Re: Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

Good answers Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 9:22 AM  wrote:

> 1/32 runout is not enough to worry about, when its together and you slip
> the gear on the shaft the slop in the shaft is most likely much more than
> 1/32 way out on the outer dia of the gear anyway, legacy gears are made to
> have some slop in them for when you lower one end for milling tapers. the
> mill is not like a wood lathe
>
> The gears spin fairly slowly the router bit is what spins at high speed so
> a small amount of gear runout is usually not a problem, when you mesh the
> gears together when engaging them you hold them fully meshed but lightly
> holding them in place as you tighten the cap screw holding them really hard
> as you tighten the cap screw can cause all sorts of binding problems just
> as not meshing the gears enough and having them too sloppy can cause the
> teeth to slip witch causes your spirals if your milling them to not turn
> out right lightly fully meshed is just right in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Janoch
> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2024 1:28 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200
>
>
>
> Thanks for all of the suggestions!
>
>
>
> I had originally thought that the issue was with the gear, because I could
> get it to rock on a verified flat surface.  If bent I don't think it could
> be straightened however, because the variance (wobble?) was only about
> 1/32" or so.  Enough to cause it to wander in the direction gear, but not
> so significant as to be completely misaligned and "forced" to keep it in
> alignment.
>
>
>
> Honestly, I hadn't thought much about the screws seating the gear
> (Sometimes you miss the simple) -- there could be a burr (or crud) around
> one of the holes that could be causing the extra play.  I'll try polishing
> both the duplex gear and the mating surface of the smaller gear to see if
> that makes a difference.
>
>
>
> Gear picture as requested is attached.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> -- Chris J.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> yes and show a picture of it so we know if its a newer style or
> the smaller tooth. (old style)
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> If you can’t flatten the Standard Index gear perfectly perhaps one of the
> members has a spare they might sell and you could just simply replace it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Janoch
> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2024 7:54 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200
>
>
>
> Hello everyone -- quick gearing question:
>
>
>
> As I have been working on resurrecting and tuning up my Legacy 1200, I
> have noticed a slight bend in the Standard Index gear.  Not enough that it
> no longer meshes, but enough that it rubs on the Directional Gear sides at
> every revolution.  It's workable, but as I am looking to motorize the mill
> I'm concerned that speed and use may add additional wear to the directional
> gears, or will add instability (and friction) to the milling process.
>
>
>
> Did anyone ever map out a DXF file for the duplex gear that could be 3D
> Printed or laser cut? I know that the different drive gears were drawn out
> a while back.
>
>
>
> Do you think I could get away with bolting on a stabilizing disk to the
> outside of the duplex gear in an attempt to flatten it? Or would that
> interfere with different gearing combinations?
>
>
>
> Any other possible thoughts? Or am I overthinking this for a woodworking
> machine?  :-)
>
>
>
> Thanks --
>
>
>
> Chris J.
>
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Re: Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

you can definitely see that the points of contact were not even. So yeah
could be a very simple fix.
My suggestions of course were based on if it truly was bent.
So let's hope you have a quick and easy solution.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:01 AM Christopher Janoch  wrote:

> Thanks for all of the suggestions!
>
> I had originally thought that the issue was with the gear, because I could
> get it to rock on a verified flat surface.  If bent I don't think it could
> be straightened however, because the variance (wobble?) was only about
> 1/32" or so.  Enough to cause it to wander in the direction gear, but not
> so significant as to be completely misaligned and "forced" to keep it in
> alignment.
>
> Honestly, I hadn't thought much about the screws seating the gear
> (Sometimes you miss the simple) -- there could be a burr (or crud) around
> one of the holes that could be causing the extra play.  I'll try polishing
> both the duplex gear and the mating surface of the smaller gear to see if
> that makes a difference.
>
> Gear picture as requested is attached.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -- Chris J.
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> yes and show a picture of it so we know if its a newer style or
>> the smaller tooth. (old style)
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> If you can’t flatten the Standard Index gear perfectly perhaps one of
>>> the members has a spare they might sell and you could just simply replace it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
>>> Janoch
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2024 7:54 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone -- quick gearing question:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I have been working on resurrecting and tuning up my Legacy 1200, I
>>> have noticed a slight bend in the Standard Index gear.  Not enough that it
>>> no longer meshes, but enough that it rubs on the Directional Gear sides at
>>> every revolution.  It's workable, but as I am looking to motorize the mill
>>> I'm concerned that speed and use may add additional wear to the directional
>>> gears, or will add instability (and friction) to the milling process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did anyone ever map out a DXF file for the duplex gear that could be 3D
>>> Printed or laser cut? I know that the different drive gears were drawn out
>>> a while back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think I could get away with bolting on a stabilizing disk to the
>>> outside of the duplex gear in an attempt to flatten it? Or would that
>>> interfere with different gearing combinations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any other possible thoughts? Or am I overthinking this for a woodworking
>>> machine?  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris J.
>>>
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Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mac,

So the part remained stationary and I moved the router carriage the length
of the piece. I did this in climb cutting so
of course one has to make sure to hang on and not let the carriage take
off. Once I did one side I flipped the piece around and
routed from the same side again. This was the simplest and least amount of
set up time.
I did not have any chipping and this was hickory. I will add the btm "T"
using the table saw.
Hope that answered all the questions?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 11:52 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
>
>
> Nice - thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> When "milling the board:
>
> 1.  Did you keep the router stationary - and pass the board thru the
> cutter?
>
> Or, with the cutter all the way to one end, did you position the board,
> run the gantry down the x-axis, lift cutter, reposition the board, and make
> second pass down board.  Then repeat as needed to complete it?
>
>
>
> Since you actually cut the board going in one direction, then cut the
> other edge going in the other direction, you had to have run into grain
> direction challenges.  How'd you work around them?
>
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Mac
> --
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Aug 1, 2024 10:10 PM
> To: LOM Group , Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM
>
>
> Good evening,
>
> Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today.
> I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on
> my  1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet.
> And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage.
> So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping
> down being I was running Hickory.
> I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then
> flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required.
> The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is
> the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits
> which I will do on the table saw.
> The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice.
> I just end for ended it.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
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Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill, Yes I have the moulding table but I only had 10 ft to run. One 8
ft piece and a 2 ft piece.
I also have a large mdf platform I made up for it that works real well, but
then need double back
tape on it.
this moulding is not complete as it will be a "T" style moulding after I do
the rabbits on the btm side.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 10:20 PM  wrote:

> Very nice Tim so you do own the  moulding table then I don’t have mine set
> up I need a mill for it so I can leave it set up lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2024 12:10 PM
> *To:* LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM
>
>
>
> Good evening,
>
>
>
> Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today.
>
> I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on
>
> my  1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet.
>
> And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage.
>
> So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping
>
> down being I was running Hickory.
>
> I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then
>
> flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required.
>
> The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is
>
> the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits
>
> which I will do on the table saw.
>
> The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice.
>
> I just end for ended it.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt. all in a days work lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Nice job Tim!
> Keep up the good  work.   ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2024 at 10:10:07 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good evening,
>
> Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today.
> I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on
> my  1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet.
> And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage.
> So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping
> down being I was running Hickory.
> I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then
> flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required.
> The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is
> the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits
> which I will do on the table saw.
> The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice.
> I just end for ended it.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

yes and show a picture of it so we know if its a newer style or the smaller
tooth. (old style)
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:

> If you can’t flatten the Standard Index gear perfectly perhaps one of the
> members has a spare they might sell and you could just simply replace it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Janoch
> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2024 7:54 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200
>
>
>
> Hello everyone -- quick gearing question:
>
>
>
> As I have been working on resurrecting and tuning up my Legacy 1200, I
> have noticed a slight bend in the Standard Index gear.  Not enough that it
> no longer meshes, but enough that it rubs on the Directional Gear sides at
> every revolution.  It's workable, but as I am looking to motorize the mill
> I'm concerned that speed and use may add additional wear to the directional
> gears, or will add instability (and friction) to the milling process.
>
>
>
> Did anyone ever map out a DXF file for the duplex gear that could be 3D
> Printed or laser cut? I know that the different drive gears were drawn out
> a while back.
>
>
>
> Do you think I could get away with bolting on a stabilizing disk to the
> outside of the duplex gear in an attempt to flatten it? Or would that
> interfere with different gearing combinations?
>
>
>
> Any other possible thoughts? Or am I overthinking this for a woodworking
> machine?  :-)
>
>
>
> Thanks --
>
>
>
> Chris J.
>
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Re: Side Cutting a Tapered Spiral?

[Tim Ziegler]

Good stuff.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:38 PM  wrote:

> I have had a tilting Z axis for years and have never had a need for it to
> tilt on the Y axis only on the X I cant think of any reason I would need it
> to do so
>
> Accept perhaps milling flat stock if the planning bit was not perfectly
> flat and is leaving marks, but shimming the router usually fixes that
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Janoch
> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2024 7:41 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Side Cutting a Tapered Spiral?
>
>
>
> Hello everyone -- long time lurker, first time poster.
>
>
>
> I'm currently fixing up a Legacy 1200 that has languished in my workshop
> for about 5 years -- all while I have been hanging out here and learning as
> much about it as I can.
>
>
>
> After using it a bit with some success, I am now working to clean,
> stabilize, and tweak the system to get better and cleaner cuts.  Now with
> some experience I have a few questions that I haven't seen answers for yet
> on this forum.  I'll post under different headings everyone else following
> along.
>
>
>
>
>
> After finally understanding the guidance on climb cutting (thanks Curt for
> your regular reminders), and the value of angling the router and
> approaching from the side (which Joe has been a strong advocate for).
>
> When cutting a spiral on a tapered shaft (my primary use case) however, do
> you still come at the work from the top? Or do you horizontally move the
> tailstock to keep the Y-Axis consistent for a side cut?  Which has given
> you better results?
>
> Since I'm currently re-working my Z-Axis carriage to allow for router
> tilting, I'm trying to decide if I should add enough space to rotate the
> router in both the Y-plane and X-place to achieve and angled cut from
> above or if it would be easier to relocate the tailstock.
>
>
>
> Thanks so much for the years of thoughts and advice!!
>
>
>
> -- Chris J.
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Re: Side Cutting a Tapered Spiral?

[Tim Ziegler]

Well Welcome Chris it is great to hear some new voices out there that are
still interested in keeping the LOM's
alive and active.
We hope to hear more from you in the future.
Again Welcome.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
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On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 6:53 PM Christopher Janoch  wrote:

> Hello everyone -- long time lurker, first time poster.
>
> I'm currently fixing up a Legacy 1200 that has languished in my workshop
> for about 5 years -- all while I have been hanging out here and learning as
> much about it as I can.
>
> After using it a bit with some success, I am now working to clean,
> stabilize, and tweak the system to get better and cleaner cuts.  Now with
> some experience I have a few questions that I haven't seen answers for yet
> on this forum.  I'll post under different headings everyone else following
> along.
>
>
> After finally understanding the guidance on climb cutting (thanks Curt for
> your regular reminders), and the value of angling the router and
> approaching from the side (which Joe has been a strong advocate for).
>
> When cutting a spiral on a tapered shaft (my primary use case) however, do
> you still come at the work from the top? Or do you horizontally move the
> tailstock to keep the Y-Axis consistent for a side cut?  Which has given
> you better results?
>
> Since I'm currently re-working my Z-Axis carriage to allow for router
> tilting, I'm trying to decide if I should add enough space to rotate the
> router in both the Y-plane and X-place to achieve and angled cut from
> above or if it would be easier to relocate the tailstock.
>
> Thanks so much for the years of thoughts and advice!!
>
> -- Chris J.
>
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Re: Bent Duplex Gear - Legacy 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Chris,

Do you have a machine shop nearby that could possibly press it flat?
Other thoughts would be taking it to a blade sharpening company that could
possibly Hammer it flat
like they do saw blades.
The other alternative is to order new ones from Cindy at Legacy
WoodWorking.
Kind Regards,

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 6:53 PM Christopher Janoch  wrote:

> Hello everyone -- quick gearing question:
>
> As I have been working on resurrecting and tuning up my Legacy 1200, I
> have noticed a slight bend in the Standard Index gear.  Not enough that it
> no longer meshes, but enough that it rubs on the Directional Gear sides at
> every revolution.  It's workable, but as I am looking to motorize the mill
> I'm concerned that speed and use may add additional wear to the directional
> gears, or will add instability (and friction) to the milling process.
>
> Did anyone ever map out a DXF file for the duplex gear that could be 3D
> Printed or laser cut? I know that the different drive gears were drawn out
> a while back.
>
> Do you think I could get away with bolting on a stabilizing disk to the
> outside of the duplex gear in an attempt to flatten it? Or would that
> interfere with different gearing combinations?
>
> Any other possible thoughts? Or am I overthinking this for a woodworking
> machine?  :-)
>
> Thanks --
>
> Chris J.
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Re: rotary table

[Tim Ziegler]

Hi Jeff,

I was told by Cindy herself you can get metal replacement gears through
McMaster Carr.
I have not actually looked them up but I'd start there.

Kind Regards,

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 6:53 PM Jeff Hood  wrote:

> i have a rotary table with stripped out nylon gears. does anyone know of
> replacement gears would prefer metal gears.
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Re: square spirals

[Tim Ziegler]

Sounds good Ed,
I wish you the best on your endeavor for sure.
If you have any questions at all feel free to ask. Lots of good advice and
knowledge on this site.

Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:46 AM Ed Trevillian  wrote:

> Thank you Tim. I will figure it out. Plus I converted the vhs tutorials to
> dvd. And I'm pretty sure I have the manual. I hope to get to it in less
> than 3 or 6 months.
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 9:41 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Hey Ed,
>>
>> Thanks for keeping the discussion going. As for a machinist, that would
>> be more Bill.
>> He was a machinist for many years. I was a tooling tech for 20 of my 27
>> years at WoodCraft Industries.
>> I can do a lot of different things, and have some basic metal equipment.
>> My brother is the machinist in the
>> family and had helped me with some of my projects.
>> I wish you were closer. Some of us could help you get your machine put
>> together. do you have the manual
>> for it? If not we can get one. Some one had some recently so let us know
>> if we can help you in any way.
>> I'm going to post my pen that I finally got to turn today, so I better
>> get going. More later Sir.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 7:52 AM Ed Trevillian  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> Thanks for reaching back to me. I bought a 1500 (?) that the original
>>> owner never unpacked. I retired 5 yrs ago, downsized our home & built a new
>>> shop at new place. I am still in final phases of putting it together (1300
>>> sf) with all sorts of tools for metal, woodwork & granite. (I have no
>>> experience as a machinist, as I believe you do. I have yet to unpack the
>>> LOM. BUT, I expect to very soon. (I've been saying that for 2 yrs). I will
>>> get there. I enjoy reading the posts by you and the few other active folks
>>> here.
>>> I admire the work of you & the others.
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 9:47 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Ed,
>>>>
>>>> Is this something you have for your machine?
>>>> What machine do you have?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 8:03 AM Ed Trevillian  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Impressive !!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 2:42 AM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Its been a bit slow on here lately so here is a video I did a while
>>>>>> back but never did upload shows snippets of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Making my rotary cross slide so I can mill square spirals I would not
>>>>>> recommend trying this unless you have experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In engineering metal working. Hope you enjoy
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/2CbhNxbl-EQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
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Re: Motor Drive for LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah good stuff.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 4:34 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> EXCELLENT video!
>
> I am sure a number of "lurkers" (and some "regulars") will learn a lot
> from your videos.Thank you for sharing!
>
> Mac
>
>
> --
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 28, 2024 3:18 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Motor Drive for LOM
>
>
>
> Ps here is a video on milling a spindle on the legacy
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZrQhmNmlqU=354s_channel=aussiman77181
>
> It shows all different ways of turning wood including with drive motors.
> It’s done using a legacy revo mill which just like the normal mills but
> with one side removed which makes it easier to film and for people to see
> what your doing
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2024 4:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Motor Drive for LOM
>
>
>
> Looks like you have done a fine job making your own drive motor the only
> problem with that type of motor for me is the reduction gear is a worm
> drive and not strait gears they don’t let you turn the leadscrew by hand
> for fine adjustments or creeping up to a stop without disconnecting it  is
> more difficult than relying just on the limit switch. The Chinese speed
> control work ok they just don’t last a long long time like the legacy one
> do I have 2 on head stock motors. Also the legacy motor they use is a 90
> volt DC which runs at 0 to 112 rpm if I remember i can look it up if anyone
> wants. But hey if its all working ok and your totally happy with it great
> and best of all so much cheaper
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Wayne Oldenburg
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2024 1:50 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Motor Drive for LOM
>
>
>
> I am new to this group and have enjoyed various discussions.  I have
> noticed that a few people would like a motor drive for their mill, but they
> are expensive and hard to find.  I built a motor drive for my LOM at a cost
> of less than $200.   I am attaching a document that explains what I did.  I
> hope it will help some of you.  I would also welcome improvements that you
> may see.
>
>
>
> I am new to posting so I hope this woks.  If not, you can email me
> directly.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Rounding the pen blank on the REVO

[Tim Ziegler]

Thank you Sir.
Much appreciate it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 7:23 AM Ccm Ccm  wrote:

> Nice
>
> On Saturday, July 27, 2024, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Well I finished the Pen and I must say I am happy.
>> I have a 10 coat CA pen finish followed by wet sanding up to 12,000 grit,
>> then a 3 step wax polish finish.
>> I must say I was pretty pleased with the finish. Please see pix below.
>> Look close at the grain patterns that is why I have extra pix.
>>  Questions and comments are welcome.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Just played around yesterday eve. for a very short time.
>>> But it was LOM time so that was great.
>>> Here I have a Stabilized Hard Maple Burl and I decided to round down a
>>> bit on the Revo before turning it on the lathe.
>>> It is going to be a beautiful pen. I would have had it done,
>>> but I did not have both bushings to match for size.
>>> I hope by the end of the week they will come in, then I can
>>> finish turning the pen. Stay tuned if that works out.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
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Re: Motor Drive for LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Wayne, great. Thanks for posting. Great idea too.
Thanks for sharing your information.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 12:35 AM Wayne Oldenburg 
wrote:

> I am new to this group and have enjoyed various discussions.  I have
> noticed that a few people would like a motor drive for their mill, but they
> are expensive and hard to find.  I built a motor drive for my LOM at a cost
> of less than $200.   I am attaching a document that explains what I did.  I
> hope it will help some of you.  I would also welcome improvements that you
> may see.
>
> I am new to posting so I hope this woks.  If not, you can email me
> directly.
>
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Re: Rounding the pen blank on the REVO

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill. Was lots of fun to turn as well.

Tim

On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 9:18 PM  wrote:

> What can you say wow doesn’t seem enough well done buddy
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2024 12:05 PM
> *To:* LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Rounding the pen blank on the REVO
>
>
>
> Well I finished the Pen and I must say I am happy.
>
> I have a 10 coat CA pen finish followed by wet sanding up to 12,000 grit,
>
> then a 3 step wax polish finish.
>
> I must say I was pretty pleased with the finish. Please see pix below.
>
> Look close at the grain patterns that is why I have extra pix.
>
>  Questions and comments are welcome.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
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> 320-630-2243 cell
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>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> Just played around yesterday eve. for a very short time.
>
> But it was LOM time so that was great.
>
> Here I have a Stabilized Hard Maple Burl and I decided to round down a
>
> bit on the Revo before turning it on the lathe.
>
> It is going to be a beautiful pen. I would have had it done,
>
> but I did not have both bushings to match for size.
>
> I hope by the end of the week they will come in, then I can
>
> finish turning the pen. Stay tuned if that works out.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
>
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Re: Rounding the pen blank on the REVO

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Denson.
Always fun too

Tim

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 2:12 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Great job!! Love the finish.
> Denson
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Jul 28, 2024, at 7:23 AM, Ccm Ccm  wrote:
>
> Nice
>
> On Saturday, July 27, 2024, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Well I finished the Pen and I must say I am happy.
>> I have a 10 coat CA pen finish followed by wet sanding up to 12,000 grit,
>> then a 3 step wax polish finish.
>> I must say I was pretty pleased with the finish. Please see pix below.
>> Look close at the grain patterns that is why I have extra pix.
>>  Questions and comments are welcome.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Just played around yesterday eve. for a very short time.
>>> But it was LOM time so that was great.
>>> Here I have a Stabilized Hard Maple Burl and I decided to round down a
>>> bit on the Revo before turning it on the lathe.
>>> It is going to be a beautiful pen. I would have had it done,
>>> but I did not have both bushings to match for size.
>>> I hope by the end of the week they will come in, then I can
>>> finish turning the pen. Stay tuned if that works out.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
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Re: square spirals

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Ed,

Thanks for keeping the discussion going. As for a machinist, that would be
more Bill.
He was a machinist for many years. I was a tooling tech for 20 of my 27
years at WoodCraft Industries.
I can do a lot of different things, and have some basic metal equipment. My
brother is the machinist in the
family and had helped me with some of my projects.
I wish you were closer. Some of us could help you get your machine put
together. do you have the manual
for it? If not we can get one. Some one had some recently so let us know if
we can help you in any way.
I'm going to post my pen that I finally got to turn today, so I better get
going. More later Sir.













Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 7:52 AM Ed Trevillian  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> Thanks for reaching back to me. I bought a 1500 (?) that the original
> owner never unpacked. I retired 5 yrs ago, downsized our home & built a new
> shop at new place. I am still in final phases of putting it together (1300
> sf) with all sorts of tools for metal, woodwork & granite. (I have no
> experience as a machinist, as I believe you do. I have yet to unpack the
> LOM. BUT, I expect to very soon. (I've been saying that for 2 yrs). I will
> get there. I enjoy reading the posts by you and the few other active folks
> here.
> I admire the work of you & the others.
> Ed
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 9:47 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Hey Ed,
>>
>> Is this something you have for your machine?
>> What machine do you have?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 8:03 AM Ed Trevillian  wrote:
>>
>>> Impressive !!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 2:42 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its been a bit slow on here lately so here is a video I did a while
>>>> back but never did upload shows snippets of
>>>>
>>>> Making my rotary cross slide so I can mill square spirals I would not
>>>> recommend trying this unless you have experience
>>>>
>>>> In engineering metal working. Hope you enjoy
>>>> https://youtu.be/2CbhNxbl-EQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
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Re: square spirals

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Ed,

Is this something you have for your machine?
What machine do you have?


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 8:03 AM Ed Trevillian  wrote:

> Impressive !!
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 2:42 AM  wrote:
>
>> Its been a bit slow on here lately so here is a video I did a while back
>> but never did upload shows snippets of
>>
>> Making my rotary cross slide so I can mill square spirals I would not
>> recommend trying this unless you have experience
>>
>> In engineering metal working. Hope you enjoy https://youtu.be/2CbhNxbl-EQ
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
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Re: square spirals

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow Bill,

What an awesome video. Well put together too. Very impressed in how you
designing it to work just as
the Table on the WoodChuck does. And your's is much more beefy. The table I
have is rigid and solid but
using the Aluminum plating you did really looks great. The locking device
is also superior to the table I have.
I have to reach underneath and loosen small wing nuts.
absolutely great workmanship Bill.
You also should be able to machine louvers into smaller parts if that was
ever a need.
thanks for sharing.
Hey Guys & Gals, any feedback would be great. This is an Awesome mod.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 1:42 AM  wrote:

> Its been a bit slow on here lately so here is a video I did a while back
> but never did upload shows snippets of
>
> Making my rotary cross slide so I can mill square spirals I would not
> recommend trying this unless you have experience
>
> In engineering metal working. Hope you enjoy https://youtu.be/2CbhNxbl-EQ
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: FLASH SALE!

[Tim Ziegler]

Hello all,
Yes the negative rack truly does work night and day different the regular
rake. Great feed back Bill.
Yes I would like to hear from others as well.

Tim

On Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 6:45 PM  wrote:

> Yes both companies make very nice tools and for those who want to try
> turning acrylic type materials both have those loverly
>
> Negative rake inserts for all their tools making turning these types of
> materials so much easier to turn and they also work well
>
> On smoothing up timbers too just my humble opinion on all this I am far
> from being an expert on wood lathe turning
>
> But carbide I think is defiantly easier to master than traditional tools
> and very little sharpening skills needed also.
>
> If anybody out there has any other opinions on all this please enlighten
> us like I said I’m no expert
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2024 5:40 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: FLASH SALE!
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Thanks so much for your input on this great sale. Yes they truly are a
> great set of turning tools.
>
> Also appreciate the other insite of other tool companies. I will for sure
> look into these.
>
> I hope others have had a chance to check this sale and yours out as well.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 11:49 AM  wrote:
>
> I use easywood tools too but I have all I need right now, I also use
> simple tools too https://www.simplewoodturningtools.com/ they had a sale
> on too but I think it might be over now
>
> I particularly like their large carbide scrapers
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvU8c4SpHdY_channel=KerryHarrison I
> have all 4 models fitted with both positive and negative rake inserts watch
> all the videos to see easywood doesn’t have anything like them.
>
> But I think easywood hallowers are the best out there for average
> hollowing thanks Tim for telling us about the easywood sale good to know I
> might just grab a few inserts I always need them.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2024 8:45 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Fwd: FLASH SALE!
>
>
>
> I know several of you turn on a lathe as well as our LOM's  and thought
> you may be interested in this sale.
>
> Easy Wood Tools are great. I use several of them.
>
> Great tools.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *Easy Wood Tools* 
> Date: Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 11:00 PM
> Subject: FLASH SALE!
> To: 
>
>
>
> OPEN FOR SALE DETAILS & OTHER INFO
>
>
> <https://g8e9oddab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001WMaPkL6dM1luLp1DhcRRyKvD6qsKKjATOP016cKd--dpK3BTr9pIxNbSIskwzp-diM7KKxQhSKfCYyBWKm59hX_bigVEod3pLoX7XrtU2J7teg_QEgkaT75oqENBQVEVJp63ZuxfSsDHlq22zZc8i9nN5_San0Fr=ew0qtk4nDZCzsfGV9Dj3-IYTyQoeBr1rUpRKzSO2GUdNyDckNYOLvA===Kl_jhLn-RYEYBGBMPuA_3Y37eASO6wX_a37pwYcBI3Dv5qeh9XKrpQ==>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *JULY 2024*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *STARTING JULY 25TH THROUGH JULY 28TH, WE WILL BE RUNNING A FLASH SALE
> WHERE YOU CAN GET ALL TURNING TOOLS AND CARBIDE CUTTERS **20% OFF!*
>
>
>
>
>
> *SHOP NOW*
> <https://g8e9oddab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001WMaPkL6dM1luLp1DhcRRyKvD6qsKKjATOP016cKd--dpK3BTr9pIxCpZfbnketnP40f7GKiE5OInSRw3ilBPPbXd7gfqpOVL1hszeic54B839XP5lcN-Uxf0nl7AGUtY36g5IgECCrQWgUte_kqz8LfW11onn6xL2Wy5fJsIyp7q4VwQcIA1tA===ew0qtk4nDZCzsfGV9Dj3-IYTyQoeBr1rUpRKzSO2GUdNyDckNYOLvA===Kl_jhLn-RYEYBGBMPuA_3Y37eASO6wX_a37pwYcBI3Dv5qeh9XKrpQ==>
>
>
>
> *Offer valid ONLY direct from Easy Wood Tools at **easywoodtools.com*
>

Re: Router bits for sale

[Tim Ziegler]

understandable for sure
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 6:00 AM  wrote:

> Yep that’s it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2024 8:54 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Router bits for sale
>
>
>
> oh I hear you Bill. Price is great but the shipping would hurt to bad.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 10:39 PM  wrote:
>
> I would love them all but as usual the expense rules me out
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2024 12:50 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Router bits for sale
>
>
>
> Here is something we all could use.
>
> Please check this link out and reach out. Its an estate sale.
>
> She has lots of router bits. and one great price.
>
> This lady has the daunting task of selling her cousins tools and items
> after
>
> he passed away.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/VJo8KTRaUxtEvP6F/
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Router bits for sale

[Tim Ziegler]

oh I hear you Bill. Price is great but the shipping would hurt to bad.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 10:39 PM  wrote:

> I would love them all but as usual the expense rules me out
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2024 12:50 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Router bits for sale
>
>
>
> Here is something we all could use.
>
> Please check this link out and reach out. Its an estate sale.
>
> She has lots of router bits. and one great price.
>
> This lady has the daunting task of selling her cousins tools and items
> after
>
> he passed away.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/VJo8KTRaUxtEvP6F/
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
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Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00

[Tim Ziegler]

For sure Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 9:45 PM  wrote:

> We each work to whatever set of skills we accumulate over time it would be
> a very boring place if we were all the same
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2024 6:19 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
>
> Good input Bill, lol I don't do well in other languages either so I
> guess I will stay where I am at.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:14 AM  wrote:
>
> I had the unique experience in my life of working for an American company
> here in oz years ago for over 20 years now because living in a metric
> country on a daily bases I worked in both metric and imperial depending on
> what job I had to make for which ever country it went to. we never
> converted sizes we just worked in whatever was needed on the blue prints so
> with tape measures,  rulers or micrometres either in feet, inches,
> thousands of an inch , hundredths of a millimetre, millimetres, centimetres
> or meters it was all the same to me and still is.so don’t try and convert
> just think in both I guess its sort of like being able to speak 2 different
> languages.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2024 8:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
>
> Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of
> the brain more than 45 years ago. lol.
>
> I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench
> sometimes from my wrench set
>
> to twin up with 3/4.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
>
>
> I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago!
>
> Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes to
> measurements - length, volume, weight, etc.
>
> Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!)
>
>
>
> If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at least
> half a brain - they build in metric.
>
> The math is SO MUCH EASIER!
>
>
>
> Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just
> ONE project using metric measurements.
>
> You won't go back!
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
>
> Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid it
> like the plague lol.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric
> system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the
> price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings.
>
> and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap
> investment for you Legacy. ;-)
>
>
>
> OK!  Got'a run now.
>
>
>
> take care everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
> --
> --
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Guys.
>
>
>
> For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add
> linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (
> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-800mm-2xLinear-Automated-Equipments/dp/B07D9JRPG9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3O6ZOCZLMJVC

Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00

[Tim Ziegler]

Good input Bill, lol I don't do well in other languages either so I guess I
will stay where I am at.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:14 AM  wrote:

> I had the unique experience in my life of working for an American company
> here in oz years ago for over 20 years now because living in a metric
> country on a daily bases I worked in both metric and imperial depending on
> what job I had to make for which ever country it went to. we never
> converted sizes we just worked in whatever was needed on the blue prints so
> with tape measures,  rulers or micrometres either in feet, inches,
> thousands of an inch , hundredths of a millimetre, millimetres, centimetres
> or meters it was all the same to me and still is.so don’t try and convert
> just think in both I guess its sort of like being able to speak 2 different
> languages.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2024 8:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
>
> Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of
> the brain more than 45 years ago. lol.
>
> I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench
> sometimes from my wrench set
>
> to twin up with 3/4.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
>
>
> I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago!
>
> Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes to
> measurements - length, volume, weight, etc.
>
> Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!)
>
>
>
> If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at least
> half a brain - they build in metric.
>
> The math is SO MUCH EASIER!
>
>
>
> Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just
> ONE project using metric measurements.
>
> You won't go back!
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
>
> Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid it
> like the plague lol.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric
> system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the
> price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings.
>
> and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap
> investment for you Legacy. ;-)
>
>
>
> OK!  Got'a run now.
>
>
>
> take care everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
> --
> --
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Guys.
>
>
>
> For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add
> linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (
> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-800mm-2xLinear-Automated-Equipments/dp/B07D9JRPG9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3O6ZOCZLMJVC1=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5nF2kpC9e06d4Uazs8esNr37KqhEKq7OrJtMqdrmRq5LVibABLK1FpefcGGJ4Ro5vOWB2-aotUxGTiSagK_B4KBYm7aYuhsZdXN8WCaGUbf-EpPLsv4Qx0mXG9jlGRD20zjqwNxrvi4NloFWqiL7G46TSvPXcu9TLOfBqSGJl-VcE4Z71BBTJQOCYDOjD3LMP4WOXp9hV-NRtWkmgO7aIJNUJA36ETG8k2qhu9BMd5g.drP49xafjzj1fSCPD5L17zPPzIoPwFI9Q-6CJSwnomU_tag=se=16mm+linear+rail=1721476678=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C92=8-9
>  ) So
> you can make your own new, X,Y,Z axis's.
>
> The plastic gearing , although cheap  quality, compared to the steel
> Legacy gears of the other machines, are useable, for most projects.
>
> While you are at it, why not switch or add a new acme screw to your
> machine? I used a 5/8-8 on my 200 and love it, By adding a new screw you
> can double the pitches you have with the gears. Perhaps a acme screw on
> each side of the  Legacy wou

Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Ryan,

Great hearing from you. Glad they both work for you.
I am not that flexible, and maybe just a bit stubborn lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 9:14 AM RYAN JURGENS 
wrote:

> In the 1980's I started working for a German company here in the US. We
> did both metric and imperial. Over time, the metric became very easy.
>
> Now retired, I spend half of my year in southeast Asia, 220v power and
> metric measurements while there, 110v and imperial while here in the US. I
> do well with both.
>
> I pump my own gas here, they pump my gas there. I am OK with both.
>
> I use self checkouts here, they check me out there. I do well with both.
>
> We work with what we are comfortable with. And I for one will support and
> use whatever works whereever I happen to be at the time.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> Sent from AT Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers_wl=ym_sub1=Internal_sub2=Global_YGrowth_sub3=EmailSignature_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 8:54 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> Don't feel alone re: metric phobia Tim. I tried converting to metric in my
> woodshop shortly after I started in 1967, but there were too many obstacles
> and lots of conversion issues. Most of the machinery was English and most
> of the target installations were English. So to work in metric was an
> unecessary burden.  My work tolerance for most objects required at least
> three digits behind the decimal point, so rounding from say 1/2" to 13 mm
> was unacceptable. And if you use a 19 mm wrench on a 3/4" nut you will
> impose unnecessary wear on one or the other.  I've stripped round many a
> stubborn nut trying the mix and match.  Sometimes close is just not good
> enough, I don't care how much fun people make of it.  A lot of the worlds
> finest work has been done with neither English nor metric, and I've adopted
> a lot of ancient "technology" where number sticks of any sort are
> irrelevant. That's the cat's meow for me.
> DanK
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 6:55:24 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of
> the brain more than 45 years ago. lol.
> I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench
> sometimes from my wrench set
> to twin up with 3/4.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
>
>
> I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago!
>
> Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes to
> measurements - length, volume, weight, etc.
>
> Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!)
>
>
>
> If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at least
> half a brain - they build in metric.
>
> The math is SO MUCH EASIER!
>
>
>
> Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just
> ONE project using metric measurements.
>
> You won't go back!
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
> Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid it
> like the plague lol.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric
> system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the
> price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings.
> and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap
> investment for you Legacy. ;-)
>
> OK!  Got'a run now.
>
> take care everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
> --
> --
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Hey Guys.
>
> For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add
> linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (
> htt

Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Dan,

Great feedback for sure.  I figured I wasn't the only one.
Thanks
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 8:54 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Don't feel alone re: metric phobia Tim. I tried converting to metric in my
> woodshop shortly after I started in 1967, but there were too many obstacles
> and lots of conversion issues. Most of the machinery was English and most
> of the target installations were English. So to work in metric was an
> unecessary burden.  My work tolerance for most objects required at least
> three digits behind the decimal point, so rounding from say 1/2" to 13 mm
> was unacceptable. And if you use a 19 mm wrench on a 3/4" nut you will
> impose unnecessary wear on one or the other.  I've stripped round many a
> stubborn nut trying the mix and match.  Sometimes close is just not good
> enough, I don't care how much fun people make of it.  A lot of the worlds
> finest work has been done with neither English nor metric, and I've adopted
> a lot of ancient "technology" where number sticks of any sort are
> irrelevant. That's the cat's meow for me.
> DanK
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 6:55:24 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of
>> the brain more than 45 years ago. lol.
>> I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench
>> sometimes from my wrench set
>> to twin up with 3/4.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago!
>>>
>>> Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes
>>> to measurements - length, volume, weight, etc.
>>>
>>> Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at
>>> least half a brain - they build in metric.
>>>
>>> The math is SO MUCH EASIER!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just
>>> ONE project using metric measurements.
>>>
>>> You won't go back!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid
>>> it like the plague lol.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> --
>>> --
>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric
>>>> system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the
>>>> price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings.
>>>> and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap
>>>> investment for you Legacy. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> OK!  Got'a run now.
>>>>
>>>> take care everyone.
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Guys.
>>>>
>>>> For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add
>>>> linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-800mm-2xLinear-Automated-Equipments/dp/B07D9JRPG9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3O6ZOCZLMJVC1=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5nF2kpC9e06d4Uazs8esNr37KqhEKq7OrJtMqdrmRq5LVibABLK1FpefcGGJ4Ro5vOWB2-aotUxGTiSagK_B4KBYm7aYuhsZdXN8WCaGUb

Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00

[Tim Ziegler]

Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of the
brain more than 45 years ago. lol.
I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench
sometimes from my wrench set
to twin up with 3/4.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
>
>
> I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago!
>
> Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes to
> measurements - length, volume, weight, etc.
>
> Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!)
>
>
>
> If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at least
> half a brain - they build in metric.
>
> The math is SO MUCH EASIER!
>
>
>
> Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just
> ONE project using metric measurements.
>
> You won't go back!
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>
>
> Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid it
> like the plague lol.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric
>> system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the
>> price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings.
>> and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap
>> investment for you Legacy. ;-)
>>
>> OK!  Got'a run now.
>>
>> take care everyone.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> --
>> --
>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Guys.
>>
>> For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add
>> linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (
>> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-800mm-2xLinear-Automated-Equipments/dp/B07D9JRPG9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3O6ZOCZLMJVC1=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5nF2kpC9e06d4Uazs8esNr37KqhEKq7OrJtMqdrmRq5LVibABLK1FpefcGGJ4Ro5vOWB2-aotUxGTiSagK_B4KBYm7aYuhsZdXN8WCaGUbf-EpPLsv4Qx0mXG9jlGRD20zjqwNxrvi4NloFWqiL7G46TSvPXcu9TLOfBqSGJl-VcE4Z71BBTJQOCYDOjD3LMP4WOXp9hV-NRtWkmgO7aIJNUJA36ETG8k2qhu9BMd5g.drP49xafjzj1fSCPD5L17zPPzIoPwFI9Q-6CJSwnomU_tag=se=16mm+linear+rail=1721476678=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C92=8-9
>>  ) So
>> you can make your own new, X,Y,Z axis's.
>> The plastic gearing , although cheap  quality, compared to the steel
>> Legacy gears of the other machines, are useable, for most projects.
>> While you are at it, why not switch or add a new acme screw to your
>> machine? I used a 5/8-8 on my 200 and love it, By adding a new screw you
>> can double the pitches you have with the gears. Perhaps a acme screw on
>> each side of the  Legacy would make things look cleaner, or add both on one
>> side to make it more convenient for using...?
>>
>> I Have to run now.
>> Legacy is not just a machine its an idea. Why not make your own? ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> ------
>> --
>>
>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 07:41:23 AM EDT, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nothing special just would be nice to have a few spares
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 12:39 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>>
>>
>>
>> yeah we could price shipping for you Bill. Get a weight and size and we
>> could price it for you.
>>
>> What gears are you still looking for?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 7:39 PM  wrote:
>>
>> If it wasn’t for the shipping I might have bought it ju

Re: Rounding the pen blank on the REVO

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill. Yeah I have customer that I do a lot of game call engraving
and he give me a bunch
of different pen blanks. One of my favorite is Honduran Rosewood Burl.
The burl likes to chip out some times so I thought I'd eliminate some of
the problems and use
the LOM.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 11:05 PM  wrote:

> Very nice Tim beautiful burl it will look wonderful when finished I look
> forward to seeing it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2024 12:33 PM
> *To:* LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Rounding the pen blank on the REVO
>
>
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> Just played around yesterday eve. for a very short time.
>
> But it was LOM time so that was great.
>
> Here I have a Stabilized Hard Maple Burl and I decided to round down a
>
> bit on the Revo before turning it on the lathe.
>
> It is going to be a beautiful pen. I would have had it done,
>
> but I did not have both bushings to match for size.
>
> I hope by the end of the week they will come in, then I can
>
> finish turning the pen. Stay tuned if that works out.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
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Re: A non~LOM question

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Brigette,

I cut a hole right below the table in the plastic shroud and mounted a
vacuum hook up there.
Works pretty good. I could shoot you a picture tomorrow if you'd like?

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 10:06 AM Brigitte Graham 
wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> If allowed, Id like to talk to the SS heads?
> General question, as it was never part of the attachment, where have you
> retro fitted a dust extraction port on your SS bandsaw?
> TIA
> Brigitte
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Re: Ornamental lathe for sale/Eye Candy.

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah lot of stuff there and would be fun to see all that he may have turned
over the years on it.
I think you or Curt should buy it Mac. It's only a mere $80,000 uda!
Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 2:04 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Holy Cow!!!
>
> And I look at one of the upper end Leigh Dovetail Jigs and think:
>
> "Wow!  There is WAY TOO MUCH to learn to get my money's worth if I were to
> buy this jig!"
>
>
>
> By comparison, the Leigh's would be a very short "short story" compared to
> a book - like the complete, unabridged Webster's Dictionary!!
>
> It would take a study effort at the level of getting a college PhD to just
> begin to get creative with all that Steve J. has here.
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Did you "earn" a PhD with this marvelous machine?
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 19, 2024 12:35 AM
> To: Legacy ornamental mills 
> Subject: Ornamental lathe for sale/Eye Candy.
>
>
> This is what Dreams are made from. ;-)
> Enjoy!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> Steve Johnson has a Holtzapffel lathe, #1741 he is looking to sell.  he
> describes it as:
>
> Not much is known of the history of this lathe, but it is one of the best
> equipped Holtz's still in existence, with a full height Cuban Mahogany
> cabinet equipped with fitted shelves for a wide variety of chucks and hand
> tools, and an under-cabinet of several drawers with the doors hung with
> Holtz turning tools. The lathe has riser blocks to allow for larger
> turnings than normal, and the bed is slightly longer than usual. There are
> also some Cuban Mahagony toolchest under the lathe (in the pictures)
> containing even more Holtz accessories, if I remember correctly a rose
> engine chuck, goniostat, and I forget the others.
>
> Steve is asking $80,000.
>
> The machine is located in Redmond, WA.  Transport or pick up at buyer
> expense. I can recommend local crating and freight companies if needed.
> Steve Johnson,
>
> If you are interested, please contact
>
> Steve Johnson
> cascadianr...@gmail.com
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Re: Ornamental lathe for sale/Eye Candy.

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes for sure. What a machine of beauty right. Look at all that brass.

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On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:35 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> This is what Dreams are made from. ;-)
> Enjoy!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> Steve Johnson has a Holtzapffel lathe, #1741 he is looking to sell.  he
> describes it as:
>
> Not much is known of the history of this lathe, but it is one of the best
> equipped Holtz's still in existence, with a full height Cuban Mahogany
> cabinet equipped with fitted shelves for a wide variety of chucks and hand
> tools, and an under-cabinet of several drawers with the doors hung with
> Holtz turning tools. The lathe has riser blocks to allow for larger
> turnings than normal, and the bed is slightly longer than usual. There are
> also some Cuban Mahagony toolchest under the lathe (in the pictures)
> containing even more Holtz accessories, if I remember correctly a rose
> engine chuck, goniostat, and I forget the others.
>
> Steve is asking $80,000.
>
> The machine is located in Redmond, WA.  Transport or pick up at buyer
> expense. I can recommend local crating and freight companies if needed.
> Steve Johnson,
>
> If you are interested, please contact
>
> Steve Johnson
> cascadianr...@gmail.com
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Re: used tools

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

Yes I requested Pics. Those were my first questions to him.
So I am actually waiting for his pics as we speak. I did include his email
as all inquiries need to go to
him.
Thanks Curt.
So yes, any serious inquiries need to email Jimmie directly.
*jimmieworthma...@gmail.com
*

Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 11:07 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello there everyone.
>
> Tim.  I would suggest that having this  Jimmie E-mail directly for sales a
> good idea.
> But since all of these tools are high dollar amounts, I think photo's of
> these tools would help,
> both our members and his/Jimmie's sale potential.
>
> I wish you the best of luck on the sales of his tools, as well as his
> up-coming surgery.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 12:46:41 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024, 6:12 PM Jimmie Worthman 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Would you be interested in buying some routers as I am letting go of them
> at affordable prices... selling due to surgery reasons.
>
> Axiom AR8 Pro V5 $6200
> Router Table Package, with graphics $750
> Woodmaster 718 $6000
> Shaper Origin handheld CNC wood router $1700
> JET 708433 JDS-12B 1-Horsepower 12-Inch Bench top Disc Sander $250
> Oak Park Router Table $500
>
>  I am open to serious offers
>
> Prices include shipping
>
>
> *Please email Jimmie directly for more information. *
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
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used tools

[Tim Ziegler]

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024, 6:12 PM Jimmie Worthman 
wrote:

> Hi,
> Would you be interested in buying some routers as I am letting go of them
> at affordable prices... selling due to surgery reasons.
>
> Axiom AR8 Pro V5 $6200
> Router Table Package, with graphics $750
> Woodmaster 718 $6000
> Shaper Origin handheld CNC wood router $1700
> JET 708433 JDS-12B 1-Horsepower 12-Inch Bench top Disc Sander $250
> Oak Park Router Table $500
>
>  I am open to serious offers
>
> Prices include shipping
>

*Please email Jimmie directly for more information. *

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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Re:  Save $280 on the Trajan 125 Bandsaw Combo Kit – Limited Time Offer

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah pretty cool little unit for sure.

Kind Regards,

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Neat saw.
> I'm sure is could cut down a Legacy 1800 and make it into two 900's. ;-p
>
> Sorry! with all kidding aside .
>
> Thanks Tim, that saw looks to be pretty nice.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 04:17:57 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Not sure how we can tie this in with our LOM's but I sure thought
> of you guys when I saw it. (SAW IT) lol
> I am sure we all have cut bolts or something for our Legacy's and this
> sure would
> beat the hack saw.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
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Re: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mills.

[Tim Ziegler]

Yup I've seen your video. It's great lol

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, 7:49 PM  wrote:

> I do all my large slab milling on a modified legacy mill the automatic
> feed is me sitting on a chair pulling on a rope lol
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Qb8lLzLv8=11s_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km6XSLQVo3Y_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Shuai Robert
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2024 2:33 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab
> Flattening Mills.
>
>
>
> Wanted to point out if new router but hit a knot its likely to microchip.
> Ideally sand the knots?
>
>
>
> So to level a slab I would have to crosscut both sides with a core box,
> ball nose bit (half of a ball instead of flat end mill)
>
>
>
> Both sides, let it settle for a year ideally, then sand/plane the little
> ledges left by bullnose.
>
>
>
> If you have a crosscut sled table saw with dado it's same idea upside
> down, or a track saw if set/shimmed correctly.
>
>
>
> Crosscutting save time having to identify grain direction with none
> helical cutters. Also relief internal tension.
>
>
>
> But all this takes too long, just don't hit a knot and tear out too much,
> sand to hide flaw.. ask customer which side he prefers before putting too
> much work on one side.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 6:45 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Now look at what they have come up with.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *Woodpeckers* 
> Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:49 AM
> Subject: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening
> Mills.
> To: 
>
>
>
> Stop pushing and pulling your Slab Flattening Mill. Feed it with EZ∙Drive!
>
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/OB3WuNs7Xvxr0X2lZtRnZa9KkPxIuyLV0Y1ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gGdNjH_6VdpVLIk4Mh32JCPB_aYg>
>
> *If you want to mill more slabs in less time and with less effort, add
> Woodpeckers new EZ∙Drive to your Slab Flattening Mill. *With EZ∙Drive,
> advancing your router is as easy as turning a couple small cranks…one moves
> the router carriage across the slab and the other moves it end to end. You
> can get EZ∙Drive packaged with a new Slab Flattening Mill Pro or you can
> add EZ∙Drive to any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill you already own…any
> model of any age. EZ∙-Drive uses cogged belts to move the router carriage.
> Once installed, all the original features of the Slab Flattening Mill are
> still there, but you're no longer pushing and pulling the carriage. You're
> feeding it with EZ∙Drive.
>
>
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/PhAbPzwCiXFx0Xr0DGNTjE9h7noPP31c1WcZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gE-bJO1vfe7bLvb1zibQsT6RXvyA>
>
> *From concept through production model,* the plan has always been for
> EZ∙Drive to be user-installed on any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill. Most
> folks have their mill converted in a couple hours using nothing but common
> toolbox items and the hex keys provided. Once installed, moving your router
> carriage is about like raising the blade on a brand-new table saw…only with
> a better gear ratio. No more reaching across those 4' slabs. No more
> guessing about moving the carriage along the length, just crank and go.
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/55PiWB1ao6bO0XqwCMdsDoQCl4zEWgETbU0ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gb7illEKfeIULk16fdBGKe_mmxpA>
>
> *EZ∙Drive's cogged belts are the key. *The sprockets on the crank handles
> mesh with the belts to ensure positive movement with no slippage. Belts
> synchronized on both sides of the carriage and along both base rails keep
> things moving in straight lines. We include enough belting to take care of
> any width or length configuration possible with any of the Slab Flattening
&g

Fwd:  Save $280 on the Trajan 125 Bandsaw Combo Kit – Limited Time Offer

[Tim Ziegler]

Not sure how we can tie this in with our LOM's but I sure thought
of you guys when I saw it. (SAW IT) lol
I am sure we all have cut bolts or something for our Legacy's and this sure
would
beat the hack saw.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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Re: Fwd: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mills.

[Tim Ziegler]

yup for sure.
Another shiny object lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 10:35 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> It looks like an etch-a-sketch for grownups
> On 7/9/2024 8:44 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Now look at what they have come up with.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Woodpeckers 
> Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:49 AM
> Subject: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening
> Mills.
> To: 
>
>
> Stop pushing and pulling your Slab Flattening Mill. Feed it with EZ∙Drive!
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/OB3WuNs7Xvxr0X2lZtRnZa9KkPxIuyLV0Y1ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gGdNjH_6VdpVLIk4Mh32JCPB_aYg>
>
> *If you want to mill more slabs in less time and with less effort, add
> Woodpeckers new EZ∙Drive to your Slab Flattening Mill. *With EZ∙Drive,
> advancing your router is as easy as turning a couple small cranks…one moves
> the router carriage across the slab and the other moves it end to end. You
> can get EZ∙Drive packaged with a new Slab Flattening Mill Pro or you can
> add EZ∙Drive to any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill you already own…any
> model of any age. EZ∙-Drive uses cogged belts to move the router carriage.
> Once installed, all the original features of the Slab Flattening Mill are
> still there, but you're no longer pushing and pulling the carriage. You're
> feeding it with EZ∙Drive.
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/PhAbPzwCiXFx0Xr0DGNTjE9h7noPP31c1WcZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gE-bJO1vfe7bLvb1zibQsT6RXvyA>
>
> *From concept through production model,* the plan has always been for
> EZ∙Drive to be user-installed on any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill. Most
> folks have their mill converted in a couple hours using nothing but common
> toolbox items and the hex keys provided. Once installed, moving your router
> carriage is about like raising the blade on a brand-new table saw…only with
> a better gear ratio. No more reaching across those 4' slabs. No more
> guessing about moving the carriage along the length, just crank and go.
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/55PiWB1ao6bO0XqwCMdsDoQCl4zEWgETbU0ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gb7illEKfeIULk16fdBGKe_mmxpA>
>
> *EZ∙Drive's cogged belts are the key. *The sprockets on the crank handles
> mesh with the belts to ensure positive movement with no slippage. Belts
> synchronized on both sides of the carriage and along both base rails keep
> things moving in straight lines. We include enough belting to take care of
> any width or length configuration possible with any of the Slab Flattening
> Mill models…no matter how new or how old.
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/GPcfNi51VjuT0XBSih6A9CenLUW1NNo3eo-ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4g0O8yrP8ufqQL5alF2c2o-5NbmMw>
>
> *Imagine milling slabs without ever leaning *out over the bed and only
> touching the router to turn it on and off. You'll get more done in less
> time and with less wear and tear on your body.
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/ygN-x8op5Ljo0XS3tE8c7BVtnEVyx_4Nd1nZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gf6jSoIIkcLjLzoVvOI4MnM3mh0w>
>
> *Like all Woodpeckers products, the EZ∙Drive System for the Slab
> Flattening Mills *is precisely machined and carefully inspected in our
> Strongsville, Ohio, facility, just south of Cleveland. We're launching
> EZ∙-Drive with special introductory pricing for a limited time. *Order
> before July 29, 2024 to take advantage of the special and take the
> stretching and leaning out of your slab projects.  Delivery is scheduled
> for August.*
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/rl0XIwK8mxuU0XNayeL_N4LJbbOGIhwMvyLZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gsv1LNK09errLGrgrWgBx_XLT0Sg>
> [image: Woodpeck.com]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/rZTB_Tk6iET20XInap08tNi7t_5Y_etFVB6ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4goT_58TdEeIjLLzm1j_Iq9Vac2-A>
>
> *Credit Card Policy.* Please note if you're paying by credit card, you
> will not be charged until your order is ready to ship. Ho

Re: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mills.

[Tim Ziegler]

yup exactly what I was thinking. Wonder how much give is in the belts?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:18 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> "Man" that's neat !
>
> Could be used on a Legacy, (almost?)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 11:08:23 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yea I saw that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2024 11:45 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Fwd: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab
> Flattening Mills.
>
>
>
> Now look at what they have come up with.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *Woodpeckers* 
> Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:49 AM
> Subject: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening
> Mills.
> To: 
>
>
>
> Stop pushing and pulling your Slab Flattening Mill. Feed it with EZ∙Drive!
>
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/OB3WuNs7Xvxr0X2lZtRnZa9KkPxIuyLV0Y1ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gGdNjH_6VdpVLIk4Mh32JCPB_aYg>
>
> *If you want to mill more slabs in less time and with less effort, add
> Woodpeckers new EZ∙Drive to your Slab Flattening Mill. *With EZ∙Drive,
> advancing your router is as easy as turning a couple small cranks…one moves
> the router carriage across the slab and the other moves it end to end. You
> can get EZ∙Drive packaged with a new Slab Flattening Mill Pro or you can
> add EZ∙Drive to any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill you already own…any
> model of any age. EZ∙-Drive uses cogged belts to move the router carriage.
> Once installed, all the original features of the Slab Flattening Mill are
> still there, but you're no longer pushing and pulling the carriage. You're
> feeding it with EZ∙Drive.
>
>
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/PhAbPzwCiXFx0Xr0DGNTjE9h7noPP31c1WcZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gE-bJO1vfe7bLvb1zibQsT6RXvyA>
>
> *From concept through production model,* the plan has always been for
> EZ∙Drive to be user-installed on any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill. Most
> folks have their mill converted in a couple hours using nothing but common
> toolbox items and the hex keys provided. Once installed, moving your router
> carriage is about like raising the blade on a brand-new table saw…only with
> a better gear ratio. No more reaching across those 4' slabs. No more
> guessing about moving the carriage along the length, just crank and go.
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/55PiWB1ao6bO0XqwCMdsDoQCl4zEWgETbU0ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gb7illEKfeIULk16fdBGKe_mmxpA>
>
> *EZ∙Drive's cogged belts are the key. *The sprockets on the crank handles
> mesh with the belts to ensure positive movement with no slippage. Belts
> synchronized on both sides of the carriage and along both base rails keep
> things moving in straight lines. We include enough belting to take care of
> any width or length configuration possible with any of the Slab Flattening
> Mill models…no matter how new or how old.
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/GPcfNi51VjuT0XBSih6A9CenLUW1NNo3eo-ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4g0O8yrP8ufqQL5alF2c2o-5NbmMw>
>
> *Imagine milling slabs without ever leaning *out over the bed and only
> touching the router to turn it on and off. You'll get more done in less
> time and with less wear and tear on your body.
>
>
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/ygN-x8op5Ljo0XS3tE8c7BVtnEVyx_4Nd1nZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gf6jSoIIkcLjLzoVvOI4MnM3mh0w>
>
> *Like all Woodpeckers products, the EZ∙Drive System for the Slab
> Flattening Mills *is precisely machined and carefully inspected in our
> Strongsville, Ohio, facility, just south of Cleveland. We're launching
> EZ∙-Drive with special introductory pricing

Re: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mills.

[Tim Ziegler]

Now we could practically use it as a LOM.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 10:08 PM  wrote:

> Yea I saw that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2024 11:45 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Fwd: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab
> Flattening Mills.
>
>
>
> Now look at what they have come up with.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *Woodpeckers* 
> Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:49 AM
> Subject: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening
> Mills.
> To: 
>
>
>
> Stop pushing and pulling your Slab Flattening Mill. Feed it with EZ∙Drive!
>
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/OB3WuNs7Xvxr0X2lZtRnZa9KkPxIuyLV0Y1ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gGdNjH_6VdpVLIk4Mh32JCPB_aYg>
>
> *If you want to mill more slabs in less time and with less effort, add
> Woodpeckers new EZ∙Drive to your Slab Flattening Mill. *With EZ∙Drive,
> advancing your router is as easy as turning a couple small cranks…one moves
> the router carriage across the slab and the other moves it end to end. You
> can get EZ∙Drive packaged with a new Slab Flattening Mill Pro or you can
> add EZ∙Drive to any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill you already own…any
> model of any age. EZ∙-Drive uses cogged belts to move the router carriage.
> Once installed, all the original features of the Slab Flattening Mill are
> still there, but you're no longer pushing and pulling the carriage. You're
> feeding it with EZ∙Drive.
>
>
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/PhAbPzwCiXFx0Xr0DGNTjE9h7noPP31c1WcZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gE-bJO1vfe7bLvb1zibQsT6RXvyA>
>
> *From concept through production model,* the plan has always been for
> EZ∙Drive to be user-installed on any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill. Most
> folks have their mill converted in a couple hours using nothing but common
> toolbox items and the hex keys provided. Once installed, moving your router
> carriage is about like raising the blade on a brand-new table saw…only with
> a better gear ratio. No more reaching across those 4' slabs. No more
> guessing about moving the carriage along the length, just crank and go.
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/55PiWB1ao6bO0XqwCMdsDoQCl4zEWgETbU0ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gb7illEKfeIULk16fdBGKe_mmxpA>
>
> *EZ∙Drive's cogged belts are the key. *The sprockets on the crank handles
> mesh with the belts to ensure positive movement with no slippage. Belts
> synchronized on both sides of the carriage and along both base rails keep
> things moving in straight lines. We include enough belting to take care of
> any width or length configuration possible with any of the Slab Flattening
> Mill models…no matter how new or how old.
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/GPcfNi51VjuT0XBSih6A9CenLUW1NNo3eo-ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4g0O8yrP8ufqQL5alF2c2o-5NbmMw>
>
> *Imagine milling slabs without ever leaning *out over the bed and only
> touching the router to turn it on and off. You'll get more done in less
> time and with less wear and tear on your body.
>
>
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/ygN-x8op5Ljo0XS3tE8c7BVtnEVyx_4Nd1nZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gf6jSoIIkcLjLzoVvOI4MnM3mh0w>
>
> *Like all Woodpeckers products, the EZ∙Drive System for the Slab
> Flattening Mills *is precisely machined and carefully inspected in our
> Strongsville, Ohio, facility, just south of Cleveland. We're launching
> EZ∙-Drive with special introductory pricing for a limited time. *Order
> before July 29, 2024 to take advantage of the special and take the
> stretching and leaning out of your slab projects.**  Delivery is
> scheduled for August.*
>
>
>
> [image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]
> <https://link.woodpeck.com/q/rl0XIwK8mxuU0XNayeL_N4LJbbOGIhwMvyLZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gsv1LNK09errLGrgrWgBx_

Fwd: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mills.

[Tim Ziegler]

Now look at what they have come up with.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


-- Forwarded message -
From: Woodpeckers 
Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:49 AM
Subject: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening
Mills.
To: 


Stop pushing and pulling your Slab Flattening Mill. Feed it with EZ∙Drive!
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‌ ‌
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[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*If you want to mill more slabs in less time and with less effort, add
Woodpeckers new EZ∙Drive to your Slab Flattening Mill. *With EZ∙Drive,
advancing your router is as easy as turning a couple small cranks…one moves
the router carriage across the slab and the other moves it end to end. You
can get EZ∙Drive packaged with a new Slab Flattening Mill Pro or you can
add EZ∙Drive to any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill you already own…any
model of any age. EZ∙-Drive uses cogged belts to move the router carriage.
Once installed, all the original features of the Slab Flattening Mill are
still there, but you're no longer pushing and pulling the carriage. You're
feeding it with EZ∙Drive.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*From concept through production model,* the plan has always been for
EZ∙Drive to be user-installed on any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill. Most
folks have their mill converted in a couple hours using nothing but common
toolbox items and the hex keys provided. Once installed, moving your router
carriage is about like raising the blade on a brand-new table saw…only with
a better gear ratio. No more reaching across those 4' slabs. No more
guessing about moving the carriage along the length, just crank and go.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*EZ∙Drive's cogged belts are the key. *The sprockets on the crank handles
mesh with the belts to ensure positive movement with no slippage. Belts
synchronized on both sides of the carriage and along both base rails keep
things moving in straight lines. We include enough belting to take care of
any width or length configuration possible with any of the Slab Flattening
Mill models…no matter how new or how old.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*Imagine milling slabs without ever leaning *out over the bed and only
touching the router to turn it on and off. You'll get more done in less
time and with less wear and tear on your body.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*Like all Woodpeckers products, the EZ∙Drive System for the Slab Flattening
Mills *is precisely machined and carefully inspected in our Strongsville,
Ohio, facility, just south of Cleveland. We're launching EZ∙-Drive with
special introductory pricing for a limited time. *Order before July 29,
2024 to take advantage of the special and take the stretching and leaning
out of your slab projects.  Delivery is scheduled for August.*
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Re: Red bone

[Tim Ziegler]

Another great idea for sure Dan.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 7:11 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Methinks another method of coloring might be worth a try.  Aniline powder
> dissolved in DNA (denatured alcohol) will penetrate most any thing that can
> be penetrated. The density of color can be controlled by how strong the
> solution is.  Methinks (without any experience) that if the bone were put
> into the dye while hot, it would help penetration as it cools. I love
> aniline dyes for wood.
> DanK
> On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 11:35:01 AM UTC-4 Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:
>
>> Also thinking about Easter bones LOL use Easter egg dye with vinegar to
>> do the job.  That and the pressure could make it absorb.  It would have to
>> be a post process or else it will cut away the color during milling.
>> Mike OK
>> On 7/8/2024 5:58 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Good morning Curt, Bill and all participating in this
>> particular subject.
>> Sorry we were camping these last 4 days and having family time so I
>> stayed pretty quiet. lol.
>>
>> So to add to this subject as for dying the bone a certain have you
>> considered a
>> pressure pot Curt? That is how the guys get dye and stabilization to
>> happen
>> in the game call world. Not sure the length of time it would take to
>> permeate
>> into bone but worth a try.
>> Just something to think about.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think I own blue? (the only reason why I own RED, was for an
>>> repair job I did some 15 yrs ago.) I will go out to the shop tomorrow and
>>> see what I have.
>>>
>>> Latter this week I can go to Wood Craft and see what dye they sell.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:43:49 PM EDT, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know red or perhaps blue
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 12:21 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HI Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps? but I think the colors will only hold onto were the red is. but
>>> that's only a guess.
>>>
>>> What color would you suggest TO try?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:02:05 PM EDT, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How would soaking the bone in dye go for a more even color?
>>>
>>> ‘
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 9:41 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with you Bill.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But in this case One bone had a red tint that just stood out to much.
>>>
>>> I figured, why not try?  I sanded the bones down and then stained them
>>> with red dye.
>>>
>>> The dye only took ahold of the bone in cracks and in the one bone disks
>>> where the red
>>>
>>> tint was already.
>>>
>>> This one is a learning experience for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I did today was to try to repair any and all defected spindles that
>>> I had made over the past few years.
>>>
>>> I was able to salvage 3 bone handles,(Including the red bone.) there are
>>> still a few that I need to still try to repair sometime in the future. But
>>> at this time they will just sit and wait, for the day that, I either have
>>> to need, skill, or reason to spend the time t

Re: Red bone

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill.
I feel that is the only way you will get it to penetrate the bone.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 7:11 PM  wrote:

> That’s a good idea Tim
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 8:58 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>
>
>
> Good morning Curt, Bill and all participating in this particular subject.
>
> Sorry we were camping these last 4 days and having family time so I
>
> stayed pretty quiet. lol.
>
>
>
> So to add to this subject as for dying the bone a certain have you
> considered a
>
> pressure pot Curt? That is how the guys get dye and stabilization to
> happen
>
> in the game call world. Not sure the length of time it would take to
> permeate
>
> into bone but worth a try.
>
> Just something to think about.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think I own blue? (the only reason why I own RED, was for an
> repair job I did some 15 yrs ago.) I will go out to the shop tomorrow and
> see what I have.
>
>
>
> Latter this week I can go to Wood Craft and see what dye they sell.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:43:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I don’t know red or perhaps blue
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 12:21 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>
>
>
> HI Bill
>
>
>
> Perhaps? but I think the colors will only hold onto were the red is. but
> that's only a guess.
>
> What color would you suggest TO try?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:02:05 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> How would soaking the bone in dye go for a more even color?
>
> ‘
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 9:41 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>
>
>
> I agree with you Bill.
>
>
>
> But in this case One bone had a red tint that just stood out to much.
>
> I figured, why not try?  I sanded the bones down and then stained them
> with red dye.
>
> The dye only took ahold of the bone in cracks and in the one bone disks
> where the red
>
> tint was already.
>
> This one is a learning experience for me.
>
>
>
> What I did today was to try to repair any and all defected spindles that I
> had made over the past few years.
>
> I was able to salvage 3 bone handles,(Including the red bone.) there are
> still a few that I need to still try to repair sometime in the future. But
> at this time they will just sit and wait, for the day that, I either have
> to need, skill, or reason to spend the time to make there repairs.
>
> I am not hurting for bone at this time.  I just finished up another batch
> of bone disks, (appx 400) and just now made some 8 new glued up blanks for
> more fun, to come. ;-)
>
>
>
> Have a good day, everyone.
>
>
>
> And Thank you Bill.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 07:00:45 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> It’s different but I think I prefer the all white my self
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 2:46 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Red bone
>
>
>
> Hello everyone.
>
>
>
> This bone turning had some red dye in some of the disks that could not be
> removed,(THE dye was from the red food coloring the supplier put into the
> bone) So I opted to stain the bone to match.
>
>
>
> I don't know if I'm happy with this or not? but it dose look different. ;-)
>
>
>
> Please let me know what you thing?
&

Re: Red bone

[Tim Ziegler]

Good idea Mac, all worth trying.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 10:48 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> If a pressure pot doesn't work (or work well enough) - give thought to
> trying a vacuum chamber.
>
> If it's able to suck the air out of the voids in the bone - the dye
> solution may replace it.
>
> Might be worth the try.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 8, 2024 11:35 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Red bone
>
>
>
> Also thinking about Easter bones LOL use Easter egg dye with vinegar to do
> the job.  That and the pressure could make it absorb.  It would have to be
> a post process or else it will cut away the color during milling.
> Mike OK
>
>
> ------
> --
> On 7/8/2024 5:58 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Good morning Curt, Bill and all participating in this particular subject.
> Sorry we were camping these last 4 days and having family time so I
> stayed pretty quiet. lol.
>
> So to add to this subject as for dying the bone a certain have you
> considered a
> pressure pot Curt? That is how the guys get dye and stabilization to
> happen
> in the game call world. Not sure the length of time it would take to
> permeate
> into bone but worth a try.
> Just something to think about.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> --
> --
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think I own blue? (the only reason why I own RED, was for an
>> repair job I did some 15 yrs ago.) I will go out to the shop tomorrow and
>> see what I have.
>>
>> Latter this week I can go to Wood Craft and see what dye they sell.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:43:49 PM EDT, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don’t know red or perhaps blue
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 12:21 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>>
>>
>>
>> HI Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps? but I think the colors will only hold onto were the red is. but
>> that's only a guess.
>>
>> What color would you suggest TO try?
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:02:05 PM EDT, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> How would soaking the bone in dye go for a more even color?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 9:41 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> But in this case One bone had a red tint that just stood out to much.
>>
>> I figured, why not try?  I sanded the bones down and then stained them
>> with red dye.
>>
>> The dye only took ahold of the bone in cracks and in the one bone disks
>> where the red
>>
>> tint was already.
>>
>> This one is a learning experience for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I did today was to try to repair any and all defected spindles that
>> I had made over the past few years.
>>
>> I was able to salvage 3 bone handles,(Including the red bone.) there are
>> still a few that I need to still try to repair sometime in the future. But
>> at this time they will just sit and wait, for the day that, I either have
>> to need, skill, or reason to spend the time to make there repairs.
>>
>> I am not hurting for bone at this time.  I just finished up another batch
>> of bone disks, (appx 400) and just now made some 8 new glued up blanks for
>> more fun, to come. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good day, everyone.
>&

Re: Red bone

[Tim Ziegler]

Good morning Curt, Bill and all participating in this particular subject.
Sorry we were camping these last 4 days and having family time so I
stayed pretty quiet. lol.

So to add to this subject as for dying the bone a certain have you
considered a
pressure pot Curt? That is how the guys get dye and stabilization to happen
in the game call world. Not sure the length of time it would take to
permeate
into bone but worth a try.
Just something to think about.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I don't think I own blue? (the only reason why I own RED, was for an
> repair job I did some 15 yrs ago.) I will go out to the shop tomorrow and
> see what I have.
>
> Latter this week I can go to Wood Craft and see what dye they sell.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:43:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> I don’t know red or perhaps blue
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 12:21 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>
>
>
> HI Bill
>
>
>
> Perhaps? but I think the colors will only hold onto were the red is. but
> that's only a guess.
>
> What color would you suggest TO try?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:02:05 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> How would soaking the bone in dye go for a more even color?
>
> ‘
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 9:41 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Red bone
>
>
>
> I agree with you Bill.
>
>
>
> But in this case One bone had a red tint that just stood out to much.
>
> I figured, why not try?  I sanded the bones down and then stained them
> with red dye.
>
> The dye only took ahold of the bone in cracks and in the one bone disks
> where the red
>
> tint was already.
>
> This one is a learning experience for me.
>
>
>
> What I did today was to try to repair any and all defected spindles that I
> had made over the past few years.
>
> I was able to salvage 3 bone handles,(Including the red bone.) there are
> still a few that I need to still try to repair sometime in the future. But
> at this time they will just sit and wait, for the day that, I either have
> to need, skill, or reason to spend the time to make there repairs.
>
> I am not hurting for bone at this time.  I just finished up another batch
> of bone disks, (appx 400) and just now made some 8 new glued up blanks for
> more fun, to come. ;-)
>
>
>
> Have a good day, everyone.
>
>
>
> And Thank you Bill.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 07:00:45 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> It’s different but I think I prefer the all white my self
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 2:46 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Red bone
>
>
>
> Hello everyone.
>
>
>
> This bone turning had some red dye in some of the disks that could not be
> removed,(THE dye was from the red food coloring the supplier put into the
> bone) So I opted to stain the bone to match.
>
>
>
> I don't know if I'm happy with this or not? but it dose look different. ;-)
>
>
>
> Please let me know what you thing?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: New Legacy CNC stool video

[Tim Ziegler]

yup great stuff, thanks Bill.

Kind Regards,

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On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 1:14 PM J Joseph  wrote:

> Looks great
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 1:21 PM  wrote:
>
>> We sure can I been making wooden threads on my manual legacy for years
>> even long before legacy went cnc
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is an very old video and slide show of me making a wooden nut and
>> bolt
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_l3gTZLkOc=3s_channel=aussiman77181
>> one left hand and one right hand thread
>>
>>
>>
>> So yes I think we could make a bar stool too on our legacy too
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2024 11:14 AM
>> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
>> *Subject:* New Legacy CNC stool video
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> this video is nice, But the nicest things about it, is...  WE the LOM
>> users
>>
>> can do things like this, on our mills.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAjt2zd1AA
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember, "Legacy, the Only Imitation, is your emanation".
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
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Re: To all new members

[Tim Ziegler]

Sounds good Curt. looking forward to seeing what you come up with
Kind Regards,

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Tim
>
> I do have some idea, that I plan to look in to .
> I'm not giving up on my bone turnings, but I do have some ideas on new
> projects.
>
> More latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 09:33:50 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome all you new member's.
>
> Sorry to hear no whale bone Curt. That would be cool to try some of that
> for sure.
> We need to research some new products to replace or add to the bone
> turning for sure.
> Welcome back to Curt, great to have you taking the reins again.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 8:05 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I would like to welcome a number of new members to the group.
>
> Please be advised that it take a number of e-mails (appx. 5) send to the
> group in order to get full access for the posting of the group, without
> having me or Tim K. grant access for posting messages to the group.
>
> To everyone, I am sorry that I have been away for the last week. So a few
> new people were keep hanging in Limbo (so to speak.) until I was able to
> get back on a computer and grant access.
>
> I am glad to see we have had a few interesting topic while I was gone. for
> those members who keep things moving, I do thank you.
>
> As for me, I went to Alaska to find some Whale Bone. ( That's Only a half
> truth, ;-)  )
> I really took my wife on an Alaskan cruse for our 30yr anniversary. (but I
> did look for whale bone in 3 city's where we stopped at.
> Sadly I was not able to find any whale bone, that was not already carved.
> (and you wouldn't believe the prices those carving's sold for!  Way out
> side my price range.) ;-)
>
> Now back to the original context of this message.
>
> Welcome to the group everyone, Please post any idea, or problems you may
> have,
> This group was formed with the context/ purpose . of Learning how to
> become the best woodworker possible. By the way of using the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill . (L.O.M.)
> So I invite everyone to post, share and talk as much as you can, in the
> hope, That we all can learn form each others experiences .
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: wood bending with vinegar

[Tim Ziegler]

yes you're absolutely right Mac.

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 2:37 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
>
>
> You may want to state "Red Oak" - as White Oak has quite a different
> structure.
>
> The vinegar method possibly will not work on White Oak.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jul 2, 2024 3:14 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: wood bending with vinegar
>
>
> yeah might be worth a try. But if you don't have open pore wood like Ash
> and Oak you
> may not have a great deal of success. But sure worth messing around with
> for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
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>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:05 PM  wrote:
>
>> I have done a little bending with steam with some success but aussi
>> timbers for me don’t seem to like bending much perhaps using white vinegar
>> might be better I will have to try it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2024 9:01 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: wood bending with vinegar
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, this seems like a great alternative to having to set up a steam
>> bender. I have plans for one but have
>>
>> not pursued it. The concept of using white vinegar seems relatively
>> simple and does take more prep time,
>>
>> but is simple. I have dones some bending but mostly kerf bending and some
>> heat bending over a pipe,
>>
>> a trick I learned from George VonDriska.
>>
>> Over all I think all of us should have some technique of bending down and
>> I think this one you mentioned
>>
>> would be pretty simple to use.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:47 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting
>>
>>
>>
>> https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
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Re: wood bending with vinegar

[Tim Ziegler]

sounds good Curt, let us know your results if you do it.

Kind Regards,

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 8:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The funny thing here is, I already have a few gal. of vinegar .  I use it
> for a number of things, (such as a cleaner/descaler for mineral deposits.)
> Perhaps once I get caught up with my project list? (the question is not
> "IF" but when? I will be trying this out for my self. "One day".  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 09:04:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt welcome back. Yes we have some others going to try it so what
> have we to lose right.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. (I'm back!)
>
> This story/vinegar bending is a new one to me!  I like it.
> Nice find Bill.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 06:53:40 PM EDT, Shuai Robert <
> robertsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Also I've heard of ammonia or other volatile solvents working well in
> vacuum chamber or might've been pressurized back in the day when they did
> the experiment.
>
> So logic tells me I will try vinegar in vacuum chamber to help with
> penetration.
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, 11:47 PM  wrote:
>
> Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting
>
>
>
> https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: New Legacy CNC stool video

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes for sure. We can thread as good as the next guy for sure.

Kind Regards,

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 8:13 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> this video is nice, But the nicest things about it, is...  WE the LOM users
> can do things like this, on our mills.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAjt2zd1AA
>
> Remember, "Legacy, the Only Imitation, is your emanation".
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Side Cutting on the Legacy vs the Nova O. T.

[Tim Ziegler]

yeah and a lot of fun to run Curt.
thanks
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 8:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Wow! Tim.
>
> That's Awesome.  I cant wait to see more.
> I really Like it !
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 11:38:37 AM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For sure Bill.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 8:11 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Very similar to the legacy brick pattern very nice Tim I’m still green
>>> lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:09 PM
>>> *To:* LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com>
>>> *Subject:* Side Cutting on the Legacy vs the Nova O. T.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did an interesting test last night on the Nova Ornamental Turner Jig,
>>> which I have done also on my LOM 1200. This particular cutter however can
>>> do radius or profiles because of the direction you can come in at, not just
>>> from the side but the cutter is turning in a way that the cut is made in a
>>> up or down motion.
>>>
>>> I could possibly do this with my horizontal router mounted in the LOM,
>>> but may have a higher chance of burning as the RPMs are a fair amount
>>> higher.
>>>
>>> The piece in the picture was done on the lathe at about 1000 RPM's.
>>>
>>> I did get some chipping and as you can see the first couple rows were in
>>> alignment with each other and was supposed to be staggered. Oops
>>>
>>> Now on another note: If you want this pattern in a flat and not radiused
>>> you can
>>>
>>> do this on your Legacy with your current router position running from
>>> the top and a small flat bottom cut bit and your indexing plate. This
>>> pattern is sometimes referred to as the basket weave pattern.
>>>
>>> Very nice patterns for small round boxes.
>>>
>>> Give it a try and see what you can come up with. Maybe many of you have
>>> already done this and have some projects to share
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: To all new members

[Tim Ziegler]

Welcome all you new member's.

Sorry to hear no whale bone Curt. That would be cool to try some of that
for sure.
We need to research some new products to replace or add to the bone turning
for sure.
Welcome back to Curt, great to have you taking the reins again.


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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 8:05 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.
>
> I would like to welcome a number of new members to the group.
>
> Please be advised that it take a number of e-mails (appx. 5) send to the
> group in order to get full access for the posting of the group, without
> having me or Tim K. grant access for posting messages to the group.
>
> To everyone, I am sorry that I have been away for the last week. So a few
> new people were keep hanging in Limbo (so to speak.) until I was able to
> get back on a computer and grant access.
>
> I am glad to see we have had a few interesting topic while I was gone. for
> those members who keep things moving, I do thank you.
>
> As for me, I went to Alaska to find some Whale Bone. ( That's Only a half
> truth, ;-)  )
> I really took my wife on an Alaskan cruse for our 30yr anniversary. (but I
> did look for whale bone in 3 city's where we stopped at.
> Sadly I was not able to find any whale bone, that was not already carved.
> (and you wouldn't believe the prices those carving's sold for!  Way out
> side my price range.) ;-)
>
> Now back to the original context of this message.
>
> Welcome to the group everyone, Please post any idea, or problems you may
> have,
> This group was formed with the context/ purpose . of Learning how to
> become the best woodworker possible. By the way of using the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill . (L.O.M.)
> So I invite everyone to post, share and talk as much as you can, in the
> hope, That we all can learn form each others experiences .
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: wood bending with vinegar

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt welcome back. Yes we have some others going to try it so what have
we to lose right.

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone. (I'm back!)
>
> This story/vinegar bending is a new one to me!  I like it.
> Nice find Bill.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 06:53:40 PM EDT, Shuai Robert <
> robertsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Also I've heard of ammonia or other volatile solvents working well in
> vacuum chamber or might've been pressurized back in the day when they did
> the experiment.
>
> So logic tells me I will try vinegar in vacuum chamber to help with
> penetration.
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, 11:47 PM  wrote:
>
> Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting
>
>
>
> https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: wood bending with vinegar

[Tim Ziegler]

Sounds like a great idea. Please let us know what your results are when
you've tried it.
What species of woods do you have at your disposal?

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:53 PM Shuai Robert  wrote:

> Also I've heard of ammonia or other volatile solvents working well in
> vacuum chamber or might've been pressurized back in the day when they did
> the experiment.
>
> So logic tells me I will try vinegar in vacuum chamber to help with
> penetration.
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, 11:47 PM  wrote:
>
>> Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting
>>
>>
>>
>> https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
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Re: wood bending with vinegar

[Tim Ziegler]

yeah might be worth a try. But if you don't have open pore wood like Ash
and Oak you
may not have a great deal of success. But sure worth messing around with
for sure.

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:05 PM  wrote:

> I have done a little bending with steam with some success but aussi
> timbers for me don’t seem to like bending much perhaps using white vinegar
> might be better I will have to try it.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2024 9:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: wood bending with vinegar
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Thanks, this seems like a great alternative to having to set up a steam
> bender. I have plans for one but have
>
> not pursued it. The concept of using white vinegar seems relatively simple
> and does take more prep time,
>
> but is simple. I have dones some bending but mostly kerf bending and some
> heat bending over a pipe,
>
> a trick I learned from George VonDriska.
>
> Over all I think all of us should have some technique of bending down and
> I think this one you mentioned
>
> would be pretty simple to use.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:47 AM  wrote:
>
> Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting
>
>
>
> https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: wood bending with vinegar

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill,

Thanks, this seems like a great alternative to having to set up a steam
bender. I have plans for one but have
not pursued it. The concept of using white vinegar seems relatively simple
and does take more prep time,
but is simple. I have dones some bending but mostly kerf bending and some
heat bending over a pipe,
a trick I learned from George VonDriska.
Over all I think all of us should have some technique of bending down and I
think this one you mentioned
would be pretty simple to use.
Thanks for sharing.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:47 AM  wrote:

> Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting
>
>
>
> https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: Side Cutting on the Legacy vs the Nova O. T.

[Tim Ziegler]

For sure Bill.

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 8:11 AM  wrote:

> Very similar to the legacy brick pattern very nice Tim I’m still green lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:09 PM
> *To:* LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Side Cutting on the Legacy vs the Nova O. T.
>
>
>
> Did an interesting test last night on the Nova Ornamental Turner Jig,
> which I have done also on my LOM 1200. This particular cutter however can
> do radius or profiles because of the direction you can come in at, not just
> from the side but the cutter is turning in a way that the cut is made in a
> up or down motion.
>
> I could possibly do this with my horizontal router mounted in the LOM, but
> may have a higher chance of burning as the RPMs are a fair amount higher.
>
> The piece in the picture was done on the lathe at about 1000 RPM's.
>
> I did get some chipping and as you can see the first couple rows were in
> alignment with each other and was supposed to be staggered. Oops
>
> Now on another note: If you want this pattern in a flat and not radiused
> you can
>
> do this on your Legacy with your current router position running from the
> top and a small flat bottom cut bit and your indexing plate. This pattern
> is sometimes referred to as the basket weave pattern.
>
> Very nice patterns for small round boxes.
>
> Give it a try and see what you can come up with. Maybe many of you have
> already done this and have some projects to share
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
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>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
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>
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Re: FW: Rotary Table mod.

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey John,

I really don't have a trick, but do keep the set screws somewhat snuggle
and Lots of times if I have a free
hand I will keep it on the hand wheel. Also if its vibrating to much I will
sometimes slow the router RPM down
a bit and that helps. Re-chucking up the bit for better balance helps too.
I have thought about putting an extended bolt in to replace one of the
allen screws that we keep some pressure
on and adding a star knob to just snug up to keep it from vibrating down.
Also possibly a pressure lock of sorts
right on the hand wheel at base of it so its out of the way.
Not sure if any of that helps John. Just what I think about and or do.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 8:28 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Can you send a picture of the lock?
> On 6/27/2024 6:08 PM, John Von Brandt wrote:
>
> Tim, what trick can I use to keep my depth lock from loosentng?
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 3:46 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Wiil post pix of that in the next day or two. I have to dig out the pix
>> for it.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:42 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Now that sounds interesting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Tim Ziegler 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 1:17 PM
>>> *To:* M.W.Foscue 
>>> *Cc:* bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Rotary Table mod.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Mac,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes fun project.
>>>
>>> I also have another mod I could share where I ran full 8 foot material
>>> on my 1200.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:24 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Yes - I was able to open all 5.
>>>
>>> Nice work, Tim!
>>>
>>> Thanks to both of you.
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Jun 26, 2024 9:35 PM
>>> To: Mac 
>>> Subject: FW: Rotary Table mod.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did they come through now mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 9:40 PM
>>> *To:* LOM Group 
>>> *Subject:* Rotary Table mod.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I
>>>
>>> did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but
>>> after blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and
>>> re-round it.
>>>
>>> I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth
>>> Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set
>>> that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to
>>> bring the machine back to it's originality.
>>>
>>> See pix.
>>>
>>> Questions welcomed.
>&

Re: Rotary Table mod.

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Dan

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:09 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Pics no problem here.  Thanks, Tim.
> DanK
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 11:41:37 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
>> Oh yes easy
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 1:15 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Rotary Table mod.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill and you saw the pix right?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:54 PM  wrote:
>>
>> As I said before brilliant Tim brilliant
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 9:40 PM
>> *To:* LOM Group 
>> *Subject:* Rotary Table mod.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>>
>>
>> As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I
>>
>> did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but
>> after blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and
>> re-round it.
>>
>> I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth
>> Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set
>> that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to
>> bring the machine back to it's originality.
>>
>> See pix.
>>
>> Questions welcomed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
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Re: FW: Rotary Table mod.

[Tim Ziegler]

Wiil post pix of that in the next day or two. I have to dig out the pix for
it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:42 PM  wrote:

> Now that sounds interesting
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* Tim Ziegler 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 1:17 PM
> *To:* M.W.Foscue 
> *Cc:* bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Rotary Table mod.
>
>
>
> Thanks Mac,
>
>
>
> Yes fun project.
>
> I also have another mod I could share where I ran full 8 foot material on
> my 1200.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:24 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes - I was able to open all 5.
>
> Nice work, Tim!
>
> Thanks to both of you.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jun 26, 2024 9:35 PM
> To: Mac 
> Subject: FW: Rotary Table mod.
>
>
>
> Did they come through now mac
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 9:40 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Rotary Table mod.
>
>
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
> As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I
>
> did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but after
> blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and re-round
> it.
>
> I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth
> Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set
> that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to
> bring the machine back to it's originality.
>
> See pix.
>
> Questions welcomed.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
>

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Re: Rotary Table mod.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill, I got them to open too.
As I sent it to myself to see what was happening.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:30 PM  wrote:

> No they open ok for me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 8:51 AM
> *To:* LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com>; MWF 
> *Subject:* Re: Rotary Table mod.
>
>
>
> Has anyone had any problems opening these pix?
>
> Mac will these open now?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 6:40 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
> As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I
>
> did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but after
> blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and re-round
> it.
>
> I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth
> Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set
> that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to
> bring the machine back to it's originality.
>
> See pix.
>
> Questions welcomed.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Rotary Table mod.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill and you saw the pix right?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:54 PM  wrote:

> As I said before brilliant Tim brilliant
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 9:40 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Rotary Table mod.
>
>
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
> As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I
>
> did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but after
> blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and re-round
> it.
>
> I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth
> Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set
> that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to
> bring the machine back to it's originality.
>
> See pix.
>
> Questions welcomed.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Rotary Table mod.

[Tim Ziegler]

Has anyone had any problems opening these pix?
Mac will these open now?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 6:40 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I
> did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but after
> blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and re-round
> it.
> I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth
> Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set
> that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to
> bring the machine back to it's originality.
> See pix.
> Questions welcomed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>

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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Joe,

Well you are absolutely right you know. I have not ruled out the CNC world
but I agree its nice to see some production
from our machines. That is what I originally bought my 1200 for was to
incorporate it into my cabinet, and furniture making and repair. I
have done several product runs through it. Not like you and Mike of course
but some. I do still enjoy a challenge and to see  what I can all do on
them, when time permits. I got into this game much later then several of
you so I am still playing catch up lol.
Not sure if that one pic showed my Horizontal router I custom mounted in on
those last pix or not. but again another fun
project just to see if I could do it. I also have a fancy chuck I
innovated into my rotary table. (The Longworth)That works pretty ok.
One thing I don't do is mods that will not let me return my machine to its
original form. All I have done on my 1200 I can take back off and go right
back to it.
Now my REVO HYBRID EXT that's a different story. That was born from 3 other
machines and has its own personality for sure.
Again thanks for your input. Really appreciate it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:42 PM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> for the record... I need to remind myself that my perspective towards the
> Legacy is strictly from a business (make some money!) viewpoint... and I
> might think that is the same for others... although I enjoy(ed) working and
> modifying my machine, it was always with the intention of it helping the
> shop produce billable work... taking it past that goal just did not seem
> prudent for me at the time... I'm extremely impressed with the work that a
> lot of the people in this group are making, both as an end product and the
> mods to the equipment to get those products made... I had a lot of plans to
> further  the mods to my machine, but the realization of what CNC equipment
> is capable of doing made me rethink my ambitions... the idea of what our
> Legacys can do and how unique it is(was), was what motivated me in the
> first place... take that away and it just doesn't seem like fun anymore...
> the fact that a person in their teens, with computer skills and a simple
> CNC machine can easily copy what would take us a good amount of time to do
> on our manual machines, is dishearting... and CNC equipment is quickly
> becoming affordable...  even older, used equipment is more affordable as it
> is being replaced by newer versions... as far as using a Legacy for
> personal use, I think is great... but for making money in a business
> setting, not so much... and I am too close to calling it quits to make the
> plunge into the CNC world, so I am sticking with my Legacy... some random
> thoughts on a slow day... Joe B.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 2:14:15 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> Great info and thanks for all the feedback as well. I agree with the size
>> thing. We are very limited to size.
>> Even if I did it on the LOM it's limited to less then 12 inch.
>> All that being said though this is a very exciting adventure and I want
>> to continue to pursue it.
>> Yes I follow those Rose ornamental turning lathe guys too and they make
>> me sightly envious
>> but I think I have a lot of fun doing what I do. CNC yes maybe, We have a
>> very large Laser Engraver
>> too that I think I can do some incredible things as well.
>> Thanks again Joe I appreciate the feedback.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:56 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>>> Tim's post highlights exactly what my biggest beef was with traditional
>>> ornamental turning... incredible things can be done  with a Holtzapffel or
>>> the piece that Tim used(fairly sure I know what it that is... and nice work
>>> Tim!)... but the limit in the size capacity is what always bothered me and
>>> motivated me to increase my Legacy to the size that it is... as nice as the
>>> piece that Tim did is, details that small will have a tough time once clear
>>> coats, paint or other finishes are applied... to me, the solution is to
>>> make larger pieces, which then larger and deeper decorative cuts can be
>>> milled into the piece... check out some large and incredible ornamental
>>> milling from

Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Joe,

Great info and thanks for all the feedback as well. I agree with the size
thing. We are very limited to size.
Even if I did it on the LOM it's limited to less then 12 inch.
All that being said though this is a very exciting adventure and I want to
continue to pursue it.
Yes I follow those Rose ornamental turning lathe guys too and they make me
sightly envious
but I think I have a lot of fun doing what I do. CNC yes maybe, We have a
very large Laser Engraver
too that I think I can do some incredible things as well.
Thanks again Joe I appreciate the feedback.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:56 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> Tim's post highlights exactly what my biggest beef was with traditional
> ornamental turning... incredible things can be done  with a Holtzapffel or
> the piece that Tim used(fairly sure I know what it that is... and nice work
> Tim!)... but the limit in the size capacity is what always bothered me and
> motivated me to increase my Legacy to the size that it is... as nice as the
> piece that Tim did is, details that small will have a tough time once clear
> coats, paint or other finishes are applied... to me, the solution is to
> make larger pieces, which then larger and deeper decorative cuts can be
> milled into the piece... check out some large and incredible ornamental
> milling from my former landlord, Harvey Fein...  HARVEYFEIN.NET
> <http://www.harveyfein.net/fein_woods/3_stories/index.html> ... I got to
> see Harvey's equipment and jigs up close, since his work studio was in the
> building my shop was in... incredibly designed jigs that was difficult to
> understand... but his work was large and impressive... this helped to
> inspire me to modify my equipment... then CNC came very much into use and
> somewhat more affordable to the masses, and put all my ideas on the back
> burner , since a CNC can out perform practically any jig and offer doing it
> at a size we can only dream about(imagine a 4ft by 4ft turned and
> ornamentally milled disc!)... anyway, with that being said, I'll put it out
> there for for anyone(hey Tim!) to modify and enlarge the piece/accessory
> that Tim is using and make something with some size!... go big or go
> home!... LOL!... my best to all... Joe Biunno
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 7:24:28 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Thanks Roger,
>> Practicing up to decorate a bowl at some point.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 5:53 AM Ccm Ccm  wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 22, 2024, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
>>>> a little experiment on tonight.
>>>> Any guesses to what I did it one?
>>>> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>>
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>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Roger,
Practicing up to decorate a bowl at some point.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 5:53 AM Ccm Ccm  wrote:

> Very nice
>
> On Saturday, June 22, 2024, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
>> a little experiment on tonight.
>> Any guesses to what I did it one?
>> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey John,

these videos are floating around, They actually used to be on the LOM
sight.
Not sure if Tim Krause can send you a digital copy of them or not?
They are very helpful.
This little project was done on my Nova Ornamental attachment, but some of
it can be done on the LOM too.
I tried several things before I purchased this jig for my actual lathe.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:35 PM John Von Brandt 
wrote:

> Tim,
> I read somewhere that there is a DVD of ten projects for me to practice
> with my LOM. If you know of some., please let me know. I need a good
> kindergarten class so I have the basics down.
> Thank you
> John Von brandt
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:30 PM John Von Brandt 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>> Just a quick question. I’ve had a couple of projects go south simply
>> because the knob  for the  plunge stop vibrates loose.I’ve cranked it
>> pretty hard an viola! The random autoplunge!
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
>>> a little experiment on tonight.
>>> Any guesses to what I did it one?
>>> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah its all a learning curve for me and I could see where that might
happen.
A person can not be in a hurry with it either. and Everything needs to
remain shallow.
Lot of fun though isn't it John?


Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:30 PM John Von Brandt 
wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> Just a quick question. I’ve had a couple of projects go south simply
> because the knob  for the  plunge stop vibrates loose.I’ve cranked it
> pretty hard an viola! The random autoplunge!
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
>> a little experiment on tonight.
>> Any guesses to what I did it one?
>> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mac,

not unfortunately it was not my REVO, but it was my Nova Ornamental jig on
my big lathe.
Lots of fun and stay tuned for more to come.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:27 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Nice!
>
> You love your Revo so much - I'll guess you made it using your Revo.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jun 22, 2024 11:06 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: A little Decoration
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
> a little experiment on tonight.
> Any guesses to what I did it one?
> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

Thats because you know what I did it on right Bill?
Kind Regards,

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On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:19 AM  wrote:

> I’m green with envy lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* A little Decoration
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
>
> a little experiment on tonight.
>
> Any guesses to what I did it one?
>
> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
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>
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Re: A little Decoration

[Tim Ziegler]

 Hey Mac I will answer once I have checked all the email lol.

Kind Regards,

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On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:27 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Nice!
>
> You love your Revo so much - I'll guess you made it using your Revo.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jun 22, 2024 11:06 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: A little Decoration
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did
> a little experiment on tonight.
> Any guesses to what I did it one?
> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

[Tim Ziegler]

lol what about that coffee can buried out back lol

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 7:15 PM  wrote:

> Do I look like I’m as rich as Donald trump lol unless all the shipping is
> free then that aint gonna happen lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2024 9:01 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Here's your chance!  Theres enough there for you to charter a 40 foot ISO
> shipping container, fill it with these LOM's and all the related
> accessories, and have it shipped out of the Port of Baltimore (in Maryland)
> to your nearest port Down Under!
>
> And, if there is any space left once the LOMs are loaded, fill them with a
> bunch of wood from here.
>
>
>
> Keep us posted!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jun 22, 2024 5:38 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> Yes I was to understand it was for the whole lot I don’t like his chances
> for a sale at 8K
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2024 1:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep
> this post active so it helps you in selling.
>
> So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then?
>
> I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley 
> wrote:
>
> For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800
>
> *HEALTH Issues are driving this sale*
>
> It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit
> (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate
> Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.
> There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used
> accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that
> go with the machine*.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP WHAT
> YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.*
>
> *The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer*
>
> I will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You!
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #1*
>
> Router Frame
>
> 2 Lathe Centers
>
> Elevation Supports – 2
>
> Supports – 2
>
> PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2
>
> Router Bit Rack
>
> Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3
>
> Router Tracer Base
>
> 4 Pc Bracket Support
>
> Drive Unit with Index
>
> Support Bracket
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #2*
>
> Router Drive
>
> Elevation Support – 2
>
> Router Support – 2
>
> Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear
>
> Hand Crank – 2
>
> Gear Assembly
>
> Index Shaft
>
> Support – 4
>
> Horizontal Support
>
> Half Nut – 3
>
> Drive Shaft Support – 4
>
> Drive Gear Small
>
> Plastic Spacers – 9
>
> Square Connectors – 13
>
> L Connectors – 2
>
> Elevation Connectors – 2
>
> 2 Bolt Connectors – 13
>
> 3 Bolt Connectors – 2
>
> Variety Bolts
>
> Tail Stock Drive
>
> Jacobs Chuck
>
> Lathe Face Plate – 2
>
> Router Base
>
> 3” Face Plate
>
> Allen Wrenches – 6
>
> Shim – 2
>
> Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2
>
> Drive Pin Headstock
>
> Form (Octagon)
>
> Eliminator Chuck – 2
>
> Short 80/20 – 2
>
> Hand Cranks – 2
>
> Brackets – 4
>
> Gear Supports – 2
>
> Bracket Supports – 4
>
> Triangle Supports – 2
>
> Feet – 4
>
> Router Wrench – 4
>
> Bolts – 3 – Bags
>
> Ball Allen Wrench
>
> Dogs – 2
>
> Drive Gears – 2
>
> Spacers – 2
>
> Dust Blocker
>
> Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box
>
> Thin Stock Support - Box
>
> Spindle Pattern - Box
>
> Eliminator Chuck

Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

[Tim Ziegler]

yup sounds like a plan Bill. and its even got a drive and motor for you.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 6:01 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> Here's your chance!  Theres enough there for you to charter a 40 foot ISO
> shipping container, fill it with these LOM's and all the related
> accessories, and have it shipped out of the Port of Baltimore (in Maryland)
> to your nearest port Down Under!
>
> And, if there is any space left once the LOMs are loaded, fill them with a
> bunch of wood from here.
>
>
>
> Keep us posted!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jun 22, 2024 5:38 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> Yes I was to understand it was for the whole lot I don’t like his chances
> for a sale at 8K
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2024 1:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep
> this post active so it helps you in selling.
>
> So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then?
>
> I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley 
> wrote:
>
> For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800
>
> *HEALTH Issues are driving this sale*
>
> It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit
> (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate
> Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.
> There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used
> accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that
> go with the machine*.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP WHAT
> YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.*
>
> *The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer*
>
> I will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You!
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #1*
>
> Router Frame
>
> 2 Lathe Centers
>
> Elevation Supports – 2
>
> Supports – 2
>
> PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2
>
> Router Bit Rack
>
> Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3
>
> Router Tracer Base
>
> 4 Pc Bracket Support
>
> Drive Unit with Index
>
> Support Bracket
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #2*
>
> Router Drive
>
> Elevation Support – 2
>
> Router Support – 2
>
> Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear
>
> Hand Crank – 2
>
> Gear Assembly
>
> Index Shaft
>
> Support – 4
>
> Horizontal Support
>
> Half Nut – 3
>
> Drive Shaft Support – 4
>
> Drive Gear Small
>
> Plastic Spacers – 9
>
> Square Connectors – 13
>
> L Connectors – 2
>
> Elevation Connectors – 2
>
> 2 Bolt Connectors – 13
>
> 3 Bolt Connectors – 2
>
> Variety Bolts
>
> Tail Stock Drive
>
> Jacobs Chuck
>
> Lathe Face Plate – 2
>
> Router Base
>
> 3” Face Plate
>
> Allen Wrenches – 6
>
> Shim – 2
>
> Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2
>
> Drive Pin Headstock
>
> Form (Octagon)
>
> Eliminator Chuck – 2
>
> Short 80/20 – 2
>
> Hand Cranks – 2
>
> Brackets – 4
>
> Gear Supports – 2
>
> Bracket Supports – 4
>
> Triangle Supports – 2
>
> Feet – 4
>
> Router Wrench – 4
>
> Bolts – 3 – Bags
>
> Ball Allen Wrench
>
> Dogs – 2
>
> Drive Gears – 2
>
> Spacers – 2
>
> Dust Blocker
>
> Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box
>
> Thin Stock Support - Box
>
> Spindle Pattern - Box
>
> Eliminator Chuck - Box
>
> Right Hand Spiral Drive - Box
>
> Dogs – 6 – Box
>
> Template Follower - Box
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #3*
>
> 4” Binder with hundreds of pages of projects
>
> Assembly Instructions 200/ 800/ 900/ 1200/ 1800/ 2000 and Accessories /
> Owner Manuals – 4
>
> Ornamental Milling – 4
>
> Magnate – 3
>
> DVR Model 800 EX – 1
>
> Contour Follower – 1
>
> DVR Pr

Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

[Tim Ziegler]

Oh but it would be so much fun.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 11:25 AM Jeff Richmond 
wrote:

> Ditto on that ….. though I am pretty sure 4x8 Maverick with an ATC option
> is closer to 50K
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 22, 2024, at 9:25 AM, Ryan Jurgens  wrote:
>
> 
>
> After looking at the list of items and seeing the pictures, there is this
> tug on the whole man cave heart that says I wish I had a lot of excess
> money to buy toys that could be used to build things.
>
>
>
> But then . . . if I had that kind of money I believe I would buy the
> Legacy CNC Maverick 4 x 8 with auto tool changer.
>
> Yes, that would be my choice . . .
>
>
>
> But I hope someone can use the lot, it is an impressive collection. Likely
> will need to come down on the price, but that again is someone else’s
> decision to haggle that out if they are interested.
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2024 4:38 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> Yes I was to understand it was for the whole lot I don’t like his chances
> for a sale at 8K
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2024 1:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep
> this post active so it helps you in selling.
>
> So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then?
>
> I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley 
> wrote:
>
> For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800
>
> *HEALTH Issues are driving this sale*
>
> It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit
> (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate
> Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.
> There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used
> accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that
> go with the machine*.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP WHAT
> YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.*
>
> *The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer*
>
> I will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You!
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #1*
>
> Router Frame
>
> 2 Lathe Centers
>
> Elevation Supports – 2
>
> Supports – 2
>
> PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2
>
> Router Bit Rack
>
> Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3
>
> Router Tracer Base
>
> 4 Pc Bracket Support
>
> Drive Unit with Index
>
> Support Bracket
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #2*
>
> Router Drive
>
> Elevation Support – 2
>
> Router Support – 2
>
> Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear
>
> Hand Crank – 2
>
> Gear Assembly
>
> Index Shaft
>
> Support – 4
>
> Horizontal Support
>
> Half Nut – 3
>
> Drive Shaft Support – 4
>
> Drive Gear Small
>
> Plastic Spacers – 9
>
> Square Connectors – 13
>
> L Connectors – 2
>
> Elevation Connectors – 2
>
> 2 Bolt Connectors – 13
>
> 3 Bolt Connectors – 2
>
> Variety Bolts
>
> Tail Stock Drive
>
> Jacobs Chuck
>
> Lathe Face Plate – 2
>
> Router Base
>
> 3” Face Plate
>
> Allen Wrenches – 6
>
> Shim – 2
>
> Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2
>
> Drive Pin Headstock
>
> Form (Octagon)
>
> Eliminator Chuck – 2
>
> Short 80/20 – 2
>
> Hand Cranks – 2
>
> Brackets – 4
>
> Gear Supports – 2
>
> Bracket Supports – 4
>
> Triangle Supports – 2
>
> Feet – 4
>
> Router Wrench – 4
>
> Bolts – 3 – Bags
>
> Ball Allen Wrench
>
> Dogs – 2
>
> Drive Gears – 2
>
> Spacers – 2
>
> Dust Blocker
>
> Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box
>
> Thin Stock Support - Box
>
> Spindle Patte

Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Ryan,

Yes thanks for the input for sure. Guess we will see.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 8:25 AM Ryan Jurgens 
wrote:

> After looking at the list of items and seeing the pictures, there is this
> tug on the whole man cave heart that says I wish I had a lot of excess
> money to buy toys that could be used to build things.
>
>
>
> But then . . . if I had that kind of money I believe I would buy the
> Legacy CNC Maverick 4 x 8 with auto tool changer.
>
> Yes, that would be my choice . . .
>
>
>
> But I hope someone can use the lot, it is an impressive collection. Likely
> will need to come down on the price, but that again is someone else’s
> decision to haggle that out if they are interested.
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2024 4:38 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> Yes I was to understand it was for the whole lot I don’t like his chances
> for a sale at 8K
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2024 1:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LEGACY FOR SALE
>
>
>
> That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep
> this post active so it helps you in selling.
>
> So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then?
>
> I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley 
> wrote:
>
> For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800
>
> *HEALTH Issues are driving this sale*
>
> It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit
> (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate
> Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.
> There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used
> accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that
> go with the machine*.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP WHAT
> YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.*
>
> *The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer*
>
> I will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You!
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #1*
>
> Router Frame
>
> 2 Lathe Centers
>
> Elevation Supports – 2
>
> Supports – 2
>
> PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2
>
> Router Bit Rack
>
> Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3
>
> Router Tracer Base
>
> 4 Pc Bracket Support
>
> Drive Unit with Index
>
> Support Bracket
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #2*
>
> Router Drive
>
> Elevation Support – 2
>
> Router Support – 2
>
> Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear
>
> Hand Crank – 2
>
> Gear Assembly
>
> Index Shaft
>
> Support – 4
>
> Horizontal Support
>
> Half Nut – 3
>
> Drive Shaft Support – 4
>
> Drive Gear Small
>
> Plastic Spacers – 9
>
> Square Connectors – 13
>
> L Connectors – 2
>
> Elevation Connectors – 2
>
> 2 Bolt Connectors – 13
>
> 3 Bolt Connectors – 2
>
> Variety Bolts
>
> Tail Stock Drive
>
> Jacobs Chuck
>
> Lathe Face Plate – 2
>
> Router Base
>
> 3” Face Plate
>
> Allen Wrenches – 6
>
> Shim – 2
>
> Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2
>
> Drive Pin Headstock
>
> Form (Octagon)
>
> Eliminator Chuck – 2
>
> Short 80/20 – 2
>
> Hand Cranks – 2
>
> Brackets – 4
>
> Gear Supports – 2
>
> Bracket Supports – 4
>
> Triangle Supports – 2
>
> Feet – 4
>
> Router Wrench – 4
>
> Bolts – 3 – Bags
>
> Ball Allen Wrench
>
> Dogs – 2
>
> Drive Gears – 2
>
> Spacers – 2
>
> Dust Blocker
>
> Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box
>
> Thin Stock Support - Box
>
> Spindle Pattern - Box
>
> Eliminator Chuck - Box
>
> Right Hand Spiral Drive - Box
>
> Dogs – 6 – Box
>
> Template Follower - Box
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #3*
>
> 4” Binder with hundreds of p

Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

[Tim Ziegler]

So what are you asking for this one machine you just mentioned then?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 2:00 PM Donald Donley  wrote:

> Thank you for your help.  Everything is for the Professional Grade Legacy
> 1800 machine, many accessories and approximately 70 magnate bits collected
> over the years for this machine.  It is located in Crisfield, MD.
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 11:05 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
>> That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep
>> this post active so it helps you in selling.
>> So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then?
>> I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800
>>>
>>> *HEALTH Issues are driving this sale*
>>>
>>> It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit
>>> (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate
>>> Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.
>>> There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used
>>> accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that
>>> go with the machine*.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP
>>> WHAT YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.*
>>>
>>> *The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer*
>>>
>>> I will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You!
>>>
>>>
>>> *LEGACY #1*
>>>
>>> Router Frame
>>>
>>> 2 Lathe Centers
>>>
>>> Elevation Supports – 2
>>>
>>> Supports – 2
>>>
>>> PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2
>>>
>>> Router Bit Rack
>>>
>>> Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3
>>>
>>> Router Tracer Base
>>>
>>> 4 Pc Bracket Support
>>>
>>> Drive Unit with Index
>>>
>>> Support Bracket
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *LEGACY #2*
>>>
>>> Router Drive
>>>
>>> Elevation Support – 2
>>>
>>> Router Support – 2
>>>
>>> Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.
>>>
>>> 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear
>>>
>>> 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear
>>>
>>> Hand Crank – 2
>>>
>>> Gear Assembly
>>>
>>> Index Shaft
>>>
>>> Support – 4
>>>
>>> Horizontal Support
>>>
>>> Half Nut – 3
>>>
>>> Drive Shaft Support – 4
>>>
>>> Drive Gear Small
>>>
>>> Plastic Spacers – 9
>>>
>>> Square Connectors – 13
>>>
>>> L Connectors – 2
>>>
>>> Elevation Connectors – 2
>>>
>>> 2 Bolt Connectors – 13
>>>
>>> 3 Bolt Connectors – 2
>>>
>>> Variety Bolts
>>>
>>> Tail Stock Drive
>>>
>>> Jacobs Chuck
>>>
>>> Lathe Face Plate – 2
>>>
>>> Router Base
>>>
>>> 3” Face Plate
>>>
>>> Allen Wrenches – 6
>>>
>>> Shim – 2
>>>
>>> Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2
>>>
>>> Drive Pin Headstock
>>>
>>> Form (Octagon)
>>>
>>> Eliminator Chuck – 2
>>>
>>> Short 80/20 – 2
>>>
>>> Hand Cranks – 2
>>>
>>> Brackets – 4
>>>
>>> Gear Supports – 2
>>>
>>> Bracket Supports – 4
>>>
>>> Triangle Supports – 2
>>>
>>> Feet – 4
>>>
>>> Router Wrench – 4
>>>
>>> Bolts – 3 – Bags
>>>
>>> Ball Allen Wrench
>>>
>>> Dogs – 2
>>>
>>> Drive Gears – 2
>>>
>>> Spacers – 2
>>>
>>> Dust Blocker
>>>
>>> Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box
>>>
>>> Thin Stock Support - Box
>>>
>>> Spindle Pattern - Box
>>>
>>> Eliminator Chuck - Box
>>>
>>> Right Hand Spiral Drive - Box
>>>
&g

Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

[Tim Ziegler]

That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep this
post active so it helps you in selling.
So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then?
I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley  wrote:

> For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800
>
> *HEALTH Issues are driving this sale*
>
> It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit
> (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate
> Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.
> There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used
> accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that
> go with the machine*.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP WHAT
> YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.*
>
> *The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer*
>
> I will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You!
>
>
> *LEGACY #1*
>
> Router Frame
>
> 2 Lathe Centers
>
> Elevation Supports – 2
>
> Supports – 2
>
> PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2
>
> Router Bit Rack
>
> Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3
>
> Router Tracer Base
>
> 4 Pc Bracket Support
>
> Drive Unit with Index
>
> Support Bracket
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #2*
>
> Router Drive
>
> Elevation Support – 2
>
> Router Support – 2
>
> Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear
>
> 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear
>
> Hand Crank – 2
>
> Gear Assembly
>
> Index Shaft
>
> Support – 4
>
> Horizontal Support
>
> Half Nut – 3
>
> Drive Shaft Support – 4
>
> Drive Gear Small
>
> Plastic Spacers – 9
>
> Square Connectors – 13
>
> L Connectors – 2
>
> Elevation Connectors – 2
>
> 2 Bolt Connectors – 13
>
> 3 Bolt Connectors – 2
>
> Variety Bolts
>
> Tail Stock Drive
>
> Jacobs Chuck
>
> Lathe Face Plate – 2
>
> Router Base
>
> 3” Face Plate
>
> Allen Wrenches – 6
>
> Shim – 2
>
> Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2
>
> Drive Pin Headstock
>
> Form (Octagon)
>
> Eliminator Chuck – 2
>
> Short 80/20 – 2
>
> Hand Cranks – 2
>
> Brackets – 4
>
> Gear Supports – 2
>
> Bracket Supports – 4
>
> Triangle Supports – 2
>
> Feet – 4
>
> Router Wrench – 4
>
> Bolts – 3 – Bags
>
> Ball Allen Wrench
>
> Dogs – 2
>
> Drive Gears – 2
>
> Spacers – 2
>
> Dust Blocker
>
> Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box
>
> Thin Stock Support - Box
>
> Spindle Pattern - Box
>
> Eliminator Chuck - Box
>
> Right Hand Spiral Drive - Box
>
> Dogs – 6 – Box
>
> Template Follower - Box
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #3*
>
> 4” Binder with hundreds of pages of projects
>
> Assembly Instructions 200/ 800/ 900/ 1200/ 1800/ 2000 and Accessories /
> Owner Manuals – 4
>
> Ornamental Milling – 4
>
> Magnate – 3
>
> DVR Model 800 EX – 1
>
> Contour Follower – 1
>
> DVR Projects 1-5, 6-10
>
> Hollow Spirals – 1
>
> Design Kit
>
> DVD – Training DVD (1&2) – 2, Demo – 3, Model 900, Legacy Design Kit
>
> Design Kit
>
> Garden Arbor
>
> Legacy Design Kit with Templates
>
> Index Hubs (Box)
>
> Router Reducer
>
> X and Z Table – Hardware
>
> Handle
>
> Drive Gears
>
> Ball Allen Wrenches – 3
>
> 3” 3-Ring Binder – Projects, etc.
>
> Ornamental Milling Volume 7
>
> 1” 3-Ring Binder – Manuals, etc. – 3
>
> Binders, Manuals/Assembly – 3
>
> Magnate Bit Profiles
>
> Accessories, Manuals, etc.
>
>
>
> *MAGNATE ROUTER BITS*
>
> 3952 - Classic Spiral
>
> 3934 - Classic Plunge
>
> 2704 - Bottom Cleaning Bit
>
> 7571 - Rope Molding
>
> 7551 - Barley Twist
>
> 7561 - Shallow C/PT
>
> 5463 – Bird Mouth
>
> 3952 – Classic Spiral - 2
>
> 5567 – Horizontal Crown
>
> 7563 – Shallow C/PT
>
> 3482 – Double Bead Plunge
>
> 1285 – Plunge Flat Roundover
>
> 810 – Core Box
>
> 351 – Plunge Bottom
>
> 7501 – Plunge Point Round
>
> 7561 – Shallow Classic
>
> 3481 – Double Bead Plunge
>
> 7531 – Rope Molding
>
> 8270 – Straight Bits
>
> 1282 – Plunge Flat Round
>
> 5265B – Straight Bit
>
> 7554 – Barley Twist
>
> 809 – Core Box Bits
>
> 3934 – Classic Plunge
>
> 2704 – Bottom Cleaning Bit
>
> S263 – Straight Bits
>
> S7802 – Bowl & Tray
>
> 807 – Core Box Bits
>
> 2704 – Bottom Cleaning Bit
>
> 3935 – Classic Plunge
>
> 7562 – Shallow Classic Point
>
> S-7623 – Pattern
>
> 7581 – Rope Molding
>
> 709 – V Grooving Bit
>
> 7676 – Side Reeding
>
> 805 – Core Box
>
> 706 – 90 degree V Grooving
>
> 3933 – Classic Plunge
>
> 3484 – Double Bead Plunge
>
> 7502 – Plunge Point Round
>
> 7592 – Rope Molding
>
>
>
> Dust Cover for 1800 LOM
>
> DVD – Assembly/Fast Start
>
> DVD – Ornamental Milling Projects 1-10 (2 DVDs)
>
> 60” EX Cover
>
> LOM 400 Assembly/Owner’s Manual
>
> Accessory Folders - 4
>
>
>
> *LEGACY #4*
>
> Rotary Table
>
> Rotary Table with Mounting Disc
>
> Indexing Disc – 7
>
> Template Router Guide
>
> Router Base
>
> Dust Cover
>
> Dust Pick Up – 2
>
> Router Base – 2
>
> Router Wrench – 2
>
> Center Jig
>
> Bracket
>
> HSS Cutter
>
> 

Re: router crafter

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes indeed, and that's why I have the LOM's and my Nova Ornamental Turners
jig.
The sky is the limit in what one can do with an imagination.
Great stuff for sure. Great videos.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 11:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi guys.
>
> Its all "Eye Candy" (Things that Dreams are made of.) ;-)
>
> I use to work with a man, who told me, His Wife dose not care where his
> apatite comes form, Just as long as
> he comes home to eat.
>
> The copy carver works along those lines.  It dose not matter where the
> idea came form, If I can use an idea... it may open up a world of
> possibility's for future projects.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 06:58:19 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah some very good stuff Bill. Always fascinating all the stuff out
> there.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 2:05 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea I said he had a couple of other good ones too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey there everyone.
>
>
>
> I Just found another video by the same guy.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
>
>
>
> I think this one is also pretty neat.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:
>
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah some very good stuff Bill. Always fascinating all the stuff out there.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 2:05 AM  wrote:

> Yea I said he had a couple of other good ones too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey there everyone.
>
>
>
> I Just found another video by the same guy.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
>
>
>
> I think this one is also pretty neat.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:
>
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt,

Now I really better get going on things on my end for sure.
Thanks for the awesome videos. Very good information.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:36 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey there everyone.
>
> I Just found another video by the same guy.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
>
> I think this one is also pretty neat.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:
>
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

[Tim Ziegler]

Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:

> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
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> some of his other videos are good too
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Re: Father's Day

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Thank you Sir

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, 4:57 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Tim 
>
> Ditto to all
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
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> 
> Happy Father's Day to all you fathers our there.
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Re: Father's Day

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Wow they don't say Down under for nothing lol.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, 4:47 PM  wrote:

> Not for me our father’s day is first Sunday in September
>
>
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> Bill
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> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
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>
>
> Happy Father's Day to all you fathers our there.
>
> Blessings on your day.
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>
> With Prayers,
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Re: Father's Day

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Thx Curt

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> Thank you Tim.
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> And I Hope, You have a GREAT Day as well. ;-)
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> C.A.G.
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Father's Day

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Happy Father's Day to all you fathers our there.
Blessings on your day.

With Prayers,


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Re: flat stock clamping

[Tim Ziegler]

Oh hey Praying for fast recovery, and healing. Keep in touch.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024, 4:51 PM Cole Andrews  wrote:

> Right now I am working on my Icon corner ,we're orthodox . I am on
> disability right due to cancer so I work on it on days when I feel
> good
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 2:51 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Cole,
> >
> > Great to hear from you. Can you share a few pix of what you're doing?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Timothy J. Ziegler
> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> > 14171 160th Ave.
> > Foreston MN 56330
> >
> > 320-294-5798 shop
> > 320-630-2243 cell
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 2:08 PM Cole Andrews 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes already trying to go that direction for as many jigs as I can.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 9:43 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yeah that is pretty slick Bill, thanks for sharing that.
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Timothy J. Ziegler
> >> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> >> > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> >> > 14171 160th Ave.
> >> > Foreston MN 56330
> >> >
> >> > 320-294-5798 shop
> >> > 320-630-2243 cell
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 6:28 PM  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCgoUQilVQ=4s_channel=MICROJIG
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I think this system might be really good for flat stock work on the
> legacy, just mill up a base board mount it to the rails and set up your
> work.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also would work on the rotary table too. I think this is just what
> we need for our mills what do you all think?
> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: flat stock clamping

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Cole,

Great to hear from you. Can you share a few pix of what you're doing?

Kind Regards,

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On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 2:08 PM Cole Andrews 
wrote:

> Yes already trying to go that direction for as many jigs as I can.
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 9:43 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah that is pretty slick Bill, thanks for sharing that.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Timothy J. Ziegler
> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> > 14171 160th Ave.
> > Foreston MN 56330
> >
> > 320-294-5798 shop
> > 320-630-2243 cell
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 6:28 PM  wrote:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCgoUQilVQ=4s_channel=MICROJIG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think this system might be really good for flat stock work on the
> legacy, just mill up a base board mount it to the rails and set up your
> work.
> >>
> >> Also would work on the rotary table too. I think this is just what we
> need for our mills what do you all think?
> >>
> >>
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Re: Today's project

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No I said what are you going to put it on. Use it for. lol.
Kind Regards,

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On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 10:04 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Put on it?
>
> I had plan to make it into a magnifying glass handle.
> I still have not found a better product to make using bone.
> Pens and other tool, just seem wrong for bone. Its both the size factor of
> what I can make, as well as the type of tool needed. If dropped bone can
> crack or break.  A Magnifying glass will break if its misused, so you need
> to take care of it. the two were made in the same mind-set.   Perhaps a
> china bell or some other, "Old Lady" type of tools could be made using
> bone. but at this time the Magnifying glass is the best object that I know
> of to use this bone process for.
> This is a learning experience for me.  NOT Only how to turn bone, but to
> make new and different shapes and designs/patterns, on my spindles that I
> make out of bone.
>
> So I am hoping someone will come up with a better idea, for me . But until
> that time happens , I will be just making bone handles. And one day mount
> the Magnifying glass on to the bone to make a finished project.
>
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 10:41:26 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Hey Curt,
>
> I like that a lot. Looks awesome.
> Now what are you going to put it on?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 5:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I found some time in the shop today.
>
> I am playing around with new/different designs with my
> bone handles.
> this is a roped ball in the mid-section of the handle.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: flat stock clamping

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Yeah that is pretty slick Bill, thanks for sharing that.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 6:28 PM  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCgoUQilVQ=4s_channel=MICROJIG
>
>
>
> I think this system might be really good for flat stock work on the
> legacy, just mill up a base board mount it to the rails and set up your
> work.
>
> Also would work on the rotary table too. I think this is just what we need
> for our mills what do you all think?
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> Bill
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Re: Today's project

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

I like that a lot. Looks awesome.
Now what are you going to put it on?

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 5:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> I found some time in the shop today.
>
> I am playing around with new/different designs with my
> bone handles.
> this is a roped ball in the mid-section of the handle.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
>
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Re: Method for aligning mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Awesome. Good stuff.


On Sun, Jun 9, 2024, 7:35 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good morning.
>
> ONE more note of milling slots and mortices.
>
> I like to use 1/2" endmills for these type of jobs.  You will find the
> endmills (made for mills made for steel/metal removal. ) I have a few that
> are 6" and 8" long, vs the wood router bits which are normally 3"-4" long.
> When buying endmills look for 2-or 3 fluted endmills. (the gullet/flute,
> is made to take the chip away from the work piece as it cuts. More flutes
> the better for steel removal, but the larger 2-3 flutes work better to
> remove softer materials like Alum. or wood form what is being cut.)
> Endmills pricing is also somewhat cheaper then wood router bits. (and I
> think the quality is also better.)
> As a general note, when buying endmills, If asked, I tell them that I am
> milling Alum. (I don't tell them I'm milling wood.)
> Best of luck on your project, Please let us know how it turns out for you.
> ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 07:31:39 AM EDT, Markus Visnotius <
> mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Square stock.  Embarassingly, I hadn't considered putting it between
> centers.  Have a plywood "top" with soon to be cut dog holes that sits on
> the inner aluminum extrusions.  I figured I should be sure the dog holes
> are parallel and perpendicular to the carriage path and that got me looking
> at the carriage.  The carriage cross pieces and the main aluminum strut are
> not perpendicular.  I guess it's still possible that the "cuts" will be.
>
> The steel rod seems good for checking runout.  For testing if the xy is
> 90, why not use a bit to mill along the length of the mill and then mill
> perpendicular using the carriage?  Then check that with a square... Some
> wasted lumber...
>
> I was thinking the owner's manual would tell me what screws to adjust for
> squaring up the carriage, but maybe I should just disassemble the carriage
> and put it back together so I can understand what all those screws are
> doing.
>
> Thanks again,
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024, 12:43 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys!
>
> Mark what are you morticing? round or square stock? On a table or between
> centers?
>
> If you plan to do something between centers, I would suggest to lock the
> tailstock end of your wood
> by using a wood or alum. bracket to lock the end of  your spindle in place
> so it will not move. I have found that the headstock/locking index plates
> can slip while you are cutting larger sized spindles.
>
>
> Just my two cents worth of it.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 11:19:21 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> good stuff Mike thanks for sharing for Mark.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail=g>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 2:28 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> One really easy way to check for 90º is unplug the router and insert a
> 1/2" steel rod about 12 inches long, wood will work as well.  It doesn't
> need to be chucked into the collet too tight and therefore you have a
> little wiggle room.  Roll the rod on a tablesaw top or another very flat
> surface to make sure that it rolls true and then either adjust with a dead
> blow hammer or if it is as true as you can see, chuck it in.  Once it is
> chucked in,  Rotate it to make sure it is running true and not stirring the
> pot.  If it is making circles at the bottom away from the collet, loosen
> the collet and lean on it a little in the correction direction and snug up
> the collet.  Repeat until it is running true, flip the bar over if it won't
> true up.  If you can't get it to true up, no matter what you do, you may
> have a bent router shaft and now you know where the vibration is coming
> from.  When it does true up, you will have a straight representation of the
> cut and will be able to use a square on the x an y axis to check your
> router and carriage orientation.
>
> Mike OK
>
>
> On 6/8/2024 1:52 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> I picked up a 1000EX (I think) 5+ years ago and didn't get a 

Re: Method for aligning mill

[Tim Ziegler]

good stuff Mike thanks for sharing for Mark.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 2:28 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
wrote:

> One really easy way to check for 90º is unplug the router and insert a
> 1/2" steel rod about 12 inches long, wood will work as well.  It doesn't
> need to be chucked into the collet too tight and therefore you have a
> little wiggle room.  Roll the rod on a tablesaw top or another very flat
> surface to make sure that it rolls true and then either adjust with a dead
> blow hammer or if it is as true as you can see, chuck it in.  Once it is
> chucked in,  Rotate it to make sure it is running true and not stirring the
> pot.  If it is making circles at the bottom away from the collet, loosen
> the collet and lean on it a little in the correction direction and snug up
> the collet.  Repeat until it is running true, flip the bar over if it won't
> true up.  If you can't get it to true up, no matter what you do, you may
> have a bent router shaft and now you know where the vibration is coming
> from.  When it does true up, you will have a straight representation of the
> cut and will be able to use a square on the x an y axis to check your
> router and carriage orientation.
>
> Mike OK
>
>
> On 6/8/2024 1:52 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> I picked up a 1000EX (I think) 5+ years ago and didn't get a chance to do
> anything with it.
>
> I have a need to route some deep mortises and it seems like a good little
> project to try on the 1000EX.
>
> I started looking at how to hold down work and I think I'm good there, but
> now I'm more concerned about whether the x-y provided by the struts and the
> carriage is 90 degrees.
>
> Is there a procedure for adjusting the router carriage?   I started
> watching the old videos but most of them seem to be more about how to use
> the mill to cut spindles.
>
> Did anyone track down that manual that has been asked about here a few
> times?  Does anyone remember the file name?  I might actually have saved a
> digital copy of it a few  years ago, but finding it could be tricky.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Re: Method for aligning mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mark did any one get back to you on these questions you had?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 1:52 PM Mark  wrote:

> I picked up a 1000EX (I think) 5+ years ago and didn't get a chance to do
> anything with it.
>
> I have a need to route some deep mortises and it seems like a good little
> project to try on the 1000EX.
>
> I started looking at how to hold down work and I think I'm good there, but
> now I'm more concerned about whether the x-y provided by the struts and the
> carriage is 90 degrees.
>
> Is there a procedure for adjusting the router carriage?   I started
> watching the old videos but most of them seem to be more about how to use
> the mill to cut spindles.
>
> Did anyone track down that manual that has been asked about here a few
> times?  Does anyone remember the file name?  I might actually have saved a
> digital copy of it a few  years ago, but finding it could be tricky.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Re: Facebook market place sale./ Legacy Lost history ?

[Tim Ziegler]

What photo was this?
I'd be curious to see it?

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On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 5:52 AM Timothy Krause 
wrote:

> The slotted rail photo probably comes from a photo of what I did to my
> model 200.
> On 6/2/2024 8:40 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> His name is Chris.
>
> I just approved him as a new member.
>
> I HOPE we will have some interesting conversations In the very near future.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 11:37:02 PM EDT, 
>  wrote:
>
>
> Yes I did notice that I’m thinking perhaps a member upgraded their mill
> and posted it years back the milled slot in the cross slide
>
> That looks like our sawdust relief hole that was familiar to me its used
> for bolt access in this case I know I have seen that before
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> 
> 
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 1:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Facebook market place sale./ Legacy Lost history ?
>
>
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> If you look at the Alum. rail, you will see its 80/20.  The router
> carriage looks like a 1000ex
>
>
>
> I have wanted to do the same thing with a Steely unit. but to add linear
> rail to it.
>
> That's one NEAT Looking Machine! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 11:06:03 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> That mill looks familiar I’m sure I have seen it or that model somewhere
> before I don’t know where but I’m sure I have seen it
>
> I would be very interested in knowing its past.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 12:12 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Fw: Facebook market place sale./ Legacy Lost history ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Subject:* Facebook market place sale./ Legacy Lost history ?
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> I am not promoting this sale. but this Legacy is unique, I have never seen
> it before.
>
> Its a Legacy Steely unit, with Alum rails.  Let me re-state that,
>
> The frame is a steely unit. but the rails are Alum. with a 1000 carriage.
>
>
>
> I did message the owner.  (More to come latter.) ;-)
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/785059133724806/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ade20d330-c1c4-42a7-a67d-38b275d88d52
>
> Its being sold in  Liberty, IN
> .
>
> [image: Inline image][image: Inline image]
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt,
Yeah the videos on this are few and far between, so thank you so much for
your input, and links.
I have a video from the model that is all german and or something I can't
speak fluently. Of course now
I can't seem to find it. It worked on the exact same principle.
I will try to watch these this weekend.
Thanks again.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 12:03 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Tim.
>
> As far as I know Nova only made two OT videos.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mrP4KJIi0  #2
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A61S0pg8qY #1
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHOfuIBP8I=56s Ja Ho.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OljU1B_m_6w Erik Spatt made a nice video
> on the same topic.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCDmwz91phM  Making wood threads with a
> router. (Not OT but works like what you will be buying.)
>
> Im sure there are more out there, but Most OT videos are of the Rose
> Engine lathe, Very nice machine but it works differently then the NOVA dose.
>
> I wish you the best of luck, And I too, cant wait to see what you come up
> with. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 11:29:56 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am looking for videos or You tubes on this if anyone can help.
> I found 2 short ones that are less then 5 minutes long.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 8:24 PM  wrote:
>
> Congrates Tim I cant wait to see some really cool stuff coming from you
> and it I wish I was you lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2024 1:18 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment
>
>
>
> Good morning all,
>
>
>
> I am looking for Videos on the Nova Ornamental Jig lathe attachment.
>
> Any help would be good. So far I have found 2 three minute video's on it.
>
> I actually would like to find the video that comes with the jig too.
>
> Yes I purchased on I found on Market Place and is arriving today.
>
> Am I excited? No, I am ecstatic lol.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
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>
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Re: 1000x steely = old post from me

[Tim Ziegler]

Good morning All,

Are any of you interested in purchase of this 1000X Steely? Ron will be
getting pictures shortly,
but if you're interested please reach out to him.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 9:20 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Hey Bill,
>
> He is working on getting pix.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
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> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:56 PM  wrote:
>
>> Pics are always the best to offer things to sell I think
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:14 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 1000x steely = old post from me
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Ron,
>>
>>
>>
>> Was great talking to you about Jim's Steely. I will do what I can do to
>> help you sell this machine and its components.
>>
>> Anyone has questions on the steely's I can answer some of the questions
>> based on owning one myself. Otherwise several
>>
>> of the members have more knowledge than I do about them.
>>
>> Ron had suggested one could put aluminum rails on it to adapt to more of
>> the newer versions.
>>
>> One of the features on the Steely I like is the raised head and tail
>> stock. Functioning more like an actual lathe.
>>
>> Gives you so good access to what you're working. Does not stick up as
>> high as my WoodChuck but still a very
>>
>> good amount.
>>
>> Ron will be posting pics again too.
>>
>> Anyone interested lets help Ron sell this machine and accessories.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 5:54 PM 4 Jim Carpenter 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just spent some time talking with Tim about selling by the part any of
>> this stored unit.
>>
>> I have the unit stripped on a rolling table built with a chip collector,
>> no vacuum, plunge router, printed Manual, some duplicate parts and odds and
>> ends, gears, indexes,
>>
>> the 1 to 6 small disk and some extras, several old woodchuck gears,
>> cutters to sell and
>>
>> ship USPO 12 - $18.00 boxes.  Request are welcome with your honest value
>> with
>>
>> shipping. Believe all good condition so will start taking individual
>> pieces and a note
>>
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Re: wood lathe

[Tim Ziegler]

right?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 9:49 PM Eric Gantner 
wrote:

> [image: image]
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> On Jun 7, 2024, at 9:44 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
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> 
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> I’m stepping up to a slightly larger wood lathe lol
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> 
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> lol,na just kidding found these pics on line 112 inch dia turning the guys
> name is David Barkly
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Re: You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment

[Tim Ziegler]

I am looking for videos or You tubes on this if anyone can help.
I found 2 short ones that are less then 5 minutes long.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 8:24 PM  wrote:

> Congrates Tim I cant wait to see some really cool stuff coming from you
> and it I wish I was you lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2024 1:18 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment
>
>
>
> Good morning all,
>
>
>
> I am looking for Videos on the Nova Ornamental Jig lathe attachment.
>
> Any help would be good. So far I have found 2 three minute video's on it.
>
> I actually would like to find the video that comes with the jig too.
>
> Yes I purchased on I found on Market Place and is arriving today.
>
> Am I excited? No, I am ecstatic lol.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
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>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
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Re: You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment

[Tim Ziegler]

I know for sure. I wish for the same Bill.
I am making a 4.25 riser block right now to align it with my PM4224B
Its temporary but if it works it may be permanent. I made it out of 6
layers of
Baltic Birch laminated together. But it I get to much vibration I will make
one
out of steel.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 8:24 PM  wrote:

> Congrates Tim I cant wait to see some really cool stuff coming from you
> and it I wish I was you lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2024 1:18 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment
>
>
>
> Good morning all,
>
>
>
> I am looking for Videos on the Nova Ornamental Jig lathe attachment.
>
> Any help would be good. So far I have found 2 three minute video's on it.
>
> I actually would like to find the video that comes with the jig too.
>
> Yes I purchased on I found on Market Place and is arriving today.
>
> Am I excited? No, I am ecstatic lol.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
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You Tube for Nova Ornamental jig lathe attachment

[Tim Ziegler]

Good morning all,

I am looking for Videos on the Nova Ornamental Jig lathe attachment.
Any help would be good. So far I have found 2 three minute video's on it.
I actually would like to find the video that comes with the jig too.
Yes I purchased on I found on Market Place and is arriving today.
Am I excited? No, I am ecstatic lol.



Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

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Re: 1000x steely = old post from me

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill,

He is working on getting pix.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:56 PM  wrote:

> Pics are always the best to offer things to sell I think
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:14 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 1000x steely = old post from me
>
>
>
> Hey Ron,
>
>
>
> Was great talking to you about Jim's Steely. I will do what I can do to
> help you sell this machine and its components.
>
> Anyone has questions on the steely's I can answer some of the questions
> based on owning one myself. Otherwise several
>
> of the members have more knowledge than I do about them.
>
> Ron had suggested one could put aluminum rails on it to adapt to more of
> the newer versions.
>
> One of the features on the Steely I like is the raised head and tail
> stock. Functioning more like an actual lathe.
>
> Gives you so good access to what you're working. Does not stick up as high
> as my WoodChuck but still a very
>
> good amount.
>
> Ron will be posting pics again too.
>
> Anyone interested lets help Ron sell this machine and accessories.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 5:54 PM 4 Jim Carpenter 
> wrote:
>
> Just spent some time talking with Tim about selling by the part any of
> this stored unit.
>
> I have the unit stripped on a rolling table built with a chip collector,
> no vacuum, plunge router, printed Manual, some duplicate parts and odds and
> ends, gears, indexes,
>
> the 1 to 6 small disk and some extras, several old woodchuck gears,
> cutters to sell and
>
> ship USPO 12 - $18.00 boxes.  Request are welcome with your honest value
> with
>
> shipping. Believe all good condition so will start taking individual
> pieces and a note
>
> on point counts as some may be older versions of markings on the gears.
> Please for best response email rge...@att.net. May add on Facebook
> Marketplace ? Pictures will be of requested wants first within 3 days.
> Thanks for reading
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