff. ;-)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM time 
> soon. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
>> number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
>> with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
>> workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
>> from!
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 
>> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like 
>> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
>> well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
>> future? ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
>> started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
>> To: Legacy ornamental mills 
>> Subject: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
>> but its a good starting point, for me .
>> 
>> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>> 
>> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
>> Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some 
>> sanding.
>> 
>> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
>> after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle 
>> . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the 
>> next time I will do better?
>> 
>> Please let me know what you think?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Rick Hutley

I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
from!

Rick

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 
> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like 
>> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
>> well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
>> future? ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
>> started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
>> To: Legacy ornamental mills 
>> Subject: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
>> but its a good starting point, for me .
>> 
>> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>> 
>> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
>> Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some 
>> sanding.
>> 
>> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
>> after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle 
>> . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the 
>> next time I will do better?
>> 
>> Please let me know what you think?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
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Re: Cactus Juice for Stablization

2022-01-09 Thread Rick Hutley

I like it - makes perfect sense

Rick

> On Jan 9, 2022, at 11:24, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone.
> 
> I was thinking about this topic.  For Years I used a process for green wood 
> that I called water displacement.
> I was told it came for the old wooden ship building days.  When a mast was 
> damaged in a storm, the ship builders/carpenters would go into the forest and 
>  find a tree to use as a new mast. once this tree/mast was installed on the 
> ship, they would drill a hole on the top of the mast, and fill the hole with 
> oil,(I think linseed?) and keep filling the hole until the oil makes it to 
> the bottom of the mast.
> 
> I've done this process many times on my Mook Jong's (wooden man 
> dummies'/martial art dummies'.) on Green wood, after years of use, these 
> dummy's have almost no cracks in them as they dried. 
> 
> I was told that the oil displaces the water in the wood, since the oil dry's 
> out slowly the wood dose not crack (the slower the wood dry's out the more 
> stable it becomes.) 
> 
> Now I was thinking about trying this process on smaller parts and using a 
> vacuum chamber to remove the water, and replace it with oil.
> What do you guys think about this? a cheaper method of stabilizing wood... It 
> couldn't hurt to  try? 
> 
> Have a good day everyone.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 02:44:48 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> thanks Mac,
> 
> I appreciate your adding to this subject, as I for one want to make sure it's 
> practical and
> cost effective. I may work on a price list at some point and see where it 
> goes. For now  I just spent 
> a boat load on a new boiler for my shop along with all the other turning I'm 
> getting into. I better wait a 
> day or two. lol 
> I would like to watch a good video on it to as to see the whole process as 
> its done. Any body 
> have some input to who would be the best to watch???
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:23 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> For Tim and others,
>  
> Yes - Jed is spot on with his comments.
> You use a vacuum chamber when using Cactus Juice to stabilize your pieces of 
> wood.
>  
> Once you have stabilized it using the CJ process - you can fill in all the 
> voids using a resin.
> My friend uses a product called Alumilite.  They make a wide variety of 
> resins - check their site out.
> When using the resin you put your piece(s) in a mold and after filling it 
> with the resin, place it into a pressure pot/chamber (like Jed stated).  The 
> pressure forces the resin down into the cavities and crevices - displacing 
> the air that was down in them. When putting your pieces in the mold be sure 
> to leave plenty of room above the top of the wood so you can "overfill" the 
> mold.  Reason: as the resin is driven into the cavities the level of the 
> resin will drop as the air pockets are filled in.  So you need to plan for 
> enough "headspace" to be sure the top of your piece of wood remains covered 
> throughout the process.  My friend learned this the hard way.
>  
> Jed is right- the cycle of doing Cactus Juice followed by Alumilite is not 
> for the light hearted - and involve$ an inve$tment of time and fund$!  And as 
> if that's not bad enough, the shelf life of the products is relatively short. 
>  
> Be sure to do your research and "have all your ducks in a row" before buying 
> the CJ and/or Alumilite.  This includes acquiring the vacuum chamber; vacuum 
> pump, gauge, valves, tubing, etc.; pressure pot, compressor, etc.; and 
> toaster oven.  
> Then, once you have acquired this list of things - put them all together and 
> be sure you have everything assembled and working as they are supposed to.  
> That includes ensuring that your vacuum chamber will hold the vacuum for the 
> amount of time you expect to have the pieces in it and the pressure pot holds 
> its pressure as needed.
> You will have spent way too much time and money getting ready to do this - 
> you don't want any screw-ups! 
>  
> Best of luck in your endeavors.
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jan 6, 2022 11:59 AM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Cactus Juice for Stablization
> 
>  
> Stabilizing wood is a vacuum chamber.  It is an airtight chamber that forces 
> the stabilizing fluid deep into the wood.  You see little bubbles coming out 
> of the wood while it is under vacuum.  That is the air leaving the wood being 
> replaced by stabilizing fluid.  TurnTex woodworks (www.turntex.com) makes a 
> good vacuum chamber or you can build your own.  There is plenty of videos 
> online.
>  
> A pressure pot (originally for spraying paint) works quite different.  It 
> puts the piece under pressure pushing the resin in all the little cracks and 
> crevices.  The main reason for using it is it

Re: PEN TURNING

2022-01-04 Thread Rick Hutley

Me too. I get all of my pen supplies from Penn State Industries. I’m 
particularly fond of the Majestic Squire kits. More expensive that most but 
they are well constructed with a good heft to the pen.

Rick

> On Jan 4, 2022, at 15:46, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I have bought lots of stuff from Penn State good company to deal with I have 
> never ever had any issues with them they are one of the few companies that 
> ship to Australia well they were till Americas usps decided to stop all 
> shipping to Australia the pain in the asses.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2022 6:51 AM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: PEN TURNING
>  
> Hey Thanks Steve,
>  
> I appreciate your analogy, on your wood selection etc...Great idea's
> Thats a lot of pens. Do you have preferred supplier then? 
> I'm using Penn State for the first time, also WoodCraft and my favorite place 
> is Craft Supplies USA. but I'm just starting. 
> Really super excited your getting your shop oriented into a functional shop. 
> One must have a place to work. 
> So looking forward to pix and progress on the organization and of course the 
> LOM's particularly the REVO 
> Thanks for your contribution Steve,and post as much as you want it's great
> to hear from you, and I hope you consider posting more. up to you though. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 9:33 AM SteveEJ  wrote:
>   Nice job Tim. When I gift pens I have turned I try to match the wood with 
> the reason for the gift and/or the person I give it to. When I was getting 
> married some 22 years ago the pen I turned with oak and gave to my to be 
> Father-in-Law. The reason was he loved it and it showed strength. Once for 
> our church fund raiser I turned about 100 pens with bloodwood that obviously 
> indicated the blood of Christ. 
>  
>   I finally am getting my shop built with some organizing remaining. The 
> Legacy 900 CNC and my Revo will be put to work then. 
>  
> Long time reader but post very little. I hope the group doesn't mind.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Steve Jacobs
> Brighton, TN, USA
> 
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 9:24:20 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok guys I am absolutely hooked. I turned my first pen today. 
>  
> Pen kit: Slim Line from WoodCraft
> lathe used PM 4224 B
> Wood used Granadillo
> Tools to turn Easy Wood Tools Rougher and finisher
> Mandrel used White Side Pen mandrel and Barrel Trimming set.
> Sanded to 400 grit the buffed up to white series brillo style pad
> Finish 8-10 coats of Craft Supplies USA's CA glue w/accelerator (thin)
> sand between coats horizontally
> polished with:  Dr. Kirk's Micro Magic Polishing Wax
> polished again with: Dr. Kirk's Scratch FREEE Woodturners Polishing Wax
>  
> Proud owner of this beauty: "My Wife" 
>  
> let me know what you think. I'm hooked and will never look back. 
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Tim J. Ziegler 
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
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> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Re Christmas

2021-12-25 Thread Rick Hutley

A merry Christmas to one and all. Going to be warm in Atlanta (73Deg F) but 
cooler than our friends in Australia!

Rick

> On Dec 25, 2021, at 00:05, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Bill, and All,
> 
> Have a Blessed Christmas Season, Church tonight Gifts and tomorrow stocks 
> hung by the fire place and a nice Ham dinner. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 2:49 PM  wrote:
>> Yes its Christmas morning here right now 7.45 am and we are about to open a 
>> few presents
>> 
>> So before we do I wish all in this group a very merry Christmas and a very 
>> happy new year
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Brigitte Graham
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2021 4:53 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
>> Subject: Re Christmas
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I'd like to wish you all a Very Happy Christmas and a great (healthy) 2022.
>> 
>> I hope you get what you wished for
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brigitte
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Re: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

2021-12-21 Thread Rick Hutley

Wow - this looks great. I’ve turned over 200 pens, but never a ring. I must 
give that a try!  Thanks for the info/inspiration.

Rick

> On Dec 21, 2021, at 8:52 AM, timjz...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> Good morning so as promised I would be getting more into 
> turning and with that the passion has been to also do ring inlay,
> as well as wood rings and many others that are tunable or fillable.
> Available are stainless, ceramic, cobalt, wood, and many other variations
> of rings or blanks for filling. 
> I am super excited as I inlayed and turned down my first ring last night. 
> Pictured is the Turquoise inlay ring  I created. 
> I found out a lot of variations will occur during the process. 
> items I used:
> 1. size 10 stainless steel inlay style ring blank  (Craft Supplies USA)
> 2. Turquoise granules  (Craft Supplies USA)
> 3. CA glue   (Mohawk Brand)
> 4. Accelerator  (Mohawk Brand)
> 5. Artisan Ring turning Chuck  (Craft Supplies USA)
> 6. Medium Aluminum Bushings  (Craft Supplies USA)
> 7. Easy Wood Tools Large EASY FINISHER™  (Easy Wood Tools)
> 8. misc grits of sand paper from 120, 180, 800, 1500
> 9. 3 step polishes #1, #2, #3 special polish from (Craft Supplies USA)
> 
> Rather then explain the process that I took there is a very good video
> from Craft Supplies USA to watch. 
> I also have found and will be getting some ring and other turning supplies
> through WoodCraft as well. Lots of items out there.
> I bought the ring chuck with the 8 X 1 1/4 thread but also a thread reducer 
> to 
> go on the LOM's as I feel I will do some tests on there just because I can 
> 
> https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/72/7070/artisan-Ring-Turning-Chuck
> https://www.easywoodtools.com/full-size
> https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/17/6058/dr.-kirks-Micro-Magic-Polishing-Wax?term=ring+polishing+compound=ring%20polishing%20compound
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 
> Tim J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave..
> Foreston MN 56330
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Re: Lathe & LOM turning

2021-12-17 Thread Rick Hutley

While we are on the subject of ‘just get into the shop and do something’ - 
here’s another favourite of mine:  https://youtu.be/I_4rX3kq42w

Doug Linker makes carving look so easy 

Rick

> On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:54, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Guys.
> 
> Thank you Both Tim and Rick for the videos. 
> (Tim Yoder has been a favorite of mine for years.)
> 
> A friend of mine use to say, (A quote form his wife.)  
> "It doesn't matter where you get your apatite, as long as you come home for 
> Dinner." 
> 
> These type of videos Can help all of us to encourage ,Our will to get into 
> the shop and Make something. (even if its just saw dust.) ;-) 
> 
> I really believe that the Woodworking world's drive, started to die-out, when 
> Norm Abrams re-tired form his TV show , New Yankee workshop.  
> I think, We all need a little push to help our, drive to escape form the real 
> world, and focus on something else, for me the mental escape is why I go into 
> the shop, I want to "play" and enjoy the fruits of my labor. The problems of 
> the world are always out there. but while I'm in the shop, Somehow they (the 
> worlds problems), are keep at bay, for that time. When I go back to the real 
> world somehow it helps me to re-focus on the problems, to keep them at there 
> proper perspectives. 
> So I "PLAY" as much as I can, I feel it makes my life better. ;-)
> 
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a GREAT DAY.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Friday, December 17, 2021, 08:22:15 AM EST, Rick Hutley 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> One of favourite wood turners is Tim Yoder. I love the easy way in which he 
> teaches as he goes. Here’s an example (he’s done whole series):  
> https://youtu.be/EtUpSTsKRTs
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 07:56, timjz...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> 
>> Do any of you guys watch this guy and are there some 
>> videos that other's of you watch on turning?
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FUQFWk8gPY
>> 
>> Like I have said, I have turned for over 30 years doing 
>> chair leg repairs spindles for railings, cradles etc...
>> but have never done much leisure turning until now I am 
>> tooling up to do all kinds of things.
>> Bone turning being one of them. AKA curts favorite material
>> 
>> let me know your thoughts and some of your favorite youtubers 
>> you may follow.
>> And of course what your turning with what and how.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Tim J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specailty
>> 14171 160th Ave. 
>> Foreston MN 56330
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Re: Lathe & LOM turning

2021-12-17 Thread Rick Hutley

One of favourite wood turners is Tim Yoder. I love the easy way in which he 
teaches as he goes. Here’s an example (he’s done whole series):  
https://youtu.be/EtUpSTsKRTs

Rick

> On Dec 17, 2021, at 07:56, timjz...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> Do any of you guys watch this guy and are there some 
> videos that other's of you watch on turning?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FUQFWk8gPY
> 
> Like I have said, I have turned for over 30 years doing 
> chair leg repairs spindles for railings, cradles etc...
> but have never done much leisure turning until now I am 
> tooling up to do all kinds of things.
> Bone turning being one of them. AKA curts favorite material
> 
> let me know your thoughts and some of your favorite youtubers 
> you may follow.
> And of course what your turning with what and how.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Tim J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specailty
> 14171 160th Ave. 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
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Re: Legacy Project Share

2021-12-11 Thread Rick Hutley

Tim - could we scan them and post them to the google site?

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 20:32, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Chris Yes I got one with my 1500 want some copies of them? 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
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> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>   Virus-free. www.avg.com
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 6:58 PM Chris Smith  wrote:
>> Jeff, I love the cane and walking stick, thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> Tim mentioned in his comments that he was "...looking at that pattern the 
>> other night in the manual of projects."
>> I have an Owner's Manual for the 1000EX that includes some milling tips but 
>> that's it.  Is there another "manual of projects" out there somewhere?
>> 
>> Chris Smith
>> Sacramento
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 9:53 AM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>>> That’s great Rick.
>>> 
>>> As a suggestion, try out other cheap canes at the retail store to determine 
>>> your handle height as this is a personal preference based on your stature. 
>>> 
>>> When I make my next one, I plan to use a denser than walnut wood (a chunk 
>>> of teak or ebony?) for the head as it seems to be a little top light but 
>>> maybe that’s a good thing? 
>>> 
>>> I suggest something tight grained since it will be in direct contact with 
>>> your hand and the grain is less likely to raise from any moisture.
>>> 
>>> You could always stain a piece of maple but I like to use a clear finish to 
>>> bring out the natural beauty of the wood. 
>>> 
>>> I have included a link for the brass foot used on the one in my photo but 
>>> also a larger more stable one that I have used on others and would suggest 
>>> for moderate use. ( though the pricing is not what I remember) 路‍♂️
>>> 
>>> https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodriver-brass-cane-foot-hardware
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.rockler.com/medium-cane-walking-stick-hardware-kit
>>> 
>>> https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/hardware/project-supplies/metal-parts/63218-veritas-cane-and-staff-tips
>>> 
>>> These may be less costly
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Ranger5-Non-Slip-Universal-Walking-Replacement/dp/B07RYS7FK1/ref=mp_s_a_1_53?crid=35DSI7HJL63LC=walking+stick+foot+hardware=1639147203=walking+stick+foot+hardware%2Caps%2C143=8-53
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Small-Combination-Walking-Stick-Cane/dp/B0002IXM6O/ref=pd_aw_sim_10/134-9977939-7712366?pd_rd_w=BVfDI_rd_p=4a14332c-7e23-4ec9-823a-651663cffa87_rd_r=P5W7BFFKXF889KDGCHK7_rd_r=8e6013dc-ecd9-4830-b0a3-4dcc8a4a5bfe_rd_wg=H4mro_rd_i=B0002IXM6O=1
>>> 
>>> Happy Milling 
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, this certainly inspires me Jeff. I’m about to have replacement knee 
>>>> surgery and will need a walking stick during my recovery. I love the 
>>>> hammerhead design 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 20:16, Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This post is made in the hope that project photos on current or previous 
>>>>> projects made on a Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM), in whole or in part, may 
>>>>> inspire other users to share their own project photos with some related 
>>>>> details, generate additional group feedback, and quite possibly some new 
>>>>> sawdust making activity on your own machines.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have included another example below of something I made a while back in 
>>>>> an effort to keep this thread going.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Related Details
>>>>> 
>>>>> Description: Hammerhead Cane
>>>>> 
>>>>> Project Size: 36" Long Cane & 48" Walking Stick
>>>>> 
>>>>> Plan: Legacy Project Manual for Cane
>>>>> 
>>>>> Legacy Model: 900 Hand Crank
>>>>> 
>>>>> Legacy Method(s) Used: 2 Start Rope and Tapered Spindle, Template 
>>>>> Follower for

Re: Legacy Project Share

2021-12-11 Thread Rick Hutley

Good to know Bill, whether buying or making a cane. Thanks
Rick

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 20:11, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Stand up strait with your hands at your sides, measure from the ground up to 
> your wrist that is usually the correct length for a walking stick.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2021 4:54 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Legacy Project Share
>  
> That’s great Rick.
>  
> As a suggestion, try out other cheap canes at the retail store to determine 
> your handle height as this is a personal preference based on your stature. 
>  
> When I make my next one, I plan to use a denser than walnut wood (a chunk of 
> teak or ebony?) for the head as it seems to be a little top light but maybe 
> that’s a good thing? 
>  
> I suggest something tight grained since it will be in direct contact with 
> your hand and the grain is less likely to raise from any moisture.
>  
> You could always stain a piece of maple but I like to use a clear finish to 
> bring out the natural beauty of the wood. 
>  
> I have included a link for the brass foot used on the one in my photo but 
> also a larger more stable one that I have used on others and would suggest 
> for moderate use. ( though the pricing is not what I remember) 路‍♂️
>  
> https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodriver-brass-cane-foot-hardware
>  
>  
> https://www.rockler.com/medium-cane-walking-stick-hardware-kit
>  
> https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/hardware/project-supplies/metal-parts/63218-veritas-cane-and-staff-tips
>  
> These may be less costly
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Ranger5-Non-Slip-Universal-Walking-Replacement/dp/B07RYS7FK1/ref=mp_s_a_1_53?crid=35DSI7HJL63LC=walking+stick+foot+hardware=1639147203=walking+stick+foot+hardware%2Caps%2C143=8-53
>  
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Small-Combination-Walking-Stick-Cane/dp/B0002IXM6O/ref=pd_aw_sim_10/134-9977939-7712366?pd_rd_w=BVfDI_rd_p=4a14332c-7e23-4ec9-823a-651663cffa87_rd_r=P5W7BFFKXF889KDGCHK7_rd_r=8e6013dc-ecd9-4830-b0a3-4dcc8a4a5bfe_rd_wg=H4mro_rd_i=B0002IXM6O=1
>  
> Happy Milling 
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
> 
> On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Rick Hutley  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, this certainly inspires me Jeff. I’m about to have replacement knee 
> surgery and will need a walking stick during my recovery. I love the 
> hammerhead design 
>  
> Thanks
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Dec 9, 2021, at 20:16, Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> This post is made in the hope that project photos on current or previous 
> projects made on a Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM), in whole or in part, may 
> inspire other users to share their own project photos with some related 
> details, generate additional group feedback, and quite possibly some new 
> sawdust making activity on your own machines.
> 
>  
> 
> I have included another example below of something I made a while back in an 
> effort to keep this thread going.
> 
>  
> 
> Related Details
> 
> Description: Hammerhead Cane
> 
> Project Size: 36" Long Cane & 48" Walking Stick
> 
> Plan: Legacy Project Manual for Cane
> 
> Legacy Model: 900 Hand Crank
> 
> Legacy Method(s) Used: 2 Start Rope and Tapered Spindle, Template Follower 
> for Head
> 
> Wood Type(s): Maple and Walnut Cane, Tiger Maple Walking Stick
> 
> Finish: Clear Polyurethane
> 
>  
> 
> Please share your creativity
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: Legacy Project Share

2021-12-11 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks Jeff. Great suggestions 
Rick

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 12:53, Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> 
> 
> That’s great Rick.
> 
> As a suggestion, try out other cheap canes at the retail store to determine 
> your handle height as this is a personal preference based on your stature. 
> 
> When I make my next one, I plan to use a denser than walnut wood (a chunk of 
> teak or ebony?) for the head as it seems to be a little top light but maybe 
> that’s a good thing? 
> 
> I suggest something tight grained since it will be in direct contact with 
> your hand and the grain is less likely to raise from any moisture.
> 
> You could always stain a piece of maple but I like to use a clear finish to 
> bring out the natural beauty of the wood. 
> 
> I have included a link for the brass foot used on the one in my photo but 
> also a larger more stable one that I have used on others and would suggest 
> for moderate use. ( though the pricing is not what I remember) 路‍♂️
> 
> https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodriver-brass-cane-foot-hardware
> 
> 
> https://www.rockler.com/medium-cane-walking-stick-hardware-kit
> 
> https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/hardware/project-supplies/metal-parts/63218-veritas-cane-and-staff-tips
> 
> These may be less costly
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Ranger5-Non-Slip-Universal-Walking-Replacement/dp/B07RYS7FK1/ref=mp_s_a_1_53?crid=35DSI7HJL63LC=walking+stick+foot+hardware=1639147203=walking+stick+foot+hardware%2Caps%2C143=8-53
> 
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Small-Combination-Walking-Stick-Cane/dp/B0002IXM6O/ref=pd_aw_sim_10/134-9977939-7712366?pd_rd_w=BVfDI_rd_p=4a14332c-7e23-4ec9-823a-651663cffa87_rd_r=P5W7BFFKXF889KDGCHK7_rd_r=8e6013dc-ecd9-4830-b0a3-4dcc8a4a5bfe_rd_wg=H4mro_rd_i=B0002IXM6O=1
> 
> Happy Milling 
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, this certainly inspires me Jeff. I’m about to have replacement knee 
>> surgery and will need a walking stick during my recovery. I love the 
>> hammerhead design 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rick
>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 20:16, Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> This post is made in the hope that project photos on current or previous 
>>> projects made on a Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM), in whole or in part, may 
>>> inspire other users to share their own project photos with some related 
>>> details, generate additional group feedback, and quite possibly some new 
>>> sawdust making activity on your own machines.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have included another example below of something I made a while back in 
>>> an effort to keep this thread going.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Related Details
>>> 
>>> Description: Hammerhead Cane
>>> 
>>> Project Size: 36" Long Cane & 48" Walking Stick
>>> 
>>> Plan: Legacy Project Manual for Cane
>>> 
>>> Legacy Model: 900 Hand Crank
>>> 
>>> Legacy Method(s) Used: 2 Start Rope and Tapered Spindle, Template Follower 
>>> for Head
>>> 
>>> Wood Type(s): Maple and Walnut Cane, Tiger Maple Walking Stick
>>> 
>>> Finish: Clear Polyurethane
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Please share your creativity
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>> 
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Re: Legacy Project Share

2021-12-08 Thread Rick Hutley

Would a Dremel with a sanding head work?
Rick

> On Dec 8, 2021, at 05:37, Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> 
> The outside is sanded with various grits using a sanding mop mounted on a 
> drill press and some hand sanding while the interior had sharp edges that 
> were smoothed over with files and strip sandpaper by hand. By far the most 
> tedious part of the whole process. Still looking into better ways, next time 
> I may try a table mounted jigsaw with a file for the interior edges or dremel 
> type tool along with hand sanding as there is not enough clearance to use 
> something like a spindle sander.
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 3:40 AM, Arkady Paka  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jeff.
>> Very beautiful candles.
>> Tell us how you sanding hollow spiral?
>> Arkady from Ukrane.
>> 
>> ср, 8 дек. 2021 г., 08:10 M.W.Foscue :
>>> Excellent points from both you and Tim, Bill.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Dec 7, 2021 9:56 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: RE: Legacy Project Share
>>> 
>>>  
>>> If you could remember the router bits used and the pitch and starts ect. 
>>> Would be of help too please
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 1:17 PM
>>> To: LOM Group 
>>> Subject: Re: Legacy Project Share
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> thanks Jeff, exactly what we are hoping for and thanks for including the 
>>> details like you did.
>>> 
>>> The other item to mention or items are the bit numbers and if they are 
>>> magnate or freud or other brand.
>>> 
>>> All great discussion and tools for all. 
>>> 
>>> so thanks again for your input. Curt will be trying to catch up tonight 
>>> when he gets back from work. 
>>> 
>>> He'll be up a while lol.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 6:45 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Based on comments made earlier today, project photos on current or previous 
>>> projects made on a Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM), in whole or in part, may 
>>> inspire other users to share their own project photos with some related 
>>> details.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hopefully this exercise will generate additional group activity and 
>>> feedback and quite possibly some new sawdust making activity on your own 
>>> machines.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have included one example below of something I made a while back in an 
>>> effort to get this thread going.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Related Details
>>> 
>>> Description: Candle Stands
>>> 
>>> Legacy Model: 900 Manual
>>> 
>>> Legacy Method(s) Used: Hollow Spirals - Double and Quad, Indexing on Cup 
>>> and Base
>>> 
>>> Wood Type(s): Maple and Cherry
>>> 
>>> Finish: Clear Polyurethane
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Please share your creativity
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>> 
>>>  
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Re: Nov. contest results.

2021-12-01 Thread Rick Hutley

Indeed - Curt has been exceedingly generous, and not just with his jig. Curt’s 
intent to ’stimulate group interactions’ has proven highly successful. This is, 
by far, the most lively group I belong to. Everyone shares so much information, 
ideas, and suggestions. That is a prize we can all be grateful for - many 
thanks Curt.

Rick


> On Dec 1, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations Matt and Rick 
> 
> Let the rest of us know how these work out for you.
> 
> Thanks Curt for your generosity.
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2021, at 1:14 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> Last months contest, 
>> I offered two roping index jigs and 4 sets of index plates, for the two most 
>> active people in our group with  posting, done through out the Month of 
>> November.
>> 
>> Since both Bill and Tim, opted out, at the very start of our contest.
>> 
>> The next two people who had the most postings were...
>> 
>> Mac. and Rick (Rghu) 
>> 
>> Both Jed and Jeff also helped to try to keep things interesting with in the 
>> last week of this month. We had some good topics, I would like to thank 
>> everyone. 
>> 
>> Mac and Rick.  Please send me your addresses so I can mail out your prizes.  
>> If you choose to accept the prize you each won. 
>> 
>> Congratulations on winning. My newest proto type jig made for the Legacy. 
>> I sincerely hope you enjoy this tool as much as I have/do enjoy using it.
>> 
>> talk to you both more latter.
>> Have a good night.
>> 
>> C.A.G. 
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Re: Spindle drive

2021-11-29 Thread Rick Hutley

Wow. That looks like one heck of a drive motor/gearbox assembly! What are the 
SoECS on the motor you used?

Rick

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 22:51, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
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> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a 
>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I 
>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the 
>> hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very 
>> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle 
>> drive
>> 
>> Jack Terry
>> Covington La.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Spindle drive

2021-11-28 Thread Rick Hutley

I’m looking into that too, Jack (I have a 900)

Rick

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 19:24, Jack Terry  wrote:
> 
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a 
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I 
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the 
> hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very 
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive
> 
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Black Friday Weekend Woodshop Deals

2021-11-28 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks for the link Tim. I usually purchase my pen supplies from pennstate 
industries 
(https://www.pennstateind.com/?msclkid=81cdd1f3dc6f131c2001b0505c3aeccd_source=bing_medium=cpc_campaign=Penn%20State%20Industries%20Mispellings%20TEST_term=pennstateind_content=Penstateindustries)
 but these are better prices from Woodpecker.

Rick

> On Nov 27, 2021, at 06:52, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well look here we have a great sale for the Turners. 
> At least it's not JCP's sale and we all could benefit from this one. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
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> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
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Re: questions on making your own bone trimmer

2021-11-23 Thread Rick Hutley

Very helpful - thanks Curt.

Rick

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 12:01, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone.  I was asked to give more info on bone turning.
> Here is a link to how I made the smaller bone trimmer 
> https://groups.google.com/g/legacy-ornamental-mills/c/vHinDQpt91Q/m/gXSlevviAgAJ
>  which is cheaper to make and easer to use then the larger one. I works great 
> for smaller pens and turnings. the 3/4" cutter let you get more thicker disks 
> form the same bone.
> 
> I would suggest if you want to try working with bone to start with this.
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
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Re: Busy day in the shop

2021-11-21 Thread Rick Hutley

Great pieces Curt. 

Can you give some insight on your bone selection/prep. 

* What bone do you use (which animal[s])?

* Do you perform any specific prep of the bone before turning (eg drying, 
bleaching, etc.)?

* Do you look for/avoid any specific bone features (cracks, knuckles, density, 
etc.)?

Thanks
Rick



> On Nov 20, 2021, at 23:05, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here are some better photo's of the finished turnings.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 10:59:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Tim
> 
> The diamond pattern is an 8 start rope and then reversed the gears  to cut 
> the other direction. The new roping index system was used on the diamond 
> pattern. (and again it worked out well.) ;-)
> 
> On the Bone turning. I am getting faster to make these. I made up the glue 
> ups for the bone in appx. 4hrs. The cutting on the Legacy only takes 30 min. 
> per depending on the design that I want to use.
> 
> I made a mistake on my first bone turning. (the one with the leather.) After 
> my glue up was dry, I went to mount it onto my pen mandrel. But glue got into 
> the brass tubing. So I used a drill bit to remove the glue. I ended up using 
> to much force and the bone broke in three spots.  After scraping the 
> bone/removing the old glue. I found that the bone would not go together with 
> out having gaps between the disks.
> This is where the leather came in.  I soaked the leather in the glue and 
> added it in-between the bone disks, and compressed the glue up in my vice.  
> Leather will bend, form and or compress to the shape you want. In this case 
> it filled the gaps between the bone disks in my turning. 
> So all I needed to do is, change my plans to work with the leather bone 
> combo. I used the leather for accent points of transition for the beads and 
> roping.  Over all I'm pretty happy with the way turned out. 
> Bye the way, I used an 8 start index on this, but felt it was going to be to 
> tight (due to my choice of router bit I used.), so I only use every other 
> index points, to make this a 4 start rope. but I did use all 8 indexes for/on 
> the bead.
> On the roped bone spindle. I used a 1/8" radius bit to cut the rope.
> https://www.amanatool.com/56125-solid-carbide-point-cutting-roundover-1-8-radius-x-1-4-dia-x-5-16-x-1-4-shank-router-bit.html
>  
> Again using the 8 start index plate. for this spindle. 
> Everything worked up well for me. 
> 
> That's it for now.
> talk to you more tomorrow.
> Have a good night.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 09:36:07 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey, very intriguing Curt. I must say you have to be one of the busiest LOM 
> guys I know. 
> Between you and Bill. I'm very impressed. 
> I must say you have truly become the Bone Turning Master. 
> I love the diamond pattern you put on the Bill Club. I'm going to have to try 
> that. 
> What is your process to do that?
> How many hours average per handle on the bone with all the processes you do?
> I showed my wife that tonight and she was equally impressed.
> 
> Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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> 
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> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 4:33 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Hello Everyone!
> 
> Santa's work shop projects for the season are now completed. (Note: I did not 
> do everything today, but completed everything on my list today.)
> I made 22 magnifying glass handles, using some 6 different designs, and a 
> number of different woods.
> I also Made three different Legacy projects shown here, ( Note: I made the 
> bone handles last week, I'm not sure if I showed them off, So I'm posting 
> this today.)  and a checkering handle on a Billy club. rounds everything off. 
> LOT's of fun, I learned some new tricks on these projects too, that may help, 
> your next project if you choose to try them?
> 
> Please let me know what you think.
> 
> Any questions or comments are as always welcome.
> 
> C.A.G.
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Re: not legacy but

2021-11-11 Thread Rick Hutley

Excellent idea - thanks
Rick

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 03:07, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok what do you do when you want to mill a edge on a round piece of wood like 
> this and your rotary table is set up for another job
> 
>  
> You go over to the router table with 2 roller blade wheels and a mirror 
> (because I mill sitting down)
>  
> And do this
> 
>   
> 
>  
> The cut is made deeper by moving one rollerblade wheel to the right and 
> relocking it down
> The mirror is so I can see what’s going on as I cut
>  
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Re: Computer controlled motor drive

2021-11-08 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks Tracy. I am considering motorizing my LOM 900. Do you have details on 
what motor might be suitable?

Rick

> On Nov 8, 2021, at 12:36, Tracy Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> I'm here just been very quiet lately. Work is very busy.
> 
> I've had several LOMs over the last few years. I currently have a LOM 1200 
> with the Performance CNC upgrade. Happy to help where I can.
> 
> Tracy
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:01 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> Indeed - I’m so glad I found the group.
>> 
>> Yes, please do send me Tracy’s email.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rick
>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 06:58, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Were all in this together that's what makes the group so special Rick. 
>>> 
>>> Did you want me to send you Tracy's email??
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:20 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>>> Many thanks for the advice 
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 21:50, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yup pretty much the same thing as what Curt suggested. Thats what makes 
>>>>> your unit special. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>> 
>>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM clif...@msn.com  wrote:
>>>>>> Hey, those linear rails appear to be the rails on my LOM.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 6:22:08 AM UTC-8 rghu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Curt - I will investigate.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:29 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Rick
>>>>>>>> I wish you luck on this venture.
>>>>>>>> Please note that Legacy needed to completely re-design there machine 
>>>>>>>> in order to make it a practical CNC unit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What I recommend for you to do if you want to attempt this CNC 
>>>>>>>> up-grade, is to add linear rail to your machine, For what you need the 
>>>>>>>> cost is, well worth the price. 
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-2000mm-4SBR16UU-Bearing-Bearings/dp/B07DCV98HL/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1KLMN39CWZ936=16mm+linear+rail=1636290947=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C103=8-17
>>>>>>>>   16MM rail is exactly the same size and Legacy's rail. It is what I 
>>>>>>>> used for mine, 20mm would also work well. (NOTE: Legacy started using 
>>>>>>>> there rail turned so that the large slot was facing up, On my 1000ex 
>>>>>>>> the small slot was up, Please measure your rail, If your extruded 
>>>>>>>> alum. rail is large slot up, then the 20mm would fit better.)
>>>>>>>> Here is a photo of the 16mm sitting on top of My/Legacy rail.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wish you luck on your project.
>>>>>>>> Please let us know how it works out for you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 07:57:47 AM EST, Rick Hutley 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am thinking of developing a computer program to control my LOM. Does 
>>>>>>>> anyone have an specs/recommendations on a motor that would be suitable 
>>>>>>>> (I have a 900 unit).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If I can get it workin

Re: Computer controlled motor drive

2021-11-08 Thread Rick Hutley

Indeed - I’m so glad I found the group.

Yes, please do send me Tracy’s email.

Thanks
Rick

> On Nov 8, 2021, at 06:58, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Were all in this together that's what makes the group so special Rick. 
> 
> Did you want me to send you Tracy's email??
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:20 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> Many thanks for the advice 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 21:50, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yup pretty much the same thing as what Curt suggested. Thats what makes 
>>> your unit special. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM clif...@msn.com  wrote:
>>>> Hey, those linear rails appear to be the rails on my LOM.  
>>>> 
>>>> Jed
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 6:22:08 AM UTC-8 rghu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Curt - I will investigate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:29 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Rick
>>>>>> I wish you luck on this venture.
>>>>>> Please note that Legacy needed to completely re-design there machine in 
>>>>>> order to make it a practical CNC unit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I recommend for you to do if you want to attempt this CNC up-grade, 
>>>>>> is to add linear rail to your machine, For what you need the cost is, 
>>>>>> well worth the price. 
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-2000mm-4SBR16UU-Bearing-Bearings/dp/B07DCV98HL/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1KLMN39CWZ936=16mm+linear+rail=1636290947=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C103=8-17
>>>>>>   16MM rail is exactly the same size and Legacy's rail. It is what I 
>>>>>> used for mine, 20mm would also work well. (NOTE: Legacy started using 
>>>>>> there rail turned so that the large slot was facing up, On my 1000ex the 
>>>>>> small slot was up, Please measure your rail, If your extruded alum. rail 
>>>>>> is large slot up, then the 20mm would fit better.)
>>>>>> Here is a photo of the 16mm sitting on top of My/Legacy rail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wish you luck on your project.
>>>>>> Please let us know how it works out for you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 07:57:47 AM EST, Rick Hutley 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am thinking of developing a computer program to control my LOM. Does 
>>>>>> anyone have an specs/recommendations on a motor that would be suitable 
>>>>>> (I have a 900 unit).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I can get it working I would be happy to share the program with 
>>>>>> anyone who wants it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Computer controlled motor drive

2021-11-08 Thread Rick Hutley

Many thanks for the advice 

Rick

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 21:50, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yup pretty much the same thing as what Curt suggested. Thats what makes your 
> unit special. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM clif...@msn.com  wrote:
>> Hey, those linear rails appear to be the rails on my LOM.  
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 6:22:08 AM UTC-8 rghu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks Curt - I will investigate.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:29 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> Hello Rick
>>>> I wish you luck on this venture.
>>>> Please note that Legacy needed to completely re-design there machine in 
>>>> order to make it a practical CNC unit.
>>>> 
>>>> What I recommend for you to do if you want to attempt this CNC up-grade, 
>>>> is to add linear rail to your machine, For what you need the cost is, well 
>>>> worth the price. 
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-2000mm-4SBR16UU-Bearing-Bearings/dp/B07DCV98HL/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1KLMN39CWZ936=16mm+linear+rail=1636290947=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C103=8-17
>>>>   16MM rail is exactly the same size and Legacy's rail. It is what I used 
>>>> for mine, 20mm would also work well. (NOTE: Legacy started using there 
>>>> rail turned so that the large slot was facing up, On my 1000ex the small 
>>>> slot was up, Please measure your rail, If your extruded alum. rail is 
>>>> large slot up, then the 20mm would fit better.)
>>>> Here is a photo of the 16mm sitting on top of My/Legacy rail.
>>>> 
>>>> Wish you luck on your project.
>>>> Please let us know how it works out for you.
>>>> 
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 07:57:47 AM EST, Rick Hutley 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> I am thinking of developing a computer program to control my LOM. Does 
>>>> anyone have an specs/recommendations on a motor that would be suitable (I 
>>>> have a 900 unit).
>>>> 
>>>> If I can get it working I would be happy to share the program with anyone 
>>>> who wants it.
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> <16MM rail1.JPG>
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Re: Computer controlled motor drive

2021-11-07 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks Curt - I will investigate.

Rick

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:29 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Rick
> I wish you luck on this venture.
> Please note that Legacy needed to completely re-design there machine in order 
> to make it a practical CNC unit.
> 
> What I recommend for you to do if you want to attempt this CNC up-grade, is 
> to add linear rail to your machine, For what you need the cost is, well worth 
> the price. 
> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-2000mm-4SBR16UU-Bearing-Bearings/dp/B07DCV98HL/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1KLMN39CWZ936=16mm+linear+rail=1636290947=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C103=8-17
>  
> <https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-2000mm-4SBR16UU-Bearing-Bearings/dp/B07DCV98HL/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1KLMN39CWZ936=16mm+linear+rail=1636290947=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C103=8-17>
>   16MM rail is exactly the same size and Legacy's rail. It is what I used for 
> mine, 20mm would also work well. (NOTE: Legacy started using there rail 
> turned so that the large slot was facing up, On my 1000ex the small slot was 
> up, Please measure your rail, If your extruded alum. rail is large slot up, 
> then the 20mm would fit better.)
> Here is a photo of the 16mm sitting on top of My/Legacy rail.
> 
> Wish you luck on your project.
> Please let us know how it works out for you.
> 
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 07:57:47 AM EST, Rick Hutley 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I am thinking of developing a computer program to control my LOM. Does anyone 
> have an specs/recommendations on a motor that would be suitable (I have a 900 
> unit).
> 
> If I can get it working I would be happy to share the program with anyone who 
> wants it.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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Computer controlled motor drive

2021-11-07 Thread Rick Hutley

Folks,

I am thinking of developing a computer program to control my LOM. Does 
anyone have an specs/recommendations on a motor that would be suitable (I 
have a 900 unit).

If I can get it working I would be happy to share the program with anyone 
who wants it.

Rick

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Re: Advice needed on gear

2021-11-03 Thread Rick Hutley

It does, but until Curt sent me his info I had no idea what the decal was 
trying to tell me! Now, armed with this new found knowledge, I can start to 
experiment 

Rick

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 02:00, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> 
> 
> Rick,
> Does your LOM have a decal/label on the red steel headstock cross bar that 
> has outlines of seven partial circles and a line "sketch" of Andy Anderson 
> (the founder of the company/companies that developed your machine).
> If so, those "partial circles" are the diameters of the 7 drive gears you 
> hopefully have.  Lay each gear on the corresponding outlines and label each 
> with a Sharpie (A thru G).  I also label each with its tooth count.
> Cheers!
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 2, 2021 9:35 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Advice needed on gear
> 
>  
> Many thanks Curt - this is VERY useful. I’m not sure which gear sets I have, 
> but I can tell you that, in addition to the 3 gears installed on the make (2 
> large ones and a smaller one connected to the crank handle) I have a further 
> 6 gears of various sizes, and 5 gears with holes in - which I assign are 
> indexing gears.
>  
> I don’t have any videos so, the links you provide are, again, very helpful. 
> Using the information you have provided I will play around. From what I can 
> see from this group, I should be able to come up to speed quickly.
>  
> I would love to win one of your indexing heads so, I will post as often as I 
> can …. but only when I have something constructive to add. I don’t want to 
> clog-up the groups email just for the sake of it. If there are any topics I 
> can help with that others may find interesting, please let me know (BTW - my 
> background is in computing, computer programming, robotics, etc.)
>  
> Many thanks for your swift response, and great help Curt.
>  
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hey Rick
> Let me also say, or ask? what get sets you have? legacy make 3 different 
> sets, the standard set and two others, If you see on the chart I sent you. 
> the idea is to match the drive gear to the chart, this is a easy reference. 
> the idea of a pitch, is how far you have to move over a spindle diameter to 
> make a full rotation.  
> So If you use an "A" gear you will move 2" for one full rotation, according 
> to the chart.  
> Now this is only 1/2 of the story. you also have to think of how many starts 
> you will need to fill in your rope.  To make this easy, lets say you have a 
> 1" spindle, and you are using a 1" roping bit. 
> Most roped cuts looks best with 3 or 4 starts, If you use a 2" pitch it will 
> look more like an all-thread rod.(to fine of a pitch.) so with my rule of 
> thumb 3-4 time the diameter of the spindle looks best.
> So On a 1" spindle a "B" or "C" gear, should look good.
>  
> Legacy's method for cutting is to make your first cut, reverse the machine 
> back to the beginning. then move the carriage forward the spacing you want.  
> then lock in the carriage onto the acme screw, then reverse it back to the 
> starting point and cut again. then repeat until you have cut your wanted 
> number of cuts.
>  
> Now the funny thing on this topic. is I/We are offering two sets of a proto 
> type indexing head that make roping much simpler.  All you have to do it post 
> to the group. the two people who have the most postings to the group this 
> month, will win a roping index and 4 index plates.
> So your timing is very good. Day 2 of this contest. and you have one posting. 
> ;-)
> Feel free to post and ask as many questions as you can.
>  
> talk to you more latter.
>  
> Have a good day.
>  
> C.A.G.
> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 08:34:13 AM EDT, Rick Hutley 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Folks,
> 
> I am new to the Legacy mill (I just obtained a 900 unit) and this group - 
> thanks for letting me join. While I have the manual that tells me how to put 
> the machine together, it gives no information on what all the gears mean - or 
> how to interpret the gear emblem on the end of the unit (the one showing the 
> A, B, …. circles). I’ve searched online but cannot find any information on 
> how to use the gears, and when I called Legacy they simply said they don’t 
> support the ornamental mills anymore and were of no help at all!
> 
> I am hoping someone in the group can point me towards any information on what 
> the gears are, and how to use them - and any other useful information that’s 
> not covered in the manual. For example, I am experimenting with ropes, and 
> hollow ropes, but without an understand

Re: Advice needed on gear

2021-11-03 Thread Rick Hutley

Thanks Tim. Everyone are being so helpful.
Rick

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 06:40, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I totally agree with Mac on that one. I reassembled and resquared both of 
> mine once we got them home. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:51 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> Rick,
>> Welcome to The Group.  As others have stated - you have a very versatile 
>> machine.
>> My recommendation, to possibly save you some aggravation:  Get your Owner's 
>> (Assembly) Manual out and go thru it PAGE-by-PAGE from the beginning - to be 
>> sure that the previous owner(s) put it together PROPERLY!  There are several 
>> Group members that acquired their LOM - and after having "challenges" using 
>> it - discovered that a previous owner had not put it together as it should 
>> have been.
>> The time spent now will be WELL worth it.
>> Best of luck.
>> Mac
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 3, 2021 1:16 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Advice needed on gear
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Hello Rick.
>>  
>> If you could take a few photos of what you have it might be a bit easer to 
>> let you know more.
>> You should have one gear reduction, Most likely is it the standard set. YOU 
>> will (or should) have two sets of rotation control. (these sets are on a 
>> small U channel bracket set, One will have one large gear that the other 
>> will have two smaller gears. Those are for left or right handed turnings.
>>  
>> If you send some photos to the group, Please know that it must be done as an 
>> attachment to a e-mail. and the pixel limit is small. 
>>  
>> The Legacy is a very good machine, but please know that there is a learning 
>> curve of sorts, that needs to be learned.  So I recommend to "Play" with 
>> your machine a lot before you try to make anything for real. Use "Free 
>> Wood", junk wood, scraps, or even fire wood, This way you can get the feel 
>> of what you are doing with out the fear of ruining a piece of good wood. 
>>  
>> I am also adding some more good info. that will help you out. the rotation 
>> is something that many do not think much about. but it is important to know.
>>  
>> Please feel free to ask and or add any info you can to help you understand 
>> and use what you have. The Legacy is a unique machine, It has its quarks, 
>> but it is one of the most used pieces of equipment that I use in my shop.
>>  
>> As an out side question, Do you own a wood lathe? I find the Legacy and the 
>> Lathe work very well together. 
>>  
>> that's enough for now. Have a good night.
>>  
>> C.A.G.
>>  
>> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 12:42:00 AM EDT, Rick Hutley 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Many thanks Curt - this is VERY useful. I’m not sure which gear sets I have, 
>> but I can tell you that, in addition to the 3 gears installed on the make (2 
>> large ones and a smaller one connected to the crank handle) I have a further 
>> 6 gears of various sizes, and 5 gears with holes in - which I assign are 
>> indexing gears.
>>  
>> I don’t have any videos so, the links you provide are, again, very helpful. 
>> Using the information you have provided I will play around. From what I can 
>> see from this group, I should be able to come up to speed quickly.
>>  
>> I would love to win one of your indexing heads so, I will post as often as I 
>> can …. but only when I have something constructive to add. I don’t want to 
>> clog-up the groups email just for the sake of it. If there are any topics I 
>> can help with that others may find interesting, please let me know (BTW - my 
>> background is in computing, computer programming, robotics, etc.)
>>  
>> Many thanks for your swift response, and great help Curt.
>>  
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Hey Rick
>> Let me also say, or ask? what get sets you have? legacy make 3 different 
>> sets, the standard set and two others, If you see on the chart I sent you. 
>> the idea is to match the drive gear to the chart, this is a easy reference. 
>> the idea of a pitch, is how far you have to move over a spindle diameter to 
>> make a full rotation.  
>> So If you use an "A"

Re: Advice needed on gear

2021-11-03 Thread Rick Hutley

Good advice!  Thanks
Rick

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 01:51, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> 
> 
> Rick,
> Welcome to The Group.  As others have stated - you have a very versatile 
> machine.
> My recommendation, to possibly save you some aggravation:  Get your Owner's 
> (Assembly) Manual out and go thru it PAGE-by-PAGE from the beginning - to be 
> sure that the previous owner(s) put it together PROPERLY!  There are several 
> Group members that acquired their LOM - and after having "challenges" using 
> it - discovered that a previous owner had not put it together as it should 
> have been.
> The time spent now will be WELL worth it.
> Best of luck.
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 3, 2021 1:16 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Advice needed on gear
> 
>  
>  
> Hello Rick.
>  
> If you could take a few photos of what you have it might be a bit easer to 
> let you know more.
> You should have one gear reduction, Most likely is it the standard set. YOU 
> will (or should) have two sets of rotation control. (these sets are on a 
> small U channel bracket set, One will have one large gear that the other will 
> have two smaller gears. Those are for left or right handed turnings.
>  
> If you send some photos to the group, Please know that it must be done as an 
> attachment to a e-mail. and the pixel limit is small. 
>  
> The Legacy is a very good machine, but please know that there is a learning 
> curve of sorts, that needs to be learned.  So I recommend to "Play" with your 
> machine a lot before you try to make anything for real. Use "Free Wood", junk 
> wood, scraps, or even fire wood, This way you can get the feel of what you 
> are doing with out the fear of ruining a piece of good wood. 
>  
> I am also adding some more good info. that will help you out. the rotation is 
> something that many do not think much about. but it is important to know.
>  
> Please feel free to ask and or add any info you can to help you understand 
> and use what you have. The Legacy is a unique machine, It has its quarks, but 
> it is one of the most used pieces of equipment that I use in my shop.
>  
> As an out side question, Do you own a wood lathe? I find the Legacy and the 
> Lathe work very well together. 
>  
> that's enough for now. Have a good night.
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 12:42:00 AM EDT, Rick Hutley 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Many thanks Curt - this is VERY useful. I’m not sure which gear sets I have, 
> but I can tell you that, in addition to the 3 gears installed on the make (2 
> large ones and a smaller one connected to the crank handle) I have a further 
> 6 gears of various sizes, and 5 gears with holes in - which I assign are 
> indexing gears.
>  
> I don’t have any videos so, the links you provide are, again, very helpful. 
> Using the information you have provided I will play around. From what I can 
> see from this group, I should be able to come up to speed quickly.
>  
> I would love to win one of your indexing heads so, I will post as often as I 
> can …. but only when I have something constructive to add. I don’t want to 
> clog-up the groups email just for the sake of it. If there are any topics I 
> can help with that others may find interesting, please let me know (BTW - my 
> background is in computing, computer programming, robotics, etc.)
>  
> Many thanks for your swift response, and great help Curt.
>  
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hey Rick
> Let me also say, or ask? what get sets you have? legacy make 3 different 
> sets, the standard set and two others, If you see on the chart I sent you. 
> the idea is to match the drive gear to the chart, this is a easy reference. 
> the idea of a pitch, is how far you have to move over a spindle diameter to 
> make a full rotation.  
> So If you use an "A" gear you will move 2" for one full rotation, according 
> to the chart.  
> Now this is only 1/2 of the story. you also have to think of how many starts 
> you will need to fill in your rope.  To make this easy, lets say you have a 
> 1" spindle, and you are using a 1" roping bit. 
> Most roped cuts looks best with 3 or 4 starts, If you use a 2" pitch it will 
> look more like an all-thread rod.(to fine of a pitch.) so with my rule of 
> thumb 3-4 time the diameter of the spindle looks best.
> So On a 1" spindle a "B" or "C" gear, should look good.
>  
> Legacy's method for cutting is to make your first cut, reverse the machine 
> back to the beginning. then move t

Re: Router Extension

2021-11-03 Thread Rick Hutley

Hi Jed,

I’m new too. I just located this webpage with a whole bunch of PDFs of manuals 
and charts, etc. that you may find useful:

https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/manuals/

Rick

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 18:49, clif...@msn.com  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
>  I have had this Legacy Mill for a couple of years and now I'm in the 
> process of figuring out how to actually use it.  It did come with a manual, 
> but I am unable to locate it.  I'm sure it will turn up soon.
>  The project I have in mind is just some simple tapered legs.  The piece 
> of wood in the mill is just a test.  The first problem I encountered is the 
> router bit does not seem to be long enough to get down into the wood to make 
> the shape I wanted.  In the stuff I received with the mill is a 1/2" collet, 
> but that is the only piece I have.  I'm asking if that is how you extend your 
> bits to get them lower.  I bought a router bit extension from Amazon, but 
> when installed it makes a lot of racket.  Actually doesn't seem like the 
> safest idea.
> 
> So the first picture is the mill, the second picture is the router extension 
> with big, and the third is the collet that came with the mill.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Jed
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Re: Advice needed on gear

2021-11-02 Thread Rick Hutley

Many thanks Curt - this is VERY useful. I’m not sure which gear sets I have, 
but I can tell you that, in addition to the 3 gears installed on the make (2 
large ones and a smaller one connected to the crank handle) I have a further 6 
gears of various sizes, and 5 gears with holes in - which I assign are indexing 
gears.

I don’t have any videos so, the links you provide are, again, very helpful. 
Using the information you have provided I will play around. From what I can see 
from this group, I should be able to come up to speed quickly.

I would love to win one of your indexing heads so, I will post as often as I 
can …. but only when I have something constructive to add. I don’t want to 
clog-up the groups email just for the sake of it. If there are any topics I can 
help with that others may find interesting, please let me know (BTW - my 
background is in computing, computer programming, robotics, etc.)

Many thanks for your swift response, and great help Curt.

Rick


> On Nov 2, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Rick
> Let me also say, or ask? what get sets you have? legacy make 3 different 
> sets, the standard set and two others, If you see on the chart I sent you. 
> the idea is to match the drive gear to the chart, this is a easy reference. 
> the idea of a pitch, is how far you have to move over a spindle diameter to 
> make a full rotation.  
> So If you use an "A" gear you will move 2" for one full rotation, according 
> to the chart.  
> Now this is only 1/2 of the story. you also have to think of how many starts 
> you will need to fill in your rope.  To make this easy, lets say you have a 
> 1" spindle, and you are using a 1" roping bit. 
> Most roped cuts looks best with 3 or 4 starts, If you use a 2" pitch it will 
> look more like an all-thread rod.(to fine of a pitch.) so with my rule of 
> thumb 3-4 time the diameter of the spindle looks best.
> So On a 1" spindle a "B" or "C" gear, should look good.
> 
> Legacy's method for cutting is to make your first cut, reverse the machine 
> back to the beginning. then move the carriage forward the spacing you want.  
> then lock in the carriage onto the acme screw, then reverse it back to the 
> starting point and cut again. then repeat until you have cut your wanted 
> number of cuts.
> 
> Now the funny thing on this topic. is I/We are offering two sets of a proto 
> type indexing head that make roping much simpler.  All you have to do it post 
> to the group. the two people who have the most postings to the group this 
> month, will win a roping index and 4 index plates.
> So your timing is very good. Day 2 of this contest. and you have one posting. 
> ;-)
> Feel free to post and ask as many questions as you can.
> 
> talk to you more latter.
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
> C.A.G.
> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 08:34:13 AM EDT, Rick Hutley 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I am new to the Legacy mill (I just obtained a 900 unit) and this group - 
> thanks for letting me join. While I have the manual that tells me how to put 
> the machine together, it gives no information on what all the gears mean - or 
> how to interpret the gear emblem on the end of the unit (the one showing the 
> A, B, …. circles). I’ve searched online but cannot find any information on 
> how to use the gears, and when I called Legacy they simply said they don’t 
> support the ornamental mills anymore and were of no help at all!
> 
> I am hoping someone in the group can point me towards any information on what 
> the gears are, and how to use them - and any other useful information that’s 
> not covered in the manual. For example, I am experimenting with ropes, and 
> hollow ropes, but without an understanding of the gears etc. it’s hard to 
> know how to use this sophisticated and flexible machine.
> 
> Many thanks
> Rick
> 
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Advice needed on gears

2021-11-02 Thread Rick Hutley


Folks,

I am new to the Legacy mill (I just obtained a 900 unit) and this group - 
thanks for letting me join. While I have the manual that tells me how to 
put the machine together, it gives no information on what all the gears 
mean - or how to interpret the gear emblem on the end of the unit (the one 
showing the A, B, …. circles). I’ve searched online but cannot find any 
information on how to use the gears, and when I called Legacy they simply 
said they don’t support the ornamental mills anymore and were of no help at 
all!

I am hoping someone in the group can point me towards any information on 
what the gears are, and how to use them - and any other useful information 
that’s not covered in the manual. For example, I am experimenting with 
ropes, and hollow ropes, but without an understanding of the gears etc. 
it’s hard to know how to use this sophisticated and flexible machine.

Many thanks
Rick

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Advice needed on gear

2021-11-02 Thread Rick Hutley

Folks,

I am new to the Legacy mill (I just obtained a 900 unit) and this group - 
thanks for letting me join. While I have the manual that tells me how to put 
the machine together, it gives no information on what all the gears mean - or 
how to interpret the gear emblem on the end of the unit (the one showing the A, 
B, …. circles). I’ve searched online but cannot find any information on how to 
use the gears, and when I called Legacy they simply said they don’t support the 
ornamental mills anymore and were of no help at all!

I am hoping someone in the group can point me towards any information on what 
the gears are, and how to use them - and any other useful information that’s 
not covered in the manual. For example, I am experimenting with ropes, and 
hollow ropes, but without an understanding of the gears etc. it’s hard to know 
how to use this sophisticated and flexible machine.

Many thanks
Rick

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